| nhandler | Chris`: What part didn't work, they look pretty accurate | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Chris` | Under method: sf.net/grdc doesn't exist | 00:00 |
| Chris` | It's a sf project however | 00:00 |
| nhandler | Where does it say sf.net/grdc? | 00:01 |
| nhandler | I see sf.net/mooedit | 00:01 |
| Chris` | My project is grdc | 00:01 |
| nhandler | Chris`: sf.net/grdc won't work in a browser. Did it work in the watch file? | 00:02 |
| Chris` | Nope | 00:03 |
| pochu | try "uscan --verbose" from debian/.. | 00:03 |
| Chris` | http://pastebin.com/d6cdb14a | 00:03 |
| * directhex uses mirrorservice for sf projects, it's more reliable | 00:03 | |
| pochu | Chris`: http://sourceforge.net/projects/grcd, invalid project | 00:04 |
| Chris` | http://sourceforge.net/projects/grdc <----- Works for me =\ | 00:04 |
| pochu | ah, I typoed it | 00:05 |
| Chris` | Anyway I've fixed it but I don't find that guide too user friendly | 00:05 |
| pochu | feel free to improve it :) | 00:05 |
| nhandler | Chris`: Look at some of the irc logs from past Open Weeks and Developer Weeks. I think we had a few guides that covered watch files | 00:06 |
| Chris` | Now I'm tasked with a manpage, again, the wiki wasn't much help do you know for any other resources? =\ The wiki was far too confusing | 00:06 |
| Chris` | When writing manpages should I use American or British English? | 00:23 |
| jmarsden|work | Chris`: Either one, but avoid obvious Americanisms or Britishisms -- you are writing for an international audience. | 00:26 |
| Chris` | How can I use the word utilise? | 00:27 |
| jmarsden|work | Maybe use the word use instead? :) | 00:27 |
| Chris` | Too boring but OK | 00:27 |
| jmarsden|work | The simpler the language you use the easier you make translation into other languages, too. | 00:28 |
| Chris` | You can get French manpages? | 00:28 |
| jmarsden|work | Sure. | 00:28 |
| Chris` | Cool well I just authored a file called debian/manpage | 00:29 |
| Chris` | What should I save it as when using pod formatting? | 00:29 |
| jmarsden|work | I'm not sure... I've only ever used pod format within a Perl script... | 00:29 |
| jmarsden|work | Is there anything in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide about different documentation formats?? | 00:32 |
| jmarsden|work | Might be worth a look, anyway. | 00:32 |
| Chris` | I think that I have finally finished that binary :D | 00:34 |
| nhandler | This is really annoying. For some reason, ever since I went back to intrepid, I can no longer create a jaunty pbuilder. I have tried several times, but it always complains about not being able to resolve archive.ubuntu.com. Anyone have any ideas? | 00:35 |
| Chris` | If anyone has the time could you please revu/review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc for me please? :) | 00:36 |
| directhex | Chris`, avoid cockney rhyming slang in man pages, that's good advice | 00:42 |
| Chris` | directhex: I used Cockney? | 00:42 |
| * Chris` double checks | 00:43 | |
| directhex | nah, just following on from "<jmarsden|work> Chris`: Either one, but avoid obvious Americanisms or Britishisms -- you are writing for an international audience." | 00:43 |
| Chris` | Ah ok :p | 00:43 |
| directhex | in a faintly humerous mann... know what? never mind. it's late | 00:43 |
| Chris` | Faily humourous man...page :)? | 00:43 |
| Chris` | Ah damn, I forgot a little tiny thing | 00:44 |
| Chris` | Gotta reupload | 00:44 |
| Chris` | Upload finished if anyone wants to revu my package :) | 00:46 |
| Andre_Gondim | does any motu can resolve this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deluge-torrent/+bug/316305 | 01:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316305 in deluge-torrent "please sync to deluge 1.1.0" [Undecided,In progress] | 01:22 |
| pwnguin | ive got a question about mono apps | 03:30 |
| RAOF | Shoot. | 03:30 |
| pwnguin | i assume they need to build in debian to be in the archive? | 03:30 |
| pwnguin | even though published builds are cross platform | 03:31 |
| RAOF | Ah, _that's_ what you mean. | 03:31 |
| RAOF | Yes, very much so. Everything in the archive needs to build from source, barring multiverse. | 03:31 |
| pwnguin | do you know much about mono apps? | 03:31 |
| pwnguin | ie paint.net? | 03:32 |
| RAOF | A bit. | 03:32 |
| cody-somerville | RAOF, everything needs to be built from a source package, including multiverse | 03:32 |
| pwnguin | cody-somerville: then you'll remove pq? | 03:32 |
| RAOF | cody-somerville: Are you _sure_? A source package, yes, but that source package can just copy binaires in place, right? | 03:32 |
| cody-somerville | RAOF, Right | 03:32 |
| pwnguin | well duh | 03:33 |
| === leleobhz is now known as LOLeobhz | ||
| RAOF | pwnguin: Paint.net isn't _really_ a mono app; it p/invokes a bunch of windows stuff, IIRC. | 03:33 |
| pwnguin | RAOF: it seems we have a windows forms library | 03:33 |
| cody-somerville | However, by that definition, you would say barring multiverse and restricted | 03:33 |
| pwnguin | which i thought meant ms only | 03:33 |
| RAOF | No. | 03:33 |
| pwnguin | but apparently not | 03:33 |
| pwnguin | RAOF: does paint.net go above and beyond winForms then? | 03:34 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 03:34 |
| jorgenpt | I read that one guy ported Paint.net to *nix | 03:34 |
| pwnguin | heh | 03:34 |
| pwnguin | that one guy is probably the mono author | 03:34 |
| pwnguin | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/May-15-1.html | 03:34 |
| jorgenpt | Yes, possibly this one; http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/May-15-1.html | 03:34 |
| === LOLeobhz is now known as leleobhz | ||
| jorgenpt | But it wasn't public when I read about it. ^_^ | 03:34 |
| RAOF | One of the awesome things about the .NET runtime is how tremendously easy it is to call C libraries; Paint.NET does it for some stuff - calling out to native win32 libs. | 03:35 |
| RAOF | That's p/invoke. | 03:35 |
| jorgenpt | Is Paint.Net opensource? | 03:35 |
| pwnguin | yea | 03:35 |
| RAOF | Yes, I believe so. | 03:35 |
| === hyperair1 is now known as hyperair | ||
| pwnguin | its like the only open source c# app ;) | 03:35 |
| pwnguin | anyways | 03:36 |
| pwnguin | keepass 2.x seems to work fine in jaunty | 03:36 |
| jorgenpt | Paint.Net was open source until version 3.2, but has been closed since then. | 03:37 |
| jorgenpt | Hm. | 03:37 |
| pwnguin | heh | 03:37 |
| RAOF | pwnguin: That was sarcasm, right? | 03:37 |
| pwnguin | RAOF: yes | 03:37 |
| pwnguin | well, keepass works | 03:37 |
| RAOF | Good. Difficult to tell on IRC :) | 03:37 |
| pwnguin | but the c# part was sarcastic | 03:37 |
| pwnguin | hence the ;) | 03:37 |
| pwnguin | anyways, there's no keepass package yet. if i can figure out how to build from source | 03:39 |
| pwnguin | it'd be nifty to have that in jaunty as well | 03:39 |
| RAOF | What's keepass? | 03:39 |
| pwnguin | its a cross platform keyring, really | 03:40 |
| pwnguin | you can put passwords etc in it | 03:40 |
| pwnguin | the benefit is that unlike say gnome-keyring, i can put credentials in a database and share them with my coworkers | 03:41 |
| pwnguin | right now we have a stupid pgp encrypted file | 03:41 |
| pwnguin | that lists notes, account names and passwords | 03:42 |
| pwnguin | keepass basically formalizes this practice | 03:42 |
| jorgenpt | Õ.o | 03:43 |
| pwnguin | anyways, getting it into jaunty would probably help convince my team to adopt it | 03:43 |
| pwnguin | one of my problems is i have no idea how to build mono apps though =/ | 03:45 |
| * pochu didn't get the difference between gnome-keyring and keepass | 03:45 | |
| pwnguin | keepass runs on windows and osx | 03:45 |
| pochu | yeah, I mean the credentials and database you mentioned :) | 03:46 |
| RAOF | pwnguin: Generally pretty simple, depending on how friendly they are. | 03:47 |
| pochu | gnome-keyring is just a key manager, but you can encrypt/decrypt/sign/etc files from nautilus | 03:47 |
| pochu | it's well integrated | 03:47 |
| pwnguin | pochu: can i add notes? | 03:47 |
| nellery | isn't keepass already in Jaunty? http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/keepassx | 03:47 |
| pwnguin | keepassX is different | 03:47 |
| pochu | to gnome-keyring? no, it's a keyring manager, use tomboy for that ;) | 03:47 |
| nellery | ah | 03:48 |
| pwnguin | its something like a fork of the old, non .net code base | 03:48 |
| pochu | pwnguin: oh, I thought you were comparing them as if they were similar apps, and saying which one was better :) | 03:48 |
| pwnguin | pochu: gnome keyring does what it does well | 03:49 |
| pwnguin | it just lacks sync and cross plaformness | 03:49 |
| pochu | I see | 03:49 |
| pwnguin | i got a job as a system administrator recently, and we basically do everything | 03:50 |
| pwnguin | in parallel. | 03:50 |
| pwnguin | windows, osx, solaris, linux | 03:50 |
| pochu | with gnome-keyring you can synchronise keys with a keyserver, but I guess that's not what you want :) | 03:51 |
| pwnguin | we need more than rsa encryption keys | 03:51 |
| pwnguin | pochu: in jaunty, there's a gui, that has "passwords" | 03:53 |
| pwnguin | pochu: do you know a way to actually add such a password? | 03:53 |
| pochu | wait, I was confusing seahorse and gnome-keyring! | 03:53 |
| pwnguin | seahorse, the browser? | 03:54 |
| pochu | no, the key manager | 03:54 |
| pochu | actually, the old gnome-keyring has been integrated into seahorse | 03:55 |
| pochu | that's probably the gui you're talking about | 03:55 |
| pochu | which has a passwords tab | 03:55 |
| pwnguin | yes it does | 03:55 |
| pwnguin | the tab doesn't seem to work though | 03:55 |
| pochu | it does here | 03:57 |
| pochu | and I have a few passwords | 03:57 |
| pochu | the root password and mail account passwords for evolution | 03:58 |
| pwnguin | i cant add new ones though =/ | 04:00 |
| pochu | yeah, I don't see how to add new ones from seahorse itself | 04:02 |
| pochu | you can from applications that use gnome-keyring though | 04:02 |
| pochu | e.g. if you create a mail account in Evolution, it will ask you if you want to store it in the keyring | 04:02 |
| pwnguin | pochu: right, but if i wanted to say store a login for a windows box | 04:03 |
| pochu | I see | 04:03 |
| pwnguin | someone would have to bother patching tsclient | 04:04 |
| pochu | so your use case is that you don't want gnome-keyring for access some applications that use it, but rather to store securily a set of passwords | 04:04 |
| pwnguin | indeed | 04:04 |
| pwnguin | its a popular use case | 04:04 |
| pochu | yeah | 04:04 |
| pwnguin | someone was saying keepass is in the top 10 sf projects | 04:05 |
| pwnguin | well, its in the top 50 right now | 04:05 |
| pwnguin | pochu: but my use case also involves sharing those secrets with a limited set of people, who might not be running linux / ubuntu | 04:06 |
| pwnguin | i don't think the guy in charge of admining the windows class servers is about to accept "run GNOME" as a solution | 04:07 |
| pochu | pwnguin: looks like there's an API to gnome-keyring to add passwords, so it would be a matter of extending Seahorse to allow that: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/StoringPasswords | 04:07 |
| pochu | yet, that wouldn't solve your other problem... | 04:08 |
| pwnguin | pochu: im sure. but unless it uses schnier's format underneath and didnt tell anyone | 04:08 |
| pwnguin | its yet another incompatible tool | 04:08 |
| pwnguin | there's another program called password safe, started by bruce schnieier, with a documented format. password gorilla uses it | 04:11 |
| pwnguin | but sync isn't handled | 04:11 |
| pochu | pwnguin: aha! http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525832 | 04:12 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 525832 in general "allow creation of arbitrary passwords" [Enhancement,New] | 04:12 |
| trinitronx | I'm getting an issue with "debuild -S" where it trys to sign with the original package maintainer's gpg key. This is even when I have specified mine with -k, and also DEBSIGN_KEYID, DEBEMAIL, & DEBFULLNAME in my ~/.bashrc. I'm just making a quick source package for personal use, so I don't want to have to edit the debian/control or changelog files... is this possible? | 04:30 |
| RAOF__ | You can just leave the package unsigned; pass -us -uc to debuild, and it won't try to sign the source, changes respectively. | 04:31 |
| pochu | nice netsplit :) | 04:31 |
| pochu | trinitronx: what did you pass as -k ? | 04:31 |
| trinitronx | my key id | 04:31 |
| pochu | as in "dpkg-buildpackage -k4A08B2FE" ? | 04:32 |
| trinitronx | s/dpkg-buildpackage/debuild/ | 04:32 |
| trinitronx | does debuild pass -k through? | 04:32 |
| pochu | if you put it at the end of the call, it will pass everything to dpkg-buildpackage | 04:33 |
| pochu | SYNOPSIS debuild [debuild options] [dpkg-buildpackage options] [--lintian-opts lintian options] | 04:33 |
| trinitronx | hmm, maybe I should try at the end? | 04:33 |
| pochu | try it :) | 04:33 |
| pochu | and try it before -S too | 04:34 |
| pochu | I've seen dpkg-buildpackage fail sometimes if the arguments were in a certain order | 04:35 |
| pochu | e.g. dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -us -uc would sign things, while -us -uc -S -sa wouldn't | 04:35 |
| trinitronx | woohoo! it worked at the end :D | 04:35 |
| pochu | :) | 04:35 |
| trinitronx | I think I'll try changing my DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS to have that at the end too | 04:36 |
| pochu | btw as RAOF said, you can just pass -us -uc to not sign it at all | 04:38 |
| trinitronx | yeah, I like signing stuff though just for practice | 04:38 |
| trinitronx | and to make sure it works ok | 04:38 |
| pwnguin | RAOF: i see a lot of .csproj files in this thing. i assume this is visual studio? | 05:23 |
| RAOF__ | pwnguin: yah. But I think mdtool should be able to build it for you. | 05:26 |
| tritium | Hello. It has been a while since I've built a package. I used to use pbuilder, but it seems working/testing in a virtual machine, and building with a PPA is valid approach today. Is that a fair assessment? | 05:40 |
| tritium | I'm hoping to package the new version of ngspice, as well as hdhomerun_config_gui prior to feature freeze. | 05:41 |
| pochu | tritium: PPA is fine, VM not so much | 05:45 |
| tritium | pochu: not so much for what? building? testing? | 05:45 |
| pochu | building | 05:45 |
| pochu | for testing it's perfectly fine | 05:45 |
| tritium | Fair enough. I don't intend to use it for building. Thanks! | 05:46 |
| pochu | welcome :) | 05:46 |
| tritium | pochu: well, alpha 3's kernel won't boot as a virtualbox guest, so perhaps I'll consider another approach. | 05:48 |
| pochu | tritium: try with alpha 2 ;) | 05:48 |
| tritium | I see the same caveat for alpha 2: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha2 (bug 243677) | 05:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 243677 in kvm "intrepid kernel 2.6.26-2-generic won't boot as kvm guest" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243677 | 05:50 |
| tritium | Sorry, but 246067 | 05:50 |
| tritium | s/but/bug | 05:50 |
| tritium | bug 246067 | 05:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot in VirtualBox with kernel 2.6.26.*-generic" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246067 | 05:51 |
| pochu | I have a jaunty VM, but I think I installed it from alpha1 | 05:51 |
| pochu | or a daily image, rather | 05:52 |
| pochu | ~/.VirtualBox/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso | 05:52 |
| pochu | but it won't be available on cdimage.u.c anymore, as it's a bit old ;) | 05:52 |
| tritium | :) | 05:54 |
| tritium | Perhaps I'll not worry about the VM for now, and just worry about building the packages. | 05:55 |
| pochu | that's a good start :) | 05:55 |
| tritium | Thanks again! | 05:55 |
| === Halph is now known as coppro | ||
| pwnguin | RAOF__: is mdtool part of a package? | 06:01 |
| pwnguin | ah | 06:01 |
| pwnguin | monodevelop nvm | 06:01 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:25 |
| fabrice_sp | morning dholbach ! | 06:29 |
| iulian | Morning dholbach, fabrice_sp. | 06:30 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi iulian :-) | 06:30 |
| iulian | How's it going guys? | 06:30 |
| dholbach | hiya iulian, hi fabrice_sp | 06:31 |
| dholbach | iulian: very good, just waiting for the coffee to be ready :) | 06:31 |
| fabrice_sp | iulian, very good too: it's friday! :-) (and waiting for the chocolate :-) ) | 06:32 |
| iulian | Heh, that's good. | 06:33 |
| * pochu waves good morning | 06:33 | |
| iulian | Hiya pochu. | 06:33 |
| dholbach | hey pochu | 06:33 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi pochu ;-) | 06:33 |
| * iulian yawns | 06:33 | |
| pochu | hey iulian, dholbach and fabrice_sp :) | 06:33 |
| tritium | Good morning, dholbach. | 06:33 |
| dholbach | hey tritium | 06:34 |
| * pochu just read his motu application again | 06:34 | |
| pochu | nice memories :) | 06:35 |
| ScottK | Good morning dholbach | 06:35 |
| dholbach | hey scottK | 06:35 |
| pochu | hiya ScottK | 06:36 |
| pochu | iulian: BTW, congrats for your MOTU-ship! :-) | 06:36 |
| ScottK | heya pochu. | 06:36 |
| iulian | pochu: Thanks ;) | 06:40 |
| slytherin | any python gurus here? | 07:03 |
| liw | slytherin, perhaps | 07:05 |
| liw | slytherin, but us non-gurus might be able to help you too | 07:06 |
| slytherin | I want to write a simple python script which downloads files from a site based on certain parameters. Also the site uses http basic authentication. What modules should I look into? | 07:09 |
| trinitronx | i don't know python... but I do know curl should be able to do that. Look for a python curl module? | 07:11 |
| liw | slytherin, from file:///usr/share/doc/python2.5/html/lib/index.html I would suggest urllib2 as a starting point | 07:11 |
| slytherin | liw: ok. looking into that. | 07:12 |
| lynxie | how do i cleartext sign the ucoc using a key different of the default one, gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt automatically uses the default | 07:26 |
| lynxie | am i overlooking it in the man page? | 07:27 |
| slytherin | lynxie: look for an option key-id | 07:31 |
| === hyperair1 is now known as hyperair | ||
| lynxie | slytherin, thanks, it turned out to be gpg --default-key id --etc. | 07:35 |
| didrocks | morning | 07:36 |
| didrocks | dholbach: happy birthday :) | 07:37 |
| quadrispro | thank you dholbach ;) | 07:45 |
| iulian | Hmm, birthday? | 07:50 |
| iulian | Yay! | 07:50 |
| iulian | Happy Birthday dholbach! | 07:51 |
| * iulian has just seen planet ubuntu. | 07:51 | |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: apparantly, alles gute zum geburtstag! | 07:55 |
| pochu | dholbach: happy birthday :) | 07:59 |
| dholbach | didrocks, iulian, stefanlsd, pochu: THANKS A LOT GUYS | 08:00 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: good german! :) | 08:00 |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: haha. i am taking german lessons. | 08:00 |
| * dholbach hugs y'all | 08:00 | |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: how does it go? :) | 08:01 |
| * pochu is taking the TOEFL tomorrow | 08:01 | |
| pochu | and my English sucks :( | 08:01 |
| dholbach | pochu: no it doesn't - I'm sure it'll work out well! | 08:02 |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: umm. brauchbar. sprechen is leicther as schreiben. my grammer is terrible! | 08:02 |
| stefanlsd | ist / als | 08:02 |
| stefanlsd | heh | 08:02 |
| stefanlsd | and spelling for that matter | 08:02 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: German grammar is a bitch :-/ | 08:02 |
| pochu | I hope so :) at least I need to obtain more than 70 out of 120... the requirement could be worse :) | 08:02 |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: yeah. i always thought native german speakers are lucky that they just get it, but i was thinking bout learning english, and im not sure i would want to do that either. | 08:03 |
| stefanlsd | soo, whats the birthday plans?? | 08:03 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: whenever somebody says "hey, I'm learning German" I have to stifle a "you have my sympathies" :) | 08:04 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: I think this will be the first time where I move my birthday party into summer - I really couldn't get myself to organise a party this time when it's freezing outside :) | 08:04 |
| dholbach | so in summer, I'd like to have a big party with barbecue-ing in one of Berlin's parks ... or something like that | 08:05 |
| dholbach | (that won't keep me from going out tonight though :-)) | 08:05 |
| didrocks | <dholbach> stefanlsd: whenever somebody says "hey, I'm learning German" I have to stifle a "you have my sympathies" :) -> that's why, even after 6 years of German learning, my level is so bad :/ | 08:06 |
| stefanlsd | didrocks: yeah, gotta practice.. | 08:06 |
| didrocks | stefanlsd: thinks it's too late, 5 years without practicing... | 08:07 |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: mm. cool. u gotta let us all know. i wanna go visit germany sometime soon again | 08:07 |
| dholbach | didrocks: ask Seb - he learned it in school for like 23 years (I might be exaggerating), but he does not speak German very well :) | 08:07 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: let me know when you make it to Berlin :) | 08:07 |
| * dholbach won't repeat the one sentence Seb liked saying a lot in here :) | 08:08 | |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: was in nuremberg last time. was awesome. will def visit berlin thou. | 08:08 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: nice... although both are very different :) | 08:08 |
| didrocks | dholbach: you have to repeat it. you told too much or not enough :) | 08:08 |
| dholbach | didrocks: ask him about his favorite german sentence | 08:09 |
| didrocks | dholbach: ok, I will ^^ | 08:09 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: do you know of any plans of the ZA loco participating in the Global Bug Jam? | 08:23 |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: no fixed plans atm, but i did bring it up in the channel yesterday about holding one in johannesburg. i'll get something going | 08:24 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: you ROCK | 08:25 |
| dholbach | that's awesome! | 08:25 |
| DktrKranz | dholbach: we had a "demo" one in december, just to see how to organize a wider one, we plan to have another one soon, probably we can partecipate in the global bug jam too | 08:26 |
| dholbach | DktrKranz: that's excellent! | 08:27 |
| dholbach | DktrKranz: where are you going to have it? | 08:28 |
| siretart | mr_pouit: fixed avidemux uploaded, current dep-waited on your x264 upload (which is in NEW) | 08:28 |
| siretart | hi dholbach! | 08:28 |
| dholbach | hi siretart | 08:28 |
| DktrKranz | dholbach: probably at University of Boulogne | 08:28 |
| DktrKranz | there are some DDs living there, they could lend a hand too | 08:29 |
| dholbach | nice | 08:29 |
| DktrKranz | so, we can squash some RCs too :) | 08:29 |
| dholbach | :) | 08:29 |
| slytherin | liw: any idea how can I download a certain file using urllib2? I could not find any method that talks about saving data form the url. | 08:50 |
| dholbach | slytherin: urllib.urlretrieve? | 08:50 |
| slytherin | dholbach: is that method present in urllib2 as well? | 08:51 |
| dholbach | oh, it's not | 08:51 |
| liw | slytherin, urlopen gives you a file-like object, so you can use its read method to read the entire contents of the page | 08:52 |
| liw | slytherin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/105464/ | 08:52 |
| slytherin | liw: right, but then I will need another handler to save it to a local file. | 08:53 |
| liw | sure | 08:53 |
| liw | that's easy, though | 08:53 |
| dholbach | import urllib2; f = open("content", "w"); f.write(urllib2.urlopen("http://www.ubuntu.com").read()); f.close() | 08:53 |
| dholbach | or some such | 08:54 |
| slytherin | dholbach: hmm , let me try. | 08:54 |
| liw | that's one way of doing it, though I prefer to split stuff into simpler statements, so that _when_ there is a problem, it's clear what part causes it | 08:55 |
| liw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/105466/ | 08:55 |
| dholbach | slytherin: listen to liw - he has clearly debugged more code than I did :) | 08:55 |
| directhex | dholbach, is there anywhere i should be telling people what they'll need for me & meebey's session next week? | 08:57 |
| dholbach | directhex: what do you mean? like preparation the audience needs to do? | 08:58 |
| dholbach | directhex: or a mail from me explaining what's going to be going on? | 08:58 |
| dholbach | (for the presenters) | 08:58 |
| directhex | dholbach, in terms of "have a jaunty chroot with mono-devel" so no time is wasted installing it | 08:58 |
| dholbach | directhex: if you could create a small page with instructions at UbuntuDeveloperWeek/MonoPreparation I'll link to it from various places and announce it | 09:00 |
| slytherin | liw: that worked for text file at least. Now I have to check if t works for binary files. | 09:02 |
| stefanlsd | dholbach: http://wiki.ubuntu-za.org/GlobalBugJam - i also posted to the list | 09:05 |
| dholbach | stefanlsd: nice | 09:06 |
| dholbach | now you just need to add yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam too :) | 09:06 |
| stefanlsd | kk :) | 09:07 |
| highvoltage | stefanlsd ftw | 09:12 |
| stefanlsd | highvoltage: heys! you gonna be around for the jam? | 09:17 |
| highvoltage | stefanlsd: I'm not sure. I'd like to be there, I'm in Cape Town for most of feb | 09:17 |
| stefanlsd | highvoltage: ooh. then we have a cape town one also :P | 09:17 |
| mok0 | Today is REVU day! | 09:17 |
| mok0 | We have > 100 packages waiting for review! | 09:18 |
| highvoltage | stefanlsd: not a bad idea... I'm not sure how to host one though | 09:18 |
| stefanlsd | highvoltage: there's a wiki page on it, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam | 09:18 |
| stefanlsd | highvoltage: also, check out the bugsquad pages. it doesnt need to be technical at all | 09:19 |
| stefanlsd | highvoltage: ordinary people reporting bugs, confirming bugs, traiging bugs, finding out more information bout bugs | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | stefanlsd: awesome. perhaps I can do it as part of a clug meeting. I'll see where I am at that stage and then we can do it close to the same time | 09:20 |
| stefanlsd | highvoltage: kk. is sometime between the 20-22 feb | 09:21 |
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| highvoltage | stefanlsd: ok, that won't work for a clug talk, but I'll get them involved anyway. I think the saturday will work best there | 09:23 |
| stefanlsd | highvoltage: cool. see who u can grab, and maybe see if CT has any interest. can be as simple as meeting at a coffee shop and just hacking away | 09:24 |
| highvoltage | stefanlsd: ok, cool | 09:24 |
| Elbrus | Does anybody know a simple way of telling which files are loaded by an application? I think I am missing a dependency in my package winff (BTS 511505) but don't know how to find it. (winff is needs X11, I don't know how to use a chroot to test it) Any ideas? | 10:06 |
| persia | Elbrus, lsof can tell you which files a process has open, and strace can tell you which files are opened during a run. | 10:09 |
| Elbrus | persia: thanks | 10:10 |
| persia | Elbrus, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566 describes how to run an X program in a schroot. | 10:10 |
| persia | Hrm. xhost + doesn't seem best though :( | 10:11 |
| directhex | i resort to Xnest | 10:32 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| * mok0 reviews bcv4 | 10:52 | |
| dholbach | sebner, apachelogger: do you know of any plans of the Austrian mafia to participate in the Global Bug Jam? | 11:06 |
| mok0 | Is the mafia going to the bug jam? | 11:08 |
| mok0 | *shudder* | 11:08 |
| dholbach | mok0: there's nothing about "making offers that you can not refuse" in the CoC ;-) | 11:09 |
| mok0 | :-) hehe | 11:09 |
| mok0 | "This bug.... it's business. Not personal" | 11:10 |
| dholbach | hehe, exactly | 11:10 |
| dholbach | not sure what our Italian friends in the channel think about it :) | 11:11 |
| mok0 | They're busy skateboarding around the sewers... | 11:11 |
| * mok0 reviews ultrastardx | 11:22 | |
| mib_dkvv32kr | hi | 11:44 |
| === mib_dkvv32kr is now known as shankhs | ||
| shankhs | I am new to all this developing stuff Can you please suggest me some tutorial or something to begin with...(i know c/c++) | 11:46 |
| liw | shankhs, have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu ? | 11:48 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| james_w | urgh, using "locate" in configure to find the headers it needs | 17:28 |
| === jmarsden__ is now known as jmarsden|work | ||
| Chris` | When someone has the time, can you please review my first 2 packages to REVU: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc-gnome & http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc | 17:32 |
| Chris` | Hello are there any MOTUs available for a review of my packages? | 17:52 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi Chris. I'm not a MOTU, but I can have a look at your package | 17:54 |
| fabrice_sp | Chris`, | 17:54 |
| Chris` | You are able to review or just give out pointers? :) | 17:54 |
| fabrice_sp | I'm able to review | 17:54 |
| Chris` | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc-gnome & http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc | 17:54 |
| fabrice_sp | just give me the url | 17:54 |
| fabrice_sp | ok | 17:54 |
| Chris` | One is reliant on the other one | 17:55 |
| fabrice_sp | which one is first? | 17:55 |
| fabrice_sp | grdc? | 17:55 |
| Chris` | grdc is the first | 17:55 |
| Chris` | Yeah | 17:55 |
| fabrice_sp | ok | 17:55 |
| fabrice_sp | I'll begin with this one | 17:55 |
| Chris` | goodluck :) | 17:56 |
| fabrice_sp | :-) | 17:56 |
| * Chris` knows when he is in the company of geeks, most of us insist on using the -'s :P | 17:57 | |
| jreinhardt | Hi everybody. Can someone please review my package of pgfplots: | 18:17 |
| jreinhardt | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pgfplots | 18:17 |
| jreinhardt | I addressed all mentioned issues. But if someone could check whether I got the watch file and the tex stuff right, I would be thankful. | 18:17 |
| fabrice_sp_ | Chris`, I've been able to have a look before I left (compiles fast! :-) ) to grdc: it looks very good!. I just put some comments | 18:18 |
| fabrice_sp_ | Chris`, nice job! I'll have a look at the other one when back. CU | 18:19 |
| Chris` | fabrice_sp: Great thanks :) | 18:19 |
| Chris` | See ya | 18:19 |
| === paul__ is now known as Elbrus | ||
| RainCT | bobbo: REVU has a ubiquity command (which is broken right now, but well :P). perhaps you want to add to the ubuntu/LP thing you say you're working on | 18:51 |
| bobbo | RainCT: have you got a link? | 18:51 |
| RainCT | bobbo: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ubiquity-plugin.py | 18:52 |
| bobbo | RainCT: I'm yet to talk to Jorge about getting it properly "started", but something should be happening "properly" soonish | 18:52 |
| bobbo | RainCT: having a look now :) | 18:54 |
| albuntu | hello to all | 19:11 |
| albuntu | hello to all | 19:11 |
| albuntu | i wanted to ask if someone can help me on how to edit the gnome panel via terminal | 19:12 |
| Chris` | albuntu: I think you're more likely to get answers over in #ubuntu rather than #ubuntu-motu | 19:13 |
| albuntu | Chris`: ok sorry. i tried there but i got no response | 19:14 |
| albuntu | anyways thank you | 19:14 |
| Chris` | albuntu: What are you trying to alter anyway? | 19:14 |
| albuntu | the gnome-panel | 19:15 |
| Chris` | What part of it? | 19:15 |
| laga | i just said "rotfl" out loud. help | 19:15 |
| albuntu | i am looking i want to edit its position | 19:15 |
| albuntu | and some things inside | 19:15 |
| albuntu | like putting menus plasces and system in applications | 19:16 |
| quadrispro | RainCT: hi! http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=4516 | 19:16 |
| quadrispro | going away, bye :) | 19:16 |
| Chris` | albuntu: I'm not sure about the terminal command however you could try System > Preferences > Main Menu | 19:16 |
| albuntu | i know that but i wanted to edit it from terminal. thank you anyways :) | 19:17 |
| ScottK | !because | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about because | 19:17 |
| ScottK | Anyone around who can teach the bot? | 19:17 |
| RainCT | ScottK: I guess you'll find someone in #ubuntu-ops | 19:20 |
| ScottK | Thanks. Trying. | 19:21 |
| Chris` | Any reviewers out there? :) | 19:21 |
| * ScottK tosses RainCT in Chris`s direction. | 19:22 | |
| Chris` | Diolch ScottK | 19:22 |
| * RainCT tells ScottK that mok0 is about to beat him in the Top Commenters :P | 19:22 | |
| * ScottK is trying to get $WORK done. | 19:23 | |
| Chris` | Well, when a reviewer is free, I've got two packages that I'd really like reviewed :) (My first ones) | 19:25 |
| RainCT | Chris`: if you point to them you may get someone interested (/me is also about to start getting some work done, btw :P) | 19:25 |
| ScottK | !because is <reply> Just because you can't get help in #ubuntu does not make this a help channel. | 19:25 |
| Chris` | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc && http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc-gnome | 19:25 |
| ScottK | !because | 19:26 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about because | 19:26 |
| * RainCT watches ScottK fight with ubottu | 19:26 | |
| * ScottK needs to wait to get it approved. | 19:27 | |
| RainCT | man that uck thing has a really ugly interface :P | 19:27 |
| * RainCT advocates it nevertheless, and now goes to do some coding | 19:29 | |
| === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp | ||
| Chris` | Excuse me but can beta software be included in the repos? | 19:59 |
| RainCT | Chris`: yes, of course. but don't package something which crashes all the time :P | 20:01 |
| Chris` | Ok cool | 20:01 |
| === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks | ||
| fabrice_sp | Hi. Is there some reviewer to have a look at dvdstyler (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler). It only miss another advocate :-) | 20:06 |
| Chris` | How do I label an archave called 1.0.0-BETA1b? | 20:07 |
| Chris` | *archive | 20:07 |
| maxb | messy, but I think acceptable as is | 20:08 |
| RainCT | nope | 20:08 |
| RainCT | 1.0.0~beta1 (or ~b1 or whatever) | 20:08 |
| Chris` | RainCT: Thanks ;) | 20:08 |
| RainCT | the "~" means "less than, before" | 20:08 |
| Chris` | Ah ok | 20:08 |
| RainCT | if you used "-" then the package wouldn't be updated once the final version is out | 20:09 |
| maxb | ugh, I was so busy about thinking... yes you can have an - in the version, release is split on the final - character, that I missed that | 20:09 |
| RainCT | hehe | 20:09 |
| Chris` | partitionmanager (1.0.0~beta1a-0ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low <---- Is that acceptable? | 20:21 |
| === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander | ||
| directhex | Chris`, looks good to me | 21:07 |
| === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp | ||
| Chris` | Any reviewers about that could review this for me please? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=grdc | 22:35 |
| binarymutant | Hi, if anyone has the time to review my updated packages, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=charm, I would be very grateful. Thanks | 23:03 |
| RainCT | woho, my python bindings for espeak are working \o/ | 23:03 |
| binarymutant | how many advocations are needed before upload? 3? also does the advocation count restart for every different version? | 23:26 |
| jpds | binarymutant: 2. Yes. | 23:27 |
| * jpds => bed. Night all. | 23:28 | |
| binarymutant | night thanks | 23:28 |
| RainCT | good night jpds | 23:28 |
| RainCT | binarymutant: yes, it is reset whenever you upload a new revision or you get a negative advocate | 23:28 |
| binarymutant | thanks for the info RainCT | 23:30 |
| RainCT | yw | 23:31 |
| Andre_Gondim | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deluge-torrent/+bug/316305 | 23:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316305 in deluge-torrent "please sync to deluge 1.1.0" [Undecided,In progress] | 23:33 |
| Chris` | mok0: Hello, how are you today? | 23:53 |
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