[03:13] <Vantrax> anyone heard about the Australian NSW government k12 tender?
[03:14] <Vantrax> spec basically means every kid in the NSW system will have a linux netbook.
[03:22] <sladen> [[citation needed]]
[03:24] <Vantrax> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/hardware/soa/NSW-issues-200m-PC-wireless-tender/0,130061702,339293637,00.htm https://tenders.nsw.gov.au/commerce/?event=public.rft.showClosed&RFTUUID=F6004F9F-90B3-D71E-C95E6CE7623629C3
[03:26] <Vantrax> max cost $500AUD, considering the dell mini 9 is $550 at education pricing it basically means no way to bundle MS into the price. Have to go linux
[03:28] <sladen> unless ...Microsoft *pay* AU$50 times $number_ordered for each copy of MS Office
[03:28] <Vantrax> well MS windows and MS office both would have to be free effectively...
[03:29] <Vantrax> the NSW government has been piloting Linux based school labs here and there for a while
[03:30] <sladen> yes/no, it's worth enough to Microsoft that they would not only make any necessary "free" but they would actually pay the contracter/government to install Microsoft stuff so that the contract didn't go elsewhere
[03:31] <sladen> what sadly happens all too frequently is that a government department says "we're going Linux" and Bill Gates gets in his jet and has a "meeting" the next day
[03:31] <sladen> with somebody high-up (like a prime-minister)
[03:33] <Vantrax> yeah, maybe it will be different with a new prime ministeer
[03:42] <Vantrax> where you from sladen
[03:43] <sladen> I'm in the United Kindom at the momnet
[03:44] <sladen> Kingdom; moment
[15:43] <Rinchen> boredandblogging, did you see the follow-up responses about the fridge gcal?
[15:49] <cody-somerville> The ubuntu.com domain sounds interesting
[16:06] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: yes
[16:12] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: the free tools argument has been fair, but the drupal calendars have been a royal pain
[16:13] <james_w> I think you should document what the current issues are, so that you can show people the reasons for moving to something non-free
[16:13] <james_w> and when problems are hit with using google calendar there aren't questions about what moving to google improved
[16:13] <boredandblogging> right
[16:22] <Rinchen> yeah, I would love to use the event repeat module but it has so many problems it would be a disservice to the community
[16:23] <james_w> Rinchen: could you expand on the problems?
[16:23] <boredandblogging> i was wondering if its useful for LoCos to add their irc meetings to the calendar, maybe a separate calendar?
[16:24] <Rinchen> james_w, in simplest terms: a) it has security holes that Kees could drive a bus through, b) it's not available for Drup 6 because it's being rewritten to address those fundamental architectural holes
[16:25] <james_w> Rinchen: ah, I didn't realise Kees had reviewed it
[16:25] <james_w> it was unnamed "security problems" before
[16:26] <Rinchen> james_w, I don't think it did. It was a metaphor you'd get though :-)
[16:26] <james_w> ah
[16:26] <Rinchen> s/it/he
[16:26] <james_w> well, one of the maintainers is on the drupal security team, so it probably doesn't have gaping holes
[16:26] <Rinchen> newz knows the story best but I've gotten the same story from him and elmo
[16:26] <james_w> and currently, only trusted people are able to create events aren't they?
[16:28] <Rinchen> if it were installed, yes that is correct
[16:28] <Rinchen> I wasn't able to get IS to install it though :-(
[16:29] <james_w> it seems a bit silly to me to migrate away from free tools when there are free tools we could either use or fix
[16:30] <james_w> and I was mistaken about the maintainer of the module being on the security team, sorry
[16:34] <cody-somerville> james_w, I dunno if you noticed but Mark asked if maybe it would be a good idea to get google domain applications thingie for ubuntu.com
[16:36] <Rinchen> re: silly.  My Drupal experts tell me that event repeat should rock for 6 when it's out but it won't be for a some time yet.  It's been difficult to get attention to the Fridge unless it's security related so the going has been slow. :-(
[16:36] <james_w> yeah, I can understand that
[16:36] <james_w> I'm told that the whole calendar system has been overhauled in 6 and is much better
[16:36] <james_w> cody-somerville: I did
[16:44] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: newz had some ideas for doing the calendar stuff after he got from his conferene
[16:44] <Rinchen> yeah, I'm waiting to hear back from newz on those
[16:44] <Rinchen> I haven't poked him about it though
[16:44] <boredandblogging> but I think it would still be the same issue...it would take too long to roll them out
[19:15] <Tumie> Can we change the world? Yes we can! Can we fix it? Yes we can! BOB THE BUILDER :D :D :D
[19:27] <cody-somerville> yes yes