[09:41] <wgrant> Is it intentional that branches for a project's development series are named lp:<project>/<series> outside their project page? Shouldn't it just be lp:<project>?
[09:43] <BasicOSX>  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[09:43] <BasicOSX> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[09:43] <BasicOSX> Thanks for your patience.
[09:44] <wgrant> BasicOSX: Where did you get that error?
[10:42] <danilos>  https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: danilos | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net
[12:14] <hennige> Just my luck - dev.launchpad.net seems to be offline. Do you know anything about that, danilos?
[12:15] <danilos> hennige: I just accidentally plugged the cord out of the socket, sorry, I'll plug it back in :)
[12:15] <hennige> danilos: please do that ;)
[12:18] <mrevell> hennige: I've asked IS to take a look. help.lp.net seems to be affected too
[12:24] <mrevell> The dev and help wikis are back online
[12:58] <theseinfeld> what is going on with launchpad that is so slow
[13:00] <theseinfeld> network timeout, the server bugs.launchpad.net is taking too long to respond...
[13:04] <papapep> hi! i've got a little problem that I would ask to you if there's a way to solve it...
[13:04] <papapep> launchpad related, of course
[13:05] <papapep> thanks: it seems I registered twice in launchpad, the first one I don't remember exactly when, and another one afterwoods, about two years ago.
[13:06] <papapep> now I've got two accounts, but the one active, the last one
[13:06] <papapep> has not exactly the name I want
[13:06] <nhandler> papapep: You can merge the accounts
[13:06] <papapep> wow! really?
[13:06] <papapep> how?
[13:07] <nhandler> One second, I'll get a link
[13:08] <wgrant> papapep: Note that you can also easily change your account's name.
[13:08] <nhandler> https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[13:08] <papapep> wgrant: well, not really, when I try to update the second account name, lauchpad
[13:08] <papapep> tells its occupied by another account (the first one...)
[13:09] <papapep> nhandler: thanks a lot, I'll try to do it
[13:09] <nhandler> :)
[13:11] <papapep> nhandler: another problem....I don't have the mail account that I entered in the first account, so I am not able to receive  the instructions ....
[13:11] <papapep> it seems I registered really a long time ago, the first time...as I don't have this mail account for ages
[13:11] <nhandler> papapep: Then I think a Launchpad admin will need to do it for you.
[13:11] <nhandler> But I'm not sure
[13:12] <papapep> perhaps sending a mail to feedback@launchpad.net?
[13:12] <papapep> or is there any admin here?
[13:13] <kiko> papapep, I can merge accounts for you
[13:13] <kiko> if that's what you need
[13:13] <kiko> what are the accounts
[13:14] <papapep> kiko: thanks!
[13:14] <papapep> papapep, and papapep-gmail
[13:14] <kiko> papapep, which one do you want to keep?
[13:15] <papapep> papapep-gmail, afterwoods I'll change its name to papapep :-)
[13:16] <kiko>     *   papapep@gmx.net
[13:16] <kiko> okidoki
[13:16] <kiko> papapep, done!
[13:16] <papapep> thanks a lot!
[13:16] <kiko> merging accounts is pretty cool
[13:16] <papapep> yes!
[13:16] <kiko> no problem, if you need anything else just ask
[13:20]  * wgrant suspects that LH needs a good kicking.
[13:24] <kiko> I hear somebody's going to work on LH next friday! :)
[13:24] <beuno> and thursday!
[13:24] <wgrant> And yesterday. Or was it the day before?
[13:25] <wgrant> LH isn't entirely dead, but it times out more often than not and never gives me anything more than the title when it does work.
[13:25] <kiko> that's the usual #launchpad trio's positive vibe I'm getting :)
[13:26] <Hobbsee> kiko-phone: glad to see that you keep getting what you expect.  Wouldn't want to disappoint, after all.
[13:27] <wgrant> No, no, I actually recall somebody lp-bzrish saying a day or two ago that he was going to work on it 'tomorrow'.
[13:27] <kiko-phone> they  have medication for the permanently depressed you know!!
[13:27] <kiko-phone> wgrant, maybe michael, but the plan is for a sprint (not a splint) next week in buenos aires
[13:27] <wgrant> Aha.
[13:27] <beuno> wgrant, mwhudson has been working on making LH and Apache get along better
[13:28] <wgrant> Hey, it works now. And it's quick. Excellent.
[13:28] <beuno> and, as kiko-phone mentioned, I have special guests next week!  :)
[13:28] <wgrant> beuno: Good to know.
[14:18] <kfogel> Can anyone translate this? http://linmagazine.co.il/enterprise/2009/01/16/launchpad-under-agpl
[14:18] <kfogel> (Is it just repeating what the English says, in Hebrew?)
[14:19] <vadi2> Launchpad today is awfully slow today (some actions don't even complete but get a network timeout). Is this known?
[14:19] <stdin> kfogel: http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Flinmagazine.co.il%2Fenterprise%2F2009%2F01%2F16%2Flaunchpad-under-agpl&sl=auto&tl=en
[14:20] <theseinfeld> vadi2 yes
[14:20] <theseinfeld> vadi2 and it sucks!
[14:20] <vadi2> yeah
[14:21] <theseinfeld> I've been fighting with it for the last 3 hours, almost...
[14:21] <theseinfeld> and there are many things that fail due to slow LP, like uscan to check upstream etc...
[14:21] <jpds> Some *.ubuntu.com sites are going slowly for me too, maybe someone's poking stuff in the DC.
[14:21] <theseinfeld> yeah, jpds, I also had issues with wiki today... didn't check all...
[14:22] <theseinfeld> might be related to alpha3? release yesterday?
[14:23] <Ng> there are no current undertakings in our datacentres
[14:24] <theseinfeld> so any valid explanation? I asked also in #launchpad-dev about this
[14:24] <danilos> theseinfeld, vadi2: Launchpad team is working to resolve the issues, we believe we know what the root cause is
[14:25] <vadi2> danilos: thank you
[14:25] <theseinfeld> thanks danilos
[14:25] <theseinfeld> hope is not DoS attack...
[14:29] <danilos> theseinfeld: no, it's actually a step in improving performance (increasing redundancy) that is causing us "slight" issues
[14:29] <danilos> theseinfeld: it's being actively worked on, afaik
[14:30] <kfogel> stdin: thanks.  heh, it translates "Canonical" as "Knonikal"
[14:30] <stdin> kfogel: yeah, I noticed that too
[14:43] <maxb> The last comment in bug 125103 implied signed ppas would be this week... maybe someone in the know could add a revised estimate?
[14:45] <danilos> maxb: next Launchpad release is scheduled for January 28th
[14:46] <danilos> maxb: oh, sorry, this is already released
[14:46] <maxb> If the information in the bug is to be believed, the code has already been released, and it's just the lack of key generation
[14:46] <danilos> maxb: and we do have signed PPAs afaik, let me check with teammates
[14:46] <maxb> Celso's PPA is signed. I think that's about it for now?
[14:47] <bigjools> right, we're waiting on some hardware with a random number generator so that there's enough entropy to sign all the PPAs
[14:48] <bigjools> it'll be ready when it's ready, I don't know any more
[14:49] <maxb> Would be great to have that in the bug comments, rather than an estimated date which is about to pass
[14:50] <savvas> random number generator ?
[14:51] <bigjools> yes, you need one to generate entropy
[14:52] <savvas> oh cool
[14:52] <savvas> wait.. the entropy I know has to do with energy and biometabolism :P
[14:53] <savvas> never mind, I'll search for it
[14:53] <nhandler> savvas: When you generate a key, you are told to move your mouse around and do stuff like that to make it more random. Same idea here
[14:53] <jgastal> danilos: Hi, I'm considering hosting my open source project on launchpad it however does not yet have some features I want, is there someplace where I can find info on what features are targeted for the 2.2.1 and subsequent releases?
[14:54] <savvas> nice hehe
[14:54] <jpds> I usually hit: ctrl, alt, shift keys.
[14:55] <danilos> jgastal: yeah, go to https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project and look at milestone pages (though, they are usually filled in only for one or two future milestones)
[14:55] <danilos> jgastal: for longer term planning, we've got some data on https://dev.launchpad.net/VersionThreeDotO as well
[14:56] <jgastal> danilos: thanks, I'll look at both of those
[14:57] <danilos> jgastal: btw, do you mind sharing what bits are missing for you to be able to use Launchpad?
[14:58] <savvas> nhandler: how much do such machines cost, out of curiosity?
[14:58] <jgastal> danilos: not at all, there is one thing that for me is crucial, that is not yet available, that is some form of document sharing, like being able to upload an image or a text file to a blueprint
[14:58] <nhandler> savvas: I have no idea.
[14:58] <savvas> ok
[14:58] <jgastal> danilos: another feature I would really like, but is not crucial is a project wiki.
[14:59] <jgastal> danilos: I see both are proposed in the blueprints section of launchpad itself so I'm hoping they are scheduled to be implemented soon
[14:59] <danilos> jgastal: ah, nice, both have been discussed over and over again, but nothing has been agreed on so far: since everybody is interested in those, it might happen sooner than anticipated, but it's hard to predict
[15:00] <danilos> jgastal: it would mean some reshuffling of priorities, so it's hard to say when (considering it's also not the simplest thing around to implement)
[15:01] <jgastal> danilos: Ah yes, I was about to ask what the issue might be. There is always a lack of developers. I imagine it would be quite cumbersome to implement that for something the size of launchpad.
[15:03] <jgastal> danilos: forgot to mention something else I would like but also not crucial(and probably dificult to implement) is a "help wanted" section, where projects could post what kind of help they are seeking.
[15:03] <danilos> jgastal: indeed, and everybody in the team would like to see that happen too :)
[15:04] <danilos> jgastal: yeah, that one is probably of low priority, which means not in the near future
[15:04] <danilos> low == lower than other stuff we mentioned here
[15:04] <danilos> :)
[15:04] <jgastal> danilos: that I imagined, but I guess being in launchpad might be enough to atract attention of people wanting to help so....
[15:04] <jgastal> hehe
[15:05] <jgastal> of courser we always want to add features, it is just not easy.
[15:05] <danilos> it's not that hard to add features, it's harder to keep them working with everything else :)
[15:07] <jgastal> well, thanks for the help. Got to go now.
[15:19] <ignas> hi
[15:19] <ignas> is there any open document on the internet that describes the way in which you are functionally testing launchpad?
[15:20] <ignas> I am interested in - how are you creating the in memory (i assume) testing databases
[15:20] <ignas> from what I know launchpad is using some kind of SQL database to store the data
[15:21] <danilos> ignas: I don't know of any, though we'll probably be making our internal documentation public in the next few months
[15:21] <danilos> ignas: it will show up on https://dev.launchpad.net/
[15:21] <ignas> danilos: can you at least tell me the principle?
[15:22] <ignas> danilos: like - are you using sqlite for testing and mysql for deployment
[15:22] <ignas> or setting up a mysql server for each checkout
[15:22] <danilos> ignas: no, database (postgres) is being used for testing as well
[15:22] <danilos> ignas: I haven't worked much on the testing infrastructure, so don't know much more
[15:22] <ignas> i see, are you setting up one for every checkout, or are developers just creating a "testing" database in their system postgress install
[15:23] <danilos> ignas: testing database is created by each developer on their own system (though it's done mostly automatically)
[15:24] <ignas> i see, so it's not "bzr branch + make run"  on a clean machine
[15:27] <danilos> ignas: no, initial set-up is a bit more involved
[15:28] <ignas> danilos: thanks for the info
[15:28] <ignas> I am trying to find out what is the industry standard for such a setup ;)
[15:35] <alf> Hello, I was wondering if someone knows what are the planned features regarding launchpad mailing lists.
[15:36] <alf> I am mostly interested in non-team member posting. There is some information scattered in wishlist reports
[15:36] <alf> but nothing about what is actually planned.
[15:38] <danilos> barry: <alf> Hello, I was wondering if someone knows what are the planned features regarding launchpad mailing lists.
[15:38] <danilos>  I am mostly interested in non-team member posting. There is some information scattered in wishlist reports
[15:38] <danilos>  but nothing about what is actually planned.
[15:38] <danilos> alf: just pasting question for barry who just joined and might know the answer :)
[15:38] <alf> danilos: ok, thanks!
[15:39] <barry> alf: non-team members can post to mailing lists today.  the first time you do so, your message will be held for approval.  once approved, you can post freely to that list.  if you get approved on 3 different lists, we consider you a lp member "in good standing" and you can then post to any mailing list freely
[15:40] <barry> alf: is that what you're looking for or something more specific?
[15:43] <alf> barry: I assume that if you are approved, you are approved just as a poster (not as a team member)?
[15:43] <barry> alf: correct
[15:43] <barry> alf: and specifically, you are not subscribed to the ml, meaning you will not get responses if people don't explicitly cc you
[15:44] <barry> alf: our wishlist includes a nosy feature, but that is currently unscheduled
[15:45] <alf> barry: Actually I think I may be looking for such a nosy feature (namely subscribing to a mailing list) without becoming a team member
[15:46] <alf> barry: eg the project-dev team/mailing list
[15:46] <barry> alf: the nosy feature would only "subscribe" you to threads you've started or responded to (the latter which is a bit difficult until we put up an imap or nntp backend)
[15:47] <alf> barry: ok, what about the feature I described above?
[18:24] <cr3> how can I delete a series?
[18:24] <beuno> cr3, you can't currently, it's being worked on
[18:26] <cr3> can an LP administrator please delete this series for me: https://edge.launchpad.net/checkbox/0.3
[18:26] <beuno> bdmurray, ping
[18:27] <beuno> cr3, you'd have to file a question in: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[18:29] <cr3> beuno: done, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/57719
[18:30] <bdmurray> beuno: pong
[18:31] <beuno> bdmurray, re: bug #317950
[18:31] <beuno> is this the URL that makes you download it:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/launchpad-gm-scripts/master/annotate/head%3A/lp_question_comment.user.js  ?
[18:32] <bdmurray> beuno: yes it is
[18:33] <beuno> bdmurray, that's *very* odd, it doesn't for me  (or anything in the code)
[18:33] <bdmurray> beuno: do you have greasemonkey installed?
[18:34] <beuno> bdmurray, I don't
[18:34] <bdmurray> beuno: that is probably why then, I mention it because it used to work.  What did the url used to be?
[18:35] <beuno> bdmurray, the revision id instead of the filename
[18:36] <beuno> er, no
[18:36] <beuno> one sec
[18:38] <beuno> ok, you used to have the revid instead of head:
[18:38] <beuno> and the fileid instead of the filename
[18:39] <beuno> bdmurray, so maybe greasemonkey things that since the URL is the filename, it's suppose to download it?
[18:39] <beuno> it sure didn't end in  *.js
[18:40] <bdmurray> beuno: yes, I agree it is because of the URL ending in the filename
[18:42] <beuno> bdmurray, there's not much I can do about it, since the URL change was explicit so URLs where predicitable
[18:49] <bdmurray> beuno: okay, that makes sense to me
[18:49] <beuno> bdmurray, so are you ok if I mark the bug as "Won't Fix" or "Invalid"?   whatever hurst your feelings less  :)
[18:53] <bdmurray> beuno: Yes, I'm okay with either
[20:54] <Nafallo> hi
[20:55] <Nafallo> could someone take a look and review those please: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/screen-profiles/+imports