[00:00] <FisherPrice> mrdigital: it looks like there's a lot of problems with the 8.10 live cd
[00:00] <Stalker72> yeah :P
[00:00] <FisherPrice> mrdigital: just a question... you wouldn't have an nvidia card would you?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: c966147dda3bd6139db507af054692ee  ./netboot/mini.iso
[00:01] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: What do I do with that?
[00:01] <mrdigital> yeaaaaaaah
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: run md5 <iso file>
[00:02] <FisherPrice> ActionParsnip: are part of the ubuntu support team?
[00:02] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: Where do I type that?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> md5sum filename sorry
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> in a konsole
[00:02] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: On the PC I'm installing Kubuntu on?
[00:03] <mrdigital> yes i got nvidia
[00:03] <mrdigital> pci express
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: any system, just need to test the image so yuo know its good
[00:03] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: OOOhh.. :P
[00:03] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: Sorry for being n00b. ;)
[00:04] <FisherPrice> mrdigital: it looks like many nvidia fans are getting similar problems... i assume u've checked the cd for errors... others have burned the cd iso to dvd...
[00:04] <mrdigital> the md5 matches
[00:04] <mrdigital> and yes i burned the iso to a dvd
[00:04] <FisherPrice> mrdigital: I've tried booting the livecd with "Safe Graphics" with mixed success
[00:05] <mrdigital> safe graphics does nothing
[00:06] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/105749/
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: md5sum ./mini.iso
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: no command ni linux starts with "run"
[00:07] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:07] <DasEI>  mrdigital: ?? did you burn a cd-iso to dvd ??
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: thats me telling youto "run" the command
[00:07] <mrdigital> yes
[00:07] <mrdigital> i did daesi
[00:07] <mrdigital> dasei
[00:07] <DasEI> !who | mrdigital
[00:07] <DasEI>  mrdigital: that won't work
[00:08] <mrdigital> oh ok
[00:08] <mrdigital> sometimes it does
[00:08] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: md5sum: ./mini.iso: No such file or directory
[00:08] <DasEI>  mrdigital: cd iso for cd,  dvd-iso for dvd
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: you need to run the command when the terminal path is in the same folder as where you downloaded the iso to
[00:08] <ghostcube> hmm alternate cd image works fine for installation on dvd rom
[00:09] <c0debr8ker> i burned cd iso to  dvd and it worked......... wouldnt install burning it to cd for me
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: or you can specify the full path to the file
[00:09] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:10] <cplusplus> yasm is not existing in version 0.6.1 for kubuntu 6?
[00:10] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: What if it's on the desktop?
[00:10] <DasEI>  Stalker72: mdsum ~/Desktop/file-whatever
[00:10] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  Kubuntu 6.xx would be getting a bit out of date.
[00:10] <DasEI>  Stalker72: md5sum ~/Desktop/file-whatever
[00:10] <cplusplus> Found yasm 0.4.0
[00:10] <cplusplus> Minimum version is yasm-0.6.1
[00:11] <cplusplus> <Dr_willis how could i update?
[00:11] <Dr_willis> !update
[00:11] <cplusplus> will i need a new livecd?
[00:11] <Dr_willis> see the instructions.. I always do new clean reinstalls
[00:11] <Dr_willis> I rarely 'update/upgrade' to the next release
[00:11] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: c966147dda3bd6139db507af054692ee  /home/mats/Desktop/mini.iso
[00:12] <cplusplus> i dont have a cd for burning the livd cd!!!
[00:12] <cplusplus> ;/
[00:12] <cplusplus> @Dr_willis
[00:12] <mrdigital> cplusplus: use network install
[00:12] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  I use unetbootin to make bootble thumb drives i install from.
[00:12] <cplusplus> is command update not allowed?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> You May bve able to update/upgrade to the next release.. See the Instructions
[00:13] <Dr_willis> ivce had to many issues with updateing from one release to the next.. I now always try to do clean installs
[00:14] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: c966147dda3bd6139db507af054692ee  /home/mats/Desktop/mini.iso
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: if you compare that to the code I gave you earlier, yuo wwill see it matches exactly
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/105749/
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> remember that
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> so you know the image is good
[00:15] <Stalker72> yeah
[00:15] <Stalker72> thx
[00:15] <Stalker72> now I try to boot to it?
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> yeah oot the image in a vm or burn to cd and boot to that
[00:16] <Stalker72> I have burned it.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> ok boot to the cd and off you go
[00:16] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: Do you think that will solve the problem? :P
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Stalker72: its just another way to install, it may work
[00:17] <mrdigital> i put kubuntu 8.10 live cd in a virtual machine it still does it
[00:17] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: I'll try it right before I go to bed. Cya and thx! :)
[00:17] <Stalker72> ActionParsnip: I will report back.
[00:17] <gerald> i dont have a System/Administration/Update Mana
[00:17] <gerald> to upgrade from kubuntu 6 to 8
[00:17] <gerald> ;/
[00:18] <gerald> System/Administration/Update Manager
[00:18] <gerald> i do a sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[00:19] <Dr_willis> !update
[00:19] <Dr_willis> System/Admin/Update -> isent that the gnome menu sequence? I forget..
[00:19] <mrdigital> aha diff cheksum
[00:19] <DasEI> gerald: as Dr_willis said, fresh installs are always safer, but after that, : sudo update-manager-core  ??
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: bad image then as  long as you are reading the right md5sum
[00:20] <Dr_willis> I never have figured out how you make the cd image boot and be able to checksum itself.. It you put a checksum file on the cd..  How did the checksum get calculated without that file being there in the first place
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: if its bad you gotta redownload
[00:20] <gerald> i dont want to clear my partition;/
[00:20] <mrdigital> 24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03 is that the right checksum
[00:21] <DasEI> mrdigital: you get the correct sum from the place you d/l 'ed the iso from
[00:21] <mrdigital> which is kubuntu.org
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: thats the ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: not kubuntu
[00:22] <mrdigital> can someone point me to the right checksum
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: what filename do you have?
[00:23] <mrdigital> kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes shows it as: 04a2c5c8f394175e6d6579e626995c7a
[00:24] <mrdigital> i dont have alternative
[00:25] <mrdigital> 82c02dc7386dfb6858a9ec09a5059e1e
[00:25] <mrdigital> 	
[00:25] <mrdigital> 	
[00:25] <mrdigital> kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[00:25] <mrdigital> thats the one i hve
[00:25] <mrdigital> the checksum matches
[00:25] <mrdigital> im trying 8.04
[00:25] <gerald> hm
[00:26] <mrdigital> if i dont use safe graphics
[00:26] <mrdigital> i get a purple box
[00:27] <gerald> will i need to uninstall kubuntu when i have the new live cd?
[00:28] <gerald> Dr_willis, i do this way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[00:28] <gerald> Upgrading by changing sources and the command line
[00:28] <gerald> thats ok?
[00:31] <philsf> I don't know what I did, but now every event I create in kontact is a groupware event, with me as atendee and organizer. Disabling groupware in the korganizer preferences doesn't stop this behavior. How can I disable this?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: what video card?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> philsf: i dont use it myself, good decription though, maybe someone else can help
[00:32] <m_tadeu> is it possi ble to get the external ip from my router?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> philsf: have you tried uninstalling with --purge and also removing all config for kontact (if this will not destroy data)
[00:34] <philsf> ActionParsnip: I didn't. I assume It's a matter of my personal config, rather than the package's
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: cd ~/; wget -q http://checkip.dyndns.org/; cat ~/index.html
[00:34] <philsf> am I m missing something?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> philsf: then reinstall it if you suspect the package
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: you can use this script but just output the resulting ip: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-373963.html
[00:35] <ruhaan_jslip> how do i create an adhoc network in kubuntu?
[00:35] <mrdigital> GF 6200
[00:36] <Dr_willis> gerald,  ive never done that task..   so i cant say.  Follow the docs and see I guess.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: that card is hugely supported: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-settings nvidia-177-kernel-source; kdesudo nvidia-settings
[00:37] <FisherPrice> ActionParsnip: but mrdigital can't get the livecd to boot
[00:37] <PSiL0> !fstab
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: if you get a message about nvidia-xconfig, close the app and run: sudo nvidia-xconfig and restart x server, then rerun kdesudo nvidia-settings
[00:37] <FisherPrice> mrdigital: can you get the livecd to boot with the "Safe Graphics" mode?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: check ram for errors
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> mrdigital: also try disabling acpi and dma
[00:39]  * cuznt disables himeself...                       no wait...
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[00:39] <mrdigital> i solved graphics
[00:39] <mrdigital> problem
[00:39] <mrdigital> its the nvidia card
[00:39] <mrdigital> working fine off onboard
[00:40] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: np bro, its not graceful but it works ;)
[00:41] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: I was hopping for a linux command :) but....it does the job
[00:42] <stodge> I can't get sound to work under 8.04 - the correct driver (snd-usb-caiaq) is loaded, but it's not being used. If I select ALSA in system configuration, the sound server crashes. Selecting OSS does nothing. Any ideas?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: theres the full script which works to remove the extra gumf from the file
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: the linux command will show the ip of the local interfaces
[00:44] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: yup....I was hopping for an unknown harcore linux command, hehe
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: you can use that stuff in the page and write it to a script, then run the script whenever you want to know the ip
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: you could run the script but add a line to cat the file, then rm the file so it's like it never existed
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[00:47] <m_tadeu> yes :) thanks
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: will teach you some scripting shizz
[00:49] <stodge> Why is sound so hard to get working under linux and kde
[00:50] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: I never deal very well with bash :P
[00:50] <FisherPrice> bash is cool... much better than doss
[00:50] <FisherPrice> lol
[00:51] <m_tadeu> FisherPrice: too used to non-scripting languages, I guess
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> dos is pathetic in comparison
[00:51] <FisherPrice> yeah,
[00:51] <FisherPrice> I've dabbled in most
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> if you use windows and want power, install powershell
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> powershell is badass
[00:52] <FisherPrice> yeah the only way to get any power in windows dos is by 3rd party add-ons
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> we use powershellat work to ask all our sql servers if their backups passed and rerun whatever hasnt passed
[00:53] <faileas> er... windows dos?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> its powershell
[00:54] <m_tadeu> stodge: what are you finding hard?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> powershell > dos
[00:54] <BluesKaj> msdos maybe
[00:54] <faileas> FisherPrice: only cause linux is (in one aspect) designed around a terminal...
[00:54] <faileas> ActionParsnip: i need to learn that at some point
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> faileas: you wont regret it
[00:54] <stodge> m_tadeu: trying to get sound working on 8.04.
[00:55] <faileas> ActionParsnip: i just need to find the time, oh, and to feel like using my windows box ;p
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> faileas: theres a #powershell n freenode :)
[00:55] <FisherPrice> faileas: yes, from the ground up it's sorta based around the terminal as a gateway to the kernal
[00:55] <FisherPrice> i guess
[00:55] <faileas> ActionParsnip: i still need to use windows ;p
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> faileas: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/powershell
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> faileas: no need for windows :)
[00:56] <faileas> .... wha?
[00:56] <m_tadeu> stodge: maybe you should try the #alsa for better info
[00:56] <stodge> maybe I should
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> faileas: no foolin
[00:57] <faileas> ActionParsnip: lol. would it work with yakuake? ;p
[00:58] <m_tadeu> what's all about powershell?
[00:58] <cuznt> my turtle has a powershell
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> faileas: cant see why not, yakuake is the balls
[00:58] <faileas> m_tadeu: oh the windows version is a non retarded CLI with an awesome scripting language. apparently someone at ms decided to try catch up ;p
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: its an awesome interface you can use to access and manipulate systems and remote systems too
[00:59] <m_tadeu> graphical or console?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: it can do anything on a system you can do locally, you can write a script to sequentially run through a text file of systems and run a certain command
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: all console based
[01:00] <m_tadeu> so it's bash+ssh :D
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: its excellent when you have several hundred thosand servers
[01:00] <faileas> ActionParsnip: ;). can't live without it. actually its one reason why i prefer KDE over gnome
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> faileas: i just luse cli loads and use kde so yakuake is a natural option
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> faileas: if i used gnome id be all about tilda
[01:01] <m_tadeu> installing to check it out
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: pretty much, we use it to check uptimes and read event viewer for issues matching a certain filter for a date range
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: we also hit redgate with it to magage sql backups
[01:03] <m_tadeu> but you only need that on windows machines....? I mean...under linux it makes no advantage, right?
[01:03] <stodge> #alsa is dead
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: it interfaces to windows for sure, not sure for linux servers
[01:04] <m_tadeu> stodge: the guys might be asleep...or out for friday night fever :) leave the question...it'll probably be answerd latter
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> m_tadeu: you could easily script something similar without having to install powershell on the system running the script
[01:05] <stodge> ok
[01:05] <m_tadeu> stodge: have you googled for your sound card and ubuntu?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> stodge: lspci will identify it
[01:06] <stodge> It's detected according to aplay -l
[01:06] <stodge> and asoundconf list
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> but....
[01:07] <stodge> It's the third device
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> is it muted?#
[01:08] <m_tadeu> ahhh I recall that kde has a new sound config app
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> kmix ?
[01:08] <ghostcube> this one has face detection biometric
[01:08] <ghostcube> u cant open it withoiut fingerprint and face detection
[01:08] <ghostcube> lol
[01:08] <m_tadeu> systemsettings -> multimedia
[01:08] <ghostcube> ups wron channel
[01:08] <ghostcube> :
[01:09] <m_tadeu> stodge: what version of kde are you using?
[01:09] <stodge> 3.5.10
[01:10] <stodge> Alsa guys have responded.
[01:10] <m_tadeu> cool...did it help?
[01:11] <stodge> Still working it through
[01:11] <stodge> Thanks :)
[01:14] <wesley> how can i patch iso´s in linux using ppf patches
[01:14] <cyberponix> Does anyone know why a network card would not work after an install of linux
[01:14] <wesley> Acorrding the local pc seller, that would be because Linux is crap
[01:14] <wesley> And under Windows works everthing
[01:15] <wesley> According to him
[01:15] <cyberponix> well that local pc deal is a dumbass
[01:15] <cyberponix> winblows lol
[01:15] <wesley> I know, i came there asking for a wlan stick
[01:16] <wesley> Man ive problems patching my iso
[01:16] <cyberponix> linksys work great with linux
[01:16] <cyberponix> belkin works good too
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> wesley: your seller is ignorant
[01:16] <wesley> Sometimes Ubuntu is stubborn, and even when you bug it they dont include the fix ( Talking about athreos 5007eg
[01:16] <cyberponix> i dunno what to tell you about the iso
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> most linksys routers actually run a linux based OS
[01:17] <wesley> ActionParsnip i didnt buy it
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | wesley
[01:17] <Dr_willis> wesley, I would have to ask him why i have several Network cards that dotn work under wiondows... but then again.. hes just proven  that hes knows very little about things.
[01:17] <cyberponix> hey action... I finally got it installed!!!!
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> wesley: my netgear WG311T works out of the box
[01:18] <wesley> Dr_willis i don´t go that far agains old guys
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: got what installed?
[01:18] <cyberponix> thanx for your help
[01:18] <cyberponix> kubuntu
[01:18] <wesley> my wlan works after installing madwifi 10.5.6
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: sweet, wtg
[01:18] <cyberponix> on the acer you helped earlyier
[01:18] <wesley> again out of memory
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: was it the acpi thing?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> about the onlyu network cards ive had issues with under linux were the 8139cp/8139too  ones. that often got confused and the wrong module got loaded for them..  and this One i got now - has some buggy drivers... of course Windows  couldent fiure out what driver to use either.
[01:19]  * ActionParsnip hates acer greatly
[01:19] <wesley> Acer isnt bad, but they arent great for hacking
[01:19] <m_tadeu> talking about athreos....yesterday I couldn't get kubuntu to work with an athreos 5001
[01:19] <wesley> m_tadeu maby trying installing madwifi trunk 10.5.6
[01:19] <cyberponix> no actually I had to run it in graphics safe mode 7.10 and still do the f6 and the xforcevesa
[01:20] <cyberponix> atheros .... oh yea my toshiba had that
[01:20] <m_tadeu> wifi would be the onlyy connection I could get at that moment
[01:20] <cyberponix> madwifi is what you need
[01:20] <wesley> I dont care if i have only wifi
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> cyberponix: well as long as you win its awesome
[01:21] <m_tadeu> wesley: I would have to get the sources....and I needed build-essentials and gcc to build it
[01:21] <cyberponix> I have not won just yet... I have no network connection .... however while winblows was installed it worked
[01:21] <m_tadeu> and all dependencies
[01:21] <wesley> Man i hate bugging on the moment, because ive relation problems, i should just look for a hot chick from uk or russiAN
[01:21] <wesley> m_tadeu thats right, and then make sudo make install
[01:22] <cyberponix> wesley you need madwifi
[01:22] <wesley> madwifi 10.5.6 do you need
[01:22] <cyberponix> that how I got my atheros working
[01:22] <wesley> cyberponix, sometimes you need the trunk off madwifu
[01:22] <wesley> thats what i did, and i reported and even posted the source, but no still not in kubuntu
[01:23] <PSiL0> is there a list of DAPs that synch seamlessly with amarok?
[01:23] <m_tadeu> wesley: it was a fresh install....so build tools were not installed....couldn't build and couldn't get madwifi
[01:23] <wesley> build tools are on the live cd
[01:23] <wesley> just have to mark live cd as a source
[01:24] <m_tadeu> wesley: really? how idiot :S
[01:24] <cyberponix> http://madwifi-project.org/users-guide/
[01:24] <PSiL0> nm http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Devices
[01:24] <wesley> m_tadeu, no thats good, if you only have wlan
[01:25] <m_tadeu> wesley: I meant....me, idiot....I tought it waas only on the repo and didn't even check the livecd
[01:26] <wesley> i didnt know that always
[01:28] <wesley> man why does that patching need to be that hard
[01:30] <wesley> someone knows how it easy to patch iso´s with ppf patches
[01:36] <cyberponix> Does anyone know why a network card would not work after an install of linux
[01:36] <wesley> because there are no driver included
[01:36] <cyberponix> The devise is not even registering
[01:37] <cyberponix> i am getting very frusterated
[01:37] <cyberponix> everyother install I have ever done went great... now this computer is being an ass
[01:40] <Haza> Evening again gents. Any recommendations on a GUI tool to convert .ogg to .swf ?
[01:47] <BluesKaj> Haza, soundkonverter
[01:47] <Haza> BlueEagle: Cheers mate. I will check it out
[01:49] <BluesKaj> Haza , not sure about swf ..what is that
[01:49] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:49] <Haza> BlueEagle: Its flash mate
[01:50] <Haza> My .ogg's are video tutorials for open source BI
[01:50] <BluesKaj> oh video?
[01:50] <BluesKaj> soundconverter is just audio
[01:50] <Haza> I need to convert them into swf to embed into webpages more easily
[01:51] <Haza> aye.. just sound it looks like
[01:51] <BluesKaj> ok, I should have known , but I don't fool with flash or youtube stuff
[01:51] <Haza> BlueEagle: Neither do i. But i do create tutorials ;)
[01:52] <cyberponix> Does anyone know why a network card would not work after an install of linux not device eth0
[01:53] <cyberponix> not = no
[01:54] <Ketrel> Has anyone figured out anything about the problem with blank TTYs with nvidia drivers?
[01:54] <wesley> if it not works you dont have the right driver
[01:54] <BluesKaj> cyberponix, have you tried the knetworkmanager ?
[01:54] <Ketrel> wesley: if that was at me, that's not correct
[01:54] <cyberponix> yes
[01:54] <cyberponix> its like its not even there
[01:55] <ghostcube> cyberponix, what card is this ? marvell based ?
[01:55] <wesley> no was for cyber, ive had it with my wlan, downloading wrong drivers and stuff
[01:55] <cyberponix> nivida
[01:55] <ghostcube> nforce chipset ?
[01:55] <cyberponix> would ndiswrapper hel?p
[01:56] <cyberponix> nvidia
[01:56] <ghostcube> :|
[01:57] <ghostcube> whats the board
[01:58] <cyberponix> ethernet controller nvida corp unknown device 0760
[01:59] <cyberponix> luckly I have more than one computer lol
[01:59] <cyberponix> NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 motherboard
[02:02] <m_tadeu> has someone checked what happens to kde4.2rc1 when you run open office writer?
[02:02] <BluesKaj> cyberponix, lspci | grep Ethernet
[02:03] <m_tadeu> plasma goes totally bezerk
[02:04] <cyberponix> ethernet controller: nvida corp unknown device 0760
[02:04] <andypls1> guys my resolution is screwed
[02:04] <andypls1> and i can't fix it
[02:04] <andypls1> can anyone help me
[02:04] <andypls1> ?
[02:08] <m_tadeu> do you have a nvidia card?
[02:08] <andypls1> yes
[02:08] <andypls1> and i messed up something and i don't even know what i did wrong
[02:08] <m_tadeu> did you install the nvidia proprietary driver?
[02:08] <stodge> Holy moly Firefox is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
[02:08] <cyberponix> where do I get that?
[02:09] <andypls1> i installed apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[02:09] <cyberponix> if I cant get the comp online?
[02:09] <m_tadeu> try to run nvidia-settings
[02:10] <ghostcube> vidia graphics driver for ethernet ?
[02:11] <r2b2> hello , im about to buy a tv card for my kubuntu 8.04 box
[02:11] <ghostcube> cyberponix, what distrie is this
[02:11] <ghostcube> better what kernel is this
[02:12] <r2b2> and im planning to buy this : http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=18&l2=83&l3=253&model=592&modelmenu=1
[02:13] <r2b2> is it compatible?
[02:13] <andypls1> m_tadeu: its telling me that i am not using the Nvidia driver, and i have to edit the X cofiguration file
[02:13] <m_tadeu> andypls1: not yet
[02:14] <m_tadeu> what version of kubuntu are you using?
[02:14] <andypls1> 7.11
[02:14] <m_tadeu> 7.10? :)
[02:15] <andypls1> yes
[02:15] <m_tadeu> you should have a hardware driver utility
[02:15] <andypls1> yes i know
[02:15] <andypls1> and i am choosic nvidia 8 from the list
[02:15] <m_tadeu> maybe in the system menu
[02:15] <andypls1> its not doing anything
[02:15] <cyberponix> what do u mean ghost
[02:16] <cyberponix> distro?
[02:16] <cyberponix> kubuntu 7.10 the onl one I could get to install
[02:17] <m_tadeu> well, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:17] <m_tadeu> search for nv and replace with nvidia
[02:19] <andypls1> are you sure?
[02:19] <r2b2> hello , im about to buy a tv card for my kubuntu 8.04 box  and im planning to buy this : http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=18&l2=83&l3=253&model=592&modelmenu=1 ....my question is it compatible and supported?
[02:20] <m_tadeu> andypls1: if it doesn't load X, type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it back
[02:20] <Dr_willis> r2b2,  i would check the MythTV forums for recies of that card and see what others think of it.
[02:20] <andypls1> ok gimme some time
[02:20] <Dr_willis> for reviews. :)
[02:21] <SkEmO> how is it that if i run the kubuntu live cd it DOES detect my wireles car, but if i install it it doesent?
[02:22] <SkEmO> card^
[02:22] <mefisto__> Haza: you still there?
[02:22] <Haza> mefisto__: Hello sir!
[02:22] <mefisto__> Haza: you trying to do video screen capture, right?
[02:23] <Haza> Indeed mate. I use Isyanbul
[02:23] <Haza> *istanbul
[02:23] <SkEmO> anyone has any idea?
[02:23] <mefisto__> Haza: you might want to try xvidcap. it can create swf or flv directly, so no need to convert anything
[02:24] <Dr_willis> SkEmO,  i would think its just a configurationissue then on theinstalled system
[02:24] <Haza> mefisto__: Its funny you say that... I already installed it a while back
[02:24] <Haza> I installed a couple of screen capturing software packages
[02:24] <mefisto__> me too
[02:24]  * Haza loads it up to remind himself
[02:25] <mefisto__> istanbul is nice and easy, but xvidcap is more flexible
[02:25] <Haza> Ahhh i remember this one. I can't remember why i decided not to use it...
[02:25] <Haza> Gonna give it a test
[02:25] <Haza> oh wait!
[02:25] <Haza> I remember
[02:25] <Haza> mefisto__: When i click the record button the application bombs out on me :)
[02:25] <Haza> reasons... unknown :)
[02:25] <mefisto__> ok
[02:26] <Haza> mefisto__: Any thoughts?
[02:26] <Haza> I could even make you a video of what happens using Instanbul :D
[02:27] <SkEmO> Dr_willis: and how can i change it?
[02:27] <mefisto__> same problem here too Haza
[02:27] <HighHo> Haza: try lanching from konsole and see what it outputs when it crashs
[02:27] <Haza> HighHo: Okay mate. I'll give thata shot
[02:27] <Haza> mefisto__: You having the same problem?
[02:30] <szrhawaii> Dr_willis can you help me with a problem not sure if you ran across this yet
[02:30] <andypls1> hello?
[02:30] <szrhawaii> I downloaded some packages then when i restart my computer it says panel error and runs my stuff in gnome setting instead of kde
[02:31] <Haza> HighHo: "Segmentation fault"  <--- error message
[02:31] <Haza> Your guess is as good as mine
[02:31] <Haza> Im used to large error logs ;)
[02:31] <SkEmO> !wireless
[02:33] <Dr_willis> all i do for wireless on my system is install the b43-fwcutter package and then use the icons in the panel.. enter ssid/password and away i go
[02:34] <mefisto__> Haza: do you need audio? if I disable audio capture it works
[02:34] <HighHo> Haza: are you using kde4 or kde3?
[02:34] <andypls1> m_tadeu: are u there?
[02:35] <Haza> HighHo: umm, might seem like a silly question.. but i cannot remember
[02:35] <Haza> How do i find out? :)
[02:35] <Haza> I installed this system 6+ months ago at least
[02:36] <m_tadeu> andypls1: i'm here
[02:36] <andypls1> m_tadeu: i'll tell you in a minute ok
[02:36] <m_tadeu> ok
[02:36] <HighHo> Haza: its probably kde3, but you can check by opening a kde application, clicking help and then "about kde"
[02:37] <Haza> HighHo: 3.5.10
[02:37] <Haza> mefisto__: How did you disable sound?
[02:38] <mefisto__> Haza: right-click the button on the left to get to preferences
[02:38] <Haza> I did that aye
[02:38] <mefisto__> Haza: go to multi-frame tab and switch "enable audio" off
[02:39] <mefisto__> Haza: also make sure the file you're creating is being saved somewhere in your home dir or desktop (where you have write permission)
[02:40] <mefisto__> Haza: and give the file a swf extension if you want swf
[02:40] <Haza> mefisto__: Right. Just testing
[02:41] <SkEmO> im doing the b43-fwcutter thing
[02:41] <SkEmO> what after?
[02:41] <Haza> hmm
[02:42] <Haza> mefisto__: Can you play the vidio directly afte you hit the stop button?
[02:42] <mefisto__> Haza: yes, it plays it in mplayer
[02:43] <Haza> hmm
[02:43] <mefisto__> not working for you?
[02:43] <Haza> My output test.* files are okb's big =/
[02:43] <Haza> *0kb's
[02:44] <Haza> I could just do what ive been doing so far of course... tell people to either install linix or download VLC to play my video's
[02:44] <Haza> Both decent suggestions :D
[02:48] <BluesKaj> well VLC works on most OS's anyway
[02:49] <Haza> BlueEagle: Exactly!
[02:49] <cyberponix> Ok I have searched and searched... I need help to find and get my ethernet working fresh install brand new computer
[02:49] <cyberponix> 7.10
[02:50] <cyberponix> NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 motherboard
[02:51]  * Haza waits for the next installment of cyberponix's question...
[02:51] <cyberponix> what more info do u need?
[02:52] <SkEmO> ok
[02:52] <Haza> Thats all i need.
[02:52] <HighHo> cyberponix: are you saying the ethernet port is not detected?
[02:52] <cyberponix> right
[02:52]  * Haza goes to check his crystal ball
[02:52] <SkEmO> i installed the b43-fwcutter
[02:52] <SkEmO> but, what icons?
[02:52] <m_tadeu> andypls1: how things worked out?
[02:52] <SkEmO> what screen you talk about Dr_willis?
[02:53] <HighHo> cyberponix: open a konsole window and type "ifconfig"
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[02:53] <SkEmO> anyway
[02:53] <SkEmO> i open the hardware device manager
[02:53] <SkEmO> and the driver for the wireless card is detected
[02:53] <SkEmO> now what do i do to make it appear on my taskbar?
[02:53] <andypls1> m_tadeu: i am still trying :(
[02:55] <m_tadeu> nvidia driver doesn't work?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> did you tell the hardware devief manager to install the driver SkEmO ?
[02:55] <SkEmO> uhm
[02:55] <SkEmO> no, i did the b43-fwcutter and it got recognized
[02:55] <cyberponix> the paste link?
[02:56] <andypls1> when i run nvedia-settings, it's saying that i am not using nvidia x driver , and i should run nvidia-xconfig
[02:56] <andypls1> and when i do that, the output i get is:
[02:56] <andypls1> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[02:56] <andypls1> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[02:56] <SkEmO> Dr_willis:  how do i do that?
[02:56] <andypls1>                   Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver
[02:56] <andypls1>                   line.
[02:56] <andypls1> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[02:56] <andypls1> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:56] <cyberponix> the paste link?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Use that  Hardware Decvice Manager tool and click Install - or somthing like that...
[02:57] <Dr_willis> kdesudo jockey-kde  , select item.. click activate
[02:57] <HighHo> andypls1: you now need to restart the X server
[02:57] <SkEmO> well it only says : component name / enabled / in use
[02:57] <cyberponix> HighHo where do I paste the results?
[02:58] <HighHo> andypls1: logout and press ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:58] <HighHo> !pastebin
[02:58] <SkEmO> ok done Dr_willis
[02:59] <SkEmO> should i restart?
[02:59] <cyberponix> thnx posting shortly
[02:59] <szrhawaii> hey does anyone know of a program that converts avi files to playable dvds
[02:59] <szrhawaii> !DVD
[02:59] <andypls1> i have already done that...
[03:00] <alipio> szrhawaii: mandvd
[03:00] <cyberponix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/105774/
[03:00] <szrhawaii> alipio does that come with a gui interface or is that through terminal
[03:00] <alipio> gui
[03:00] <HighHo> andypls1: check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:01] <HighHo> for some reason it must not be loading the driver
[03:01] <szrhawaii> its not in my repo do you know the source for it or where to go for the repo
[03:01] <andypls1> HighHo: http://pastebin.com/m30439a5b
[03:01] <alipio> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ManDVD?content=83906
[03:01] <Dr_willis> SkEmO,  sure why not.. :)
[03:01] <szrhawaii> k
[03:01] <m_tadeu> andypls1: lets try another thing....run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:01] <m_tadeu> andypls1: but 1st
[03:01] <SkEmO> uhm
[03:02] <m_tadeu> andypls1: make a backup of /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[03:02] <HighHo> andypls1: that all looks fine
[03:02] <SkEmO> lets see
[03:02] <cyberponix> HighHo http://paste.ubuntu.com/105774/
[03:03] <andypls1> i just don't understand how i am getting a high resolution now
[03:03] <andypls1> and i am not using the nvidia x driver!
[03:04] <HighHo> andypls1:  can you paste the output from this file to pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:04] <andypls1> ok
[03:04] <r2b2> hello, how can i make my tv tuner to work
[03:04] <r2b2> a friend of mine gave me pixelview tv tuner and i plug it in the pci slot
[03:04] <r2b2> this is my first time to such thing
[03:05] <Dr_willis> I would google to see if that thing even has any linux support
[03:05] <Dr_willis> if it does - then there are tv tuner programs to try with it.
[03:05] <SkEmO> Dr_willis:  i better not, i opened the network settings on my system settings and  under network interfaces it only appears the la, but not the wireless
[03:05] <Dr_willis> xawtv perhaps is one/
[03:05] <SkEmO> LAN*
[03:05] <Dr_willis> SkEmO,  you mean 'lo' ?
[03:05] <SkEmO> lan, sorry
[03:05] <HighHo> cyberponix: try running in konsole "sudo lshw -C network"
[03:05] <r2b2> Dr_willis : ok - if it is supported, no drivers required?
[03:06] <andypls1> http://pastebin.com/m31da3695
[03:06] <andypls1> it's huge...
[03:06] <SkEmO> it says interface Eth0
[03:06] <Dr_willis> r2b2,  should work..  but some tuners can be tricky. :)   if you are lucky
[03:06] <cyberponix> ok
[03:06] <r2b2> Dr_willis , i will try xawtv -it would be amazing if the tuner works out of the box !
[03:06] <r2b2> :)
[03:07] <Dr_willis> r2b2,  mine basicially did.. but i reserached it first
[03:07] <Dr_willis> I used MythTV for a long time
[03:07] <r2b2> so what is your tv tuner brand?
[03:07] <Dr_willis> haupage pvr150
[03:08] <HighHo> andypls1: that seems to suggest that the X is not yet using the new config
[03:08] <HighHo> it hasent even tryed to call the nvidia driver in the log
[03:08] <andypls1> gimme a sec
[03:09] <cyberponix> HighHo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/105775/
[03:10] <andypls1> HighHo: i changed "nvidia" to "nv" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:10] <andypls1> and i am rebooting now
[03:11] <Dr_willis> "Super Linux Powers Activate!"
[03:11] <Dr_willis> :P
[03:11] <tweakedeh> Is their any other spot I can view the history of the commands used on my comptuer other then /home/user/.bash_history
[03:11] <r2b2> Dr_willis, here is the output of lspci : http://pastie.org/363078
[03:11] <Dr_willis> tweakedeh,  not really
[03:12] <tweakedeh> Any way I can view what was recently downloaded?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> r2b2,  so its a   Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PC
[03:12] <r2b2> what are the other things to try?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> tweakedeh,  downloadd by what?
[03:12] <tweakedeh> apt-get
[03:12] <Dr_willis> r2b2,  i just use mythtv..but it may be over kill.
[03:13] <Dr_willis> apt sabves its packages in /var/cache/apt
[03:13] <r2b2> installing mythv now
[03:13] <cyberponix> HighHo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/105775/
[03:13] <Dr_willis> :/var/cache/apt/archives
[03:13] <Dr_willis> r2b2,  MythTV is proberly VASTLY over kill for just watching tv.
[03:14] <tweakedeh> Dr_willis: Thanks.
[03:14] <HighHo> cyberponix: try running "sudo modprobe forcedeth"
[03:15] <Dr_willis> r2b2,  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/tv-card-based-on-conexant-cx23880-woes-424552/
[03:16] <HighHo> cyberponix: then try running "ifconfig" again
[03:16] <r2b2> Dr_willis : im looking at it right now
[03:16] <cyberponix> FATAL: Model forcedeth not found
[03:17] <HighHo> cyberponix: what version of kubuntu are you running (this is normally included in the kernel)
[03:18] <cyberponix>  7.10
[03:18] <andypls1>   in System->Hardware Drivers Manager, the Nvidia Card is not Enabled. When  i enable it and restart, the x server can not start
[03:18] <m_tadeu> if I want to snif skype communications what would I use?
[03:18] <cyberponix> however nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-486_1.0.8776+6etch2_i386 is my kernel
[03:19] <HighHo> thats just for graphics
[03:19] <tweakedeh> Possable to kick a SSH user off ubuntu?
[03:19] <cyberponix> ok... but I do need it correct?
[03:20] <HighHo> cyberponix: if you run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade, are there any kernel upgrades for you?
[03:20] <HighHo> cyberponix: if you use nvidia graphics you will want to keep it
[03:20] <cyberponix> I have no net conection at all I am using to computers this one has net
[03:21] <cyberponix> the one I want to fix has no net I am using a thumb drive to transfer everthing
[03:21] <m_tadeu> andypls1: do you need to use 7.10?
[03:21] <andypls1> no
[03:21] <The_Z> tweakedeh: why not kill the TTY they're on? It will respawn..
[03:21] <m_tadeu> I think you could give 8.10 a try ;)
[03:22] <cyberponix> Everything almost in the other computer is nvida
[03:22] <andypls1> ok
[03:22] <andypls1> i'll reboot again now!
[03:23] <tweakedeh> The_Z: I'm new to Linux and not sure what TTY is.
[03:23] <m_tadeu> ok....see ya soon
[03:23] <m_tadeu> how can I spy tcp/ip communications?
[03:24] <The_Z> tweak.. each user that logs on has a tty, or terminal... you can do a "who" to see who is online, and by what  means they are logged in...
[03:24] <HighHo> cyberponix: did the issue occur after a fresh install
[03:24] <The_Z> tweak: you can also use "finger", etc... check the man pages for those, btu it is easier to just try in a shell/terminal yourself.
[03:24] <tweakedeh> The_Z:...he made a new user.. nice
[03:25] <cyberponix> yes with vista it worked fine...
[03:25] <tweak> i don't want to use finger
[03:25] <tweak> lol
[03:25] <The_Z> tweak: you also have userdel, or deluser if someone has made a user.. but why did they have permissions to do so?
[03:26] <The_Z> tweak: I have he feeling you aren't telling everything... :)
[03:26] <tweakedeh> I Have a hidden user on my computer, How do I see what it's doing?!
[03:27] <HighHo> cyberponix: Im not sure why the forcedeth driver is not included in 7.10, but i belive that this is probably the issue. If you can it would be best to upgrade to intrepid or hardy
[03:27] <The_Z> tweak: on linux, there isn't any such thing as a "hidden user"..
[03:27] <The_Z> tweak: you can see all of them.
[03:27] <The_Z> tweak: when you do a "who -u" do you see the user?
[03:27]  * SkEmO sighs
[03:28] <cyberponix> If I can find forcedeth and get it to the other comp what will it do?>
[03:28] <SkEmO> Dr_willis:  nope, the wireless still doesent work
[03:28] <SkEmO> :(
[03:29] <The_Z> tweak: you can also look at files where someone logging in is noticed, like "tail -f /var/log/auth.log"
[03:29] <HighHo> cyberponix: Its the driver that most nvidia network cards use, the module needs to be loaded before the card will work
[03:30] <The_Z> tweak: but why not just delete the accounts, reduce their priveleges, or, or, ... How on earth are you just starting on/in linux and have unwanted guests on your server? How did they get in in the first place??
[03:32] <andypls1> so how do i update to 8.11 with adept manager?
[03:33] <Administrator_> I just upgraded using the auto upgrade... and now I have no KDE, no Gnome... NOTHING
[03:33] <SkEmO> damn
[03:34] <muylaert> fala ai galera
[03:34] <muylaert> algum brasileiro na area
[03:35] <dammitalltojeck> Help please??????
[03:36] <HighHo> dammitalltojeck: I assume you have consol access?
[03:37] <tweak> with what?
[03:37] <dammitalltojeck> I just upgraded using the auto upgrade... and now I have no KDE, no Gnome... NOTHING\
[03:37] <n3m0> lol
[03:38] <andypls1> dammitalltojeck: are you on irc from you console ;) ?
[03:38] <n3m0> dammitalltojeck: well if you have internet the type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:38] <dammitalltojeck> andypls1, no... Windows
[03:38] <andypls1> ah...
[03:38] <andypls1> ok sorry
[03:39] <n3m0> dammitalltojeck: what did you upgrade to interpid?
[03:39] <r2b2> ok- i've tried tvtime, mythtv, xawtv and its not working
[03:40] <r2b2> are there any workaround installing this  : http://pastie.org/363078
[03:40] <dammitalltojeck> And I tried the whole apt get... failed. Somehow my bro just got it up but of course hes an asshole and wont tell me how
[03:40] <dammitalltojeck> So sorry for wasting your time.
[03:41] <n3m0> well if you in a console on that box try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:41] <n3m0> that is if you have gnome installed
[03:42] <n3m0> i cant tell how to help you
[03:43] <r2b2> here is output of my lsmod : http://pastie.org/363084
[03:45] <jason_> anyone feel that 8.10 is worth it?
[03:46] <dammitalltojeck> No cause when I did it fucked up my entire install
[03:47] <jason_> im running 8.4 right now myself pretty happy with it
[03:47] <tweak> ok i'm running google earth but the graphics are all garbled on the actual earth. the menu's look fine though. i know this pc can run it.... it's works great under XP.. but i'm trying to get rid of xp! help please? ubuntu 8.10
[03:47] <dammitalltojeck> Wish I would have left it alone and stayed w 8.04
[03:47] <jason_> cant you revert back?
[03:48] <dammitalltojeck> I suppose, but its taken hours to go to 8.10, and Im freaking pissed because of it.  I thought Linux was "better" than windows.
[03:49] <jason_> i did duel booting for a while
[03:49] <dammitalltojeck> Thats whats on my lappy.
[03:50] <genii> !language
[03:50] <dammitalltojeck> The reason why I CANT switch to linux is how complicated it is.
[03:51] <dammitalltojeck> Well at least SOMETHING is family friendly. Cause linux sure isn't.
[03:51] <jason_> ill second that
[03:51] <dammitalltojeck> I cant even get my VPN client INSTALLED on Linux
[03:52] <genii> dammitalltojeck: Linux is a harsh mistress
[03:52] <jason_> very much so
[03:52] <cyberponix> is there anyother driver other than forcedeth to get an nvidia ethernet card working
[03:52] <dammitalltojeck> genii, yeah at least Windows is easy
[03:53] <SkEmO> !lan
[03:53] <SkEmO> !wireless
[03:53] <SkEmO> !knetworkmanager
[03:53] <dammitalltojeck> And now my wireless card wont work with linux... AAAAAARRRRRRGHH!
[03:53] <cyberponix> SkEmo thnx but done all that already
[03:54] <SkEmO> oh
[03:54] <SkEmO> that was for me
[03:54] <SkEmO> i ca make knetworkmanager  detects my wireless card
[03:54] <SkEmO> cant*
[03:55] <cyberponix> have u tried madwifi?
[03:55] <genii> SkEmO: Does ifconfig see it?
[03:55] <tweak> ok i'm running google earth but the graphics are all garbled on the actual earth. the menu's look fine though. i know this pc can run it.... it's works great under XP.. but i'm trying to get rid of xp! help please?
[03:56] <tomas__> español
[03:56] <genii> !es | tomas__
[03:57] <neoTheCat> good evening EST.  i installed kde4 rc2, and it is really amazing, looks beautiful.  i am running it on a pretty good machine.  the only problem is when i run "Urban Terror", it runs considerably slower than when i run it under other  desktops.
[03:58] <neoTheCat> is there anything i can do increase it's performance under kde4 rc2?
[03:59] <SkEmO> genii:  well, it says this :
[03:59] <tweak> another question.... how can I make it so my mounted partitions of hard drive do not appear on the desktop?
[03:59] <genii> SkEmO: If more than a couple lines, use pastebin please
[04:00] <SkEmO> http://pastebin.com/m430c5579
[04:05] <genii> SkEmO: reading
[04:06] <marcovsk> hi
[04:06] <SkEmO> ;)
[04:06] <genii> SkEmO: Can you pastebin output of lspci and lsusb please
[04:07] <SkEmO> ok, sec
[04:07] <SkEmO> http://pastebin.com/m140c2400 thats Lspci
[04:07] <cyberponix> is there anyother driver other than forcedeth to get an nvidia ethernet card working
[04:07] <marcovsk> 0i, gente. alguem fala português?
[04:08] <genii> !pt | marcovsk
[04:08] <SkEmO> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:08] <SkEmO> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:08] <SkEmO> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:08] <SkEmO> lsusb
[04:08] <marcovsk> hi, genii
[04:08] <genii> marcovsk: eg: /join #ubuntu-pt
[04:08] <genii> SkEmO: Please. Don't paste here but use the pastebin service
[04:08] <marcovsk> i didnt understand, genii
[04:09] <SkEmO> oh, sorry
[04:09] <SkEmO> well my wifi card is PCI
[04:09] <SkEmO> not USb
[04:09] <SkEmO> http://pastebin.com/m140c2400 <-------thats Lspci
[04:10] <genii> marcovsk: Para receber o auxílio no português faça por favor /join #ubuntu-pt
[04:10] <marcovsk> join#ubuntu-pt
[04:11] <genii> SkEmO: The result above seems to be all vendor:device codes 0000:0000 which is weird
[04:11] <SkEmO> genii:  on usb?
[04:11] <genii> marcovsk:   /join #ubuntu-pt
[04:11] <marcovsk> #ubuntu-pt
[04:12] <SkEmO> xD
[04:12] <genii> SkEmO: Reading your lspci paste, 1 minute
[04:13] <genii> SkEmO: does command:  lsmod|grep r8169             produce a result?
[04:15] <SkEmO> lemme see
[04:16] <SkEmO> r8169                  36612  0
[04:16] <SkEmO> it produces that genii
[04:17] <cyberponix> can an rpm ever be used with deb?
[04:18] <genii> SkEmO: OK. So add into the file /etc/network/interfaces    2 lines:     auto wlan0             and: iface wlan0 inet dhcp                by: alt-f2     then    kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[04:19] <Name141> Is it possible to still download the 8.04 , the LTS versions ?
[04:19] <Name141> Or request a shipit
[04:19] <genii> SkEmO: Then:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:19] <genii> Name141: Certainly
[04:19] <Name141> genii: where would I find that
[04:19] <tweak> anyone know how to update or tweak video drivers?
[04:19] <Name141> I have issues with the newer one
[04:20] <genii> Name141: look in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[04:21] <Name141> All I am seeing is the DVD ISO
[04:21] <SkEmO> genii:  done
[04:21] <SkEmO> what now?
[04:22] <Name141> What's the difference in the (now scratched) CD and the DVD versions?
[04:22] <genii> SkEmO: Does ifconfig report that interface now?
[04:22] <SkEmO> nope
[04:22] <SkEmO> it only shows eth0 and lo
[04:23] <tweak> anyone know how to update or tweak video drivers?
[04:23] <genii> SkEmO: You did the: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up                   ?
[04:24] <genii> SkEmO: If it did not bring up the interface, what error reported?
[04:24] <SkEmO> genii:  it says this : wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:25] <genii> SkEmO: OK , thats informative at least
[04:25] <genii> My battery will die soon
[04:25] <SkEmO> :(
[04:25] <genii> ~20 mins likely. The charge indicator isn't very accurate
[04:26] <genii> AFK
[04:26] <SkEmO> ok, thanks anyway genii
[04:30] <dpeach> Is OpenOffice.org 3.0 part of the official Hardy packages yet?
[04:30] <dpeach> Or, where do I go to look and see if OOo 3.0 is part of the official Hardy packages?
[04:33] <darkdelusions> Anyone know if there is a pandora plasmid?
[04:40] <bazhang> dpeach, no its not
[04:41] <dpeach> thank you bazhang. I have it installed, but it is being quirky. I will pop it out and get back to the 2.4.
[04:41] <bazhang> dpeach, nor for intrepid
[04:41] <bazhang> dpeach, though there is a ppa available, ymmv
[04:42] <dpeach> really? Wow! I guess I am glad I am holding out for the next obscure animal coming out in April.
[04:42] <bazhang> !jaunty
[04:43]  * dpeach hates the names. What was wrong with numbers that made sense? :-)
[04:45] <tweak> anyone using ubuntu 8.10? you see the icon beside applications at the top? how do I change it?
[04:46] <tweak> anyone good with graphics problems?
[04:46] <bazhang> tweak, ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:47] <tweak> u
[04:47] <bazhang> tweak, why are you cross-posting? the same helpers are in both channels
[04:47] <tweak> o. I didn't know that
[04:47] <tweak> sorry
[04:47] <pkodon> Oh, the channel finally showed up.
[04:47] <bazhang> gnome-look.org for themes tweak
[04:47] <bazhang> argh
[04:48] <pkodon> This isn't a kubuntu question, per se, but it's an ubuntu question, shouldn't matter which UI I'm using.
[04:48] <pkodon> Okay, I have this little 6G drive I want to put some sstuff I downloaded on, so I can put it in my Win98SE machine and have the stuff available to Windows on that machine. I created a FAT32 partition using the entire disk space. I created a /media/PC1 directory as a mountpoint for it, but when I go into a root shell and try to mount it, using "mount -t fat32 /dev/sdc1 /media/PC1", I'm told there's no such file system as "fat32".
[04:49] <darkguy> try vfat, fat or msdos
[04:49] <alberto_> general shortcuts arent working in kde 4.1. where do i modify them?
[04:50] <pkodon> darkguy: Will that recognize the fat32 partition?
[04:50] <darkguy> pkodon: yeah, as far as I know, for fat32 partitions you should use vfat
[04:50] <darkguy> as there's no thing as fat32 if I recall correctly
[04:50] <pkodon> Okay, I'll try it, BRB.
[04:50] <darkguy> in linux anyways
[04:50] <darkguy> good luck
[04:51] <pkodon> Well, there's a kernel module called mkfsfat32 or something like that.
[04:51] <SkEmO> what can i use to compile?
[04:51] <darkguy> that must be new :P
[04:51] <SkEmO> !compile
[05:00] <mike1980> well no one could help in Ubuntu so I will try here. I can not burn to dvd media faster the 4x the disk is up to 16 times and drive is 32 times. I have tryed cdrecord and growisofs with many brands of disk media with no luck
[05:02] <dpeach> mike1980: I have always used K3B with great success. Can you install that and give it a try?
[05:03] <mike1980> dpeach: nope I have no desktop(kde etc)
[05:03] <dpeach> oh, well then you are way out of my skill set.
[05:03] <pkodon> darkguy: Okahy, I got it to mount, but now it is read-only unless you're root.
[05:04] <mister-tea-lapto> !ot
[05:04] <mike1980> ya some people have reported the same problem but no one knows
[05:05] <mike1980> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/31709 I don't want to swtich distro's if I can help it
[05:05] <PSiL0> !fuse
[05:07] <darkguy> pkodon: oh sorry, was afk
[05:08] <darkguy> pkodon: Hmm I don't really know how to solve that, when I used to use NTFS partitions I added -o ro,umask=000, but I assume you can change that for rw
[05:08] <darkguy> still, I don't know if that would work on fat32 or not
[05:09] <hubar> How do you move widgets that are on your bottom panel?
[05:09] <hubar> For KDE 4.1
[05:09] <hubar> I just installed it from ubuntu repository.
[05:10] <pkodon> darkguy: Well, I have an xubuntu offshoot called PC/OS, and there's a tool in the system menu to mount NTFS drives, but nothing for other file systems.
[05:10] <p4c0> hello
[05:11] <darkguy> pkodon: :( I'm afraid I don't have experience in that topic, but, did you try the -o line that I suggested ?
[05:11] <p4c0> I have a small problem, I installed ubuntu server from cdrom, but I want graphic interface, problem is my net is to slow... i have the non server version of ubuntu, but can't manage to use that cd to install it
[05:11] <pkodon> Is there an "unmount" command?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> p4c0,  the alterneticve installer cd. you could...
[05:12] <Dr_willis> pkodon,  theres no N in 'umount' :) for Unmounting stuff
[05:12] <p4c0> I have commented all the line in my source.list, I ran apt-cdrom add, but it keep saying package not found
[05:12] <Dr_willis> p4c0,  alternative cd - i belive cdn be used.. the live-desktop cd cant be used in such a way
[05:12] <p4c0> Dr_willis: i have found others with the same problem, but no good replies on google
[05:12] <darkguy> pkodon: umount
[05:12] <p4c0> Dr_willis: hmmm maybe that's why
[05:13] <p4c0> Dr_willis: where can I get the alterneticve installer cd?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> ALternative cd is same download sites as the normal cd's
[05:13] <p4c0> Dr_willis: i only have the ubuntu server and the intrepid
[05:14] <Dr_willis> There are at least '3' cd's that i know of.. the Live/desktop, the Alternative, and the Server.
[05:15] <hubar> Anyone knows?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> You would proberly be better off just using  the apt-get stuff to download what you need.
[05:15] <hubar> How do you move widgets that are on your bottom panel? for KDE4.1
[05:15] <DasEI> p4c0: right side od d/l page, at torrents and so on
[05:15] <Dr_willis> hubar,  use the cashew to unlock the panel.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> thenadjust the gizmos then lock it back
[05:15] <hubar> Dr_willis: cashew? What is that?
[05:15] <pkodon> Dr_willis: Thanks, I'm going to look at these mount options and see if there's some way to make it R/W when I use mount.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Littel Cashew shaped icon at the side of the panel
[05:16] <Dr_willis> ;)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/I+HATE+the+Cashew?content=91009
[05:28] <SkEmO> sayounaraaaaaaaaa!!
[05:29] <_liquid> hello
[05:32] <hubar> How do you configure kde4 to use konqeror as default web browser?
[05:33] <hubar> Right now, it is using my GNOME setting, use epiphany as default browser.
[05:35] <PeoplesAdvocate> Hey im trying to set up a printer in kubuntu using kde 4.1
[05:36] <snarkster> does anyone know anything about atheros chipsets?
[05:37] <PeoplesAdvocate> little, why?
[05:38] <PeoplesAdvocate> snarkster: what you trying to do?
[05:47] <snarkster> PeoplesAdvocate: I bought this new laptop with atheros wifi and I cant seem to get it working
[05:47] <snarkster> this usb thing i have isnt cutting it.
[05:51] <PeoplesAdvocate> have you tried installing the madwifi drivers?
[05:57] <snarkster> restricted stuff is installed
[05:57] <snarkster> it finds the device just wont use it
[06:05] <hubar> snarkster: I use ndiswrapper.
[06:05] <hubar> There are some serious breakages with my driver and wifi device. I had to use ndiswrapper.
[06:21] <NGL-Jabrroa> hello
[06:25] <i4dm99> hello
[06:26] <NGL-Jabrroa> hi i4dm99 how are you?
[06:37] <prashanth> hello
[06:37] <lovre> hi all
[06:38] <lovre> i cant watch a dvd movie with kaffeine, it  shows this error: This DVD Video is encrypted.  To be able to watch it you will need to install libdvdcss............. I do what it says, but then it just shows the same error again. i cant get it to work. any ideas?
[06:39] <solid_liq> lovre: make sure in preferences that it has scanned for libdvdcss and found it
[06:42] <lovre>  solid_liq:not sure how to check that.
[06:43] <lovre> solid_liq: there is an option dvd.css_decryption_method, and its set to "key". is that ok?
[06:45] <lovre> grr
[06:45] <lovre> now  i insert DVD, and it doesnt respond, its not recognised in "Devices", and i cant get it out!!!!!
[06:46] <lovre> :S
[06:59] <Firefishe> I'm using 8.10 & kde 4.2 b2. Having a problem with my dvd drive.  I put a dvd in, try to open it with dolphin, and now I don't have any access whatsoever to the dvd drive from any application.
[06:59] <Firefishe> Can't eject it, can't mount it, can't unmount it
[07:01] <Dr_willis> check dmesg commnand.. see if it gives a clue
[07:01] <Dr_willis> otherwise.. it may be safest to reboot and eject it
[07:02] <Firefishe> Dr_willis:  Been there, rebooted already.
[07:02] <Firefishe> may have to reboot again ;) *sigh*
[07:03] <Dr_willis> reboot hit the eject button as it powers up
[07:03] <Dr_willis> could be the drive is stuck
[07:03] <Dr_willis> reboot hit the eject button with your shoe as it powers up
[07:03] <Firefishe> stuck in what way, though?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Mechanically stuck
[07:03] <Firefishe> brand new dvd
[07:03] <Dr_willis> chewing gume in the bay.
[07:03] <Firefishe> hardly
[07:03] <Dr_willis> brand new disk or drive?
[07:03] <Firefishe> practically both
[07:03] <Firefishe> nothing in the drive bay, it's a laptop.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> I have had optical drives with mecahinal issues where they get stuck
[07:04] <Firefishe> clean as a whistle
[07:04] <Dr_willis> laptop - one of those spring loaded ones then eh.
[07:04] <Firefishe> yes, but the eject button won't even work.  Soft-eject won't work
[07:04] <Dr_willis> there is that little paperclip hole also.
[07:04] <Firefishe> no paper clips in sight
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Time to order one off the internet.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> ;)
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Hair pin.
[07:05] <Firefishe> I know I'm not being very proactive here.  Every time I think of this, I never remember it.  Paper clip boxes are cheap, too.  Time to hit Staples tomorrow, I'm tired of this.
[07:05] <faileas> lol
[07:05] <Firefishe> Is there any way to force-soft-eject a drive that's become inactive?
[07:05]  * faileas has gem clips for that
[07:06] <Firefishe> Would an encrypted dvd of newer origin have some type of 'anti linux'
[07:06] <Firefishe> type of system?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> I doubt it
[07:07] <Dr_willis> next time ya pop it in.. use DD to make an image of the dvd disk to the HD.. then play the image..
[07:07] <Firefishe> Well, I was using k3b
[07:07] <Dr_willis> k3b to do what?
[07:07] <Firefishe> I'll have to 'man dd' as I've never used it.
[07:07] <Firefishe> or DD
[07:07] <Firefishe> which is it/
[07:07] <Dr_willis> 'dd'
[07:07] <Firefishe> ?
[07:07] <Firefishe> k'
[07:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:07] <Firefishe> :)
[07:07] <Firefishe> kk
[07:07] <Dr_willis> !info dvdrip
[07:09] <Firefishe> downloading now
[07:09] <Firefishe> dvdrip
[07:09] <Firefishe> is there a gui front end?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> dvdrip converts the dvd video to a .avi file :) which is fun
[07:09] <Dr_willis> it is a front end.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> perl front end for transcode.
[07:10] <Firefishe> how long does that take?  I really just want to make a dvd .iso and then re-burn it to another dvd
[07:10] <Firefishe> I'll raw-copy it if necessary.
[07:10] <Dr_willis> like so many things under linux 'it depends'
[07:10] <Dr_willis> raw copy may or may not work.. depending on the disk
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !info k9copy
[07:11] <Firefishe> k
[07:14] <Firefishe> blast it, I'm going to have to reboot just to get the dvd out of there.  brb
[07:32] <Firefishe> Dr_willis:  hi gain, dr. :)  Well, to get around this--and I'm only guessing this is why it's working here--I set my bios to compatible mode (I've had problems with the dvd drive before due to this), rebooted, and in k3b, set it to ignore read errors.  It's nicely copying to an .iso file as I type this.  Hopefully, with no problems.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> compatible mode
[07:32] <Dr_willis>  Whats that?
[07:33] <Firefishe> Enhanced vs Compatible
[07:33] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive ever heard of those modes befor for optical  media/devices.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> only for Parrellel Ports.. AGES ago. :)
[07:34] <Firefishe> This has to do with some of the newer hard drives.  And perhaps that's true for the dvd drive directly, but the dvd still has to be copied to and read by the hd.  Anyway, it's working.
[07:34] <Firefishe> enhanced sata or pata or something like that.
[07:34] <Firefishe> I don't really know specifically
[07:35] <Firefishe> The weird part is, I tried to copy it once, and I had to cancel it.  I then--from within the k3b file browser dialog--selected the drive, and it actually read it.  Then I tried the copy command again, and now it's working.  I'm wondering what's telling what that something is mounted or there or what.
[07:36] <Firefishe> Or what would cause the drive to just up and not work...it's not jammed.
[07:37] <Firefishe> Quite frankly, I"m not overly impressed with the dvd burner in this thing.  I'd like to swap it out for another, but laptops are so specific as to hardware.  It's also lightscribe, but that's not a major thing, I'd rather have something accurate and fast.
[07:37] <Firefishe> works fine on the vista64 side, but that's another story
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Plus you dont watn to see the Cost....
[07:38] <Firefishe> they're not overly heavy, unless you go to the blu-ray burner
[07:38] <Dr_willis> ive had dvd videos that refused to play properly on windows.. but they did under linux
[07:38] <Firefishe> 600 plus for htat beast
[07:38] <Firefishe> Dr_willis:  Isn't that weird?  Go fig.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> It crashed 3 different windows laptops using Windows Media player at exact same spot...
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Linux played it whtouht a hitch
[07:39] <Dr_willis> this was a legal  Starwars  DVD. :)
[07:39] <Firefishe> Sure is reading the thing slow
[07:39] <Firefishe> Well, all I have on vista is windows media player.  Didn't even come with a nice, tight dvd viewer package.  It's a gaming system, anyway.
[07:40] <Dr_willis> I use gmplayer and vlc on windows also.
[07:40] <Firefishe> 9700m gt nvidia..which makes eve online look very nice :)
[07:40] <Dr_willis> Or i set up GeeXbox and use it to make a fast-booting-video player system
[07:40] <Firefishe> what is geexbox?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> a MediaPlayer MiniDisrto
[07:41] <Firefishe> Is there a usb-drive version?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> it recantly came out with a feature sort of like Wubi/ubuntu where you can isntall it as an 'application' under windows.. or you can use it on a bootable thimbdrive
[07:41] <Dr_willis> or on a cd
[07:41] <Dr_willis> or you can install it to HD and make ubuntub oot it - if you wanted
[07:41] <Firefishe> Well, I wouldn't mind using it on windows, to see how it integrates with the system while win is running.  I still need a better dvd-decoder.
[07:42] <Firefishe> on hd?
[07:42] <Dr_willis> It dosent interfrate with the system while windows is runnng
[07:42] <Firefishe> Does it need a separate partition?
[07:42] <Dr_willis> it is its own little mini disrto
[07:42] <Dr_willis> You can install it  like wubi and have it instaleld without a pariottion
[07:42] <Firefishe> oh,  you mean you can run it from within a windows sub-directory if you want?
[07:42] <Firefishe> I follow now
[07:43] <Firefishe> np
[07:43] <Dr_willis> it boots  to geexbox. or windows. :)
[07:43] <faileas> wubi basically gets grub to load a dosk image
[07:43] <faileas> *disk
[07:43] <faileas> GeeXbox?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> Yep. exactly faileas  - GeeXbox has that feature now
[07:43] <Dr_willis> MediaPlayer Mini Disrto
[07:43] <faileas> i mean what's that ;p
[07:43] <Firefishe> I'm going to look it up.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> mini thumb drive with GeexBox + laptop = media player :)
[07:44] <faileas> lol
[07:44] <faileas> hmm
[07:44] <Firefishe> although I do not see why kubuntu shouldn't be able to do the same thing.  I use the laptop regularly between 8.10/kde and vista.  I need vista for some things, ubuntu for others.
[07:44] <faileas> sounds like something worth messing with ;p
[07:44] <Firefishe> csound, for example ;)
[07:44] <Firefishe> I've installed the entire ubuntu-studio
[07:44] <Firefishe> I'm going to turn this into a laptop soft-synth workstation
[07:44] <elwood> good morning
[07:45] <Firefishe> Gotta find a usb-to-midi adapter that will work with ubuntu
[07:45] <Firefishe> and probably interface with Jack
[07:45] <faileas> lol
[07:45] <Firefishe> thought it's weird.  You can't run everything at once.  Some soft-synths rely on jack, others don't.
[07:45] <Firefishe> thought=though
[07:45] <faileas> nice timing, i hosed my win2k/xp box ;p
[07:46] <Firefishe> I've nixxed  my win installations in favor of linux before
[07:47] <Firefishe> Actually, the g50v has a 2nd hard drive bay.  Asus's online store is out of the brackets, though, and have been since before December.  I'm not overly impressed.
[07:47] <Firefishe> I'd much prefer to have ubuntu on a separate h/d altogether.
[07:47] <Firefishe> I have been able to boot Slax on a usb stick, though.  Kind of limited.
[07:50] <faileas> Firefishe: oh this is an old box, totally used for videos- a disk imaging software caused some wierdness, and i think i blew up the bootloader ;p
[07:51] <Firefishe> well, you could reinstall grub, but if it needs repair--and you wont' lose any of your videos, then I'd just re do it
[07:51] <faileas> ....
[07:52] <faileas> 19 MB?
[07:52] <elwood> is konqueror usable without installing firefox?
[07:52] <faileas> Firefishe: none of the videos are on the box
[07:52] <Firefishe> what I enjoy about ubuntu, is the way the failsafe-boot works.  I'm able to select fsck from an ncurses type menu during failsafe, and that is nice.
[07:52] <faileas> elwood: yes
[07:52] <Firefishe> elwood...yes
[07:52] <Firefishe> konqueror is kde
[07:52] <Firefishe> konqueror is kde's web browser/file manager
[07:52] <faileas> Firefishe: oh, this is the unique kinda messup you need experience and stupidity in equal measure to do ;p
[07:52] <Firefishe> dolphin notwithstanding
[07:52] <Firefishe> faileas:  LOL  Been there.
[07:53] <Firefishe> I think I had six re-installs in one day one time.  I forget the distro/hardware.
[07:53] <elwood> well, it seems to be faster and lighter than ffox, hope it works with all sites :)
[07:53] <faileas> Firefishe: ironically, it started with me trying to image the system with ping ;p
[07:54] <Firefishe> elwood...konqueror is it's own animal.  Flash and Java behave differently with it, so I'd start looking over the forums and all the instructions and options for koqueror if you want it to be your primary browser.  I prefer firefox.
[07:55] <elwood> Firefishe: thanks, i'll give it a try
[07:56] <Firefishe> np elwood
[07:56] <Firefishe> faileas:  You can image a system with ping??
[07:56] <Firefishe> I thought ping was a network specific thing.
[07:56] <faileas> Firefishe: Partimage is not ghost
[07:56] <faileas> good documentation, but i don't seem to have luck with disk imaging software XD
[07:56] <Firefishe> oh...Ping vs ping ??
[07:57] <Firefishe> faileas:  And I don't have any experience with it, either.
[07:57] <Firefishe> ghosting drives, I mean
[07:57] <faileas> lol
[07:57] <Firefishe> Well, the dvd is copied as an .iso.  Now let's see if xine will play it
[07:58] <faileas> Firefishe: ya ;p. been trying a few.... still haven't gotten one that works for me ;p
[07:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to play .iso files in vlc or mplayer
[07:59] <Firefishe> Dr_willis:  I have vlc.  Still, I find that, overall, xine-ui (slaved to xine, when the xine-ui package is installed), overall.
[08:00] <Firefishe> I'll try vlc, however, that's a tight package.
[08:00] <Dr_willis> im used to the keybindings and featrues in vlc and gmplayer :)
[08:00] <Dr_willis> i even use them under windows.. and Geexbox uses mplayer.. so i am used to it the most
[08:50] <dominik_g> Hi, I am looking for a way to use the sesame2 backend for libsoprano4 (I am using KDE 4.2 RC1 right now). Does there exist something prepackaged or do I have to compile it myself (which looks to be a tough task)?
[08:51] <Dr_willis> !repo
[08:58] <dominik_g> Nobody has some ideas on how to get the sesame2 backend in kubuntu?
[08:58] <Dr_willis> No idea what that even is dominik_g
[08:58] <Dr_willis> !find sesame
[09:01] <dominik_g> python-sesame is not the sesame2 backend for libsoprano4 as far as I know
[09:01] <dominik_g> sesame2 is a backend for the nepomuk desktop search
[09:02] <dominik_g> kubuntu only includes the redland backend, which is free but veeeery slow
[09:03] <dominik_g> sesame2 is built on java, anecdotically contains some non-free parts, but is a lot faster than redland.
[09:06] <dominik_g> ok, nobody seems to be able to help. anyway, thanks
[09:06]  * Dr_willis still has no idea what  nepomuk   redland   or sesame2  is :)
[09:06] <Dr_willis> some 'search' thing... :)
[09:10] <bobleny> Where can I find the md5 checksum for kubuntu 8.04?
[09:11] <bobleny> Is anybody even here?
[09:11] <Dr_willis> Sould be a file on the download site/links to it.
[09:12] <bobleny> Well, I downloaded it from kubuntu.org, and I couldn't find a link or anything.
[09:13] <Dr_willis> http://less.cogeco.net/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.10/MD5SUMS
[09:13] <Dr_willis> i just followed the link to the mirrors and looked :)
[09:14] <Dr_willis> i was thinking the md5sum file was on the cd.. but ive NO idea how it managed to get there.. heh
[09:16] <bobleny> Ok, I got it. Thank you!
[09:19] <Dr_willis> Im still nto sure how a disrto cd can boot up and check its own md5sum.. syure it can get its own sum.. but how did they save the md5sum file on the cd.. without changeing the md5sum
[09:21] <bluecode> Does anybody know of a kdevelop4 alpha6 package or is anybody willing to package it (I have no idea how much work this is)?
[09:31] <yao_ziyuan> if there a way to let gtk+ programs use fonts specified in GNOME Menu -> System -> Preferences -> Appearance without running gnome-settings-daemon?
[09:33] <yao_ziyuan> or: where can i set fonts for gtk+ (instead of for gnome) so gtk+ programs run in KDE will directly use them?
[09:35] <Goan> Hi, My Kubuntu Hardy is getting unstable. It keeps on freezing on random times and flashes the caps lock key once frozen. I was reading about this and it is named "Kernel Panic". Do you know what should I look for to correct this problem?
[09:38] <Dr_willis>  flashes the caps lock key  and kernel panic is the sign of a VERY VERY nasty crash
[09:38] <Dr_willis> hard to tell since you cant really see the logs/stuff after it crashes...
[09:38] <Dr_willis> has it always been unstable? or a recent thing?
[09:39] <Goan> Started two days back. As far as I remember, I plugged in my Apple Ipod touch and kept it plugged for about two hours and after I came back the screen was frozen.
[09:40] <Dr_willis> monitor the dmesg commands output.. and see if anything shows up befor it gets unstable/crashes...
[09:40] <Dr_willis> but is it crashing now without theipod plugged in?
[09:41] <Goan> yes, I never plugged the ipod back in
[09:42] <faileas> Goan: ipod classic 1st generation?
[09:42] <faileas> oh my bad
[09:42]  * faileas really should read scrollnack ;p
[09:42] <Dr_willis> i would find it hard to belive that plugging in an ipod would  damange anything
[09:43] <Goan> Dr_willis, I would think that too.
[09:43] <techbw> hi, is there a way for me to log onto another computer kde desktop via ssh.
[09:44] <Dr_willis> techbw,  depends on what you want to do.. You could ssh -X to the remote box and run apps and they would appear 'locally'
[09:44] <Dr_willis> if you wanted to controll the existing kde desktop ont he remote box. thats another thing entirely. :)
[09:44] <techbw> no I would like kde desktop to load, ssh -X works for individual apps
[09:45] <Dr_willis> You can  make all the apps show up locally.. :) start a X session with just a terminal , ssh -X over.. and run 'startkde'
[09:45] <Dr_willis> but that may make for a sluggish desktop
[09:45] <Dr_willis> also  if you dont have to use ssh. theres the xdmcp feature of X. for a remote desktop thats local.
[09:46] <techbw> tried that, did not work, I have enabled X tunneling in ssh server on remote pc, but remote computer seems to not respond.  when I enter the startkde command
[09:47] <Dr_willis> you dont want anyting going in X otehr then a simple terminal window. no other window managers at all.  when you do that trick
[09:48] <techbw> so I must be in a terminal window not an x when I start this?
[09:48] <Dr_willis>  I was thinking i saw gdm/kdm somehow had a 'remote X session' or 'secure ssh X session' menu  item once.. but im not sure what put them there.
[09:48] <techbw> ctrl+alt+f2 for example
[09:48] <Dr_willis> start X with JUST a xterm. No window manager, or anythying
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Not a CONSOLE
[09:48] <techbw> can a window manager be active on another screen?
[09:49] <Dr_willis> you can have several X sessions going at the same time.. alt-ctrl-f7 and one on alt-ctrl-f8 and  so forth. yes. you an have one on the other 'screen'
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Last i did this was with kde 3.5 ages ago..
[09:49] <Dr_willis> AGES and AGES ago  :)
[09:51] <techbw> when I do go to ctrl+alt+f2 and ssh into the machine and start kde there are alot of failure notices, which go up too fast and can't scroll to see what it is saying
[09:51] <Dr_willis> You DONT startkde from a console
[09:51] <Dr_willis>  you must start it from a X session
[09:51] <techbw> how do I open an X session without starting to load kde locally?
[09:52] <Dr_willis> thats the trick :)
[09:52] <techbw> if I press ctrl+alt+f8 then it opens a local kde session
[09:52] <Dr_willis>  I was thinking i saw gdm/kdm somehow had a 'remote X session' or 'secure ssh X session' menu  item once.. but im not sure what put them there.
[09:53] <techbw> i will go through adept and check the repos, maybe there is something in there
[09:53] <Dr_willis> look at the kdm login/session items..  or dont use kdm and make a simple .xinitrc that has one line.. 'xterm'
[09:53] <Dr_willis> then use startx from the console after you close out X and stop kdm
[09:53] <yao_ziyuan> i just googled and found 3 approaches to set fonts for gtk+ programs running in kde: (1) use gtk-qt-engine to "set a font or use my current kde font for gtk+ programs"; (2) edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0; (3) run gnome-settings-daemon at kde startup.  approach #1 actually is equivalent to #2 because gtk-qt-engine writes to ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4, and if i copy this to ~/.gtkrc-2.0, it still doesn't work; so approaches #1 and #2 don't work. only #3 works for me.
[09:53] <Dr_willis> Or spawn a 2nd X session that runs .xinitrc with the xterm line in it.
[09:54] <techbw> i will try that.
[09:54] <techbw> thankx
[10:27] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[10:38] <ka> Hi
[10:47] <Dr_willis> hi
[10:50] <ka> Hi Dr_willis
[10:50] <lillyz> hey I have a problem on ubuntu 8.10 amd64 on install it gets to after copy files then it updates time from server and just quits and ubiquity seems to be closing unexpectedly just right after that. Can someone give me any ideas on how to fix. (md5sum on cd is fine, burnt twice now low speed, cd check said no errors i have a 64bit cpu)
[10:51] <ka> I have no idea, But then I am new to Ubuntu...
[10:55] <Dr_willis> i tend to use the alterntive isntaller..  so not sure. either
[10:58] <ka> Maybe you 'll have som more luck at teh #ubuntu channel. But It is saturady, and contrary to whjat people belive, Linux users do something else that use their PCs in the weekends...
[10:58] <lillyz> hmm time to try that then... it worked before but i put a new pc together with fairly newish parts but seems it just didn't like me :(
[10:58] <lillyz> lol yeah i already asked in #ubuntu no response at all
[10:59] <Dr_willis> It can be hard to trouble shoot.
[10:59] <Dr_willis> since it works for most everyone else..
[11:00] <Dr_willis> I had a problem machine. kubuntu, and buntu both dident install right.. but a Xubuntu install cd did work
[11:01] <ka> Hey, any of you remember where the trash folder is?
[11:01] <Dr_willis> !trash
[11:02] <Dr_willis> No :P
[11:02] <Dr_willis> but i can rember the factoid
[11:04] <ka> thanks, just what I needed
[11:09] <Guest179> Hi everyone,  what's the keyboard shortcut for switching between tabs in Konqueror (like Ctrl-PgUp and Ctrl PgDn in Firefox)?
[11:12] <ka> ctrl+alt+tab
[11:15] <Guest179> ka: Thanks!  That shifts to the next tab.  What about shifting to the previous tab?
[11:15] <Dr_willis> add a shift?
[11:15] <ka> ctrl+shift+alt+tab?
[11:15] <Dr_willis> if you have enough fingers. :)
[11:15] <Guest179> Nope.  Doesn't work
[11:16] <ka> hm I dont know..
[11:17] <ka> But It cycles around, I konw not optimal. Im sure its there though
[11:20] <Guest179> Any other ideas?
[11:20] <Dr_willis> check the keybinding/konqueror settings?
[11:20] <Guest179> How?
[11:21] <ian_> morning - has anyone had any problems with kwin since the 4.2 RC update?
[11:21] <Dr_willis> Konwueror menu items I imagine some where? Im not in kde aright now.
[11:21] <tictric> "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply"
[11:21] <tictric> I can login into kde4 but don't get the desktop only kdm wallpaper
[11:22] <Guest179> Dr_willis: OK got it.  Settings->Configure Shortcuts.  The shortcuts are Ctrl+./Ctrl+,  Thanks everyone!
[11:22] <ian_> are you sure your selecting kde4 from the login screen?
[11:22] <tictric> ian_: yes
[11:23] <tictric> I cannot log in only as one specific user: Me
[11:23] <ian_> tictric: what version of kde4 are you running? on what system?
[11:23] <tictric> the other users on this machine can just login like before
[11:23] <tictric> 4.1.4
[11:23] <Dr_willis> sounds like some messed up kde setting
[11:24] <tictric> yes
[11:24] <ian_> tictric: can you log into terminal and check that all of your home dir is owned by you and you've not accidently owned some of it by root
[11:24] <ka> tictric: Hm I oftwen experienced this when my home dir was full...
[11:24] <tictric> I even moved my home dir to homedir.bak and created a new empty home to see what happens
[11:24] <tictric> no change
[11:25] <tictric> only this one user doesn't get a desktop env on this upgraded intrepid
[11:25] <ka> rename your kde folder as root
[11:25] <tictric> ian_: I checked all of the abovd
[11:25] <ian_> the only time i've seen problems like that are either with a full home dir or wrong permissions
[11:25] <ka> Kde will regenerat a new folder for you, then you can copy back the things you need
[11:25] <tictric> I did chown -R user.user /home/user
[11:26] <ian_> hhhmmmm
[11:26] <tictric> ka, that's what I thought too. But it made no change
[11:26] <ka> Crap... That seems strange
[11:27] <ka> Hm make a new user and copy your files over
[11:27] <ian_> while we are on the topic of kde, has anyone had problems with kwin constantly crashing in 4.2 RC?
[11:27] <tictric> ka I'll try that I think
[11:36] <Stalker72> When I try to install Kubuntu using the minimal installer, it says "boot:". What do I do?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> after it isntalls it just says boot: ?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> or is that the install cd saying it?
[11:48] <Guest10261> I was a user of the `single-menu-bar' in KDE 3.  CAn anyone tell me how to enable this functionality in KDE 4?
[11:49] <leandroribeiro> Hi you all! Is there any repo that would allow me to install KDE 4.2 on top of Ubuntu 8.04?
[11:51] <Dekans> leandroribeiro: not for Kubuntu 8.04
[11:51] <Dekans> Guest10261: don't know what you're speaking about
[11:52] <Stalker72> Dr_willis: I managed to solve it by hitting enter.
[11:52] <leandroribeiro> Darn... I'm having issues with ATI drivers for 8.10 and wanted to go back, but KDE 4.2 is getting adictive :|
[11:53] <Dr_willis> Stalker72,  amazing eh? :)
[11:53] <jussi01> Guest10261: you mean the "mac style" one across the top?
[11:54] <Guest10261> jussi01: Yep, that very one.
[11:54] <Dr_willis> Its proberly not in kde4 any more.
[11:54] <jussi01> Guest10261: dont think it got ported
[11:54] <Stalker72> Dr_willis: Hehe :P
[11:54] <Guest10261> WHAT! I'm going to GNOME this instant.
[11:54] <ixzel> hello.... can some help me... i'm a new Linux&Kubuntu user here
[11:55] <ixzel> *someone*
[11:55] <Guest10261> ixzeL: Yes?
[11:55] <jussi01> Guest10261: *yet* :D
[11:55] <jussi01> !ask | ixzel
[11:56] <ixzel> what is this? this error is from adept
[11:56] <ixzel> APT Error. Context:
[11:56] <Guest10261> Bye KDE!  Nice being with you...
[11:56] <ixzel>     Running dpkg,
[11:56] <ixzel>     [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --unpack, /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb ],
[11:56] <ixzel>     Sup-process returned error code 1,
[11:56] <ixzel>     Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb : unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic' before installing new version: Operation not permitted.
[11:56] <jussi01> !paste | ixzel
[11:57] <ixzel> sorry
[11:57] <jussi01> ixzel: can you open a konsole and type: sudo apt-get install -a
[11:58] <jussi01> ixzel: if you dont understand what I mean, just ask :)
[11:58] <ixzel> wait.. ill try
[11:58] <jussi01> ixzel: make sure adept is closed before that
[11:58] <ixzel> OK thanks
[11:59] <jussi01> ixzel: oops, im being confused :D use: sudo apt-get install -f
[11:59] <jussi01> *oops*
[11:59]  * jussi01 apologises profusely
[12:00] <ixzel> i see got an error on "-a" heheh
[12:00] <ixzel> done
[12:02] <ixzel> sir jussi01: i run the sudo apt-get install -f, it said there is 1 that isnt upgraded
[12:02] <jussi01> ixzel: and then it fixed it?
[12:03] <ixzel> jussi01: i got a line: zero upgraded, zero installed, zero to remove and 1 not upgraded
[12:04] <jussi01> ixzel: did it tell you which one?
[12:04] <ixzel> no it didn't
[12:04] <jussi01> ok, try this then: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:04] <jussi01> and yes, that one is supposed to be -a :D
[12:05] <ixzel> oK by the way this package generated the error: linux-image-2.6.27.7-generic
[12:07] <jussi01> ixzel: yeah, thats what I thought. did that last command help?
[12:07] <ixzel> i think not... there are no message after i entered the command
[12:08] <alberto> Witch is the best driver for one ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400?
[12:08] <peterz> Guest26222: what's your definition of best?
[12:09] <Guest26222> peterz,  best 3d accelaration
[12:09] <Guest26222> :)
[12:09] <Guest26222> I think there are 3 ati drivers
[12:09] <peterz> Guest26222: then currently the only choice is the binary junk
[12:10] <Guest26222> :S thats what i thought
[12:10] <Guest26222> and i also heard it was junk
[12:10] <Guest26222> :S
[12:10] <Guest26222> om
[12:12] <ixzel> jussi01: anyone there????
[12:12] <Tm_T> ixzel: no messages usually means no errors
[12:13] <jussi01> ixzel: Im unsure now, perhaps try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <ixzel> umm.. oK... ill try
[12:13] <Tm_T> WTFisWTF: please change your nick
[12:13] <WTFisWTF> ok
[12:16] <ixzel> it gave an error... here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/105875/
[12:22] <ixzel> jussio1: how was it?
[12:22] <ixzel> *jussi01*
[12:22] <jussi01> ixzel: err, what?
[12:23] <ixzel> i got an error message, look it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/105875/
[12:24] <jussi01> ixzel: seems there is a bug. Id report it.
[12:24] <jussi01> !bug | ixzel
[12:24] <al_> anybody else experiencing constant plasma crashes with rc1?
[12:24] <bobek_> Can I hawe Kde near Gnome on 1 ubuntu?
[12:24]  * jussi01 goes off to do other things...
[12:25] <ixzel> OK thank you very much~
[12:25] <ixzel> jussi01: thanks ^_^
[12:44] <don> Hello, all
[12:45] <Guest2134> 2 days thare was a kubuntu upgrade. From that time "Show desktop" appication signed as "unknown kde4 application".
[12:46] <Guest2134> So I can't use this applet.
[12:46] <Guest2134> Is it mine trouble or is it a generaly bug?
[12:46] <RurouniJones> Does anyone know if there is a way to boost volume?
[12:47] <RurouniJones> I got Amarok maxed and the kubuntu sound slider maxed
[12:47] <RurouniJones> but the thing I am llistening to is still too quiet
[12:47] <pidusd> after my kubuntu 8.10 stopped responding and the caps light started blinking, I restarted the machine and since then both wired/wireless stopped working on it. Has anybody faced anything similar and knows of some way to recover the network?
[12:49] <pidusd> oops..where did the 1st line go ...i had said after my kubuntu 8.10 stopped responding and the caps light started blinking, I restarted the machine
[12:49] <pidusd> and since then both wired/wireless stopped working on it. Has anybody faced anything similar and knows of some way to recover the network?
[12:50] <pidusd> doesn't blinking caps lock light..indicates a crashed kernel?
[12:52] <ixzel> is there any websites for downloading plasmoids???
[12:55] <Neremor> kde-look.org
[12:55] <Neremor> or kde-apps.org
[12:56] <gabriele> ciao a tutti
[12:56] <gabriele> ho un problema con l'istallazione di java6 chi mi dà una mano?
[13:00] <ghostcube> !it | gabriele
[13:10] <pidusd> does anybody know how should i fix wired and wireless network which stopped working after a crash in kubuntu 8.10
[13:11] <hellsing> pidusd what have you done?
[13:12] <hellsing> try to purge network manager and reinstall it
[13:12] <pidusd> nothing that i know about except that i had loads of application windows opened..when kubuntu stopped responding
[13:13] <pidusd> and caps lock light started blinking
[13:15] <gabriele> ok....grazie
[13:16] <vincenzo_> ci sono italiani??
[13:16] <pidusd> hellsing: i tried looking at the kernel logs, but surprisingly the logs at the time of crash are missing
[13:17] <hellsing> what have you try to do?
[13:17] <hellsing> in order to solve the problem
[13:18] <pidusd> i don't know what triggered the problem
[13:18] <astratto> !it | vincenzo
[13:18] <pidusd> i tried to look at the logs but couldn't spot anything worthwhile
[13:19] <pidusd> i did purge network manager..as u said..but then for reinstalling it i need the cd...which i currently don't have
[13:24] <myrtille> !de
[13:42] <raymears> hi everyone. i have a question regarding kopete 0.60.4 (intrepid, kde4.1.4): why doesn't it download other user's avatars for the yahoo protocol?
[13:45] <maxbaldwin> If you need to use a substitute, pidgin works, raymears
[13:46] <pidusd> is there anyway to repair network manager in kubuntu using live cd
[13:46] <blueop> hello, first time using linux, went with backtrack, then phlak but ended up using ubuntu
[13:46] <blueop> I really like it
[13:46] <pidusd> as my network is not working and trying to install it requires d/l of dependencies
[13:46] <raymears> maxbaldwin: yeah, i know. i'm ok with kopete. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177445 it might have something to do with this bug
[13:48] <raymears> i guess i was just hoping there would be some inside information about the issue.
[13:51] <maxbaldwin> not too much. :\
[13:52] <dustrial> after being afk the screen turns black and computer freezes... amoung all the other problems with kde4 i am very disappointed by now :)
[13:53] <dustrial> plug and play devices that worked on kde3 like a charm dont work on kde4
[13:59] <KomiaPoika> in 8.10 kde4.2 beta i turned off screensaver, yet screensaver starts after 10 min... how do i prevent screensaver from autostart?
[14:11] <kaddi> !de
[14:17] <KomiaPoika> in kde 4.2 beta how can i make terminals, mail and browser software backgrounds permanently translucent, like how they are when i move the windows?
[14:20] <ixzel> hi... is there any command that may reset to defaults all the setting i made in 8.10.... the windows doesn't have title bars
[14:21] <ixzel> anyone?
[14:22] <johnbach> abc
[14:22] <fidji> hi
[14:22] <ixzel> hi... is there any command that may reset to defaults all the setting i made... this window doesn't have title bars
[14:23] <fidji> someone use konqueror with kubuntu 8.10 ?
[14:23] <Tm_T> fidji: many of us do
[14:23] <johnbach> yes
[14:24] <johnbach> i'm using kubuntu
[14:24] <fidji> I can move file in letf column
[14:24] <johnbach> which file ?
[14:25] <fidji> http://img1.imagilive.com/0109/paspossible.jpg
[14:25] <fidji> all the file
[14:25] <fidji> possible with dolphin
[14:25] <johnbach> but what do you mean ?
[14:26] <fidji> possible before 8.10
[14:27] <fidji> can't see mouse pointer in screenshot
[14:27] <fidji> have (sens interdit) no way icon
[14:27] <johnbach> and now , what do you want ?
[14:28] <fidji> whant to copy or move file in left folder of my home
[14:29] <fidji> not possible with konqueror, possible with dolphin
[14:29] <fidji> http://img1.imagilive.com/0109/dolphin734.jpg
[14:29] <johnbach> sorry ,may be i don't know
[14:30] <johnbach> i know
[14:30] <johnbach> i can see it
[14:30] <fidji> the screenshot ?
[14:30] <johnbach> yes
[14:31] <johnbach> where are yuo ?
[14:31] <fidji> from france
[14:31] <johnbach> sorry , i don't know how to  help you
[14:32] <johnbach> i'm a newbie
[14:34] <fidji> ok no problem
[14:34] <ixzel> hi... is there any command that may reset to defaults all the setting i made... this window doesn't have title bars
[14:34] <ixzel> or any way?
[14:35] <ghostcube> fidji, i think there is an french channel too if you prefere it more
[14:35] <ghostcube> !fr | fidji
[14:35] <ghostcube> :)
[14:35] <ghostcube> oh only ubuntu-fr ?
[14:41] <cicciux> so... my computer just automagically shut down.
[14:41] <cicciux> I don't even know where to begin looking...
[14:41] <cicciux> it started to be a bit slow and then puf, began to shutdown.
[14:42] <ghostcube> maybe getting to hot ?
[14:43] <cicciux> ghostcube: possible. It was under a bit of stress (an oracle instance up, and a couple of processes running hot on cpu)
[14:43] <cicciux> still, I'd like to be sure
[14:44] <cicciux> I'm checking /var/log/messages... with no luck.
[14:44] <ghostcube> is there anything inside the syslog
[14:44] <cicciux> checking now...
[14:45] <johnbach> anyone here ?
[14:45] <johnbach> i have problem
[14:45] <johnbach> i want to use kdevelop for projection with c
[14:45] <johnbach> but i can't debug
[14:46] <cicciux> what does this mean? [165371.412055] program nmhs is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO
[14:47] <johnbach> i don't know
[14:47] <johnbach> error :  your PATH
[14:47] <cicciux> Jan 17 12:28:35 omega kernel: [165669.141219] ACPI: Critical trip point
[14:47] <johnbach> but i don't know how to convert this error
[14:47] <cicciux> well, that's thelas message...
[14:48] <johnbach> now , what can i do?
[14:49] <cicciux> heating problem it is... pfff
[14:49] <cicciux> I knew I shoul've invested in a liquid cooling system XD
[14:52] <faileas> cicciux: or a box fan ;p
[14:52] <johnbach> how to up file on the konversation ?
[14:53] <johnbach> i want to send to you image
[14:53] <johnbach> file:///home/johnbach/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[14:54] <faileas> lol
[14:54] <faileas> i think its rightclick on a name, then sendfile
[14:58] <johnbach> file:///home/johnbach/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[15:02] <neoTheCat> good evening EST.  i installed kde4 rc2, and it is really amazing, looks beautiful.  i am running it on a pretty good machine.  the only problem is when i run "Urban Terror", it runs considerably slower than when i run it under other  desktops.
[15:02] <neoTheCat> is there anything i can do increase it's performance under kde4 rc2?
[15:02] <ghostcube> rc2 oO
[15:03] <neoTheCat> uhh..good morning i mean...
[15:35] <ruzaimi> hello
[15:35] <cyberponix> is there anyother driver other than forcedeth to get an nvidia ethernet card working?
[15:38] <marcus_> I'm having problems with my Webcam in Kubuntu 8.10
[15:42] <ruzaimi> how to install this program in my PC "AudioCutter_1.2_x86.tar.gz" whit shell
[15:42] <ruzaimi> pleas
[15:42] <ruzaimi> help!!!
[15:43] <ghostcube> extract the tar gz then compile it normally inside the package there is an howto or an readme or an install file explaining what to do
[15:44] <ruzaimi> how to extract
[15:44] <ruzaimi> i am don't know
[15:44] <ghostcube> just doubleklick the tar gz it should open in ark
[15:44] <ghostcube> then its like zip or rar tools
[15:44] <ghostcube> chose the folder and extract it
[15:45] <Xand3r> hey ho
[15:45] <ruzaimi> oooo
[15:45] <Xand3r> in gams with fullscreen the desktop mous dont disapear
[15:45] <Xand3r> what could be the problem?
[15:46] <Xand3r> what shuld you know to help me?
[15:50] <posingaspopular> ruzaimi: still here?
[15:51] <posingaspopular> open up a shell and the command is "tar -xjvf AudioCutter_1.2_x86.tar.gz"
[15:54] <andypls1> i want to know, when an interrupt occurs, where does the processor find the address of the correct interrupt handler it has to call?
[15:54] <cyberponix> Ok I have searched and searched... I need help to find and get my ethernet working fresh install on a brand new computer
[15:55] <cyberponix> the network card is not a known card within kubuntu
[15:55] <kalp> hello
[15:56] <kalp> unable to see orkut pages on konqueror
[15:56] <kalp> can any1 help
[15:59] <[1]felix> Hello. I'm trying to install Kubuntu 8.10 with unetbotin, but during the installing process (it's Live version of Kubuntu) when I need to select partitions, install script doesnt show any partition(!?!) Any clues on how to overcome this?
[16:00] <cyberponix> is your hdd password protected?
[16:00] <[1]felix> no
[16:01] <[1]felix> I could easily install any linux using CD's till now. But now installing from CD (and/or net) isnt an option on this pc
[16:01] <cyberponix> do you have either ubuntu or kubuntu 7.10?
[16:01] <marcus_> Does anyone have an URL to how to get the webcam working in 8.10? I'm completely new.
[16:02] <[1]felix> I do have kubuntu installed already on other partitions, it's not working since I tried upgrade, so I wanted to use this method of installing new version on those partitioins
[16:02] <[1]felix> I'm using unetbotin from windows
[16:03] <cyberponix> if you have the 7.10 disk run the live cd and see if the partition can be taken care of thru that then run the new one
[16:04] <Xand3r> hey folks why is my intel gfx driver only from 20061102?
[16:04] <Xand3r> thats realy old
[16:04] <[1]felix> no, I cannot use CD, that's why I'm messing with untbotin, I do have downloaded ISO of kubuntu 8.10, but no CD, I cannot use it anyway
[16:05] <cyberponix> burn the iso to disk
[16:05] <[1]felix> no cyber, I cannot use CD at all
[16:06] <[1]felix> I can only try to install from HD somehow
[16:06] <[1]felix> thoght that maybe if I could be presented with an option during the booting with unetbotin to go straight to installation process without starting live session, but I cannot find the way..
[16:09] <dstar> ...AAAARGH.
[16:09] <armandas> has anyone got an idea on how to disable vj compression for PPP connections? knetworkmanager just doesn't save the settings
[16:09] <[1]felix> cyberponix, ok thanks for your time cyber :) I'm gonna try to find some other way or get some cd drive fast. cya :)
[16:10] <dstar> Okay, what the heck keeps overwriting my resolv.conf? I'm using wicd rather than the piece of shit known as network manager, but it doesn't even have a place for it...
[16:10] <jussi01> !ohmy | dstar
[16:11] <kalorin_> dstar: it's likely resolvconf the package
[16:11] <kalorin_> it does that to me as wel
[16:11] <stdin> the dhcp client will overwrite it with the information it receives
[16:11] <dstar> Sorry. I'm stuck using Gnome instead of KDE until I can convince plasma not to segfault as soon as I log in, and it's driving me _NUTS_.
[16:12] <kalorin_> heh
[16:12] <dstar> I'm set up for static, and the _nameserver_ info gets stuck in, just not the domain....
[16:12] <kalorin_> stdin, yeah but mine keeps getting overwritten with the dns servers from the vpn connection that I have set up
[16:12] <kalorin_> adds nameservers and a search domain
[16:12] <kalorin_> and then everything gets slow as I have to wait for it to time out when looking for anything
[16:13] <stdin> you'll need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf with "prepend domain-name-servers <IP of a DNS server>;" if you want to force a default
[16:13] <dstar> stdin: that should only happen if I'm using dhcp, right?
[16:14] <stdin> yes, dhclient only gets run for dhcp setup
[16:15] <dstar> Hmm. And I don't have the resolveconf package installed.
[16:16] <stdin> it's an outdated package, no longer needed
[16:17] <cyberponix> Ok I have searched and searched... I need help to find and get my ethernet working fresh install on a brand new computer
[16:18] <dstar> hmm.
[16:18] <cyberponix> its an nvidia network
[16:18] <cyberponix> on an NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 motherboard
[16:20] <dstar> Okay, so it's a static interface, and shouldn't be running dhcp, so that's not likely to be it. It's not resolveconf. What else could be overwriting resolve.conf?
[16:24] <dominique> why does kwin crash if i send it a HUP-signal?
[16:29] <kaeferadept> can anybody help me out please? a friend of mine that uses kubuntu 8.10 screwed up his sources.list. Does anyone has a working one?
[16:30] <dstar> kaeferadept: define screwed up?
[16:30] <kaeferadept> basically he deleted all entrys.
[16:31] <pidusd> can anybody help me with this weird experience that i had with kubuntu..my wired and wirless were working fine on kubuntu 8.10 a couple of hours ago
[16:31] <pidusd> and then the system crashed after it froze and the caps lock light kept blinking by reasons not known to me
[16:32] <pidusd> since then...both my wired and wireless network stopped working and now it refuses to work even on kubuntu 8.10 live cd but works fine on kubuntu 8.04 live cd
[16:33] <Rainarrow> Hello, my Firefox no longer knows how to open downloaded files/directories after I cleared my ~/.kde directory, it asks me use which program to open the file for ANY format I downloaded when I double click on them
[16:34] <pidusd> Rainarrow: am not sure, but i guess kde lost track of which default applications to use for which formats. for the time being you can search for appropriate applications if you know which one used to open which file extension
[16:34] <pidusd> most applications are contained in /usr/bin
[16:35] <treats> my terminal is stuck behind a proxy... does anyone know how to find the proxy settings?
[16:35] <Rainarrow> pidusd: thanks, but strangely, Dolphin still has the default app associations intact
[16:36] <Rainarrow> pidusd: and I can't even use the "Open Containing Folder" function in firefox, which still triggers the "Choose the app" dialog
[16:37] <pidusd> treats: go to system settings->network settings and there you should find an option to manually fill in proxy details
[16:37] <dominique> pidusd: file types and default applications are not saved in ~/.kde afaik
[16:37] <dstar> kaeferadept: I could let you have mine, but it's got a lot of extra stuff in it....
[16:37] <treats> pidusd: it is somewhere else... i changed that but I still recieve an error that my terminal is trying to go through a proxy
[16:38] <Rainarrow> dominique: I feel strange too, because I believe Firefox's setting should be in ~/.mozilla
[16:38] <kaeferadept> dstar: That shouldn't be a problem.
[16:38] <Rainarrow> dominique: which I didn't touch at all
[16:38] <dominique> Rainarrow: I don't get your problem exactly.
[16:39] <dominique> Rainarrow: Did the file associations once work?
[16:39] <Rainarrow> dominique: yes, of course
[16:39] <dstar> kaeferadept: http://pastie.org/363300
[16:40] <Rainarrow> dominique: and I just noticed it no longer works recently
[16:40] <Rainarrow> dominique: and the only thing I can recall is that I deleted my ~/.kde directory, since I accidentally removed the taskbar and didn't know how to get it back
[16:40] <dstar> pidusd: when you say your wired and wireless networks won't work, what's happening? Are the interfaces up?
[16:40] <pidusd> dstar: no, not in 8.10
[16:41] <pidusd> though they automatically do in 8.04
[16:41] <kaeferadept> thanks a lot. dstar
[16:41] <dstar> pidusd: What happens if you try to bring them up by hand? Do you get an error?
[16:41] <dstar> kaeferadept: no problem
[16:41] <pidusd> dstar: yeah..give me sec..i'll tell you the exact error
[16:43] <Adola> Hey!  I need help installing something using cmake
[16:44] <pidusd> dstar: ifconfig does show eth0 but when i try to ifup it says - "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[16:45] <dstar> pidusd: hmm... what does your interfaces file look like?
[16:45] <ame> hello ... i'd like to have an information: i've kubuntu 8.04 . If i upgrade this to 8.10 , settings (such as Video Card, Monitor....) that i have, remain or them change and I'll have to adjust them after installation?
[16:46] <pidusd> dstar: how should i find that out?
[16:46] <pidusd> dstar: i mean which files would contain interface details
[16:46] <ame> !upgrade
[16:47] <dstar> pidusd: /etc/network/interfaces
[16:47] <shadeslayer> hey i just wanted to know if i am right in thinking that .bin files run only in linux
[16:48] <pidusd> dstar: it has 2 entries auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[16:48] <dstar> pidusd: okay, that's why ifup isn't working. Are you using networkmanager, I assume?
[16:49] <pidusd> dstar: yup
[16:50] <dstar> pidusd: Ugh. NM is yet another example of GNOME thinking that Microsoft's 'we know what you want better than you do' attitude is something to be emulated, rather than scorned...
[16:51] <pidusd> dstar: :-) so what's the right course to fix it?
[16:51] <dstar> pidusd: Good luck debugging it. I switched to wicd after spending several hours tracking down a problem, only to find it was a known bug that the NM developers had no intention of fixing because they _wanted_ it to work that way.
[16:51] <dstar> pidusd: Use wicd. Wicd is _nice_.
[16:52] <pidusd> dstar: but isn't wicd yet another clone of NM?
[16:53] <dstar> pidusd: It has the same functionality, but from what I can see the developers are sane. When the 'scanning for new networks blocks all other activity for 10-15 seconds' problem was pointed out, they changed it to scan only when it needed new networks.
[16:53] <shadeslayer> and BTW has anyone used open SUSE withe KDE desktop
[16:54] <shadeslayer> *with the
[16:54] <dstar> pidusd: NM scans every two minutes. When someone suggested a configuration item to change that, the response was 'the idea behind NM is zero-configuration, so a configuration option is non-sensical'.
[16:54] <pidusd> dstar: but getting wicd without a internet on that machine will be :-(
[16:55] <dstar> pidusd: Keep in mind that the specific problem in that case was an intel wireless chipset that would _drop the association with the AP_ when scanning.....
[16:55] <kaeferadept> just curious: what packages are needed to get mp3s working?
[16:55] <dstar> pidusd: Is NM running?
[16:56] <pidusd> dstar: yes, but it says eth0 is disconnected.
[16:56] <shadeslayer> hey i just wanted to know if i am right in thinking that .bin files run only in linux
[16:56] <pidusd> dstar: even though it was working perfectly fine when i tried it using kubuntu 8.04 live cd
[16:56] <dstar> pidusd: Hmm. Okay, is eth0 dhcp or static?
[16:57] <pidusd> dstar: static
[16:58] <dstar> pidusd: Okay... oh, wait. ISTR that NM kept forgetting the network settings I'd given it. Does NM still have your network settings?
[17:00] <pidusd> dstar: yes, i think, because when i add a new wired connection to it, it does stay there but selecting it in the window has no effect
[17:00] <pidusd> dstar: is there a way to manually add the eth0 interface entry?
[17:01] <dstar> pidusd: Hrm. It didn't decide your wired connection should be dhcp?
[17:01] <pidusd> dstar, no.
[17:01] <dstar> pidusd: yeah, you can add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[17:01] <dstar> pidusd: and then ifup will work.
[17:01] <dstar> pidusd: man interfaces should tell you what you need to know
[17:02] <pidusd> dstar: cool! thanks, i hope it works
[17:02] <dstar> pidusd: no problem
[17:03] <dstar> how often are the official packages for the amd proprietary drivers updated?
[17:07] <KomiaPoika> dstar: better use drivers directly from nvidia website
[17:08] <dstar> KomiaPoika: Is it really? When I did that, plasma started crashing when I logged in, thus forcing me to use Gnome.
[17:10] <dstar> KomiaPoika: So I figured that was a mistake.
[17:10] <killermach> I have a nvidia 7300 video card, does anyone have the component (RGB) out setup?
[17:11] <cyberponix> dstar i am having a very close issue as you.... I can not get my nvidia ethernet working
[17:11] <killermach> I have the RGB adapter plugged in and the RGB connected to a tv, but the tv does not find an input
[17:11] <cyberponix> luckly I have two computers the new one no net connection and this one witch works just fine..
[17:11] <dstar> cyberponix: pidusd was the one having the network problem....
[17:12] <cyberponix> oh sorry
[17:12] <killermach> so I must not have the video card outputing to the RGB port
[17:12] <cyberponix> pidusd anyluck?
[17:13] <pidusd> cyberponix: not yet, will get back as soon as i do have any luck
[17:13] <cyberponix> How long have u been working at this?
[17:13] <pidusd> before 5 hours i had no problems it was working fine, then kubuntu crashed and since then it has refused to budge
[17:14] <cyberponix> I have not had a connection sence the install
[17:14] <cyberponix>  yesterday
[17:20] <ghostcube> pidusd, you can set all networks static in interfaces in /etc/network afaik
[17:20] <ghostcube> then just restart network from /etc/init.d/
[17:21] <ghostcube> and dont forget to set an nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:21] <pidusd> ghostcube: but i don't have an existing /etc/resolv.conf, should i create one?
[17:21] <analid> a program to edit grub ubuntu?
[17:22] <ghostcube> analid, grub editor in systemsettings ?
[17:22] <ThomasD> analid: grub
[17:22] <caveman> Caveman
[17:22] <ThomasD> analid: kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:23] <ghostcube> pidusd, you uninstalled network-mamanger ?
[17:23] <ghostcube> maybe it removed the files
[17:23] <pidusd> ghostcube: no
[17:23] <ghostcube> but this shouldnt happen
[17:24] <ghostcube> you need an resolv.conf to get  network for inet working
[17:24] <pidusd> ghostcube: can i manually make one?
[17:24] <analid> a graphic editor for grub
[17:25] <ghostcube> analid, system,settings advanced grub
[17:25] <pidusd> ghostcube: i did remove NM earlier, but then i reinstalled kubuntu. so, i guess the Knetworkmanager entry its showing is a fresh one
[17:26] <ghostcube> have u edited the network inside the manager till now?
[17:26] <ghostcube> if there isnt a resolv.conf just create one
[17:26] <pidusd> ghostcube: yes, but to no good.
[17:26] <pidusd> ok
[17:26] <analid> im have hardy
[17:26] <ghostcube> analid, hmmm
[17:26] <ghostcube> ok then no kde4
[17:26] <ghostcube> :D
[17:26] <analid> no
[17:26] <analid> kde3
[17:26] <KomiaPoika> dstar: the resulting xorg.conf may need a little tweaking, but overall, the driver is more stable and performant
[17:27] <KomiaPoika> dstar: always shutdown gdm/kdm before installing it
[17:27] <dstar> KomiaPoika: okay
[17:27] <KomiaPoika> ps ax|grep gdm
[17:27] <KomiaPoika> kill the pid's
[17:27] <KomiaPoika> then sh NVIDA-...... .run
[17:27] <KomiaPoika> as root
[17:27] <dstar> KomiaPoika: maybe the next driver version will help.
[17:28] <KomiaPoika> the latest one even works on xen kernel
[17:28] <analid> see u thanx
[17:28] <ghostcube> pidusd, you know what to put into the resdolv.conf ?
[17:28] <pidusd> ghostcube: no, i was about to ask that.
[17:28] <pidusd> i did try adding an entry through NM, but that had no effect
[17:28] <ghostcube> nameserver ipoftheserver
[17:29] <pidusd> in the same format as interfaces?
[17:29] <ghostcube> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[17:29] <ghostcube> for example
[17:29] <ghostcube> not more
[17:29] <pidusd> ok
[17:30] <ghostcube> you need to get the nam3eserver if not youre router does dns you need th eone from isp
[17:30] <pidusd> am on lan...i know my static ip
[17:30] <ghostcube> hmm nah the dns server of youre ispo is needed inside resolv.conf
[17:31] <ghostcube> not related to local lan
[17:31] <pidusd> i know that as well
[17:31] <ghostcube> ok
[17:31] <ghostcube> :)
[17:32] <pidusd> what should i do after that?
[17:33] <pidusd> my /etc/network doesn't contain anything
[17:34] <vincenzo_> pls who send me link ubuntu it??
[17:34] <vincenzo_> ubuntu it link
[17:35] <pidusd> i tried to ifup after adding entries to /etc/interface and adding dns entry in resolv.conf
[17:35] <pidusd> but that returned SIOCADDRT: File exists
[17:35] <pidusd> Failes to bring up eth0
[17:36] <pidusd> *Failed
[17:36] <vincenzo_> italiani??
[17:36] <Tm_T> !it | vincenzo_
[17:38] <qcjn> hi, how, or what to use to rename multiple files ?
[17:39] <webaska> can anyone tell me the program to record screen? ive tried instanbul recorded but it makes pc very laggy..
[17:40] <pidusd> qcjn: write a shell/perl script
[17:40] <Mysterious> I cant eject my dvd @_@
[17:40] <qcjn> i don't know how
[17:40] <qcjn> have an exemple
[17:40] <pidusd> google you'll find one easily
[17:40] <webaska> lol mysterious haha :D try eject via konqueror.. on icon right click..
[17:41] <qcjn> pidusd: ok, i ll look
[17:41] <Mysterious> webaska: I tried @_@'
[17:41] <pidusd> ghostcube: are you still around?
[17:42] <webaska> you will take your cd after pc restart.. just after pc restarts push eject..it must work :) the last chance
[17:42] <pidusd> Mysterious: you can use eject
[17:42] <pidusd> on konsole
[17:43] <Mysterious> pidusd: umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy.
[17:43] <lorenzo> Salve
[17:43] <ghostcube> pidusd, yes
[17:44] <pidusd> i tried doing what you said but ifup still returns SIOCADDRT: File exists
[17:45] <pidusd> having added appropriate entries to /etc/network/interfaces
[17:46] <pidusd> Mysterious: are you doing this after close all instances where cd rom might be getting used?
[17:46] <pidusd> *closing
[17:47] <pidusd> try doing sudo /dev/cdrom
[17:48] <pidusd> err sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[17:48] <Mysterious> pidusd same
[17:49] <pidusd> Mysterious: you can kill the process that might be using cdrom..but then i don't know how to help you in identifying that process
[17:51] <ghostcube> pidusd, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[17:52]  * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[17:52] <pidusd> ghostcube i don't have a network file, in there i have a networking file in there..though i did restart it and it reconfigured Network interfaces
[17:53] <ghostcube> yeah this one
[17:53] <ghostcube> networking
[17:53] <xp-killer> i want to do an upgrade.i wont to know if im going to loose what i store and my configuration
[17:54] <pidusd> i did that, it said reconfiguring network interfaces but nothing worked....ahh maybe something did..just a sec
[17:55] <xp-killer> the heck with it im going to upgrade
[17:55] <ghostcube> xp-killer, ehm what ?
[17:56] <pidusd> ghostcube: hey it did work :-)
[17:57] <pidusd> sorry for bugging you so bad...but just wanted to ask one last (set) of questions :P
[17:57] <ghostcube> :)
[17:57] <xp-killer> ghostcube: it buggy on kubuntu so i want to upgrade,if i do will i still  have my configurations ,bookmarks,and save data on my pc
[17:57] <xp-killer> ?
[17:58] <markit> I've kubuntu with 4.1-96 in 2 laptops. One works fine, the second one, as soon as I try to logout, instead of presenting me the log screen, makes the screen go crazy (lot of strange character mode symbols). Is it a known issue?
[17:59] <ghostcube> xp-killer, this wont be deleted
[17:59] <pidusd> NM worked perfectly fine on my machine before kubuntu crashed a couple of hours ago and then NM stopped working...but can you think of why it didn't work perfectly, once again when i installed a fresh copy of kubuntu?
[17:59] <xp-killer> ghostcube: and for my graphic card?
[17:59] <ghostcube> pidusd, hmm have u done all upgrades
[17:59] <ghostcube> xp-killer, xorg.conf wont be touched but you can macke a backup of it
[18:00] <pidusd> and even the live cd won't let me connect to the network. How could i have removed the past traces beyond formatting /
[18:00] <xp-killer> ok
[18:00] <ghostcube> so if its not working after just use the backup of the file
[18:00] <xp-killer> then UPGRADE HERE WE GO
[18:00] <ghostcube> pidusd, my card on my board isnt recognized by kernel on 8.10 install cd
[18:00] <ghostcube> i need to put in an pci then update kernel then it works
[18:00] <ghostcube> :D
[18:01] <pidusd> but mine was...atleast the ethernet card used to, when i installed kubuntu from the same disk..maybe a month ago
[18:01] <ghostcube> and networlkmanager deletes sometimes the things inside the resolv.conf dont know if this is fixed till now
[18:01] <ghostcube> pidusd, not big trouble its better to set manually then it most times work
[18:01] <ghostcube> but pidusd you can try opening the proposed repos and catching the newest stuff
[18:02] <pidusd> ghostcube: :-) thanks a ton
[18:02] <pidusd> yeah am doing exactly that...but i don't like adept..d/ling synaptic to do that
[18:02] <ghostcube> ehm just put the repo in it like on kubuntu.org described for update to 4..4
[18:02] <ghostcube> ehm just put the repo in it like on kubuntu.org described for update to 4.1.4
[18:03] <ghostcube> then sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:03] <webaska> how to check or modify xorg.conf ? i forgot
[18:04] <pidusd> ghostcube: doing exactly that...but my net is slow...and it'd probably through the night
[18:04] <pidusd> :-)
[18:04] <ghostcube> heh
[18:05] <ghostcube> Tm_T, wth lol
[18:05] <ghostcube> webaska, vi or nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:06] <Tm_T> ghostcube: watch that language of yours
[18:06] <ghostcube> Tm_T, sure :)
[18:06] <webaska> ah yes..thanks
[18:15] <pkodon> Okay, is Kopete locked up again?
[18:15] <pkodon> Hello? Can anyone see me?
[18:19] <alexandremrj> hello everyone
[18:23] <alexandremrj> hello, can anyone tell until when will kubuntu hardy be supported?
[18:25] <Gotaro> Would anyone like to help a newbie (me) out? :P
[18:25] <xp-killer> ghostcube: ok i do full upgrade what do i have to do now cause nothing happen after the upgrade
[18:25] <pidusd> 3 years from 2008-04-24 for desktop ed and 5 years for server ed
[18:26] <xp-killer> Gotaro: just ask question and people will try to help u
[18:26] <ghostcube> xp-killer, btw what have u updated and why :)
[18:27] <alexandremrj> pidusd: thanks, event with KDE 3.5 it will be supported right? I didn't know if it was LTS or not
[18:27] <xp-killer> ghostcube: i upgraded cause i was having to mutch problems, do i have to restart the pc for the upgrade to take effects?
[18:27] <alexandremrj> pidusd: Because I already saw in some places that would only be supported thru October 2009
[18:28] <Gotaro> Well..  I screwed up my KDE somehow.  The last thing I did was install some C++ compiler to attempt to get cmake to work to attempt to get the latest ver. of QtCurve installed. :)  How do I undo? :P
[18:28] <ghostcube> bah brb
[18:28] <pidusd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron states its LTS
[18:28] <xp-killer> Gotaro: lol the way u talking u dont sound like a newb to me i aint understand not one word u said there
[18:29] <xp-killer> restarting his machine
[18:29] <ghostcube> xp-killer, if there was an new kernel u need to restart
[18:29] <ghostcube> :|
[18:30] <Gotaro> Is there a way to view everything installed from apt-get by date installed?
[18:30] <cuznt> i have a nfts that i want to force mount. dolphins warning stated  mount -t nfts -3g/dev/sdb1/media/cuznt -o force   is there an error with my spacing or use of o vs 0 >?
[18:32] <alexandremrj> pidusd: But according to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002069.html then Kubuntu 8.04 will not be LTS, althoug Ubuntu is
[18:32] <alexandremrj> i really don't know
[18:33] <pkodon> Gah!
[18:33] <pidusd> then it won't be :P
[18:33] <cyberponix> pidusd anyluck yet?
[18:33] <pidusd> are you planning to use it for some commercial, high end use
[18:33] <pkodon> Kopete keeps going into some sort of 80%+ cpu useage, and I don't know why!
[18:33] <pidusd> cyberponix: yeah...my network is now working
[18:34] <alexandremrj> pidusd: Low life computer and simply can't handle updates so I would like to see when will I need to buy pc
[18:34] <cyberponix> I switch my new computer over to the new opensuse it booted loaded everything no issues
[18:36] <cyberponix> when/if kubuntu comeout with more nvida based motherboard help i'll put it onto the new compu
[18:36] <pidusd> cyberponix: i don't think i can help you much..as i know little.but tell me what troubles are you facing..and if they are similar to mine i might be able to help
[18:37] <Gotaro> Does anyone know a good forums website to post questions about Linux/Kubuntu?
[18:39] <pidusd> Gotaro: http://www.kubuntu.org/support
[18:41] <cyberponix> I bought a new computer yesterday. I spent the night and most of today working on getting the driver needed for the nvidia network card to no avail.... opensuse had it all there install went smooth everything is working with opensuse
[18:42] <saverio> hola
[18:43] <pidusd> cyberponix: wirless card?
[18:43] <pidusd> *wireless
[18:44] <cuznt> i have a nfts that i want to force mount. dolphins warning stated  mount -t nfts -3g/dev/sdb1/media/cuznt -o force   it does not work not even with sudo
[18:46] <cyberponix> no ethernet
[18:46] <pidusd> do you still have kubuntu installed on the machine?
[18:52] <Army_Man> umm
[18:52] <Army_Man> hello
[18:53] <ghostcube> cyberponix, hmm you need to get a newer kernel
[18:53] <ghostcube> with the driver inluded
[18:53] <ghostcube> mybe try an daily live cd for kubuntu witrh updated packages
[18:55] <pidusd> ghostcube: will i need to sudo /etc/init.d/network restart every time i restart my machine?
[18:55] <ghostcube> pidusd, should work out of th ebox if u set all inside the files
[18:55] <ddmdllt> hi
[18:55] <jussi01> Army_Man: you need some help?
[18:55] <pidusd> cool
[18:56] <Army_Man> umm nop i was in the ubunto offical site i wanted to see the help server they have .. maybe i could learn something here :)
[18:57] <jussi01> :)
[18:57] <Army_Man> :)
[18:58] <Mohd> tell me .. ubunto server only in command line ! no GUI support right ?
[18:58] <ghostcube> depends but normally defaulet with no guy
[18:59] <Mohd> i installed ubunto server eddition it didnt give me any choice for GUI
[19:00] <jussi01> Mohd: thats right. servers shouldnt have guis
[19:00] <Mohd> jussi01 :) thx i wanted to hear that answer
[19:00] <cuznt> !parted
[19:00] <cuznt> !kparted
[19:00] <Mohd> its hard to work under shell command :S
[19:00] <jussi01> !info parted
[19:00] <cuznt> !qparted
[19:01] <cuznt> it says i have it installed
[19:01] <cuznt> but it aint there
[19:01] <Guest8157> ciao
[19:01] <jussi01> cuznt: you have qtparted installed?
[19:02] <Guest8157> no
[19:02] <cuznt> no it shows just parted
[19:02] <Guest8157> whait
[19:02] <cuznt> but i can not find it
[19:02] <jussi01> cuznt: Parted is just the cli / backend
[19:02] <jussi01> you need qtparted
[19:02] <cuznt> i actually have a ntfs i cant mount either
[19:02] <cuznt> i thought so
[19:02] <jussi01> !info qtparted
[19:02] <cuznt> i will find it
[19:08] <linduxed_> ive just changed colour style, but my konversation is unchanged
[19:08] <matt___> I bought a bluetooth adapter...not sure if it works with linux. Never tried anything like this before...so not sure where to start. Any suggestions?
[19:08] <shadeslayer> matt__:bluetooth is broken in kubuntu 8.10
[19:09] <shadeslayer> read the release notes
[19:09] <matt___> shadeslayer: surely not? why? Well is there someone to fix it? how about ubuntu 8.10?
[19:09] <matt___> shadeslayer: and by the way..i'm using kubuntu 11.5
[19:09] <matt___> ;0
[19:10] <shadeslayer> no idea about ubuntu but my inbuilt bluetooth does not function under Kubuntu 8.10
[19:10] <cuznt> qtparted shows not up in adept.
[19:10] <linduxed_> any idea why and what i have to conf to get it to change from all gray to black?
[19:10] <shadeslayer> 11.5 :O
[19:10] <cuznt> nor can i find synaptic
[19:10] <cuznt> package manager
[19:10] <matt___> shadeslayer: wel I don't know where to start...
[19:10] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:10] <shadeslayer> \
[19:10] <shadeslayer> well ill be updating to open SUSE tommorow
[19:11] <matt___> All I'd like to do is to find out if this thing right here is compatible with linux.
[19:11] <matt___> shadeslayer: does the newest suse 11.1 work right with it?
[19:11] <Knysliux001> cuznt: Kubuntu default preinstalled package manager is adept
[19:11] <shadeslayer> i dont think so
[19:11] <shadeslayer> asking the same thing in #suse
[19:12] <shadeslayer> they dont have a answer as of now
[19:12] <matt___> shadeslayer: Well bluetooth used to work in these things, right? I wouldn't have bought the thing if I knew I wouldn't possibly get it to working quickly.
[19:13] <shadeslayer> it used to in previous versions
[19:14] <shadeslayer> ill see if it works in SUSE tomorrow
[19:14] <shadeslayer> keeps his fingers crossed
[19:15] <matt___> shadeslayer: Well...what happens if you do:
[19:15] <matt___> lsusb | grep Blu
[19:15] <matt___> in terminal...supposedly tells you if it is detected. For me...I can't even detect my device.
[19:15] <shadeslayer> huh????
[19:15] <shadeslayer> oh im in windows right now
[19:16] <matt___> shadeslayer: Oh. ;{}
[19:16] <shadeslayer> was playing crysis for the past half an hour
[19:16] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:16] <matt___> Does it run Crysis?
[19:16] <shadeslayer> yup
[19:17] <matt___> LOL
[19:17] <shadeslayer> there are some apps wine doesnt do a good job of executing
[19:17] <shadeslayer> for eg:gtalk,crysis
[19:18] <ISF> hi
[19:18] <shadeslayer> !hi
[19:18] <matt___> shadeslayer: I don't really like wine...just don't have time to fiddle with it.
[19:18] <ISF> can someone help me? i'm having problems booting kubuntu live cd
[19:18] <shadeslayer> yeah,it runs some apps while others dont work
[19:19] <shadeslayer> ISF:state your problem well try to help
[19:19] <ISF> after language select and  loading logo, my screen turns pink and fuzzy black
[19:20] <shadeslayer> did you try it in the safe graphics mode???
[19:20] <shadeslayer> pressing F4 brings up various modes
[19:20] <ISF> hum..
[19:21] <ISF> i will try that
[19:21] <ISF> thanks for the hepl
[19:21] <ISF> *help
[19:21] <shadeslayer> glad to be of help
[19:21] <ISF> =) cya
[19:22] <christopher> Hello people :P
[19:22] <shadeslayer> matt__:will you be here this time tomorrow,ill tell you if the BT worked or not
[19:24] <nashk> Hi, is there a programt I can use to record using my latop camera and take snapshots?
[19:25] <setuid_w00t> The kubuntu DVD is a liveCD right?
[19:26] <setuid_w00t> well not CD really I guess
[19:26] <HighHo> !dvd
[19:26] <HighHo> ok thats not help, i assume it is but never used it
[19:27] <shadeslayer>  setuid_w00t:yes i can confirm that
[19:27] <setuid_w00t> Does the kubuntu DVD have kparted on it>?
[19:27] <setuid_w00t> I want to boot and then do some partition resizing/moving
[19:27] <setuid_w00t> or gparted
[19:28] <shadeslayer> setuid_w00t:yes it allows you to resize the partitions during install
[19:28] <p_quarles> setuid_w00t: yes, it has gparted, I believe; hard to install without a partition editor
[19:28] <KomiaPoika> can someone accept a dcc transfer from me for testing purposes?
[19:28] <setuid_w00t> I don't want to do an install.  I already have one.  I just want to move data around due to buying a new hard drive
[19:29] <shadeslayer> setuid_w00t:dunno if it has that facility
[19:30] <p_quarles> setuid_w00t: my point is that an installation disk *has* to have a partition editor on it
[19:31] <p_quarles> setuid_w00t: so if you have a disk that can install Kubuntu, you know by logical deduction that it has a partition editor on it as well
[19:35] <KomiaPoika> can someone accept a dcc transfer from me for testing purposes?
[19:37] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: please use pastebin
[19:37] <Mamarok> !pastebin
[19:38] <KomiaPoika> Mamarok: i'm trying to test my dcc forwarding
[19:38] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: we don't use dcc here, sry
[19:48] <mib_2al3xw> Gah!
[19:48] <Lazers> Kubuntu died on me!
[19:49] <Lazers> Can't log in, sometimes i just go back to the login page, once i got an 'X-emulator' error.
[19:50] <wizardslovak> hello
[19:50] <wizardslovak> i am bored as hell , what interesting i can do on kubuntu?
[19:50] <Lazers> Don't do anything.
[19:50] <Lazers> That way it mghit actually stay *working* .
[19:50] <wizardslovak> lol
[19:51] <wizardslovak> i know
[19:51] <wizardslovak> whats is the command to update system?
[19:51] <maxbaldwin> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:52] <maxbaldwin> try installing the package "lightyears" and play it, wizardslovak
[19:52] <wizardslovak> maxbaldwin:  thank you
[19:52] <wizardslovak> what is that? game?
[19:52] <maxbaldwin> yeah
[19:52] <wizardslovak> btw how are you people
[19:52] <maxbaldwin> peachy.
[19:53] <Lazers> Can I fix Kubuntu?
[19:53] <Lazers> Or is it screwed and requires a fresh install?
[19:54] <maxbaldwin> what's your problem again Lazers?
[19:54] <Lazers> Can't log in, sometimes i just go back to the login page, once i got an 'X-emulator' error.
[19:54] <Lazers> KDE's basically gone
[19:54] <Lazers> LOL FUCK U
[19:54] <Lazers> >_>
[19:55] <Tm_T> Lazers: stop cursing
[19:55] <maxbaldwin> there isn't a need for that kind of language, Lazers
[19:55] <Lazers> It worked fine.
[19:55] <Lazers> i shut it down, about 6 hours ago.
[19:55] <Lazers> Now it doesn't work.
[19:55] <xevix> 4.2 rc1 konsole's terminal is no longer pure black, it seems to have a fuzzy slightly white layer on it.  anyone know how to make it full black again?
[19:56] <wizardslovak> maxbaldwin:  what kind of game is it? lightyears
[19:56] <Goan> Hi, I am trying to install TPTP (Profiler Plugin) for Eclipse Java. Has anyone installed it before on Kubuntu?
[19:57] <maxbaldwin> wizardslovak: fun one to keep you busy.
[19:57] <Lazers> Well, I';m screwed then.
[19:58] <wizardslovak> arent all games for that hehehe , i mean what kind is it? strategy?shooter?
[19:58] <maxbaldwin> Lazers: just use the ole' CLI
[19:58] <maxbaldwin> that's fun
[19:58] <d0htem> hi ive install minimal 8.04 install ive got knetworkmanager installed but it not showing any active devices
[19:58] <maxbaldwin> wizardslovak: strategy.
[19:58] <d0htem> when i reboot network manager shuts down the wlan iface but..
[19:58] <wizardslovak> i love strategies
[19:58] <Lazers> CL?
[19:58] <maxbaldwin> d0htem: how about "lsusb | pastebinit" (I think)
[19:59] <Lazers> CLi?
[19:59] <d0htem> usb??
[19:59] <maxbaldwin> Command Line Interface instead of a Graphical User Interface
[19:59] <Lazers> Can't run graphical programs then.
[19:59] <maxbaldwin> yeah, I believe lsusb is the command...
[19:59] <d0htem> lspci?
[19:59] <maxbaldwin> ah, that's the one.
[19:59] <HighHo> xevix: its either desktop effects or the apperance settings in konsole.
[19:59] <d0htem> i have the driver installed that the the issue
[19:59] <d0htem> ive built a minimal kde install from scratch
[20:00] <Lazers> Gah.
[20:00] <Lazers> So I need to reinstall from the CD?
[20:00] <Lazers> That sucks.
[20:00] <xevix> HighHo, this happened on change from 4.1 to 4.2, i changed no settings.  this is on both of my kubuntu machines.
[20:00] <d0htem> i need to get knetwork manager gui to see the ifaces.
[20:01] <maxbaldwin> Lazers: can you boot into the terminal? if so, you may need to reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[20:01] <xevix> i have no desktop effects enabled
[20:01] <Lazers> I can boot into terminal
[20:01] <Lazers> How do I do that?
[20:01] <Lazers> I had KDE 4.2 rc
[20:01] <maxbaldwin> d0htem: you need the little applet thing?
[20:01] <HighHo> xevix: in konsole click the Settings menu > Edit current profile > and select apperince tab
[20:01] <d0htem> i have it, but its says no active devices... but when i restart network manager shutsdown wlan0
[20:02] <xevix> HighHo, it still says "green on black"
[20:02] <d0htem> so something small is wrong here
[20:02] <d0htem> like a config or something?
[20:02] <Lazers> So thats..
[20:02] <Lazers> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[20:02] <maxbaldwin> no idea d0htem, maybe #ubuntuforums knows
[20:02] <xevix> HighHo, oh no it doesn't, it says dark pastels, hah haaaaaaaaaaaa, thank you =)
[20:02] <maxbaldwin> no Lazers
[20:03] <Lazers> ..So..?
[20:03] <maxbaldwin> one second, I don't want to screw your computer up
[20:03] <HighHo> xevix: Your welcome
[20:03] <Lazers> Kubuntus already screwed up.
[20:03] <maxbaldwin> I'm looking for the way to do it, one sec.
[20:03] <maxbaldwin> one second, I don't want to screw your computer up *more*
[20:03] <Lazers> ..Right.
[20:04] <dominique> !mimelnk
[20:04] <Lazers> !kde
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:04] <dominique> !thankyou
[20:04] <xevix> 4.2 sure is pretty
[20:05] <Lazers> i get an 'unable to launch failsafe x terminal '
[20:05] <Lazers> error
[20:06] <maxbaldwin> are you in a terminal now, Lazers
[20:06] <Lazers> No.
[20:06] <Lazers> windows.
[20:06] <maxbaldwin> ok....
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Lazers: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a failsafe root console
[20:07] <dominique> Does anyone know what formats the files in mimelnk have to be?
[20:07] <maxbaldwin> so, in the terminal, you want to run...
[20:07] <Lazers> Tried
[20:07] <maxbaldwin> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop kde-core kdm && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get purge && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kde-core kdm
[20:07] <Lazers> x_x
[20:07] <Lazers> Hold on.
[20:07] <maxbaldwin> would reinstall everything for you.
[20:07] <maxbaldwin> but ActionParsnip probably has a better idea, so do that first
[20:08] <d0htem> i woudl remove kde-core kdm from the end
[20:08] <d0htem> just sudo apt-get INSTALL kubuntu-desktop
[20:08] <maxbaldwin> isn't that what;s messing him up, d0htem
[20:08] <maxbaldwin> he can't login via KDE login screen?
[20:08] <Lazers> no
[20:08] <d0htem> well thats just kdm then
[20:08] <dominique> kde login screen? .
[20:08] <dominique> there is no kde login screen
[20:08] <Lazers> ya
[20:08] <Lazers> ...
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> dominique: find one that works and run the file command with it, it will tell you
[20:09] <maxbaldwin> :\ I don't know what I'm doing then.
[20:09] <dominique> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately there is no file in mimelnk
[20:09] <HighHo> Lazers: From the console what happens if you just try and run "X"?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Lazers: unless you have uninstalled kdm it wil possibly be a bad xorg.conf
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Lazers: try the startx command
[20:10] <dominique> Lazers: alternately try startx or initx
[20:10] <d0htem> dominique: are u serious?
[20:10] <dominique> d0htem: I am.
[20:10] <d0htem> no kde login screen?
[20:10] <d0htem> ...
[20:10] <dominique> i thaught it's X who creates the login screen
[20:10] <dominique> kde is started after the login, or not?
[20:10] <Lazers> initx gives error
[20:11] <d0htem> lazers how did this all occur?
[20:11] <Lazers> X fails
[20:11] <HighHo> Lazers: If you can access /var/log/kdm.log can you place it on pastebin?
[20:11] <Lazers> I don't know
[20:11] <Lazers> not from the console
[20:11] <Lazers> rebooting to try that thing
[20:11] <blocky> hi all
[20:11] <dominique> Lazers: What error?
[20:11] <blocky> just installed 8.10 and im liking the kde4 look but im looking for ways to make the desktop "feel" a bit more responsive
[20:11] <Lazers> from kubuntu log in:
[20:12] <Lazers> unable to launch failsafe x terminal '
[20:12] <blocky> got any tips for a dual core laptop with a geforce 7300 go
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> blocky: how do you mean tips?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> blocky: have you installed your video card drivers?
[20:12] <maxbaldwin> can you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login from a console??
[20:12] <blocky> yes
[20:12] <Lazers> Yes
[20:12] <blocky> direct rendering is enabled
[20:13] <Lazers> Away i go
[20:13] <blocky> i tried renicing plasma and xorg
[20:13] <d0htem> Lazers: maybe try to reinstall xorg?
[20:13] <dominique> Can you login there Lazesr?
[20:13] <Lazers> How do I do that?
[20:13] <Lazers> I think that 'might' work.
[20:13] <d0htem> sudo apt-get remove xorg; sudo apt-get install xorg
[20:13] <d0htem> u might need to sudo apt-get autoremove but i dooubt it
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> blocky: get full updates and check settings in system settings
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> blocky: how much ram do you have?
[20:13] <blocky> 1 gb
[20:14] <blocky> i updated last night after i installed
[20:14] <Lazers> trying
[20:14] <dagfunny> hi
[20:14] <Lazers> bye
[20:14] <maxbaldwin> uh.. bye.
[20:14] <dagfunny> where are the german kubuntu chan ?
[20:14] <blocky> i just installed compiz settings manager to see if theres anything in there
[20:14] <Adola> Hey!  I have two harddrives, I dual-boot.  I'm on Kubuntu right now. (KDE 4.2RC1)  And I can't find...Nor have I EVER been able to find the other partition.
[20:14] <dominique> dagfunny: #kubuntu-de
[20:14] <dagfunny> ah
[20:14] <dagfunny> thx
[20:15] <HighHo> !partitions
[20:15] <dominique> Adola: Check your /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab
[20:15] <HighHo> !fstab
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> blocky: which version of kde are you using?
[20:16] <blocky> how can i find out where the bottleneck is, performance wise
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> blocky: and please type (and tab complete) my name at the start of sentences
[20:16] <dominique> blocky: Maybe top gives you information about what consumes your cpu time
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> blocky: so my name highlights like I am yours
[20:17] <blocky> ActionParsnip: will do
[20:17] <blocky> ActionParsnip: im checking the kde version but i think its 4.1
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> blocky: better :), makes it easier to read in a room of 316 people
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> blocky: what model, speed cpu do you have, the more info the better]
[20:18]  * ActionParsnip prays its not a smelleron
[20:19] <blocky> haha
[20:19] <blocky> nope
[20:19] <blocky> ActionParsnip: it's an intel something duo
[20:19] <blocky> ActionParsnip: where can i get a good summary of all that info cause i dont know offhand :P
[20:20] <Adola> Also, I'm getting an error with VLC it says "VLC doesn not support the audio or video format "undf" Unfortuantely there is no way for you to fix this.  (It's a flv. file
[20:20] <LazersM> Tried reinstalling Xorg
[20:21] <LazersM> Nope
[20:21] <treats1> somehow I set a proxy for terminal ONLY and I can't figure out how to disable this..  any idea anyone?
[20:21] <LazersM> Trying to reinstall kde
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> blocky: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:22] <treats1> LazersM: what is the command for that?
[20:22] <bukharin> Adola: yo, hi, did you mange to solve your libmsn problem?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Adola: does it have a file extension?
[20:22] <blocky> ActionParsnip: okay its a 2mb cache what else do you want to know
[20:22] <LazersM> Whats the command to init k?
[20:22] <bukharin> Adola: i'm curious as to what it was in the end...
[20:23] <blocky> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz
[20:23] <Adola> bukharin: No, I updated to beta 3 and no, I'm still unable to connect.  (I can connect just fine on Highspeed)
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> blocky: should be fine then
[20:23] <blocky> ActionParsnip: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz
[20:23] <Adola> ActionParsnip: Yeah, it's a flv.  I can play other flv's on it.
[20:23] <blocky> yea thats what i thought
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Adola: what is the output of: file <flv file here>
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> blocky: i'd run top for a while, see whats going on
[20:24] <LazersM> How to init K?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> LazersM: kwin --replace
[20:24] <blocky> ActionParsnip: ive had system monitor open for about 15 minutes
[20:24] <LazersM> ok..
[20:24] <LazersM> Says
[20:24] <LazersM> $display not set
[20:25] <LazersM> Screw it
[20:25] <blocky> ActionParsnip: xorg is idling between 3 and 6% cpu usage
[20:25] <Adola> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[20:26] <blocky> ActionParsnip: or as high as 10%
[20:26] <Adola> ActionParsnip: "Marcomedia Flash Video
[20:26] <HighHo> LazersM: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Adola: you have an flv file, for example, if the file was in your home directory and called tattoo.flv, you can run the command: file ~/tattoo.flv
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Adola: and it will tell you what it is, file extensions mean very little in linux
[20:27] <HighHo> LazersM: you should probably also run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Adola: file will tell you exactly what it is
[20:27] <christoz> hello, i'm not familiar with kde, so i would like some help on installing a theme packet, the problem is that the kde's manager doesn't recognize the packet as a theme one
[20:27] <Adola> ActionParsnip: It said "Macromedia Flash Video"...Will VLC not play that?
[20:28] <christoz> what type of file is a theme file?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Adola: if you can play other flv files but not this one its possibly corrupted
[20:28] <Adola> ActionParsnip: However, I did that to another .flv that works.  And it too came up "Macromedia Flash Video"
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Adola: you could try playing it in mplayer or another player app
[20:29] <bukharin> is anyone here experienceing a weird bug where the system slows down to a crawl erratically and the cpu LED reports a lot a hd activity?
[20:29] <bukharin> i'm sicken tired of it...
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> bukharin: i get that when i run kde desktop on my system. i dont get it in fluxbox and i havent diagnosed it
[20:31] <bukharin> ActionParrsnip: well, me a nd my brother have both experienced it... but we don't know where to ebgin diagnosing...
[20:31] <treats1> !topic
[20:32] <bukharin> ActionParrsnip: seems to be related to firefox, though
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> bukharin: dmesg | tail right after it occurs
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> bukharin: if you suspect firefox, create a new user and log in as that and run the system an hour or so
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> bukharin: you will have stock settings then, you can also reinstall firefox to see if that helps
[20:34] <bukharin> ActionParsnip: i'll look into that... i had the hope it was a little more common...
[20:34] <bukharin> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tips
[20:34] <Adola> Could someone please help me set up my my system to recognize my secondary harddrive?  (I read teh pages sent..But, I got kinda lost...)
[20:35] <markus> hi all,  i wonder if there's anyone here who can help me with K3b, problem with iso image burning
[20:36] <ghostcube> markus, afaik its a known problem
[20:36] <ghostcube> no idea how far the fix is
[20:37] <markus> ok, then just wonder why K3b is included in distros, when it cannot do what its supposed to do?
[20:38] <markus> any other way to burn iso?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> markus: works flawlessly here
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> !burning | markus
[20:39] <markus> thanx ubottu, i'll have a look
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> markus: if you wanna burn the iso with k3b, right click the iso and select open with, then select k3b
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> markus: or from command line: k3b /path/to/file.iso
[20:40] <WDC> Hello
[20:40] <WDC> I am trying to install Amarok on Ubuntu with XFCE (not Xubuntu) and I can't figure it out.
[20:40] <WDC> Amarok 2*
[20:40] <blueop> hi I have a question?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> !ask | blueop
[20:41] <WDC> Can someone please help?
[20:41] <bukharin> how can i leave shell running following dmesg?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> WDC: sudo apt-get install amarok
[20:41] <WDC> ActionParsnip: That's the older version, not 2
[20:41] <bukharin> WDC:
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> WDC: amarok2 is on a 3rd party repo which you will need to add yourself
[20:41] <WDC> ActionParsnip: Ah. do you have that?
[20:41] <christoz> in order to install a kde theme what should i do first?
[20:41] <bukharin> WDC: you have to add the ppa, and sudo apt-get update
[20:41] <markus> i've tried K3b in hardy and the one before that, in both it kind of starts (says its burning) but nothing actually happens.
[20:41] <blueop> Im getting into ethical hacking and was wondering if the edimax ew7318 was a good choice for easy configurement in ubuntu
[20:42] <bukharin> WDC: sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[20:42] <WDC> bukharin: Is that amarok 2?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> WDC: add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main universe multiverse restricted
[20:42] <bukharin> WDC: yes. give me a sec.
[20:42] <WDC> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main
[20:42] <WDC> Is that it?
[20:42] <bukharin> damn, beat me to it...
[20:42] <blueop> hello?
[20:42] <bukharin> yeah, that's it
[20:42] <WDC> lol
[20:42] <WDC> thanks
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> WDC: add both to /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:43] <bukharin> WDC amarok-kde4 contains amarok 2, and it conflicts with amarok plain, so it wil replace it. just did it myself a couple of days ago.
[20:43] <blueop> there is no support for this in here
[20:43] <bukharin> WDC: mmm, i only added the kubuntu-members one
[20:43] <blueop> np, thanks anways
[20:43] <markus> ActionParsnip, i'll try once more, now from cmd line, thanx
[20:43] <WDC> haha! It worked!
[20:44] <WDC> Downloading. Thanks very much
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> WDC: simple websearching dude, you should try it
[20:44] <WDC> ActionParsnip: No I did
[20:44] <Adola> So, can anyone help me with setting up to show my second harddrive on Kubuntu?
[20:44] <WDC> ActionParsnip: But I kept finding development thigns, and not the actual release info
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> WDC: i websearched for: ubuntu intrepid install amarok2
[20:45] <WDC> ActionParsnip: Well thank you
[20:45] <WDC> adios
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> WDC: np man
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> how do people websearch these days? do they type huge strings now? Keep it simple and you win
[20:50] <Guest99372> hola alquien ha instalado smartcam???
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest99372: you're in ~kubuntu dude]
[20:51] <PSiL0> !es | Guest99372
[20:51] <Bradley_Fogle> Hi can someone help me out please?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Bradley_Fogle
[20:52] <markus> cmd line "k3b name.iso" just starts the graphical interface to K3b and from then on all  as b4, starts burning but stays at 0% on and on
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> markus: try it with no disk in the drive at first, see if it detects that
[20:56] <Brad777> My problem is that I have no wired internet for my computers I am on a laptop that has windows xp on it but my Kubuntu computer won't work with wireless and I do not have any way to hook it up to a wired connection. I did the steps to install rt73 and i am using a belkin wireless usb adapter. I was wondering if someone can help me fix it or if there is a way to install the latest kernel with...
[20:56] <Brad777> ...the built in support without using the package manager.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: i'd strongly suggest using a wired connection til you get on your feet
[21:00] <floyd> hi all
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: or you can use aptoncd
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !hi | floyd
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd | Brad777
[21:02] <markus> ActionParsnip, still does not work, i guess i'll just try some other program.
[21:02] <markus> hi floyd
[21:03] <floyd> =) can somebody say me how i should set ipv4. It displays as ipv6 permanently =(
[21:03] <floyd> ?
[21:03] <Brad777> Is there a way to get the package without using a package manager? I am using windows xp atm so I can't use aptitude to download anything.
[21:04] <Dr_willis> Brad777,  go to the fileserver and download it.. is one way.. but you may need to get other dependencies also.
[21:04] <floyd> hi markus
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: you can access the repos via http and download the debs manually
[21:04] <Dr_willis> Brad777,  like ActionParsnip  said.. its proberly best to go wired till you can get wireless tested
[21:06] <Brad777> I just recently moved and at the moment I have no way of using a wired connection. I had the wireless working for a few minutes then without thinking about it I updated kubuntu and it did something to mess up the drivers I guess because I no longer can detect the wireless network.
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: try: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: then reboot
[21:12] <Brad777> I rebooted and Wicd still says that no wireless network are found
[21:13] <Brad777> I have the blacklist set up correctly as in lsmod | grep rt73 shows only rt73 and usbcore
[21:15] <treats> gedit equivilant?
[21:15] <Adola> Ok, I've looked all over, I just can't grasp this concept.  Can someone PLEASE help me mount my 2nd harddrive?  (It's my Windows harddrive)
[21:15] <Dr_willis> kedit/kate
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> treats: kwrite, kate
[21:16] <Dr_willis>  Adola  you either use the ntfs-3g tools, and set it to mount on the fly, or moutn it automatically from the fstab file
[21:16] <Dr_willis> Adola,  example of mounting it one time.. 'sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda1  /media/WindowsStuff'
[21:17] <Dr_willis> Your 'sda1' may differ.. and the mountpoint directrory MUST MUST MUST exist beforhand.
[21:17] <treats> i am running kubuntu trying to switch to ubuntu, could i get some pointers
[21:17] <Adola> Ok, i've seen alot of "fstab" stuff.  But, it's scary, I needsomeone to guide me.
[21:17] <Dr_willis> read about fstab.. and learn whats going on.. backup your original...  its not scary its rather straight forward
[21:18] <Dr_willis> when in doubt read/look for examples... such as this one
[21:18] <Dr_willis>  /dev/sda2 /media/VistaStorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[21:18] <Dr_willis> that mounts my 2nd window drive to /media/VistaStorage
[21:18] <Dr_willis> note the format for the mountcommand line and fstab are SIMILER.. but not IDENTICAL
[21:19] <Dr_willis> sudo ntfs-3g  /dev/sda2 /media/VistaStorage -o defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8
[21:19] <Dr_willis> would be the same as that fstab line.
[21:20] <blocky> ActionParsnip: dunno if you're still here but I may have solved the issue
[21:20] <blocky> ActionParsnip: i went into Settings > NVidia X Server Settings and changed the refresh rate from 50hz to 60hz
[21:20] <blocky> ActionParsnip: im gonna reboot but if i don't return that was the solution
[21:22] <HighHo> Adola: If you still have problems use a gui to do it for you: "sudo apt-get install disk-manager" then run: sudo disk-manager
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> HighHo: if disk-manager is a gui app you need to run: kdesudo disk-manager
[21:24] <Dr_willis> Adola,  install and use the 'pastebinit' command to paste large texts to a web site we can all see
[21:24] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:24] <Dr_willis> pastebinit /etc/fstab
[21:24] <Dr_willis> paste url here. :)
[21:25] <cuznt> can i not get synaptic with 4.1?
[21:25] <HighHo> ActionParsnip:  no real diffrence when starting from a konsole window
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> HighHo: it sets up the environment correctly, sudo doesnt do that
[21:26] <cuznt> synaptic package manager that is
[21:26] <markus> Hi again, new developmnet with K3b. Started with option "DAO" instead of Auto and voila, Burn Baby Burn, 31% now
[21:26] <Brad777> I did iwconfig and it detects the usb adapter and everything seems to be working right but it won't detect wireless networks I google'd and I can't seem to find a solution anywhere
[21:27] <Dr_willis> I install synaptic all the time on Kubuntu
[21:27] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: does sudo iwlist scan            show access points
[21:29] <markus> i was ready to uninstall K3b, just shows once again one should not give up so easily
[21:29] <Brad777> no scan results :'(
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> markus: smooth move
[21:30] <Brad777> ActionParsnip: no scan results :'(
[21:30] <Dr_willis> markus,  spoken like a true-soonto-be-ex-windows-user!
[21:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[21:30] <cuznt> i am
[21:30] <markus> :-)
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: does it say it supports scanning?
[21:31] <cuznt> i took apart a 500 gig usb drive that the power kicked out on and am now running off of it,
[21:31] <cuznt> whats a win-dow?
[21:31] <Adola> Ok, I don't know what's wrong with pastebinit command.  But, it's not giving me...Anything.  No error.  No nothing.
[21:31] <Dr_willis> MicroSoft WinDOH!s
[21:32] <Brad777> ActionParsnip: it doesn't say the Interface does not support scannong. It just says wlan0    No scan reasults
[21:32] <Adola> So, I'll just use the website
[21:32] <Dr_willis> willis@cow:~/Desktop$ pastebinit  /etc/fstab
[21:32] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/f43c8d455
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: ok is the access point powered on?
[21:32] <Brad777> Yes my windows xp laptop is sitting next to the usb adapter and I can detect it
[21:32] <cuznt> cow?
[21:33] <markus> windows still on the hard drive, for some games only. Also at work windows but also there most of the time OpenOffice
[21:34] <cuznt> give it up markis
[21:34] <cuznt> scuse markus
[21:34] <cuznt> let it rest
[21:34] <cuznt> KILL IT!
[21:34] <cuznt> heh
[21:34] <cuznt> bill gates hates you
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> markus: tool for the job is what i say
[21:35] <markus> i have tried "only linux" at work but it was too hard, i'm sorry to say
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Bill Gates goes to the North Pole and  Hunts for Baby Pengins he can Stomp on... (not that hes found any yet)
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> even that stupid paperclip can't help
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Given the hard time ive had trying to go 'only windows' :)  I find linux too handy to not have.
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: what does lsusb output? one line will identify the adapter
[21:36] <markus> cuznt, i have a game i like a lot (Conquest: Frontier Wars) and still play now and then. Does not run on wine. That's why windows still stays
[21:37]  * cuznt only teases..
[21:37]  * cuznt is bitter that windowz put it too him hard
[21:37] <Brad777> ActionParsnip: Bus 003 Device 003  ID 050d:7050 Belkin Components F5D7050 ver 1000 WiFi
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: im pure linux as windows doesnt do anything my linux systems dont (chat and web browse) so i have zero need for it
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: ok thats great
[21:38]  * Dr_willis runs wine utorrent.exe
[21:38] <Dr_willis> :P
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: have you done this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)
[21:38] <Adola> Yes, sorry, I got Sorry, I got dissconnected
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: i dont sit on my pc much so my pc use is minimal
[21:39] <cuznt> i dig utorrent but ktorrent is pretty close i must say
[21:39] <Adola> Dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/f7c74d57a
[21:40] <markit> kde 4.1.96, any idea why I can login but if I want to logout, the screen switches to text mode with a full of strange characters on it?
[21:40] <Adola> Dr_willis: What should I go about doing please?
[21:41] <Adola> (Also, I used to beable to get to my otherharddrive through Dolphin.  But, now that's broken..[since the upgrade to 4.2RC1])
[21:42] <Dr_willis> its possible the reason you cant eget to it - is that IF windows crashes or otehr wise fails to properly 'unmount' the drive. Linux sees it  as beeing flagged 'dirty' by windows, and refuses to mountit - to keep it safe
[21:43] <Dr_willis> boot to windows.  and scan the drive.. properly shut down windows.. do NOT hibernate/suspend.. and see if linux can access it
[21:43] <Brad777> ActionParsnip: no I haven't
[21:43] <Dr_willis> as for the fstab entry Adola  just add a proper line to the end of that file.
[21:44] <Dr_willis> Adola,  the tool 'ntfs-config' might be able to automate it for you. sudo apt-get install ntfs-config, kdesudo ntfs-config
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: looks like you got something to do
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: you cann install build-essential from your install cd
[21:44] <Brad777> ActionParsnip:ok i guess I'll just let you know when I get done
[21:45] <Dr_willis> You can install a lot of stuff from the live cd.. :) if you got tha ram
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: seems pretty complete
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: i meant as a repo
[21:45] <cuznt> when they refer to the jaunty jaundice, is that the ubuntu version?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | cuznt
[21:46] <cuznt> ty
[21:46] <Adola> Dr_willis: "Add a name for mount point"
[21:46] <Adola> Is this anything specific?  Or can I just name it "windows"?
[21:46] <Brad777> ActionParsnip: does it matter that my usb adapter is a different version?
[21:46] <Dr_willis> whatever you want
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: i dont think so, as long as its the same chip it should be ok
[21:47] <Dr_willis> 'linux - your computer your way' :)
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> your computer - your way, as long as your hardwrae is supported in some way
[21:48] <Adola> Ahh, and of course, something went wrong
[21:48] <Adola> http://pastebin.com/m541106
[21:49] <Dr_willis> -> ount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[21:49] <Dr_willis> its possible the reason you cant eget to it - is that IF windows crashes or otehr wise fails to properly 'unmount' the drive. Linux sees it  as beeing flagged 'dirty' by windows, and refuses to mountit - to keep it safe
[21:49] <Dr_willis> as i said earluier. :)
[21:49] <Dr_willis> boot to windows.  and scan the drive.. properly shut down windows.. do NOT hibernate/suspend.. and see if linux can access it
[21:49] <Dr_willis> or be brave and 'force' the mount...
[21:50] <Dr_willis> and risk possible data loss.
[21:50] <Adola> Oh, I'm sorry, Ididn't know you were directing that to me.
[21:51] <Adola> Dr_willis: Do you think forcing it is a ok idea?
[21:51] <HighHo> Adola: As Dr_willis: says its probably from where windows was not shut down correctly, forcing is probably safe, but to be sure boot into windows and shut down fully
[21:52] <Adola> That's all?  He said scan the drive.
[21:52] <Adola> But, I'll try.  I'l BRB
[21:52] <Adola> :)  Thanks you guys
[21:52] <HighHo> Adola: Scan the drive if you still get that message after a proper shut down.
[21:53] <Dr_willis> Adola,  how imporntant is your data. :)
[21:53] <Dr_willis> Adola,  do NOT use hibernate/suspend under windows
[21:53] <Dr_willis> 'shut down fully'
[21:56] <markit> is it normal that kde 4.1.96 shutdown brings you again at login screen? or I have something misconfigured?
[21:57] <Admiral_Chicago> markit: it shouldn't
[21:58] <markit> Admiral_Chicago: any clue why it does? :) did not with previous version (4.1 etc.)
[21:58] <alexandergaeta> Hey, quick question: does Kubuntu come with the same applications (firefox, openoffice, etc) as Ubuntu?
[21:59] <HighHo> alexandergaeta: yes,
[21:59] <Admiral_Chicago> alexandergaeta: depends on the applications...Fx and OOo do but not the desktop environment
[21:59] <markus> alexandergaeta, same or corresponding applications
[22:00] <Admiral_Chicago> no idea markit
[22:00] <alexandergaeta> So what is the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? Does Kubuntu just have the KDE environment?
[22:00] <markus> y
[22:00] <Admiral_Chicago> more or less.
[22:00] <markit> also, recently if I enter nano editor (or vi), numeric keypad does not work anymore, but works in simple shell... any idea?
[22:01] <adam_> Ok, I rebooted into Windows, and shut down as normal.  Yet, ntfs-config still has the same error
[22:01] <HighHo> alexandergaeta: You can install anything missing through the repos if you find something missing
[22:02] <alexandergaeta> In kubuntu, can i do file management, application installation, etc. like I do in Ubuntu?
[22:03] <adam_> Ok, no worries, I just "forced" it and it works :)
[22:03]  * adam_ hopes nothings gone now :P
[22:04] <HighHo> Adola: Im sure it will be fine :)
[22:04] <Dr_willis> I hsd to force  One of my windows drives.. to get to the data to back it up.. but that drive iw making nasty CLICKING noises... :) so it may be due for the trash soon
[22:07] <markus> alexandergaeta, file mgment not too far from ubuntu, installation as in ubuntu if using cmd line, graphic installation tool a bit different
[22:07] <alexandergaeta> Thanks everyone!
[22:08] <usuario> ke tal
[22:08] <markus> r u unhappy with ubuntu, if not, no use to change ti kubuntu (my  humble opinion)
[22:09] <markus> ti --> to
[22:10] <Dr_willis> Use what you like. try it all out
[22:11] <Dr_willis> BRB
[22:11] <wakoo> hola ke tal
[22:13]  * fidji ne joue plus au Go
[22:16] <wakoo> alguien ke hable español en este canal
[22:16] <wakoo>  hahaha
[22:16] <cuznt> hey if you are not satisfied with your kubuntu... why... I will take it off your hands
[22:16] <cuznt> no charge
[22:18] <wakoo> esta mamada da asco
[22:19] <markus> i originally changed to kubuntu due to some details in file manager  (i liked konqueror and the idea of using one program for many tasks). Now using kubuntu basicly because I've used to it. No new desktos for me ;-)
[22:19] <Brad777> anyone know what it means when make says make: *** [all] Error 2
[22:19] <p_quarles> !es | wakoo
[22:19] <cuznt> !spanish
[22:19] <cuznt> slow to draw and wrong
[22:19] <tezcatlipoca> !de | wakoo
[22:19] <markus> bye all, and thanx for the help
[22:20] <wakoo> ok
[22:20] <wakoo> mmm
[22:20] <wakoo> aim mexican   hello
[22:26] <markit> I've created a new user, logged in, and I have the problem of the screen that is in text mode and with strange characters blinking.. any clue?
[22:26] <markit> (with old users it happens only logging off)
[22:27] <markit> worked fine before I upgraded to 4.1.96 from previous 4.1.something
[22:31] <dominique> Does anyone know where file associations are saved?
[22:32] <dr_Willis> if im useing dd to  try to rescue a messed up parittion should i dd /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 to a file to try to reover from tha tfile?
[22:32] <tezcatlipoca> hi guys. i apologize for my bad english. i have probs with sound on kubuntu 7.10... hardware is ok, "aplay" works, kmix is allright, but no sound. plz help
[22:34] <ghostcube> tezcatlipoca, komm in den deutschen channel
[22:34] <ghostcube> !de
[22:44] <PSiL0> !jp
[22:44] <setuid> How do I configure kdm? It's coming up in what looks like 640x480 with a huge black region around it, instead of 1920x1200
[22:44] <setuid> And when I log into KDE, it's stuck at 1024x768, until I go to System Settings and click on Display (changing nothing), then it pops to 1920x1200
[22:45] <setuid> Is there a way to make that resolution "stick"?
[22:47] <setuid> 301 muted users?
[22:48] <p_quarles> setuid: 301 *idling* users
[22:48] <Brad777> you could play around in ur xorg file
[22:48] <Brad777> i wouldn't recommend that though
[22:49] <setuid> my xorg.conf is about 7 lines long
[22:49] <Brad777> what is ur video card setuid
[22:49] <setuid> Default one... only has "Section InputDevice"
[22:49] <setuid> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro FX 570M (rev a1)
[22:49] <ghostcube> setuid, try nvidia-settings
[22:49] <ghostcube> save the xorg.conf to desktop if u enabled all u want
[22:49] <ghostcube> edit the xorg.conf u have the waythe settings do it
[22:50] <Brad777> setuid: do u have nvidia x server settings?
[22:50] <setuid> I"m not running the nvidia driver, don't want to do that at the moment
[22:50] <setuid> http://rafb.net/p/1oF0jb10.html
[22:50] <setuid> That's my entire config
[22:50] <Brad777> setuid: i was having the problem u are having and i fixed it using the nvidia driver that's the only thing i could figure out
[22:50] <setuid> It's whatever Intrepid put on the system when it installed
[22:51] <thenakaii> hi
[22:51] <setuid> Something tells me that the problem is the Intrepid installer never actually created a working xorg.conf
[22:52] <ghostcube> setuid, install nvidia-glx-180 should work fine for this card
[22:52] <ghostcube> then let nvidia-xconfig set an new xorg.conf
[22:53] <setuid> I'm not going to use the nvidia driver right now... so I'm going to use vesafb for the moment
[22:53] <setuid> I don't need the full-speed, proprietary driver
[22:58] <setuid> Seems like the only way to "fix" the resolution is to go into System Properties -> Display and then exit immediately.
[22:58] <setuid> Changes in the "Display" applet aren't persistent
[23:03] <Brad777> setuid: that's because the nvidia driver saves changes to the xorg file for u
[23:04] <setuid> And since I'm not going to use that, I don't care. I highly doubt that a user-level change to the resolution writes to a root-owned, read-only flle.
[23:05] <setuid> Definitely looks like a bug in the systemsettings implementation
[23:06] <setuid> Does the same exact thing inside a vmware guest
[23:06] <setuid> So it's not the nvidia driver or lack of that driver
[23:08] <Brad777> setuid: just telling you how I fixed it
[23:09] <setuid> That may work for you and the nvidia drivers may correct the discrepancy/bug in KDE, but the bug is consistent across two physically different platforms and drivers, so it is not hardware or driver-specific.
[23:22] <yertosaurus> trippy
[23:23] <yertosaurus> okay, what is the default browser of kubuntu?
[23:23] <GnuSense> konqueror
[23:23] <yertosaurus> The website is less then clear
[23:23] <yertosaurus> thank you
[23:23] <yertosaurus> what version?
[23:23] <GnuSense> Depends which version of kubuntu you are running.
[23:23] <yertosaurus> latest
[23:23] <yertosaurus> 8.10 iirc
[23:24] <GnuSense> Don't know, I'm running Hardy.
[23:24] <yertosaurus> eh... thanks anyways
[23:27] <artur__> How to really effectively remove a program? I could note that --purge isn't enough.
[23:28] <dominique> artur_: apt-get remove?
[23:29] <dominique> What you mean with not enough?
[23:35] <Brad777> yertosaurus: 4.1.3
[23:36] <artur__> dominique: when you see the 'man apt-get' there's a part that tell that to effectively remove you must use --purge, but I tried this to uninstall skype, but when i re-installed it, I didn't have to login. So everything was like before the uninstall. Cause before it i used to be automatically logged without typing password and username. It's a example.
[23:37] <dominique> artur_: Check your ~/ for files according to pidgin (locate)
[23:39] <artur__> So, you that if I uninstall the amarok (for example) after this I should check if there is some amarok folder in my /~/  ?   Right?
[23:39] <artur__> you mean*
[23:39] <dominique> artur_: yeah
[23:39] <artur__> ok! I'll try! Thnx!
[23:40] <dominique> artur_: But i'm not the linux god, so i could be wrong
[23:41] <setuid> You rang?
[23:41]  * setuid is the Linux god
[23:41]  * dominique says: God is dead.
[23:41] <setuid> If you believe he was ever alive, yes...
[23:42] <setuid> I don't subscribe to the bearded-man-in-the-clouds religions
[23:42] <dominique> No, it's just was Nietzsche said.
[23:42] <dominique> setuid: hehe, funny that they all forbid to make pictures of their gods (like bearded-men-in-the-clouds)
[23:44] <setuid> dominique, All part of  the cult^Wreligion
[23:44] <setuid> md5sum'ing 4.7M files is really a pain in the ass
[23:44] <setuid> # find . -type f | wc -l
[23:44] <setuid> 4707344
[23:45] <dominique> ? Why?
[23:45] <setuid> Anyone play with filelight yet?
[23:45] <setuid> dominique, I'm doing some heavy testing on my Drobo
[23:45] <dominique> Ah k :)
[23:45] <setuid> Put 2 3.5" (desktop drives and 2 2.5" (laptop) drives into it, filled it with about 680GB of data, and am going to pull a drive... but I want to checksum everything before, let the Drobo relevel all the data, then checksum after, and see if it "breaks" anything
[23:46] <setuid> If it doesn't, I'm going to put a 750G drive into the open slot, and see what happens after that
[23:46] <dominique> And wheres the problem?
[23:46] <setuid> I happen to have 2 of those faulty 1TB Seagate drives, so I want to be sure nothing goes wrong while I'm pulling them to RMA them
[23:46] <dominique> You don't have enough space for the hashes? xD
[23:47] <setuid> dominique, No problem yet... I just don't quite buy their claim that I can pull a drive while it's running, plugged into Linux, and it will just magically do the right thing with the data.
[23:47] <setuid> /dev/sdc1             925G  922G  3.2G 100% /usr/local/array
[23:47] <setuid> /dev/sdd1             8.0T  680G  7.4T   9% /mnt/external
[23:47] <setuid> Pushing lots of data around on my server here at home
[23:47] <setuid> Install filelight and play with it, it's pretty slick... here's a screenshot I took earlier today of it:
[23:48] <setuid> http://code.gnu-designs.com/filelight-sda.png
[23:48] <dominique> !filelight
[23:49] <dominique> What does it do?
[23:49] <dominique> Remember: I'm not the linux god :D
[23:50] <dominique> juhu...damn fuckin k-applications. Kate crashes all the times!
[23:51] <GnuSense> Must be using KDE4/Intrepid, kate is great on my Hardy KDE3 install.
[23:52] <GnuSense> Plenty of other broken applications, though.
[23:54] <markit> as soon as I login, screen becomes a mess. .xsession-errors has a line stating x-terminal-emulator: Fatal IO error: client killed. Any clue?
[23:56] <dominique> GnuSense: Yeah, i'm using kde4/intrepid... there a few other k-apps that have quite a lot problems (kftpgrabber, klipper, kmix...)
[23:57] <GnuSense> dominique: KDE4 is slow and buggy, the last time I checked, which is why I'm sticking with Hardy.  Hopefully by the next LTS version KDE4 will be up to snuff.
[23:59] <dominique> GnuSense: You're rgight with the slow and buggy, i hope everytime i turn on my computer that some update notifier wants to update something...