| tkamppeter | Anyone of the TB or in some other format permitted to grant me upload rights for a package into main? I have upload rights for all printing packages into main, but it did not work for cupsddk and I would like to get it corrected. Thanks. | 00:05 |
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| cjwatson | tkamppeter: I suggest mailing technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com - they probably won't be around at this time | 00:11 |
| cjwatson | nobody else has the authority to do that | 00:11 |
| cjwatson | (I can confirm that you don't have upload access to cupsddk) | 00:12 |
| tkamppeter | cjwatson: , thanks. | 00:18 |
| benh | hoy | 03:46 |
| benh | is ports. down ? | 03:46 |
| benh | ie, temporary breakage or something more permanent ? | 03:46 |
| wgrant | benh: It wouldn't be anything permanent. I suspect it's just down and as it's a weekend nobody has noticed yet... | 03:55 |
| benh | ok | 03:55 |
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| SingAlong | Hi all! | 07:08 |
| SingAlong | I'm trying to compile a lib gives me Xrender.h errors. Says Xrender.h isnt found. But I verified the location I specified and the file is present. Has anyone got such errors? | 07:09 |
| sukiminna_ | seems like there is nobody here.. | 07:10 |
| sukiminna_ | :( | 07:10 |
| SingAlong | sukiminna: ? | 07:11 |
| SingAlong | yeah I think I'll go back to #ubuntu | 07:11 |
| RAOF | SingAlong: That doesn't sound like a question about the development of ubuntu, so is likely to be off-topic. | 07:11 |
| SingAlong | RAOF: sorry! | 07:12 |
| RAOF | SingAlong: Plus, the minimum useful information would include a pastebin link containing the full terminal output of whatever's not working. | 07:12 |
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| karthik_ | hey anyone please help how to create a new workspace | 09:41 |
| Mithrandir | karthik_: this channel is not for support, please ask in #ubuntu. | 09:42 |
| iulian | karthik_: Please join #ubuntu for user support. | 09:42 |
| karthik_ | Mithrandir: i asked as a programmers view | 09:43 |
| karthik_ | i want it to create using a c prog | 09:43 |
| iulian | karthik_: And still this is not the right channel to ask. | 09:44 |
| iulian | karthik_: See /topic. | 09:44 |
| karthik_ | iulian: ok could you please tell where to ask | 09:45 |
| iulian | karthik_: I've no idea, sorry. You can try google. | 09:46 |
| karthik_ | iulian: as workspace is related to development of desktop related thing.. are there channels for desktop development? | 09:47 |
| Mithrandir | karthik_: assuming you are on gnome, see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels ? | 09:47 |
| karthik_ | ok | 09:50 |
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| lool | Err "import common" /usr/share/pyshared/common.py in ubuntu-dev-tools | 10:37 |
| jpds | lool: I thought I moved that to /usr/share/ubuntu-dev-tools. | 10:38 |
| lool | jpds: I only updated yesterday | 10:40 |
| * lool updates | 10:40 | |
| lool | jpds: I created credentials with manage-credentials (which should IMO be lp-manage-credentials), but requestsync still breaks | 10:41 |
| jpds | lool: I just saw the bug report. | 10:41 |
| lool | jpds: It's not that bug | 10:42 |
| lool | The bug I filed is when I didn't have any credentials | 10:42 |
| lool | But it still doesn't work after creating them | 10:42 |
| lool | jpds: It seems I'm up-to-date WRT ubunt-dev-tools | 10:42 |
| lool | I have 0.55 which seems to be the newest | 10:42 |
| lool | jpds: Oh I think I'm really stupid | 10:43 |
| lool | lalala | 10:43 |
| lool | I should read man pages til the end | 10:44 |
| lool | jpds: Are you aware of the permissions being work readable by default? | 10:45 |
| jpds | lool: Oh, yeah. You need a token with 'ubuntu-dev-tools' as the name. And yes, that's fixed in Bazaar. | 10:46 |
| lool | jpds: Ok; thanks | 10:47 |
| jpds | lool: OK; improved error message to show what token name is needed. | 10:50 |
| lool | jpds: Thanks :) | 11:01 |
| DktrKranz | lool, intrepid-proposed upload of language-pack-gnome-{de,it}-base make packages conflicting with language-pack-gnome-{de,it} (see bug 317934). Is it fine for you to manually adjust depenencies on correct language-pack-gnome-{de,it} versions available in intrepid-updates? | 11:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 317934 in language-pack-gnome-it-base "Broken dependencies in language-pack-gnome-it-base" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317934 | 11:12 |
| lool | DktrKranz: Thanks a lot for the pointer | 11:19 |
| lool | slangasek, cjwatson: what's your preference for fixing this? Changing the deps for the -base SRUs, or also SRU-ing the non -base langpacks? | 11:20 |
| lool | I would rather do the former | 11:20 |
| lool | Updated bugs | 11:29 |
| jpds | lool: u-d-t 0.56 uploaded. | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | lool: adjust the deps for -base, I think | 12:01 |
| DktrKranz | lool, I just noticed language-pack-gnome-{de,it}-base have Conflicts/Replaces field which do use of (<< ${Source-Version}), so they need mangling too. | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | isn't that what lool basically already said? | 12:07 |
| cjwatson | the only reason I'm at all uncomfortable with mangling -base is that the mangling is going to be messy at the source level | 12:07 |
| cjwatson | although I suppose you could just hardcode the versions for now | 12:07 |
| ogra | hmm, is it me or has ports.u.c a problem ? | 12:34 |
| lool | jpds: Thanks; however I think you mixed the issue I reported on IRC with the one I reported in LP: I still think it's a bug to require lp credentials by default, at least it's inconsistent with having a --lp flag | 14:05 |
| lool | jpds: Albeit not my preference, I wouldn't mind a requirement to use LP for this tool | 14:05 |
| lool | Just not the situation where it's needed while it seems it's not ;) | 14:06 |
| jpds | lool: Hmm, no credentials found, and skip LP bug check? | 14:06 |
| lool | jpds: Yes | 14:08 |
| jpds | lool: OK, I can do that. | 14:08 |
| lool | Thanks a lot | 14:08 |
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| lool | Erf language-pack-gnome-$l-base Replaces itself; I guess it's due to some common template and simplifications | 14:12 |
| jpds | lool: Commited to bzr. | 14:30 |
| fbond | Hi. NetworkManager failed to add a route to the gateway and a default route. I'm at a hotel. How can I quickly grab enough info for someone to debug (I'll upload to launchpad)? | 14:41 |
| fbond | (Windows machines work correctly.) | 14:41 |
| fbond | (NM reported the gateway correctly when I clicked "Connection Information".) | 14:42 |
| directhex | fbond, i've occasionally had strangely windows-only wifi. what driver are you using? | 14:53 |
| fbond | directhex: b43. It works after I added the routes correctly. | 14:58 |
| fbond | directhex: Although the captive portal seemed to be a little confused by me. | 14:58 |
| lool | cjwatson, slangasek: Pushed -it and -de base langpacks again (intrepid2); I've test installed these in a new intrepid virtual machine from my ppa (after reproducing the installation issue with -proposed) | 16:05 |
| lool | (and these are in unapproved) | 16:07 |
| ramvi | How do I customize the UNR iso?There's no casper directory like here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 17:26 |
| spod- | hi does anybody know if there is a gdb package with thread debugging enabled? | 17:40 |
| spod- | or do i have to compile it myself? | 17:41 |
| hyperair | spod-: http://pastebin.com/d103e4f97 <-- see, gdb has threading support by default | 18:14 |
| i-pink | hi i have a problem in the time applet (gnome) | 20:02 |
| i-pink | i think is bug | 20:03 |
| i-pink | look a this screensot http://www1.speedyshare.com/data/488896368/14740217/4014211/Screenshot-1.png | 20:04 |
| cjwatson | please use the bug tracking system: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - bug reports on IRC are usually lost | 20:06 |
| i-pink | how to that? | 20:07 |
| i-pink | you can help me with this? | 20:08 |
| cjwatson | no | 20:08 |
| cjwatson | this is a development channel; please go elsewhere for support, e.g. #ubuntu | 20:08 |
| i-pink | ok :S | 20:08 |
| cjwatson | lool: language-pack-gnome-{de,it}-base accepted, thanks | 20:09 |
| i-pink | is for the development | 20:09 |
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| tvakah | is there any particular reason that ubuntu's shipping php with magic quotes on by default? | 21:56 |
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| ScottK | tvakah: I'd ask in #ubuntu-server | 22:19 |
| tvakah | ScottK: ehh I see there's been a bug since march about it, and it's still not been addressed in jaunty, oh well | 22:19 |
| ScottK | tvakah: I'm just saying you're more likely to get an answer there. | 22:20 |
| * ScottK has no idea about php. | 22:20 | |
| * calc still looking for bugs not already fixed to put on his pet bugs list, heh | 22:23 | |
| calc | lots of bugs fixed for 3.0 :) | 22:23 |
| savvas | tvakah: they're off by default I think | 22:23 |
| savvas | http://us.php.net/manual/en/security.magicquotes.php | 22:23 |
| tvakah | savvas: negative, I just got bit by it, spent many hours trying to find out why my code wasn't working until I finally went "d'oh" | 22:24 |
| tvakah | latest php5 from jaunty | 22:24 |
| tvakah | freshly reinstalled due to doing the jaunty upgrade ( I reintalled from scratch ) | 22:24 |
| tvakah | which is why it bit me since I'd turned them off long ago in intrepid | 22:24 |
| savvas | what's the bug report number? | 22:25 |
| savvas | I think someone should report this to the ubuntu-hardened team | 22:27 |
| savvas | just found a discussion about it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2008-September/000416.html | 22:27 |
| savvas | tvakah: what's the bug report number? | 22:31 |
| tvakah | savvas: #204479 | 22:34 |
| tvakah | it's a "wishlist" importance for some reason | 22:34 |
| savvas | bug #204479 | 22:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 204479 in php5 "PHP should be shipped with magic_quotes_gpc = Off in php.ini" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204479 | 22:36 |
| savvas | the patch comes directly from debian | 22:38 |
| savvas | debian/patches/029-php.ini_paranoid.patch | 22:39 |
| savvas | tvakah: I'll try report this to debian first, we'll see if they'll fix it :) | 22:41 |
| tvakah | savvas: heh you're saying a patch called "paranoid" turns it _on_? | 22:42 |
| tvakah | seems a tad messed up | 22:42 |
| savvas | yep | 22:42 |
| savvas | tvakah: hold a sec, it's a bit messy with all those patches, let me read it once more :) | 22:50 |
| savvas | tvakah: I can't do this, the package is just too big for my knowledge :( | 23:05 |
| tvakah | ahh, well at this rate may as well wait for php6 then since the "feature" is finally being put down | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | I've linked the PHP bug to the corresponding Debian bug | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | "Although I agree that magic_quotes_* suck (and IMHO they should not even | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | exist) I don't know how good it will make (besides most likely breaking lots | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | of poorly designed scripts) as long as upstream provide a php.ini with _gpg = | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | on. | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | " | 23:06 |
| tvakah | cjwatson: actually most php projects of size have automatic checks to disable magic quotes if the server has them on | 23:07 |
| cjwatson | I know nothing about PHP and want to know less | 23:07 |
| savvas | tvakah: actually php 5.3.0 :) | 23:07 |
| cjwatson | just quoting the Debian bug | 23:07 |
| tvakah | it more affects individual developers such as myself who start a simple standalone script assuming a sane setup ;) | 23:07 |
| savvas | they'll deprecate it in that version as well | 23:08 |
| cjwatson | actually, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=512037 has more helpful discussion | 23:08 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 512037 in php5-cgi "php5-cgi: magic_quotes_gpc = On" [Important,Open] | 23:08 |
| savvas | so that's why I couldn't find it :P | 23:10 |
| cjwatson | anyway, looks like the reason Debian and Ubuntu both ship it that way is (ultimately) that: that's the upstream default too; some of the Debian maintainers are reluctant to change it right before the release of Lenny; and Ubuntu is just following along here | 23:11 |
| tvakah | *nod* just got done reading that too, ahh well, not a world stopping thing by far, just caused a raised eyebrow here and a bit of face+palming ;) | 23:12 |
| cjwatson | PHP isn't something we put a lot of direct maintenance effort into beyond necessary adjustments for Ubuntu's structure and other related packages, I think | 23:12 |
| cjwatson | certainly it seems extremely probable that both Debian and Ubuntu would follow the upstream change in php6 | 23:13 |
| tvakah | heh fortunately there's no choice in v6, they're finally axing the bugger | 23:14 |
| savvas | hm.. cjwatson's right, php.ini-recommended is the one that has magic_quotes "off" heh | 23:14 |
| tvakah | see it's this thing where by it causes all incoming strings ( like post, get , and cookie variables ) to have _al_ quotes have a literal "\" prepended so as to make them escaped for easy use inside say a sql insert statement | 23:15 |
| tvakah | that's what's magic about it, it lets lesser programmers write sql statements... with disasterous magic sideeffects | 23:16 |
| cjwatson | oh, yeah, I've heard enough about it to know it's entirely braindead | 23:16 |
| cjwatson | classic case of why it's important to have clearly defined quoting rules that you violate at your peril | 23:16 |
| tvakah | and if you don't work in php every day and just incidentally try to write a php script to "Get something done", you'll end up not noticing it at first until it bites you ;) | 23:16 |
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| directhex | when i see NCommander doing things, i can't help but think of the electric six song "dance commander" | 23:25 |
| NCommander | Get up, get up, get up AND DANCE! | 23:26 |
| LaserJock | anybody happen to know what the difference between gitpkg and git-buildpackage is? | 23:29 |
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