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LaserJockanybody know of a ssh-add frontend for KDE?01:13
jjesse-dell9wow 200 channels on satelilite tv and nothing to watch01:16
claydohjjesse-dell9: new survivorman is it for me, else nada to watch :(01:17
LaserJockwow, 20001:17
* claydoh has about that on cable01:17
LaserJockI just got my DTV converter thingy and I have like 3 new channels, I think I'm up to ~7 :-)01:18
jjesse-dell9i havent received my convertor thingy coupon yet01:18
jjesse-dell9probablly should01:18
* claydoh just needs showtime, discovery, animal planet and maybe one or 2 more01:18
LaserJockjjesse-dell9: did you sign up for it?01:18
jjesse-dell9too lazy01:19
LaserJockit takes quite a while to get them01:19
LaserJockit's also kinda hard to find cheap converters01:19
LaserJockI got mine from Tiger Direct, $0.01 + $7.99 shipping :-)01:20
claydohwalmart only has 49 dollar ones, the 'free' ones are getting scarce01:20
* claydoh has his coupin expiring in a few weeks01:20
LaserJockmine is ok but the audio has like a background buzz that you can hear when the TV is turned down01:21
claydohbefore the coupons were out they were 20 buck01:21
* claydoh does not much care for quassel yet :(01:22
LaserJockI don't either, but I haven't tried it much01:26
LaserJockI went from konversation to irssi, i tried kvirc and didn't like it either01:27
claydohI am making a vain attempt to be as qt4/kde4 as possible, just to see01:32
claydohtho I will be installing kmymoney2 before long,01:33
claydohand already have miro running01:33
ScottK-desktopclaydoh: The upstream devs have been very open to suggestions from us.01:52
* LaserJock goes to give it another go01:54
LaserJockI have yet to get through the configuration01:54
ScottK-desktopvorian: Do we still need to do Universe plasmoid rebuilds again?01:55
vorianScottK-desktop: yep01:56
voriani was just getting ready to do that01:56
ScottK-desktopOK.  Great.01:56
ScottK-desktopI'll be here to help out in a bit.01:57
ScottK-desktopI've still got all the ones I did last time on my hard drive.01:57
voriani don't :(01:57
vorianScottK-desktop: can you tell me which ones you have?01:59
ScottK-desktopvorian: Not right now.  $ELDEST_CHILD has posession of my laptop (It's got the only copy of XP we own and she's doing iTunes on her iPod Touch).02:00
ScottK-desktopI should be able to retrieve it in ~20 minutes or so.02:00
vorianwhen you are ready just shout02:00
ScottK-desktopWill do.02:00
LaserJockScottK-desktop: this quassel thing is pretty non-intuitive. Why is there a huge logo thing and like 2 lines of chat at the top?02:01
claydohScottK-desktop: same here, it is mostly just confusing to saet up as a standalone client still02:01
neversfeldeScottK-desktop: do we need a quassel guide for kubuntu docs?02:02
claydohneversfelde: I am checking it out just for that purlose (hopefully)02:03
claydohumm purpose02:03
LaserJockI see a nick list thing, but no nicks in it02:03
LaserJockI can't figure out how to set what channels to join02:03
claydohbut am still confused by the setup and options, and very little documentation anywhere02:04
neversfeldeclaydoh: I wrote a german one02:04
neversfeldeprobably I can find some translators02:04
LaserJockit took me a while to figure out how to connect to the server (I just started clicking on things)02:04
claydohwell I can look at it to get the rough idea02:04
claydohLaserJock: lol thats how I got in :)02:05
vorianmy screen keeps freezing02:05
* Hobbsee puts it in front of the heater02:05
* JontheEchidna was playing volleyball with some friends at the gym02:08
* Hobbsee picks JontheEchidna up, and serves him over the net02:08
* claydoh hugs his laptop, its -1F/-18C here in maine, and he is feeling drafts :(02:08
Hobbseeimpromptu volleyball game in #kubuntu-devel?02:09
* vorian spikes it02:09
JontheEchidnaclaydoh: I heard it got down to -40 in maine a few days ago02:09
JontheEchidna-40 C and F :P02:09
neversfeldeclaydoh: if you need help for documentation, call me. My english is not very good, but I think I can translate it and you can guess the meaning :)02:10
claydohJontheEchidna: yeah, waaay up north, but here in Bangor *only* -2302:12
JontheEchidnanear Concord we got -17F02:12
claydohneversfelde: cool, thanks! my german is pretty nonexistent, but i will see how I can do, good that there are graphics to go with it, which helps alot02:12
ScottK-desktopPlease everyone take notes so we can get stuff fixed/documented.02:13
* ScottK-desktop points Sput about 10 - 15 minutes ago ....02:13
Sputyay :)02:14
LaserJockthis thing is too .... KDE02:14
ScottKvorian: http://pastebin.com/f5c800005 (I have seized controlof the laptop).02:14
SputI think the welcome screen will help with that first-time-users stuff :)02:14
* Sput pokes seele about a mockup/suggestions how that could look like again02:14
neversfeldeclaydoh: k, I will ask if someone from kubuntu-de.org can translate this document.02:14
ScottKActually $ELDEST_CHILD announced "I'm done, thanks and handed it back with 5% battery.02:14
vorianScottK: ok (i already did kbstate)02:14
ScottKvorian: OK.  I won't do it again, again.02:15
ScottKFirst I have to push $YOUNGEST_CHILD into bed.02:15
LaserJockhow do I change what channels are joined at startup?02:15
Sputah, also I'm currently moving all config files to the XDG location (in ~/.config I guess), and make sure quassel won't need a $HOME anymore by providing a --configdir switch02:15
claydohneversfelde: thanks! I will focus mastly on the standalone version, and not the 'core' and 'client' parts probably02:15
neversfeldeLaserJock: quassel should remember02:15
ryanakcaLaserJock: In irssi?02:16
LaserJockcan I tell it to not do that?02:16
ryanakcanevermind :)02:16
SputLaserJock: start it with --norestore02:16
LaserJockryanakca: no, I know how to do that02:16
Sput(or -n)02:16
LaserJockSput: that's rather unfortunate02:16
neversfeldeclaydoh: I should have a look at this, currently using client - core02:16
LaserJockI don't want my IRC client to remember what channels I was in, I want to tell which ones to join02:17
claydohneversfelde: yes, we need something to assist us 'normal' users in setting this up :)02:17
neversfeldeclaydoh: where are you writing the documentation?02:18
ryanakcaCould someone provide me with some inspiration as to the source of my defective Jaunty (Kubuntu, current daily, alternative, i386) CD? The md5sums of the downloaded image and the server image match, and the md5sum of the local image and the burned image match according to k3b. I've tried burning it three times across two CDs, but it fails every time I put it through verify CD on its boot menu. Any ideas as to the source of the problem?02:18
Sputnote: we are still working on streamlining the UI02:18
Sputin particular the welcome experience02:18
claydohneversfelde: nowhere yet, just decided to look at it and maybe try out a wiki page02:18
LaserJockSput: sure, just trying to give some feedback02:19
Sputsure :)02:19
Sputalso, our wiki has grown the past couple days: http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/wiki/quassel-irc02:19
neversfeldeclaydoh: if you try out the wiki page, tell me02:19
neversfeldeSput: I#d like to help with documentation, probably we can port http://wiki.kubuntu-de.org/Kubuntu_benutzen/Internet/Quassel to a more general version?02:21
claydohneversfelde: google translator is terrible :)02:21
neversfeldeas I told before, my english is not so ggod02:22
neversfeldeclaydoh: I could have told you before02:22
claydohhad to try :)02:22
* claydoh likes the notifications in quassel02:22
Sputwell, people over in #quassel are working on that (mainly sph, I think), so if you like to collaborate, I'm all for it :)02:23
* neversfelde too02:23
neversfeldeSput: k, I will ask there tomorrow02:23
Sputcool :)02:23
SputI need to go to bed too, it's 3:20 already02:23
neversfeldeoh, wow02:24
claydohLaserJock: quassel is using the kde4.2 notification thingy02:25
LaserJockhmm, I guess I turned off notifications02:26
LaserJockI generally really dislike notifications02:28
vorianScottK: i'm finished with everything not on your list, i'll start at le bottom02:28
vorianLaserJock: i'm in the same boat02:28
LaserJockI've wondered how possible it would be to have like a "disable all notifications" option in System Settings02:28
vorian<3 irssi + flashy screen02:28
* ScottK tosses out http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/todays-tip-turning-off-fancy-schmancy.html02:30
claydohI should do that, as they are getting annoying in a Vista-uac-like way02:30
* neversfelde asked for ztranslators in our foruj02:31
neversfeldebatterie power is low02:31
LaserJockScottK: is that *all* notifications, I can't quite tell what he's saying02:32
ScottKLaserJock: You now know as much as I do.02:32
LaserJockplasma_applet_systemtray, that looks like maybe it'd be right02:32
ScottKvorian: You did kbstate already. right?02:34
vorianScottK: knock rsibreak off your list02:34
vorianScottK: yep02:34
voriankepas was not fixed02:35
ScottKvorian: Did you do plasmoid-toggle-compositing?02:40
* ScottK did the others above that.02:40
ScottKOK.  I got that one.02:40
vorianim trying to fix kepas at the moment :)02:41
K`zanI'm no dev and I am RATHER *frustrated* after a week of KDE4, but I really need to say this to someone?02:42
ScottKvorian: I'm also rather proud of how I made that list: ls | grep tar | pastebinit02:42
vorianScottK: that was impressive :)02:43
* vorian needs pastebinit02:43
* ScottK has only recently started using it and is finding it very handy.02:43
vorianoh, we have batpaste!02:44
K`zanKDE4 is bloodly useless other than being, perhaps, "pretty".  What in God's name were  you thinking to force 4 on us in the state that it is in?  I've been with kubuntu for a good while, but I need to go someplace where people are still providing the functionality in 3.5.  Releasing 4 with no options is simply unacceptable.  I *do* appreciate your efforts, but this is absurd.02:44
seelefyi there is an option in system settings to configure notifcations on the application level02:44
vorianScottK: if you have bat-tools, you have batpaste02:44
K`zanThanks for letting me get that off my chest, hopefully 4 will catch up someday and I can come back to kubuntu.02:45
K`zanOff to gnome or some other distro, sigh, cry...02:47
claydohseele: but not necessarily for plasmoids, afaik. for example, my weather plasmoid pops one up for every update02:48
seeleclaydoh: ah.. yes, i think aaron blogged about how to configure that stuff02:49
vorianyay! kepas is fix0red02:50
claydohseele: not sure, but it still showed an 'old-style' poup02:51
claydohI just set my refresf time to something more sane than the 10 minutes i set it to :)02:52
seeleit should really even be using a popup.. weather information is like time.  information on demand02:53
claydohI am not 10 percent, that was this morning when I tried it out, and got a notification that I thought was the weather info download02:54
ScottKvorian: The bat stuff is far too magical for me so far.03:00
vorianpatpase is simple03:00
vorianbatpaste, even03:00
vorianbatpaste your.file03:00
ScottKSame as pastebinit03:01
ScottKvorian: With your "I want to do more server team stuff" hat on, want a security update to do?03:04
ScottKOK.  I'll mail you some stuff.  What address?03:04
ScottKOK.  Queuing it up now.03:05
voriangot it03:07
vorianor part03:08
ScottKvorian: Should be 3.03:12
ScottKJust sent the last.03:12
vorianyep, have them all03:12
* vorian gets busy03:12
ScottKI'll catch the -backports releases via  an updated backport.03:12
* ScottK fixed Jaunty already.03:12
ScottKvorian: Let me know if you have any questions.03:18
vorianI'm sure i will, i'm reading over the process now03:18
ScottKOK.  Great.03:27
ScottKNCommander: Any chance you could look at kde4bindings FTBFS on Sparc (It built on armel, BTW)03:27
NCommanderCan you just check to make sure its not an ICE?03:28
* NCommander is seeing if he can kick his MacBook PRO alive03:28
ScottKNCommander: It didn't seem to be.  It looked like some kind of unknown type error03:29
ScottKNCommander: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4bindings/4%3A4.1.96-0ubuntu1/+build/835052/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-sparc.kde4bindings_4:4.1.96-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz03:30
ScottKseele: We may be a little late tomorrow.03:31
ScottK$YOUNGEST has a birthday party to attend and the math doesn't quite work.03:31
NCommanderScottK, this is a KDE4 release party?03:32
ScottKNCommander: No.  This is taking my teenage daughter to Linux Chicks.03:32
* NCommander remembers seele saying something about that on her blog03:32
ScottKRelease party is in a week or two.03:32
NCommanderUgh, I'd love to attend (and meet you in person) but I'll be in germany :-/03:33
ScottKWe'll manage it at some point.03:33
ScottKMy wife left town for $WORK stuff for 6 weeks today, so I'll be due some time off from the kids when the next UDS comes around.03:34
ScottKDoes anyone else get a preview window when you hover over a link in Quassel?03:37
astrommeSk yes I do03:37
ScottKI'm still trying to decide if it's really cool or really annoying.03:37
astrommeScottK: ^^ is for you03:37
astrommeYeah, I'm undecided as well03:38
vorianScottK: you need these from gutsy on, correct?03:39
astrommeYou can disable it in the preferences03:39
ScottKvorian: The security issue that came with 2.8.1 only needs to go to Intrepid.  It doesn't affect Gutsy/Hardy03:39
ScottKvorian: The other one is just Hardy/Intrepid.03:40
ScottKThe Guty version doesn't even have the functions in question.03:40
vorianthere is one in gutsy backports03:41
ScottKYes, I'm working on testing 2.8.1 backports now.03:41
ScottKGenerally in backports unless there's a good reason not we do security stuff by just doing a new backport03:42
ScottKvorian: Actually now that I think about it, don't bother with Hardy.  The crash issue has a workaround and so an SRU is probable excessive.03:44
ScottKSo just Intrepid.03:44
seeleScottK: no worries, we'll probably be there for several hours :)03:47
vorianthat was a control O03:51
ScottKAny suggestions on how to get my mouse back (It's locked in place and won't move)?  Keyboard (obviously) works fine.03:56
seeledid you restart x or trying to avoid that?04:00
ScottKTrying to avoid that04:00
ScottKAlthough since I'm still on Intrepid, at least ctrl-alt-backspace works.04:00
* ScottK says what the heck and restarts it.04:01
ScottK-desktopRestarting X didn't do it either.04:05
ScottK-desktopRebooting that box now.04:06
seelehuh.. is it a usb mouse or a touchpad?04:06
* ScottK-desktop is not a fan of 2.6.2704:06
seelehope reboot works04:06
ScottK-desktopI choose to blame the kernel.04:06
ScottK-desktopYep.  Coming back up working now.04:07
ScottK-desktopIt's funny, I'm reading headlines like "Washington visitors looking to be part of history" and thinking all of the people I've met that live in the area are just looking to avoid traffic.04:10
seeleyeah really04:16
seelethe grocery store was crazy today.. usually sunday is the busy day04:17
ScottKI'm liking Konqueror as a web browser a lot more now that I switched the default font to 8 pt.04:19
ScottKNCommander: kdebase-workspace FTBFS on armel due to your standard Qreal type problem.04:51
ScottKvorian: You still up?05:16
* ScottK blows the dust off his dapper pbuilder.05:16
* ScottK heads to bed. Good night all.05:35
ScottK-desktopOK.  Not quite.05:37
ScottK-desktopNCommander: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21301859/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-armel.plasmoid-toggle-compositing_0.2.1-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is in Universe, but I'd appreciate it if you'd have a look at that one too (same type of failure).05:37
NCommanderScottK-desktop, sure05:39
ScottK-desktopNCommander: I kicked off retries on everything that didn't need kdebase or -workspace, so we should have a decent idea of where we stand tomorrow.05:41
NCommanderTHanks ScottK05:42
NCommanderRiddell, EPING06:48
apachelogger~twitter update I feel like an elephant slept on my head10:16
kubotustatus updated10:16
apacheloggerlos would be preferred10:17
apacheloggerTaskJugglerUI: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN6KParts16BrowserExtension10setURLArgsERKNS_7URLArgsE12:42
apacheloggerI wonder how that is possible with a  change that is not even related to any KPart12:43
* apachelogger seriously hates kdelibs12:50
wesleythe bug that in wont come in kde4.2 rc is still not fixed12:52
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:52
wesleyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com:80/106414/ guys still the same errors as last time13:25
wesleygoing see if there are updates13:26
jussi01wesley: tried sudo apt-get install -f13:28
wesleyi am refreshing apt so going try that, and hope i can comfirm this as fixed13:29
wesleyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com:80/106415/  same13:32
Arbyafternoon folks, I'm trying to triage bug 30732313:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 307323 in kdepim "KMail's OpenGPG module fail because don't found "/usr/local/bin/chiasmus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30732313:32
Arbythis seems to be the same as kde bug 13251513:32
ubottuKDE bug 132515 in encryption ""Chiasmus support": File "/usr/local/bin/chiasmus" does not exist or is not executable" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13251513:33
Arbyis this something that needs to be fixed in our packages13:33
jussi01wesley: though may I remind you support is in #kubuntu13:33
Arbyor something that needs to be fixed upstream13:33
wesleyjussi01 i am a tester13:35
cbrwtf is up with mplayerplug-in.. god damnit.. after every 8 release of 10 it experiences crashing problems after pressing "back" at a page that has media content.. i've even reported bugs.. and they've gotten fixed.. and then they're there again13:56
cbrhow can that still be the norm of the embedded media player world13:56
cbrdont mind my frustration :p13:56
cbrand mplayerplug-in triggers kwin to go to 70% cpu usage almost every time14:00
cbreven after i close the media14:00
cbro nice, found a bug report on launchpad where i can concentrate my anger on :D14:04
JontheEchidnawhoa, new kdebluetooth414:06
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cbrhmm.. with 22 open and 21 unassigned bugs it's probably not a surprise why it crashes so often :p14:07
JontheEchidnayeah, it's incompatible with the latest bluetooth :P14:10
JontheEchidnayou get a nice big crash14:10
cbri was talking about mplayerplug-in :p14:10
cbror were you just thinking out loud?14:10
JontheEchidnanope, I thought you were talking about kdebluetooth since it has a similar amount of open/unassigned bugs14:11
Arby22 isn't very many :) I'm looking at kdepim and it has 155 unassigned14:11
cbrwell, that package had like 70 reported ever14:11
cbrpfft.. turned off kwin compositing and now mplayerplug-in wont crash14:17
cbrand kwin wont go 70% cpu either14:17
cbrnow how the hell am i going to debug that :p14:17
ArbyJontheEchidna: you know cmake/buildsystems better than me, could you have a look at my question on bug 307323 back up there ^^ a bit14:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 307323 in kdepim "KMail's OpenGPG module fail because don't found "/usr/local/bin/chiasmus" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30732314:17
Arby(about 50 minutes back)14:17
apacheloggerArby: why do you think this is a packaging issue?15:07
apacheloggeror cmake related for that matter?15:07
Arbyapachelogger: I don't know that is either, I'm just going off ingo's reference to 'the build' in the kde bug15:07
Arbyto me that means either the kde build or the building of our packages15:08
apacheloggerbuild in general I assume15:08
apacheloggerprobably that backend is crap or something15:08
apachelogger+ the path is hardcoded ./libkleo/backends/chiasmus/config_data.c:    { PATH "/usr/local/bin/chiasmus" }, /* in the absence of C99, we assume path is first in the union here */15:08
apacheloggerso the original issue needs to be addressed upstream anyway15:08
Arbyapachelogger: ok that answers my question then15:09
Arbyif it was our packages I was going to tackle it15:09
Arbynow I can just add a bug watch and forget about it15:09
JontheEchidnawhat apachelogger said15:09
apacheloggerI am so motu15:13
* JontheEchidna so isn't yet :P15:13
JontheEchidna!find logitechmouse.rules15:17
ubottuPackage/file logitechmouse.rules does not exist in intrepid15:17
smarternice command15:18
apacheloggerapparently hal as a pretty decent way of handling special buttons with non-standard key codes15:18
Arbydoes anybody know what plug-in bug 296412 is on about?15:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 296412 in kdepim "no other plugins available in korganizer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29641215:29
Arbyis this something that akonadi is supposed to handle now?15:30
apacheloggerArby: maybe 4.1 had no plugin support?15:31
apacheloggerArby: anyway, since he seems to be out for the exchange plugin => support was dropped15:31
apacheloggerlike completely ... if he wants to have that thing return he better funds development15:32
apacheloggerat least that is what the kdepim site suggested back in the days ;-)15:32
Arbyapachelogger: I suppose that makes the bug invalid then15:32
Arbyactually I think I just found the answer http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/374015:33
apacheloggeroh, akondi and it's abstraction goodness15:34
apacheloggerkdelibs with khelpcenter patch uploaded15:34
apacheloggerlets hope it doesn't break ;-)15:34
apachelogger~twitter update kdelibs (KDE 3) uploaded ... now I am waiting for the failed to build ;-)15:38
kubotustatus updated15:38
apacheloggerArby: you are not motu yet?15:41
Arbyapachelogger: erm, no not even close :)15:42
apacheloggerArby: you are the new minion then15:43
ArbyI'm probably missing a number of requirements15:43
apacheloggerbug 289504 needs to be forwarded15:43
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/289504/+text)15:43
Arbylike the fact that I rarely touch universe15:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 289504 in kdebase-runtime "Desktop and trash KIO slaves report unkown size" [Low,Confirmed]15:44
apacheloggerArby: first triage then touching packages in naughty ways15:44
Arbyand I haven't done enough packaging of new apps15:44
apacheloggerinkscape pulls in 41 new packages!15:44
apacheloggerand they complain about our deps being not dynamic enough15:45
* smarter has inkscape and no gnome-mount15:46
smartertry with --without-recommends? :P15:46
apacheloggerRiddell: you rebroke koffice :P15:46
apacheloggerconflicts with oxygen again15:46
apacheloggersmarter: I didn't take that as valid argument for firefox, nor will I for inkscape15:47
apacheloggerkarbon \o/15:47
apacheloggeralmost correct rendering ;-)15:49
smarterreport bug :p15:51
apacheloggersmarter: haha, aptitude wants to remove all my dev packages15:51
apacheloggerwhat a biatch15:51
smarterwhy don't they use Qt stuff for rendering?15:51
apacheloggerthe might do... which is the problem15:51
apacheloggerQt's plain SVG rendering doesn't even get all of oxygen right15:52
* smarter wonders why there isn't a libsvg shared by everybody instead of all these implementations which don't matter since everyone uses Inkscape in the end15:54
apacheloggerI think SVG is a phony standard, just like HTML15:56
apacheloggereveryone claims it's SVG while it is in fact not15:57
smarterSVG is cool15:57
apacheloggerinkscape certainly has some stuff specific to itself15:57
* smarter once made a part of an image blink for a certain amount of times with fade in/out just by adding two lines of svg :p15:57
apacheloggerhow do I make our shiny logo fit twitter15:57
smarterit's "inkscape svg"15:58
smarterit warns you if you try to save as plain svg15:58
* smarter notes that finding what lines he should add and where took him more than an hour of search on the net, thanks to the lack of tutorial and unclear spec15:59
* apachelogger always thought the idea of animated SVG was kinda cool16:00
apacheloggerjust imagine ... an SVG wallpaper of suse's gecko with rolling eyes16:00
apacheloggeror constantly feeding on insects16:00
apacheloggersuse could make loads of cool stuff with their mascot16:01
\sh apachelogger: you are watching too much of this jungle camp on rtl,->16:01
smarterand Qt rendered my animated stuff properly (:16:01
apachelogger\sh: sure, with mausi lugner it is bound to be interesting :P16:01
apacheloggersmarter: if it only woud be as nice to key codes16:02
Sputthat ugly thinny person?16:02
apacheloggerI never actually saw her :P16:02
\shSput: yepp16:02
Sputyeah, just listening to her is bad enough16:02
\shapachelogger: shiver16:02
Sputnot that the other girls in the camp are much nicer to look at or listen too16:02
apacheloggersmarter: Qt gets all kind of attacks when you try to make use of a key that it's hardcoded table doesn't support16:02
apacheloggermy dell's lightbulb key would be one of them16:03
\shSput: girls? you mean those renovated pieces of flesh?16:03
smarterlightbulb key?16:03
smarterit gives you ideas?16:03
Sput\sh: yeah, exactly16:03
Sputgundis zambo was much more attractive 20 years ago when she was still on TV16:04
\shSput: read my flex/red5 workshops and tell me if it's usable16:04
\shSput: yeah...gundis was nice in the past...16:04
Sputin a past where even you were young..16:04
\shSput: grmpf16:05
Sput\sh: btw, how was your beer with the swedish guy?16:05
SputI came back from Frankfurt at 2230 that day :/16:05
\shSput: cool...we had a nice chat about sysadmin stuff and some hardware related things...16:06
ScottKArby: I know at least one person who made core-dev and never did a new package from scratch.  Don't feel you HAVE to.16:18
ArbyScottK: really, I find that quite surprising actually16:20
Arbystill, nice to know16:20
apacheloggerScottK: that was back in the days :P16:26
ScottKTrue, but I don't think it's a hard requirement.16:27
ScottKI don't see "Didn't shove more unmaintained crap into the archive" as a reason to reject an app.16:27
* ScottK starts to wonder if some CUPS fix broke his printing or if maybe the printer/scanner/fax is now just scanner/fax.16:28
smartersudo aptitude install siggen && fsynth16:30
smarterthat stuff is cool16:30
apacheloggerscrew aptitude :P16:30
apacheloggerany app that wants to uninstall -dev packages is seriuosly broken IMHO16:30
apacheloggerlook like debian wants to go doc/kde/ for KDE 4 apps16:31
* apachelogger looks for clashes16:31
apacheloggerScottK, Riddell: I think we should go to doc/kde/ ... the only clash is in HTML/common, so we would want to drop it from KDE3's libs16:33
apacheloggerthis probably renders KDE 3 docs ugly, but stil usable16:33
apacheloggertaskjuggler doesn't look very attractive, but it's useable ;-)16:34
apacheloggermight also be limited to taskjuggler though16:34
* ScottK struggles to care about documentation and fails.16:43
* Sput knows that feeling16:51
ScottKOhhh.  I can haz printing.16:55
ScottKOne page, anyway.  Urgh.16:56
apacheloggerScottK: do you care about rebuilding packages? :P17:10
* neversfelde is not clever enough for quilt17:10
apacheloggerin this case what I proposed would mean rebuilding all of KDE 417:10
apacheloggeror at least everything that comes with documentation, which luckily excludes all plasmoid-* packages17:10
apacheloggerneversfelde: what is the problem?17:10
ScottKapachelogger: Rebuilding isn't such a big thing.17:11
apacheloggermy thinking exactly17:11
apacheloggerneversfelde: just think of it as a kind of VCS, each patch is a revision, the unpatches source is the first source imported to the VCS, the patches source is the VCS HEAD17:12
neversfeldeapachelogger: I would like to create a new patch, but quilt seems not remember the path of the added files17:12
ScottKIt drives up Canonica'ls electricity bill a bit, but that's it.17:12
apacheloggerneversfelde: unlike with a VCS by default you have the origin, then you can applie revisions to it ... if you apply revision 3 (e.g. kubuntu_03_fix_crash.diff) quilt will apply all revisions before that17:12
ScottKneversfelde: Google debian quilt patch and there's a good HOWTO first or second.17:12
apacheloggerneversfelde: like any VCS you have to tell it which files to monitor17:13
apacheloggerneversfelde: which would be quilt add17:13
neversfeldeok quilt add17:13
apacheloggerwhich needs to be done per patch17:13
apacheloggerin order to create a new patch or revision you use quilt new17:13
neversfeldequilt edit and quilt refresh17:13
apacheloggerso you would go17:13
apacheloggerquilt new kubuntu_04_fix_another_crash.diff17:13
apacheloggerquilt add src/main.cpp17:13
apacheloggerkate src/main.cpp17:14
apacheloggerquilt refresh <-- that updates the patch17:14
apacheloggerquilt pop -a <-- that unapplies all patches and goes back to original tree17:14
neversfeldebut then it sais that the patch is empty17:14
apacheloggerneversfelde: then you didn't do quilt add17:14
apacheloggeror you edited the wrong file17:14
neversfeldeand it is, something is wrong17:15
apacheloggerthere are only those two options17:15
apacheloggeradd will create a copy of the file before patching, then when you do refresh it will diff the copy with the version in the source tree17:15
neversfeldei Am in debian dir and then for example I add a file with quilt add ../CMakeLists.txt17:15
apacheloggerbad practice :D17:15
neversfeldeah :)17:15
apacheloggerthat is the only tricky thing about quilt17:15
apacheloggerneversfelde: you should be in main source17:16
apacheloggerln -s debian/patches17:16
apacheloggeranother option is to edit your quiltrc in a fancy way (described in the quilt readme in usr/share/doc/quilt17:16
neversfeldebut quilt creates a .pc dircetory, can I do it in the source directory?17:16
apachelogger.pc will be removed once all patches are unapplied17:17
neversfeldeok, I will try it, thanks17:17
apacheloggerneversfelde: don't forget to rm patches if you go with the ln approach17:17
apacheloggerotherwise debuild/dpkg-buildpackage will cry you a river because it can't diff a link ;-)17:17
apacheloggeroh man17:18
apacheloggeronly half way through the l10n updates17:18
* ScottK totally fails to understand how this is better than cdbs-edit-patch $PATCHNAME, edit your stuff, exit.17:18
apacheloggerif my connection goes down I have to start all over again -.-17:18
apacheloggerScottK: it gives you more control, you could just as well implement cdbs-edit-patch for quilt17:19
ScottKapachelogger: I get quilt has all kinds of wonderful shiny knobs.  I just never seem to happen to need them.17:20
* ScottK would appreciate it if some quilt fanboy would implement that.17:21
* apachelogger would only do that with ruby :P17:21
ScottKPerfect.  If it's implemented in a language I don't know, I can't be expected to fix it.17:21
apachelogger_I_ would only do -edit-patch in ruby17:22
Arbydoes anybody know which package has debugging stuff for libQtXml?17:22
ArbyI'm looking at bug 29465417:22
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/294654/+text)17:22
apacheloggerbroken bot17:23
apacheloggerhttp://twitter.com/apachelogger design feedback plz17:23
Arbyapachelogger: I have that and I'm still missing the symbols17:23
apacheloggerArby: are you sure you need the QtXml symbols and not libxml?17:24
Arbyapachelogger: that's the backtrace -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/106531/17:24
apacheloggerArby:   libqt4-xmlpatterns-dbg17:25
Arbyapachelogger: thanks17:26
apachelogger2009-01-18 18:23:50 FEHLER 502: Bad Gateway.17:27
* apachelogger fires a taepodong-2 at launchpad17:28
apacheloggerthe whole l10n shit again17:28
Tm_Tapachelogger: crap17:28
seele~karma launchpad17:30
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smarterneversfelde: appropriate ~/.quiltrc for debs: http://pastebin.com/m7dfa71517:31
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seeleno, the high and low17:32
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neversfeldesmarter: thanks17:33
neversfeldeI think it worked now17:33
apacheloggersmarter: that is undynamic17:34
apacheloggersmarter: the quilt documentation has  a more senisble approach17:34
smarterapachelogger: you use quilt for something else than debian/patches?17:34
apacheloggereverything I don't have in a bzr brnach is using quilt17:35
apacheloggerwell, almost everything17:35
apachelogger*wondering about the lag while uploading*17:35
neversfeldehaha, it builds now17:35
* neversfelde has patched his first package :)17:35
Arbyapachelogger: even with  libqt4-xmlpatterns-dbg installed I'm still missing the debugging symbols:(17:37
apacheloggerthat is impossible17:37
apacheloggerpackages.ubuntu sezs that package includes the .debug for libqtxml17:37
* Arby looks17:37
JontheEchidnaoh, for some reason our debug packages for qt4 are stripped17:38
JontheEchidnaor for some reason or another don't actually work17:39
Arbyah, that's not good17:39
Arbydoes anybody have a trunk build that can reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/29465417:40
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway (https://launchpad.net/bugs/294654/+text)17:40
* JontheEchidna opens up konq to find the qt4 bug17:40
JontheEchidnabug 29465417:40
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/294654/+text)17:41
Arbylaunchpad really is fail today17:41
smartertry the dbgsym from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com ?17:41
JontheEchidna^qt4 debug packages bug17:42
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/261380/+text)17:42
* Arby reads17:42
ArbyI don't understand most of that but it sounds ugly17:46
apacheloggersimply put our qt got crappy debug symbols17:46
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did anyone ever diff our Qt to Debian's?17:46
apacheloggergagern claims it works in Debian so either our packaging has a bug or our cdbs does17:47
apacheloggerin case that eve uses cdbs17:47
JontheEchidnanot that I recall17:48
Arbyso if I were to test the version from this guys ppa and show they work we could use the patch for our packages?17:50
JontheEchidnaI think his approach will just make the normal libs have debugging symbols17:52
JontheEchidnanot quite sure yet though17:52
* JontheEchidna downloads 107 MB orig.tar.gz so he can diff17:53
seeleanyone else having strange problems with konsole?  the scrollbar is on the left side and the term is messed up17:54
ras Is the knetworkmanager plasmoid packaged or planned on being packaged?17:58
JontheEchidnanot packaged at the moment, probably will be though17:59
rasok is there as way I can pull it? there is supposed to be a version for distros to use on 4.2 right?18:01
JontheEchidnacurrent trunk works with 4.218:01
JontheEchidnaI don't have the exact svn checkout command though18:01
ScottKTonio_ gave a link to his draft package yesterday.  Look at the logs18:02
JontheEchidnaooh, nice18:02
smarterexcept it isn't supposed to be usable nor used18:03
smarteraccording to the devs18:04
JontheEchidnait sorta works, barely18:05
smarterbut don't complain if it fries your network card :p18:06
JontheEchidnasmarter: oh, by the way. I committed a new upstream snapshot of webkitkde to bzr18:08
smarterJontheEchidna: oh, you should have told me18:08
smarterI've changed lots of things in the packaging18:08
ScottKTonio_ was using it with WPA.18:08
smartersince their's now lots more libs in it18:08
JontheEchidnaI didn't change much18:08
smarterlibkdenetwork, libkdewebkit, libwebkitkde (talks about confusing names!)18:09
smarterJontheEchidna: I'll look into it, but that means I have to remember what was missing from  my package + fix it + merge it with your stuff, your giving me extra work :p18:09
JontheEchidnasmarter: I removed quilt as a build-dep, bumped the svn revision in changelog, and removed THIS_SHOULD_GO_TO_UNSTABLE from rules18:10
smarterdidn't touch the .installs?18:11
JontheEchidnalist-missing said nothing was missing18:11
smarterkay, will look at that18:12
JontheEchidnasorry for any inconvenience18:12
smarterbut if you had used lintian, it would have insulted you :P18:13
RiddellNCommander: you wanted a favour?18:13
Riddellapachelogger: docs move fine with me18:13
apacheloggerRiddell: ok, I think we should start with 4.2.0 to get all of core KDE recompiled18:14
* apachelogger is eating the buildds again :P19:09
nixternaldoes digikam not work at all on intrepid?19:31
Lurenixternal: it may be, have heard from others19:34
Lurenixternal: I think it does not find kio's and plugins propelry (location of .desktop files)19:34
nixternalsomething about marble, and lib this or that19:34
apacheloggernixternal: do you think I should drop KDE 3's api docs? they would clash with KDE 4's ...if we would build them for KDE 419:34
Lurenixternal: the one from digikam-experimental? that one works only with kubuntu-experimental19:35
nixternaldigikam: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libdigikamcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN6Marble12MarbleWidget16addPlaceMarkDataERK7QString19:35
nixternalapachelogger: I think we should...no need for them anymore19:35
apacheloggeraye aye19:35
Lurenixternal: do you have kde from -experimental?19:35
nixternalLure: groovy, I will try digikam-experimental19:35
nixternalyes, I have the one from kubuntu-experimental19:35
Lurenixternal: then digikam-experimental is the right thing19:35
nixternalthan you sir, will set that up now19:36
Lurenixternal: and on Wed you can expect RC version there (and jaunty of course)19:36
apacheloggernixternal: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/284915/comments/5 course of action for documentation path ... you might want to move kubuntu-doc's path accordingly :)19:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 284915 in kdelibs "Khelpcenter missing docs list" [Medium,In progress]19:36
nixternalapachelogger: kubuntu-docs already use /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/$cc/*19:38
apacheloggernixternal: so they didn't work with KDE 4?19:38
apacheloggeror did you symlink?19:38
nixternalthey did...no symlinks19:38
apacheloggernixternal: that sounds weird19:38
nixternalwell, they worked with the whole /usr/lib/kde4 thing19:38
apacheloggerwhat do you know :)19:39
nixternalthat is the copyright stuff more than likely19:41
apacheloggernixternal: all the content of kubuntu-docs is in there19:41
apacheloggerwell, besides the KHC desktop file and the package documentation19:41
nixternaldunno, I will have to look at docs19:41
apacheloggerdpkg -L19:41
nixternalright now I am trying to get pictures off of my damn kamera :)19:41
apachelogger*preparing kdelibs upload*19:43
apacheloggeroh, and apparently the remaining l10n packages are also ready for upload19:43
nixternalanyone file a bug about that systems notifier thing not working with cameras?19:43
nixternalwould be nice if KDE would do something when I plug my camera in19:43
apacheloggernixternal: there already is one AFAIK19:44
apacheloggermaybe we should write one19:44
nixternalOK, I figured there would be19:44
apacheloggerthough I am not exaclty sure how I would go about that for a camera19:44
nixternalI don't think it would be difficult to get the camera stuff showing up19:44
apacheloggerdude, you should read my blog19:44
nixternalI do if it gets to one of the planets :)19:45
apacheloggerimplementing that kind of stuff is kinda nifty +  redundant + pointless +  ewww19:45
ScottKhttp://blog.rakekniven.de/2009/01/18/banner-selection-for-kde-42/ <-- Thinks kubuntu.org ought to have some of that.19:45
apacheloggernixternal: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/08/dragons-dvds-and-new-device-notifiers.html19:45
nixternalwhy is apport so stupid?19:47
* apachelogger always deactivates apport19:47
nixternalI have a damn crash and the box is longer than 8 of my screens side-by-side19:47
apacheloggerin jaunty it still comes poping up at times19:47
apacheloggerasking me for password19:47
nixternalI thought I disabled it19:47
apacheloggerapport has a mind of its own ;-)19:47
Arbyhaving spent a chunk of today on bug triage I'd like apport to learn to recognise a useless backtrace :)19:48
ArbyI'm a bit bored of typing please install kdepim-dbg and try again19:49
apacheloggerlift me up. lift me up. higher now ama.19:49
apacheloggerArby: if KDE was a bit less busy with ranting about downstream not providing dbg symbols out of the box and instead implement a way how downstream can suggest the user what package to install when a backtrace is unusable they would be happier and you would as well ;-)19:50
apacheloggerkdelibs uploaded19:51
Tm_Tto repeat myself...19:51
Tm_TI want to go to Akademy!19:51
* apachelogger wants to go everywhere19:51
apacheloggercan't go anywhere19:51
* apachelogger is a poor unicorn ninja19:51
Arbyapachelogger: agreed :)19:51
Tm_Tapachelogger: is libmsn and kopete updated in experimental?19:51
apacheloggervorian: we still need to get started on our talk19:51
apacheloggerTm_T: unlikely19:51
Tm_Tapachelogger: please do, son19:51
apacheloggerTm_T: 4.2.0 is coming anyway19:51
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: don't forget to bump libmsn19:52
Tm_Tbeta3 thank you (:)19:52
* apachelogger thinks he should mention that JontheEchidna is doing most of the backports in his motu application thread19:53
* JontheEchidna backports19:53
ScottKapachelogger should just walk north a bit and pay geser and soren a visit.19:53
* apachelogger is a poor unicorn ninja and can't do that19:54
apacheloggerone day, I will have stopped working for no good reason and dropped into university then I can go visit as many people and events as I like19:54
apacheloggerand when i am 40 I will probably have finished my studies and can retire19:55
apacheloggerthen I can devote day and night to poking motu council members :P19:55
jussi01grumble fissh19:57
ArbyScottK: does bug 276307 still occur for you? (just chasing up incomplete bugs)19:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276307 in kdepim "kontact crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27630719:57
ScottKArby: I haven't seen that one in a while.19:59
Arbyhmm, I think I'll make one last request for useful info from the other reporters then kill it if not19:59
Arbythe backtraces are all empty20:00
apacheloggerNightrose: bug 25708920:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257089 in amarok "amarok does not save the playlist between computer restarts" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25708920:05
Nightroseapachelogger: hmmm20:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 318094 ... nvidia maybe?20:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 318094 in kdebase-workspace "after making panel height bigger desktop goes black" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31809420:07
JontheEchidnaI used to see this from time to time in the KDE 4.1 releases20:08
JontheEchidnanow I can do it always with KDE 4.220:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: doesn't happen on intel20:22
apacheloggerscaling is just very slow here, which might also be due to my completely filled up ram ;-)20:22
yuriymy desktop has done that as well with nvidia on 4.2, not sure what I did though20:38
yuriyhaven't seen it on ATi20:38
NCommanderwho the heck packaging kdebase-workspace?!20:42
NCommanderMy patches from the previous release weren't merged across from 0ubuntu220:42
NCommanderkdebase-workspace (4:4.1.85-0ubuntu2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low20:42
jpdsNCommander: Good evening.20:43
NCommanderHey jpds20:43
* NCommander fumes20:43
jpdsSurely it's not as bad as the NULL stuff? :)20:44
smarter"   It's the right decision not to install KDE 4 on Ubuntu systems. Ubuntu ships broken KDE packages. Try openSUSE in VirtualBox. An updated live CD should also be available soon: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/20:44
smarter 20:44
* smarter should probably not read Dot comments20:44
Tm_Tsmarter: who wrote that comment?20:45
Tm_Tsmarter: and where?20:45
smarter"by The Devil on Thursday 15/Jan/2009, @02:49"20:45
jpdssmarter: Name says it all.20:45
* ScottK-palm ponders what to do. The games @ the birthday are ETOSCARY for $YOUNGEST.21:19
ScottK-palmHer older sister seems to have gotten her past some of it. I doubt it'll stick.21:20
Riddellplay ratchett screwdriver!21:31
* smarter finally discovered the svn feature he was desperately searching for, svn blame21:32
* seele hopes most people plan on riding the Metro to tonights inagural festivities and leaving the roads clear21:39
Nightroseyou going there as well seele?21:39
* Arby decides he can't face the kdepim bug list any longer21:41
smarterare we going to drop amarok 1.4 from the repos for 8.10?21:41
seeleNightrose: no i'm not a crazy person.  i've got something to do on the other side of the city i have to drive to21:41
* seele grumbles something about damn tourists21:42
seeleit's not even the amount of people (well.. 3 million extra people *is* a lot..) but they dont know how to ride the train21:42
seeleso even if the metro normally has a capacity to move 1 million people in a day, if most of those people dont know the rules then tehy cause delays, backups, and other problems21:43
Riddellseele: is that tonight?21:45
Riddellwhen's the main ceremony?21:45
seeleRiddell: Tonight is a free concert downtown21:47
seelei think earlier today there were religulous sessions at the national athedral21:47
seelethere's something going on tomorrow21:48
seeleRiddell: Tueday is the official part with the swearing in21:48
apacheloggersmarter: eh?21:50
* smarter <-- tired :p21:51
apacheloggersmarter: why?21:51
apacheloggersmarter: there is no 1.4 in 9.0421:52
smarterapachelogger: ok21:52
smarterapachelogger: related to the issue with rosetta and translated strings which could cause crashes if all entities like %x are not shown in the translation or something21:54
smarteramarok 1.4 had a lot of those21:54
smarteris it me, or is klipper stupid in 4.2rc121:58
apacheloggersmarter: there was no such issue22:00
apacheloggerwas there?22:00
smarterapachelogger: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-fr-l10n/2009-January/002749.html22:02
smarterabsolutely no idea wth this is22:03
apacheloggerme neither22:03
smarterbah, enough German for today22:10
* smarter is not motivated to learn the differences between bevor, vor and vorher22:10
seelewow.. it' looks like alfred hitchcok's the birds out there22:15
seelehmm.. wrong channel, but you might want to know too :P22:16
apacheloggeroh dear22:16
* apachelogger better hides under the table22:17
seeleok.. hungry.. heading out22:17
seeleScottK: see you in a bit22:17
apachelogger~twitter update back in the days, when I didn't triage bugs, I was a happier person :|22:24
kubotustatus updated22:24
LaserJockapachelogger: oh, what was that really interesting one the other day22:25
LaserJockwhere JontheEchidna I think it was closed it and a person went nuts on him22:25
apacheloggerthey do that all the time22:26
NightroseLaserJock: the one about rio karma?22:26
LaserJockyeah, I found it22:26
apacheloggerif you don't fix it you are an arse, if you don't comment you are one, if you comment but they don't like the comment, if you comment and talk badly about their commented nonesense....22:27
LaserJockif you fix it but know with the syntax they like ...  ;-)22:27
LaserJockif you fix it in all releases but feisty ...22:28
apacheloggeractually, yeah, I think once a guy complained about my changelog entry being too verbose22:28
apacheloggerLaserJock: well, KDE 3 makes this fun22:28
apacheloggerif you close it stating that it's never going to be fixed because KDE 3 is pretty much you will be eaten alive22:29
apacheloggermost reports are way too self-centered, demanding fixes for completely useless stuff, which probably would take you half a day to do anyway and if you tell them that it's not worth the effort, they might flood you with redundant reasons why it is worth fixing22:31
LaserJockfor me the ones that are the most frustrating are the ones that assume you personally write all code that's found in Ubuntu22:32
apacheloggerhm, never had any of those, they only expect me to fix all the code found in ubuntu ^_^22:33
Nightrosefor me the ones asking you to implement $totallyuselesscrapfeature are the most annoying ones22:33
LaserJockwell, sometimes they feel the are one in the same22:33
Nightroseand people completely fail to see that other people should be bothered with it22:33
apacheloggerbug 258861 was awesome22:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 258861 in ubuntu "Plasma crashes with some widgets" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25886122:34
Nightrosehehe yea22:34
* apachelogger didn't even bother reading22:34
apacheloggeractually is more fun than I though22:37
* apachelogger gets a cup of bedtime tea22:38
* Nightrose has a glass of bedtime wine22:39
LaserJockapachelogger: so mean, "that saddens me cause I wrote it with all my soul"22:40
danimoNightrose: good idea. I still have a bottle around. But if I open that up it will a) get pretty empty b) I won't be able to get out of bed tomorrow :)22:40
Nightrosetoo bad22:40
danimoNightrose: Since I started working I managed to get up at 7 every morning. Makes me kinda proud22:41
danimoNightrose: well, except for the day where I stood at the office until 1am of course :)22:41
Nightrosedanimo: scary...22:42
* Sput has a glass of bed-time tomato juice22:42
danimoNightrose: when dedication becomes your job...22:42
apacheloggerLaserJock: pardon?22:43
apacheloggerSput: had that earlier :D22:43
LaserJockapachelogger: you were so  mean, after all he was writing that with all his soul ;-)22:44
* apachelogger is usually mean when triaging22:44
apacheloggerlowers my overall happieness by about 300% :S22:45
apacheloggerLaserJock: he was meaner though :P22:45
apacheloggerI like the part where Chris cautions him and he goes completely wocka22:46
Nightrosehe started it!!!22:46
LaserJockwell, it was interesting to me that the only comprensible thing I could understand from him were the insults22:47
apacheloggerLaserJock: yeah, lots of information none of it related and none of it making sense22:51
apacheloggermy understanding of that whole posting at least22:52
* nixternal kicks Jaunty Alternate in the ass22:58
cbrhmm... okular has this really retarded default window size now.. and i resize it and close it and it doesnt help22:59
cbrbut when i once resized it to be retarded, it remembered that in a heartbeat :p22:59
* apachelogger is too tired to make kate not change half the changelog due to bad formatting22:59
apacheloggerah, day just changed23:00
apacheloggertime for bed :P23:00
* apachelogger hands everyone a cookie23:00
apachelogger~order bed23:00
* kubotu is placing a cot for apachelogger in the corner of #kubuntu-devel.23:00
jussi01nini apachelogger23:05
Nightroseanyone else got a similar email?23:51
NightroseTonight I started developing a GNU/Linux distribution based on Kubuntu23:51
NightroseJaunty Alpha 3 and KDE 4.1.96. I need you help with creating meta23:51
Nightrosepackages for pirate-desktop, pirate-entertainment and pirate-games.23:51
NightroseMaybe you could help me with deciding which pages should be in these23:51
Nightrosemeta packages?23:51
* Nightrose wonders why that person send it to her23:51
LaserJockNightrose: because you're a pirate?23:51
Nightrosei am a cat herder23:52
Nightrosenot so much a pirate :P23:52

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