cj | Amaranth: that happens when you poke at opengl sometimes :) | 00:11 |
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mvo | asac: have you seen http://paste.ubuntu.com/104758/ ? this happend to me on a intrepid->jaunty upgrade | 08:31 |
didrocks | morning o/ | 08:38 |
huats | morning everyone | 08:45 |
mvo | asac: together with http://paste.ubuntu.com/104760/ | 09:02 |
mvo | asac: I think this is a side effect of dropping the 81_sonames.patch ? | 09:05 |
mvo | asac: anyway, it seems to have made my upgrade unhappy :) | 09:06 |
seb128 | asac: bug #316941 | 09:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 316941 in rhythmbox "[jaunty] Rhythmbox missing shared library libnss3.so.1d" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316941 | 09:08 |
seb128 | asac: you should have changed the binary name or conflicted on everything using the library that needs to be upgraded | 09:09 |
huats | hello asac and seb128 | 09:10 |
seb128 | lut huats | 09:10 |
huats | how are you seb128 ? | 09:11 |
seb128 | huats: good thanks, how are you? | 09:11 |
huats | great too! | 09:11 |
huats | seb128: any idea where should I look to try to fix the issue I am facing with python-gtk2-dbg, that is blocking for the deskbar-applet ? | 09:17 |
huats | (a missing symbol in the -dbg) | 09:18 |
seb128 | huats: the pygtk rules? | 09:18 |
seb128 | huats: it's likely that the non-dbg version gets installed as dbg for some reason | 09:18 |
huats | seb128: I'll have a look in that way | 09:18 |
seb128 | you can try to ping lool pochu or slomo about it maybe, we synced pygtk on debian this cycle so the bug is likely there too | 09:19 |
huats | ok | 09:20 |
lool | huats: Check your build log to see whether an automatic autoreconf is triggered; if that's the case you want the fixes we have in Debian SVN | 09:21 |
lool | huats: Actually I see a typo now | 09:22 |
lool | PYTHON=/usr/bin/python$* $(MAKE) -C dbg-build-$* | 09:22 |
lool | Fortunately it escaped hardy-updates | 09:22 |
huats | lool: hello btw ;) | 09:24 |
huats | lool: I'm testing it, to see if it works with that | 09:26 |
lool | huats: Just committed the fix in Debian's SVN | 09:26 |
lool | Don't know whether that was your issue | 09:26 |
huats | ok | 09:26 |
huats | an missing symbol | 09:27 |
huats | I can get you the steps to reproduce | 09:27 |
huats | (easy..) | 09:27 |
seb128 | lool: python-dbg -c "import gtk" doesn't work | 09:31 |
seb128 | lool: the version installed as dbg seems to be the non dbg one | 09:31 |
huats | seb128: the dbg .so and the non dbg one, at least differs (using to check diff) | 09:33 |
lool | I'm a bit busy to say the least; would you mind trying the version in the Debian experimental *SVN* and see if that helps? | 09:33 |
lool | This python dbg stuff keeps breaking every 2 months and takes me 2 days to fix | 09:33 |
asac | seb128: the idea is that there is a link | 09:33 |
seb128 | asac: ok so it seems to not work correctly? could you look at this bug and maybe ask whatever you need to debug the issue? | 09:34 |
asac | seb128: have you upgraded to latest nss? | 09:36 |
seb128 | asac: no, jaunty moves to quickly for me ;-) | 09:36 |
seb128 | I'll try to upgrade now | 09:36 |
asac | do you have this link? | 09:36 |
asac | asac@hector:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/libnss3.so.1d | 09:36 |
asac | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-01-11 21:41 /usr/lib/libnss3.so.1d -> libnss3.so | 09:36 |
seb128 | asac: yes, that is working here | 09:38 |
asac | see ... all fine. damn | 09:39 |
asac | whats the problem for this guy | 09:39 |
seb128 | not sure, maybe ask the version he's running and if the symlink is there | 09:40 |
asac | i dont even know what to ask for ... now asked for upgrade temr.log | 09:40 |
seb128 | asac: where do you do the symlinking? | 09:40 |
asac | seb128: so ... the tricky thing here is that the link was flipped. | 09:40 |
huats | lool: sure | 09:40 |
asac | in previous version it was libnss3.so -> libnss3.so.1d ... and now we have libnss3.so.1d -> libnss3.so | 09:41 |
asac | so i move the files away in preinst | 09:41 |
huats | lool: to ease stuffs, I'm trying the newer in jaunty with that fix you just mentionned | 09:41 |
asac | so that the unpack doesnt do the wrong thing | 09:41 |
asac | i tested various upgrades and downgrades here, but nothing | 09:41 |
huats | but after that I'll have a look at the debian experimental for sure... | 09:41 |
seb128 | asac: that doesn't rely on a -dev to be installed right? | 09:42 |
asac | seb128: no. its really ugly i know. but thats where it comes from: | 09:42 |
asac | we took package with soname version patch from debian: | 09:42 |
asac | normal package has libnss3.so.1d | 09:42 |
asac | and -dev has link libnss3.so -> libnss3.so.1d | 09:43 |
lool | huats: The changes include autoreconf patches and changing PYTHON in a bunch of places | 09:43 |
asac | then complains came that upstream binaries dont work here | 09:43 |
huats | lool: ok | 09:43 |
asac | debian and ubuntu moved the link to the "normal" package | 09:43 |
huats | lool: so I will take right now the debian one | 09:43 |
asac | then upstream complained the binaries built in ubuntu are not compatible with upstream nss | 09:44 |
asac | i discussed this for a while and we found that the soname version was indeed senseless | 09:44 |
asac | so we ended up in this link flip | 09:45 |
asac | respin of all rdepends would fix this for sure | 09:45 |
asac | (and we could drop the link) | 09:45 |
asac | heh | 09:45 |
seb128 | asac: I see | 09:45 |
asac | yeah but well. | 09:46 |
asac | lets see what he answers | 09:46 |
mvo | asac: just reproduce the failure here, stock intrepid->jaunty | 09:48 |
asac | mvo: ok so when you upgrade from intrepid? | 09:49 |
mvo | asac: yes | 09:49 |
mvo | asac: it looks like dpkg is screweing up for some reason during the upgrade - the symlinks from the new package are not there | 09:50 |
asac | mvo: yes i even looked at ldconfig output | 09:50 |
mvo | asac: but when I manually install the same version again (dpkg -i /var/cache/apt ..) it works | 09:50 |
asac | which is a bit scary in fact as ldconfig seems to remove links (so it could be) | 09:50 |
asac | mvo: my current bet is that ldconfig is messing stuff up | 09:50 |
mvo | asac: yeah, I suspect that its really ldconfig doing this | 09:50 |
asac | however, i looked at the code and when it spits out the "is not a symbolic link" | 09:51 |
asac | it sets no_remove=1 | 09:51 |
mvo | asac: I file a bug and target it for alpha-3? | 09:51 |
asac | so the bug is 316452 | 09:51 |
mvo | asac: aha, thanks | 09:51 |
asac | mvo: not sure if its the best to target for alpha-3 | 09:51 |
asac | i mean, I still dont understand where the issue happens | 09:52 |
asac | (if its not the ldconfig thing) | 09:52 |
mvo | asac: I can reprodcue it here reliably, I will poke it a bit | 09:52 |
asac | mvo: how do you reproduce it post upgrade? | 09:53 |
mvo | asac: I can not, I let the upgrade tester run, wait for the bug to appear and log into the system | 09:54 |
asac | mvo: cool | 09:54 |
asac | let me get the ldconfig code ... which definitly does link shuffline | 09:55 |
mvo | bug #316452 | 09:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 316452 in nss "[jaunty] last update broke some libraries (libnss3-1d, libnspr4-0d)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316452 | 09:57 |
asac | ok see you milestoned it ;) | 09:57 |
asac | mvo: also nominating ;) woujld make this official? | 09:58 |
mvo | asac: high or criticial (high should be enough, right?) | 09:58 |
asac | high is gok | 09:58 |
asac | ok | 09:58 |
asac | mvo: so: /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.5/xulrunner-bin: ... output | 09:58 |
asac | is already a consequence of the missing link | 09:59 |
asac | thtas in xulrunner postinst | 09:59 |
asac | it runs xulrunner-1.9 --version | 09:59 |
asac | (probably a bad idea) | 09:59 |
mvo | well, this way at least we know that its broken :) | 10:00 |
asac | what i do in preinst of nss/nspr is to move the link and the old binary to a backup name | 10:00 |
asac | and in cased upgrade fails move it back | 10:00 |
asac | if it works remove the backup files in postinst | 10:00 |
asac | could be that there is a bug too | 10:00 |
asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/104781/ ... thats ldconfig code | 10:04 |
asac | the error is printed in line 465 | 10:05 |
asac | err 468 | 10:05 |
asac | and a "unlink" in 485 | 10:06 |
asac | but if the error happens do_remove = 0 ... so it shouldnt do the unlink | 10:06 |
mvo | asac: I haven't looked at the code yet (ldconfig) but is it maybe doing something silly when e.g. trying to cleanup all existing symlinks that are releated to the lib? | 10:08 |
asac | not sure ... i thought so, but i cannot se it ... at least not directly related to the error mesage | 10:09 |
asac | but probably that message is a red herring | 10:09 |
asac | mvo: how could it happen on upgrade from intrepid, but not from jaunty? | 10:16 |
asac | well ... assuming that it doesnt happen when you come from jaunty | 10:16 |
asac | as seb didnt see it; i didnt see it and fta didnt see it either | 10:16 |
asac | probably not much a technical difference, right? | 10:17 |
seb128 | asac: you could ask this user if he upgraded jaunty or intrepid | 10:17 |
asac | hmm | 10:17 |
asac | Hello! I'm running an (almost) up-to-date Jaunty here. | 10:17 |
mvo | asac: just more churn | 10:17 |
asac | Earlier today I did an "aptitude safe-upgrade" | 10:17 |
asac | thats what the initial reporter says | 10:18 |
huats | lool: the current debian-svn is not fixing it | 10:18 |
huats | I mean the one in experimental | 10:18 |
huats | lool: I file a but on LP ? | 10:19 |
huats | s/but/bug/ | 10:19 |
seb128 | huats: do you want me to look at the issue? | 10:19 |
asac | fta: can you fix pastebinit in universe ;)? | 10:20 |
huats | seb128: sure | 10:20 |
asac | fta: your package works fine now that i installed it. any reason that didnt go to universe? | 10:20 |
mvo | asac: I just checked the preinst/postinst, that looks all right | 10:21 |
asac | mvo: can you try to upgrade without the xulrunner-1.9 package installed? (so we can pin down that message as either the cause or the result) | 10:21 |
asac | i guess its result | 10:21 |
asac | but who knows if its the result-cause ;) | 10:21 |
asac | due to some rollback | 10:21 |
huats | seb128: just tell me if I can do anything... | 10:22 |
seb128 | huats: ok, I'll tell you if required | 10:23 |
seb128 | huats: you could try to debug it but apparently you already tried that ;-) | 10:23 |
huats | seb128: :) | 10:24 |
lool | huats: Is there an autoreconf running during the build? (grep for recheck) does pygobject have the issue? | 10:25 |
huats | lool: let me check | 10:26 |
lool | huats: pygobject has the same bug actually *sigh* | 10:26 |
lool | Committed | 10:26 |
huats | seb128: and lool : at the end of the build, the is that : | 10:27 |
huats | dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: symbol Py_InitModule4 used by debian/python-gtk2-dbg/usr/lib/python-support/python-gtk2-dbg/python2.5/gtk-2.0/pangocairo_d.so found in none of the libraries. | 10:27 |
huats | (and many others, but it is the missing symbol) | 10:27 |
lool | That's ok in itself | 10:27 |
seb128 | huats: the symbol is the non debug one | 10:27 |
asac | mvo: another idea would be to make ldconfig a no-opt script before upgrading ... but i guess its the new ldconfig which we would have to make a noopt | 10:28 |
lool | I only get the issue in pygtk; not pygobject | 10:28 |
seb128 | it should be Py_InitModule4TraceRefs rather | 10:28 |
lool | Now that doesn't mean pygobject is actually correctly built | 10:28 |
seb128 | lool: | 10:28 |
seb128 | $ python-dbg -c "import gobject" | 10:28 |
seb128 | [12115 refs] | 10:28 |
seb128 | I would say it is | 10:28 |
lool | seb128: Consider that _glib.so or unix.so or _gio.so can do some different ABI calls | 10:29 |
lool | seb128: Ok, I checked all of them it's fine | 10:31 |
lool | And it's not for pygtk-dbg | 10:31 |
huats | lool: I don't find the autoreconf, but I might be wrong | 10:35 |
lool | Ok, then no idea | 10:39 |
mvo | asac: hm, right now (upgrade sitll running) I have libplc4.so.0d -> libplc4.so.0d.new-migration | 10:39 |
asac | hmm | 10:40 |
asac | thats not intended | 10:40 |
mvo | and there is code in ldconfig | 10:40 |
mvo | that remove stale symlinks | 10:40 |
mvo | (everything with ".so." in them and and target for the link | 10:41 |
mvo | asac: lets wait until ldconfig gets trigger here during the upgrade to confirm my theory | 10:41 |
asac | i do mv /usr/lib/$f.0d /usr/lib/$f.0d.new-migration in preinst | 10:42 |
asac | (nspr) | 10:42 |
mvo | asac: most mysterious, a upgrade in a pbuilder chroot with just xulrunner-1.9 results in the correct behaviour | 10:42 |
asac | too bad. the only intrepid setup i have here already has the new package :/ | 10:44 |
asac | ok. so lets think ;) | 10:44 |
asac | when we start libplc4.so is a symlink to libplc4.so.0d .... now in preinst i mv libplc4.so libplc4.so.new-migration and libplc4.so.0d to libplc4.so.0d.new-migration | 10:45 |
asac | i dont really see how we can end up with libplc4.so.0d -> libplc4.so.0d.new-migration | 10:45 |
asac | so probably that link is already produced by ldconfig? | 10:46 |
mvo | asac: I guess that makese sense | 10:51 |
asac | mvo: so i probably have to move that link to mktemp -d? | 10:51 |
asac | i mean instead of keeping it in a place where ldconfig finds the .new-migration file? | 10:52 |
asac | mvo: or maybe chmod 000 ;) | 10:53 |
mvo | asac: maybe mktemp, I can try that here | 10:56 |
asac | mvo: oh i look at ldconfig | 10:56 |
mvo | asac: or you give me a debdiff and I build the package | 10:56 |
asac | if (((strncmp (direntry->d_name, "lib", 3) != 0 | 10:56 |
asac | && strncmp (direntry->d_name, "ld-", 3) != 0) | 10:56 |
asac | || strstr (direntry->d_name, ".so") == NULL) | 10:56 |
asac | so maybe we can just prefix it | 10:56 |
asac | e.g. Xlibns | 10:57 |
asac | let us try that | 10:57 |
mvo | asac: ok | 10:58 |
mvo | asac: the auto upgrade tester can test based on a local repo (or a PPA), if you push it to your jaunty PPA I can test the change | 10:59 |
asac | mvo: ok uploaded to ~asac/+archive | 11:11 |
asac | http://pastebin.com/f6f29dc1a | 11:12 |
asac | http://pastebin.com/f6dc57bfe | 11:12 |
asac | mvo: ^^ | 11:12 |
asac | thats what i did ;) | 11:12 |
asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive | 11:15 |
asac | all builds waiting for cycles :/ | 11:15 |
asac | mvo: which arch are you testing (so i can give you heads up when stuff is there) | 11:16 |
asac | i386? | 11:16 |
seb128 | huats, lool: ok, I found the pygtk dbg issue | 11:18 |
huats | seb128: great ! | 11:18 |
mvo | asac: the auto upgrade tester can test based on a local repo (or a PPA), if you push it to your jaunty PPA I can test the change (not sure if you got that before I disconnected) | 11:18 |
seb128 | huats, lool: the patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556130 was in the intrepid version and has been dropped apparently | 11:19 |
asac | mvo: i got that ;) but i talked to you afterwards ;) | 11:19 |
ubottu | Gnome bug 556130 in general "bogus override of python includes in configure.ac" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:19 |
mvo | asac: I did not get the stuff afterwards | 11:19 |
asac | mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104801/ | 11:19 |
mvo | asac: thanks. I test on i386 | 11:20 |
asac | mvo: i will let you know ;) | 11:20 |
mvo | asac: I can build local package too if it take too long | 11:20 |
mvo | but I need to deal with fglrx/nvidia upgrades too | 11:21 |
asac | mvo: i think that would be better | 11:21 |
mvo | ok | 11:21 |
huats | seb128: pfff | 11:21 |
asac | ppa takes about 30 minutes to make .debs available | 11:21 |
asac | after the build has finished | 11:21 |
huats | I misread the patch... I have looked at it, and thought it was a + (not a -).... | 11:21 |
huats | and I figure out it was included upstream | 11:22 |
huats | I could have save you time :( | 11:22 |
asac | mvo: can you take the patches from the pastebin or shall i poast them in pure form? | 11:22 |
mvo | asac: I can take the .dsc from the ppa, no? | 11:23 |
asac | mvo: if they are available yet, then yes | 11:23 |
asac | mvo: otherwise its: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/nspr1.diff | 11:23 |
asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/tmp/nss1.diff | 11:23 |
mvo | asac: it seems to be publish already? | 11:24 |
mvo | including the debs :) | 11:24 |
mvo | eh, no. build, but not published yet | 11:25 |
asac | mvo: after build has finished it takes 20-40 minutes to get published | 11:26 |
asac | which is sad ;) | 11:27 |
asac | before it took 20-40 minutes to start build, but close to zero publishing time | 11:27 |
asac | now its zero time till build starts and 20-40 minutes afterwards ;) | 11:27 |
asac | mvo: but well. maybe do something else | 11:27 |
asac | you hav eprobably other stuff to do | 11:27 |
asac | i currently feel positive that we have nailed this! | 11:27 |
mvo | asac: thanks, I do the xorg stuff in the meantime | 11:28 |
mvo | asac: the upgrade test with your ppa is now running, it will take ~30min to compelte, I think I go for lunch now | 11:45 |
asac | ok ... | 11:46 |
* asac crosses fingers | 11:46 | |
asac | mvo: enjoy. tausend dank! | 11:46 |
mvo | asac: thanks :) | 11:46 |
* asac really hopes that this is the last time he has to do something nasty like a lib-link-flip in /usr/lib/ ;) | 11:50 | |
mvo | asac: so far it looks *much* happerier (also not finished yet :) | 12:03 |
mvo | asac: what does plds actually stands for? | 12:04 |
asac | heh ... really good question | 12:11 |
mvo | 93% done and still going strong *go jaunty go* | 12:12 |
asac | hehe | 12:13 |
asac | mvo: nspr netscape portable runtime ... so PL could stand for "portable library" ;) | 12:15 |
asac | mvo: and the ds lib comes from the lib/ds/ tree ... might be something like "data structures" ;) | 12:15 |
asac | so in a README i found: character prefix, "PL_" (Portable Library). Internal function names | 12:15 |
asac | so first theory is true ;) | 12:16 |
asac | so we have nsprpub/lib/ds and nsprpub/lib/libc ... matching plds and plc ;) | 12:17 |
mvo | asac: worked fine, please upload | 12:23 |
asac | thanks! | 12:25 |
asac | mvo: ok uploaded. i replaced the prefix with something more sensible ... lets hope that my sed-fu is good enough ;) | 12:32 |
huats | seb128: ok you fixed the bug :) | 13:24 |
huats | thanks :) | 13:25 |
seb128 | huats: you're welcome ;-) | 13:25 |
huats | seb128: so I return working on the deskbar update | 13:26 |
seb128 | good ;-) | 13:26 |
huats | sorry deskbar-applet | 13:26 |
hggdh | seb128, srag stated he forgot to update e-e Makefile.in to require 2.24.3 | 15:00 |
seb128 | hggdh: right, that was expected, the question is rather the other way around | 15:01 |
seb128 | hggdh: why e-e 2.24.2 crashes evo 2.24.3 | 15:02 |
hggdh | seb128, heh. I am still sleeping, sorry | 15:02 |
seb128 | hggdh: no problem, I did update e-e to 2.24.3 today but it needs to get accepted now | 15:02 |
seb128 | still they broke binary compatibility in some way or e-e 2.24.2 should still be working | 15:03 |
* hggdh agrres... I asked about that yesterday, but did not get a full answer | 15:03 | |
huats | seb128: I have put the deskbar-applet update on LP | 15:03 |
seb128 | huats: thanks | 15:03 |
huats | I will look again at the xchat-gnome now | 15:03 |
seb128 | huats: that one should be easier ;-) | 15:04 |
huats | (but the last time I checked there was something weird...) | 15:04 |
huats | not sure :) | 15:04 |
huats | seb128: I will start to think that didrocks asked you to give me some updates with issues ;) | 15:05 |
seb128 | ah ah | 15:05 |
hggdh | seb128, correct dependency is on e-d-s 2.24.3 | 15:15 |
hggdh | so ABI did change | 15:15 |
seb128 | in a stable version update... | 15:15 |
didrocks | (seb128: don't tell him, please) :) | 15:29 |
seb128 | didrocks: ok I won't ;-) | 15:30 |
didrocks | hehe | 15:30 |
* didrocks is eager to have an update with an ABI break to have a look at librairies issues :p | 15:32 | |
seb128 | didrocks: want some challenges? I've some tricky updates on my list ;-) | 15:49 |
seb128 | one of those being called GTK 2.15 ;-) | 15:49 |
* seb128 kicks directfb | 15:50 | |
didrocks | seb128: hum, GTK 2.15, seems fun :) | 15:58 |
didrocks | seb128: I won't be able to do them tonight (my company "celebration"), but tomorrow, why not having a deep look | 15:59 |
didrocks | after having played with gnome-games :) | 15:59 |
seb128 | didrocks: do gnome-games it's already non trivial, they started using clutter apparently | 15:59 |
dobey | i thought the clutter dep was optional though? | 16:00 |
dobey | seb128: there's a game that uses seed now as well | 16:00 |
seb128 | could be, I didn't try | 16:00 |
crevette | didrocks, do you mean you work on ubuntu at work !!!! | 16:06 |
* crevette calls didrocks' boss | 16:06 | |
seb128 | lol | 16:07 |
seb128 | crevette: no, that's huats ;-) | 16:07 |
didrocks | seb128: thanks I will enjoy gnome-games so \o/ | 16:07 |
didrocks | crevette: and no. I am really working now. You have to call huats' one :) | 16:08 |
huats | :) | 16:13 |
anakron | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/315156 | 16:14 |
anakron | hi all | 16:14 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 315156 in nautilus "Installs unnecessary desktop file" [Low,Triaged] | 16:14 |
anakron | someone can say me if is rith to take it out or not | 16:14 |
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crevette | mvo, hello | 17:02 |
crevette | mvo, I updated my metacity branch to update changelog with the one dholbach uploaded, perhaps you're interested to pick it up ? | 17:03 |
mvo | crevette: yes, thanks | 17:04 |
mvo | crevette: he was quicker than me with the sponsoring | 17:05 |
crevette | :) | 17:05 |
mvo | crevette: what is the branch name again? | 17:05 |
crevette | ah sorry | 17:05 |
crevette | lp:~bmillemathias/metacity/ubuntu | 17:06 |
mvo | crevette: thanks, merged | 17:07 |
crevette | mvo, thanks | 17:07 |
crevette | mvo, I have a dumb question, is it possible to have apt-get pick up latest revision when we get apt-get source metacity for instance and update debian/ | 17:08 |
crevette | I don't know if it have so sense or not | 17:08 |
crevette | s/it have so sense/it has some sense/ | 17:09 |
cj | maybe svn-buildpackage will help? | 17:10 |
mvo | crevette: that was discussed in the past, if there is a vcs-bzr header, just use lp to get it | 17:10 |
mvo | I think its a good idea | 17:10 |
mvo | it just needs to get implemented :) (should not be too hard though) | 17:10 |
crevette | mvo, so actually the line "Vcs-Bzr: http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/metacity/ubuntu" in control.in is not used at the time bieng | 17:11 |
crevette | except to print a message | 17:11 |
mvo | crevette: yes, just as a guide for the package maintainers, not to get the latest source | 17:16 |
jcastro | anyone finding the new volume control stuff frustrating? | 17:26 |
* cj <3 lvm | 17:29 | |
cj | oh, you mean audio volume, don't you? | 17:29 |
pochu | crevette: I think you can use `debcheckout $package` to get the source from the Vcs-* header | 17:30 |
cj | debcheckout is in devscripts | 17:34 |
crevette | pochu, I need to run that in the package source ? | 17:35 |
crevette | seems rather simple :) | 17:36 |
pochu | crevette: not necessarily, you can run it anywhere :) | 17:36 |
crevette | yeah but I think this is more convenient | 17:37 |
crevette | :) | 17:37 |
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tretle | macslow? | 22:10 |
MacSlow | tretle, what's up? | 22:26 |
tretle | hey | 22:26 |
tretle | long time no blog :D lol | 22:26 |
tretle | Yeah, I was wondering whether you could tell me whether any work has been done on the gdm side to implement clutter ui support? | 22:27 |
MacSlow | tretle, some ... but not fully done | 22:27 |
MacSlow | first thing is to put gdm 2.24.x in | 22:28 |
tretle | is that not in jaunty yet? | 22:29 |
tretle | also was your work on sparkle done in pigment, I was thinking of reusing some of the widgets to create a globe for the ubuntu live cd installer time zone selection. | 22:31 |
MacSlow | tretle, gdm 2.24.x is planned for jaunty afaik | 22:31 |
MacSlow | tretle, no ... sparkle is all plain OpenGL | 22:31 |
tretle | ah nice | 22:32 |
tretle | :D | 22:32 |
tretle | so after gdm gets pushed into jaunty what pieces to the puzzel will be missing to integrate a clutter based ui? | 22:33 |
tretle | hmmm.... seems 2.20.8 is currently being used in jaunty | 22:36 |
cj | MacSlow: are you that slow guy from linpeople? | 22:37 |
tretle | ? | 22:41 |
MacSlow | cj, no idea | 22:42 |
MacSlow | tretle, a new greeter | 22:42 |
tretle | so the new greater hasnt been started yet? is there any blueprints up or project page that I could keep up to date with? | 22:44 |
MacSlow | there's one on wiki.ubuntu.com | 22:44 |
MacSlow | tretle, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/GdmFaceBrowser | 22:45 |
tretle | how much work will need to be done on creating a new greater? | 22:47 |
MacSlow | tretle, lots | 22:48 |
tretle | would it be the gdm guys working on it or you? | 22:50 |
cj | MacSlow: if you haven't been on 'freenode' since before '96 then it's probably not you :) | 22:53 |
MacSlow | cj, hm I've been called MacSlow for as long as I can remember | 22:57 |
MacSlow | '96 could be | 22:57 |
cj | MacSlow: your name sounds familiar :) | 22:58 |
cj | http://web.archive.org/web/19961109144913/http://www.linpeople.org/ | 22:59 |
cody-somerville | Hardy's gnome-icon-themes no longer builds from source in Hardy | 23:33 |
cody-somerville | icon-naming-utils (>= 0.8.7) but it is not installable | 23:33 |
cody-somerville | Hardy only has 0.8.6 | 23:34 |
cody-somerville | How it ever got compiled is a mystery to me | 23:34 |
cody-somerville | checking for intltool >= 0.40.0... 0.37.1 found | 23:40 |
cody-somerville | wtf | 23:40 |
cody-somerville | I'm a moron :P | 23:46 |
cody-somerville | nvm :) | 23:46 |
* cody-somerville was trying to compile the intrepid version under hardy. | 23:46 | |
cj | haha | 23:59 |
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