[00:05] Anyone of the TB or in some other format permitted to grant me upload rights for a package into main? I have upload rights for all printing packages into main, but it did not work for cupsddk and I would like to get it corrected. Thanks. [00:11] tkamppeter: I suggest mailing technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com - they probably won't be around at this time [00:11] nobody else has the authority to do that [00:12] (I can confirm that you don't have upload access to cupsddk) [00:18] cjwatson: , thanks. [03:46] hoy [03:46] is ports. down ? [03:46] ie, temporary breakage or something more permanent ? [03:55] benh: It wouldn't be anything permanent. I suspect it's just down and as it's a weekend nobody has noticed yet... [03:55] ok === tritium_ is now known as tritium === ziroday` is now known as ziroday [07:08] Hi all! [07:09] I'm trying to compile a lib gives me Xrender.h errors. Says Xrender.h isnt found. But I verified the location I specified and the file is present. Has anyone got such errors? [07:10] seems like there is nobody here.. [07:10] :( [07:11] sukiminna: ? [07:11] yeah I think I'll go back to #ubuntu [07:11] SingAlong: That doesn't sound like a question about the development of ubuntu, so is likely to be off-topic. [07:12] RAOF: sorry! [07:12] SingAlong: Plus, the minimum useful information would include a pastebin link containing the full terminal output of whatever's not working. === svaksha is now known as svaksham [09:41] hey anyone please help how to create a new workspace [09:42] karthik_: this channel is not for support, please ask in #ubuntu. [09:42] karthik_: Please join #ubuntu for user support. [09:43] Mithrandir: i asked as a programmers view [09:43] i want it to create using a c prog [09:44] karthik_: And still this is not the right channel to ask. [09:44] karthik_: See /topic. [09:45] iulian: ok could you please tell where to ask [09:46] karthik_: I've no idea, sorry. You can try google. [09:47] iulian: as workspace is related to development of desktop related thing.. are there channels for desktop development? [09:47] karthik_: assuming you are on gnome, see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels ? [09:50] ok === asac_ is now known as asac [10:37] Err "import common" /usr/share/pyshared/common.py in ubuntu-dev-tools [10:38] lool: I thought I moved that to /usr/share/ubuntu-dev-tools. [10:40] jpds: I only updated yesterday [10:40] * lool updates [10:41] jpds: I created credentials with manage-credentials (which should IMO be lp-manage-credentials), but requestsync still breaks [10:41] lool: I just saw the bug report. [10:42] jpds: It's not that bug [10:42] The bug I filed is when I didn't have any credentials [10:42] But it still doesn't work after creating them [10:42] jpds: It seems I'm up-to-date WRT ubunt-dev-tools [10:42] I have 0.55 which seems to be the newest [10:43] jpds: Oh I think I'm really stupid [10:43] lalala [10:44] I should read man pages til the end [10:45] jpds: Are you aware of the permissions being work readable by default? [10:46] lool: Oh, yeah. You need a token with 'ubuntu-dev-tools' as the name. And yes, that's fixed in Bazaar. [10:47] jpds: Ok; thanks [10:50] lool: OK; improved error message to show what token name is needed. [11:01] jpds: Thanks :) [11:12] lool, intrepid-proposed upload of language-pack-gnome-{de,it}-base make packages conflicting with language-pack-gnome-{de,it} (see bug 317934). Is it fine for you to manually adjust depenencies on correct language-pack-gnome-{de,it} versions available in intrepid-updates? [11:12] Launchpad bug 317934 in language-pack-gnome-it-base "Broken dependencies in language-pack-gnome-it-base" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317934 [11:19] DktrKranz: Thanks a lot for the pointer [11:20] slangasek, cjwatson: what's your preference for fixing this? Changing the deps for the -base SRUs, or also SRU-ing the non -base langpacks? [11:20] I would rather do the former [11:29] Updated bugs [11:42] lool: u-d-t 0.56 uploaded. [12:01] lool: adjust the deps for -base, I think [12:05] lool, I just noticed language-pack-gnome-{de,it}-base have Conflicts/Replaces field which do use of (<< ${Source-Version}), so they need mangling too. [12:07] isn't that what lool basically already said? [12:07] the only reason I'm at all uncomfortable with mangling -base is that the mangling is going to be messy at the source level [12:07] although I suppose you could just hardcode the versions for now [12:34] hmm, is it me or has ports.u.c a problem ? [14:05] jpds: Thanks; however I think you mixed the issue I reported on IRC with the one I reported in LP: I still think it's a bug to require lp credentials by default, at least it's inconsistent with having a --lp flag [14:05] jpds: Albeit not my preference, I wouldn't mind a requirement to use LP for this tool [14:06] Just not the situation where it's needed while it seems it's not ;) [14:06] lool: Hmm, no credentials found, and skip LP bug check? [14:08] jpds: Yes [14:08] lool: OK, I can do that. [14:08] Thanks a lot === ivoks__ is now known as ivoks [14:12] Erf language-pack-gnome-$l-base Replaces itself; I guess it's due to some common template and simplifications [14:30] lool: Commited to bzr. [14:41] Hi. NetworkManager failed to add a route to the gateway and a default route. I'm at a hotel. How can I quickly grab enough info for someone to debug (I'll upload to launchpad)? [14:41] (Windows machines work correctly.) [14:42] (NM reported the gateway correctly when I clicked "Connection Information".) [14:53] fbond, i've occasionally had strangely windows-only wifi. what driver are you using? [14:58] directhex: b43. It works after I added the routes correctly. [14:58] directhex: Although the captive portal seemed to be a little confused by me. [16:05] cjwatson, slangasek: Pushed -it and -de base langpacks again (intrepid2); I've test installed these in a new intrepid virtual machine from my ppa (after reproducing the installation issue with -proposed) [16:07] (and these are in unapproved) [17:26] How do I customize the UNR iso?There's no casper directory like here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization [17:40] hi does anybody know if there is a gdb package with thread debugging enabled? [17:41] or do i have to compile it myself? [18:14] spod-: http://pastebin.com/d103e4f97 <-- see, gdb has threading support by default [20:02] hi i have a problem in the time applet (gnome) [20:03] i think is bug [20:04] look a this screensot http://www1.speedyshare.com/data/488896368/14740217/4014211/Screenshot-1.png [20:06] please use the bug tracking system: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - bug reports on IRC are usually lost [20:07] how to that? [20:08] you can help me with this? [20:08] no [20:08] this is a development channel; please go elsewhere for support, e.g. #ubuntu [20:08] ok :S [20:09] lool: language-pack-gnome-{de,it}-base accepted, thanks [20:09] is for the development === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [21:56] is there any particular reason that ubuntu's shipping php with magic quotes on by default? === det is now known as [LCC]det[CA] === [LCC]det[CA] is now known as [RoX]Tobi === [RoX]Tobi is now known as SJ === SJ is now known as det [22:19] tvakah: I'd ask in #ubuntu-server [22:19] ScottK: ehh I see there's been a bug since march about it, and it's still not been addressed in jaunty, oh well [22:20] tvakah: I'm just saying you're more likely to get an answer there. [22:20] * ScottK has no idea about php. [22:23] * calc still looking for bugs not already fixed to put on his pet bugs list, heh [22:23] lots of bugs fixed for 3.0 :) [22:23] tvakah: they're off by default I think [22:23] http://us.php.net/manual/en/security.magicquotes.php [22:24] savvas: negative, I just got bit by it, spent many hours trying to find out why my code wasn't working until I finally went "d'oh" [22:24] latest php5 from jaunty [22:24] freshly reinstalled due to doing the jaunty upgrade ( I reintalled from scratch ) [22:24] which is why it bit me since I'd turned them off long ago in intrepid [22:25] what's the bug report number? [22:27] I think someone should report this to the ubuntu-hardened team [22:27] just found a discussion about it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2008-September/000416.html [22:31] tvakah: what's the bug report number? [22:34] savvas: #204479 [22:34] it's a "wishlist" importance for some reason [22:35] bug #204479 [22:36] Launchpad bug 204479 in php5 "PHP should be shipped with magic_quotes_gpc = Off in php.ini" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204479 [22:38] the patch comes directly from debian [22:39] debian/patches/029-php.ini_paranoid.patch [22:41] tvakah: I'll try report this to debian first, we'll see if they'll fix it :) [22:42] savvas: heh you're saying a patch called "paranoid" turns it _on_? [22:42] seems a tad messed up [22:42] yep [22:50] tvakah: hold a sec, it's a bit messy with all those patches, let me read it once more :) [23:05] tvakah: I can't do this, the package is just too big for my knowledge :( [23:06] ahh, well at this rate may as well wait for php6 then since the "feature" is finally being put down [23:06] I've linked the PHP bug to the corresponding Debian bug [23:06] "Although I agree that magic_quotes_* suck (and IMHO they should not even [23:06] exist) I don't know how good it will make (besides most likely breaking lots [23:06] of poorly designed scripts) as long as upstream provide a php.ini with _gpg = [23:06] on. [23:06] " [23:07] cjwatson: actually most php projects of size have automatic checks to disable magic quotes if the server has them on [23:07] I know nothing about PHP and want to know less [23:07] tvakah: actually php 5.3.0 :) [23:07] just quoting the Debian bug [23:07] it more affects individual developers such as myself who start a simple standalone script assuming a sane setup ;) [23:08] they'll deprecate it in that version as well [23:08] actually, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=512037 has more helpful discussion [23:08] Debian bug 512037 in php5-cgi "php5-cgi: magic_quotes_gpc = On" [Important,Open] [23:10] so that's why I couldn't find it :P [23:11] anyway, looks like the reason Debian and Ubuntu both ship it that way is (ultimately) that: that's the upstream default too; some of the Debian maintainers are reluctant to change it right before the release of Lenny; and Ubuntu is just following along here [23:12] *nod* just got done reading that too, ahh well, not a world stopping thing by far, just caused a raised eyebrow here and a bit of face+palming ;) [23:12] PHP isn't something we put a lot of direct maintenance effort into beyond necessary adjustments for Ubuntu's structure and other related packages, I think [23:13] certainly it seems extremely probable that both Debian and Ubuntu would follow the upstream change in php6 [23:14] heh fortunately there's no choice in v6, they're finally axing the bugger [23:14] hm.. cjwatson's right, php.ini-recommended is the one that has magic_quotes "off" heh [23:15] see it's this thing where by it causes all incoming strings ( like post, get , and cookie variables ) to have _al_ quotes have a literal "\" prepended so as to make them escaped for easy use inside say a sql insert statement [23:16] that's what's magic about it, it lets lesser programmers write sql statements... with disasterous magic sideeffects [23:16] oh, yeah, I've heard enough about it to know it's entirely braindead [23:16] classic case of why it's important to have clearly defined quoting rules that you violate at your peril [23:16] and if you don't work in php every day and just incidentally try to write a php script to "Get something done", you'll end up not noticing it at first until it bites you ;) === NCommander is now known as mcasadevall === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [23:25] when i see NCommander doing things, i can't help but think of the electric six song "dance commander" [23:26] Get up, get up, get up AND DANCE! [23:29] anybody happen to know what the difference between gitpkg and git-buildpackage is?