[00:02] yay! alpha3 is out... [00:04] charlie-tca: that's good :) [00:06] milos_: I've tried them on my GF6800GT, they worked but was buggy (lots of artifacts on te screen) [00:06] *the [00:08] I didn't filed a bug or investigated it, because I'm gonna switch to ATi any time soon anyway, thier OSS-drivers are almost stable now, I've heard .) [00:09] :) [00:12] Hagg1: I can't do almost anything [00:12] Hagg1: and I have a laptop [00:13] Hagg1: http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snimak1uw8.png [00:14] milos_: what happens if you try to refresh the window, or minimize and restore it? [00:16] milos_: my artifacts dissapeard by doing so, but the came back after a fiew seconds again [00:16] Hagg1: I can't start any application, because K menu is empty and refresh isn't helping [00:17] Hagg1: I start konsole with ALT+F2 and then launch every app from there [00:19] milos_: a good start might be the nvidia-linux-forum: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s&forumid=14 [00:19] Hagg1: thnx [00:19] hey hggdh, what did you mean by [00:19] Melik, pktcdvd seems to be a kernel module [00:19] hum. the module is not present anymore on 2.6.28-4 [00:28] hay all, i was wondering if anyone else got the Incomplete language support after installing jaunty? [00:42] Alpa3 (LiveCD, amd64) hangs during boot for me :( [00:42] Hagg1: right after you select an option? [00:43] Hagg1: this fixed the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/308410/comments/8 [00:43] Launchpad bug 308410 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-96 "Latest Xorg removes nvidia driver ... conflicting xserver-xorg-video-4" [Medium,Confirmed] [00:44] shadowhywind: no, I get the boot-menu (select english) and hit enter, then the progressbar goes for and back for some seconds and therefter it freeze [00:44] milos_: ok, that's good :) [00:45] Hagg1: i had a simmiler problem, i would get the select english, and then when i hit enter on the menu to either test/install/test for defects it would freeze, [00:45] shadowhywind: it freeze before the progressbar show a normal loading (increasing value) [00:45] by anychance are you using a cd-rw? [00:46] shadowhywind: yes, I am [00:47] just for curoisty, is it a sony? also do you have a normal cd you could write to? [00:47] shadowhywind: I can run the "Check CD for defects" and it is working until it is finished and does not find any errors either [00:47] because i used a sony cd-rw with my issue, when i burned it to a regular cd i had no issues [00:48] Hagg1: oh [00:49] shadowhywind: no, I boycott sony :) My CD-rw is a "Octron 700MB" [00:50] Hagg1: have you tried a acpi=off command ? [00:51] shadowhywind: no, I'm trying that now [00:52] Hagg1: there are times where that sometimes works on my laptop amd64 as well [00:53] shadowhywind: Ubuntu 8.10 is working just fine with acpi enabled on this hardware [00:54] so 9.04 should work with acpi enabled as well, if there isn't any new bugs [00:54] ah, well if that doesn't work I would say try reburning onto a regular cd and see if that works. Maybe the iso doesn't like cd-rw (which would be really werid and odd) [00:54] acpi=off didn't work.. Alfa3 still hangs (and my keyboard-leds starts flashing) [00:56] shadowhywind: yes, that would be really odd, 8.10 is installed on the failing hardware with the exact same cd-rw disc [00:59] Hagg1: hehe same here, after like the 10th install cd, i finally switched to cd-rw's and it worked for intrepid but not for jaunty [01:02] shadowhywind: hehe, yes, installing OSes is the only thig I use cd's for :) And it's muchh cheaper to use cd-rw for that purpouse [01:03] I will try Alpa3 in a VM now, to see if it works better [01:03] hehe nice [01:13] shadowhywind: no luch there either :( Alpa3 hangs in KVM-62 === nikrud is now known as nickrud [01:18] shadowhywind: here is a screendump: http://hagge.intercorner.net/dump/ubuntu-9.04-alpa3_in_kvm-62.png [01:19] Hagg1: so it actraully looks like it loads [01:21] shadowhywind: I don't really know... It shouldn't be a prompt like that during boot, not what I can remember at least [01:22] Hagg1: the onlything that i can think/say would be if you have an extra cd-r give that a try and see whats happen, worst case one less cd-r on the spindle [01:24] shadowhywind: I have no cd-r, only cd-rw (2 pcs) [01:25] Hagg1: oh... [01:49] shadowhywind: on my other KVM-host I got jaunty to boot :D (KVM-72) [01:49] and it goes damn fast on a RAM-drive :P [01:49] Hagg1: nice! [01:50] jaunty is very nice, and quick. my boot time has been cut in half [01:52] shadowhywind: I have nothing to compare to, because I only run the LiveCD in a VM, where the ISO is located on a tmpfs-partition [01:53] and there is not much hardware that can compare to ttmpfs [01:53] *tmpfs [01:53] true [01:57] shadowhywind: it is very handy to have a virtualmachine when testing livecds :) [01:59] after my first install attempt i wish i did (just glad i made backups of my partitions first) [02:00] hehe, ok [02:01] backups are good [02:44] my pidgin in jaunty just close when I am using [02:48] what kernel will ubuntu 9.04 be on when it's released? [02:48] Hey guys, as expected, after a fairly painless upgrade to jaunty, the binary nvidia drivers aren't installed. The instructions said to use the nv drivers for now. Stupid question... how do I actually install them now, it's been so long since I've had to change it lol [02:49] johnjohn101: at least 2.6.28 [02:49] * JediMaster seriously considers converting all his ext3 partitions over to ext4 now.. [02:49] JediMaster: It *is* possible, albeit painful, to continue using the nVidia drivers [02:50] I was considering installing 60GB of X-plane to play on my media center machine with it's 37" screen =) so nvidia binaries would work better [02:51] toresbe: for now, how do I go about changing it from the generic setup to nv drivers? [02:51] I don't think I can look at 800x600 on a widescreen 37" screen for much longer ;-) [02:51] JediMaster: Just change the "Driver" entry from "nvidia" to "nv" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:52] (do you know how to do that?) [02:52] well that's what I thought first of all, but it's overwritten the xorg.conf with generic config [02:52] "nv" is not the default driver for nvidia guys? [02:53] toresbe: you'd never guess but I used to configure and compile my own kernels years ago, ubuntu just made my lazy with it's uberness [02:53] x1250: would it automatically detect it? [02:54] JediMaster, it should. At least it works automagically with ati, so I guess it should too with nvidia. [02:54] it won't let me change the screen above 800x600 on a 37" widescreen [02:55] I actually can't remember what it should be lol, but it's a lot more than that [02:55] 1280x768 maybe? [02:56] there's no driver section at all in xorg.conf now [02:56] JediMaster, try checking out /var/log/Xorg.0.log for problems. It should be obvious in there what driver is using Xorg, also. [02:57] ta [02:58] vesa I believe [02:59] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [03:00] shall I just try the nvidia-glx-180 package? [03:00] JediMaster, add a line that reads: Driver "nv", in section Device (Device, not Screen), just under "Configured Video Device" [03:01] oh yeah, what's the xorg.conf line to re-enable ctrl-alt-backspace?> [03:01] got it, dontzap [03:01] JediMaster, yep, in Section "ServerFlags" [03:02] yeah, no serverflags section lol [03:03] JediMaster, if driver "nv" does not work, I would guess Xorg has problems detecting your monitor Horizsync and VertRefresh values. Try googling that if you continue to have problems. [03:03] didn't work with the nv driver [03:04] does not work, means? [03:04] sorry, sec [03:04] "No devices detected" [03:05] I'm not in a very good error reporting mood - that's my day job and it's 3am lol [03:05] JediMaster, http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-93b1e0b56f76546d61364f789045e9c745b6cfd4 [03:05] going to try the nvidia binary package quickly [03:07] JediMaster, I recall reading that it won't work unless you use IgnoreABI option, or something like that. [03:07] I could be wrong though, ati guy here :P [03:09] ta, will look it up [03:09] yes, it just popped up with that solution =) [03:09] use the -ignoreABI option to ignore this check [03:11] sweet, that's it, and it's the correct resolution too =) [03:11] with the nvidia-glx-180 driver [03:11] ok, great to know. [03:12] thanks for the help [03:13] np [03:14] hmmf, no /dev/dsp device now [03:14] audio definately works though, just jumped out of my skin as the speakers were on full when I logged in lol [03:15] lol [03:15] any idea why /dev/dsp doesn't exist? [03:18] mp3 playback Just Works in Jaunty alpha 3 [03:18] is that legal? [03:19] have the patents expired? [03:19] ..or is it just for the alpha builds, 'cause no one will sue over an alpha? [03:19] aac playback doesn't work though, and it doesn't let me install support [03:19] just said 'internal data flow error' [03:21] * JediMaster prefers to use vlc or mplayer which generally Just Works [03:22] JediMaster, no idea, I upgraded from intrepid, and I did install the codecs while in intrepid. [03:22] x1250: wrong person? [03:22] I'm on the alpha 3 LiveCD [03:22] JediMaster, yes! sorry [03:23] =) np [03:23] anyone tried to upgrade from ext3 to ext4 yet? [03:23] ..and that video file I have just segfaults it [03:23] with all the features like extends etc [03:24] JediMaster, hehe, there are some (un)lucky guys on ubuntuforums.org with data loss [03:24] I've got my hands full just confirming on jaunty all the bugs still in LTS and 8.10.. [03:24] JediMaster, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040199 [03:25] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oss-compat/+bug/302202 [03:25] Launchpad bug 302202 in oss-compat "[Jaunty] must reconfigure at each reboot, else /dev/dsp is missing" [Undecided,New] [03:25] yup, that's the one ubottu ;-) [03:27] x1250: ta, I guess it's not time yet to entrust my 1TB of data to ext4 [03:32] I have GeForce 7150M - but jaunty hardware gizmo isn't giving me a nvida choice [03:32] and nv dosn't work with my card either [03:33] where is the best place to get the latest iso? I just need to test software I am developing [03:33] is there any hope of getting and nvidia to work? [03:34] DBO: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [03:34] DBO: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/jaunty-desktop-i386.iso [03:35] thank you guys =) [03:35] i wonder what the diff is [03:35] CarlFK1: I just installed nvidia-glx-180 and added: 'Option "ignoreABI" "True"' to the serverflags section of xorg.conf and all works fine now [03:35] thats a great help [03:36] JediMaster: thanks. was hoping there was something like that [03:36] all appears to be working fine, the generic xorg config loads vesa *shudder* [03:37] when I try to use nv I get EE card not supported [03:37] the nvidia-glx-180 driver correctly found the 37" tv's res at 1360x768 [03:37] yeah, I got that too [03:38] I think I have the same graphics chipset [03:38] onboard card on the motherboard? [03:38] hp 6700 laptop [03:38] similar then [03:38] yeah, 7100 here [03:38] and the nv driver didn't find it either [03:41] lmao, only upgraded about 2 hours ago and there's already 37MB of updates, including a new kernel [03:42] argh, and just noticed more issues with static network interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces [03:42] it hasn't started up with eth0 up [03:43] yet I can ifup eth0 and it works [03:55] !schedule [03:55] A schedule of Jaunty Jackelope (9.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule === tritium_ is now known as tritium [04:02] JediMaster, [04:05] JediMaster: thanks - i got nvid again. [04:05] np, thank x1250 too, he helped [04:05] =) [04:06] JediMaster, how do i add the ignore ABI thing to my xorg [04:07] Melik: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177/+bug/308410 it's about 1/3 of the way down the page [04:07] Launchpad bug 308410 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-96 "Latest Xorg removes nvidia driver ... conflicting xserver-xorg-video-4" [Medium,Confirmed] [04:07] thanks =) [04:07] np [04:08] hmm, why is eth0 in networkmanager read only? [04:08] I can't change it at all, and I've wiped /etc/network/interfaces now so networkmanager can take over [04:09] Section "ServerFlags" [04:09] Option "ignoreABI" "True" [04:09] EndSection [04:09] thats what i copy paste in [04:09] ./etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:09] ? [04:09] yup, or just add the Option line if you already have the ServerFlags section [04:09] then what do i do after [04:10] that should be it if you've installed the nvidia binary driver already [04:10] the thing is [04:10] i have this really weird situation [04:11] erm.. i have nvidia 180.22 drivers [04:11] but when i go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers [04:11] it only shows the Nvidia 96 drivers [04:11] and the thing is i dont even have nvidia-glx-96 [04:12] i have a GeForce 6100 nForce 405, and its supported by the 180.22 :/ [04:13] heh, the hardware drivers doesn't even bring up the nvidia-glx-180 for me, says there's no proprietary drivers in use lol [04:13] check the xorg log file to see what's running [04:13] ok must run, it's 4am === ziroday` is now known as ziroday [04:21] raw1394 used to be in the 'disk' group. now it is in the root group? crw-rw---- 1 root root 171, 0 2009-01-16 20:09 /dev/raw1394 [04:29] yayyyyyyyy FINALLY, my nvidia drivers work :D [04:30] nvida for all! [04:31] Is there a way to install Amarok 1.4 on Jaunty?. I haven't seen it in the repo. [04:32] They shouldn't have dropped it as Amarok 2 in its current state is way worse than 1.4 [04:33] fnf1, take it from an old distro repo, it should work [04:34] x1250: I'll give it a shot, hope it doesn't have a bunch of older dependencies [04:36] fnf1, aah, yes, it probably has. I don't know if it will work, but try. [04:37] if dependencies names haven't changed their names, it should probably work. I guess :) [04:37] x1250: I'm not sure if this is the right place to look for, but I couldn't find amarok any where here http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amarok/ [04:38] the 1.4 version I mean [04:39] it might be in one of the kde* meta packages [04:40] hggdh: I have installed ubuntu 64 Alternative without any problem. Should I fill anything? [04:41] mikhmv, just look at the QA site, and add in anything you may have found [04:41] otherwise, thank you very much [04:41] this is a help we need every time we go for a release point [04:41] (alpha, beta, and final) [04:42] hggdh: thanks [04:42] mikhmv, thank YOU. We really appreciate the help [04:43] fnf1, its kind of tricky to get to the binary (deb) packages, but they are there: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok. Navigating is kind of confusing. [04:46] fnf1, better follow this link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/amarok [04:47] then click on "i386" for the binary package, and in the next page, click on the "version" link, you'll find the deb package after the last click [04:49] thanks, I'm downloading all packages [04:54] x1250: it's working, thanks a lot :-) [04:54] really? great! :D [04:57] x1250: I needed to install amarok, amarok-common and amarok-engines at the least to get it working. [04:58] but what remains is how to specify apt not to upgrade amarok, I haven't figured out how to do it with apt though, although aptitude can sustain a package from upgrading easily [04:58] hope Amarok 1.4 it will be added sooner rather than later :) [04:59] fnf1, take a look at section 3.10: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html [05:05] how do I format a partition in ext4 for a fresh install ? [05:05] hi [05:06] is true jj will use ext4? [05:06] how is it? [05:06] Volkodav, don't: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040199 [05:08] hmm [05:08] ext4 is really ext3 [05:08] x1250: the manual doesn't really help, I tried dselect but it doesn't provide a way to change a package's state (such as not to upgrade). That's not very important though, I'll wait till amarok 1.4 comes along. [05:08] ext3 is really just journalised ext2 [05:09] Volkodav: odd, ext4's been declared stable for a while. I have no problem using it. [05:09] I'll give it a shot though - I heard good things about performance [05:09] I will give it a shot too [05:09] I've been using ext4 since Intrepid, just upgraded to Jaunty this morning and I used ext4 for / as well [05:09] how did you format it ? [05:10] fnf1: what is good about ext4? [05:10] ari_stress nothing bad I assume neither [05:10] Volkodav: mkfs.ext4 [05:10] does it have any defragmenter tool? [05:11] usual parameters apply of course [05:11] ok [05:11] ari_stress: it was designed to be online-degramentable, but I haven't seen a tool to do it. [05:12] ari_stress: although you wouldn't have to concern about it unless the device has less than 5% free space [05:12] fnf: i know ext3 claims that it's fragmented proof, but i run torrent a lot, so it must be fragmented somehow, right? [05:13] ari_stress: no, if you tell the torrent client to allocate whole block since since the first packets, not a lot of them do it though [05:13] yeah [05:13] hmm [05:13] ari_stress: ext4 has some feature named lazy allocation that can help with fragmentation [05:14] can i do online upgrade from ext3 to ext4? [05:14] ari_stress: you can [05:14] wait a sec, I'll get the link for you [05:14] thanks fnf [05:15] i'll backup my /home first tonite and do the upgrade [05:15] ari_stress: http://buranen.info/?p=345&cpage=1 [05:15] ari_stress: having done the steps in that blog, you won't be able to read the new data using the ext3 driver [05:15] hmm seems like i need kernel 2.6.28 [05:16] really? [05:16] ari_stress: I don't remember exactly, but ext4 was declared stable in 2.6.27.8 or something [05:16] ari_stress: prior to that version, it was named ext4dev [05:17] you wouldn't want to upgrade to ext4 with kernels earlier than 2.6.28 though, the driver might not be very stable [05:18] rite. i guess i should wait a little longer, just to be safe [05:19] ext4 is compatible with ext3, but if one uses the new features of ext4, the files created using these features won't be readable using the ext3 driver, that's why it's not recommended to mount an ext4 partition using ext3 [05:22] ari_stress: don't worry about upgrading to ext4 though, there weren't any change in the driver for a long while, so it's quite safe to use ext4 in Intrepid's default kernel [05:22] make your choice ;^) [05:23] i'll do the upgrade tonite, better yet, i'll reformat /home with ext4 :) [05:23] thanks fnf [05:23] i'll run bonnie++ first for performance comparison [05:24] well, there are cases of some people getting 0 bytes files after crashes in EXT4. There is a bug report about that in here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781 [05:24] Launchpad bug 317781 in linux "Ext4 data loss" [High,Triaged] [05:24] ups [05:27] not tonite then :) [05:27] many thanks x12 [05:27] many thanks x1250 [05:27] ;) guess I was just having dumb luck [05:28] ari_stress, np, I saved your music collection :) [05:28] i wanted to try nouveau, but get "Package linux-nouveau-modules is not available, but is referred to by another package." [05:29] that anything easy to work around? [05:29] CarlFK, maybe the "another package" ? [05:29] will my existing grub boot new ext4 or I will need the newer grub that comes with jaunty ? [05:30] x1250: its a dep of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - [05:30] oh [05:31] CarlFK: please report back if you're to try it, the package says I need to install some DRM kernel modules, but I'm not sure if it works with custom kernels. [05:32] Volkodav: Jaunty's GRUB was patched with the new ext4 patches, it wouldn't work with older GRUBs [05:33] that's fine - I will override the existing then - it will boot my other stuff too [05:33] fnf: report what where? (currently figured I would wait for it to appear in the repo) [05:33] maybe this is why alpha3 is delayed? :O Speculation time! [05:35] CarlFK: as yes, it is not installable, sorry [05:36] CarlFK: module-assistant auto-install drm failed with my custom kernel [05:36] drm, what is drm? :^) [05:42] anybody tried to use 2 grubs in MBRs on sda and sdb ? [05:42] Volkodav: yep [05:43] fnf: thanks - I won't dig into this for a few days [05:43] how do you toggle between the 2 ? [05:43] chainload ? [05:43] CarlFK: I'm going to test nouveau for myself [05:44] Volkodav: why do you need one? are you trying to boot Windows? [05:44] no [05:44] so what's the situation? [05:45] I have my existing grub on sda booting 5 OS's and I am about to install jaunty on sdb so I figured I may as well install it to sdb's MBR [05:46] just to play safe - and then I can either use both or get rid of the one I do not need and have all in ome [05:46] makes sense ? [05:46] Volkodav: it may be better to copy the entries in older GRUB then make your computer boot to /dev/sdb directly [05:47] yeah but I intend to use ext4 and it will need the jaunty's patched grub [05:47] you mean "from old grub" [05:48] I was thinking of just overwriting with the new and then copy all from old [05:49] and then though what if I install another one instead ? [05:49] that'll work, the GRUB used by Jaunty isn't much different except the ext4 patches [05:49] is it still ugly plain console ? [05:50] Volkodav: yeah, it's GRUB 1 [05:51] so if I choose to install it to MBR on sdb I will need to change the sequence in BIOS ? [05:51] is't it about time to do some splash screen for it ? [05:54] Volkodav: no idea, you may experiment with grub2 in the repo, but I wasn't able to make a config file that runs [05:54] what failed ? [05:54] Volkodav: yeah, it should boot from the 2nd HDD instead [05:54] well - I'd rather have 2 grubs then [05:55] for the heck of it [05:55] Volkodav: try the Windows chainloader if you want [05:55] title Windbloze X-P [05:55] rootnoverify (hd0,0) [05:55] makeactive [05:55] chainloader +1 [05:56] I may as well get into bios at boot and get a choice what to boot [05:56] chainloader will work too [05:57] well - I am about to hit the sack - will do install and all tomorrow - see ya all guys laterrz [05:57] Volkodav: see ya [07:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/311716 [07:00] Launchpad bug 311716 in linux "The slider brightness Applet has value inverted after the last update (2.6.27-11)" [Medium,Fix committed] [07:00] hmm, the "fix" for that... entirely REMOVED my ability to change brightness. [07:00] Lovely. [07:00] Should I file a separate bug on that? [07:01] this, again? [07:01] It's the same issue I've mentioned before, yes. [07:02] bug in your hardware potentially [07:02] I suggest filing a bug but not insisting it's the userspace [07:03] might be hardware issue that needs a kernel space quirk [07:04] Was fine before the fix for that bug. [07:04] Now there's nothing at all in /sys/class/backlight. [07:04] Before, there was an acpi_video0 that worked just fine. [07:05] Here's how I interpret the changelog: "this method is buggy on some systems... so don't use it." [07:05] Okay... then what about the systems where it's NOT buggy? [07:05] =P [07:06] And now /proc/acpi/video/DGFX/LCD/brightness returns [07:07] Hold on while I boot to Ubuntu, so I can see what it was in the older kernel, which I rolled back to. [07:13] Old kernel gives [07:14] levels: 100 51 30 37 44 51 58 65 72 79 86 93 100 [07:14] current: 100 [07:14] Sure beats ! [07:21] DanaG: anyways, it's not an Ubuntu bug [07:21] it's a kernel thing [07:29] hmm. [07:30] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-January/004033.html [07:30] Looks like it IS an ubuntu thing. [07:31] Hmm, perhaps I really should file a bug report on it, then. [07:43] "Risks: as we are supressing ACPI brightness support we may suppress it where it is required" -- damn straight! [07:45] I commented that this did break my system... and nobody seemed to notice my comment. [07:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/311716 [07:46] Launchpad bug 311716 in linux "The slider brightness Applet has value inverted after the last update (2.6.27-11)" [Medium,Fix committed] [07:52] hm... one of the websites I frequently download videos from has moved to RTMP streaming [07:52] no more easy saved flv files from cache [07:53] Is it better to comment in that bug report about the breakage... or to file a new bug? [07:54] new bug, it clearly says that breakage will occur for broken hardware [07:54] your hardware is broken, or kernel does not support it [07:54] that is the bug [07:54] userland software is corrected [07:55] http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtmpdump wheeeeee [07:55] :P [07:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/313231 --- marked a duplicate... of the bug whose fix BROKE it? wtf? [07:58] Launchpad bug 313231 in linux "Backlight control doesn't work anymore on thinkpad" [Low,In progress] [07:58] er, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/314119 [07:58] Launchpad bug 314119 in linux "[intrepid] proposed 2.6.27-11.22 kernel breaks t61 lcd brightness (dup-of: 311716)" [High,In progress] [07:58] Launchpad bug 311716 in linux "The slider brightness Applet has value inverted after the last update (2.6.27-11)" [Medium,Fix committed] [07:58] DanaG: I tell you again and again, it's a problem with your hardware and that kernel [07:59] report it as such. [07:59] Lemme try it on another laptop, then. [07:59] If it's also broken there, where it's worked in all other versions, then it IS a regression. [07:59] I read the fix as this: "Don't use this method to control backlights, because it can be buggy." [07:59] Fix should be: don't use it where it's buggy. [07:59] What it seems to do now: NEVER use it. [08:00] But I will file a new bug on it, then. [08:00] be nice, people are trying to help [08:00] Most of those seem to be about Intrepid-Proposed. [08:00] bug #313231 has instructions to be followed and report back with more info [08:00] Launchpad bug 313231 in linux "Backlight control doesn't work anymore on thinkpad" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/313231 [08:01] * DanaG does not have a thinkpad, though. [08:02] What he said in that post: " @Sebastian -- I think this is very likely duplicate of bug #314119, which was fixed by (and now duplicate of) bug#311716. Could you test the kernels at the URL below:" [08:02] Launchpad bug 314119 in linux "[intrepid] proposed 2.6.27-11.22 kernel breaks t61 lcd brightness (dup-of: 311716)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314119 [08:02] Launchpad bug 311716 in linux "The slider brightness Applet has value inverted after the last update (2.6.27-11)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311716 [08:02] ... but for me, the "fixed by" is what broke it! [08:03] I guess my case is different enough to warrant a new bug report, then. [08:06] Yeah. anyway, I'll do that tomorrow. [08:06] Bedtime for me right now, though. [08:06] Sat Jan 17 00:06:15 PST 2009 [08:10] Ah, a more relevant bug. [08:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/315922 [08:10] Launchpad bug 315922 in linux "2.6.27-11 makes brightness not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:11]