[00:00] <fta> well, iirc, you can't lock prefs without obfuscating them
[00:02] <Lns> fta: I did that, according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/19033/comments/25
[00:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 19033 in firefox "systemwide default startup homepage ignored" [Medium,Confirmed]
[00:02] <Lns> what the heck is the reason for that, anyway?
[00:04] <fta> maybe hide the locked values from the users, not sure though
[00:04] <Lns> so weird
[00:05] <Lns> i wish there was some sort of control panel for global configuration of firefox
[00:05] <Lns> i would totally pay for that
[00:05] <fta> and remember that even locked, if the user already have set it to something else, your default won't work. you have to trash that from the user's profile
[00:06] <Lns> uhh...so it has to be a new prof. basically?
[00:07] <Lns> It didn't work like that in ff2 iirc
[00:07] <fta> hm..
[00:08] <Lns> at least when it worked.. =p
[00:10] <fta> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locking_preferences
[00:10] <Lns> !!!!!!!! http://mit.edu/~firefox/www/maintainers/autoconfig.html
[00:10] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[00:11] <fta> "Edit all.js" looks wrong to me
[00:11] <fta> mozilla bug 448504
[00:11] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 448504 in Application Update "Upgrade to FF3 and minor upgrades of FF3 cause all.js to be overwritten" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448504
[00:12] <fta> "A much better way to achieve configuration locking is to create a *new* file in
[00:12] <fta> <install_dir>/greprefs/ or <install dir>/default/pref/, so long as the name is
[00:12] <fta> different from the files shipped with firefox and ends in .js, then add the
[00:12] <fta> pref("general.config.filename",..) line to that. This file won't be touched by
[00:12] <fta> the updater, and Mozilla apps will read all the files in this directory on
[00:12] <fta> startup."
[00:14] <Lns> fta: I did that :( no love
[00:19] <Lns> fta: actually i didnt try in .../default/pref, but looking on my system its actually .../defaults/preferences
[00:19] <Lns> why all of the dir/filename changes?
[00:19] <fta> "Slight correction - <install dir>/defaults/pref/ rather than .../default/..."
[00:19] <Lns> prefERENCES though
[00:20] <Lns> I can see how a lot of this stuff can get real confusing real quick
[00:22] <Lns> Heh, even here: http://mit.edu/~firefox/www/maintainers/config.html - prefs.js
[00:22] <Lns>     Sets the default homepage (works around a bug where you can't set the default homepage via autoconfig).
[00:23] <Lns> why was this one pref so mangled...
[00:36] <fta> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/MCD,_Mission_Control_Desktop_AKA_AutoConfig
[00:36] <fta> no idea if those stuff are up-to-date
[00:37] <Lns> This is just insaaaaane
[00:38] <Lns> I see this in the link so it must be old: [root@b008-02 /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.2]
[00:38] <fta> we'd better read the sources. but not today, it's 1:40am here
[00:43] <Lns> np fta, thank you so much for looking into it
[00:43] <Lns> much appreciated
[00:44] <Lns> im off to get some food, havent eaten for almost 8 hours
[04:00] <isiah> can i ask a firefox ubuntu question here?
[09:08] <asac> jtv1: there?
[09:08] <jtv1> asac: hi
[09:08] <asac> jtv1: we have http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/langpacks-c-format-msgfmt-output ... so somehow a bunch of translations have bad strings
[09:09] <jtv1> asac: I know, I know!
[09:09] <asac> jtv1: what do you think is the easiest way to fix? cant we just remove custom translations
[09:09] <asac> jtv1: oh ... sorry for the double check then ;)
[09:09] <jtv1> asac: we're discussing this in #distro
[09:09] <asac> jtv1: yeah ... you werent there ... at least not with tab ;)
[09:10] <asac> jtv1: you are still not in distro ,)
[09:10] <asac> anyway ... have to get some food... cu later
[09:10] <jtv1> asac: bye
[09:18] <asac> if i only had less email traffic in my inbox ... i could get something done
[09:33] <asac> fta: wanna sponsor the mozvoikko extension branch merge request? ;)
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[11:44] <BUGabundo> asac: ping
[11:45] <BUGabundo> NM VPN is not working again
[11:45] <BUGabundo> PPTP
[11:45] <BUGabundo> will test with PPA version next
[12:09] <asac> hmm ... nothing changed ;)
[17:20] <fta> [reed], who decided to stop the lp-bugzilla integration?
[17:23] <[reed]> fta: I did.
[17:25] <[reed]> because I got to thinking... why should Mozilla support a closed source system with custom code when it would be in our interests and the interests of the Open Web to support open source bug systems better
[17:27] <[reed]> it doesn't make sense if you think about it
[17:27] <[reed]> now, once launchpad is open source, I'll be happy to look into it again
[17:31] <Nafallo> user in -se says that seamonkey doesn't remove itself from the alternative x-www-browser after a purge.
[17:39]  * Nafallo told the user to file a bug
[17:52] <asac> hmm crimsun isnt here
[17:52] <asac> my sound is so silent
[17:52] <asac> any clue where i can manage master output for pulseÜ
[17:53] <fta> asac, using the new volume applet
[17:53] <fta> :)
[17:53] <asac> fta: thats broken
[17:53] <asac> its also 100%
[17:53] <asac> but its soooo silent
[17:53] <asac> so i think it remembered one of my alsa stuff beneath
[17:54] <fta> silent or too low?
[17:54] <asac> really loow
[17:54] <asac> i hear the sound
[17:54] <asac> but thats basically it
[17:54] <asac> how do i turn of pulse?
[17:56] <fta> did you try to open the volume control tool? you have per stream/app volume now
[17:56] <asac> fta: where is that?
[17:59] <fta> when you click on the sound applet, you have a button called "Volume Control...", it opens a "Sound Preferences" app
[17:59] <Nafallo> dooh. the user says he have /usr/bin/seamonkey left on the system.
[18:00] <Nafallo> I reckon he might have dreamed about removing it :-P
[18:00] <fta> asac, in there, in the Applications tab, you have one slide per stream
[18:01] <fta> (jaunty of course)
[18:03] <asac> hmmm volume control locks up
[18:03] <asac> will use my laptop for this party then ;)
[18:04] <fta> asac, restart p-a
[18:05] <asac> alread restarted whole system :(
[18:05] <fta> start it in a shell and look for the logs
[18:05] <asac> think only way out is to disable it ... but not know how:(
[18:57] <Jazzva> fta: thanks for looking into it.
[18:57] <Jazzva> I'll dig a bit into this (build-system is new to me), and I'll try to make it work :)
[19:39] <BUGabundo1> fta asac ping
[19:39] <BUGabundo1> does FF in full screen mess css on this page?
[19:39] <BUGabundo1> http://www.funtasticus.com/20090116/stealing-a-look/
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> lp is the same
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[19:51] <fta> BUGabundo1, looks fine to me (3.2)
[19:54] <BUGabundo1> nasty bug
[19:54] <BUGabundo1> could it be and addon?
[19:54] <BUGabundo1> in concrete fullerscreen, fta?
[19:54] <fta> try with a fresh profile
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[19:55] <BUGabundo1> okay
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[21:45] <BUGabundo1> asac: ping
[22:07] <fta> BUGabundo1, did you manage to upgrade gwibber?
[22:09] <BUGabundo1> fta: well I already have the latest
[22:09] <BUGabundo1> even before your PPA
[22:09] <BUGabundo1> so I don't care too much
[22:09] <BUGabundo1> it just fails when running apt-get
[22:55] <Lns> fta: Were you able to take another look at the homepage issue since yesterday?
[23:01]  * Lns is wondering if he should just hack a script together to replace everyone's individual prefs.js file instead