[02:33] <atcurtis> Does the lp repository browser/cset view not work?
[02:36] <mwhudson> oh
[02:36] <mwhudson> it usually works
[02:36] <mwhudson> atcurtis: which page is giving you grief?
[02:37] <atcurtis> I can't view any of my revisions or source tree at https://code.launchpad.net/~starbuggers/sakila-server/mysql-5.1-wl820
[02:37] <mwhudson> oh mysql :(
[02:38] <mwhudson> spm: want to do the honours?
[02:38] <atcurtis> known issue?
[02:38] <spm> mwhudson: I'd be delighted
[02:38] <spm> mwhudson: 2.5
[02:39] <spm> atcurtis: give it another 30ish seconds and try again?
[02:39] <mwhudson> atcurtis: mysql branches are at the large end of what it can cope with comfortably, let's say
[02:39] <atcurtis> spm: sure... I'll can give it a bit longer because I am going to get a drink.
[02:40] <atcurtis> mwhudson: understood... it is a lot of stuff in one repo.
[02:40] <mwhudson> if we restart it every so often it works for a while
[02:40] <spm> there. looks to be fine now.
[02:40] <mwhudson> actually on my plate today/tomorrow is making it more resilient, if not actually more efficient
[02:41] <spm> mwhudson: promises promises....
[02:41] <spm> mwhudson: you keep teasing us with these promises. :-P
[02:41] <mwhudson> yes well, the other stuff i'm doing first inevitably takes longer than i'd hope :)
[02:45] <atcurtis> thanks!
[05:13] <CarlFK1> I wrote this, but now I cant edit it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[05:13] <CarlFK1> I see "show/hide editing options" but I see no option to edit
[05:15] <CarlFK1> found em
[05:15] <CarlFK1> um.. I am 90% sure they weren't there at first
[05:17] <dlynch> Am I the only one who cannot access https://launchpad.net ?
[05:18] <CarlFK1> I think there is someone else near the south pole that is having troubles
[05:19] <CarlFK1> worked for me though
[05:19] <dlynch> I'm in Manila
[05:26] <spm> dlynch: can you access https://launchpad.net/@@/launchpad-logo-and-name.png
[05:30] <dlynch> spm: not so far.......
[05:30] <spm> dlynch: ok. what does traceroute/mtr give?
[05:32] <stub> dlynch: I can get there from Bangkok, but it is often slow. We are still going the wrong way around the planet (since the last cable cut - I don't think it is fixed yet).
[05:34] <stub> dlynch: We should be going via Europe to the UK, but instead going via jp and us.
[05:36] <dlynch> spm, stub: traceroute is giving me Hong Kong, Japan, West Coast, East Coast, then London, then no replies after gw0-0-gr.canonical.com
[05:36] <spm> dlynch: what ipaddress are you coming from - the same as your irc?
[05:36] <spm> can pm if you'd prefer
[05:37] <stub> dlynch: That is the same as I'm seeing from Bangkok
[05:37] <stub> dlynch: Lack of traceroute for that final few hops doesn't affect Launchpad
[05:39] <stub> I used to go via Amsterdam with a much better ping ;-(
[05:41] <spm> stub: just a better ping?
[05:41] <stub> probably equates to packet loss too and other things.
[05:42] <stub> Local Thai net is pretty conjested too - 300ms before I leave the country
[05:42] <rockstar> Yikes.
[05:42] <spm> heh. Tho you do get funkies. had one a month or so ago - from westcoast US traversed half of europe.
[05:43] <stub> I do keep getting SSL dropouts to the UK
[05:44] <spm> stub: when you mtr - do you see vanadium?
[05:45] <stub> gw0, jujube. No vanadium.
[05:46] <spm> hrmm - wonder if that actually means anything....
[05:46] <stub> 4-5% packet loss in Japan, 2% in san jose, 4-5% in London
[05:47] <spm> weird - I lose 0.4% in SanJose, but that's it
[05:49] <dlynch> gw0 is 21 hops for me (plus the hops out of the local network)
[05:50] <stub> I can improve packetloss by turning off bittorrent
[05:51] <rockstar> stub, why would anyone ever do that?
[05:52] <stub> Brings the pings down too ;)
[05:52] <spm> sorry - our dogs were going nutso at a bluetonge lizard in the yard :-)
[05:52] <spm> dlynch: so as we were chatting - sniffing tools. a simple test is ensure most network using tools are not running, and then capture the mtr traffic
[05:53] <spm> so somthing trivial like 'sudo tcpdump -n' will dump pages of text to the console fairly quickly
[05:53] <dlynch> so I shut down firefox etc, except IRC
[05:53] <spm> no need to shut it down - just dont do any browsing at the same time
[05:53] <dlynch> or do I keep firefox open with a page trying to access LP?
[05:54] <spm> that works too. stop accessing LP. start the tcpdump. try and access LP. in that sequence
[05:55] <dlynch> spm: ok, I'll do it in about 5 mins, when I finish upgrading ubuntu 9.04
[05:55] <spm> dlynch: np.
[06:19] <dlynch> ok, finally got the tcpdump: http://pastebin.com/d6b085393
[06:20] <dlynch> spm: sorry that took so long ;)
[11:08] <stochastic> I've run into some issue uploading a package I'm working on to my PPA, I get this rejected message: phat_0.4.1-0ubuntu1.dsc: Section '-' is not valid
[11:14] <stochastic> nevermind, #ubuntu-motu is answering my questions
[12:54] <nil1> hi, I've pulled wrong stuff how can I reverse?
[12:55] <andrea-bs> nil1: please, can you explain your situation better?
[12:56] <nil1> oh everything is fine!!!! pull vs push English confusion, apology!!!
[12:57] <andrea-bs> no problem :)
[12:58] <nil1> but that's a good opportunity to get to know what I should if I push something wrong...
[13:00] <andrea-bs> nil1: run `bzr uncommit` to your local branch and then push with the --overwrite option
[13:01] <nil1> andrea-bs: what is the difference between uncommit and reverse?
[13:02] <andrea-bs> nil1: uncommit removes the last commit from the branch, so it won't appear in the log; reverse remove the latest changes, but keeps the commit in the branch
[13:03] <nil1> got it, thx!
[14:43] <vadi2> Hi. I remember a while ago there was a Drupal module for authenticating Launchpad users. Does anyone know if a similar plugin has been made for Wordpress?
[14:44] <mrevell> vadi2: It's something we're working on. Let me see if I can get some more info.
[14:44] <vadi2> ok, thank you
[16:23]  * NCommander is curious to see how much he broke by changing his launchpad uid
[16:32] <jpds> NCommander: Chances are, you busted your @ubuntu email. :p
[16:32] <NCommander> jpds, probably
[16:33] <NCommander> Not that I used it ever
[16:33] <NCommander> jpds, who do I bug to get that fixed :-)
[16:34] <jpds> NCommander: Read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[16:35] <NCommander> Works for me
[16:35] <NCommander> Now I can actually use them
[16:35] <NCommander> (my old LP ID predates my Ubuntu involvement, and I hated my nick)
[16:36]  * NCommander hugs jpds 
[16:36] <vadi2> mrevell: found anything?
[16:36]  * jpds hugs NCommander.
[16:37] <NCommander> Now I just need to decide if I'm going to keep firefox/thunderbird/sunbird, or just go to Seamonkey
[16:37] <NCommander> (I'm getting a little tired having to install extensions for each app seperately)
[16:38] <mrevell> vadi2: I should have an answer in 20 mins or so. Just need to wait for the right person to become available.
[16:38] <vadi2> ah
[16:49] <mrevell> vadi2: Still in testing right now. I'll post an update on the LP blog if there's more news
[16:49] <vadi2> alrighty
[16:49] <vadi2> thanks for your time
[17:08] <mathiaz> hi - is it possible to grant access to a private branch to a team that is not the owner of the private branch?
[17:08] <CarlFK1> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317227  if I post that to a non edge person, they will get redirected to the right url, right?
[17:09] <CarlFK1> or better yet, is there a non edge url on the page somewhere I can click/copy?  or do I just drop edge from the url?
[17:13] <charlie-tca> you can use https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/317227 and it will give the same bug report
[17:13] <maxb> You just drop edge. from the url
[17:55] <sidnei> anyone available that can create a project group for me?
[17:56] <Ursinha> bug 311690
[17:56] <Ursinha> thanks ubottu
[17:57] <matsubara> sidnei: file a question in launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion with the project group name and the projects that should be under it. the CHR will take care of the request
[17:58] <sidnei> matsubara: it's been sitting there for about a mont already :(
[17:58] <sidnei> question 54843 fwiw
[17:58] <matsubara> kiko-phone: ^\
[18:06] <kiko-phone> what what?
[18:08] <lamalex> anyone know who runs ubottu?
[18:08] <Ursinha> lamalex, you should ask it
[18:08] <Ursinha> ubottu, owner
[18:08] <Ursinha> :)
[18:08] <lamalex> good call
[18:09] <sidnei> kiko-phone: question 54843, whenever you get a chance plz
[19:21] <sidnei> kiko-phone: danke!
[19:28] <kiko-phone> sidnei, no problemo! now get me some z3c lave
[19:28] <sidnei> kiko-phone: would you get off the phone, i wouldn't mind talking to you :)
[19:59] <sidnei> kiko-phone: still on the phone?
[20:00] <kiko-phone> yeah
[20:00] <kiko-phone> sidnei, you wanna talk over the phone too?
[20:01] <sidnei> kiko-phone: not necessarily. i'm going away soon. just wanted to get my lp branch pushed somewhere, and i don't have access yet
[20:01] <kiko-phone> sidnei, oh! access where?
[20:02] <sidnei> kiko-phone: can't push to lp:~sidnei/launchpad/<branch>, if you know what that means
[20:02] <kiko-phone> I do, but that's strange I think
[20:02] <kiko-phone> let me fix it
[20:18] <Philip5> spitfire_: btw, i reinstalled yesterday and went for 64bit now instead and i guess that mean there will be much more 64bit packages on my repo from now on :)
[20:18] <sidnei> kiko-phone: are we there yet?
[20:18] <spitfire_> Philip5: great ;)
[20:19] <spitfire_> Right now I switched to 8.04, because of my inter graphics card.
[20:19] <spitfire_> I'm going to backport few things.
[20:19] <Philip5> oh
[20:19] <spitfire_> It'll be a little hard.
[20:19] <Philip5> i have some stuff backported for hardy in my hardy repo
[20:19] <spitfire_> For example I need new pulseaudio, which can only work with bluez-4
[20:20] <spitfire_> which is included since intrepid:/
[20:20] <Philip5> that might be tricky
[20:20] <spitfire_> Philip5: thanks, but when I do backporind I'm sure I haven't missed out anything.
[20:20] <Philip5> oki
[20:20] <spitfire_> I know bluez-thing will be tricky.
[20:21] <spitfire_> I will backport some things from jauntu, some from intrepid, and debian-experimental.
[20:21] <spitfire_> :)
[20:29] <kiko-phone> sidnei, try now.
[20:29] <sidnei> kiko-phone: seems to be working
[20:30] <uws> i just made a mistake while pushing a branch to lp
[20:30] <kiko-phone> sidnei, I likes the sound of dat!!
[20:30] <uws> is it possible to remove a branch altogether?
[20:30] <kiko-phone> uws, that is life. mistakes happen. yeah, you can just delete with the little minus next to the branch name
[20:30] <jpds> uws: Mistake on one push or the whole branch?
[20:30] <uws> i accidently pushed a branch for a gedit-plugin as a branch of gedit it self (which it clearly isn't)
[20:30] <uws> jpds: whole new branch
[20:31] <uws> lp:~uws/gedit/textsize
[20:31] <uws> that one should be gone
[20:31] <uws> i tried to remove the files using sftp
[20:31] <uws> so the .bzr/ is already gone ;)
[20:32] <uws> but it's still on the website and the directory itself is still there
[20:32] <Chris`> Hey, can I speak to a LP sysadmin please?
[20:34] <beuno> Chris`, what's up?
[20:34] <Chris`> beuno: Do you mind if I were to query you?
[20:34] <mwhudson> uws: little red minus sign icon next to the branch name
[20:34] <beuno> Chris`, sure, go ahead
[20:34] <mwhudson> uws: next time though, you can edit the branch and move it to a different project, no need to delete it
[20:35] <sidnei> kiko-phone: you got mail (and branch)
[20:36] <uws> mwhudson: ok thanks. there is no lp project for this plugin yet
[20:36] <uws> mwhudson: is it okay to create one for really minor pet projects like editor plugins?
[20:36] <mwhudson> uws: if you just clear the project field, it will become a +junk branch
[20:37] <mwhudson> (in the spirit of http://www.samba.org/junkcode/)
[20:37] <uws> mwhudson: say i have a branch on my machine, and i want to share it using LP, but there the branch is not related to a project, what is the syntax to use for "bzr push lp:???" ?
[20:37] <mwhudson> uws: bzr push lp:~uws/+junk/branch-name
[20:37] <uws> what is the "+" for?
[20:38] <uws> "meta-project" or something?
[20:38] <mwhudson> + isn't valid in project names
[20:38] <mwhudson> so it's a marker that you're outside the project namespace i guess
[20:38] <mwhudson> the "do i create a project or not" decision is a bit of a tricky one
[20:39] <mwhudson> the question i ask is "do i want to be able to file bugs for this code", if not, it may as well stay +junk for the moment
[20:39] <uws> ok, but the "+junk" seems a fixed string, e.g. "+playground" doesn't work (just tested this)
[20:40] <uws> anyway, thanks. the ~uws/+junk/ will do
[20:46] <mwhudson> yes
[20:46] <mwhudson> maybe that would be a neat idea, allow +anything
[20:46] <mwhudson> how this is all handled is a little bit up for discussion at the moment
[20:48] <uws> ju
[20:48] <uws> oops
[20:48] <uws> junk sounds like "throw away anytime"
[20:48] <uws> too negative for a place to publish the hard work of creative minds ;)
[20:48] <mwhudson> right
[20:49] <lamalex> but also you don't want LP turning into a place where people just push anything
[20:49]  * lamalex goes back into the shadows
[20:49] <Nafallo> is there an easy guide to setup translations for a project? :-)
[20:50] <uws> lamalex: yeah, it's a trade off
[20:50] <mwhudson> well, so long as it's still easy to find what you want, i don't see an excess of stuff as a problem
[20:50] <mwhudson> (our sysadmins may thing differently, of course :)
[20:52] <spm> mwhudson: 'rm -f' and 'drop database' solve pretty much all the space issues I've ever come across ;-)
[20:52] <mwhudson> spm: doesn't quite meet the "conservation of inconvenience" threshold though
[20:52] <spm> does for me!
[20:52] <spm> :-P
[20:54] <mwhudson> spm: you'd skip the awfful branches then somehow?
[20:54] <spm> mwhudson: na. no favouritisim here
[20:54] <spm> just move everything to g i t h u b :-P
[20:56]  * rockstar slaps spm
[20:57] <rockstar> :)
[20:57] <spm> rockstar: the smiley was .. implied :-)
[20:58] <rockstar> spm, oh, that slap was for no reason.  I just wanted to slap you.
[20:59] <spm> :-)
[20:59] <spm> *ouch*
[20:59] <spm> ??
[21:01]  * thumper slaps spm too
[21:01] <thumper> no smiley fromme
[21:02] <spm> :-D
[21:03]  * wgrant slaps Launchpad, just to be different.
[21:05] <Ursinha> where's beuno to slap spm too
[21:05]  * thumper slaps the librarian
[21:05] <thumper> mwhudson: I've lost your "fix" for bzr plugin loading
[21:06] <spm> Ursinha: you're all too kind :-)
[21:06] <thumper> mwhudson: damn, wrong channel
[21:14] <kirkland> after uploading a .po/.pot file for translations in LP, who has to review that?
[21:14] <kirkland> there's something about a human processing that needs to happen
[21:18] <thumper> kirkland: I think a translations bod needs to eyeball it
[21:19] <thumper> kirkland: however I'm not 100% on that
[21:19] <kirkland> thumper: right, so that's a member of some LP team?
[21:19] <kirkland> thumper: i'm curious what team that might be ;-)
[21:19] <thumper> kirkland: maybe just a translation-expert?  not sure
[21:20] <kirkland> thumper: hrm, okay
[22:58] <mdke> kirkland: pretty sure it is someone in ~rosetta-admins
[22:58] <kirkland> mdke: cheers!
[22:59] <mdke> :)
[23:08] <mathiaz> is it possible to grant access to a private branch to a team that is not the owner of the private branch?
[23:09] <james_w> mathiaz: read access?
[23:16] <mathiaz> so is it possible to grant read-only access for a private bzr branch to certain people?
[23:18] <lifeless> mathiaz: yes
[23:18] <lifeless> mathiaz: subscribe them
[23:20] <djsiegel> Hello, the GNOME Do project has two main LP projects, do and do-plugins.
[23:20] <djsiegel> People almost always file bugs that should be filed in do-plugins, in the do bug property.
[23:21] <djsiegel> Is there a good way for us to say "Hey! Report plugin bugs at do-plugins..." ?
[23:21] <djsiegel> It doesn't look Like I can put anything message at http://bugs.launchpad.net/do
[23:22] <djsiegel> I need a big, flashy "your computer may be at risk" ad
[23:23] <james_w> hi djsiegel, if you go to do's main page and go to "change details" you can fill in the box titled "If I’m reporting a bug, I should include, if possible:  (Optional)"
[23:23] <james_w> that will be displayed on the bug reporting page
[23:23] <james_w> though currently it's a little un-obvious, which I don't like
[23:24] <wgrant> Completely unobvious, I'd say.
[23:24] <djsiegel> Ah, wonderful!
[23:24] <james_w> wgrant: the setting, or the guidelines on the reporting page?
[23:24] <wgrant> Although it's better than it used to be, when it was in a bright yellow box.
[23:24] <wgrant> james_w: Both!