[00:35] In #ubuntu-offtopic, __mikem said: !WastePotato is WastePotato dares you to eat him up [01:05] nini folks [01:06] nini [01:07] have a good flight [01:07] hope you enjoy your time in England [01:37] Hi temppy, how can we help you? [01:38] the LVM and raid factoids are messed up [01:38] Could someone please revert or update the following factoid, aptitude says: ``aptitude: unrecognized option '--disable-columns'''... I've searched the manpage, nothing about it.... [01:38] !clone [01:38] Im trying to offer a fix, its coming shortly [01:38] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [01:39] In ubottu, temppy said: !no, raid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [01:39] !raid [01:39] raid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [01:40] and also, !LVM should probably just be an alias to !raid [01:40] I remove the "raid is" and the "wto" [01:40] !lvm [01:40] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO [01:41] the first link of LVM doesn't work [01:42] anyway, thats all of it. Good luck, and thanks [01:42] The first link for !raid is software raid, why is the second one 'for software raid' see 'fakeraid' [03:32] why am i redirrected to ##unavailable when i join #ubuntu ? [03:33] @login [03:33] The operation succeeded. [03:33] @btlogin [03:33] Let me check [03:34] Were you in here earlier today [03:34] me ? [03:35] Yes. My thinking is that logging in as root user is your problem. [03:36] Jack_Sparrow so root@* is redirrected ? [03:36] Log off/out and switch to non root user and you should be fine [03:36] There are so many bans on root that I am thinking that is the problem you are having. Surfing as root user is not a good idea [03:37] root_____: don't log in as root [03:37] Jack_Sparrow root is not superuser on this box. but yeah, ok. [03:37] nalioth see above ^ [03:37] thanks for the info. [03:38] np [03:38] nalioth, I didnt see a specific ban on his ip, root was the only thing I thought could be his issue [03:39] that is indeed, the issue [03:39] extra comma there [03:39] ty [03:40] later [04:00] now nick nazis ;) [04:27] Weeeeeeeeee [04:42] <|_ocke> can i get unbanned from ubuntu ot please? it's been more than like 2 weeks i think [04:43] nickrud: did you just upgrade to 180? [04:43] tritium, yes [04:43] let me know how it goes... [04:46] success [04:46] excellent [04:46] Notice any improvement? [04:47] a totally non-scientific evaluation is, moving windows seems smoother [04:47] Cool. Perception is everything, at least sometimes. [04:48] ;) [04:49] something I'm going to watch is firefox switching between tabs, there's been a one, two second lag switching between huge pages [04:50] Perhaps I'll also upgrade. [04:50] nickrud: so, what do you suppose was the reason for no auto-upgrade on that package? [04:51] not totally sure, but if someone had a working 177 and 180 broke something, there would be an uprising [04:52] true [04:52] gah. keep reaching for a cigarette [04:52] *I [04:52] * genii steals nickrud's smokes and slips him a coffee instead [04:53] too late for coffee; but I'll get a root beer. Thanks for the suggestion genii [04:53] :) [04:53] and nibble on some gorp [04:53] How does one nibble on gorp? [04:54] I mean, unless you're a hamster or something... [04:54] take a peanut, bite a bit. Take a raisin, bite a bit. Take a m&m, bite a bit. repeat. I'm getting heavy enough already [04:54] * tritium sips eggnog with a Jan. 6 expiration date [04:57] No, really, I'm OK. Thanks for your concern! [04:57] * genii cancels the order of Pepto-Bismol [04:57] :) [04:58] * nickrud was anticipating, ghoulishly, any repercussions and is disappointed [04:58] haha [05:14] |_ocke: Please don't idle here (I know, its a forward) [05:15] <|_ocke> i'm trying to find out if i can get unbanned.. [05:15] <|_ocke> nobody has answered yet [05:15] <|_ocke> it's been a copule weeks and i havent heard anything [05:21] |_ocke: The op who banned you is not currently here to review the ban. Try again in perhaps 8 hours [05:22] |_ocke: Do you understand why you were banned? [05:47] <|_ocke> yeah i do [05:47] <|_ocke> my conversation was inappropriate [05:48] <|_ocke> it's just hard for me to get here 8 hours from now as i will be at work from then for another long time [05:52] |_ocke: Right, inappropriate conversation, and inappropriate language, etc. [05:53] This isn't the first time we've discussed this with you either; which compounds the issue a little. [05:54] However, I'm willing to go to bat for you if you don't make me look like a fool down the road for having faith in your ability to better yourself. [05:55] (And we're also getting to the point where further bans will be calendar pages at a time, which is something you really don't want to happen) [06:07] * nickrud is glad he only uses daily desk calendars [06:13] In #ubuntu-offtopic, Lenin_Cat said: ubottu, __mikem is a mac using boy. [06:20] Well, time to sleep. [07:12] se7enK called the ops in #kubuntu () [07:14] se7enK called the ops in #kubuntu () [07:14] lgk called the ops in #kubuntu () [07:15] !staff | apparently no ops for #kubuntu, can you help out? [07:15] apparently no ops for #kubuntu, can you help out?: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :) [07:15] !ops [07:15] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [07:15] nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [07:16] I has no #k [07:16] PSiL0 called the ops in #kubuntu () [07:17] nor I. Wonder if they set up the emergency access in there [07:17] lgk called the ops in #kubuntu () [07:17] This is sort of rediculous [07:18] !staff | yo! [07:18] yo!: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :) [07:18] !ops | yo! [07:18] yo!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [07:18] nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (yo!) [07:24] Flannel, where is everyone? [07:25] nickrud: No idea. [07:25] Maybe the entire world except CA exploded. [07:27] hm. [07:27] moin [07:27] sorry, don't have powers in K [07:27] do you want me to sms jussi01 or Tm_T? [07:28] no, the problem has parted [07:28] * mneptok undulates [07:28] OMG TODAY TO UK [07:28] Myrtti, did you ever get your laptop? [07:28] nickrud: just getting dressed and going to get it [07:28] At the moment of the taking our excitement is the same. We are the standard dangers of the fanning of the flame. Desire the hot before it cools. Effect? Ashamed to look away. Our confusion is a cousin of the panic of the brain. [07:29] Myrtti: what are you getting? [07:29] All the less-men riot as the one who takes the blame for the erection at the hanging and the tearing off of heads. Stand enlisted at the burning. All our murders look the same. We are the thought and the display. The explanation and the side effect. [07:29] Dell D630 [07:29] Cool! [07:30] * nickrud has doubts about copy/pasters [07:30] sadly I have to return my kickass Dell optiplex 755 away in return [07:31] nickrud: if you can find the lyrics for Shriekback's "Despite Dense Weed" so i can just paste, I KISS YOU [07:35] heh. mneptok you've just guaranteed I'll _never_ find those lyrics ;) [07:40] what where? [07:43] Lame. Unnecessary highlight. [07:44] So, who wants to update my resume for me? [07:45] how much? [07:46] uh, the joy of doing it? [07:46] #ubuntu gets all my free labor :) [07:46] tonyyarusso: I can give you my latex sources for my cv :-D [07:46] tonyyarusso: though... [07:46] IT'S ALL IN PINK [07:47] Myrtti: I don't even need to make it good - I just have to update it to submit for getting internship school credit for work I've already been asked to do. [07:47] LaTeX rocks! [07:47] tritium: Yes indeed! [07:47] tritium: I'd rather do something else for a living tbh. I'm getting fed up with it [07:48] Myrtti: nothing else can typeset mathematics as beautifully. [07:48] on related news [07:48] I've fiddled with latex ... oh, tritium stole my line [07:48] sorry, nickrud [07:48] http://maemo.org/maemo_release_documentation/maemo4.1.x/ <-- updated just before Christmas [07:48] tritium, not the first time, not the last. But I will get you [07:49] * tritium hides in fear [07:50] Myrtti: I can understand it being frustrating sometimes, but I still love it. [07:50] * nickrud goes off to consult nalioth on best methods [07:50] tritium: yup, I don't use openoffice anymore [07:50] emacs love ♥ [07:51] Good for you! [07:52] there should be an IRC bot that does timed reminders [07:53] my todo tasklist on tonight gets longer and longer [07:53] I think supybot has a todo plugin. [07:53] Not sure how it works. [07:53] graah, I've misplaced my hairbrush again [07:54] aroo? [07:54] Apparently my lack of an RSVP to an event was taken as a "Yes, I'll be there!". And so now they have me doing part of the ceremony. Lovely. [07:54] And I _just_ got the work schedule all pretty too... [07:55] on related news [07:55] http://identi.ca/notice/1839584 <-- made me happy [07:56] castro?? [07:56] fun [07:56] tonyyarusso: http://identi.ca/notice/1839520 [07:56] that is so ubercute and hip [07:57] Know what else is cute? My new tiny camera. [08:30] |_ocke, please dont idle here. [08:36] bazhang called the ops in #kubuntu (lgk) [08:39] dude just msg me if you are banned i'll help <--- in #kubuntu (perhaps a reference to ban evading) [08:39] lgk called the ops in #kubuntu (OFFTOPIC DISCUSSION) [08:39] lgk> but is it worth the 5 seconds to get around the ban? no :D [08:41] |_ocke, there is no plan to lift your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic any time soon. Please dont idle here. [08:42] isn't he banned there? [08:42] holycow I mean [08:43] he changed his ident and was allowed back in afaik [08:43] Myrtti: he sent me a pm wih "fuck you" and logged out of freenode [08:43] whoa [08:44] clearly he logged back in [08:44] Nice. [08:44] ikonia: i can guarantee you one thing [08:44] you and all the other ops [08:44] sounds like a threat [08:44] !staff | holycow making threats [08:44] holycow making threats: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :) [08:44] jinx [08:44] I've just got a pm [08:44] 08:44 if i ever meet you or any of the ubuntu ops, you will not be happy to see me [08:44] 08:44 that is a guarantee [08:44] christel, this is where you do stuff, and i hug you in return [08:45] In #ubuntu, lgk said: !ops oh noes, is ikonia madddd? Y SO MAD :D [08:45] the pair of them are trying to troll [08:45] one thing we can be sure of, he's easily ban/reroutable [08:45] just cutting them out of the channels as it;s obvious their intention [08:45] watch them hit all other #u channels now [08:45] !staff [08:45] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :) [08:46] ysomad ikonia? [08:46] ysoserious lmao [08:46] :-| [08:46] lgk, stop now [08:46] anytime your ready [08:47] Myrtti, he still ditching braincells? [08:47] nope [08:48] and - you've got to see this [08:48] * Myrtti takes her camera [08:48] getting a nice ammount of abuse in pm [08:48] maybe time to head of to the doctors early this morning [08:48] dont wait ikonia [08:48] can't go yet - got to wait for appointment [08:48] especially if you have a fever [08:49] I went yesterday [08:49] got to go back today [08:49] got just ove an hour though [08:49] bazhang, copy/paste a stack to my pm if you want on the record [08:49] over [08:49] er, ikonia^^ [08:49] major mis-tab :) [08:49] elkbuntu: couldn't care less, it's obvious his intention [08:49] just "douchebag" stuff like that [08:49] tedious [08:50] eagles is dangerous in #kubuntu [08:50] yeah [08:50] he is advising people of nonsense [08:50] still? [08:51] the make apt-build of everything? [08:51] you are permitted to get rid of eagles at whim [08:51] he does nothing but cause problems [08:51] telling people to copmile google earth from source ???? [08:51] I thought it was a binary only ? [08:52] yeah, and if he had the slightest clue he'd know that [08:52] join #kubuntu [08:52] sorry [08:58] http://flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3201258768/ :-D [08:59] nice! :) [09:12] öhmöm, my tummy starts to ache [09:12] I guess I'm getting really nervous [09:20] Myrtti: don't like fying? [09:20] I don't mind it that much, atleast I don't have to change planes or travel by train or anything to Helsinki nor do I need that in UK [09:21] but it's just the anticipation [09:21] I can coax myself into being more and more nervous [09:39] Dr's time - laters [09:45] * elkbuntu cuddles Myrtti [09:48] whee, partitioning done [09:48] adalhelm called the ops in #ubuntu () [09:49] elkbuntu: sorry for delay (i overslept today!) -- holycow is gone now [09:49] okay here. [09:49] what the heck [09:50] howdy. [09:50] merh [09:50] banned from where? you were just in #ubuntu. are you breaking freenode policy by evading the ban? [09:50] no. [09:50] banned from offtopic. [09:50] for discussing xorg with someone. [09:50] I've waited a few days, I'd like it to be removed. [09:50] @bansearch adalhelm [09:50] Match: *!*@d149-67-186-198.try.wideopenwest.com by topyli in #ubuntu-offtopic on Jan 10 2009 21:27:47 (ID: 8913) [09:50] * Myrtti doesn't like this at all [09:50] @btlogin [09:51] if you don't believe me, check logs. [09:51] i am. [09:51] I was discussing the issues with the level of abstraction separating xorg and the kernel [09:51] and it'd be better to do a more integrated system. [09:51] that being said, I'm on Linux so clearly I don't hate it :P [09:52] IIRC, I wasn't given a warning either. [09:52] hmm [09:52] adalhelm, you were given several warnings [09:53] yet your way of getting attention is not conventional [09:53] including someone explicitly saying 'your_nick, stop' and a kick. [09:53] elkbuntu: I stand corrected. [09:53] from several individual operators [09:53] either way, I don't understand what's wrong with discussing the modern Linux desktop on...#ubuntu-offtopic. [09:53] oh him [09:53] but I'll heed the warnings in future regardless. [09:54] you also called the finnish language evil [09:54] adalhelm, you were trolling. [09:54] that was intended to be humorous, you can't be serious. [09:54] no it was not funny. [09:54] twice [09:54] you really think calling #insert_language evil is anything but hysterical? the language is notoriously difficult for english speakers. [09:54] true about the language, but trolling is not nice [09:54] if you don't believe me, google "finnish language difficult english speakers" [09:55] and calling ops in #u to get this resolved adalhelm ?? [09:55] topyli: okay but how was I trolling? [09:55] bazhang: I didn't know i wasn't supposed to use it, relax! [09:55] adalhelm, no need for me to relax [09:55] adalhelm: yet you knew to come here [09:55] you told me to. [09:55] adalhelm, I am relaxed. [09:55] someone said to go to #ubuntu-ops [09:55] and then I did. [09:55] right, so how i'm reading this log is: you insulted the finnish language twice. you then insulted the british. then discussed which out of britain and france has hotter women (very insulting to women in the channel)...... [09:55] adalhelm, dont do that again in #ubuntu [09:55] then insulted the polish [09:55] adalhelm: ok, I looked at the timestamps and got confused [09:56] bazhang: I've been notified several times since I did it, thank you. [09:56] then discussed windows 7 beta [09:56] elkbuntu: insulted? lol. [09:56] adalhelm, or you will two bans for trolling. [09:57] adalhelm, was someone else operating your computer at the time? [09:57] bazhang: I don't think so, unless my roommate learned how to use linux out of nowhere. [09:58] bazhang: would you like me to say yes so that I can get unb&? [09:58] then you launched into calling various projects trash [09:58] adalhelm, no [09:58] adalhelm: looks like you don't think you've done anything wrong. should that be taken to mean you will continue behaving just like before if unbanned? [09:58] adalhelm, just to make sure it was you who was trolling. [09:58] topyli: I've already said I'll heed warnings in future regardless of my own gauging of things. [09:59] if you guys consider raising discussion subjects in that manner to be trolling, then I won't engage in it. plain and simple. That said, it's just plain irksome to remain banned when I'm willing to cooperate. [10:00] adalhelm, it's not the raising of discussions. it's how you did it, and how insulting you were when you did it [10:00] adalhelm, why the hurry to get back in there [10:00] I'll take your points on the technological errata but humorous commentary on the languages is just baffling. [10:00] bazhang: I used to know people there. I want to see if they're around. [10:00] warnings in general don't mean "let's discuss the rules." they mean "you will be removed soon" [10:00] topyli: I'm now aware of this. [10:00] adalhelm, likely they are not. [10:01] bazhang: that's nice, but I'd like to see for myself. [10:01] adalhelm, i'm not really sure how lining up a heap of languages/cultures and shooting them down in an international channel is humorous. [10:01] elkbuntu: "shooting them down" isn't an accurate way to frame that. [10:01] no, it's quite accurate. [10:01] this seems like trolling now. [10:02] it's a funny commentary on how absurd polish consonants look to english speakers. for pete's sake. [10:02] I'm not trolling, I'm not being inflammatory, I'm explaining my side of it. [10:02] I can't think it'd hurt to explain to why you guys why I didn't think I was doing any harm. [10:02] there is no other side to being rude and insulting adalhelm [10:02] The better you understand why I thought I was being harmless, the better you'll understand why I'm willing to play by the rules. [10:02] adalhelm, insulting poles in a channel where there are poles isnt inflammatory? i think you fail to understand the meaning of the word. [10:03] elkbuntu: I wasn't insulting poles. I was commenting on the difficulty of the pronunciation of their langauge from the point of view of an english speaker [10:03] example: "mandarin is hard to learn" [10:03] you know why it's hard? English speakers aren't used to a tonal language. [10:03] adalhelm, which is something insulting to poles. [10:03] similarly: "polish lettering is incomprehensible to english speakers" [10:03] I highly doubt the poles care if their language is difficult for english speakers. [10:04] or that they have any hurt feelings concerning the matter. [10:04] I spent some missionary time with a CMA church in Poland. They thought it was great that their consonantation was cryptic to us. [10:05] adalhelm, so by your account, what you did was harmless, and folks are over-reacting? [10:05] if you want to try to nail me down for trolling, the stuff about language isn't the point to take. [10:05] if you want to nail me down for trolling, the technical matters are far closer to the mark. [10:05] that's more reasonably described as trolling. [10:05] the linguistic commentary isn't even close. [10:05] adalhelm, you were nailed already. [10:05] adalhelm, thus the ban. [10:05] well, I'd call that the banhammer, but yes. We're discussing getting me unbanned. [10:06] I'm going to save both parties a lot of time right now [10:06] adalhelm, then please answer my question above. [10:06] are you going to unban me now that I understand what I did wrong, and am willing to play by the rules, or will you leave it up? [10:06] adalhelm, so by your account, what you did was harmless, and folks are over-reacting? [10:06] that's not how I would characterize it [10:06] I'd say both parties were at fault. [10:06] then please do so. [10:07] the linguistic parts are just nitpicking. [10:07] the technical parts are legitimate complaints. [10:07] I didn't heed the warnings either, not realizing that I wasn't allowed to discuss such matters. [10:07] that being said, I've already agreed to be more adept at heeding ops in future. [10:07] adalhelm, judging by the silence descended here, I would say you wont be unbanned. [10:07] then I'll go over your heads. Ta ta. [10:08] !idle | adalhelm [10:08] adalhelm: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [10:08] i really really hate that 'i thought no means yes' attitude [10:08] i think the big issue is ignoring the warnings [10:08] perhaps the rest will follow [10:08] topyli, i agree [10:08] (if that's fixed) [10:09] adalhelm, please dont idle here. [10:09] I already said I would heed future warnings. [10:09] topyli: ^^ [10:10] i might be willing to lift the ban based on that, if supported [10:10] i'm not convinced [10:11] and I admitted fault on other matters as well. [10:11] it's not the mere fact of willingness to heed future warnings that is relevant to what I am saying here [10:11] topyli: are you, by any chance, have had any contact with Vinterbound? [10:11] topyli: it's that I genuinely didn't think I was doing wrong. [10:11] or something [10:12] Myrtti: doesn't right a bell immediately [10:12] adalhelm, i feel sorry for people you know real life who say 'stop' only to have you continue [10:12] just entered -offtopic [10:12] elkbuntu: I don't need your pity. [10:12] adalhelm: no, the other problem is you think your past conduct was okay [10:12] elkbuntu: and I'd certainly you rather not be so rude as to suggest that you feel it for me. [10:12] adalhelm, i'm not pitying you. [10:13] topyli: I didn't say it was okay. I said it was intended innocently [10:13] adalhelm, you mgiht want to read what i actually wrote [10:13] the fact/consequence of what I did was clearly not okay. [10:13] elkbuntu: I'm the only subject under discussion. That's the only thing taht could be gleaned from that. [10:13] adalhelm, look between the words 'for' and 'who' [10:14] elkbuntu: You could speak ill in general of the mentally ill or deficient, but in the presence of someone you believe to be mentally ill or deficient, it's clear in that case what your intent is. [10:15] but that is besides the point. [10:15] adalhelm, no, it's not. [10:15] adalhelm: 1.) you where warned ignored it multiple times - just serve out the ban, 2.) arguing and being petty in here makes you look very bad and not ready to enter the channel, so just walk away, serve out the ban and come back with a a better outlook [10:15] topyli: like I said, my intent was innocent, but I understand where my actions were at fault. That is compounded by my willingness to heed warnings here on out. [10:15] ikonia: how long is the ban? [10:15] adalhelm: your digging a hole - your have explained your intentions [10:16] adalhelm: ask the guy who set it - I assume it's until you can show you can behave (your attitude in here does not show that) [10:16] adalhelm, after the threat to 'go above our head', several days now. [10:16] elkbuntu: thank you ;) [10:16] adalhelm: just clam down - stop being argumentative, and come back in a few days [10:16] adalhelm: I'm sure things can be worked out [10:17] adalhelm, feel free to try though. it'll be as successful as trying to convince a police officer to force someone let you into their house. [10:17] elkbuntu: I'm not commenting on that. [10:17] ikonia: hokay. wait it out. Gotcha. Thanks for the advice. Cheers! :D [10:17] toodles everyone, you've been sweethearts. [10:17] adalhelm: great, thanks [10:18] right laters gusy [10:18] guys [10:18] that is... the creepiest farewell from a troll in quite some time [10:18] yep [10:20] haha [10:20] anyway [10:20] elkbuntu: hows the elections going? [10:20] again, I don't know what to do with all my stalkers [10:20] now that the issue of ASUS-tek is done [10:21] vinterbound is martiini ? [10:21]