[00:01] <astromme-laptop> alonea: =/. sorry to hear that. I use a nub (Lenovo X61 tablet) and so I'm 'immune' to that in a sense.
[00:02] <alonea> astromme-laptop: heh. after using a touchpad for 3 years, a mouse is foreign to me. I do like touchscreens though, for movement at least. I hate the iphone keyboard.
[00:02] <astromme-laptop> alonea: Interesting. I use a mouse at college with my desktop. I can't live on a touchpad/tracknub for more than about a month....
[00:03] <dudu2256> do you speak portuguese
[00:03] <dudu2256> ???
[00:03] <alonea> astromme-laptop: tracknub....ewww. but yeah. have mastered video games with it. wow...fps's..I am good.
[00:04] <astromme-laptop> !pt | dudu2256
[00:06] <NGL-TwYsTeD> hi
[00:06] <blight_> !de blight_
[00:07] <NGL-TwYsTeD> !de Jesus
[00:07] <NGL-TwYsTeD> well ubottu arent you in luck
[00:07] <NGL-TwYsTeD> did you all know that Jesus Christ bore the sin for every one
[00:07] <NGL-TwYsTeD> so that no man shall have to perish
[00:07] <NGL-TwYsTeD> but have ever lasting life
[00:07] <NGL-TwYsTeD> through the confession of sins
[00:07] <NGL-TwYsTeD> and by the Grace of our God Lord Jesus Christ you can be saved
[00:08] <yusniel> hola a todos
[00:08] <BluesKaj> !religion | NGL-TwYsTeD
[00:08] <NGL-TwYsTeD> its not a religion
[00:08] <NGL-TwYsTeD> its a relationship with the father
[00:08] <NGL-TwYsTeD> just like im talking to you right now
[00:08] <yusniel> hi
[00:08] <NGL-TwYsTeD> Jesus Preached against orginized religion
[00:08] <NGL-TwYsTeD> hi
[00:08] <NGL-TwYsTeD> :D
[00:09] <mefisto__> and how does this relate to kubuntu, NGL-TwYsTeD?
[00:09] <BluesKaj> do you have  a relavent question about Kubuntu ?
[00:09] <NGL-TwYsTeD> well i have many relevant questions
[00:10] <dr_willis> I suggest you ask them then.
[00:10] <NGL-TwYsTeD> i suggest ill just idle and watch
[00:10] <NGL-TwYsTeD> :D
[00:10] <NGL-TwYsTeD> <3
[00:11] <dr_willis> I guess you dont have many relevant questions then...
[00:11] <NGL-TwYsTeD> maybe i dont need to ask to many questions
[00:11] <yusniel> i have a problem. When I run command aptitude update in the Konsole, this launch the next error message
[00:11] <yusniel> Ign file: intrepid/main Translation-es
[00:11] <NGL-TwYsTeD> maybe a question for you is why is it your concern? what i have thats relevant?
[00:11] <BluesKaj> no matter how good your intentions are, NGL-TwYsTeD, if you have nothing to ask about kubuntu or linux , then pls refrain from filling the text box here with thoughts irrelavent to this chat
[00:11] <NGL-TwYsTeD> dr_willis :D
[00:11] <alonea> whoops
[00:11] <alonea> forgot to plug in laptop...
[00:11] <alonea> ^^;;;;
[00:11] <yusniel> My OS is Kubuntu 8.10
[00:12] <dr_willis> alonea,  :) hate when that happens
[00:12] <yusniel> can answear me someone??
[00:12] <alonea> dr_willis: really. not on my game today
[00:12] <NGL-Jabrroa> yusniel:  idk sorry bro
[00:13] <NGL-TwYsTeD> yusniel sorry
[00:13] <dr_willis> yusniel,  try a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try again?
[00:13] <yusniel> that ok
[00:13] <dr_willis> brb
[00:13] <NGL-TwYsTeD> praise the Lord i love 8.10
[00:13] <NGL-Jabrroa> im installing it right now :)
[00:13] <maxbaldwin> Me too NGL-TwYsTeD
[00:13] <maxbaldwin> hey st33med
[00:13] <NGL-Jabrroa> KDE4
[00:14] <st33med> hey, came for the ---
[00:14] <st33med> you know
[00:14] <st33med> :)
[00:14] <maxbaldwin> yeah. me too.
[00:14] <NGL-TwYsTeD> hi st33med
[00:14] <st33med> hey
[00:14] <yusniel> nothing, continue this error. I have a local repository..
[00:14] <NGL-TwYsTeD> st33med you know about the good news?
[00:14] <st33med> No
[00:15] <NGL-Jabrroa> sup st33med
[00:15] <NGL-TwYsTeD> what os would John the baptist use
[00:15] <NGL-TwYsTeD> if he had a computer
[00:16] <NGL-TwYsTeD> i believe him and Jesus possibly would be using Kubuntu
[00:16] <NGL-TwYsTeD> what do you think NGL-Jabrroa
[00:16] <Zorix> anything but windows
[00:16] <maxbaldwin> let's try keep on topic
[00:16] <NGL-Jabrroa> hmm cant say lol but maybe
[00:16] <NGL-TwYsTeD> true
[00:16] <NGL-Jabrroa> yes not windows :)
[00:16] <maxbaldwin> support channel, not an offtopic chat.
[00:16] <NGL-TwYsTeD> God bless  this channel
[00:16] <NGL-TwYsTeD> and every one in it <3
[00:17] <NGL-TwYsTeD> thats support right there you cant buy or download maxbaldwin
[00:17] <NGL-TwYsTeD> :D
[00:18] <dr_willis> yusniel,  got a problem?
[00:18] <yusniel> yes
[00:18] <chrisrogers> greetings, i have a question, i'm trying to upgrade to the latest release from 8.04.1 and it wont' seem to let me
[00:19] <NGL-TwYsTeD> chris rogers i beliebe i can help you
[00:20] <dr_willis> yusniel,  are you going to tell the channel the problem? or do we have to play 20 questions to guess it?
[00:20] <yusniel> nothing, I execute the command apt-get update and the error message
[00:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[00:20] <dr_willis> clarify the whole problem from the beginning - may be a good idea. Ive been in and out all day
[00:20] <NGL-Jabrroa> dr_willis:
[00:20] <NGL-Jabrroa> he already said it
[00:20] <tekstacy> Anyone good with SSH? I can ssh localhost, but when I try to ssh another machine, it times out. Port 22 is open.
[00:20] <NGL-Jabrroa> scroll up
[00:20] <dr_willis> NGL-Jabrroa,  and as i said ive been in and out of the channel a lot.. so i dont have it all.
[00:21] <NGL-Jabrroa> np :)
[00:21] <NGL-Jabrroa> im just telling ya :)
[00:21] <dr_willis> Plus what i did see him say.. made no sence.
[00:21] <elwood> tekstacy: can you ing the other machine? can you try using the ip instead of hostname? is the sshd running on the other machine?
[00:22] <NGL-Jabrroa> hmmm well idk what it means lol
[00:22] <yusniel> Well, I need update my repositories, My repositories are local repositories, but I run the command aptitude update this command try the next error message
[00:22] <yusniel> Writing extended state information... Done
[00:22] <yusniel> Get:1 file: intrepid Release.gpg [189B]
[00:22] <yusniel> Ign file: intrepid/main Translation-es
[00:22] <yusniel> Ign file: intrepid/restricted Translation-es
[00:22] <yusniel> Ign file: intrepid/universe Translation-es
[00:22] <yusniel> Ign file: intrepid/multiverse Translation-es
[00:22] <yusniel> Get:2 file: intrepid Release [65,9kB]
[00:22] <yusniel> Reading package lists... Done
[00:23] <tekstacy> elwood, Yeah, it pings    yeah, sshd is running
[00:24] <alonea> the flood are coming!
[00:24] <NGL-TwYsTeD> chrisrogers glad to help :D
[00:24] <elwood> tekstacy: try with ssh youruser@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with ip
[00:24] <NGL-Jabrroa> well i have to go to help watch kids for bible study so i will bbl everyone :) God bless
[00:24] <yusniel> dr_willis, you can help me?
[00:24] <NGL-TwYsTeD> God Bless
[00:25] <dr_willis> Ign file: intrepid/multiverse Translation-es   -> means its ignoreing the file - as far as i know.. whats the actual proplem? is it actally not doing somthing?
[00:25] <tekstacy> elwood.  It even worked before, then stopped working durring several updates.       Kinda reminds me of Windows like that
[00:25] <elwood> tekstacy: strange, which updates? this should be the question :)
[00:26] <tekstacy> elwood, that's what I did. Moth machines are on a small lan.
[00:26] <yusniel> that's the problem
[00:26] <tekstacy> elwood, that is a VERY good question. I haven't tried to use ssh for a few months, it could be many
[00:27] <dr_willis> yusniel,  whats the problem? does it fail to later install stuff? or what?   If the file has allready been downloaded/read - it gets ignored due to it not needing to get reread...
[00:28] <dr_willis> when i do a 'apt-get update' i get several lines like -->  Ign http://winff.org intrepid/universe Translation-en_US
[00:28] <dr_willis> thats because that file has allready been read/downloade and not changed. so it dosent need to get redownloaded
[00:29] <tekstacy> Is there an easy way to wipe out all the ssh stuf, config files, binaries, and just start over?
[00:29] <yusniel> no, I can install any package without problems.
[00:29] <chrisrogers> NGL-TwYsTeD: starting the upgrade, thanks for the help
[00:29] <yusniel> ok, that's ok
[00:30] <mefisto__> I had a repo that was no longer online. somehow that was causing the official repos to not update properly. once I removed the bad repo from sources.list I suddenly had over 100 upgraded packages
[00:31] <Makuseru> Hi, I just reinstalled Kubuntu, and I seem to be having a display problem. The largest resolution I can select is 1152x864. Before I reinstalled i ran at either 1280x960 or 1400x1050. How can i force a resolution, or add another resolution to my choices under "Display" in System Settings?
[00:31] <yusniel> or is not a mistake...ok, thank you
[00:31] <yusniel> tthank you dr_willis.
[00:32] <dr_willis> yusniel,  its a 'feature'
[00:32] <dr_willis> so a lot of worrying about nothing. :)
[00:33] <tekstacy> elwood, I think I might just bite the bullet and upgrade to 8.10 on both machines and hope for the best (*snif* Bye KDE 3.x, I'll miss you....)
[00:33] <Ratchet4620> ok
[00:33] <yusniel> ok, dr_willis, I am new in this world, and I need help. Thanks again.
[00:34] <Ratchet4620> how do i change the read write permisions on my exturnal HD and my other partions so that i can delete things and move files there
[00:34] <NGL-TwYsTeD> yusniel no worries :D
[00:34] <yusniel> ok
[00:34] <dr_willis> Ratchet4620,  it will depend on the filesystem of the external HD
[00:35] <Ratchet4620> its ext2
[00:36] <tekstacy> bye all. Thanks for the help
[00:37]  * tekstacy tips hat to dr_willis
[00:37] <dr_willis> Ratchet4620,  what i do for exceranal ext2/3 drives is make each user a directory and chown/chmod that dir to be owned by the specific user. That way they have full access  to that directrory
[00:37] <dr_willis> and thus can use it to store things in.
[00:38] <dr_willis>  with ext2/3 the  big thing to be aware of is the files owner.
[00:38] <Ratchet4620> ok
[00:38] <dr_willis> with ntfs/vfat - its all controlled by the MOUNT options.
[00:38] <dr_willis> thats the big picture/thing to rember. :P
[00:39] <dr_willis> if you want the user to own the whole drive..  'sudo chown user.user /media/DrivesCurrentMountPoint'  (AFTER the drive is mounted)
[00:47] <Makuseru> Hi, I just reinstalled Kubuntu, and I seem to be having a display problem. The largest resolution I can select is 1152x864. Before I reinstalled i ran at either 1280x960 or 1400x1050. How can i force a resolution, or add another resolution to my choices under "Display" in System Settings?
[00:58] <dr_willis> Makuseru,  what video card? what kind of monitor?
[00:59] <Makuseru> dr_willis: ATI Radeon 7200 (i think), Monitor Dell E772p.
[00:59] <dr_willis> You did install the fglrx drivers?  On many of my systems - i cant use all reh res's untill i get either nvidia or fglrx setup first
[01:00] <Makuseru> My card is too old for that,
[01:01] <dr_willis> for the fglrx? Then you are using the 'ati' drivers?
[01:01] <Makuseru> I'm not sure what drivers it's using, Xorg just says "Configured Video Device"
[01:03] <dr_willis> Its possible its using the vesa driver. instead of the  ati driver.. Id be suprised if it  couldent use fglrx also.. but ive not used any ati card since i got rid of  my last one 2 years ago.
[01:03] <dr_willis> You may want to check the forums If they are up. for that Exact video card and whats reccomdnede to use
[01:04] <Makuseru> dr_willis: I rememeber trying to get fglrx to work when i was into Beryl(Compiz) and finding out that my card is too old to use it. But how would i go about installing the ati driver?
[01:04] <dr_willis> That hardware manager tool   normally.
[01:04] <dr_willis> !find jockey
[01:04] <dr_willis> sudo jockey-kde
[01:04] <dr_willis> :)
[01:05] <Makuseru> I dont see where i can install from there.
[01:05] <dr_willis> it should show all drivers/hardware that it knows about..
[01:05] <dr_willis> could be its not able to use fglrx -
[01:06] <Makuseru> It didnt display anything in it.
[01:08] <szrhawaii> does anyone know witch plugin or file i need to download from the package manager for my ipod so i can manage my songs throug amarok
[01:09] <DrX> anyone know how to give just ONE user Read Only rights to an ext3 volume?
[01:10] <p_quarles> DrX: whole disk encryption
[01:11] <dr_willis> DrX,   what do you want other users to be able to do?
[01:17] <techbw> hi all.
[01:17] <szrhawaii> dr_willis or p_quarles do any of you happen to know how to get my ipod to share info with my amarok or what i have to configure to make it work or if there is a program i have to download that specifically does that only
[01:17] <techbw> is there some way to boost volume in Kubuntu, my sound is not as loud as in Windows, it is bearly audible, have tried adjusting volume, it is currently on max
[01:18] <dr_willis> Ive never had an Ipod. and i rarely use amarok. so  No idea szrhawaii
[01:19] <techbw> never mind managed to adjust it ....thx anyways
[01:19] <dr_willis> try that alsa-mixer techbw  it could be  your volume controlls re not  controlling the right mixer.
[01:19] <dr_willis> ;)
[01:19] <dr_willis> lol
[01:19] <szrhawaii> thanks anyways
[01:19] <szrhawaii> your mixer should do the trick
[01:19] <techbw> exactly what i did...opened also and saw that the bottom of the window there is a control similar to windows master volume control, for peaks, and changed that
[01:20] <szrhawaii> did it not work
[01:21] <szrhawaii> if you click the sound icon on your icon try than mixer then you should have a window open to adjust all the different mixers did you do that part or the first part
[01:22] <dr_willis> ive noticed that in some cases that console alsa-mixer tool has more 'sliders' to play with :)
[01:22] <szrhawaii> yep it does but you can add those to the mixer also
[01:23] <szrhawaii> well i got my music from my ipod but how do i put music on it now
[01:23] <szrhawaii> hmmm
[01:27] <techbw> how can i set vlc media player to automatically open when clicking on a movie file
[01:28] <techbw> movie files keep wanting to open with kaffeine and it does not have the codecs to play them, but the play in vlc
[01:28] <Zorix> codecs are built into vlc
[01:29] <dr_willis> I forget were kde4 even keeps its file-extension defaults.. :) but its in that area some where techbw
[01:30] <DrX> dr_willis: anything they want EXCEPT create folders in the root of /volume/sharedir
[01:30] <szrhawaii> you can always just get rid of kaffiene if you have vlc
[01:30] <dr_willis> DrX,  mke a sub directroery for the user.. give then ownership of the directrory..  they then can do whatever they want in there.
[01:30] <techbw> yeah...just remove it...although it is downloading the codecs now..so hopfully it too will be able to open the files
[01:31] <szrhawaii> why would you need kaffiene and vlc anyways
[01:31] <DrX> dr_willis: no, i need a backup user that has RO access to the entire ext3 volume
[01:31] <szrhawaii> they are both video players
[01:32] <mefisto__> szrhawaii: some videos play better in one than the other
[01:32] <szrhawaii> i prefer mplayer but vlc is better than kaffiene
[01:32] <dr_willis> DrX,  i belive thats what groups are for.. but ive rarely had to mess with the owner/user/world permissions and groups.
[01:32] <DrX> dr_willis: i read an article and i'm thinking of creating two groups, e.g., all and backup and then create a user backupop and add it to the backupgrp and then add all other users to the all group and lastly setfacl -d -m group:allgrp:rw /sharedir and setfacl -d -m group:backupgrp:r and maybe do a chown .all /volume/share
[01:33] <szrhawaii> and if he has kaffiene he must have kde 3.5 not kde4 because the default for the kde4 is dragonplayer
[01:33] <DrX> dr_willis: perhaps this warrants testing on a non-live system before rolling out to a production server...
[01:34] <dr_willis> DrX,  always a good idea.  it proberly can be done with th eexisting permission system.  theres also the Other enhanced securiity permission systems.. but ive rarely ever used those.
[01:39] <legodude_> I hate manpages so much
[01:49] <Makuseru> Hi, I just tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to fix my resolution. And it was going normal untill it to the keyboard/mouse part. After that it just exited and closed. Does anyone know why this would close before i got to the part where i could select resolutions?
[01:50] <dr_willis> I was thinking that method of reconfiguring X was a bit out of date.
[01:51] <Makuseru> Im not using the latest version of Kubuntu though.
[01:51] <Makuseru> Im on 8.04.
[01:51] <Makuseru> And that's always worked before when i couldnt force the res i wanted.
[01:51] <dr_willis> i was thinking its been out of date since 8.04 :) but perhaps not
[01:51] <NGL-TwYsTeD> Makuseru http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:51] <NGL-TwYsTeD> this i believe will help you bro
[01:51] <NGL-TwYsTeD> if you done with 8.10
[01:51] <dr_willis> I normally just isntall the nvidia drivers and the res's get 'fixed'
[01:51] <Makuseru> NGL-TwYsTeD: I have no intent to upgrade
[01:51] <NGL-TwYsTeD> 8.04 im sorry
[01:51] <NGL-TwYsTeD> Makuseru ok apologies just trying to help :)
[01:52] <NGL-TwYsTeD> <3
[01:52] <Makuseru> Tried it yesterday, and it broke my computer. =(
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: they phased that out in hardy, much to everyones disappointment
[01:53] <dr_willis> every time they make any progress 1/2 the peopel complain they want it the old way... :)
[01:53] <dr_willis> Now  people get mad the  xorg.conf files are so minimal
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: true, I dont get why its getting like that, just seems all these ex-windows users are terrfied of text files
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: what video card do you have?
[01:55] <Makuseru> ATI Radeon 7200.
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Makuseru
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: you read that?
[01:55] <Makuseru> I cant use the latest drivers.
[01:55] <Makuseru> My card is too old.
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> let me check
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> its an ok card
[01:57] <Makuseru> Its a crap card.
[01:57] <Makuseru> It's from like 1999.
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116730
[01:57] <Makuseru> If i could get dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to work I could fix this, but i dont know whats wrong with it.
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> still not a bad card, better than some other cards. I have a system with an nvidia tnt2 ultra 32mb
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: theres an xorg.conf there, looks like yuor 7200 uses the ati driver
[01:58] <dr_willis> 'text files are scary! we want the sytem regiestry that just sort of Looks like a Directroy structure with text files!'
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: hack most of that xorg.conf out into your own and restart xserver, yiou'll be reet
[01:58] <Makuseru> Alright, ill give it a try.
[01:58] <dr_willis> boot a  live cd..  copy its xorg.conf over. :)
[01:58] <tyutin> anyone ever get kmailcvt to import from a network folder?
[01:59] <Makuseru> dr_willis: thats the vibe i got when i tried 8.10, was that it was just trying to hard, trying to be to trendy and such. for the windows or mac user
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: i acked off being trendy for slick and smooth with fluxbox
[02:02] <Makuseru> ActionParsnip: I just love KDE3, no display manage has come close to it, imo.
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: i use kde, just not kwin
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/desktop.jpg?t=1232071407
[02:06] <Makuseru> Updated xorg, trying to restart now.
[02:13] <White_Pelican> in kde 4.2 rc1, is there any way to revert back to the old adept?
[02:16] <Makuseru> ActionParsnip: Wouldnt start up after that edit.
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: then yuo need different options
[02:18] <Makuseru> Do you have any ideas why dpkg-reconfig would stop working?
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Makuseru: they took that thing out for some reason
[02:43] <buckethead> Anybody know a good netnewswire solution for linux?
[02:45] <buckethead> Google gave up 0.
[02:46]  * dr_willis dsent even knwo what a newnewswire solution is
[02:47] <buckethead> Hehe.. Rss reader with sync, Lets me read it on my laptop, or on the web, or on my phone.
[02:48] <buckethead> There is something called akregator-newsgator in launchpad but there is absolutely no info on it.
[02:53]  * kniolet <3 akregator
[02:54] <buckethead> I'd love to continue using it, but it could really use a few improvements. I've filed bugs and sent emails. I think i'm unloved.
[02:57] <kniolet> buckethead: go kick fosterfeld in #akregator sometime then lol
[03:01] <bryan_> hello all. i have removed the main panel from my install and now i cant get it back. is there anyway an terminal command to get it back?
[03:02] <emanuel> I have upgraded KDE to the RC and I'm having a few problems... I have 'restore previous session' selected in System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager, but when logout and login back it always restores a session previuos to the upgrade.
[03:02] <emanuel> Anyone noticed the same?
[03:03] <emanuel> Also, when I'm logging out I select 'shutdown' and instead of shutting down I got back to KDM.
[03:03] <bryan_> is there any way to restore the normal bottom panel on kubunut?
[03:04] <buckethead> bryan_: Click the cashew in teh upper right and readd it
[03:04] <vbgunz> is there a way to find out what particular type of ram the computer has? ddr1 ddr2, sdram, etc?
[03:04] <vbgunz> without opening it up of course
[03:05] <buckethead> look up the mobo online?
[03:05] <Guest69943> is there a way to change the clock to normal time instead of military time?
[03:06] <bryan_> Guest69943: that is the same question i have. i have not been able to change.
[03:07] <Guest69943> bryan_: LET ME ASK MY FRIEND SEE IF HE KNOWS
[03:08] <Guest69943> bryan no he is not on
[03:10] <vbgunz> anyone know why hovering over some pieces in plasma on KDE 4.2 RC1, you may see a checkerboard background? this is perhaps the ugliest visual element I deal with now :(
[03:11] <Guest69943> no but have the same problem
[03:11] <bryan_> when i re add the panel, it adds to the top, how do i move it?
[03:11] <blackwaltz> wow was that fast ... stock install + bootchart + profile boot ... my bootchart is 13 seconds :)
[03:12] <Guest69943> nice
[03:13] <blackwaltz> peak throughput in the boot sequence was 136MB/s ... got myself a shiny new SSD
[03:14] <bryan_> how do i move the panel from the top to the bottom?
[03:15] <blackwaltz> bryan: probably need to click on the shell on the right side of the panel, then you can move it however you wish
[03:16] <bryan_> blackwaltz: i have tried that several times. i dont see any option to move it and when i drag it only makes the panel bigger.
[03:17] <blackwaltz> bryan_: there should be two parts to the panel when you click the shell IIRC, the upper one that isn't nomrally present is the one you drag
[03:17] <bryan_> blackwaltz: thank you. i just got it :)
[03:19] <Guest69943> bryan_: you using kde4.1?
[03:20] <bryan_> Guest69943: i think so? i am using the standard one
[03:20] <bryan_> Guest69943: yes, kde
[03:21] <Guest69943> bryan_: couse if you booted 8.10 out of the box it doesnt give the option to autohide or move the panel
[03:21] <nashk> Hi
[03:21] <Guest69943> bryan_: or at least mine doesnt
[03:21] <bryan_> oh, i accidently removed it, while trying to change the clock from military time
[03:22] <nashk> When I plug my ipod into the pc, nothing is taking place at all in the syslogs
[03:22] <nashk> as if it doesn't see it.
[03:22] <nashk> Any ideas?
[03:22] <bryan_> nashk: do you have program installed that can handle the ipod?
[03:22] <nashk> bryan_ Amarok 2. But the thing is, the system doesn't even notice it.
[03:23] <vbgunz> wasn't there a way to see what hardware you had installed on your pc? there was a little utility for this. I dont think I have it. anyone know what it is?
[03:23] <buckethead> nashk" how new of an ipod?
[03:23] <nashk> buckethead. Not new, I think 2nd generation ipod nano. 4gb
[03:24] <nashk> worked fine with other kubuntus, but not 8.10
[03:24] <nashk> Do I need to install any libraries? I know I have libgpod, but anything else?
[03:25] <Guest69943> how do i get screensavers in 8.10?
[03:25] <bryan_> Guest69943: did you find out how to modify the clock?
[03:25] <buckethead> Hm. My main thought was that the very new ones are hostile to linux. Past that, I got nothing.
[03:26] <Guest69943> bryan_: heck no i wish
[03:32] <anthony> bryan_: you there?
[03:33] <bryan_> Guest15338: yes
[03:34] <Guest15338> bryan_: go to kmenu system settings regional &language chane time there
[03:35] <Guest15338> bryan_: once you get there go to time date and change format to am pm then log out and log back in
[03:35] <bryan_> Guest15338: ok. thanks
[03:36] <Guest15338> bryan_: ill be on for while let me know if it works!
[03:37] <bryan_> yea... it worked.
[03:37] <Guest15338> bryan_:  kool beans dude
[04:05] <chrisrogers> anybody know about missing icons in kde 4.2?
[04:05] <chrisrogers> is anybody alive?
[04:08] <shana_> hello
[04:08] <Guest1003> how do i get screensavers on kubuntu 8.10?
[04:08] <chrisrogers> hi there
[04:09] <shana_> Hi I have a questino. I have been having issues with a old computer of mine
[04:09] <shana_> I am frustrated
[04:09] <Guest1003> ok
[04:10] <Guest1003> shana_: whats your question?
[04:10] <shana_> i got an old server free and I wanted to put xubuntu on it but for some reason it acts up because the system is too 'old'.
[04:11] <Guest1003> is it a computer or a server?
[04:11] <ubuntu> ?
[04:11] <shana_> it is a server I am using asa compuuer
[04:11] <shana_> sorry this wireless keyboard
[04:12] <ubuntu__> experiencing problems with kubuntu instal please help
[04:12] <Guest1003> shana_: ok so what exactly are you asking?
[04:13] <Guest1003> ubuntu__: ask your question
[04:13] <shana_> well the specs are pent 3, 256 ram, 800 mhz. Why is it not working
[04:14] <sda2222> i should ask
[04:14] <sda2222> what are the common reasons
[04:14] <chrisrogers> i need help with missing icons on KDE 4.2 rc1
[04:14] <sda2222> since 8.04 I can't install on the old system
[04:15] <chrisrogers> is anybody here going to be helpful
[04:15] <Guest1003> sda2222: weird couse i have the same specs on my pc and it works well
[04:16] <Guest1003> sda2222: what exactly is it doing or not doing?
[04:16] <sda2222> Hmmm. This is not common. What is the bare minimum that 8.04 should work on?
[04:17] <Guest1003> chrisrogers: be patient ask your question and wait someone will answer you if they know the answer
[04:19] <sda2222> It seems to load up live then make the screen go crazy
[04:19] <Guest1003> sda2222: You need 128 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 192 MB RAM to install live cd
[04:20] <sda2222> Hmm. Ok.
[04:20] <Guest1003> sda2222:
[04:20] <sda2222> This has not increased
[04:20] <sda2222> has it?
[04:20] <Guest1003> there is an alternate install method
[04:20] <sda2222> Oh?
[04:22] <sda2222> Can you elaborate please?
[04:22] <Guest1003> sda2222: The Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM at install time
[04:22] <sda2222> nice.
[04:23] <Guest1003> sda2222: you are talking about xubuntu correct?
[04:23] <sda2222> correct
[04:23] <sda2222> where do you get this at?
[04:23] <Guest1003> sda2222: sry drinking some beers right now but there is a channel for xubuntu
[04:24] <sda2222> Ok, thanks so much!
[04:25] <sda2222> greatly appreciate it! Lay back o the beers. hehe. Night
[04:25] <Guest1003> sda2222:
[04:27] <Guest1003> sda2222: google xubuntu then click on get xubuntu then scroll down click on us then scroll to alternate method
[04:27] <Guest1003> sd or whatever your geogrphical are is
[04:43] <ondarun> how do i get the resticted driver aplet in system settings
[04:44] <ondarun> my notebook is on 640X480 and i cant change it
[04:45] <ondarun> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0844 (rev a2)
[04:46] <ondarun> it is a nvidia geforce 9100M G
[04:48] <ondarun> nobody?
[04:59] <zac> hey
[04:59] <zac> how do i install this:
[04:59] <zac> http://ieview.mozdev.org/ieview-linux.html
[05:00] <zac> in simpler terms
[05:02] <eross> Click on installation and then the XPI file?
[05:03] <zac> did you view the link ?
[05:03] <eross> yes, there's some tabs near the top
[05:03] <eross> install IE View 1.4 ?
[05:04] <zac> thanks !
[05:04] <eross> you are wanting to install it?
[05:04] <zac> ya i already did
[05:04] <zac> thanks
[05:08] <maxmahem> Question: I want to get started setting up some schedule tasks, like kron jobs I think. Is there a KDE tool for doing this?
[05:09] <genii> !info kcron
[05:11] <eross> kcron is pretty slick
[05:11] <eross> i'm repressed
[05:13] <maxmahem> hmm.. ok I apt-getted it. Any idea where it drops the app or what its command is?
[05:13] <maxmahem> man kcron gets me some stuff, but kcron does nothing.
[05:13] <maxmahem> No icon in my menu as far as I can tell either.
[05:14] <genii> maxmahem: On my kde3 it's in kmenu...system....kcron      on kde4 don't know offhand
[05:15] <eross> start up a terminal and type in kcron
[05:15] <maxmahem> tried that, bash tells me "command not found"
[05:17] <PSiL0> anyone experience dolphin becoming more and more laggy (4.1.3)?
[05:18] <genii> Hmm.
[05:18] <genii> !info kcron-kde4
[05:18] <maxmahem> just double checked, I surely installed it via apt-get.
[05:18] <PSiL0> turning off desktop effects help
[05:18] <tweakedeh> Any one in here feel like some Math 11 home work =]?
[05:19] <maxmahem> I found dolphin to be pretty buggy in the 4.2 beta, its improved quite a bit in the RC.
[05:19] <PSiL0> hmmm
[05:19] <stanley_> hey guys my bluetooth control doesn't open...is there a prob with that program?? i am using kubuntu intrepid btw
[05:19] <mister-tea-lapto> whereis kron
[05:19] <PSiL0> It is funny that there never has been a problem in the last two months (4.1.3) until this past week
[05:20] <eross> I just tried that mister, in kde 4, only found the manual entry for it
[05:20] <mister-tea-lapto> hmmm
[05:20] <eross> weird
[05:20] <PSiL0> there have been a few updates the past few days because it is just so strange that all of a sudden dolphin becomes extremely laggy over time..
[05:21] <PSiL0> the problem is not there after rebooting... strange
[05:21] <eross> there's always crontab -e
[05:21] <maxmahem> kcron: /usr/share/man/man8/kcron.8.gz is what I get from whereis (and another new usefull command thanks!)
[05:21] <PSiL0> hmmm, even with desktop effects off, the lag is there
[05:22] <eross> that's the manual entry for it maxmahem, not the actual thing
[05:22] <maxmahem> yeah thought as much.
[05:22] <maxmahem> I can pull the man page and what not up.
[05:22] <eross> maybe it's capitalized or has some weird thing like k-cron or misspelling
[05:22] <PSiL0> okay, I can't take this any longer.. goign to update to 4.1.4
[05:23] <maxmahem> man seems to indicate is should be 'kcron'
[05:23] <stanley_> can anyone help me with the bluettoth application, mine doesn't open at all, how can i solve this??
[05:25] <maxmahem> hmm seems It's a bug. Bummer. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2008-December/061837.html
[05:25] <eross> good hunting
[05:26] <eross> eh slackware 12 in virtualbox has it
[05:27] <mister-tea-lapto> according to my synaptic you need kcron-kde4
[05:28] <ubuntu> hello
[05:28] <PKodon> Hello
[05:28] <ubuntu> has anybody used the new kubuntu in an old machine?
[05:28] <PKodon> How old are we talking?
[05:29] <afner> well I am running kubuntu 7.04 in an old P3
[05:29] <afner> its runing good
[05:29] <afner> even though it has 500mhz
[05:29] <mister-tea-lapto> specs man specs
[05:29] <maxmahem> hmm... apt-get tells me kcron points at kcron-kde4, but its not on my source list.
[05:29] <afner> I updated RAM and an graphics card
[05:30] <afner> lets say 256GPU and 786 RAM
[05:30] <eross> kcron-kde4 looks like it will be replaced by kcron, that's what apt is telling me
[05:30] <afner> what do you think?
[05:31] <maxmahem> yeah what eross said. Well fire and a shoot. What am I to do?
[05:32] <afner> :S
[05:32] <PKodon> afner: Well, I guess it depends on what you want to do with it. Big whopping 3-D MMORPGs probably won't work, but I'm sure you'll be able to do a lot with it.
[05:32] <mister-tea-lapto> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[05:33] <PKodon> afner: If Kubuntu proves to need too many resources or too much power, you could always try Xubuntu.
[05:33] <mister-tea-lapto> system requirements^
[05:33] <maxmahem> stupid konversation keeps pointing to firefox instead of konquerer
[05:34] <eross> you can change the setting max, to point to firefox
[05:35] <genii> maxmahem: Settings...Configure Konversation...Behaviour..General... check off "use custom web browser"   then in the text entry field put: firefox '%u'
[05:36] <genii> Apply... etc
[05:36] <maxmahem> Actually I want it to point to konquerer, my default browser, which it should be doing already.
[05:36] <genii> maxmahem: Replace then firefox with konqueror in the example above
[05:37] <maxmahem> Yeah I know. It kind of bugs me a bit though. I want to like konversation, but for a KDE component I have found its interoperability a bit lacking.
[05:39] <afner> well.. doesnt say much of the processor
[05:39] <PKodon> Hmm, is #xubuntu on a different server than this channel? I keep seeing what looks like net splits on that channel.
[05:39] <afner> RAM is ok... so I guess I will give it a try live
[05:40] <afner> I am doenloading intrepid to see how it works
[05:41] <PKodon> afner: You might also try PC/OS, it's based off of Xubuntu 8.7x (Hardy), but it's got multimedia extensions Ubuntu won't include.
[05:41] <PKodon> afner: And it's supposed to work on older machines.
[05:46] <maxmahem_> so I suppose I got to wait till they fix the package unless I want to get kcron from elseware eh?
[05:49] <chrisrogers> hi there everybody
[05:49] <genii> maxmahem: Probably :/     You could go to the 4.2 RC1 as in the /topic , it may have it . I don't know that for sure though, as I'm still on kde3 for the moment
[05:51] <stacasajac> HI
[05:51] <maxmahem_> I'm on the 4.2 RC, so no joy.
[05:52] <stacasajac> HELLO?
[05:52] <PKodon> stacasajac: Hello.
[05:52] <maxmahem_> we can hear, er... see you.
[05:52] <genii> stacasajac: Yes, we see you. Please, do not use all uppercase
[05:54] <genii> stacasajac: What is the nature of your kubuntu emergency?
[05:56] <eross> maxmahem - or just use crontab -e from a terminal
[05:56] <eross> it's ok to get your hands dirty
[05:57] <maxmahem_> yeah, thats a project for tommorow I guess.
[05:57] <maxmahem_> seems this script for amarok keeps taking it down, and my sound system with it.
[05:58] <maxmahem_> so no NPR morning edition alarm clock just yet.
[05:58] <maxmahem_> any tricks for restarting the sound system after it crashes?
[05:58] <maxmahem_> I suppose I could just restart x.
[05:59] <TraceRoute> having a weird problem, I installed kubuntu 8.10 two days ago and so far all has been fine, but im noticing that none of my usb devices, digital camera, usb sticks etc. are mounting? anyone have a clue why?
[06:01] <maxmahem_> TraceRoute: no idea, do you have that little USB plasmlet running on your bar?
[06:04] <TraceRoute> ok well my usb stick does actually mount, not sure my my camera wouldn't
[06:04] <TraceRoute> but no i don't have the USB plasmlet installed
[06:07] <maxmahem_> hmm well if your usb stick shows up okay in /mnt (or wherever) than I would suspect something is different with your camera.
[06:07] <maxmahem_> Does it use some proprietary software for data transfer?
[06:09] <maxmahem_> I only ask about the plasmlet deal because it gives some nice feedback on when you mount drives.
[06:12] <sutin> I just upgraded from SuSE to kubuntu 8.10.  The sound is so low I have to crank the kmix up to max and then hold the speaker up to my ear in order to hear anything.  Any ideas?
[06:13] <maxmahem_> check to see that the sound is turned up in alsamixer?
[06:14] <TraceRoute> maxmahem_ no it always mounted fine in gnome im not sure why it don't want to mount
[06:15] <sutin> Bingo!  Thanks maxmahem_.  Problem solved.
[06:18] <maxmahem_> Hah! I solved a problem! Score one for me!
[06:18] <genii> !helpersnack | maxmahem_
[06:18] <maxmahem_> TraceRoute: Does the camera show up on lsusb when you plug it in?
[06:18] <genii> :)
[06:20] <sutin> Another question: My keyboard is in international, so characters like ´~¨^ get sucked up to make accents, in X or in console mode.  Any idea how to make that go away?
[06:20] <TraceRoute> maxmahem_ ill check in a second, im trying to delete this game off my R4 =/
[06:20] <maxmahem_> I think you can map your keyboard using xmodmap or somesuch, but thats a bit beyond me.
[06:23] <sutin> xmodmap is only for X Windows.  The effect persists even if I alt-cntl-F2 and try it on the console when X isn´t running.  I wouldn´t mind if I were French...
[06:25] <sutin> Oh, well.  It is bed time now, and I have go go get some SOUND sleep.  Yay!  Bye.
[06:25] <TraceRoute> maxmahem_ ah stupid me, Well i never had to do this before but when i connected my camera it was trying to connect to PictBridge instead of Mass Storage, but clicking mass storage on the camera did the trick
[06:26] <tweak> anyone know how to activate 3d acceleration?
[06:27] <maxmahem_> aw snap, I think I figured out what sutin needed to do, he should be able to pass his keyboard map to the kernal with loadkeys
[06:27] <tweak> my graphics card isn't installed properly and i don't know what to do
[06:27] <maxmahem_> TraceRoute: Cool deal.
[06:27] <tweak> my graphics card isn't installed properly and i don't know what to do. can anyone help?
[06:28] <maxmahem_> tweak: what version of kubuntu are you running and what graphics card?
[06:28] <tweak> using ubuntu 8.10
[06:28] <tweak> graphics card? no idea
[06:29] <maxmahem_> when you first boot up if there is a restricted driver for your card you should get a notification in your pannel on your lower right.
[06:29] <chrisrogers> howdy everybody
[06:29] <chrisrogers> anybody here?
[06:29] <maxmahem_> Failing that you can check in system\hardware drivers for it.
[06:30] <maxmahem_> from your menu.
[06:30] <tweak> it says no propriatary drivers installed
[06:31] <||arifaX> why is gwenview so slow when opening just 38mbyte file. system is nearly unresponsive then. any ideas?
[06:32] <se7enK> someone know how i get my wifi working
[06:32] <maxmahem_> tweak, you can try lspci from konsole, one of the entries should tell you your graphics card.
[06:32] <maxmahem_> ||arifaX: I have found gwenview to still be a bit buggy.
[06:32] <bdizzle> out of curiosity, does anyone have an issue with Kubuntu 8.10 and firefox suddenly closing without any warning
[06:33] <bdizzle> as if someone had hit kill process on it
[06:33] <||arifaX> bdizzle: is there a save replacement. lets say uninstall gwenview and install the other and works like a charm??
[06:33] <se7enK> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Unknown device 002a (rev 01)
[06:33] <tweak> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[06:33] <bdizzle> not a clue
[06:34] <bdizzle> I mostly use gwenview to view images, but nothing else with it
[06:34] <maxmahem_> Okay you have a Intel chip, those drivers are open source and should already be installed by default.
[06:35] <tweak> hm.
[06:35] <se7enK> someone konw how to get my wifi working ... 0b:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Unknown device 002a (rev 01)
[06:35] <tweak> i don't think it's working properly... when i try to run google earth it says my video card is not configured properly
[06:36] <maxmahem_> well no idea then, you have exahusted my scant knowledge base.
[06:36] <maxmahem_> And with that, I will quite while I am ahead on providing solutions. Night.
[06:37] <chrisrogers> hey can somebody remind me how to set emerald as the default window decorator in compiz fusion?
[06:39] <se7enK> someone konw how to get my wifi working ... 0b:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Unknown device 002a (rev 01)
[06:45] <anr78> I just logged into kde for the first time in weeks to see how 4.2 is coming along. A problem I have is that the notifications from kopete and the folder view window have a black background, although the rest of the theme is light. How can I change this?
[06:46] <se7enK> what driver do i need to get my atheros wifi working
[06:47] <mikorn> Having trouble with suspend to RAM. [ 4865.444121 ] iwlagn 0000:03_00.0: index 0 not used in uCode key  table.   is as far as it gets and freezes, there, never suspends. I have force the machine of and restart it.
[06:48] <PSiL0> hmm dolpin still slow even with nepomuk disabled
[06:48] <PSiL0> :-(
[06:50] <lgk> any1 available to help me with getting flash to work properly on konq?
[06:51] <lgk> i've tried using adept, downloading the .deb file, and sudo get-apt, no problems during install, just doesn't work..
[06:51] <lgk> i've rebooted, restarted konq, etc...
[06:54] <||arifaX> bdizzle: I installed kuickshow now. its faster.
[06:54] <bdizzle> um, okay?
[06:54] <lgk> :/
[06:55] <se7enK> lgk i just intalled kubuntu and the kubuntu-resticted-extras and flash works
[06:55] <lgk> i've reinstalled kubuntu 4 times
[06:55] <lgk> trying each differn't install method
[06:55] <lgk> each time, i've tried both konq and FF
[06:55] <lgk> i just get the typical "Either javascript is disabled or you don't have the latest flash" msg :/
[06:56] <lgk> i've checked java, defualt it's on obviously..
[06:56] <se7enK> well apt-get kubuntu-resticted-extras that helped with flash here
[06:56] <lgk> i ddin't do that :D brb
[06:59] <holycow> hey guys.  would anyone know if the lock/logout applet being oriented vertically or horizontally is a kde thing or an ubuntu thing?
[06:59] <holycow> i keep on noticing that in beta runs they are organized horizontally and just before release they get organized vertically
[07:00] <holycow> anyone know?
[07:02] <lgk> meh
[07:02] <lgk> didn't do anything se7en ;/
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[07:11] <se7enK> lol NooKia
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> yes you
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> yes you
[07:11] <NooKia> yes you
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <lgk>  /timer1 0 1 ASSHOLEs works wonders ;d
[07:11] <NooKia> yes you
[07:11] <NooKia> yes you
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <NooKia> yes you
[07:11] <se7enK> NooKia:
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <se7enK> NooKia:
[07:11] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:11] <se7enK> NooKia:
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <se7enK> NooKia:
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <lgk> rumad? lol
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <lgk> ysomad?
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <lgk> kids ;d
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <se7enK> !op
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:12] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <tweak> kick it!
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <lgk> this is the slowest, weakest spam i've ever seen
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <lgk> lol
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> yes you
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <lgk> !kick nookie ;D
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <tweak> hey +ops! /kick NooKia!
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <se7enK> he is getting tired
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:13] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <lgk> !kick nookia
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <lgk> !
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <se7enK> !op
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <lgk> !op
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <lgk> !~@~@
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <lgk> :D
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <tweak> help!
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <NooKia> yes you
[07:14] <se7enK> lol
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <se7enK> me?
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <KRF> no you
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:14] <se7enK> me?
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <lgk> you?
[07:15] <se7enK> me?
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <lgk> no me.
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <tweak> him?
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <lgk> what about her?
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <tweak> and it?
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <lgk> you got me
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <lgk> i got nothin
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <lgk> lol
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <tweak> :p
[07:15] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <se7enK> i feel like shit
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <lgk> too much liqourrrrr ?
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <NooKia> yes you
[07:15] <nickrud> crap
[07:16] <NooKia> yes you
[07:16] <NooKia> yes you
[07:16] <NooKia> yes you
[07:16] <lgk> mm time to open pack #2 for today
[07:16] <NooKia> yes you
[07:16] <NooKia> yes you
[07:16] <NooKia> yes you
[07:16] <NooKia> yes you
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <tweak>  /kick NooKia
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <NooKia> ASSHOLES
[07:16] <lgk> lol
[07:16] <PSiL0> !ops
[07:17] <lgk> !ops
[07:17] <lgk> !op
[07:17] <lgk> :D
[07:17] <lgk> PWN HIM STILL
[07:17] <se7enK> can someone please kick this motherfucker
[07:18] <NooKia> I BET ITS Hawkwind
[07:18] <NooKia> kiSS MY ASS
[07:18] <NooKia> CLOWN
[07:18] <NooKia> !kick LGK
[07:18] <NooKia> !WAREX
[07:18] <nickrud> this sucks a big one
[07:18] <NooKia> !GET SUB7.W32
[07:18] <NooKia> !GET SUB7.W32
[07:18] <NooKia> CLOWN
[07:18] <NooKia> CLOWN
[07:18] <NooKia> CLOWN
[07:18] <NooKia> CLOWN
[07:19] <NooKia> HACKER007
[07:19] <NooKia> TOO MUCH CRAAP
[07:19] <NooKia> nickrud: ARE YOU MENTAL ?
[07:19] <lgk> ....
[07:19] <NooKia> CLOWNS
[07:19] <se7enK> FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER NooKia
[07:19] <NooKia> 118.173.71.202
[07:19] <lgk> hawkwind ?
[07:19] <NooKia> THATS MY IP
[07:19] <NooKia> BRING IT ON
[07:19] <NooKia> ARENT AFRAID THAT YOUR BEING LOGGED ?
[07:19] <NooKia> EVRYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED AGAINDT YOU
[07:19] <lgk> 127.0.0.1 = mine ^^
[07:19] <NooKia> EVRYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU
[07:19] <NooKia> EVRYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU
[07:19] <NooKia> EVRYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU
[07:19] <NooKia> EVRYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU
[07:19] <NooKia> EVRYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU
[07:19] <nickrud> sorry, I couldn't find any ops with access
[07:20] <holycow> awesomely opped channel
[07:20] <se7enK> ;)
[07:20] <nickrud> well, it is only kde ;p
[07:22] <usuario> que rollo que asiendo
[07:22] <tweak> can anyone help me get my intel graphics card working properly?
[07:23] <usuario> alguien de tampcio o madero para  conversar  haha
[07:24] <holycow> tweak define the problem in here, maybe someone knows
[07:24] <tweak> basically it's only got minimal support and anything with 3d graphics won't work.. like google eath
[07:24] <tweak> earth*
[07:26] <holycow> well, if you have kwin effects google earth will suck
[07:26] <usuario_> QUE ASIENDO
[07:26] <holycow> you will need to disable kwin effects to run google earth
[07:26] <lgk> i needa find drivers for my onboard intel graphics
[07:26] <lgk> ;/
[07:26] <tweak> i have no idea if i have that or not....
[07:26] <holycow> you can test for this if blender runs fine but google earth doesnt
[07:26] <usuario_> NO le entiendo a estas mamadas
[07:26] <holycow> tweak system settings /desktop
[07:26] <usuario_> hahaha
[07:26] <holycow> !es
[07:26] <tweak> that's my problem too lgk!
[07:27] <daniel_rn> Anyone know how to add a new channel? a brasilian irc server?
[07:27] <lgk> if u figure it out lemme know! :D
[07:27] <holycow> you don't need to normally find drivers for intel
[07:27] <holycow> they are included
[07:27] <tweak> likewise!
[07:27] <holycow> it should work out of the box
[07:27] <lgk> i dont think so ;/ this shit's laggy, laggier then xp
[07:27] <lgk> the visuals n shit
[07:27] <holycow> tweak does blender work ?
[07:28] <tweak> holycow: I'll let u know after the package installs. :p
[07:28] <se7enK> is there a way to install gimp3
[07:29] <holycow> google for the package
[07:29] <holycow> otherwise you will haveto manually compile and if you have the time package it for your self
[07:29] <tweak> it's installing
[07:29] <lgk> i wish yahoo would just die.
[07:29] <usuario_> quiero sexo
[07:29] <tweak> salsa?
[07:29] <lgk> el gato negro en pantelones
[07:30] <tweak> no it doesn't work
[07:30] <tweak> can anyone help me? I have an intel graphics card and can't get it working properly
[07:31] <tweak> oops sorry wrong paste
[07:31] <holycow> tweak there must be something on the ubuntu forums you can google
[07:31] <se7enK> gimp 3 is in experimental is it save to intall from experimental?
[07:31] <tweak> Checking for installed Python... got it!X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)  Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)  Serial number of failed request:  12  Current serial number in output stream:  12
[07:31] <holycow> i'm a bit too tipsy to remember all the commands
[07:32] <holycow> tweak try strating up glx gears and tell me if that sturts
[07:32] <holycow> up
[07:32] <daniel_rn> portuguese?
[07:32] <holycow> i'm a little too tipsy to remember all the commands but you should be able to find some trouble shooting info in the forums
[07:32] <tweak> how?
[07:32] <holycow> also what intel chipset do you have?
[07:33] <holycow> just type in glxgears in the terminal
[07:33] <tweak> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[07:33] <tweak> what's the command to chek the name of the card again? -lstl?
[07:34] <holycow> i can't remember ... wine is too strong
[07:34] <holycow> lol
[07:34] <tweak> lmao
[07:34] <holycow> tweak well we verified that it isn't the kwin issue
[07:34] <holycow> so its weird that your intel chipset isn't supported
[07:34] <tweak> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[07:34] <holycow> brand new mobo?
[07:34] <tweak> lspci
[07:34] <holycow> right
[07:35] <holycow> google support on that
[07:35] <holycow> if its a new mobo you may be just a wee bit early
[07:35] <tweak> lspci support? no it's not brand new
[07:35] <holycow> intel has been refreshing their chipsets faster than distros have kept up in the last oh 12 months or so
[07:35] <tweak> hm
[07:35] <holycow> not brand new? weird, the drivers should be automatic
[07:35] <holycow> you know what?
[07:35] <holycow> it may be in the restriced drivers package then
[07:36] <holycow> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-8-generic
[07:36] <holycow> or whatever the version for your kernel is
[07:36] <holycow> try installing that then restarting x
[07:36] <holycow> then try ing to start up glx gears
[07:36] <NGL-Jabrroa> hello
[07:37] <tweak> how do I restart x
[07:37] <holycow> log out and log back in
[07:37] <tweak> k
[07:37] <NGL-Jabrroa> lol
[07:37] <NGL-Jabrroa> :)
[07:38] <holycow> or maybe he needs the inteli810 package if his mobo is very old
[07:38] <tweak> it's all onboard
[07:38] <PKodon> Hey, who's calling who an idiot?
[07:38] <tweak> video, sound, eth0
[07:38] <holycow> tweak, if the restricted package doesn't work please google yoru chipset and find out what package handles your chipset
[07:38] <holycow> i'm certain there is one in the repos that does
[07:38] <PKodon> Okay, perhaps I'm no longer connected here.
[07:38] <holycow> ither the i810 or these restricted onse
[07:39] <holycow> anyway install and restart x and try glx gears
[07:39] <holycow> if they come up  its working
[07:39] <tweak> ok.. 1 minute left o nthe install..
[07:40] <tweak> i hope it's for the right kernal?
[07:40] <holycow> uh
[07:40] <holycow> lol
[07:40] <holycow> dude sorry thought you knew how to do that
[07:40] <holycow> do uname -a
[07:40] <holycow> that will tell you the kernel
[07:41] <holycow> then you need to match the kernel to the restricted modules
[07:41] <NGL-Jabrroa> Goodnight everyone :) God bless
[07:41] <holycow> you can search for restricted modules with apt-cache search restricted-modules
[07:41] <tweak> 26279 generic
[07:41] <holycow> or something like that
[07:41] <holycow> i would MAKE SURE it matches yoru kernel number or else you aren't doing anything usefull at all
[07:42] <tweak> I'm doing it again...
[07:44] <tweak> k brb
[07:47] <lgk> inteli810 ??
[07:47] <holycow> i dont understand the question
[07:47] <lgk> i have a pretty old emachines, with the onboard intel graphics
[07:47] <lgk> you were saying inteli810could be for older mobos..
[07:47] <holycow> yes it could require that package
[07:47] <lgk> sudo apt-get install inteli810 ?
[07:48] <holycow> do lspci and find out what intel chipset you have
[07:48] <holycow> google it and find out
[07:48] <holycow> lgk: apt-cache search intel
[07:48] <holycow> and see whats all in there i don't remember exactly
[07:48] <lgk> 0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated GraphicsController (rev 02)
[07:48] <holycow> remember you want to google your chipset first on whatever version of ubuntu you have
[07:48] <lgk> google that ?
[07:48] <holycow> yeah try
[07:48] <holycow> and include your ubuntu version
[07:49] <holycow> usually you can find someone with relavent info
[07:49] <lgk> Intel Corporation 82865G Kubuntu 8.10
[07:49] <holycow> sounds good
[07:49] <holycow> go for it
[07:49] <tweak> nope glxgears doesn't work :(
[07:50] <holycow> tweal google your intel chipset plus your ubuntu version
[07:50] <holycow> someone must have the same combo and can tell you what version you need
[07:50] <NmLinuz> hi. I have a laptop but i want to use only my VGA external monitor. How can i set xorg.conf for that??? :S
[07:50] <holycow> i'm 99% certain the drivers are in ther epo
[07:50] <tweak> my chipset is the same as lgk lol
[07:50] <holycow> i've never run into intel chipsets that didn't work
[07:50] <lgk> hey
[07:51] <lgk> how do i access xorg.conf ? :D
[07:51] <lgk> sorry nvm
[07:51] <lgk> ill goggle
[07:51] <lgk> google*
[07:51] <holycow> emacs /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:51] <holycow> oh heh sorry
[07:51] <holycow> noobs
[07:51] <holycow> forget emacs
[07:52] <NmLinuz> i know where is xorg.conf. But i don't know what i have to change on it :S
[07:52] <lgk> nm linuz
[07:52] <holycow> do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:52] <lgk> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097997
[07:52] <peterz> anybody else have plasma instant crash on them since 4.2-rc1>
[07:52] <holycow> or gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:53] <peterz> surely you can suggest a kde editor :-)
[07:53] <peterz> kate or somesuch
[07:53] <lgk> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:53] <holycow> oh hehe
[07:53] <holycow> we are in THAT channel
[07:53] <holycow> hehe
[07:53] <holycow> right
[07:53] <lgk> lol
[07:53] <holycow> i'm drunk, cut me slack :)
[07:53] <p_quarles> lgk: kdesudo kate
[07:53] <lgk> im stond :D
[07:53] <tweak> i found nothing useful
[07:54] <tweak> lgk! we're goth baked, and have the same stupid chipset
[07:54] <lgk> LoL
[07:54] <tweak> wtf?
[07:54] <lgk> tweak
[07:54] <lgk> did you see the url i sent
[07:54] <lgk> ?
[07:54] <tweak> yes
[07:54] <tweak> I'm using Ubuntu
[07:54] <tweak> 8.10
[07:54] <lgk> ~
[07:55] <NmLinuz> i have installed KDE 4.2 RC packages and now i have problems. How can i remove this packages??
[07:55] <tweak> place a magnet to you hdd
[07:56] <tweak> nmlinuz : did you apt-get install them?
[07:56] <NmLinuz> tweak no
[07:56] <NmLinuz> from kubuntu site
[07:56] <NmLinuz> add repository etc
[07:56] <NmLinuz> and then update
[07:56] <tweak> o
[07:57] <stefano> !list
[07:57] <holycow> NmLinuz: i "THINK" you can use aptitude to uninstall everything that came with the metapackage
[07:57] <holycow> apt just uninstalls the metapackage but leaves all the dps there
[07:58] <holycow> the other method is
[07:58] <holycow> remove the new repo from apt sources and update your apt just to clear out the entries in the database
[07:58] <holycow> then
[07:58] <holycow> you need to find a key kde library or two
[07:58] <holycow> if you uninstall that it will unisntall the rest of kde
[07:58] <tweak> <--- is still stuck stupid intil...
[07:59] <holycow> once you have uninstalled all of kde you can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop and you should be fine
[07:59] <tweak> intel*
[07:59] <holycow> youmight wnat to install another desktop environment during uninstall if you are not comfy with command line so that you can use your desktop while it unisntalls
[07:59] <holycow> try something like e16 maybe ... or i don't know if that works any more
[08:00] <holycow> once done get back into kde session and you are done
[08:00] <tweak> i must have unlucky chipset disease
[08:01] <holycow> tweak there must be somethign on google
[08:01] <holycow> nothign?
[08:01] <tweak> ? nothing useful
[08:01] <holycow> impossible
[08:02] <tweak> ?
[08:02] <holycow> i've never seen an intel chipset not work
[08:02] <holycow> are you sure yours had 3d acceleration?
[08:02] <tweak> maybe It's there but I'm not finding it
[08:03] <tweak> pretty sure yes. it runs googleearth fine in windows xp, just not in linuix
[08:03] <holycow> intersting
[08:03] <holycow> sorry i can't be of more help
[08:03] <tweak> not ur fault
[08:03] <tweak> thank you
[08:05] <tweak> just seems a shame to leave xp installed for one program lmao
[08:05] <holycow> if youdon't solve it today i can maybe help tomorrow
[08:05] <holycow> yeah i'm sure it can be helped for sure
[08:05] <holycow> how do you like linux so far?
[08:05] <tweak> i've been workin on it for hours lol
[08:06] <tweak> Oh I love linux
[08:06] <tweak> Used to use Gentoox on my Xbox
[08:06] <holycow> ahhh, not exactly a noob
[08:06] <holycow> sweet
[08:06] <tweak> :p
[08:06] <tweak> close enough lol
[08:07] <tweak> gentoox was KDE
[08:08] <tweak> i actually got wine running really nice in gentoox lol
[08:08] <holycow> nice
[08:08] <tweak> took forever to compile on a 733mhz xbox though
[08:08] <tweak> haha
[08:08] <holycow> heh
[08:08] <holycow> doable
[08:09] <lgk> i <3 linux
[08:09] <lgk> but hate how i can't get flash to work
[08:09] <lgk> for browsers
[08:09] <lgk> or java applets
[08:09] <tweak> mine work
[08:09] <lgk> but java programs work fine..
[08:09] <peterz> lgk: that's a pro, not a con ;-)
[08:09] <lgk> screw yew!
[08:10] <lgk> lol peter
[08:10] <holycow> hehehe
[08:10] <holycow> lgk: 64 bit?
[08:10] <lgk> there are a couple java applets i use for some stuff.
[08:10] <lgk> nah
[08:10] <tweak> you have to install flash through add/remove
[08:10] <lgk> 86
[08:10] <tweak> 68
[08:10] <lgk> add/remove?
[08:10] <lgk> adept ?
[08:10] <holycow> apt-cache search flash nonfree
[08:10] <holycow> install the nonfree one
[08:10] <lgk> i've done it through sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[08:10] <holycow> it will workfine
[08:11] <holycow> oh
[08:11] <tweak> that's what i'm using
[08:11] <lgk> ive done it through adept for konq/ns upgrades
[08:11] <holycow> it doesn't work?
[08:11] <lgk> ive done it by downloading the .deb file
[08:11] <lgk> and installing
[08:11] <holycow> does it work with firefox?
[08:11] <lgk> none have worked
[08:11] <lgk> nope.
[08:11] <holycow> wow
[08:11] <holycow> you guys are kicking my ass today
[08:11] <lgk> i've formated and reinstalled kubuntu 3 times
[08:11] <lgk> fresh installs
[08:11] <holycow> wow
[08:11] <lgk> each time i tried a differn't flash install method
[08:11] <lgk> maybe my burnt cd is bunk?
[08:11] <lgk> lol
[08:11] <holycow> well you can download the .tar.gz from adobe
[08:11] <holycow> extract it
[08:12] <holycow> and put the .so manually in the /usr/lib/filrefox/plugins i think
[08:12] <holycow> it should work
[08:12] <holycow> it sounds like its not symlinking properly
[08:12] <tweak> if it's a live cd you can check it's integrity by booting it up
[08:12] <lgk> live cd?
[08:12] <tweak> your install CD
[08:12] <holycow> yeah if it gets to a desktop to let you install
[08:12] <holycow> then its a live cd
[08:12] <lgk> holy,. extract the files into a directory, then manually mvoe them to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ ?
[08:13] <lgk> it's live then
[08:13] <lgk> :D
[08:13] <holycow> how do you check the disk for corruption again? i forget
[08:13] <lgk> rofl this bitch got pulled over for using her phone while driving, her excuse was 'i didn't think texting was aprt of that law'
[08:13] <tweak> if the integrity was dammaged though it wouldn't have finished installing
[08:14] <tweak> when you boot from the live CD it's an option right away
[08:14] <lgk> yah
[08:14] <lgk> i checked my memory
[08:14] <lgk> the cd for defects
[08:14] <lgk> all passed
[08:14] <holycow> huh
[08:14] <lgk> my buddy
[08:14] <lgk> who convinced me to get linux
[08:14] <holycow> try extracting the tar.gz manually
[08:14] <lgk> is so effin confused
[08:14] <lgk> imma try that right now brb :D
[08:14] <tweak> somehow.....it's Bill Gates' Fault
[08:14] <holycow> and copying the .so file to the location i posted above
[08:14] <holycow> that should work
[08:14] <lgk> jsut the .so
[08:14] <lgk> ?
[08:14] <holycow> thats it
[08:15] <lgk> what about for konq, i don't have ff installed on this install,
[08:15] <tweak> gates needs another pie!
[08:15] <lgk> LOL
[08:15] <tweak> or maybe a shoe thrown at him
[08:15] <tweak> hehe
[08:16] <lgk> ballon filled with freshly poured jello mix
[08:16] <lgk> blueberry jello
[08:16] <tweak> balloon filled with milk eggs and vinegar!
[08:16] <lgk> crap..
[08:17] <lgk> now all flash embedded files are just blank boxes...
[08:17] <tweak> it'll save you bandwidth!
[08:17] <lgk> lol
[08:17] <lgk> time for another bowl
[08:17] <tweak> thank it
[08:18] <tweak> pick it, pack it, fire it up come along.. and take a hit from the bong
[08:18] <holycow> lgk: restart firefox?
[08:18] <holycow> you can remove the .so to get rid of that problem
[08:19] <tweak> uninstall firefox and re-install using synaptic?
[08:19] <holycow> no no
[08:19] <holycow> just delete the .so he put in that plugin folder
[08:20] <tweak> olaf!
[08:20] <tweak> here's the strange part
[08:21] <lgk> well
[08:21] <lgk> here's the thing
[08:21] <lgk> i haven't done anything
[08:21] <lgk> i was opening konq
[08:21] <lgk> to a youtube page to get the link to the flash download
[08:21] <tweak> initially when i installed google earth it ran but the graphics were cutting in and out and then it would fail. after playing with xorg.conf it won't even start now. I've reverted to default settings but still same thing
[08:21] <lgk> and now all flash is blank ;d
[08:22] <eagles0513875> !enter | lgk
[08:22] <holycow> lgk: uh what?
[08:22] <holycow> i told you to dwonload it from adobe.com
[08:22]  * tweak worships the holdcow
[08:22]  * tweak worships the holycow
[08:22] <lgk> lol
[08:22] <holycow> just go there with firefox and download the .tar.gz manually
[08:22] <holycow> boobtube knows dick
[08:23] <holycow> :)
[08:23] <lgk> holy, when you dont have flash installed, a flash object will have a direct link to the download...
[08:23] <lgk> thats what i was referring to why i went there :D
[08:23] <holycow> yeah not always
[08:23] <tweak> sometimes hitting it works
[08:23] <holycow> thats brand new in the latest releaes
[08:23] <lgk> mk, download tar.gz
[08:23] <holycow> it installs the flash in your ~/.firefox/plugins dir
[08:24] <holycow> you can actually put the .so in there
[08:24]  * tweak holds off the hoards of people trying to remove the prime rib from holycow
[08:24] <holycow> it will then only work for your account ... /usr/lib/firefox..whatever/plugins/  is for all the users on your system
[08:24] <eagles0513875> tweak: thats off topic btw
[08:25] <holycow> tweak, we have world class anal ops here
[08:25] <holycow> you will get in trouble if you so  much as get a syllable off topic
[08:25] <holycow> not kidding
[08:25] <holycow> but you know
[08:25] <tweak>  /apologize
[08:25] <holycow> when we have spammers for an hour
[08:25] <holycow> they won't do jack
[08:25] <lgk> i like to
[08:25] <eagles0513875> im not an im im just watching ur back side
[08:25] <lgk> use one liners
[08:25] <lgk> also for my speech
[08:25] <lgk> enter key
[08:25] <lgk> is my best friend ;d
[08:26] <eagles0513875> holycow:  that is y u do ! op it alerts any and all ops
[08:26] <eagles0513875> lgk: they dont like it in here
[08:26] <lgk> seems like only you dont :(
[08:26] <tweak> :(
[08:26] <tweak> lgk any luck on the chipset?
[08:27] <lgk> hell na
[08:27] <lgk> :/
[08:27] <tweak> i hear ya
[08:27] <tweak> it's like the rarest chipset ever or something
[08:27] <lgk> hahaha
[08:27] <lgk> and it's onboard, sad part
[08:27] <lgk> ;/
[08:27] <lgk> is yours pretty old?
[08:27] <tweak> yup totally
[08:27] <lgk> this box is an old ass emachines lol
[08:27] <holycow> oh that old
[08:27] <tweak> ? dunno... 3.02ghz processor
[08:28] <holycow> you may need an older driver than the i810 ... but maybre not
[08:28] <lgk> this is 2.5ghz, 512mb
[08:28] <eagles0513875> what chipset lgk
[08:28] <holycow> oh thats not bad
[08:28] <lgk> sec..
[08:28] <lgk> what was that cmd holycow
[08:28] <lgk> lcpis
[08:28] <lgk> ?
[08:28] <eagles0513875> lspci
[08:28] <tweak> 3.02ghz 1GB here
[08:28] <tweak> thinking bout upgrading to dual core
[08:28] <lgk> Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated GraphicsController (rev 02)
[08:28] <tweak> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[08:28] <lgk> i got a 2.6 athlon x2 dualcore
[08:28] <lgk> soooo fuckin nice
[08:29] <lgk> :D
[08:29] <tweak> that line is almost a swear i've searched it so much
[08:29] <lgk> goign from single core 512mb to dual core 4gb is z0mg!~
[08:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:29] <tweak> how hot can a processor get before it fries?
[08:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:30] <eagles0513875> went from single core athlon 64 2ghz 3200+ to an intel core 2 quad q9550 2.83ghz with 12mb l2 cache and 8gb of ram lol
[08:30] <tweak> hey i think i have a c64 300baud modem kicking around somewhere
[08:30] <tweak> lol
[08:31] <lgk> i need a motorola surfboard cable modem
[08:31] <lgk> got onE?
[08:31] <lgk> ~ :D
[08:31] <tweak> RCA here
[08:31] <lgk> i borrowed my girls moms when her comp took a dump, i plugged it into our cable outlet for shits n giggles, we got highspeed cable :D
[08:31] <lgk> free~
[08:32] <lgk> old building, i think the cable system is ran throughout
[08:32] <eagles0513875> wtf
[08:32] <eagles0513875> u lucky bastard
[08:32] <lgk> very
[08:32] <lgk> just need the modem
[08:32] <lgk> had to give it back D
[08:32] <lgk> im back on piggybacked wireless
[08:32] <eagles0513875> darn
[08:32] <eagles0513875> what was the download and upload speeds
[08:32] <tweak> i know how to fix our chipset issue
[08:32] <lgk> typical comcasy for my area, i was upwards of 2mb downs from m$ site (i live in wa state)
[08:32] <lgk> didn't test out up
[08:33] <lgk> typical down off torrents was 200-400k sec
[08:33] <tweak> i get 600 sometimes
[08:33] <lgk> i jus too lazy to sace $20 for a modem ;d bud sacks more important
[08:33] <lgk> save*
[08:33] <eagles0513875> damn im on bout a 6mbps down and 1.5 up on comcast back in houston
[08:34] <lgk> i've never had any file down at 6mb :D
[08:34]  * tweak gags
[08:34] <eagles0513875> lol im here on an island in the mediterranean in europe and i have 10mbps down and 512 up
[08:34] <eagles0513875> and 80gb monthly download
[08:34] <lgk> your limited?
[08:34]  * tweak is in Canada
[08:34] <holycow> eagles0513875: do you mind me asking where?
[08:34] <lgk> wtf
[08:34] <eagles0513875> island of malta
[08:34] <lgk> eagles do you get 10mbs download speedS?
[08:34] <tweak> it's -30 outside!
[08:35] <holycow> malta? nice
[08:35] <eagles0513875> ya lgk im hopping that my webhosting business with time will branch off into another cable isp since there is only 1 cable isp
[08:35] <eagles0513875> just about lgk
[08:35] <eagles0513875> holycow:  its 60 miles south of scicily
[08:35] <bazhang> lgk, watch the language
[08:35] <holycow> eagles0513875: awesome :)
[08:35] <lgk> ...?
[08:35] <holycow> hehe
[08:35] <lgk> language?
[08:35] <bazhang> !wtf | lgk
[08:35] <tweak> bad boy
[08:35] <lgk> wtf = what the fudge! duh! :D lol
[08:35] <lgk> sorry
[08:35] <lgk> ;d
[08:36] <holycow> ah here we go
[08:36] <bazhang> !enter | lgk
[08:36] <eagles0513875> come into offtopic
[08:36] <tweak> so to fix our chipset issue.....
[08:36] <lgk> !blow me | bazhang
[08:36] <bazhang> !ops | lgk
[08:36] <lgk> OH NOES
[08:36] <tweak> we just need to buy a new videocard
[08:36] <lgk> ban me.
[08:36] <lgk> lol
[08:36] <lgk> true tweak
[08:36] <holycow> heh
[08:36] <holycow> right on dude, i do the same
[08:36] <lgk> i needa find a decent slimprofile for my dual core setup
[08:37] <eagles0513875> lgk:  you dont wanna mess around with ops
[08:37] <holycow> no one caares about ops
[08:37] <tweak> they can make you dissappear
[08:37] <holycow> being banned from here is not a threat of any kind
[08:37] <lgk> lol seriously ;d
[08:37] <tweak> lol
[08:38] <lgk> if i get banned im not gonna /wrist or anythign ;/
[08:38] <lgk> mybe shed a tear, MAYUBE
[08:38] <holycow> lol
[08:38] <holycow> dude just msg me if you are banned i'll help
[08:38] <holycow> by then i'll be banned too
[08:38] <lgk> lol
[08:38] <tweak> along with me]
[08:38] <eagles0513875> its super hard to get unbanned
[08:38] <lgk> there's too many workarounds to get back in...
[08:38] <eagles0513875> been trying to get myselff unbanned from motu and dev irc channels
[08:38] <holycow> who cares
[08:38] <lgk> but is it worth the 5 seconds to get around the ban? no :D
[08:38] <eagles0513875> not in relation to ubuntu channels
[08:38] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you've been told not to discuss your bans in here
[08:39] <lgk> OFFTOPIC!
[08:39] <ikonia> eagles0513875: this is why you are banned as you cannot follow simple instructions
[08:39] <lgk> BAN PLZ
[08:39] <tweak> hahaha
[08:39] <lgk> !ops | OFFTOPIC DISCUSSION
[08:39] <holycow> no discuss them
[08:39] <ikonia> lgk: thats not needed
[08:39] <ikonia> lgk: stop that
[08:39] <lgk> ...
[08:39] <lgk> is this channel really this lame?
[08:39] <holycow> no one can stop you from discussing your bans
[08:39] <ikonia> lgk: if you don't like it - leave
[08:39] <holycow> yoru bans are your right to discuss all you want
[08:39] <holycow> ignore them
[08:39] <lgk> are you apart of saftey patrol ikonia?
[08:39] <lgk> LoL
[08:40] <tweak> man
[08:40] <tweak> worse than disney
[08:40] <bazhang> lgk, stop
[08:40] <lgk> wtf is up with you people
[08:40] <lgk> seriously tweak
[08:40] <lgk> lol
[08:40] <lgk> BUKLE UP
[08:40] <lgk> SAFTEY PATROL
[08:40] <lgk> BEWARE
[08:40] <Eutychus> hello room. where can i find the md5 hash check for  kubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso? i looked on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes but didnt fint it.
[08:40] <lgk> OH NOES
[08:40] <lgk> I DONT KNOW BETTER
[08:40] <lgk> PLZ TEACH MEZ
[08:40] <eagles0513875> perm ban is on the way
[08:40] <eagles0513875> hi ikonia
[08:41] <ikonia> eagles0513875: hello
[08:41] <tweak> i've been trying to figure out this stupid intel chipset all darn day
[08:42] <eagles0513875> i tried to warn him
[08:42] <eagles0513875> idiot didnt listen
[08:42] <ikonia> eagles0513875: please leave it
[08:42] <eagles0513875> O_o
[08:43] <tweak> i just want to run google earth that's all
[08:43] <eagles0513875> !google earth
[08:43] <holycow> ikonia: i can guarantee you one thing
[08:43] <holycow> you and all the other ops
[08:43] <eagles0513875> tweak: purge what you already have
[08:44] <tweak> how do you mean?
[08:44] <antiquark> Does Akonadi actually work? Or are the Kubuntu packages broken?
[08:44] <tweak> sudo apt-get remove googlearth?
[08:46] <tweak> eagles?
[08:46] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get purge google earth or how ever its spelled
[08:46] <eagles0513875> !info google earth
[08:47] <eagles0513875> !info googleearth
[08:47] <eagles0513875> tweakedeh: did u install it form source
[08:47] <totallystumped> googleearth4.3
[08:47] <bazhang> !googleearth
[08:47] <totallystumped> no from binary
[08:47] <kishore> are there any planned updates to the koffice2 beta packages?
[08:48] <kishore> or do i have to build from source to try it?
[08:48] <ubuntu> hello?
[08:49] <totallystumped> hello
[08:49] <totallystumped> GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[08:50] <nomingo> lol i just installed this thing :P
[08:50] <totallystumped> which thing?
[08:50] <nomingo> kubuntu
[08:50] <nomingo> neat toy so far
[08:50] <Eutychus> hello... where can i find the md5 hash check for  kubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso? i looked on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes but didnt fint it.
[08:51] <eagles0513875> !md5
[08:51] <eagles0513875> Eutychus: is that what you are looking for
[08:51] <nomingo> oh this is a place for questions?
[08:51] <totallystumped> will someone install google earth to verify that it runs properly in ubuntu?
[08:51] <eagles0513875> nomingo: yes
[08:51] <eagles0513875> !ask | nomingo
[08:52] <Eutychus> i dled kubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso and i cant find the md5 hash to verify it.
[08:53] <Eutychus> i meant the md5 sum on the website.
[08:53] <nomingo> !ask how do i get my ov511 webcam working?
[08:55] <eagles0513875> nomingo: just ask your question in here and if anyone knows the answer they will help
[08:55] <ian_> Morning, I'm still having problems with kde 4.2 RC and kwin, has anyone else experianced or heard of problems with this release?
[08:55] <nomingo> how do i get and verify if my "ov511" webcam is working?
[08:56] <p_quarles> Eutychus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.10/release/MD5SUMS
[08:56] <p_quarles> Eutychus: hint: I only googled the name of the .iso you mentioned ;)
[08:56] <Eutychus> p_quarles, thank you,.
[08:57] <ian_> nomingo: is that from an eeepc by any chance?
[08:58] <nomingo> nope, its a relatively old but good webcam, d-link c100 and supposedly its driver is based on ov511 in linux according to various internet things
[08:59] <ian_> nomingo: fair enough, just thought i reconised it..
[09:02] <ian_> Can anyone help with some problems i'm having with kde 4.2 rc from the kubuntu-experimental repositories? or point me towards someone who can
[09:03] <nomingo> this is as far as i got... http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=470
[09:05] <Ace2016_-> Hi all
[09:05] <Ace2016_-> where is kde4 installed to?
[09:13] <noname> hello. how to add a user to sudoers file?
[09:13] <ruhaan_jslip> is there a way to connect to a wifi network via terminal?
[09:13] <ian_> Guest6596: i would have thought the best way is to add them to the admin group:
[09:14] <ian_> Guest6596: sudo adduser $USER admiin
[09:14] <ian_> *admin even
[09:15] <Ace2016_-> ian_: doesn't sudo use the wheel group?
[09:16] <Guest6596> ian_: permission denied :S
[09:17] <ian_> Ace2016_-: i've always used the admin group - seems to work for me
[09:17] <ian_> Guest6596: are you in the sudo group?
[09:18] <Guest6596> ian_: i dont think so
[09:18] <Guest6596> i simply add a new user to my distro
[09:18] <Ace2016_-> Guest6596: you need to use the command with a user that can already use sudo
[09:18] <Guest6596> to get default settings etc
[09:20] <Ace2016_-> run the command as the old user
[09:20] <Guest6596> Ace2016_-: how to do that? sudo -u <old_u> ?
[09:21] <Ace2016_-> su oldusername, then use the old users password, then use sudo
[09:21] <Guest6596> ok i do that
[09:21] <Guest6596> so
[09:22] <Guest6596> in the sudoers.tmp
[09:22] <Guest6596> where i have to add my username?
[09:24] <Ace2016_-> add yourself to the admin group
[09:25] <Guest6596> $username ALL=(ALL) ALL    ?
[09:26] <Ace2016_-> yea
[09:26] <Ace2016_-> but change $username to your username
[09:26] <Guest6596> yes
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:32] <eagles0513875> hi yo yo yo ActionParsnip
[09:35] <eagles0513875> im running into a really weird issue when vncing into my linux laptop
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: whats going on?
[09:37] <eagles0513875> im using the real vnc viewer to connect using krfb on kde 4.2 rc1
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> ok
[09:37] <eagles0513875> the colors are ok but when i star moving around they turn relaly bright yellow and pink and what not and its super jittery
[09:37] <eagles0513875> the text and what not is all blurry too
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: is it over Lan or wan/
[09:38] <eagles0513875> lan
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you could try disabling compression
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> and make the vncserver poll the whole screen
[09:38] <kiefer> Is this the place to report bugs found when testing KDE 4.2?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> !bugs | kiefer
[09:39] <eagles0513875> kiefer: ask in kde channel they can link you cuz i dont remember the link off the top of my head
[09:39] <JohnFlux> bugs.kde.org
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> kiefer: there may be one for kde 4.2, I'd ask in #kde
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> there you go
[09:40] <JohnFlux> Or  Help->Report Bug   in every KDE program
[09:40] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: the funny thing is bandwith isnt the issue its something else and i have vnc viewer set to use full colors
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: what about compression?
[09:40] <kiefer> ok, thanks
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i think its a setting on the client rather than the server
[09:41] <nomingo> question, i'm watching video just fine in regular view, but whenever flashplayer goes fullscreen, the video gets realy slow even though the sounds is fine, its like watching a slideshow. any ideas?
[09:41] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: doesnt look like there is any
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: of course there is
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: is it the windows vnc client?
[09:41] <eagles0513875> yes it is
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> and what client is it?
[09:42] <eagles0513875> its the vnc viewer free edition from real vnc
[09:43] <eagles0513875> im using krfb on my linux laptop and connecting to it from a windows machine
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: here are the options for realvnc
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/man/vncviewer.html
[09:44] <eagles0513875> do i need it on linux if im using krfb as the vnc server
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> its for the client, the server takes the settings that the client is using
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> you could also try another client like tightvnc maybe (also free) see if it acts the same
[09:45] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:45] <Tomatejc> I'm sorry, my english is very bad but #kubuntu-es is alone. I have Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3.5. Kernel: 2.6.24-23-generic. I have a very annoy problem with sound. This problem appears when I upgrade kernel from 2.6.24-19 to 2.6.24-21. I did solve the problem with this blog: http://kkubasik.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/sound-problems-in-ubuntu-hardy/ but when I upgrade kernel to 2.6.24-23 this problem appears again and I can't solve it with that. Anyone
[09:45] <Tomatejc>  can give me an advice?
[09:45] <Tomatejc> I'm sorry again, my english is really really bad, I can read it, but writing it... well, you saw it ;)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: are you using hardy or intrepid (lsb_release -a | grep -i code will tell you)
[09:47] <Tomatejc> Ace2016_-: Hardy
[09:47] <Tomatejc> 8.04
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !sound | Tomatejc
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: try that and head back if you have no joy
[09:48] <Tomatejc> "Activar el sistema de sonido" (enable the sound system) is ok
[09:48] <Tomatejc> going to link
[09:50] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: same issue with tight vnc
[09:50] <Tomatejc> first ok, second ok
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: well now we know its your servers settings
[09:51] <Tomatejc> in Kubuntu is "/lib/modules/" ?
[09:51] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: server setting on what krfb
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !info krftb
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !info krfb
[09:52] <eagles0513875> and yes it does btw the bot is wrong
[09:52] <eagles0513875> but i dont have many options to change with it
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332705
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: what sound device does lspci say you have?
[09:53] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: lspci ?
[09:53] <eagles0513875> that explains alot lol
[09:53] <eagles0513875> !vnc
[09:53] <eagles0513875> !freenx
[09:54] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: it's big, wait a moment please
[09:54] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d6059a384
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: ok so its an Intel Corporation 82801EB
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: go forth and websearch how to set it up, intel stuff is pretty supported
[09:56] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: thank you, I'll try first install modules, I didn't with 2.6.24-23, maybe that's it
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: looks like the sound card doesnt like your kernel (if the numbers match) http://tehpost.blogspot.com/2008/07/ubuntu-no-sound-using-intel-corporation.html
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: looks like you may have to compile alsa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=542259
[09:59] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: I tried that (compile alsa), works first time (2.6.24.19 to 2.24.21), but didn't now (2.6.24.21 to 2.6.24.23)
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Tomatejc: you will need to recompile it for the new kernel ( i think )
[10:01] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: I did it, but doesn't work =(
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> hmm, id sit on the old kernel for now. If the older kernel serves you well theres no real need to upgrade
[10:02] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: maybe that is the solution, back to 21
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> and then try find some help for your sound card with that kernel. Does Intrepid not work for you?
[10:02] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: I don't like KDE 4.1, doesn't work fine with my nVidia FX5200
[10:03] <MinusSeven> just got on, are you talking about the problem of only one program being able to use sound at a time?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> i seee
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> MinusSeven: no, its no sound in a particular hardy kernel
[10:03] <Tomatejc> MinusSeven: no, all Kubuntu
[10:03] <MinusSeven> ok
[10:03] <MinusSeven> I had a problem with only one program at a time being able to use sound
[10:03] <MinusSeven> but works fine in Ubuntu
[10:04] <Eutychus> hello again. i am not very good at this. i have dled kubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso onto my hd. i have checked it with md 5 and the hash numbers check. when i try to burn it as a dvd no matter if it is nero, infrarecorder or deepburner the finished product is the ubuntu  8.10 cd disk. 4gigs dl but only 780 megs burn. does anyone know what i am doing wrong?
[10:04] <Eutychus> i am wasting dvds
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: did you md5 check the image before burning?
[10:05] <Eutychus> yes
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> what speed did you burn at?
[10:05] <MinusSeven> another thing I found weird was, in the clock settings, I put in an ntp server, and it couldn't contact it
[10:05] <Eutychus> it burns at about 4-5x
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: thats ok, can it go slower?
[10:05] <Eutychus> i think so.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: are you burning the image with a windows operating system?
[10:06] <Eutychus> yes
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: its not an ubuntu problem
[10:06] <Eutychus> :(
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: its a windows issue, head over to ##windows
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> your windows OS is having issues burning an ISOfile
[10:07] <Eutychus> do i tell them the same thing that i told you?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: its great you md5 checked it though, most people dont then moan when the installer fails
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: yes, the 780Mb of 4Gb burned is exactly what they need to know
[10:08] <Eutychus> thanx actionparsnip... i am changing the window to windows.
[10:09] <Eutychus> i really like kubuntu btw.
[10:09] <MinusSeven> it doesn't have a self checker like some distros have
[10:09] <MinusSeven> I think eventually kubuntu will have to be bigger than what fits on a cd
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> MinusSeven: I thought there was a verify cd on the first boot screen of kubuntu (before going to desktop)
[10:10] <MinusSeven> could be
[10:11] <MinusSeven> what about my problem of putting in an NTP server address in the clock settings, and it says it can't connect to it?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> people need to md5 too, many dont
[10:11] <MinusSeven> I thought it could be a firewall problem, but its outgoing
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> MinusSeven: can you telnet to the servers port?
[10:11] <MinusSeven> haven't tried
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> MinusSeven: worth a crack
[10:11] <MinusSeven> what if I try and it doesn't work?
[10:12] <MinusSeven> I shouldn't need to enable any incoming ports should I?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> MinusSeven: i dunno if ntp will connect with telnet but its worth a shot
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> MinusSeven: well the request for time goes into the ntp
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> so i'd imagine so
[10:13] <MinusSeven> i'll go try some things
[10:13] <MinusSeven> be back later
[10:13] <cuznt> i know how to md5 check in windows
[10:13] <cuznt> how do you md5 check in kde?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[10:14] <cuznt> ty
[10:14] <Tomatejc> ActionParsnip: well, I can't solve it
[10:14] <Tomatejc> thanks a lot anyway
[10:26] <Eutychus> reHello. the windows guys say that the iso is inflated. when i checked the iso with winrar their was only 480k of info stored in the iso even though windows sez that the iso is taking up 4 gigs on the hd. i must be doing something wrong or am not smart enough to figure it out. how do i get a dvd of kubuntu?
[10:27] <fildo> was hardy before ibex?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> fildo: yes
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !hardy
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> fildo: its easy to work out, hardy is 8.04, released on 4th month 08
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> fildo: intrepid is 8.10, released on 10th moth 08
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> *month
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: where are you getting the iso from?
[10:30] <fildo> ActionParsnip: thnx. nah i have ibex and hardy. i just grabbed  the wrong cd when i installed . lol
[10:30] <fildo> all good .
[10:31] <Eutychus> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/intrepid/release/dvd/kubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: good choice
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: i'd try the http method, just to test
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: torrents assign the space then populate the empty file with data which is consistant with what the windows guys are on about
[10:33] <Eutychus> someone mentioned that i should try imgburn and see if that will work.
[10:34] <Eutychus> ic. i was putting ubuntu on my friends laptop and really messed it up when trying to convert ubuntu to kubuntu.
[10:34] <faileas> >_>
[10:35] <Eutychus> that is why i would rather just have the dvd.
[10:35] <faileas> Eutychus: the difference between the two is a single metapackage
[10:35] <faileas> you can probably find a guide to snip out the bits you don't need
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Eutychus: try downloading via ftp / http instead of torrents, it may give you a better image
[10:35] <SlimeyPete> you should have been able to just do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:35] <Eutychus> k.
[10:36] <faileas> ActionParsnip: that seems wierd, torrents do check the file automatically
[10:36] <faileas> (what's the issue again? ;p)
[10:36] <ksa-24> Hello
[10:36] <cortney> anyone know if it's possible to enable kde desktop effects in a virtualbox install of kubuntu in windows vista? (uhh.. ya..)
[10:37] <ikonia> cortney: no
[10:37] <cortney> compiz won't work either?
[10:37] <ikonia> cortney: there is no direct access to the video hardware
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> faileas: its burning about 800Mb then stopping, winrar shows the data in the iso as less
[10:37] <faileas> cortney: IIRC at the moment virtualbox dosen't support opengl, which is what both kwin's compositing engine and compiz needs
[10:37] <faileas> checked the md5 sum?
[10:38] <cortney> uhh, it says it supports opengl
[10:38] <cortney> little box "enable opengl support"
[10:38] <faileas> cortney: it uses opengl to wrap dx IIRC
[10:38]  * Eutychus will try dling from http
[10:38] <faileas> but the guests don't support it
[10:38] <faileas> either that or it was windows only
[10:39] <cortney> *cough* direct rendering: Yes
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> cortney: you could always ask in #vbox, maybe they know a thing or 3
[10:40] <faileas> its been a while since i used it
[10:40] <cortney> this could be really cool ;)
[10:40] <faileas> *but* i'm quite sure its in the manual that it dosen't work
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> cortney: or just try it, see what you get
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> cortney: you can always uninstall it
[10:40] <faileas> (i was running it on a windows box. bloody thing kept crashing, well more than usual)
[10:41] <cortney> already going to, after I update to rc4.2... this isn't my comp.. i'm setting it up obviously for some numbskull girl ;)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> cortney: i doubt they'll need compiz as a new user
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> cortney: but its you setting it up, go crazy
[10:42] <cortney> only takes a couple minutes to setup anyway..
[10:42] <faileas> cortney: i hope it isn't the one mentioned on slashdot ;p
[10:42] <cortney> ? what one mentioned on /.
[10:42] <faileas> lol
[10:43] <faileas> she bought a dell with ubuntu... and dropped out of school cause of that ;p
[10:43] <faileas> (cause she's too dumb to use OOo or call tech support ;p)
[10:43] <cortney> haha.. that's retarded..
[10:43] <faileas> lettme grab the link. its periphrally on topic anyway ;p
[10:43] <cortney> I already messed it up once trying to enabled desktop effects in kde after live install without updates, resulted in a black screen...
[10:43] <Forrest_G> retarded is as retarded does
[10:44] <cortney> thank ubuntu for recovery consoles...
[10:44] <faileas> http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9667184
[10:44] <faileas> lol
[10:44] <ikonia> faileas: it's not on topic
[10:45] <faileas> ikonia: my bad then
[10:45] <afd_> hi! It's not possible to compile plasmoids with the 4.1.96 packages. Is there an ETA when will this be fixed?
[10:46] <cortney> I can confirm that
[10:47] <cortney> can't compile plasmoids in 4.1.96
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> faileas: its offtopic but funny
[10:48] <afd_> I need at least 3 non-bundled plasmoids to feel at home on kde 4.2! I'll have a seisure atack if they don't come soon :-)
[10:48] <cuznt> whats a non bundled plasmoid.
[10:48] <ikonia> try using stable product versions ?
[10:48] <cuznt> i know what a plasmoid is
[10:49] <cortney> and I personally use two ruby ones... which doesn't work in rc1 but was fixed a couple days after it was released...
[10:49] <afd_> ikonia: let's not get into kde 4.1 discussions, they're not worthy
[10:49] <ikonia> I'm not - I'm saying if you want stuff to work, use the stable versions
[10:49] <ikonia> complaining that development releases won't work won't get you very far
[10:49] <cortney> or svn if you have the space
[10:49] <afd_> cortney: non-bundled = stuff I need to compile
[10:50] <cuznt> man so much i need to learn
[10:50] <cuznt> they dont make brain sponges anymore do they?
[10:50] <cortney> I know afd_.. I'm trying to convert a ruby plasmoid to c++, but I can't get it to compile using the examples and other cmakelist files from others in playground
[10:50] <afd_> ikonia: it is my duty as a user to complain. Don't you work in IT?
[10:50] <ikonia> afd_: don't be silly please
[10:50] <cortney> cmake fails saying the cmake compiler isn't set... amongst other errors..
[10:51] <cuznt> im just happy my card games were fixed
[10:51] <afd_> ikonia: I'm just joking, don't take it too harsh. I'm a developer as well, so I know what it's like. I had a discussion yesterday on this channel and somebody said the updates are coming really soon now
[10:53] <afd_> and saying "you have the source code, fix it" is not a solution. I don't have a year to learn how to fix a bug. I know exactly how much knowledge a developer needs to get things done, and I really appreciate that
[10:53] <ikonia> afd_: so why are you asking when it will be fixed ?
[10:53] <cortney> personally I'm used to building autoconf packages not cmake ones so it's new to me..
[10:53] <afd_> ikonia: because I'm like a kid on christmas :)
[10:54] <afd_> there are some goodies but I can't get them
[10:54] <cortney> afd_ how does it fail for you?
[10:54] <cortney> cmake errors?
[10:54] <ikonia> afd_: what do you expect the channel to do ? - speak to the developer/package maintainer
[10:55] <afd_> yesterday somebody on this channel told me the packages were compiling and they'll come soon. I came here today to ask when will they be finished
[10:55] <ikonia> afd_: speak to the package maintainer
[10:55] <afd_> cortney: something about a plasma cmake file from the system being changed
[10:56] <afd_> ikonia: I'll not go that far, I thought somebody on the channel knew... sorry to be a pain the ass
[10:57] <cortney> hmm afd_, mind if I ask, how'd you install the dev tools for plasmoids? (one at a time or some virtual package?)
[10:59] <afd_> cortney: I'm not developing plasmoids, I'm trying to compile some from kde-look.org
[10:59] <afd_> I've had them compiled with the previous kde 4.2 beta, and when I upgraded plasma would breka
[10:59] <afd_> break
[11:00] <afd_> I've erased my ~/.kde folder and now I have a new profile, but I can't compile them
[11:01] <afd_> http://dpaste.com/109753/
[11:01] <afd_> this is the error I get
[11:03] <afd_> I don't exactly remember which package you need to compile plasmoids... something like kdeworkspace-dev, I think
[11:03] <afd_> and cmake
[11:03] <afd_> and the rest of -dev packages
[11:05] <cortney> oh afd_ that's a problem with the package
[11:05] <cortney> afd_ edit the CMakeLists.txt file, remove that line
[11:06] <afd_> cortney: no, not true
[11:06] <cortney> the error explains it kind of, there is plasma is now part of kdelibs
[11:06] <cortney> that is...*
[11:06] <afd_> look at line 9
[11:07] <cortney> yeah findPlasma is now depricated
[11:07] <cortney> and the cmakefile uses it because it hasn't been updated
[11:07] <afd_> exactly my problem :) that cmake file needs to be updated
[11:07] <afd_> but it's a system file, it's not a part of the plasmoid
[11:07] <cortney> you can do it, it's fairly easy, it's not learning a whole new language
[11:08] <cortney> read the error, it provides instructions
[11:08] <cortney> remove that line, scan it for any ocurrences of those varibles and change them where applicable, then retry
[11:08] <afd_> I'm not worried about a new language, I'm worried about the libraries that come with it :)
[11:09] <afd_> ok, let me try
[11:09] <afd_> if you say it will be easy
[11:09] <cortney> it'll take 2 minutes tops
[11:20] <afd_> cortney: sorry, I can't fix it. The FindPlasma.cmake file just raises the error and says that file is not needed anymore. I've changed the CMakeLists.txt file from the plasmoid source to delete the find_package(Plasma REQUIRED) line and I still get the error
[11:21] <afd_> sorry, user fault
[11:21] <afd_> there was another CMakeLists.txt file, in the applet root
[11:21] <afd_> :)
[11:23] <cortney> so it works now ? ;)
[11:23] <afd_> no... now the build fails... probably the library is not defined
[11:23] <afd_> I'm gonna read the FindPlasma.cmake again to figure out what I need to include in that make file
[11:23] <cortney> Plasma should be part of kdelibs...
[11:23] <cortney> might want to ask in #plasma-devel or something
[11:24] <afd_> it doesn't find some header file, probably the location was not included
[11:24] <cortney> or the header file has changed location
[11:24] <afd_> In file included from /tmp/adjustableclock_0.9/applet/plasma-adjustableclock.cpp:21:
[11:24] <afd_> /tmp/adjustableclock_0.9/applet/plasma-adjustableclock.h:36:40: error: libplasmaclock/clockapplet.h: No such file or directory
[11:24] <cortney> again, #plasma-devel or #plasma, they may be able to give you a hint
[11:25] <afd_> ok, thanks
[11:25] <cortney> brb, booting 4.2rc1
[11:28] <IndigoJo> hi everyone
[11:29] <IndigoJo> does anyone know if the intrepid packages for KDE 4.2rc1 have finished building yet?
[11:30] <wsjunior> how can i pair my bluetooth phone with my laptop from command line?
[11:36] <wsjunior> could anybody tell me how to pair bluetooth devices with kubuntu from the command line?
[11:41] <wsjunior> hello?
[11:41] <wsjunior> could anybody tell me how to pair bluetooth devices with kubuntu from the command line?
[11:44] <e66> Hello, I am downloading intrepid repo dvd.I want to extract those dvds in a local folder then use the local files as apt source so that I can install by synaptic or apt. How can I make a local repository in hard disk?
[11:44] <wsjunior> i cant believe i gonna have to install gnome tools to have such feature.. damn :/
[11:44] <wsjunior> e66: use APTonCD
[11:45] <wsjunior> e66: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[11:45] <e66> wsjunior: I dont want to burn those iso. because thsoe dvd willbe corrupted soon.
[11:52] <kusanagi_> im running kde right now... but when i run "sudo aptitude show kde" in status says "not installed"
[11:52] <kusanagi_> how is that possible? :S
[11:54] <e66> kusanagi_:  you are in kubuntu-desktop.and you arerunning kdm.
[11:55] <kusanagi_> so i dont need to install it?
[11:55] <kusanagi_> i mean... shouldnt it be useful for something?
[11:55] <kusanagi_> :)
[11:55] <e66> kusanagi_: when you install kubuntu-desktop everything is installed
[11:56] <kusanagi_> so kde is some kind of metapackage like kubuntu-desktop?
[11:56] <e66> better check kubuntu-desktop
[11:57] <e66> kusanagi_: is it your name or taken from kyo's last name? :P
[11:57] <z55> can one of you tell me if the ./configure command works?
[11:57] <z55> on kde
[11:58] <lantjie> hey guys
[11:58] <lantjie> how is it going
[11:58] <lantjie> ?
[11:58] <e66> z55:  ./configure normally  configures the source tree that is in thecurrent directory.
[11:58] <kusanagi_> e66, no ghost in the shell :) major motoko kusanagi
[11:58] <lantjie> i have a question
[11:59] <z55> e66: can u use this command
[11:59] <z55> ?
[11:59] <kusanagi_> i know that im running kde 4.1 but how do i know kde's version?
[11:59] <lantjie> how must i mount a iso file
[12:00] <convidado> ola
[12:00] <lantjie> can you guys please help me
[12:00] <e66> !pm | z55
[12:02] <tweak> anyoneever patched a kernel?
[12:18] <marek_> hi, i added a user with userad, i created a password, but i cannot connect from other host via ssh... what can i do?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[17:14] <dominique> Thx.
[17:15] <slow-motion> hi
[17:21] <charles__> zfg
[17:22] <charles__> pagina brasil
[17:22] <charles__> sala brasil
[17:22] <genii> charles__: /join #ubuntu-br
[17:23] <charles__> obrigado genii
[17:23] <charles__> ajuda na configuraçao da placa de video fx 5200
[17:23] <Pici> !br | charles__
[17:24] <charles__> jatentei de tudo ativar pelos restritos num ta ficando bao
[17:24] <bazhang> charles__, english here
[17:24] <MMinerva> chi parla italiano
[17:25] <bazhang> #ubuntu-it
[17:25] <charles__> pode ser em qualquer lingua
[17:25] <charles__> pra isso tenho tradutor
[17:25] <bazhang> charles__, /join #ubuntu-br
[17:25] <alfteck> hi all
[17:25] <charles__> to fazendo a perguta la mais ninguem
[17:28] <Knysliux001> Hi. is there any GUI to manage samba shares in Kubuntu Intrepid?
[17:33] <gymkolker> clear
[17:33] <gymkolker> echo
[17:33]  * genii hands gymkolker a coffee
[17:33] <genii> Hm. Odd
[17:34] <tobor> hi all, foolish questio, i just tried to get the bash source package with "apt-get install source bash"  didn't work. I was under the impression that it wouldwork.  can someone hand me a clue?
[17:35] <serenity> hi
[17:35] <genii> tobor: apt-get source bash
[17:35] <serenity> i'm using kde4.2rc1 but can't add google gadgets.
[17:35] <tobor> genii: gracias!
[17:36]  * tobor hands genii a taco or a beef-n-chicken burrito. 
[17:36] <tobor>  its lunchtime here. :-)
[17:36] <genii> tobor: You'll then need to un-compress the file, cd into the dir it makes and do the usual compiling steps
[17:36] <tobor> roger. I can manage that (most days anyway, provided not too many margaritas the night before.. :-) )
[17:36]  * genii munches on burritos
[17:45] <Torch> what do i do if i don't have the folder view plasmoid anymore after upgrade to 4.2rc1?
[17:47] <Torch> nm. found it.
[17:52] <darkdelusions> I really wish I could find a local retailer who would price match Amazon :) but that is never gonna happen
[17:56] <diretrix> boa tarde! estou no Brasil, só falo e escrevo em portugues. Podem me dizer se estou no lugar certo pra tal?
[17:56] <Pici> !br | diretrix
[17:57] <diretrix> grato
[18:01] <gdedomenico> I had an error while upgrading to KDE 4.2-RC1 from kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.1.3). The installation of python-kde4 failed trying to replace /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasma.so because it also belongs to python-plasma and anotherone with kdebase-workspace-libs which failed to replace /usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/krdb_clearlibrarypath. Automatic recovery failed. I tried dpkg -- configure -a but some dependencies are not configured for
[18:01] <gdedomenico> I can't start KDE anymore
[18:12] <hyper_ch> damn, the nVidia driver 180.06 have issues... a lot runs much better but FF runs worse :(
[18:12] <mnid> Добрый вечер ^_^
[18:12] <hyper_ch> !ru | mnid
[18:13] <mnid> senks
[18:17] <gdedomenico> ok i discovered --force-overwrite option... it goes much better now...
[18:18] <max_> !list
[18:48] <serenity> all kde4.2rc1 users: are google gadgets working for you?
[18:49] <JontheEchidna> serenity: nope, google gadgets needs to pass a security review before we can build against it
[18:49] <JontheEchidna> so plasma doesn't have GG support yet
[18:50] <JontheEchidna> you can follow progress of the review here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-gadgets/+bug/314778
[18:51] <serenity> JontheEchidna: so it will be included although feature freeze is over
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> ubuntu hasn't entered feature freeze yet
[18:52] <serenity> JontheEchidna: sure, my fault. Thought of kde
[18:52] <JontheEchidna> :-)
[18:53] <serenity> thanks for the info
[19:05] <velga> ухты, тут еще кто-то есть)
[19:05] <velga> всем привет!
[19:06] <urmel291> !ru
[19:13] <Danu> Hello please anyone knows how to convert wmv to avi?, i used this command : mencoder infile.wmv -ofps 23.976 -ovc lavc -oac copy -o outfile.avi but it didn't work
[19:15] <MikeH> Hrm, I'm having issues with my desktop effects, I can no longer enable them since they crashed, I've since rebooted to no avail
[19:15] <MikeH> I'm using an ati card with the fglrx drivers
[19:36] <Jason_CO> hi folks -- i just recently installed the KDE4.2 beta2 packages on my intrepid system - having a bit of a fit with compiz however
[19:36] <Jason_CO> it had not been working right in 4.1 so i had it disabled and was using the normal kde stuff - i try to install it now and im getting an error
[19:36] <genii> Compiz and KDE4 don't play nice together, since KDE4 now has compositing effects builtin
[19:37] <Jason_CO> ok --
[19:37] <Jason_CO> so what do i do?
[19:37] <Jason_CO> how do i theme and stuff?
[19:38] <Jason_CO> heres the specific error im getting
[19:38] <Jason_CO> compiz-kde:
[19:38] <Jason_CO>  Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed
[19:39] <dominik_g> hi, do you really need compiz? kwin provides some compositing effects too (simply right click on some window decoration and go to settings)
[19:40] <Jason_CO> well.. i just tried that and i don thave a settings option
[19:40] <Jason_CO> i like for example the desktop cube
[19:40] <urmel291> Jason_CO: Go to "System Settings" -> Desktop
[19:41] <genii> Jason_CO: I'm currently still running 3.5.10 so not much help on this specific issue. You could try asking in #compiz-fusion channel
[19:41] <urmel291> Jason_CO: u can configure kwin's effects there (with KDE 4.2 it also has a cube effect)
[19:41] <Jason_CO> ok
[19:41] <Jason_CO> thanks -- im looking at it there
[19:42] <dominik_g> I have a question on my own: I am experiencing some issue with plasma having installed the 4.2 RC 1 packages from ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental. I cannot add plasmoids to the desktop. The respective widget just hangs. Should I report this problem, and if yes, where?
[19:43] <urmel291> dominik_g: any plasmoid or a specific one?
[19:43] <urmel291> domini_g: i have no problem adding for example an analagous clock to the desktop
[19:44] <dominik_g> Well, I tried a bunch. It hanged with all of them.
[19:44] <dominik_g> Strangely enough, I can add plasmoids to the panel without any problem.
[19:45] <dominique> Can someone recommend me a graphical ftp client for kde4? kftpgrabber is buggy (crashes after processing multiple uploads)
[19:45] <dominik_g> I just tried the analagous clock: same problem.
[19:45] <urmel291> dominik_g: strange... have u tried with a test user and empty .kde?
[19:46] <dominik_g> urmel291: You are right, I should have tried that already. I will check this..
[19:55] <Jason_CO> the kde effects are not really up to what im looking for - -compiz and emerald work great on my laptop -- anyone know why compiz-kde keeps throwing the error?
[19:55] <Jason_CO> compiz-kde:
[19:55] <Jason_CO>  Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed
[19:55] <Jason_CO> '
[19:55] <dominik_g> I have now checked my plasma problem with a test account and adding plasmoids is working fine! Thanks for your help!
[19:55] <Jason_CO> and what to do about it --
[19:55] <urmel291> dominik_g: no problem... must be a problem with some config file then
[19:55] <Jason_CO> i tried looking at the libplasma2 in synaptic -- its actually got libplasma3 installed
[19:56] <genii> dominique: I'm partial to filezilla for firefox, it's platform-independent
[19:56] <Jason_CO> if i try to un-install it -- it tries to wipe out all the 4.2 stuff
[19:56] <dominik_g> urmel291: Exactly... I am trying to track this down now...
[19:56] <urmel291> dominik_g: good luck
[19:59] <mefisto__> dominique: I just use konqueror for ftp
[20:02] <dominik_g> Jason_CO: I think your problem has to do with an incompatibility (of the packages) of compiz-kde and kde 4.2 (you are using kde 4.2, isn't it?)
[20:02] <dominique> Can someone recommend me a graphical ftp client for kde4? kftpgrabber is buggy (crashes after processing multiple uploads)
[20:02] <Jason_CO> yes - -im using kde4.2 beta 2
[20:02] <Jason_CO> dominik_g: recomend filezilla
[20:03] <Jason_CO> works great
[20:03] <dominik_g> we have two dominik/que... :)
[20:04] <zac_> how do you mount .iso files
[20:04] <Jason_CO> oops -- sorry
[20:04] <Haza> Gentlemen.. I have an issue with my sound card. I have both onboard sound and a 5.1 Soundblaster. It would seem that my Kubuntu has picked up both the onboard and the 5.1 but defaults to using the onboard sound. How might i default to using the 5.1 instead?
[20:04] <zac_> what program do is there for mounting .iso files
[20:04] <Jason_CO> dominique:  recommend filezilla
[20:04] <SlimeyPete> Haza: disable the onboard in the BIOS?
[20:04] <SlimeyPete> 's probably the most effective way
[20:05] <dominique> Jason_CO: Thank you :)
[20:05] <Haza> SlimeyPete: Not a bad idea and i had already actually thought of that but can you believe if i do then the system goes nuts (I think the motherboard may be a little cheesed)
[20:06] <mefisto__> Haza: I had the same problem. this is how to set default soundcard: first find the name of the card you want as default with: cat /proc/asound/modules
[20:06] <zac_> Is there a program like Daemon Tools, or Alcohol 120% for mounting .ISO files on kubuntu nightly ????
[20:06] <Haza> Just to be sure.... im guessing im right in thinking my OS picked up my 5.1 if i look at KMix and can choose from two cards on the pulldown
[20:06] <Haza> One being my 5.1 PCI card
[20:06] <urmel291> zac_: "sudo mount -o loop <file>.iso /mnt"
[20:06] <Haza> mefisto__: Im listening
[20:07] <SlimeyPete> yeah, sounds about right
[20:07] <mefisto__> then edit alsa-base: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[20:08] <Haza> mefisto__: Right, checking it out now
[20:08] <zac_> urmel291: do i have to put home/zac/desktop/filename ?
[20:08] <mefisto__> at the end of that file, add "options snd-<soundcard-name> index=0"
[20:08] <urmel291> zac_: if the iso image is on your desktop yes: /home/zac/Desktop/filename
[20:08] <mefisto__> Haza: index=0 will be the default soundcard
[20:09] <zac_> urmel291: it is on my desktop, but idk the exact file name of it, is there anyways for me to get the exact name ???
[20:10] <urmel291> zac_: use "ls /home/zac/Desktop" (if that's the right directory) to see which files are on ur desktop
[20:11] <raidenovich> when i download a package with "sudo aptitude download **************" where is it saved?
[20:11] <Pici> raidenovich: the current directory.
[20:11] <urmel291> zac_: i guess filename is the label of the icon though
[20:11] <raidenovich> ah, nice
[20:11] <raidenovich> thanks Pici
[20:12] <Haza> mefisto__: Just to doublecheck before i commit the changes to the file....
[20:12] <zac_> urmel291:
[20:12] <zac_> zac@Black-feet:~$ ls /home/zac/Desktop
[20:12] <zac_> poweriso-1.3.tar.gz  W7.iso
[20:12] <Haza> you said snd-<soundcard-name>
[20:12] <Haza> my sound card is called..... "snd_emu10k1"
[20:12] <zac_> i want to mount the W7.iso file
[20:13] <sidney> how do i get a list of the channels
[20:13] <urmel291> zac_: so the filename is W7.iso, use "sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/W7.iso /mnt" to mount it into /mnt
[20:13] <Haza> Im guessing i want to replace that one line above so it looks like..... options snd_emu10k1 index=0
[20:14] <mefisto__> Haza: ok so make it "options snd_emu10k1 index=0" (without the quotes)
[20:14] <Haza> mefisto__: Just making sure mate ;)
[20:14] <zac_> it says its mounted
[20:14] <genii> zac_: Actually you'll need likely: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop isoname.iso /mountpoint
[20:14] <zac_> now where do i go to view the .iso file ?
[20:14] <mefisto__> Haza: and you can add the other soundcard too if you like, make it index=1
[20:15] <Haza> mefisto__: Well the onboard sound card works. but its just basic and i have this PCI 5.1 just sitting there doing nothing and lovely 5.1 speakers to go with it :)
[20:15] <Haza> mefisto__: So im guessing i need to restart my sound process or something
[20:15] <urmel291> genii: don't think it's necessary anymore
[20:15] <urmel291> !iso
[20:15] <genii> zac_: The iso contents will be listed in the dir /mnt if it was the command you executed just earlier from urmel291
[20:16] <mefisto__> Haza: correct. what you've done determines the order the modules will load on boot
[20:16] <Haza> And thats what decided the default eh?
[20:16] <genii> urmel291: Ah, nice.
[20:17] <Haza> mefisto__:  So... last (hopefully) question... What is the command to restart my sound system without rebooting the whole machine?
[20:18] <mefisto__> Haza: there's also the asoundconf command, but the alsa-base edit works always and is fully permanent (see "asoundconf --help")
[20:19] <mefisto__> Haza: I don't think restarting the sound system will do it. the modules need to be reloaded, like on boot up
[20:19] <mefisto__> Haza: but you can try
[20:20] <Haza> mefisto__: sudo ./alsa-utils restart        <--- look good?
[20:20] <Haza> in the /etc/init.d/ dir
[20:21] <Jason_CO> ok -- im back from talking to the compiz-fusion people -- they say that somehow (unknown how) libplasma3 has somehow gotten installed on my system inplace of libplasma 2 -- apparently libplasma3 is part of jaunty -- not intrepid -- ive followed the instructions on the kubuntu website for installing kde4.2beta2 -- (add the ppa etc) now what do i do?
[20:22] <mefisto__> Haza: I don't have alsa-utils on my system. I can do "sudo alsa reload" or "sudo alsa force-reload" if something has stopped the audio and won't release it
[20:22] <raidenovich> is it normal that when i download a .deb file and want to give it to another computer with an usb stick that the second computer cant see the debian file?
[20:22] <Haza> mefisto__: Well i tried the above command i said and got..
[20:22] <Haza>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                                                                [ OK ] * Setting up ALSA...                                                                                                   [ OK ]
[20:23] <sahil_> when is kde 4.2 scheduled
[20:23] <Haza> Then i checked KMix and indeed the 5.1 was the defaul in the pull down
[20:23] <Haza> But it looks like sound still comes from the onboard
[20:23] <Haza> So i'll go with the system restart
[20:24] <mefisto__> Haza: and what about cat /proc/asound/modules ? does the right one have a 0 ?
[20:24] <stdin> sahil_: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule
[20:24] <urmel291> Jason_CO: do u have libplasma2<sth>.deb in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[20:25] <urmel291> raidenovich: no, that's not normal
[20:25] <Jason_CO> urmel291: no
[20:26] <urmel291> Jason_CO: have u tried "sudo apt-get install libplasma"?
[20:26] <urmel291> Jason_CO: libplasma2, sorry
[20:26] <Haza> mefisto__: Nope
[20:26] <Haza> Its still at 1
[20:27] <Haza> So a reboot
[20:27] <Haza> ?
[20:27] <Jason_CO> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:27] <Jason_CO>   libplasma2: Depends: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 but it is not going to be installed
[20:27] <Jason_CO>               Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but 4:4.1.96-0ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1 is to be installed
[20:27] <mefisto__> Haza: I'm sure there's a way to unload/reload the modules rather than just restart them, but I don't know how, other than reboot
[20:27] <Jason_CO> urmel291: theres a bunch more explaination that i can pastebin if u want me to
[20:27] <urmel291> Jason_CO: right, i see the problem
[20:27] <Haza> mefisto__: No worries mate. Ive just gone and shutdown all my apps / servers anyhow
[20:27] <Jason_CO> urmel291: excellent
[20:27] <Haza> So, i'll give it a try
[20:28] <Haza> brb! o/
[20:28] <urmel291> Jason_CO: Wait a sec
[20:28] <Jason_CO> urmel291: no worries -- relaxin in my easychair
[20:31] <urmel291> Jason_CO: KDE 4.2 needs libplasma3, it is in the PPA from where u got KDE 4.2
[20:32] <Jason_CO> libplasma3 is installed - its not allowing compiz-kde to install cuz thats demanding libplasma2
[20:32] <urmel291> Jason_CO: yes, since compiz-kde is not compiled for KDE 4.2
[20:32] <clou> is ubuntu still gnome fixed or will they more and more better support kde?
[20:32] <urmel291> Jason_CO: i don't see an easy solution to ur problem
[20:33] <Jason_CO> for some odd reason compiz and kde4.2 work great on my laptop at work -- just cant get it to work here
[20:33] <Jason_CO> is compiz-kde required to make compiz run on kde?
[20:33] <Jason_CO> or do i have a diff issue there?
[20:34] <urmel291> Jason_CO: yes, it is required as far as i know
[20:34] <Jason_CO> ugh
[20:34] <_mr_S> compiz can be started from the cli. check if you can start compiz this way.
[20:36] <Jason_CO> working on it
[20:38] <Haza> mefisto__: Ping
[20:38] <_mr_S> oooops wrong channel
[20:38] <mefisto__> Haza: how did it go?
[20:38] <Haza> mefisto__: well... :)
[20:38] <Haza> If i do... cat /proc/asound/modules
[20:38] <Haza> I only have one sounds card now
[20:38] <Haza> The onboard one
[20:39] <Haza> this is confirmed by the lack of drop down in the KMix window
[20:39] <mefisto__> Haza: so the onboard one didn't load at all? I have both mine in that alsa-base file, the second one is index=1
[20:40] <Haza> mefisto__:  The onboard one did load but the PCI one did not
[20:41] <mefisto__> Haza: so the wrong one is loaded
[20:41] <Haza> the cat /proc/asound/modules yields....  0 snd_hda_intel
[20:41] <Haza> and the PCIAnd the line i added was....... options snd_emu10k1 index=0
[20:41] <Haza> -and the PCI < forget that
[20:43] <Haza> if you like i can always pastebin the alsa-base file?
[20:43] <mefisto__> Haza: sure
[20:44] <Haza> mefisto__:  Two seconds
[20:44] <mefisto__> Haza: maybe you should add both cards index=0 for default, index=1 for the onboard sound
[20:44] <Haza> mefisto__: I was thinking the same thing
[20:45] <nashk> hi
[20:45] <Haza> mefisto__: http://pastebin.com/d41c76ac4
[20:46] <Haza> So ill just add options snd_hda_intel index=1 at line 41?
[20:46] <nashk> I'm not sure if this is kubunut related, but in my firefox, the I move the cursor, the page also moves with it as if I'm hodling downt he bar to the right. It's very annoying and it seems like the devs though it's a UI enhancement. Any idea how I can disable it his?
[20:46] <Jason_CO> heres what happens when i try to start compiz from terminal (via fusion icon)
[20:46] <Jason_CO> http://pastebin.ca/1310330
[20:47] <mefisto__> Haza: yep
[20:49] <_mr_S> from the file you have pasted, it seems to be an issue with GLX extension. Hav eyou configuerd your xorg.conf for compiz ?
[20:49] <Jason_CO> not that im aware of -- how would i do this?
[20:50] <Haza> mefisto__: Okay mate. Sounds good (no pun intended). I'll add the line and restart
[20:50] <_mr_S> which card tyoe are you using nvidia or ati ?
[20:50] <Haza> And grab a beer while im at it! :D
[20:50] <Haza> brb
[20:50] <mefisto__> something tells me Haza is australian
[20:50] <Jason_CO> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[20:51] <_mr_S> this is an intel card ( laptop or mainboard )
[20:51] <Jason_CO> motherboard
[20:52] <_mr_S> let me check something
[20:52] <Jason_CO> ok - thanks for your help
[20:52] <genii> so 865
[20:52] <Jason_CO> ??
[20:54] <_mr_S> take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-542565.html
[20:55] <_mr_S> this might do the trick
[20:58] <kids> nice to see everybody here
[21:00] <Haza> mefisto__: Well mate that worked!
[21:00] <mefisto__> Haza: great
[21:00] <Haza> I have both cards again and the default is the 5.1
[21:01] <Haza> mefisto__: You're a star mate! I owe you a beer if you ever happen to pass through Edinburgh ;)
[21:01] <mefisto__> Haza: I suppose that means if you add more soundcards, you'd have to add them to alsa-base, or remove them all. otherwise the modules won't load
[21:02] <Haza> Oh thats okay. Since i work in open source im pretty used to manually setting things :D
[21:02] <mefisto__> Haza: I was guessing you were in australia, from the "mate" and the beer :)
[21:02] <Haza> And usually in XML =/
[21:02]  * Haza is an Englishman living in Scotland ;)
[21:04] <Haza> mefisto__: Anyway, Thanks again. Now i can fully enjoy my music while i work again! :D
[21:07] <mefisto__> Haza: np, glad to help
[21:07] <slack__> hello is somebody on?
[21:07] <ulysses__> hy, i want to install a plasmoid, but it requires ksgrd/SensorClient.h and ksgrd/SensorManager.h, what packages have i to install?
[21:08] <slack__> ulysses
[21:08] <slack__> have you instaled apt-file?
[21:08] <ulysses__> yes
[21:08] <jussi01> !tab | slack__
[21:08] <slack__> search that with apt-file , it will say you what you need (sorry for my english)
[21:09] <ulysses__> thanks for the help, and i also speak very bad english, i am from hungary:)
[21:09] <slack__> ajjaja
[21:09] <slack__> somebody has put in work pkgsrc of netbsd in *ubuntu??
[21:13] <slack__> how i install pkgsrc in kubuntu , if i can't get "echo" bsd version?
[21:28] <Hirngespenst> nahmt
[21:41] <raidenovich> salut, how can i install a tar.bz2 file in kubuntu?
[21:46] <dr_willis> !compile
[21:51] <cplusplus> how could i find out the kubuntu version?
[21:52] <rickest> cat /etc/*release*
[21:52] <genii> cplusplus: lsb_reelease -a
[21:53] <genii> bah typos, etc
[21:54] <cplusplus> oh my kubuntu is old:
[21:55] <balaram> hablas español
[21:55] <cplusplus> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS"
[21:55] <cplusplus> how could i update?
[21:55] <balaram> hay alguien que hable español?
[21:55] <cplusplus> will i need kubuntu live cd?
[21:55] <cplusplus> to get kubuntu 8?
[21:55] <vincenzo> ciao a tutti
[21:55] <sts> hey all
[21:56] <cplusplus> vincezo like luca toni?;)
[21:56] <vincenzo> yes
[21:56] <Tm_T> !es | balaram
[21:56] <vincenzo> but i prefer del piero
[21:56] <Tm_T> !it | vincenzo
[21:56] <cplusplus> vincenzo, do you know his song?
[21:56] <Tm_T> !ot | cplusplus
[21:57] <vincenzo> ok thx
[21:57] <cplusplus> vincenzo, chekc private msg
[21:58] <balaram> alguien quiere hablar español, se puede?
[21:58] <vincenzo> cooool
[21:58] <genii> balaram: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:58] <sts> byezzzz
[21:58] <cplusplus> vincenzo, cool?
[22:01] <cplusplus> vincenzo, ?
[22:03] <ulysses__> hy again, i tried to install a plasmoid, but it requires SensorClient.h, and apt-file doesn't find it, can somebody help me, what di i have to install?
[22:06] <mefisto__> ulysses__: I have hardy installed and it finds it: kdebase-dev: /usr/include/kde/ksgrd/SensorClient.h
[22:07] <ulysses__> i have intrepid, and kdebase-dev is installed
[22:07] <mefisto__> ksgrd sounds like it might be ksysguard
[22:08] <ulysses__> in /usr/include/kde isn't ksgrd directory
[22:08] <TheCil> someone here?
[22:11] <mefisto__> ulysses__: it also finds (running hardy, remember) kdebase-workspace-dev: /usr/lib/kde4/include/ksgrd/SensorClient.h
[22:11] <Aison> evening
[22:12] <Aison> I tried to setup a vpn connection with openvpn. I create a new connection in kde network-manager, select vpn->openvpn->X509
[22:12] <Aison> add the necessary keys
[22:12] <Aison> but nothing works, I cant even see some status window that shows what goes wrong
[22:13] <seba> !es
[22:13] <ulysses__> mefisto__, thanks, it works!
[22:13] <mefisto__> ulysses__: what works?
[22:14] <ulysses__> oh, nothing, error again
[22:14] <cyberponix> If computer screen goes black and starts beeping when trying to install what does that mean?
[22:14] <ulysses__> i try to install http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/yasp+Yet+Another+SystemMonitor+Plasmoid+?content=94144
[22:14] <cyberponix> If computer screen goes black and starts beeping when trying to install what does that mean?
[22:15] <cyberponix> My disks are fine computer is brand new
[22:16] <[1]felix> Hi guys. I'm trying to install kubuntu 8.10 with "unetbootin" program (CD installation isnt an option for me now), but when I boot to "unetbootin" and start kubuntu live's installation, through installation process I cannot see my partitions (to chose root, home...)!? Anyone knows what's the problem?
[22:16] <cyberponix> I cant even get that far man...
[22:18] <mefisto__> cyberponix: at what stage does it do that?
[22:28] <andypls1> guys can anyone help me?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> !ask
[22:29] <mefisto__> ulysses__: is ksysguard installed on intrepid? or has it been replaced with something else?
[22:30] <ulysses__> mefisto__, yes, it is installed, i must use: cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release -DKDE-4.1=true ../
[22:30] <ulysses__> before i use "make" and "sudo make install"
[22:30] <andypls1> ok when i turn the wireless button on, Linux doesn't recognise it, even though it works under Windows. When I dmesg, this is the output:
[22:30] <ulysses__> and the plasmoid works fine:)
[22:31] <andypls1> [   94.212021] iwl3945: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:
[22:31] <andypls1> [   94.212025] Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
[22:31] <andypls1> [   94.744760] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x88 on isa0060/serio0).
[22:31] <andypls1> ?
[22:31] <mefisto__> ulysses__: so you've solved it?
[22:31] <ulysses__> yes, i solved
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> andypls1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820297
[22:33] <bill> Hello
[22:34] <cyberponix> mefisto__ u still around?
[22:34] <mefisto__> yes
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> andypls1: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1454
[22:34] <cyberponix> ok so I got past the black screen...
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> andypls1: little clearer here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2908414
[22:34] <andypls1> ok i'll read them
[22:34] <cyberponix> now it has a comand line screen and I dont know it
[22:35] <cyberponix> is it cause of Nvidia maybe?
[22:35] <bill> Does anyone know how to activate the cube effect.
[22:35] <cyberponix> compiz
[22:36] <cyberponix> bill you will need to get compiz fusion
[22:36] <bill> How do you use it?
[22:36] <cyberponix> onpen your package man and search for compiz
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> bill: you need to have video drivers installed first, then compiz will work fine
[22:36] <andypls1> sudo /usr/share/acpi-support/state-funcs
[22:36] <andypls1> sudo: /usr/share/acpi-support/state-funcs: command not found
[22:36] <mefisto__> cyberponix: so what happened? you've just installed, and no graphical login?
[22:36] <cyberponix> no I cant even install
[22:37] <cyberponix> Bill you will need to install it make sure you have  3d graphics card
[22:37] <terrorbite> hi all i was wondering if anyone knows if there is a adobe shockwave version for kubuntu 8.10 without installing windows version of firefox
[22:37] <bill> I have the effects on. I have effects. But I don't know how to get the cube on the screen
[22:37] <cyberponix> so u have compiz correct?
[22:38] <bill> I have a nvidia 55 card. Yes I have compiz.
[22:38] <cyberponix> you will need to go to the desktop effects and edit them as u like it is graphical and easy to use
[22:39] <bill> No alt tab key or anything like that?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> bill: if you have installed compiz use ctrl+alt+click drag the mouse
[22:39] <cyberponix> I think it was in k butten>util or sys
[22:39] <cyberponix> I dont have it anymore...
[22:39] <mefisto__> cyberponix: so what stage are you at? does the livecd boot up? or are you using alternative-install cd?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> bill: you will need to run: compiz --replace to start it
[22:39] <bill> Let me try
[22:39] <terrorbite> can anyone help me please with lack of shockwave issue
[22:39] <cyberponix> live cd from kubuntu ship it free used it many times never ran into this b 4
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> bill: if you dont have 3d, it wont run
[22:40] <cyberponix> it says (initramfs)
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: you missing your kmenu?
[22:40] <cyberponix> then I can type in commands however I dont know what to type
[22:40] <cyberponix> I have nothing I cant even install
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: you can use apt-get install in a konsole
[22:41] <mefisto__> cyberponix: so the livecd doesn't boot
[22:41] <cyberponix> it does but after laungu select and the options screen it goes black then into command line
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: did you check the cd for defects on the first boot screen?
[22:42] <cyberponix> yes its fine
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> ok thats good
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> is your ram ok?
[22:42] <cyberponix> brand new computer just bought it thismorinbg
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> you can test that too with the cd
[22:42] <cyberponix> moring*
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> can still be bad ram, its worth a test just to isolate it out
[22:42] <cyberponix> it boots into vista just fine I dont want windows I want my linux back
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> the livecd runs purely in ram
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> so bad ram can affect it
[22:43] <cyberponix> it has three gigs prefectly good ram more than enough
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> it may have a fault
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> its not a question of quantity
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> its worth checking just so you know its not that
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> you could try some bootoptions
[22:44] <cyberponix> I was thinking it might be the intagated nivida card maybe that is the issue?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | cyberponix
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: you may have to disable acpi until you get installed, or dma
[22:45] <cyberponix> how?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: read the link, you can add kernel options to the livecd before its booted
[22:45] <cyberponix> ie vid drivers?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> no, stuff like turning off power options for proprietary power chips (like ni acer lappys)
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: if you disable most advanced functionality the install will run bad but once it boots from the installed system it will be ok
[22:47] <cyberponix> this is an acer desktop
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> yeah figures
[22:47] <cyberponix> does that have anything to do with it? lol
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> they use some propritary power management crap that used to be a BIG pain in the ass
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> id say so
[22:47] <BattleStarJesus> I am trying to configure a desktop to preform as a wireless access point.  I am having trouble finging a proper tutorial that I can follow.  What method should I use?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> disable acpi and dma for the live install and get kubuntu installed
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> !ics | BattleStarJesus
[22:48] <cyberponix> how do I do that?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: read the link, it tells you
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[22:50] <cyberponix> i didnt see the "list" link b 4 thanx
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> np man
[23:04] <cplusplus> iis it allowed to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/local/lib ?
[23:05] <Stalker72> When I try to install Kubuntu using the Alternative CD, at the CD-ROM step, I have to manually write something. The default is "/dev/cdrom". What do I do? My CD-ROM is SATA and it's very new (fresh PC build).
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: i dont think you can write to /dev/cdrom without a cd burning app
[23:11] <FisherPrice> my livecd of ubuntu 8.10 won't even boot on my machine
[23:11] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: I don't have an OS on the PC right now.
[23:11] <FisherPrice> it crashes out
[23:11] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: When I try the normal install, there is a black screen with text saying BusyBox and (initramfs), etc.
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> FisherPrice: did you md5 check your iso before burning, and also verify the burned cd is ok once you booted to it
[23:11] <FisherPrice> which is disappointing since in order to get a clean instal of intrepid is to install 7.10 and upgrade using the updatemanager
[23:11] <FisherPrice> ActionParsnip: yep
[23:12] <FisherPrice> it's OK
[23:12] <Zorix> use unetbootin and install from usb flash drive
[23:12] <FisherPrice> I've heard some pple needing to use that from the flash drive
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> FisherPrice: try some boot options then
[23:12] <FisherPrice> i haven't tried it yet since i don't have a flash drive large enough yet
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | FisherPrice
[23:12] <FisherPrice> ActionParsnip: if it were that easy.. i did that
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> FisherPrice: many dont use md5 checks, I assume nothing in here
[23:13] <FisherPrice> I tried everything
[23:13] <FisherPrice> ActionParsnip: good not to assume anything
[23:13] <FisherPrice> originally i didn't
[23:13] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: I've tried installing Linux with 3-4 different CDs, but everyone I get a screen saying BusyBox, (initramfs), etc.. What can I do?
[23:13] <Stalker72> *everytime
[23:13] <FisherPrice> then when someone here suggested it i checked
[23:14] <FisherPrice> Stalker72: that's what i got initially
[23:14] <FisherPrice> now it just crashed out...
[23:14] <Stalker72> Can it have something to do with the HDD?
[23:14] <FisherPrice> I wish i could get a log file or something but the best i can do is take a photo
[23:16] <FisherPrice> that's what i might do soon for anyone that's intrested
[23:16] <Stalker72> FisherPrice: Does your BIOS detect the hard disks?
[23:16] <FisherPrice> Stalker72: yep
[23:16] <FisherPrice> I'm using the comp now
[23:16] <Stalker72> Are you inside Kubuntu?
[23:16] <FisherPrice> well, I originally installed kubuntu
[23:16] <BluesKaj> Stalker72 , could be your hardware .Is your pc really new or really old ?
[23:17] <Stalker72> BluesKaj: I just built it.
[23:17] <FisherPrice> I'm using gnome now, cause i like compiz better
[23:17] <Stalker72> Do you want the specs?
[23:17] <BluesKaj> ahhh, a hal prob I bet
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: i'd try different boot options and / or disable unnecessary hrdware in bios
[23:17] <mefisto__> Stalker72: does the motherboard have a driver update maybe?
[23:18] <mefisto__> Stalker72: I mean bios update
[23:18] <shodan45> is it possible to specify a resolution to kubuntu (live cd) with grub?
[23:18] <shodan45> I get scrambled video :(
[23:18] <BluesKaj> compiz runs on kubuntu as well , FisherPrice
[23:18] <Stalker72> mefisto__: Maybe, but how can I install it anyways? I'm pretty new to the Linux world. :P
[23:18] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: I've disabled floppy.
[23:19] <shodan45> with opensuse you get a nice menu in grub :/
[23:19] <FisherPrice> BluesKaj: yeah, not as well from my experience
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: stuff like lan, audio, acpi
[23:19] <BluesKaj> Stalker72 , have you tried to install windows ?
[23:19] <Stalker72> BluesKaj: No
[23:19] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a try
[23:20] <andypls1> guys how do i change my resolution
[23:20] <andypls1> ?
[23:20] <FisherPrice> BluesKaj: unless it's changed since 8.04
[23:20] <shodan45> errr, freaky.... I switched virt terminal & back to X, now it works......
[23:20] <FisherPrice> i haven't tried compiz on kde since feisty
[23:20] <FisherPrice> no, since gutsy
[23:20] <Stalker72> BluesKaj: Is Kubuntu compatible with all the latest hardware?
[23:21] <FisherPrice> Stalker72: if you have drivers then it's compatible.. i don't think it's related
[23:21] <Stalker72> FisherPrice: Drivers for Windows you mean?
[23:22] <Stalker72> FisherPrice: The MB and GPU (etc.) always comes with driver CDs.
[23:22] <FisherPrice> Stalker72: no, as in if you can use OpenGL in linux then compiz will work
[23:23] <FisherPrice> i don't think you can get compiz for windows
[23:23] <Stalker72> You talked about drivers. What kind of drivers do you mean? The ones that come in the boxes or Linux drivers?
[23:24] <FisherPrice> linux drivers
[23:24] <Stalker72> Aren't they loaded automatically (except GPU drivers)?
[23:25] <FisherPrice> Stalker72: normally the GPU drivers have to be loaded specially, what 3d video card to you have?
[23:25] <Stalker72> FisherPrice: GTX 260
[23:26] <FisherPrice> !nvidia | Stalker72
[23:26] <Stalker72> FisherPrice: But how can GPU drivers fix the installation problems? :P
[23:27] <FisherPrice> sry, it can't you were talking about compiz etc... if you can get kubuntu installed, then make sure you look at that
[23:27] <Stalker72> Well, I can't get it installed. :P
[23:28] <Stalker72> BusyBox, (initramfs), blablabla...
[23:28] <FisherPrice> well, have you tried pressing F4 to get extra options?
[23:28] <FisherPrice> I've tried booting in "Safe Graphics Mode"
[23:28] <FisherPrice> normally it works
[23:28] <FisherPrice> I'm going to try it again later
[23:29] <Stalker72> When should I press F4?
[23:29] <FisherPrice> when the CD boots up, and you get options like "Boot Ubuntu to try it", "Install Ubuntu", "Memory test" etc
[23:30] <FisherPrice> the wording is a little different, but hopefully you get the gist
[23:30] <Stalker72> before I get the options, or after?
[23:30] <FisherPrice> those are the options
[23:30] <Stalker72> yeah, but should I press F4 at that screen?
[23:31] <FisherPrice> yes
[23:31] <Stalker72> ok, let me try, brb
[23:31] <FisherPrice> wait
[23:31] <Stalker72> ok
[23:31] <FisherPrice> select the "safe Graphics" enter/escape out of that list, then press enter again
[23:31] <FisherPrice> that should start the boot process
[23:32] <FisherPrice> if you want to install it, make sure you select "instal ubuntu" before you press F4
[23:32] <Stalker72> can I boot without Kubuntu being installed?
[23:32] <FisherPrice> have you got that
[23:32] <FisherPrice> yes, that's the first option
[23:32] <Stalker72> live thingy?
[23:32] <FisherPrice> yes
[23:33] <FisherPrice> you can safely select "Install Ubuntu"
[23:33] <Stalker72> after that it starts loading
[23:33] <Stalker72> then i get the same black screen
[23:33] <Stalker72> it doesn't get to the inst. process
[23:33] <FisherPrice> bacause once you are in, you have to manually select "install ubuntu"
[23:33] <FisherPrice> yeah, that black screen might have something to do with the graphics
[23:34] <FisherPrice> in safe mode it should get around that issue
[23:34] <FisherPrice> try it either way
[23:34] <Stalker72> so I press escape when it's booting?
[23:34] <FisherPrice> if you boot it up to just use it then next time try the install
[23:34] <FisherPrice> no
[23:34] <Stalker72> ooh ok
[23:34] <Stalker72> so I try to install from the live session?
[23:35] <FisherPrice> it's live no matter what
[23:35] <Stalker72> do you want me to try to access the live session first?
[23:35] <FisherPrice> it's sorta hard to explain.. the top option doesn't have the instal option
[23:35] <FisherPrice> the install ubuntu does
[23:35] <FisherPrice> that's about it
[23:36] <FisherPrice> yeah, just try it... but try the "safe Graphics" mode
[23:36] <Stalker72> before, I was able to click Install Now from within the live session
[23:36] <Stalker72> ok, so I tap Esc all the time when loading?
[23:36] <FisherPrice> and for the record, I'm not on the ubuntu support team
[23:36] <FisherPrice> hrm, let me try on the other computer... it loaded OK
[23:37] <Stalker72> ok, sec, I'll try
[23:37] <c0debr8ker> burn it to a dvd instead of a cd
[23:39] <c0debr8ker> that was the only way i could get ubuntu to install
[23:40] <TimS> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[23:40] <TimS> Aborted
[23:40] <FisherPrice> OK, I was wrong, ubuntu have changed things a little...
[23:41] <FisherPrice> you can cancel the install and get to the livecd
[23:41] <TimS> Anyone help out as to what I can do about this error?
[23:41] <c0debr8ker> i couldnt install ubuntu after burning to cd's............ burnt to dvd and had no problems
[23:42] <Stalker72> I don't think I have a DVD.
[23:42] <Zorix> use unetbootin to install from usb flash drive
[23:42] <Stalker72> FisherPrice, I pressed F4, pressed Enter on Safe graphics mode. Nothing happened.
[23:42] <FisherPrice> did you press <Enter> twice ?
[23:42] <Stalker72> no
[23:42] <FisherPrice> try that
[23:43] <Stalker72> ok
[23:43] <Stalker72> sec
[23:43] <mefisto__> c0debr8ker: when you say you couldn't install, do you mean the livecd wouldn't boot?
[23:43] <c0debr8ker> it would boot but wouldnt never setup at all ..........would just hang up
[23:44] <FisherPrice> c0debr8ker: keh, i don't understand... you burnt the cd image to a DVD?
[23:44] <c0debr8ker> yep
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: you could boot from minimal iso (10mb) and only download the packages you want to install rather than the full system
[23:44] <Stalker72> Safe graphics mode retrieved the same black screen.
[23:44] <Stalker72> with BusyBox and (initramfs) etc.
[23:45] <Stalker72> How do I do that, ActionParsnip?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> !minimal | Stalker72
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: 64bit is 10Mb, 32bit is 9Mb
[23:46] <Stalker72> The Alternate CD, which I also tried, retrieved lots of errors...
[23:46] <Stalker72> /dev/cdrom thing, etc.
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: as long as the minimal system detects your network adapter you are sweet
[23:47] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: Are there Kubuntu minimal CD images?
[23:47] <Zorix> !unetbootin
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: it doesnt work like that
[23:47] <cplusplus> how could i get the latest version if ffmpeg?
[23:48] <cplusplus> from svn
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: minimal gives you lan access and a kernel, onc its booted you can choose to install the kubuntu-desktop
[23:48] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: ???
[23:48] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: Oh, ok!
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: you can chosose to install anything you choose, or just simply drop to cli so you can setup the whole lot manually
[23:48] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: You want me to burn it?
[23:48] <mefisto__> but it seems the kernel is not booting for Stalker72
[23:49] <cplusplus> whats that? ->
[23:49] <cplusplus> root@gerald-desktop:/home/gerald/opencv-1.1.0/samples/c# apt-get purge ffmpeg x264 libx264-dev
[23:49] <cplusplus> E: Invalid operation purge
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> cplusplus: try: apt-get --purge remove ffmpeg x264 libx264-dev
[23:50] <Stalker72> mefisto__: What should I try first then?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> cplusplus: if thats what you meant (to uninstall)
[23:51] <cplusplus> ok
[23:51] <cplusplus> remove works
[23:52] <cplusplus> what is git?
[23:52] <cplusplus> git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264.git
[23:52] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: Shall I try the minimal CD and report back?
[23:53] <mefisto__> Stalker72: don't know. just trying to understand what could be going wrong. have you tried other boot options from ActionParsnip's link?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: its worth a try, remeber to md5 check ;)
[23:53] <tweakedeh> Can some one help me force mount my USB?
[23:53] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: The whole md5 check thing is confusing me..
[23:53] <cplusplus> whats that?
[23:53] <cplusplus> /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied.
[23:53] <cplusplus> root@gerald-desktop:~#
[23:53] <cplusplus> i am root
[23:53] <cplusplus> and chdir permisson denied?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: well you download the file and it can get malformed in transmission
[23:54] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: If I write at minimal speed?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: yes write at minimal speed
[23:54] <Stalker72> ActionParnsip: 2.4x is ok?
[23:54] <Stalker72> *ActionParsnip
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: the good image has been hashed,if the hash you calculate is different to the one in the md5 sum then its good
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Stalker72
[23:56] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: I read that earlier and it's confusing me.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: ok are you using 64bit or 32bit?
[23:56] <andypls1> guys i have a serious problem
[23:57] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: amd64 (64-bit)
[23:57] <andypls1> i updated my Nvidia drivers
[23:57] <andypls1> and  now the resolution of my screen is higher
[23:57] <andypls1> but i want a smaller one, like the one i had before
[23:57] <andypls1> so if i manually change the resolution
[23:57] <andypls1> the quality of the new resolution is not good
[23:57] <andypls1> :(
[23:58] <andypls1> i just want to see everything a little bit bigger, using the same resolution
[23:58] <andypls1> what should i do?
[23:59] <mrdigital> im trying to do the 8.10 live cd
[23:59] <mrdigital> it wont use my graphics card
[23:59] <mrdigital> it keeps giving me lines