[00:27] <retour> Remote Desktop Viewer connects to the machine but instead of its desktop shows me some kinda simplified console!???
[00:29] <cody-somerville> lol
[00:30] <cody-somerville> never heard of that
[00:39] <retour> cody-somerville: I've installed vnc4server + vnc4viewer
[00:40] <cody-somerville> retour, Try starting xfce4-session from the simplified console?
[00:43] <retour> how?
[00:44] <cody-somerville> Well, what exactly is a "simplified console" anyhow?
[00:48] <pkodon> Hello.
[00:48] <antonehenry> hello
[00:48] <antonehenry> what should i partition my new drive as?
[00:49] <antonehenry> i have no idea
[00:49] <antonehenry> ext2 or fat or what
[00:50] <pkodon> I have a variant of Xubuntu called PC/OS, and am having a problem getting new themes to show up in the User Interface part of the Settings Manager.
[00:51] <pkodon> I followed the instructions in the docs (create a new .themes directory in my home directory, extract the themes to there, and they should show up in the manager). Only, they don't.
[00:53] <pkodon> artonehenry: If you're using it for Linux, use ext2 or ext3.
[00:53] <retour> well exactly what you get doing Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc. Gray background size of desktop with smaller white rectangle of real console with machine name and I can type there , real console!
[00:53] <pkodon> antonehenry: Sorry about the name.
[00:54] <antonehenry> pkodon, thank you!!!!!
[00:54] <antonehenry> wish i could help you
[00:54] <antonehenry> i'm a huge newbie
[00:55] <pkodon> antonehenry: Well, I'm a newbie to Linux, but I've used computers going back to the TRS-80 Model I, NCR Decision Mate V, Amiga, early PC clones, and even one of those old black and white Macs.
[00:56] <antonehenry> yea. linux newbie for sure
[00:57] <pkodon> Not sure I like using Pidgin for IRC, I think I'll get something else installed. I can't seem to change the font for this window, and it's way too small for my screen resolution.
[00:58] <pkodon> Anyway, I usually seem to come onto IRC when nobody's talking :)
[01:00] <pkodon> antonehenry: BTW, ext3 is a journalling file system, which is supposed to help you get back stuff you accidentally deleted, or something like that, though I don't yet know how to access that feature.
[01:00] <antonehenry> nice!
[01:00] <antonehenry> yea, i just had another friend tell me to go with ext3
[01:01] <antonehenry> so it's been done
[01:01] <pkodon> antonehenry: I have one drive with ntfs on it, but that's because it used to be a WinXP drive, and I still keep most of my Windows stuff on it.
[01:02] <antonehenry> yea, i had the same thing with another drive.  i have to mount it every time the server is restarted though
[01:02] <antonehenry> though i don't need it for anything
[01:02] <pkodon> antonehenry: It's okay for storage, but it doesn't keep track of all the permissions you have in Linux, that's why ext3 would be best.
[01:03] <pkodon> antonehenry: Hmm, there should be a way for you to set it to mount at bootup.
[01:04] <antonehenry> it's okay, i'm going to transfer the stuff i need to a new drive, then reformat it
[01:05] <pkodon> antonehenry: Under the System menu, I have an NTFS Configuration Tool. If it's not theere, there may be some other way of setting it up (I used to have Kubuntu, and there it was inside the system settings utility).
[01:06] <antonehenry> don't have it =[
[01:07] <antonehenry> there were people working on it in the forums, i was reading.  should be easy to figure out
[01:07] <pkodon> antonehenry: Sounds like what I'm going to do with an ext2 drive I have in my Win98SE machine. I want to put my Win98 game installation downloads on it, and of course Win98SE can't see the drive.
[01:08] <pkodon> antonehenry:  Which version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[01:08] <antonehenry> lol, win98!
[01:08] <antonehenry> why?
[01:09] <pkodon> antonehenry: Well, if I knew which version, I might be able to figgure out what you should look for.
[01:10] <antonehenry> ooooh.  xubuntu
[01:10] <antonehenry> sorry, missed the question
[01:11] <antonehenry> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6536360#post6536360
[01:11] <antonehenry> that's the thread i've been following
[01:12] <pkodon> Hmm, okay (waiting for it to load).
[01:13] <retour> anybody has eperience with vnc4server?
[01:15] <antonehenry> so i used gparted to partition my new drive, pkodon, do you know how to mount it?
[01:16] <antonehenry> retour, i tried to use it once, but it didn't work out for me
[01:16] <pkodon> antonehenry: Okay, so, did you find the message from balloooza?
[01:16] <retour> well it works for me but instead of graphical desktop (probably console7) it sends me console 1
[01:17] <pkodon> antonehenry: Hmm. Did you set it up with a mountpoint?
[01:17] <antonehenry> the last one?  NOTE, this only works if the filesystem is EXT3, not NTFS. if this is the case, you should post before continuing.
[01:18] <antonehenry> that partition that i need to remount is NTFS
[01:18] <antonehenry> and i don't know what a mountpoint is
[01:19] <pkodon> antonehenry: Heh, I guess you didn't do a manual partition when you installed Xubuntu, right?
[01:20] <antonehenry> don't think so.  i'm adding another hard drive for mainly storage.  it's brand new.  just finished making it ext3... now i need to be able to find it on the OS
[01:20] <pkodon> antonehenry: When I installed PC/OS (an extension of Xubuntu 8.7x), when it asked me how I wanted to partition the drive, I told it I wanted to do a manual partition.
[01:22] <antonehenry> okay?   i already partitioned my drive.  i just need to mount it
[01:22] <pkodon> antonehenry: I have a 10G partition with the mountpoint set as / (root), a 2G partition set up as a swap partition (saves having a swap file), and a third partition set up with /home as the mountpoint.
[01:23] <pkodon> In the partitioner, you can set it up with a mountpoint, pointing to a directory, usually in /media (since it's a data drive, not part of the normal system).
[01:24] <antonehenry> yea
[01:24] <antonehenry> it's not working it seems
[01:24] <pkodon> You may have to reboot, as well.
[01:25] <antonehenry> i'll try that brb
[01:25] <pkodon> Are we still talking about the NTFS drive, or the reforatted ext3 drive?
[01:25] <pkodon> Guess we'll find out when he comes back.
[01:26] <pkodon> Now, about my question on themes, is no one else awake in here?
[01:36] <pkodon> Hmm.
[01:37] <pkodon> So, no one in here can help me figgure out how to install a new theme?
[01:39] <j1mc> pkodon: i can help
[01:39] <j1mc> have you downloaded the theme?
[01:39] <j1mc> the theme file?
[01:44] <pkodon> I downloaded the theme, created a .themes directory in my home directory (/home/me/.themes), extracted the theme there, and it doesn't show up in the User Interface part of the Settings Manager.
[01:45] <pkodon> This was following the instructions in the Xubuntu help. I have PC/OS, an enhanced Xubuntu 8.7x.
[01:45] <j1mc> pkodon: that sounds like the right approach.  when you open the folder that contains the theme file ( in /home/me/.themes/name-of-theme/ )  ... what all is included in there?
[01:45] <j1mc> pkodon: i wrote those instructions.  :)
[01:46] <j1mc> pkodon: also, what is the name of the theme?  (just for my reference)
[01:46] <pkodon> Okay, just a minute...
[01:47] <pkodon> First off, this is actually two themes, downloaded from the forums for PC/OS. It's supposed to be two Amiga-like themes for XFCE.
[01:47] <pkodon> I'll get you the exact info...
[01:51] <pkodon> ami-type-themes.tar.gz is the archive I downloaded, it contains two theme directories: AmiPcOS-default and AmiPcOS-silver, and each containes one directory named xfwm4, which most of the other themes I found have in them.
[01:52] <j1mc> ok, so is the structure /home/me/.themes/foldername/amipcos-default...  and /home/me/.themes/foldername/amipcos-silver  ?
[01:53] <j1mc> if so, you need to move the amipcos-default folder so that it is like /home/me/.themes/amipcos-default/
[01:53] <pkodon> No, it's the latter.
[01:53] <j1mc> ok
[01:54] <j1mc> you've checked the xfce-settings-manager > user interfaced, right?
[01:54] <pkodon> Mind you, I found in the already installed themes one for PCOS that doesn't show up in the manager either.
[01:54] <j1mc> have you also checked xfce-settings-manager > window manager
[01:54] <pkodon> Hold on...
[01:55] <j1mc> it's probably in there
[01:55] <pkodon> Umm, there is an xfce-settings-manager?
[01:55] <pkodon> If so, I can't find it.
[01:55] <j1mc> applications > settings > settings manager
[01:56] <pkodon> Ahh, okay, that was the missing piece of the puzzle.
[01:56] <j1mc> :)
[01:57] <j1mc> do you see a button called "window manager" in there?
[01:57] <pkodon> I had been using the user interface part, not the window manager part.
[01:57] <j1mc> ok... yeah, it can be a bit confusing.
[01:57] <pkodon> Well, thanks, now I can go look for more themes.
[01:58] <j1mc> there's just one ".themes" folder, but the "themes" are controlled in either the "user interface" section or the "window manager" section.
[01:58] <pkodon> And I don't need root access to install them.
[01:58] <j1mc> no, you don't
[01:58] <pkodon> Hold on a sec...
[01:58] <j1mc> those themes will only be available to you if you put them in your .themes folder
[01:58] <pkodon> The following instructions came with the file...
[01:59] <j1mc> if you want them to be available to all users, you would need to put them in /usr/share/themes (i think)
[01:59] <j1mc> which does require root access
[01:59] <pkodon> To install copy these into the /usr/share/themes folder. You will have to be a super user so in a terminal type "sudo thunar /usr/share/themes' this will open a root Thunar session in the Themes folder and just copy and paste or drag. AmiPcOs-default changes with you theme colors.
[02:00] <pkodon> Right now, they are in both folders.
[02:00] <j1mc> that's right... if you put the theme there, it does require root access, but it will give access to the theme to all users on the system
[02:00] <pkodon> But they only show up once in that listing.
[02:01] <j1mc> if you put the theme in your home folder, only you will have access to it, but it doesn't require root access.
[02:01] <pkodon> Well, I'm the only user, and don't plan on any others. I live by myself, in a guest house, and don't really want to have anyone else have access.
[02:01] <j1mc> putting them in both places won't break anything, but . . .  it's probably better to be consistent
[02:02] <j1mc> well, you'd only be giving another user (if there was one) access to choose the theme you just installed.  :)
[02:02] <j1mc> your home folder should be fine... just like you did here.
[02:02] <j1mc> /home/me/.themes/[theme folder]
[02:02] <pkodon> Anyway, I have the instructions for both methods now, and know where to look, so thanks.
[02:02] <j1mc> cool
[02:03] <pkodon> BTW, I ended up installing PC/OS over my frankinubuntu installation.
[02:05] <pkodon> I had started with Kubuntu, added ubuntu-desktop, xfce-desktop, updated to 8.10, added stuff from Super-Ubuntu, and one other Ubuntu-based distro, and ended up with so many conflicts I couldn't get some stuff to update any more.
[02:06] <pkodon> PC/OS gets me up and running with a distro of Xubuntu that I can watch my movie archive with, access online content, and it works on this older PC.
[02:06] <j1mc> no worries... whatever works fo ryou
[02:07] <pkodon> Anyway, thanks for the help, now I'll go back to tweaking my system...
[02:08] <Niki_> hi. i have fresh installation of xubuntu 8.10 from alternative cd. default network config. the machine properly obtains dhcp information, ip is assigned, route is set, dns servers are set. but no network conectivity at all. i can not even ping the gateway. no restrictions on the gateway itself. ifconfig does not report any transm. errors. what to check next?
[02:10] <Niki_> also, i used mii-tool to restart and reset the transmitter. after each such restart it renegotiates the link ok, the dhcp log on the router displays the new assigment. dhcpclient runs ok as well, renegotiating properly the ip lease
[02:12] <Niki_> the routing table looks ok (gateway for 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 trough eth0, default to 192.168.0.1). but 192.168.0.1 is unreachable (ping report)
[02:16] <j1mc> Niki_: what is in your /etc/resolve.conf?
[02:16] <j1mc> can you list the contents of that file?
[02:16] <j1mc> oops... /etc/resolv.conf  (no "e")
[02:17] <j1mc> Niki_: if it isn't in there already, try adding "nameserver 192.168.0.1" (without the quotes) onto a separate line in that file.
[02:18] <j1mc> (if 192.168.0.1 is the ip address of  your router)
[02:18] <Niki_> j1mc: it lists the dns servers, assigned from the router. exactly the same servers I see on the other machines on the network
[02:18] <Niki_> j1mc: it does not list 192.168.0.1, but this is not dns problem, i can not ping the router itself, neither any other machine on the network
[02:20] <j1mc> Niki_: what are the contents of /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[02:22] <j1mc> Niki_: i've got to run... sorry if i'm not being of much help.  it sounds like you have an idea of what you are doing.  i hope you find a solution soon.
[02:23] <Niki_> thanks
[02:36] <pkodon> Okay, now that I have themes working, how do I get my default browser changed from Firefox to Opera?
[02:42] <R1cochet> settings>preferred apps
[02:43] <pkodon> Thanks
[02:44] <R1cochet> im trying to edit my connection settings but when i reboot they get reset and i have to go in and edit them again. how can i get them to saved so i dont have to edit them everytime i restaret?
[02:44] <R1cochet> restart*
[03:14] <PKodon> Now, here's a tough one. I work and live at a guest house, and we have a wireless internet router (not connected to a computer, just to the DSL, though I can now connect to it via ethernet from another employee's computer, since it's in her apartment). It's using a passcode for security, and everyone who comes here with a Windows laptop gets in just fine. Neither myself, with Xubuntu, nor the other employee with Windows2k, can connec
[03:37] <PKodon> R1cochet: Did you fix your problem?
[03:37] <R1cochet> yea
[03:37] <R1cochet> ty
[03:38] <R1cochet> for some reason authentication poped up and asked for password and that did the trick
[03:38] <R1cochet> tho the other 100xs i tried to save it wouldnt popup for authentication
[03:38] <R1cochet> ty
[03:39] <PKodon> Well, I'm glad that works for you, I can't get my Linksys card to connect, with a passcode, to my own employer's wireless router.
[03:39] <R1cochet> hmmm
[03:39] <R1cochet> how do i add more rows to the pager applet?
[03:41] <R1cochet> did u tick enable wireless?
[03:41] <R1cochet> brb and ill try to help u as much as i can, nicotine
[03:42] <PKodon> Umm, I'm connected to an open wireless connection right now, so I guess it's enabled.
[03:42] <PKodon> I just can't connect to the wireless that's in the building.
[03:43] <PKodon> And the funny thing is, neither can a fellow worker with the same card, and Windows 2000.
[03:46] <R1cochet> hmm maybe they dont have it setup right?
[03:47] <R1cochet> did u select the correct wep/wpa pass setting?
[03:51] <PKodon> As far as I know. And I looked at the sticker on the router for the exact passcode (we're using the default one that came with the router).
[03:59] <PKodon> R1coch3t: You still there?
[04:00] <root> hi, new xubuntu user, having a few problems.  i accidentally logged into root somehow, and i dont know how to log out of root
[04:01] <PKodon> I see that, you're logged onto here as root.
[04:01] <root> yeah
[04:01] <PKodon> Can you log out?
[04:02] <root> log out of root?  i dont really know how to...i dont know how i logged into root, to be honeste
[04:04] <PKodon> Are you in a command line shell, or in a gui?
[04:05] <root> i think a command line
[04:07] <PKodon> Try typing "exit"
[04:08] <root> closes terminal, still in root
[04:08] <PKodon> Well, you'll have to close the IRC session, too, as it's in a root terminal.
[04:09] <PKodon> Close all root terminal sessions and you should be out of root.
[04:11] <Jinto> I'm working with root on her problem.  She that didn't work.
[04:11] <Jinto> She's still in root.
[04:11] <R1cochet> added a new font and refreshed the cache but the font still doesnt show
[04:13] <PKodon> R1cochet: Tried a reboot? Some things require a reboot, even in Linux.
[04:13] <R1cochet> lol
[04:15] <R1cochet> ok brb
[04:16] <Jinto> Any way to log out of root besides Crtl+d or typing exit?
[04:19] <R1cochet> cool its there now
[04:23] <Jinto> Seriously?  No other options for logging out of root?
[04:35] <R1cochet> PKodon: u still here?
[05:19] <Jinto> If the terminal is prompting root@xubuntu:/home/Jinto how can I get back to the normal user account?
[05:32] <majnoon> Jinto, try "exit"
[05:32] <Jinto> That's not working, all that does on root's computer is close terminal.
[06:31] <taw> ablomen, thanks for the link
[06:32] <taw> jarnos, that was what I was trying to do, but could not find where :-)
[07:25] <taw> has anybody tested xubuntu on multi-head config without xinerama?
[07:26] <taw> at least KDE about year a go had serious problems
[08:41] <nikolam> I have tiny trouble with stucked apt/dpkg.. I have bunch of external repositories added and dpkg --configure -a does not fix it
[08:41] <nikolam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/105072/
[08:42] <nikolam> I tried to disable external repos but no help. I never installed the package it complains about
[08:42] <nikolam> I am on Hardy/64bit
[08:47] <TheSheep> nikolam: check your free disk space
[08:47] <TheSheep> what's eubuntu?
[08:48] <nikolam> 9 gig free on root, 132M free on boot
[08:49] <TheSheep> well, check the postinstall script for that package and see why it's failing
[08:51] <TheSheep> it'd be /var/lib/dpkg/info/initrd-tools.postinst
[08:51] <TheSheep> sorry
[08:51] <TheSheep> it'd be /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs-tools.postinst
[08:51] <R1cochet> eubuntu is ubuntu for schools and kids and such
[08:52] <TheSheep> wasn't that edubuntu?
[08:52] <R1cochet> sorry ur right
[08:54] <nikolam> i think edubuntu is for schools. This one I think installs enlightment on top of xubuntu
[08:56] <TheSheep> and it comes with its own initrd? O.o
[08:57] <nikolam> hm. I knew it was risky.. but not that far..
[08:59] <TheSheep> just see what makes that script fail
[08:59] <TheSheep> or slap an 'exit' at the top of it
[09:01] <nikolam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/105467/
[09:06] <nikolam> This is it: http://cafelinux.org/OzOs/
[09:07] <TheSheep> maybe ask them...
[09:07] <nikolam> yes. That would be proper action. I see now.
[09:08] <nikolam> This is their howto, if you see it happening again: http://cafelinux.org/OzOs/content/how-install-ozos-desktop-existing-os
[09:11] <nikolam> I was into remove it anyway, I was thinking only to see how it works a bit. etc.
[09:11] <nikolam> "on top of xubuntu" sounded promising..
[09:12] <R1cochet> TheSheep: when u run sudo thunar from terminal i get: Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks",
[09:13] <TheSheep> R1cochet: either install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks  or use a different theme
[09:14] <R1cochet> i only get that message when u do sudo
[09:15] <R1cochet> cool thank you
[09:16] <R1cochet> just dont understand y i would that error only when i ran it sudo
[09:16] <TheSheep> i suppose root's default theme uses ubuntulooks
[09:18] <nikolam> maybe sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks  ?
[09:20] <nikolam> R1cochet, U use xubuntu?
[09:21] <R1cochet> i did install it and no more message: ~{R1cochet}~ cool thank you
[09:21] <R1cochet> yes im on xubuntu
[09:21] <R1cochet> i must say that eubuntu looks dope
[09:22] <R1cochet> i mean ozos
[09:23] <nikolam> I don`t recomment it. I am having trouble with it I was just testing enlightment a bit. Xfce is my choice.
[09:23] <nikolam> Maybe livecd is better way to see it a bit or something.
[09:25] <R1cochet> i dont think ill change from xfce but wouldnt mind having a look at what ozos can do
[09:26] <R1cochet> nikolam: did u get the old cvs pack?
[09:27] <nikolam> I am trying to get rid of it right now.. i think not.
[09:36] <TheSheep> nikolam: maybe this would help: sudo apt-get --reinstall install initramfs-tools
[09:37] <nikolam> nope wining about dpkg --configure -a
[09:37] <nikolam> I am registering to their forum. I should get them in the first place, anyway
[09:38] <TheSheep> run dpkg --clear-selections  and try again
[09:39] <nikolam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/105474/
[09:40] <TheSheep> nikolam: do it again, but remove their repository first and do update
[09:41] <nikolam> i removed it all.
[09:41] <TheSheep> did you update?
[09:41] <nikolam> TheSheep, I think that it would be best to post on their forum and ask for that kind of help
[09:41] <nikolam> yes i did suto apt-get update
[09:41] <TheSheep> but after doing clear-selections
[09:42] <TheSheep> because the previous update didn't work...
[09:43] <nikolam> dpkg --configure -a get no output now
[09:43] <TheSheep> yes
[09:43] <TheSheep> but your initramfs-tools package is still broken, you want to replace it with the original ubuntu one
[09:44] <nikolam> :) i will see to it now to uninstall d. thing. it says sudo aptitude remove oz-desktop sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:44] <TheSheep> maybe use synaptic and 'force version' from the menu
[09:45] <nikolam> since i diched their repository, i think it will go to default
[09:45] <R1cochet> defaukt is e16
[09:45] <R1cochet> i checked synaptic earlier
[09:46] <nikolam> it is funny it always removes my seamonkey-mailnews, like i don`t use it every day :)
[09:47] <nikolam> Maybe because i mabe 1.1.13 myself..
[09:49] <nikolam> still that d* 2.6.28 thing aargh
[09:50] <TheSheep> synaptic has an option of forcing the version of package to install
[09:50] <nikolam> i only have hardy and hardy-updates now
[09:57] <R1cochet> as in all packs got uninstalled?
[09:58] <nikolam> i just did update
[09:59] <nikolam> ic only complains about taht 2.6.28 but it did it
[10:02] <TheSheep> yeah, that was the version you got from that OzOs
[10:06] <nikolam> so next time, i use some kind of protection :))
[10:07] <TheSheep> ...
[11:03] <jarnos> How do you know the name of the output or the XID of your monitor?
[11:06] <jarnos> I need that when I run xrandr.
[11:10] <jarnos> "default" seemed to work; I got it from grandr interface.
[11:49] <taw> My xubuntu doesn't lock screen when I suspend
[11:49] <taw> is there some setting for it?
[11:51] <taw> and same with hibernate, session is not locked
[11:52] <taw> blaah, text config file & comprehensive manual page is much better than some UI
[11:59] <nikolam> taw I think you can set it in Settings>Settings Manager>Screensaver > activate screen saver and Lock screeen when screensaver is active
[12:00] <nikolam> taw I had problems myself with some scripts for intalling drivers on asus eeepc that are disabling screen lock without question
[12:03] <taw> but I don't want atomatic locking with screensaver
[12:03] <taw> well, I'll try that anyway
[12:04] <taw> doesn't help either
[12:06] <taw> and reboot from xfce doesn't work
[12:07] <taw> from gdm works
[12:11] <taw> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/35711
[12:15] <taw> hmm, doesn't solve
[12:20] <nikolam> hm, i don`t know, i use gdm...
[12:20] <nikolam> got to go now.
[12:21] <taw> annoying to have to separately log out, and then say reboot
[17:14] <slow-motion> hi
[18:05] <sharon> Hello I have a wireless question.
[18:06] <sharon> Anyone here who can help?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> !question | sharon
[18:12] <knome> i wonder how a question can be wireless or wired.
[18:14] <sharon> ok then. here it is.
[18:15] <sharon> I am setting up an old laptop with xubuntu. The laptop is wireless capable but it is not recognised by xubuntu. The networking application mentioned in the online help sems to be mising from the applications menu so I don't know how to get any further.
[18:22] <sharon> So how do I find the network manager from the command line?
[18:23] <likemindead> Can anyone help me setup an external serial 56k modem in Xubuntu 8.10? (Please!)
[18:23] <sharon> How do I run a diagnostic so that I can find out exactly what sort of Wireless card is present in this laptop?
[18:24] <charlie-tca> sharon: lspci or sudo lshw will give you the card information
[18:24] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[18:25] <sharon> ok excellent. I will give it a try right now.
[18:25] <sharon> I am using the latest 8.10 version.
[18:25] <charlie-tca> network manager should be two computers on the top panel
[18:27] <sharon> Yes I tried clicking on the 2 computers at the top. It identified my wired conection but not the wireless capability.
[18:29] <sharon> I have tried both lspci or sudo lshw and there is a lot of information on both. What should I be looking for?
[18:30] <Pres-Gas> What is the model of laptop, sharon and are you using a removable pcmcia card for it?
[18:30] <sharon> The Laptop is an E-system from PC world.
[18:31] <sharon> It has an Intel Celeron M410 1.46GHz processor.
[18:31] <sharon> It claims Intel Pro Wireless3945abg on a sticker on the front.
[18:32] <sharon> Wireless has worked previously with Windows XP.
[18:32] <sharon> The Wireless is in built as far as I can see.
[18:33] <sharon> It only has 256MiB of main memory.
[18:35] <Pres-Gas> Which E-system is it?  Model number.
[18:36] <sharon> I think the model number is 3085
[18:39] <sharon> I have looked carefully through the output of the lspci coand and I can't find anything wireless. The nearest is the ethernet adaptor as follows.
[18:40] <sharon> Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
[18:41] <sharon> Everything else is either USB, IDE SMBuS or PCI.
[18:44] <likemindead> :(
[18:44] <sharon> Any morethoughts from anyone?
[18:46] <sharon> Am I asking the impossible here? Will I have to write my own device driver?
[19:00] <sharon> Perhaps I will go back to XP in this case.
[19:30] <likemindead> Can anyone help me with dial up? I've connected to my ISP via gnome-ppp and an external serial 56k modem. Now how to I "get online" with FireFox?
[19:31] <charlie-tca> in firefox, click file and make sure "work offline" is unchecked?
[19:32] <likemindead> Hahaha... That's it!?
[19:32] <likemindead> Thank you!!!
[19:32]  * likemindead turns red. ::)
[19:33] <charlie-tca> You're welcome. :-)
[19:33] <Pres-Gas> likemindead, well if you started it before you dialed in, it may tend to stay offline.
[19:33] <Pres-Gas> So it is easy to miss
[19:33] <likemindead> Noted.
[20:28] <MisterFlibble> Is there a way to make epiphany's extensions work with Epiphany-Webkit?
[20:43] <Ratty> Has anyone ran into the problem fter upgrading the kernel you get at bootup: ALERT: /dev/disk/by-uuid/....
[20:44] <Ratty> Does not exist
[20:44] <Ratty> Dropping to shell....
[20:45] <timri> Ratty: Yes, when I'am messing with my partitions. Use vol_id to find the correct uuid and modify fstab accordingly
[20:47] <Ratty> Timri: ok thanks, will check that out
[20:48] <timri> Ratty: Oh, and you should modify /boot/grub/menu.lst as well
[20:50] <timri> Has anyone experience with CalDav/iCal/... servers in *buntu ?
[20:54] <my_key> timri: http://rscds.sourceforge.net/installation.php
[20:54] <my_key> very easy
[20:55] <my_key> there's an ubuntu wiki article on caldav, but as you can read here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CalendarServer)  it won't be as easy as davical is
[20:56] <timri> my_key: Thanks. I read the ubuntu wiki entry, but the "Alpha" warning threw me off.
[20:58] <my_key> understandable :)
[21:01] <my_key> althoug davical isn't 1.x yet, but 0.x i find it working fine for me
[21:02] <my_key> bare in mind: I only run this in a home network environment, so I don't know how well it scales
[21:02] <Ratty> Timri: it still does not seem to work after going over it twice. I know it is the correct uuid.
[21:03] <timri> Ratty: you could always use "normal" partition syntax like /dev/sda6 etc
[21:03] <Ratty> Tryed that also
[21:04] <timri> my_key: I Think I'll try out davical, thanks.
[21:04] <timri> Ratty: ouch.
[21:06] <my_key> timri: no problem
[21:30] <RediXe> Anyone use xmonad with xubuntu?
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> RediXe: i use xmonad with gnome...
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> and i have used xmonad standalone.
[21:36] <RediXe> I tried to use it standalone but I just get a blank screen :/
[21:36] <RediXe> used the deb package
[21:36] <RediXe> also tried apt-get both give same result
[21:38] <RediXe> When running inside xfce I get http://pastie.org/362840
[21:38] <RediXe> I believe second error is from me running xfce but I can't figure out the first one
[22:00] <RediXe> Odd-rationale: I found a guide for running xmonad with xfce :) bad news is that it's still having issue's with that first error
[22:47] <BattleStarJesus> I am trying to configure a desktop to preform as a wireless access point.  I am having trouble finging a proper tutorial that I can follow.  What method should I use?
[23:06] <Odd-rationale> BattleStarJesus: i know firestarter has a way to do something like that easily... i'm not sure whether it can work for wireless AP, though. http://www.fs-security.com/
[23:06] <Odd-rationale> http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[23:21] <brian17> hello
[23:21] <brian17> i installed xubuntu
[23:22] <brian17> i have 2 hard drives
[23:22] <brian17> but i only see one
[23:22] <brian17> how do i see both
[23:22] <rdehler> i'm on intrepid, cannot get flash 10 to work with firefox. about:plugins in forefox shows Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15 enabled, but flash won't show up on pages I visit
[23:22] <brian17> mepis linux and puppy linux see both, so this is xubuntu problem
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> brian17: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (lowercase L) in a terminal.
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: how did you install flash?
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> !pastebin | brian17
[23:23] <rdehler> Odd-rationale: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-flash-player-10.html
[23:23] <rdehler> neither first nor second method worked
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> here;s the link ^
[23:24] <Odd-rationale> hmm...
[23:24] <Odd-rationale> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: what version of xubuntu you got?
[23:25] <rdehler> Odd-rationale: 8.10
[23:25] <brian17> is there anything special i need to do to see multiple hard drives?
[23:26] <brian17> if it is working where should i see the second one?
[23:26] <rdehler> fully updated...
[23:26] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: ok. well apearently flash 10 is already in the official repos... let's first undo what that link tells you to do...
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> brian17: no you shouldn't have to do anything special... what are the drives formatted as? ntfs? fat32?
[23:27] <rdehler> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree: Download done. Flash Plugin installed.
[23:28] <rdehler> alas, nada
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: did you undo what that linke told you do to first?
[23:28] <rdehler> yes
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: how?
[23:29] <rdehler> deleted the .so in ~/.mozilla/plugins and did apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: check synaptics for "install_flash_player_10_linux"
[23:30] <rdehler> by synaptics you mean...?
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> Applications --> system --> synaptic package manager
[23:31] <rdehler> k
[23:31] <rdehler> haven't used this in forever :)
[23:32] <brian17> i have /dev/sdb1 as ext3
[23:32] <rdehler> no results
[23:32] <brian17> i dont see it on destkop
[23:32] <brian17> what gives
[23:32] <brian17> how do i mount it
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: actually, look for "adobe-flashplugin"
[23:33] <rdehler> it was installed
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> brian17: so sudo fdisk -l give both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb ?
[23:33] <brian17> yes
[23:33] <brian17> well
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: ok. competely remove it. and completely remobe flashplugin-nonfree
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> *remove
[23:33] <brian17> actually i saw sdb1 in gparted
[23:33] <rdehler> k done
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> brian17: hmm... ok well then try "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt" then browse to mount. see if that works...
[23:34] <brian17> its also in fdisk
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: close firefox. and do you have any important bookmarks, etc. in firefox? if not, i would remove your ~/.mozilla directory for good measures...
[23:35] <rdehler> i'll back it up
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> brian17: sorry meant to say, try "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt" then browse to /mnt
[23:36] <brian17> is the space needed in the mount command
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> brian17: you mean disk space on /mnt ? no.
[23:37] <brian17> no
[23:37] <brian17> you have a space:
[23:37] <brian17> sdb1 SPACE /mnt
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> brian17: oh. yes. :)
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> sudo mount <device> <mount_point>
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> /dev/sdb1 is our device. /mnt is our mount point
[23:38] <brian17> dev/sdb1 does not exist
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> /dev/sdb1
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> not dev/sdb1
[23:40] <brian17> ok that worked
[23:40] <brian17> but how do i access drive
[23:40] <rdehler> hmm remove --purge'd all flash plugins, removed .mozilla and started firefox, it says flash 9 is installed =\
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> brian17: browse to /mnt in your file browser
[23:40] <brian17> wtf
[23:40] <brian17> lost+found
[23:40] <brian17> is only thing in mnt
[23:41] <brian17> sorry for saying wtf
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> brian17: is the drive empty?
[23:41] <brian17> my irc client was not sending message - i was testing
[23:41] <brian17> yes
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> brian17: ok. lost+found is always on all ext3 partitoins
[23:41] <brian17> why doesnt hard drive appear on desktop
[23:41] <brian17> like most distros
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: try installing xubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> brian17: idk...
[23:42] <brian17> hmm
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> brian17: you probably don't have write access to the drive right now as user... you will have to write as root...
[23:43] <brian17> lame
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> you will have to add an entry in you /etc/fstab file so that it get's mounted at boot time. and you can get write access.
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> !fstab
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> that will tell you how it is done...
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> if i had the time, i would walk you through it...
[23:46] <rdehler> same issue, flash 9 installed
[23:46] <rdehler> blarg!
[23:47] <rdehler> now that i have a "fresh" mozilla, let me try that link i had again
[23:47] <Odd-rationale> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[23:47] <Odd-rationale> hmm... it says version 10...
[23:47] <rdehler> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[23:48] <Odd-rationale> rdehler: does the flash 9 at least show flash content?
[23:48] <rdehler> yes, but its' REALLY laggy
[23:48] <rdehler> i don't think it's really flash 9, i think it's some open source derivative
[23:49] <rdehler> i have to press a grey play button on each embedded flash before it will "play" and it is very laggy and gets my cpu to 100%
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> ok... well the one in the link you gave is probably not officially supported here...
[23:50] <rdehler> ok i didn't do it
[23:50] <rdehler> i'm just trying to get it to work
[23:50] <rdehler> do you have more things to try? :)
[23:51] <rdehler> i remember at first with firefox i went to a flash plugin and mozilla  had me choose from a few flash plugins
[23:51] <rdehler> but i don't see any of these to remove
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> idk... sometimes i get lagging flash when i had the mplayer-plugin installed... i don't know whether you do. or whether that may be the issue...
[23:52] <rdehler> one was like gnash one was openswf or something
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> swfdec?
[23:52] <rdehler> yes perhaps
[23:52] <rdehler> honestly don't remember
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> gnash is proabaly not very stable... i haven't tried swfdec...
[23:53] <rdehler> i   swfdec-mozilla
[23:53] <rdehler> that's gotta be it
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> you might want to remove it if you do have it installed... i find that things don't work too well if you have more than one type of flash installed...
[23:55] <rdehler> that was it!
[23:55] <rdehler> plays like a charm now, fast as heck
[23:55] <rdehler> thanks Odd-rationale
[23:55] <rdehler> just had to remove swfdec and reinstall
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> np
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> that's what we're here for :D