[00:00] <GnuSense> I have Intrepid installed on a machine in my attic, I found I've become a born-again Gnome convert.
[00:01] <dominique> GnuSense: hehe yeah... i thought many times of moving to gnome but i would have had to install it and i was just happy to a more or less working linux on my machine..never touch a running system you know ;)
[00:02] <dominique> GnuSense: tried linux a few years ago (ubuntu with gnome) and it was faster, unfortunately there was no driver for my wlan-card so i moved back to ms windows
[00:02] <GnuSense> Well, Debian based systems will add new desktops pretty seemlessly, 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[00:03] <dominique> GnuSense: you're sure? i'll try this...
[00:03] <dominique> Oh ahm, i think i got to stop X before...
[00:04] <dominique> is there a terminal irc client?
[00:04] <GnuSense> Well, drivers are one good reason to go for the latest & greatest desktop, dominique.  Yup, never had a bad experience adding desktops, you don't have to stop X.
[00:04] <GnuSense> edubuntu-desktop - edubuntu desktop system
[00:04] <GnuSense> edubuntu-desktop-kde - edubuntu desktop system with KDE desktop
[00:04] <GnuSense> kubuntu-desktop - Kubuntu desktop system
[00:04] <GnuSense> ubuntu-desktop - The Ubuntu desktop system
[00:04] <GnuSense> xubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu desktop system
[00:05] <dominique> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:05] <dominique> <- how to find out which process this is?
[00:05] <GnuSense> I'm sure there is, irssi comes to mind.
[00:05] <dominique> thank you
[00:05] <GnuSense> ps -aux |grep apt
[00:05] <dominique> thanks.
[00:06] <GnuSense> Probably the automatic update is active.
[00:06] <dominique> tehres no other apt process
[00:07] <GnuSense> Synaptic for adept open, dominique
[00:07] <GnuSense> ?
[00:07] <dominique> i knew there was a program that lists the locked files and which showed the processes...
[00:07] <dominique> hehe yeah ^ ^adept open... closed it.
[00:07] <GnuSense> Try ﻿ps -aux |grep dpkg
[00:08] <GnuSense> Or just look over the output of 'ps -aux'
[00:08] <dominique> ok, loading ubuntu-desktop
[00:08] <dominique> but ps -aux just shwos processes
[00:09] <dominique> just for my own curiousity: How to see what files are in use? ^^
[00:09] <GnuSense> Right, but it should show you what package management process was keeping your from adding other desktops.
[00:09] <dominique> k
[00:10] <werenerd> evening all. Does anyone know of an application that will send test signals to all your speakers?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[00:11] <dominique> lsof <- found it :D GnuSense
[00:11] <dominique> hi ActionParsnip
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> I run alltray to keep thunderbird running but out of  the way, Is there a command I can run to make it come back as if i'd clicked on it, kinda like a minimise / restore but to alltray
[00:12] <GnuSense> That's a good one to know about, dominique
[00:12] <dominique> jop, i guess so
[00:13] <dominique> GnuSense: There are no big problems when having kde and gnome running on the same machine? (different displays)
[00:15] <matt_> I got my cell phone and headset to work in kubuntu via bluetooth. However...after taking a look and trying blueproximity...it won't detect the devices..even though I can use the headset in skype.
[00:15] <GnuSense> No problem at all, dominique.  I frequently have XFCE, KDE3 & KDE4 installed at the same time and even Fluxbox or Enlightenment if I'm feeling frisky and have enough hard drive space.  You can select which one you want to start at your login manager (KDM, GDM).  Heck, you can even run multiple desktops at the same time, I haven't had a problem.
[00:16] <dominique> k thank you
[00:18] <dominique> and how to startx but not kde but gnome?
[00:18] <dominique> i mean, if select another display and startx, kde is taken automatically
[00:19] <dominique> GnuSense *highlight* :) pls tell me if i'm going on your nerves
[00:20] <GnuSense> Well, dominique, if you are init 3 you can just use something like startkde, startxfce4, I think there is probably a startgnome command if startx default to KDE, probably controlled by something in /etc/X11
[00:21] <GnuSense> No probs.  But the easiest way to start a different window manager is through your login manager, assuming you don't have the computer set up to automatically go to X.
[00:21] <dominiqu1> ah, in with irssi... works very nice :)
[00:21] <dominiqu1> quit
[00:21] <GnuSense> Just choose a different session type.  If you do go to X automatically just log off, that should give you the login manager, kdm or gdm.
[00:22] <GnuSense> Or once you are in X you can always ﻿Just start a new session with the new desktop, dominique.  You can do it as another user or even as your same user.
[00:22] <dominique> GnuSense: Ok, i can always do Ctrl+alt+f1/2/3/4/5/6
[00:22] <dominique> GnuSense: I'll try it..
[00:23] <Guest54066> kde 4.1 is such a mess
[00:23] <Guest54066> I can't believe it
[00:23] <dr_Willis> try 4.2 then?
[00:24] <GnuSense> Just remember, if you start a new session with a different window manager and try to start an application as that same user you won't be able to access your Firefox profile in the new window manager, since it will already be in use.  Same for Thunderbird and probably a lot of other apps.
[00:24] <GnuSense> Testify, Guest54066
[00:25] <dominique> GnuSense: K, thanks.
[00:26] <GnuSense> I wouldn't try the multiple simultaneous window managers at the same time unless you have reasonable beefy hardware, at least 512 MB of RAM.
[00:27] <Guest54066> 4.2 solves webcam detection problems? adds "open as root" option? guess not...
[00:28] <dr_Willis> Guest52984,  noidea, dont know, or care.. do you have an actual support question or are you going to just rant all day?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> I am the MAN!
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> does anyone in here use alltray to dock thunderbird?
[00:31] <dominique> GnuSense: I had today in all 6 ttys X+kde opened and run in all of them some applications to test stability of the os... it worked xD
[00:31] <markit> how can I add other themes? i.e. Air or Elegance?
[00:31] <dr_Willis> dominique,  run a few vncsessions also - for extra load.
[00:32] <Guest54066> can't run anything as root nor can I run my webcam through any program even though the same cam worked under kde 3.5
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> !themes | markit
[00:32] <dr_Willis> dominique,  i recall not too many years back - running mor ethen 1 instance of kde or gnome by the same user = big problems ;)
[00:32] <dominique> dr_Willis: How to do this on one machine? For me it was enough to see this, even windows cannot have mor than one display, i guess it would have crashed with more than 3
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest54066: to run stuff as root, use sudo for command line apps and kdesudo for gui apps
[00:32] <GnuSense> Wow, I don't think I've ever had more than 3 or 4 TTYs opened at once, and that was in sidux, which requires you to be in INIT 3 to upgrade (I get bored of looking at output scrolling so I open TTYs with lynx, moc, maybe irc.
[00:33] <dr_Willis> dominique,  windows is limited in how it can handle vnc. :) people get use to thinking vnc can only share the current desktop..  its only recently that vnc CAN do that  under linux. heh - its always had the feature to run several desktops 'hidden'
[00:33] <markit> ActionParsnip: no specific package from kubuntu?
[00:34] <dominique> ok :D
[00:34] <dr_Willis> dominique,  vnc can be fun
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> markit: well, no you are using kde, so any kde theme will work
[00:35] <Guest54066> root@Agartha:/var# kdesudo konqueror
[00:35] <Guest54066> No protocol specified
[00:35] <Guest54066> kdesudo: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[00:35] <Guest54066> I get that
[00:36] <Guest54066> with dolphin too
[00:36] <GnuSense> Guest, try 'kdesu dolphin'
[00:37] <Guest54066> I just can't
[00:37] <Guest54066> root@Agartha:/var# kdesu dolphin
[00:37] <Guest54066> bash: kdesu: command not found
[00:38] <ghostcube> Guest26127, no need for su doing if you are already root
[00:38] <GnuSense> Or as a normal user, "sudo sux" (install sux if you need to, first), and then you can start GUI apps from the command line.  Put a "&" at the end of the line if you want to continue to use the terminal session while the GUI app is running. ﻿Guest54066
[00:38] <ghostcube> Guest26127, pls use the normal user and the sudo dolphin
[00:38] <GnuSense> sudo apt-get install kdesudo-kde4 sux
[00:39] <ghostcube> Guest54066, sorry i meant you
[00:39] <faileas> lol
[00:39] <dominique> How do I burn CDs under kubuntu?
[00:40] <GnuSense> Another trick is to copy .Xauthority to your /root directory, Guest54066.  $  sudo cp /home/USER/.Xauthority /root
[00:40] <faileas> dominique: use k3b
[00:40] <dominique> faileas: thx
[00:40] <ghostcube> GnuSense, you are noticing the root account and prompt he postet
[00:40] <GnuSense> Then you can start GUI programs with a normal SUDO command.
[00:40] <Guest54066> thanks ppl
[00:40] <markit> ActionParsnip: I was looking in "system settings -> Appearance". Seems that themes are instead in "appearance settings" of desktop right click... so strange !
[00:40] <GnuSense> Guess not.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> markit: yeah its weird how they split stuff
[00:41] <Guest54066> thanks a lot
[00:41] <Guest54066> it worked
[00:41] <Guest54066> now for the webcam problem
[00:41] <GnuSense> Google is your friend.
[00:42] <Guest54066> it detects it as a usb cam
[00:42] <Guest54066> not normal
[00:42] <GnuSense> Just try not to think about the global warming....
[00:42] <Guest54066> google offers questions in this case
[00:42] <Guest54066> not answers
[00:42] <Guest54066> and...more issues
[00:43] <ghostcube> Guest54066, what cam is it
[00:43] <Guest54066> canyon ....something
[00:43] <dr_Willis> i dont think one needs do to 'sudo sux' at least i never have in the past...
[00:43] <Guest54066> gspca
[00:43] <dr_Willis> and  isent the command 'kdesudo' ?
[00:44] <dr_Willis> !sudo
[00:44] <GnuSense> Make sure you have a program to test your webcam, cheese is supposed to be nice.
[00:44] <Guest54066> I test it with kopete
[00:44] <ghostcube> Guest54066, the cam is already noticed ?
[00:44] <Guest54066> and skype
[00:44] <ghostcube> gspca sux a bit in skype
[00:44] <ghostcube> :|
[00:44] <Guest54066> kubuntu 8.04 detected it like a charm
[00:44] <dr_Willis> you run 'kdesudo command' as a user, from the terminal also.. not after you have allready gotten a root shell.
[00:45] <Guest54066> in kopete and skype too
[00:45]  * dr_Willis goes back to sleep
[00:45] <Guest54066> I used it a lot under kde3.5
[00:45] <Guest54066> it always worked
[00:45] <Guest54066> :(
[00:46] <ghostcube> now it isnt working ?
[00:46] <Guest54066> nope
[00:46] <Guest54066> it detects it as a usb webcam
[00:46] <GnuSense> dr_Willis: I've always used kdesu, never had a problem.  I think it is just an alias for kdesudo, but less typing is better, I always use my .bashrc file to make shortcuts to commands I use alot.
[00:46] <Guest54066> before it detected it by it's name....vv..something
[00:47] <Guest54066> now
[00:47] <Guest54066> it detects it as a usb webcam
[00:47] <ghostcube> can you pastebin the output of lsusb to pastie.org
[00:47] <GnuSense> e.g. for apt-cache search in .bashrc:    alias search='apt-cache search'
[00:47] <Guest54066> and only shows black stripes
[00:47] <dr_Willis> i recall wot kde4 there was some odd quirk/bug and kdesudo was born... not sure why
[00:48] <GnuSense> I'm probably in the wrong IRC channel, not being primarily a KDE4 or Intrepid user, but I played around in Ubuntu and it just seemed a tad busy.
[00:49] <Guest54066> so...in conclusion...webcam is detected in a wrong way and it shows black/white stripes
[00:49] <GnuSense> What color shirt are you wearing Guest54066?
[00:49] <Guest54066> :(
[00:49] <ghostcube> Guest54066, pls pastebin the output of lsusb to pastie.org
[00:50] <ghostcube> and then remove the cam from usb
[00:50] <ghostcube> and then attach it again
[00:50] <ghostcube> type dmesg into the terminal
[00:50] <ghostcube> the lines that have to do with the attachjed usb cam pls pastebin this ones too to pastie.org
[00:52] <Guest54066> ok
[00:52] <Guest54066> http://pastie.org/363551
[00:53] <Guest54066> sorry
[00:53] <Guest54066> not that
[00:53] <ghostcube> is trhis lsusb with cam attached ?
[00:54] <Guest54066> http://pastie.org/363553
[00:54] <Guest54066> this one is
[00:56] <ghostcube> and the dmesg output after attaching it
[00:56] <ghostcube> i think the last 10 lines should be trelated to the cam
[00:56] <ghostcube> *-t
[00:57] <Guest54066> http://pastie.org/363557
[00:57] <Guest54066> that's all that I get from lsusb
[00:57] <Guest54066> complete
[00:58] <dominique> hi
[00:59] <dominique> GnuSense: re, i'm on with gnome now... and it's fantastic! fast and high stability...
[00:59] <dominique> GnuSense: It's sad that even kde4 looks that nice it's that slow...
[00:59] <ghostcube> Guest54066, remove the cam attach it
[00:59] <ghostcube> then open terminal
[01:00] <ghostcube> dmesg
[01:00] <dr_Willis> kde4 is constantly being woked on.. give it some time
[01:00] <ghostcube> this will tell u some htings needed
[01:00] <ghostcube> paste the lines conmtaining the usb cam should be the last 10 lines
[01:00] <dominique> dr_Willis: i will...
[01:01] <GnuSense> KDE4 is, charitably, beta software.  I guess the only way they could get people to give feedback is to release it as finished.  Gnome is slowly becoming more usable.  They even finally have tabs in nautilus in 8.10.
[01:01] <ghostcube> gnome is just ugly looking
[01:01] <ghostcube> :|
[01:01] <faileas> lol
[01:02] <faileas> GnuSense: 4.2 is loads better, but i kinda do agree it could do with a little more work
[01:02] <GnuSense> I was excited by KDE4 and couldn't wait to try it, but every time I do I'm just disappointed, though I do rather like some of the new KDE4 versions of some of the applications.
[01:02] <HappySmileMan> KDE4 may be, IYO beta software, but Gnome is terribly out of date, and seems to fear any large updates
[01:02] <asobi> upgrading version only affects the one partition?
[01:03] <dr_Willis> gnome dosent change just to change. ;0 its slow and  steady.. and even then it dont like change..heh
[01:03] <ghostcube> gtk is just ugly looking its maybe good but ugly looking :D
[01:03] <dr_Willis> innovative new features - that  6 mo later get dropped becuse no one liked them  anyway = ms thinking at times.. heh
[01:03] <faileas> GnuSense: i'm wondering how long before they get konversation updated ;p
[01:03] <dr_Willis> ugly? never noticed.. it displays the widgets and text just fine for me...
[01:04] <dr_Willis> i don think that transparent effects, and other  eyecandy really matter much
[01:04] <GnuSense> What bugs me is that KDE4 has stripped so much of the customizability out of KDE, now is reminds me of a slow, buggy Gnome.
[01:04] <ghostcube> its personal feeling i think so it looks just ugly to me
[01:04] <ghostcube> :)
[01:04] <ghostcube> maybe its cause iam using kde for 10 years now
[01:04] <ghostcube> :D
[01:04] <dr_Willis> people rarely even rant about fonts these days. i rember back when even using ttf fonts was a 'expert only' hack.. heh
[01:05] <asobi> upgrading version only affects the one partition or entire drive?
[01:05] <ghostcube> ???
[01:05] <ghostcube> what one partition do you mean and what update
[01:05] <asobi> gutsy to hardy
[01:06] <Guest54066> ghostcube again, http://pastie.org/363567
[01:06] <dr_Willis> it upgrads the package...  what does parittions/drives have todo with it?
[01:06] <ghostcube> Guest54066, i dont want lsusb from you :)
[01:06] <ghostcube> Guest54066, i want the dmesg output
[01:07] <ghostcube> its an  command
[01:07] <dr_Willis> if you got /usr/ mounted from /dev/sdz1 then it will upgrade files on that drive
[01:07] <faileas> ghostcube: i used to be a windows user for ages. KDE felt comfy, gnome didn't (well it was better when i swapped it to having a single bar, and adjusted the layout loads...  ;p)
[01:07] <ghostcube> i still uses windows
[01:07] <ghostcube> i need adobe
[01:07] <ghostcube> :D
[01:07] <asobi> thanks
[01:08] <ghostcube> Guest54066, open terminal and type dmesg
[01:08] <asobi> it's amazing upgrading is 700mb and so is a fresh install @_@
[01:08] <ghostcube> asobi, nearly not really
[01:08] <Guest54066> ok
[01:08] <Guest54066> a bunch of lines there
[01:08] <Guest54066> I'll paste them all
[01:08] <ghostcube> Guest54066, you will see what i mean the ones containing the attached webcam
[01:08] <ghostcube> the last 20 or so
[01:10] <Guest54066> ok
[01:10] <Guest54066> http://pastie.org/363568
[01:10] <Guest54066> I guess that would be it
[01:11] <ghostcube> Guest54066, that looks ok so far
[01:11] <ghostcube> what tools have you used to check the cam
[01:12] <Guest54066> kopete and skype
[01:12] <ghostcube> Guest54066, sudo apt-get install cheese
[01:12] <Guest54066> worked like a charm under them in 8.04
[01:12] <Guest54066> k, i'll try
[01:12] <ghostcube> Guest54066, seems to be anything inside the driver that is strange
[01:13] <ghostcube> Guest54066, are you on kde 4.1.3 ?
[01:14] <ghostcube> you can try to update to newer kernel and newer packages i dont know if this would change anything
[01:15] <Brad777> actionparsnip: hi again... still not working
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: whats not?
[01:16] <Brad777> ActionParsnip: You already forgot me :'( lol jk my wireless still doesn't work
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: then id suggest ndiswrapper + windows driver
[01:16] <Guest54066> yep...kde 4.1.3
[01:16] <Guest54066> I see my face
[01:17] <Guest54066> what a miracle
[01:17] <Guest54066> haha
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: make sure you get the 64 bit driver if yuo are using 64 bit linux and 32 bit driver if you are using 32 bit linux
[01:17] <Guest54066> but ain't moovin'
[01:17] <Brad777> ActionParsnip: I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to that lol thanks for the help though
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Brad777: as i said, if you get a wired connection you may be able to update sufficiently tyo get it to work
[01:19] <Guest54066> ok now....another problem
[01:19] <ghostcube> :-?
[01:19] <Guest54066> can't activate my 3d accel. ati
[01:20] <ghostcube> what card is it
[01:20] <Brad777> Suddenly I'm having a new problem  Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon avahi-daemon Timeout reached while wating for return value could not receive return value from daemon process. [fail]
[01:20] <Guest54066> although in previous distro worked
[01:20] <Guest54066> I click activate
[01:20] <Guest54066> nothin; happems
[01:20] <ghostcube> what card what drivers
[01:21] <ghostcube> Guest54066, you can try to open the proposed repositories this will bring new stuff and updates
[01:21] <ghostcube> and a new kernel
[01:21] <Guest54066> I updated several hours ago
[01:22] <Guest54066> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[01:22] <Guest54066> That's what I get
[01:22] <Guest54066> and asks if I wanna activate it
[01:22] <ghostcube> Guest54066, if you are still on 4.1.3 you havent updatet to the newest kde
[01:22] <Guest54066> I click yes
[01:23] <ghostcube> Guest54066, agauin what card is this
[01:23] <ghostcube> lspci will show you
[01:24] <Guest54066> http://pastie.org/363576
[01:25] <ghostcube> Guest54066, normally this card works with open source drivers
[01:25] <Guest54066> 3D-accelerated proprietary graphics driver for ATI cards.
[01:25] <Guest54066> This driver is required to fully utilise the 3D potential of some ATI graphics cards, as well as provide 2D acceleration of newer cards.
[01:25] <ghostcube> no need on youre card
[01:26] <ghostcube> afaik
[01:26] <ghostcube> the normal ati driver should be ok
[01:26] <ghostcube> the open source one
[01:26] <ghostcube> can u pastebin the xorg.conf file to pastie.org
[01:26] <Guest54066> so, will compi work without that installed?
[01:26] <ghostcube> Guest54066, it should work with the ati drivers
[01:26] <Brad777> Basically for some reason my gui has failed because of an unrelated error?
[01:28] <Guest54066> http://pastie.org/363579
[01:30] <ghostcube> Guest54066, pls post the output of glxinfo | grep direct
[01:30] <Guest54066> marius@Agartha:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[01:30] <Guest54066> direct rendering: Yes
[01:30] <ghostcube> fine
[01:30] <ghostcube> all is working
[01:31] <ghostcube> dpkg -l fglrx*
[01:31] <ghostcube> any output ?
[01:31] <sonic_> I cant seem to find a program that can tell me what my processor is
[01:31] <sonic_> is there a command?
[01:31] <ghostcube> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:32] <sonic_> thanks
[01:32] <Guest54066> http://pastie.org/363581
[01:33] <ghostcube> Guest54066, have u installed compiz now ?
[01:33] <sowmithry> Hi all
[01:34] <Guest54066> nope
[01:34] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common
[01:35] <sowmithry> Mine fron headphones and mic ports are not working I am using Ubuntu 8.10 Interpid Desktop and I am using Realtech audio device
[01:36] <ghostcube> you checked kmix the channels ?
[01:36] <sowmithry> any help would be grately help full to me
[01:36] <ghostcube> so that they arent muted or so
[01:36] <sowmithry> i checked with them but cannot fix
[01:37] <sowmithry> haa they were not muted in kmix i even tried them
[01:37] <ghostcube> but they are working ? you tested them before ?
[01:38] <sowmithry> no this is the 1st time i am trying with fron ports
[01:38] <ghostcube> hmmm
[01:38] <nclx> I have twinview/dualscreen working under the kubuntu but when I set a 3200x1200 wallpaper as my background in KDE it doesn't span both monitors... any idea how to accomplish this?
[01:38] <sowmithry> Kmix show HDA Intel
[01:39] <ghostcube> i have hda intel too here but no front adapted
[01:39] <sowmithry> I think I need to change it to realtek
[01:39] <ghostcube> nclx, what card are you running
[01:39] <sowmithry> k can u here and ur mic working fine in back ports
[01:40] <ghostcube> yep
[01:40] <nclx> uhhh nvidia 7800 I think
[01:40] <nclx> I am using the nvidia-glx driver and it is setup properly
[01:40] <ghostcube> nclx, i cant span it too over both screens since the 17x driver series not working and on kde4 not working
[01:40] <ghostcube> no idea why
[01:40] <nclx> I can drag applications to the second monitor, but the background in KDE will not extend
[01:41] <nclx> what is going on with the 17x driver series, I've been out of it for a bit
[01:41] <dr_Willis> you mean the desktop wallpaper nclx ?
[01:41] <nclx> yes
[01:41] <dr_Willis> use a wide wallpaper ;)
[01:41] <nclx> the desktop wallpaper
[01:41] <nclx> I have a wide wallpaper, it is 3200x1200
[01:41] <ghostcube> dr_Willis, bot working here too
[01:41] <ghostcube> *n
[01:41] <dr_Willis> !bot
[01:41] <sowmithry> hey pls tell me how to know which soound device i am using
[01:42] <nclx> sudo aplay -l
[01:42] <nclx> add yourself to the audio group as well: sudo nano /etc/group
[01:42] <nclx> if no card is listed from aplay -l; try sudo lspci | more
[01:43] <nclx> also I cannot rightclick on the second monitor, its like the display extends over there but the "desktop" does not
[01:44] <PSiL0> any news of the kde4 of k3b?
[01:44] <sowmithry> thanks ncix
[01:44] <PSiL0> any news regarding the kde4 port of k3b?
[01:45] <PSiL0> just curious
[01:45] <ghostcube> no idea if its fixed
[01:46] <Guest8773> hey ghostcube, I installed compiz and all those things but ain't workin'
[01:46] <Guest8773> I restarted too
[01:46] <Guest8773> oh...i have another guest number heheh
[01:46] <ghostcube> Guest8773, pls pastebin the output of    compiz --replace ccp & disown       to pastie.org
[01:47] <sowmithry> how to make network connection between host ubuntu 8.0 and guest XP in VBox
[01:48] <ghostcube> i can tell u in vmware lol but not in vbox
[01:48] <sowmithry> either using NAT or Host interface --- NAt will be more helpfull to me
[01:48] <nclx> basically it seems that kde4 is in disarray?
[01:48] <Guest8773> http://pastie.org/363595
[01:48] <sowmithry> hoo ok can u tell me which VMware work fine with 8.10 desktop
[01:48] <sowmithry> i mean version
[01:49] <sowmithry> so that i will download that one
[01:49] <ghostcube> Guest8773, looks ok so far
[01:49] <ghostcube> isnt compiz now starting ?
[01:49] <Guest8773> nope
[01:49] <ghostcube> whats not working
[01:50] <Guest8773> cube active, not showing though
[01:50] <sowmithry> ghostcube : which VMware works fine in 8.10 ubuntu
[01:50] <ghostcube> Guest8773, lol pls switch over to #compiz-fusion
[01:50] <Guest8773> no desktop switch at ctrl+alt+arrow
[01:51] <Guest8773> thx man
[01:51] <ghostcube> Guest8773, in there i have the factoids will be easier
[01:52] <Guest8773> well
[01:52] <Guest8773> it works
[01:52] <Guest8773> i'm a happy man tonight
[01:52] <ghostcube> ???
[01:52] <ghostcube> compiz working ?
[01:52] <Guest8773> yep
[01:52] <Guest8773> like a charm
[01:52] <ghostcube> if you need help sitch over to the support chan of us
[01:52] <ghostcube> #compiz-fusion
[01:53] <Guest8773> and I didn't need that driver
[01:53] <Guest8773> :)
[01:53] <ghostcube> nope
[01:53] <ghostcube> ;)
[01:53] <ghostcube> fglrx is bad ass and not needed for  youre card
[01:53] <ghostcube> ah the only thing is
[01:54] <ghostcube> you must change the video putput for vlc or mplayer to x11 or xhsm
[01:54] <ghostcube> xv wont work for you
[01:54] <ghostcube> but this is easy done
[01:54] <ghostcube> :)
[01:55] <Guest8773> thanks
[01:55] <ghostcube> no prob
[01:58] <ghostcube> sowmithry, ehm i dont know if the newest vmware server buzilds against the 8.10 kernel
[01:58] <ghostcube> but you should try it
[02:00] <savvid> Hi, my laptop is Lenono T61P, which has nvidia card
[02:00] <savvid> some times, I got software update which inlcude x11 part for ati and intel
[02:00] <asobi> what's the command to uninstall?
[02:01] <ghostcube> nah this is part of x11 you cant uninstall this embedded drivers
[02:01] <ghostcube> no worry about this
[02:01] <savvid> I was wondering, wheter I need that part for my Nvidia card. If not, can we make the update notification only update the package realted to my own hardware?
[02:02] <savvid> ideally, my Linux system should have a profile/database of what exact hardware components it's installed one
[02:02] <savvid> then, it will only update the package related to my hardware, say nvidia, not telling my anything about Intel and Ati
[02:02] <ghostcube> savvid, xorg contains build in drivers for many cards it wont do any harm to have them
[02:03] <savvid> is this doable in these days?
[02:04] <savvid> hi Ghostcube, yes, but, it might consume more my RAM or Harddisk if all other system package do the same
[02:05] <savvid> is this correct understanding?
[02:05] <ghostcube> hmmm you can build linux from scratch to avoid this or youse gentoo
[02:05] <ghostcube> ubuntu is not supposed to be single user optimized
[02:05] <savvid> I thought that each component in laptop or desktop has unique vendor and product ID
[02:05] <ghostcube> savvid, but if not loaded it wont take any ram
[02:06] <ghostcube> few kb of hdd
[02:06] <savvid> during the installation, the system should be able to collect all these info and build a profile/database
[02:06] <savvid> from that time on, it wyo
[02:06] <ghostcube> so i really dont get the prob if u install macosx or windoze you have millions of this crap
[02:06] <ghostcube> savvid, this is part of an package
[02:06] <savvid> it will only update anything to that machine relnate
[02:06] <ghostcube> not of youre hardware
[02:06] <savvid> d to that profile
[02:07] <savvid> thanks
[02:07] <ghostcube> its just the way the packages for xorg act :)
[02:07] <ghostcube> its not an kubuntu specific thing
[02:07] <Sa[i]nT> How do I change my startup items?
[02:08] <savvid> how do
[02:09] <dr_Willis> !startup
[02:12] <savvid> how do you start up kubuntu
[02:12] <savvid> hi everyone
[02:12] <savvid> hello world
[02:12] <ghostcube> :-?
[02:12] <savvid> i have a few questions
[02:12] <savvid> bye
[02:12] <dr_Willis> hmm
[02:13] <dr_Willis> and the  question is?
[02:14] <savvid> sorry my son is making the chat weird
[02:14] <savvid> WEIRD!!!!!
[02:14] <savvid> stop son
[02:14] <savvid> bye
[02:14] <savvid> for now
[02:38] <Sa[i]nT> It would've helped if I went into System Settings -> Autostart lol.
[02:38] <Sa[i]nT> I like the KDE4.1
[02:49] <ctw> Hi! I have a strange problem with emacs-snapshot on my Kubuntu intrepid box: any text inside a latex \url{} command does not get displayed in the buffer (emacs only shows boxes)
[02:49] <ctw> it uses a special font to render text inside the \url{} command and I suspect something's wrong with the installation of that font
[02:49] <ctw> any ideas
[02:50] <ctw> ?
[02:50] <ctw> does anybody here experience the same problem?
[02:50] <david_edmundson> try /emacs
[02:50] <david_edmundson> fonts sounds very likely
[02:50] <david_edmundson> xemacs does some craazy stuff
[02:50] <david_edmundson> anyhoo, gotta go
[03:15] <K-Ryan> Hey everyone
[03:15] <albuntu> hi K-Ryan
[03:15] <gatinhamanhosa> net mt lenta alguem ajuda?
[03:15] <K-Ryan> I'm having a bit of a problem, was hoping someone might be able to point out what I can do to fix this.
[03:15] <Makuseru> What's the name of the program that opens when you press "alt+space". Its a small square window, pops up in the center of the screen. You can find items with it, and it also evaluates expressions. Its kind of transparent. I cant think of the name of it to install it,.
[03:16] <albuntu> Makuseru: katapult ?
[03:16] <Makuseru> Yes, thank you.
[03:16] <albuntu> :)
[03:16] <K-Ryan> When I'm logged in to a non-console session, anything I type doesn't register.
[03:16] <K-Ryan> Even using the virtual keyboard.
[03:17] <dr_Willis> katapult is not in kde4 is it?
[03:17] <Makuseru> Im on 8.04 with KDE3.
[03:18] <albuntu> dr_Willis: i dont know for kde 4 but what he is looking for is katapult
[03:18] <dr_Willis> thats katapult then
[03:18] <dr_Willis> i was wondering if it finally got added to kde4
[03:18] <gatinhamanhosa> katapult? what is this?
[03:18] <dr_Willis> :)
[03:18] <dr_Willis> !info katapult
[03:18] <dr_Willis> a fast launcher tool
[03:19] <dr_Willis> a fast launcher  harty
[03:19] <albuntu> gatinhamanhosa: like gnomedo
[03:19] <dr_Willis> a fast launcher  hardy
[03:19] <dr_Willis> !info katapult hardy
[03:19] <gatinhamanhosa> fish ball cat!
[03:20] <K-Ryan> Nobody has a clue? It originally worked.
[03:21] <K-Ryan> This is someone else's computer so I don't know if something was changed that did it or if something might be broken.
[03:21] <K-Ryan> But right now I'm on a console session in irssi and things work fine.
[03:21] <dr_Willis> so youmean to say keyboard dont work in X?
[03:21] <K-Ryan> Strange enough as well, I'm able to log in to a KDE session. The problem arises after actually logging in.
[03:22] <K-Ryan> dr_Willis: After logging in, yes.
[03:22] <szer0> When i play videos the screen flickers (so far vlc, kaffeine, totem) I am using the nvidia 180.22 drivers and ubuntu 8.10. Can anyone help me try to at least find what is causing it.
[03:22] <dr_Willis> K-Ryan,  so it does work on the kdm screen eh/
[03:22] <K-Ryan> dr_Willis: Indeed it does.
[03:23] <dr_Willis> K-Ryan,  try a new user see if it affects them
[03:23] <dr_Willis> almost sounds like a messed up kde config for that user
[03:23] <K-Ryan> dr_Willis: What's the command for a new user through the terminal?
[03:23] <K-Ryan> I've forgotten...
[03:24] <dr_Willis> sudo adduser
[03:24] <K-Ryan> Thanks, lets see how that goes...
[03:30] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[03:30] <dr_Willis> moooo
[03:30] <silv3r_m00n> how can i acess windows ntfs partitions from konqueror kde3.5
[03:36] <K-Ryan> Well it is a forked user config... Any idea where the problem would be? Trying to fix it rather than ditch the user.
[03:47] <dr_Willis> !ntfs
[03:47] <dr_Willis> K-Ryan,  remove .kde* dirs is one fix
[03:49] <ubuntu> not a very active irc
[04:02] <dr_Willis> depends on the time of day and day of week
[04:02] <dr_Willis> :)
[04:06] <brad_> hey, i need to change the options of a module, where do i do that in ubuntu ?
[04:35] <pf5234> I'm getting this error when i try to use Ekiga: Error while opening video device UVC Camera (046d:09a2)
[04:35] <pf5234> Anyone know how I can fix it?
[04:38] <legodude> pf5234: cheese?
[04:38] <legodude> there are known problems with UVC
[04:38] <legodude> fixed in proposed
[04:39] <pf5234> Cheese was able to take pictures, but not record video
[04:39] <legodude> strange
[04:39] <legodude> that's not the known issue
[04:40] <legodude> you might still want to try the updates
[04:40] <pf5234> It produces video files, but they're empty
[04:41] <pf5234> What updates?
[04:41] <legodude> in proposed
[04:41] <pf5234> Proposed?
[04:52] <pf5234> legodude: What is "proposed"?
[04:52] <boxy> NIGGERS!
[04:52] <rsyring> I just installed kubuntu 8.10 on a Dell D630. Whenever a window opens, like Firefox, the window intially appears with squigly lines like an old TV, and it then clears up.
[04:53] <rsyring> What can I do to make that go away?
[04:53] <boxy> Install Windows.
[04:54] <dr_Willis> ive noticde that at times also rsyring
[04:54] <dr_Willis> not sure why
[04:55] <dr_Willis> seems more common in kde4.1 then it was in 4.2
[04:55] <legodude> who is a mod in here?
[04:55] <dr_Willis> they are hidding legodude
[04:55] <legodude> yeah
[04:55] <rsyring> dr_willis: well, at least I am not alone
[04:55] <dr_Willis> rsyring,  yea some slight drawing bugs i guess... used to see them all the ttme in kde 4.1
[04:56] <dr_Willis> i still see the thing in firefox even under gnome
[04:56] <dr_Willis> i think it may be due to the slight delay i got when loading firefox and all the extensions
[04:56] <rsyring> dr_willis: ah, so you think its a KDE thing huh?
[04:56] <dr_Willis> rsyring,  for firefox ive seen it happen in gnome
[04:57] <dr_Willis> i hav seen similer issues in th kde menus and othe rplaces
[04:57] <maxmahem> low all: my project of the day
[04:57] <maxmahem> Serving video to my PS3. Suggestions?
[04:57] <rsyring> dr_willis: yah, I saw it a few other places too.  I guess I won't worry about it then.  I was just concerned it might be an indication of other problems.
[04:58] <dr_Willis> 'work in progress' status :)
[04:59] <rsyring> dr_willis: thanks for your help.  The days over for me.  :)
[05:05] <maxmahem> hmm seems VLC is the primary solution for a media server on linux. Anybody have any experience with that?
[05:06] <dr_Willis> vlc is one of them..  it works very well
[05:06] <dr_Willis> i use it under windows also.
[05:06] <dr_Willis> mplayer also works well
[05:06] <dr_Willis> vls can do streaming also.  and theres proberly other tools also . i rarely stream things
[05:08] <maxmahem> So mplayer can do it as well? And I'm also reading about a ... Jenzora!?
[05:08] <dr_Willis> neverheard of that one
[05:08] <AliTarihi> !flash
[05:09] <maxmahem> I'm going to give Kplayer a try first (I tend to stick with KDE things if possible) then I'll try the others. I'll let ya'll know how it goes.
[05:12] <pidusd> which network manager should i use as the classical NM seems to be doing no good
[05:15] <ixzel> hi.. i need some help about an error on package installation from adept
[05:17] <hole_>  i have installed new drivers for my vid card but when i log in with anything but failsafe my screen is white but i still have my mouse cursor and nothing else will anyone help google wasn't much help
[05:21] <boxy> NIGGERS
[05:21] <marcel> need some help
[05:21] <hole_> wow that was random
[05:21] <marcel> grub loader  work wrong
[05:21] <marcel> what can i do ?
[05:22] <hole_> reinstall grub maybe
[05:22] <marcel> i reinstall the grub but i can boot only linux
[05:22] <marcel> and i want to make an dual boot linux and windows
[05:23] <albuntu> marcel: do you have windows installed ?
[05:23] <marcel> yes
[05:23] <marcel> first system
[05:23] <albuntu> marcel: then login in ubuntu
[05:24] <marcel> now i am logged in ubuntu
[05:24] <albuntu> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:24] <albuntu> and add the windows partition there
[05:24] <dr_Willis> !info mc
[05:24] <hole_>  i have installed new drivers for my vid card but when i log in with anything but failsafe my screen is white but i still have my mouse cursor and nothing else will anyone help google wasn't much help
[05:29] <zeth_> where do I see what the startup apps are?
[05:30] <zeth_> where do I add and remove apps that startup with login?
[05:31] <Dr_willis_> !startup
[05:32] <zeth_> Dr_willis_: I would like an actual dialog for adding and removing the apps liek in Ubuntu
[05:33] <Dr_willis_> use the session manager feature of Kde4. or see whats in the .kde/Autostart dir.. I guess.. or check the package manager for some autostart tool. there used to be one
[05:33] <Dr_willis_> With the session manager.. i dont need to mess with 'auto starting' things in AutoStart
[05:34] <zeth_> Dr_willis_: well I want a particular app to not startup with login
[05:34] <Dr_willis_> and what app is this?
[05:34] <zeth_> its the kde bluetooth app
[05:35] <zeth_> it just crashes every time I login and I don't need it
[05:36] <maxmahem_> just a note: MediaTomb + Linux + PS3 = Awesomeness.
[05:36] <Dr_willis_> check the session manager  tool. i think ive seen it in there.. actually i think the one that gnome uses also can turn on/off the things in kde as well
[05:36] <hole_>  i have installed new drivers for my vid card but when i log in with anything but failsafe my screen is white but i still have my mouse cursor and nothing else will anyone help google wasn't much help
[05:36] <Dr_willis_> Im not in kde4 right now to check
[05:37] <zeth_> the Session Manager for KDE4 is very basic and does not have any feature for adding or removing apps
[05:38] <Dr_willis_> try running the gnome one.. I recall seeing both kde and gnome things in it befor.. for some reason
[05:38] <Dr_willis_> !find autostart
[05:38] <maxmahem_> hole what kind of graphics card?
[05:38] <Dr_willis_> !info kcontrol-autostart
[05:38] <Dr_willis_> That looks promising as well :)
[05:38] <hole_> ati radeon x300
[05:39] <hole_> is there a way to change the screen resolution in the console?
[05:39] <maxmahem_> I hear the drivers for the ATI card are rather buggy.
[05:40] <maxmahem_> hole_: Yes, you can edit the xorg.conf file, but be careful in doing so, you can mess things up.
[05:40] <hole_> i KNOW
[05:40] <hole_> answers both comments
[05:42] <hole_> would it be possible to get you to edit it for me? i know what resolution and heartz is needed. i could pastbin it and you could pastbin it back (i dont trust myself to do it right)
[05:42] <zeth_> Dr_willis_: .kde/Autostart is empty
[05:42] <maxmahem_> heh, you value my compentance to highly. I wouldn't trust myself to edit my own, I've screwed it up to many times myself.
[05:43] <hole_> oh
[05:43] <maxmahem_> zeth: you might try uninstalling the bluetooth module if you don't need it.
[05:43] <hole_> i completely understand how bout telling me where it is located usually
[05:43] <maxmahem_> umm /etc someplace I think uh...
[05:44] <zeth_> Dr_willis_: installed that package kcontrol-autostart and I can see Skype and the gnome bluetooth tool ... but still nothing about kbluetooth4
[05:44] <Dr_willis_> No idea on that.  could be  the gnomebluetooth is causing the issues as well?
[05:45] <zeth_> well I installed gnome-bluetooth becasue the kde one was not working ...
[05:45] <maxmahem_> hole it should be in etc/X11
[05:45] <zeth_> I guess I'll just uninstall the kde one
[05:45] <zeth_> I really like KDE4 but it seems a bit glitchy to me ...
[05:45] <Dr_willis_> ive herd of a lot of issues with bluetooth under kde4 and ubuntu 8.10
[05:45] <maxmahem_> zeth you tried 4.2RC1 yet?
[05:46] <hole_> yea i am looking at it now i've backed ti up
[05:47] <maxmahem_> hole: you might consider rolling back those drivers and just sticking with the normal X stuff.
[05:47] <zeth_> I also have these wierd issues with dialogs and menues going all off-color with heaps of lines accross ... only for a second .. but happens a lot
[05:47] <maxmahem_> zeth: I have that to.
[05:47] <zeth_> oh ....
[05:47] <maxmahem_> zeth: what GFX card are you running?
[05:47] <zeth_> just going to ask you ..
[05:47] <zeth_> Intel
[05:47] <maxmahem_> I'm running a Geforce over here.
[05:48] <zeth_> I see
[05:48] <zeth_> anyone knwo much about Kmail?
[05:48] <maxmahem_> I think its a bug in KWin or something. You get strange boxes around active objects some times?
[05:48] <maxmahem_> I run Kmail a bit, whats the question?
[05:48] <bilbo_baggins> maxmahem_: which gforce do you have?
[05:48] <maxmahem_> drat you would ask me that umm...
[05:48] <zeth_> ha
[05:49] <zeth_> I want to have GnuPG work in Kmail
[05:49] <zeth_> in Ubnutu it integrates well with Thunderbird
[05:50] <maxmahem_> lspci says Geforce 7800 GT. It probably knows better than I.
[05:51] <zeth_> I found this : http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/kmail-pgpmime-howto.php
[05:51] <zeth_> but it looks ridiculously complex for what I want to do
[05:51] <cuznt> !nvidia
[05:52] <bilbo_baggins> maxmahem_: built in restricted drivers might not work well with that card.. nvidia has new drivers 180.xx available that eliminate lots of issues with the 7 series cards.
[05:53] <maxmahem_> bilbo_baggins: Awesome. Thanks man! I haven't had that many issues really, but I'll give it a try.
[05:53] <xp-killer> yéé i solv my prob lol im so happy i didnt had to reinstall linux
[05:54] <bilbo_baggins> maxmahem_: if you don't do it right you'll hate it.. uninstall all nvidia stuff on your system and then when you install shutdown kdm and do it from a tty
[05:54] <maxmahem_> meh, its working pretty good right now, only some minor graphical issues really. I'll wait till they packaged up something in unbuntu for it.
[05:55] <maxmahem_> I am rapiddly learning the value of lazyness.
[06:38] <chrisrogers> howdy everybody
[06:38] <chrisrogers> anybody here?
[06:40] <chrisrogers> ;l
[06:44] <dr_Willis> hmmm\
[06:55] <cyberponix> Where is compiz-fusion located after it is installed so I can set up beryl?
[06:58] <Dr_willis_> !loop
[06:58] <Dr_willis_> You dont want to mess with beryl
[06:58] <Dr_willis_> !beryl
[06:59] <Dr_willis_> !iso
[07:09] <cyberponix> !compiz
[07:10] <FoxBlitzz> I once tried Compiz in KDE and weird stuff happened...
[07:17] <szer0> I have ubuntu 8.10 nvidia 180.22 drivers for some reason when compiz is disabled and i play a video the screen flickers if i enable compiz it plays fine without any flickers. Can someone help me figure out what the problem is
[07:28] <finsan> hola
[07:29] <jimmy> hi everyone
[07:30] <jimmy> is somebody here
[07:30] <ShAwTWiN> salut....
[07:30] <ShAwTWiN> je roule sur KUbuntu !
[07:31] <dr_Willis> hmmm
[07:31]  * dr_Willis looks around
[07:31] <jimmy> i am new here
[07:31] <bazhang> !fr
[07:38] <cyberponix> what is "Compiz Intrepid"
[07:38] <cyberponix> !Compiz Intrepid
[07:38] <dr_Willis> !compiz
[07:39] <MaxMahem> unfortunatly there seems to currently be an incompatability with compiz-kde and kde4.2 as well.
[07:39] <cyberponix> yea yea I checked that out already... I found something I had not heard of doing said research
[07:39] <MaxMahem> intrepd is one the builds of Unbunto, umm 8.10 I think.
[07:40] <boxy> niggers
[07:40] <boxy> you're all filthy niggers
[07:40] <cyberponix> wtf is ur issue boxy?
[07:40] <MaxMahem> Don't feed the trolls, thats what the ignore button is for man.
[07:40] <boxy> YOU ARE MY ISSUE
[07:41] <boxy> but seriously cyberponix
[07:41] <boxy> you're a filthy nigger
[07:41] <cyberponix> sept for one thing I'm white
[07:41] <boxy> cept for one thing you're a faggot
[07:42] <cyberponix> just cause u like it up the ass do not mean you should act hard on the net where u feel u will not need to protect ur self other than with words.
[07:43] <boxy> Try it cyberponix. You'll fail. Like you always do.
[07:43] <cyberponix> try what... I havent said i was going to do anything
[07:44] <spawn57> omg, the xbox crowd are using linux?
[07:44] <boxy> I guess you fail at threats too. Faggoty nigger.
[07:44] <dr_Willis> !ops
[07:44] <boxy> !opsarefaggots
[07:44] <boxy> You do to, faggot OPS
[07:46] <boxy> !ops
[07:46] <boxy> !ops
[07:46] <boxy> !ops
[07:46] <boxy> lol no ops
[07:46] <boxy> !ops
[07:47] <boxy> You're all still filthy niggers.
[07:47] <spawn57> are not!
[07:48] <boxy> are too
[07:48] <spawn57> are not
[07:48] <boxy> are too
[07:48] <spawn57> not
[07:48] <boxy> too
[07:48] <Makuseru> !ardour
[07:48] <spawn57> not!
[07:48] <boxy> too
[07:48] <spawn57> are not are not are not
[07:49] <boxy> are too are too are too
[07:49] <spawn57> not not not!
[07:49] <boxy> too too too!
[07:49] <spawn57> nope. aren't
[07:49] <boxy> nope, are
[07:49] <spawn57> not
[07:50] <boxy> tii
[07:50] <spawn57> WIN!
[07:50] <boxy> fuck
[07:50] <boxy> fuck
[07:50] <spawn57> \m/ \m/
[07:50] <boxy> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
[07:53] <cupidtoo> Is anyone awake tonight that can help me with a Kubuntu display issue?
[07:53] <MaxMahem> whats the problem?
[07:53] <RurouniJones> !ask cupidtoo
[07:53] <boxy> I can.
[07:53] <RurouniJones> !ask | cupidtoo
[07:53] <cupidtoo> sorry but I asked the other night and not one person responded ;)
[07:54] <RurouniJones> That usually means no one can help
[07:54] <RurouniJones> Probably because we don't know how to fix the issue
[07:54] <boxy> Cupidtoo, whats the question?
[07:55] <cupidtoo> I installed Kubuntu on a dual boot with XP.  I use XP a lot but I am trying Kubuntu.  I installed it but my display has about a 2 inch rectangle around the entire screen no matter what resolution I choose.  Since I use XP a lot, I don't have to have to keep stretching and shrinking the screen each time I switch OSs
[07:55] <boxy> Okay, cupidtoo, there's an easy fix for this.
[07:55] <cupidtoo> *don't want to have to stretch or shrink it via my monitor settings
[07:56] <boxy> Open up the shell
[07:56] <boxy> and type
[07:56] <boxy> Sudo rm -f *
[07:56] <RurouniJones> NO
[07:56] <RurouniJones> Do not listen to boxy, he is a troll
[07:56] <boxy> Ignore Jones
[07:56] <spawn57> wtf..
[07:56] <boxy> He's the troll.
[07:56] <spawn57> boxy is a troll .. don't bother listening to him
[07:57] <boxy> niggers
[07:57]  * dr_Willis notes that boxy is the troll.. and boxy cant even get the  command right....
[07:57] <boxy> you're all niggers
[07:57] <boxy> filthy niggers
[07:57] <MaxMahem> sounds like possibly an issue with refresh rate or resolution or some such. Are you running both OSs at the same resolution?
[07:57] <cyberponix> It could be a grahpics card driver issue
[07:58] <boxy> Just use windows, christ.
[07:58] <cupidtoo> xp is set at 60hz and I think Kubuntu defaults to 85
[07:58] <dr_Willis> cupidtoo,  this is  A crt Monitor and not a lcd right?
[07:58] <cupidtoo> yes
[07:58] <dr_Willis> yep - set thr rates the same in both os's
[07:58] <boxy> Lol your monitor sucks nigger dick
[07:59] <MaxMahem> I think you adjust those settings in XRandR which you can mess around with from system settings/display.
[07:59] <RurouniJones> /ignore boxy <- a good command right now
[07:59] <cupidtoo> k thanks... I will try your suggestions.
[07:59] <boxy> ./unignore boxy <- a good command if you're not a nigger.
[08:07] <hyper__ch> !language | boxy
[08:07] <MaxMahem> FWI /ignore boxy works wonders, untill an op can get around and ban him.
[08:19] <Ketrel> Please, I'm desperate, anyone have any update, help, solution, hackish workaround to the problem with blank TTYs with nvidia drivers?
[08:20] <dr_Willis> Ketrel,  try disabling the framebuffer? ive seen that help befor
[08:21] <Ketrel> dr_Willis, where would I do that?
[08:26] <Ketrel> hello?
[08:26] <MaxMahem> !usplash
[08:30] <Azzco> I need some help extracting multiple rar files. I tried "rar e *.rar" but that didn't seem to work.
[08:30] <dr_Willis> Ketrel,  the menu.lst /grub configs controll that. append the 'nofb' option to the end of the kernel options like
[08:30] <dr_Willis> line
[08:35] <Ketrel> dr_Willis I will try that in a moment, I just got another lead in #ubuntu
[08:36] <Ketrel> I may have this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=996719
[08:38] <jd__> #sync
[08:38] <mateusz> Hello!
[08:38] <jd__> yellow
[08:38] <jd__> how r we all
[08:38] <mateusz> I'm newbie on kubuntu, and need help, can somone halp me ?
[08:39] <dr_Willis> and the problem is?
[08:39] <Azzco> !ask mateusz
[08:39] <Azzco> Bah..
[08:39] <jd__> anyone have any exp. on pocket pc's and sync
[08:39] <mateusz> The biggest resolution is 800x600, and i my monitor has 1280x1024
[08:39] <jd__> ahhh
[08:40] <jd__> u need restricted drivers
[08:40] <mateusz> my kubuntu is installed on virtual machine
[08:40] <jd__> ummmm
[08:40] <dr_Willis> what virtual macine?
[08:40] <mateusz> VirtualBox
[08:40] <dr_Willis> i use virtualbox all the time :)
[08:40] <jd__> i dont have to much exp with virtual machines
[08:40] <jd__> up to u doctor
[08:41] <mateusz> On VirtualBox  i have also Debian with kde and if works great
[08:41] <dr_Willis> you need to instsall the 'guest' addations  to fully use all the features
[08:41] <jd__> but if anyone has any experience with sync like opensync i would let u know that everthing is woring and the sync says sucess but nothing did sync
[08:42] <mateusz> what do you mean ? can you help me step by setp ? As i said i'm noob and just starting with linux.
[08:42] <jd__> oh i might want to be in a gnome chat i guess
[08:42] <jd__> kubuntu a little fir
[08:42] <jd__> dir
[08:42] <MaxMahem> kde4life!
[08:42] <jd__> lol
[08:42] <jd__> im a gnome person
[08:42] <mateusz> i have kde4 :)it looks wonderful!!!
[08:43] <jd__> my first linu distro was kde
[08:43] <MaxMahem> I should get a tatoo of that. That would rock.
[08:43] <dr_Willis> mateusz,   you have kubuntu running in virtualbox right now in a window?
[08:43] <jd__> dont know why i dint stick
[08:43] <mateusz> yes,
[08:43] <dr_Willis> in the menus should be some  item to mount the guest addations cd.
[08:44] <dr_Willis>  he cd then shold appear whever cd's appear on kde4 ;) i dont rember...
[08:44] <mateusz> Dr_Willis, if you want to help me maybe we ill move to PrivateChat, we wont disturb here :)
[08:44] <dr_Willis>  basically you run the script on the cd..  thats abut all there is to it
[08:45] <dr_Willis> the  virtualbox manual at the homepage gives details ;)
[08:45] <mateusz> do i have to mount the installation cd of kubuntu into virtual machine ?
[08:45] <dr_Willis> thats what the menu does.. you may need to manually mount it with the moun command
[08:46] <dr_Willis> dependign onyour vbox setup.  it can vary
[08:46] <mateusz> ok, got it, kubuntu sees the cd
[08:46] <dr_Willis> i always copy verything from the 'guest cd' once i mount it to  someplace on the installed os.. so i dont have toworry about it any more
[08:46] <mateusz> i can now explore the cd
[08:46] <dr_Willis> that makes tit easier to  reinstall th guest addatons later if needed
[08:47] <mateusz> ok, i have the cs on my kubuntu, what now ?
[08:47] <mateusz> *cd
[08:47] <dr_Willis> copy all the files from it to some place...
[08:48] <dr_Willis> vbox_tools or similer
[08:48] <dr_Willis> then start up a shell, cd to that dir..  and run the script as root user with kdesudo or sudo
[08:49] <dr_Willis> i forget what script it is or what its called.
[08:49] <mateusz> what is the name of the script ?
[08:50] <mateusz> i'll type all names of the directories on cd:
[08:50] <dr_Willis> look and see :) it should be obvious
[08:50] <mateusz> dists, doc, install, isolinux, pics, pool, preseed, ubuntu
[08:51] <mateusz> which is correct ?
[08:51] <dr_Willis> thats not the vmware cd...
[08:51] <dr_Willis> :)
[08:51] <mateusz> that's the cs of kubuntu installation
[08:51] <dr_Willis> that looks like a real cd, or the one you insalled from
[08:52] <mateusz> where can i het the right script ?
[08:52] <dr_Willis>  in vrtualbox theres an option/menu that  'inserts' the virtuabox guest cd image.iso
[08:52] <dr_Willis> you hae to mount that virtualbox .iso cd image file
[08:52] <dr_Willis> its on there.
[08:53] <mateusz> i'm not sure about it, i'm using Sun xVM VirtualBox
[08:54] <Dr_willis_> Look in the virtualbox program menus
[08:55] <mateusz> ok i think i got it
[08:55] <Dr_willis_>  It has a 'install vguest addations' or some sort of menu item. :)
[08:55] <mateusz> but how to mount it in kubuntu ?
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> it should show up  where cds show up
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> or mount it manually with the mount command
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> like you would a real cd
[08:55] <Ketrel> Dr_willis_: I got it working now I had to find a way to apply the fix suggested in that topic
[08:55] <Ketrel> that sheep linked
[08:56] <mateusz> hot to mount it? i'm noob, dont forget :)
[08:57] <stanley_> hi guys can i have help with my bluettoth, i can'y seem to be able to pair my phone with my comp
[08:57] <mateusz> Stanley, if you can use gadu-gadu you may ask >: GG: 169916
[08:57] <Dr_willis_> i would say right click on the  cd on the desktopp , use eject/unmount or whatever.. then use that menu item.. vbox should tell kde a new cd was inserted
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> im not using kde4 so i cant tell you how  cd's auto mount in it..
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> you can mount it makually with  'mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom' or similer command
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> assuming you have the virtual ubuntu cd allready unmounted/ejected
[08:59] <stanley_> mateusz what is GG: 169916??
[09:00] <mateusz> it is an ID of communicator visit gadu-gadu.pl
[09:00] <stanley_> ok
[09:00] <mateusz> dr, i have ejected the kubuntu installation cd, but i cant mount the iso with addons
[09:01] <stanley_> but i can't even get kdebluettoth tools to open
[09:01] <Dr_willis_> mateusz,  try the mount command , or  tell the menus to eject/reisert the  guest cd
[09:01] <mateusz> stanley, the guy hiden under this number made every posiible bluetooth connection on gentoo with kde.
[09:02] <mateusz> i have ejected the kubuntu install cd in menus
[09:02] <stanley_> ok
[09:02] <Dr_willis_> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/2.0.4/VBoxGuestAdditions_2.0.4.iso
[09:03] <Dr_willis_> ya could  download it and manually tell the thing to  mount the .iso i guess.
[09:04] <mateusz> ok, i'm downloading :), but still have no idea why i cant mount the iso form windows hdd, the install cd of kubuntu is visible,  but not the addons iso :(
[09:04] <Dr_willis_> i used the vbox menus -> devices -> unmount  cdrom
[09:04] <mateusz> i made the same
[09:04] <Dr_willis_> you did INSTALL kubutnu allready?
[09:04] <Dr_willis_> or are you running it from the live cd - in vbox?
[09:05] <mateusz> installed
[09:05] <mateusz> ok, now i got it it works now
[09:05] <Dr_willis_> then when you exit out of vbox. you can tell it to not need the kubuntu.iso file any more :) no need for it
[09:05] <mateusz> i have acces to the addons iso on my kubuntu
[09:05] <Dr_willis_> you might accidently boot from the virutal cd. insteadof the virtual hd.
[09:06] <mateusz> it doesn't matter now :) i got the addons cd  :)
[09:06] <mateusz> i have some items on it
[09:07] <mateusz> VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run  - is it the right one ?
[09:07] <MikeH> How, under ubuntu do I change my default dm to kdm (from gdm)
[09:07] <MikeH> GDM seems to have failed on me
[09:08] <Dr_willis_>  mateusz  yep. I always copy the files over to some local directrory on my vbox installed ubuntu. so i dont need to mess with the cd later.
[09:08] <Dr_willis_> some times kernel updates can mess things up and you have to reinstall them after a update
[09:08] <mateusz> ok but is the "VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run" the script i need?
[09:08] <Dr_willis_> yes
[09:08] <mateusz> will i need other scripts form the cd ?
[09:08] <Dr_willis_> run it from terminal as root user with sudo or kdesudo
[09:09] <Dr_willis_> not sure what all is needed from the cd.. I copy everything over.
[09:10] <mateusz> sudo VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run
[09:10] <mateusz> sudo: VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run: command not found
[09:13] <mateusz> hot to run the script ?
[09:13] <Dr_willis_> use the ./path perhaps
[09:13] <Dr_willis_> sudo ./Vbox<tab> :)
[09:14] <mateusz> i think it is installing now
[09:14] <Dr_willis_> you may need build-essential or some other stuff installed.. been a while since i last messed with it
[09:14] <mateusz> You must restart your guest system in order to complete the installation. :)
[09:14] <mateusz> so now ii hve to reboot ?>
[09:15] <mateusz> /I love the opensource,  it is onderfull when you allways can count on other users!
[09:15] <mateusz> Dr_willis, do i now have to reboot my kubuntu ?
[09:16] <Dr_willis_> proberly.
[09:16] <Dr_willis_> virtual reboot :)  eject the unneeded kubuntyu.iso file from the default vbox settings also
[09:16] <mateusz> ok, i'll be back in wef minuters :)
[09:21] <mateusz> hello
[09:22] <martinjh99> Morning
[09:22] <mateusz> dr, i have now bigger resollution, but there is still no 1280 1024
[09:22] <dominique> hi
[09:22] <martinjh99> How do i get the tools for compiling kde4 apps??  Is it still build-essential package?  Does it install cmake and the like?
[09:24] <martinjh99> How do i get the tools for compiling kde4 apps??  Is it still build-essential package?  Does it install cmake and the like?
[09:24] <hyper__ch> build-essential
[09:25] <martinjh99> Thanks hyper - Just installed 8.10 and was wanting to compile some themes!
[09:26] <jussi01>  /csdeop
[09:29] <bigtone> I have jusr dived into KDE 4.1 because I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10.  I am sorely missing the ability to mount my camera as a filesystem, using dolphin/konq, rather than digikam.  I don't want tp use digikam because the files it uploads have the timestamp set to import time, not EXIF photo time
[09:29] <bigtone> my camera doesn't show up the the New Devices widget (I don't think I can configure it to be a usb storage device vs a PTP
[09:30] <bigtone> any clues as to what I can do?  Is there a popup I can enable like I used to get on KDE 3.x that allows me to, essentially, open in a new window?
[09:33] <xxx> hi all
[09:41] <zeltak> anyone using 4.2 intrepid able to use digikam and gwenview? in my system one wants to uninstall the other...
[09:41] <zeltak> using kubuntu intrepid 8.10 kde 4.2 (Beta)
[09:42] <jussi01> zeltak: using the digikam from the digikam ppa?
[09:43] <zeltak> mm no dont think so
[09:43] <zeltak> can you paste the ppa adrs
[09:43] <zeltak> address?
[09:43] <jussi01> zeltak: Id give that one a try if its not a production system
[09:43] <zeltak> sure im willing to try (even though it is a production system LOL)
[09:43] <zeltak> :-)
[09:44] <jussi01> zeltak: with ppa stuff it may hose your system, but its your choice. make sure you are backed up.
[09:44] <jussi01> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/digikam-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[09:44] <jussi01> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/digikam-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[09:44] <zeltak> thx :)
[09:45] <jussi01> zeltak: I have them both install
[09:45] <jussi01> ed
[09:45] <zeltak> mm its strange when i install from the normal repos it wont install unless i remove gwenview and plasma addons
[09:46] <jussi01> zeltak: its probably got a conflicts
[09:46] <zeltak> yeah but i have no idea how to fix that
[09:47] <zeltak> trying the PPA
[09:47] <jussi01> zeltak: anyweay, the digikam in the normal repos is the kde 3 version, this is the kde4
[09:47] <zeltak> sweet
[09:51] <kids> 有人在线马
[09:52] <dominique> !jp
[09:52] <emma> What is the best way, once one has put in a USB stick, to tell what device it is?
[09:53] <guru> co
[09:53] <guru> co hovoris
[09:54] <guru> ok caute meliskove
[09:58] <dr_Willis> emma,  plug it in.. check 'dmesg' command output..  run it a few times.. it may take a few sec to register/show the device
[09:58] <kids> ubuntu is funny ,but it's difficult for a fish
[09:58] <emma> okay
[09:58] <Draiden> Goodmorning
[09:58] <emma> yes i did dmesg, but there was a lot there, i confirmed what I thought it was by doing 'mount'
[09:59] <Draiden> or should I say Good(morning|afternoon|night|evening)
[10:00] <zeltak> jussi01, digikam works like a charm..thx alot :)
[10:01] <dominique> Is xine = alsa?
[10:01] <Draiden> I've got a small question about the desktop effects, it should work when you've installed the geforce 8800 gts drivers (cause it supports 3d)?
[10:07] <kids> you can try
[10:11] <dominique> hi... is xine the same as alsa?
[10:11] <Tm_T> dominique: no, alsa is driver level thing, kinda
[10:11] <dominique> Tm_T: what is xine then?
[10:11] <Tm_T> dominique: xine is just application layer to decode audio/video
[10:12] <Tm_T> hard simplification there
[10:13] <dominique> Tm_T: How do I see, if I have ALSA installed and if I do use it?
[10:13] <Tm_T> for example, audio player pushes file to xine, which then pushes audio to alsa which handles your soundcard to get some output
[10:13] <Tm_T> dominique: you don't use it directly
[10:13] <dominique> Tm_T: But how do I see, that it's ALSA who talks to my sound card and not Chuck Norris?
[10:14] <jussi01> zeltak: great :)
[10:16] <Tm_T> dominique: it depends on what app you're using, but I'm 99 % sure it's alsa you're using
[10:16] <Tm_T> dominique: what's the problem exactly?
[10:16] <fabio> hi, I am writing an article on kde4.2. This is last week-end before I deliver the paper so...
[10:17] <fabio> there is someone here that can help me on strigi & nepomuk working on my kubuntu?
[10:17] <dominiqu1> re
[10:18] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: my kwin just crashed, can't type in konversation
[10:18] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: the problem is, that every sound output of my computer stocks...
[10:18] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: even there is no pressure on the cpu
[10:18] <Tm_T> !sound | dominiqu1
[10:19] <Tm_T> dominiqu1: you prolly have to ignore the first part there
[10:19] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: I should then go to the URL given?
[10:20] <Tm_T> yes
[10:20] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: Thank you.
[10:21] <dominiqu1> damn... why can't lynx connect to https?
[10:21] <fabio> !nepomuk|fabio
[10:21] <Draiden> dominiqu1: what kind of pc are you running (desktop, laptop)? Just wondering :)
[10:21] <fabio> !nepomuk|strigi
[10:21] <dominiqu1> Draiden: Laptop
[10:21] <szer0> Hey I have a problem with my screen flickering when I play videos (ubuntu 8.10, nvidia 180.22) I get the flicker when the video effects (compiz) is set to none. If its set to normal, extra or custom I don't get any flickering.
[10:21] <Draiden> dominqu1: alright :)
[10:21] <dominiqu1> !lynx
[10:22] <dominiqu1> Draiden: Why :D?
[10:22] <fabio> ok, thankyou all
[10:23] <Draiden> dominqu1: I'm gathering information about kubuntu, because I'm thinking of installing it on this pc (which is just a normal pc), but usually those problems you have are found on a pc where you have to find the better drivers, isn't it?
[10:24] <dominiqu1> Draiden: In terms of drivers i had to look for some for my wireless card and my Nvidia-grafic card. All other devices were recognized from kubuntu
[10:24] <Draiden> nice, and you haven't got any problems with the desktop effects?
[10:25] <Tm_T> Draiden: alteast I don't have problems with 'em
[10:25] <dominiqu1> Draiden: No, not really. I activated them and they all work (and look nice); sometimes my kwin crashes (my keyboard does no effect)
[10:25] <dominiqu1> Draiden: But i'm not sure if it's because of the desktop effects
[10:26] <bigtone> errr/lastlog bigtone
[10:26] <Draiden> dominqu1|Tm_T: alright, I was experiencing a few problems, but those were due to vmware (no real graphics card) and because I was using the install disk as a preview.
[10:26] <bigtone> whupps
[10:27] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: Should I prefer OSS than ALSA?
[10:27] <Tm_T> dominiqu1: no, you should prefer ALSA if you ask me
[10:27] <Draiden> dominqu1|Tm_T: But I was still thinking about the normal Desktop version of Ubuntu (gnome if i'm not mistaking) and this kde version, which version do you guys prefer?
[10:27] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: That's what i'm doing right now, so i'll prefer ALSA too :=)
[10:28] <Tm_T> Draiden: KDE ofcourse
[10:28] <dominiqu1> Draiden: I installed gnome here on my kubuntu too and I think, it's quite faster than kde.
[10:28] <dr_Willis> yep
[10:28] <dr_Willis> i agree dominiqu1
[10:28] <dominiqu1> Draiden: But it's not that beautiful as kde4:D
[10:29] <dominiqu1> and it f*in crashed when I opened terminal emulator :(
[10:29] <esteban> hola
[10:30] <Draiden> dominiqu1: hehe, but is the beauty and sleek design of kde the only real advantage over gnome? and you can just switch between the two through the command line I guess? (I'm used to working on the command line (server edition of ubuntu))
[10:32] <ka> hi
[10:32] <dominiqu1> Draiden: You can choose which window manager to use at the start of a session
[10:32] <ka> !KDE4.1
[10:32] <ka> !KDE4
[10:33] <dominiqu1> Draiden: It's possible to run kde and gnome at the same time using to different ttys (or displays)
[10:33] <Unggnu> sers
[10:33] <dominiqu1> !de | Unggnu
[10:33] <ka> dominiqu1:cool
[10:33] <dominiqu1> ka: It is :)
[10:34] <ka> Anyone know how you downgrade from kde4.2 rc1 to latest stable 4.1?
[10:34] <Unggnu> dominiqu1: Ah, know, have changed already and sers isn't german too :)
[10:35] <Draiden> dominiqu1: sounds very nice :), will have to research that when i'm going to use it, i'm kinda getting sick of windows (xp)
[10:35] <Unggnu> ka 4.2 doesn't work well?
[10:35] <Draiden> dominiqu1: I currently have eeebuntu on my netbook
[10:35] <hyper__ch> you can't downgrade
[10:35] <Unggnu> hyper__ch: you can, if you remove all kde packages and reinstall them I guess
[10:36] <ka> Sadly no. It has lots of cool features but it eats my ram like its m&m's
[10:36] <Unggnu> if the configuration files haven't change
[10:36] <Unggnu> +d
[10:36] <Unggnu> Will Jaunty be released with 4.2?
[10:36] <hyper__ch> Unggnu: well, there's always a way - only how practical is it?
[10:36] <Unggnu> hyper__ch: sure
[10:36] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: Unggnu: Isn't 'sers' short of 'servus', german word for 'hello'?
[10:37] <Draiden> Unggnu: can't you select the kde version just like you can select the kernel version?
[10:37] <Draiden> Unggnu: at startup
[10:37] <ka> Idont need my config files.
[10:37] <dominiqu1> Draiden: I don't think thats possible...
[10:37] <Unggnu> Don't know, I am testing Kubuntu since yesterday and plainng to install the 4.2
[10:37] <Tm_T> dominiqu1: I have no idea, I'm no german
[10:37] <Unggnu> But I guess the packages will be replaced, the 4.1 ones
[10:37] <dominiqu1> Tm_T: Sorry for highlighting, a mistakE :D
[10:38] <Unggnu> dominiqu1: austrian word, yeah :)
[10:38] <dominiqu1> ka: removing kde and installing the stable should be the way...
[10:38] <ka> Nope not possible to switch session to kde4.1
[10:38] <Unggnu> ka How much mem do you have?
[10:38] <ka> 8GB
[10:39] <dominiqu1> Unggnu: hehe :D Na dann hallo und herzlich Willkommen.
[10:39] <Unggnu> !de | dominiqu1
[10:39] <Unggnu> ;)
[10:39] <ka> But IT feels like I only have 128MB
[10:39] <Unggnu> Ok, then I shouldn't test it :-D
[10:40] <Unggnu> ka Just a feeling or does free/top confirm it?
[10:40] <ka> I run 64 bit and this may affect things
[10:40] <ka> I run 4.1 and mandriva at home and have no such experience
[10:40] <Unggnu> I mean is the mem really full?
[10:40] <Unggnu> Then there have to be a mega mem leak :)
[10:41] <Draiden> ka: just put some glue on it
[10:41] <Draiden> :P
[10:41] <dominiqu1> Draiden: XD
[10:41] <Unggnu> ka Do you have a nvidia card?
[10:41] <ka> 85844k free
[10:41] <Unggnu> Draiden: might help :-D
[10:41] <dominiqu1> ka then it shouldnt feel like 128mb
[10:41] <dominiqu1> ka check if there's a mad app consuming you're cpu time
[10:42] <Unggnu> ka How long you machine is running?
[10:42] <Unggnu> +r
[10:42] <ka> No it should feel like 80 mb ;-)
[10:42] <Draiden> yeah...
[10:42] <ka> Since yesterday...
[10:42] <ka> Nvidia yes
[10:42] <dominiqu1> ka So, what did you do yesterday xD
[10:42] <Draiden> ka: I should report this to the kde team so they can fix it asap
[10:42] <Draiden> ka: if it has something to do with kde
[10:43] <dominiqu1> ka: Maybe you can do some benchmarks to determine wether its kde or not
[10:43] <ka> Yes , mad apps are: Xorg, krunner, plasma, konqueror kwin...
[10:44] <dominiqu1> ka Ok, this is kde...
[10:44] <dominiqu1> man -k xorg
[10:44] <ka> And I cant even load gtk apps...
[10:44] <dominiqu1> ups
[10:44] <dominiqu1> ka I experienced taht many users have problems with xorg..
[10:44] <Unggnu> ka Nvidia doesn't work well with KDE 4 I have read
[10:45] <szer0> Hey I have a problem with my screen flickering (ubuntu 8.10, nvidia 180.22) I get the flicker when the video effects (compiz) is set to none. If its set to normal, extra or custom I don't get any flickering.
[10:45] <ka> Yeah but I thought they fixed it now...
[10:45] <Unggnu> szer0: KDE 4?
[10:45] <szer0> nope gnome
[10:45] <Unggnu> ka It is a driver issue afaik and this one is proprietary
[10:45] <dominiqu1> szer0: You downloaded the nvidia drivers?
[10:45] <dominiqu1> szer0: Ubuntu does not come with nvidia drivers (becaue they're property of nvidia)
[10:46] <ka> So can I uninstall and reinstall KDE4 without going to the shell?
[10:46] <szer0> dominiqu1: yes i did (version 180.22)
[10:46] <ka> It's not a problem just wondering...
[10:47] <dominiqu1> szer0: Can't help you, not much experience with compiz :)
[10:47] <hagabaka> why does the "klash" package only contain two changelog files?
[10:47] <szer0> dominiqu1: thing is its not compiz. its happening when compiz isn't running. if I run compiz the flickering stops
[10:47] <dominiqu1> ka I think uninstall kde while being in kde can result in some ugly effects..
[10:48] <ka> ok. I have to log out then. no prob
[10:49] <dominiqu1> szer0: So its kde?
[10:49] <ka> whats the name for KDE "all"
[10:49] <dominiqu1> ka You can be here in irc on another tty
[10:49] <szer0> dominiqu1: no I am running gnome.
[10:49] <ka> i am guessing I do a sudo apt-get remove kde???
[10:50] <Draiden> ka: that can only be done if you have installed it through aptitude
[10:50] <dominiqu1> szer0: hm sorry, don't know how to help you. Maybe you should check x11 config files, or even better search google (what you've already done i suppose) -- sorry
[10:50] <Draiden> ka: if i'm correct, otherwise it should be something like make uninstall?
[10:50] <ka> And i haven't?
[10:50] <Draiden> ka: I don't know :P
[10:50] <Draiden> sudo apt-get autoremove kde4-core
[10:51] <dominiqu1> ka just try sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[10:51] <ka> I added som repos and upgraded.
[10:51] <dominiqu1> ka ?
[10:51] <ka> Ok I have to PCs here so no biggie
[10:52] <Unggnu> ka I am going to test KDE 4.2 soon, will report back :)
[10:52] <Unggnu> intel hardware
[10:53] <dominiqu1> ka Ok, but you wouldnt have to be on two pcs. Removing/Installing the KDE can be done without rebooting system or closing internet connection
[10:53] <dominiqu1> yeah... goodbye.
[10:53] <dominiqu1> ^^
[10:55] <Draiden> how do I get back from shell view (when used ctrl+alt+f1) to my desktop (gnome)?
[10:56] <dominiqu1> Draiden: alt+f7
[10:56] <Draiden> nice :)
[10:56] <Draiden> thx
[10:56] <dominiqu1> Draiden np :)
[10:56] <ka> Hm sudo apt-get remove kde-desktop = no package found
[10:56] <dominiqu1> ka kubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <Draiden> kde4-core?
[10:56] <ka> ahh silly me
[10:57] <bazhang> !puregnome
[10:57] <dominiqu1> ah ok then :D
[10:58] <ka> kdelibs4c2 is not installed
[10:59] <Unggnu> ubottu: :-D
[11:00] <Unggnu> bazhang: but he have to remember to install kubuntu-desktop again :-D
[11:00] <ka> ofcourse
[11:00] <ka> remove kdelibs* did the trick
[11:00] <dominiqu1> But the question remains, how to select the stable version... does kubuntu-desktop automatically install stable?
[11:00] <ka> i think
[11:01] <bazhang> for intrepid?
[11:01] <ka> I have removed the RC repos...
[11:01] <ka> So I should be safe
[11:01] <dominiqu1> k...
[11:02] <ka> But one last question kubunt-desktop will install kde4 right?
[11:02] <dr_Willis> yes - it should. if you are using the 8.10 release
[11:02] <ka> yep yep
[11:02] <intifadaGuest849> hello ppl
[11:03] <dominiqu1> whats the name of the process for the kde control bar?
[11:04] <hagabaka> in kde 4?
[11:04] <ka> crap I have som mediabuntu sources lying around. Whats the path to my soures list?
[11:04] <dominiqu1> yep, kde4 hagabaka
[11:04] <ka> dominiqu1: Its a plasma aplet. You have to kill and start plasma
[11:05] <dominiqu1> ka Thanks.
[11:05] <hagabaka> well if you're just missing the bar, you could just add it back
[11:05] <hagabaka> right click on the desktop, add panel, then add applet on the panel, choose task list
[11:07] <dominiqu1> ka hm killed it, started it. black screen :D
[11:07] <Draiden> anyone from the netherlands?
[11:07] <dominiqu1> hagabaka: there was no desktop either, just apps
[11:07] <ka> cool...
[11:07] <dominiqu1> ka ok i think i 've got to stop kde xD
[11:08] <dominiqu1> while linux seems to be very stable, the desktop environments still aren't
[11:08] <hyper__ch> sure the desktop enviroments are
[11:08] <hyper__ch> which ones have you tried?
[11:08] <Draiden> dominiqu1: the server edition of ubuntu 8.10 is very stable :)
[11:09] <dominiqu1> Draiden: believe that
[11:09] <Draiden> dominiqu1: I've got it running on my server in the datacenter with vmware server on it
[11:09] <dominiqu1> hayper__ch kde4.1, gnome (latest stable). They both are not as stable as the windows vista environments (where the os is less stable xD)
[11:10] <dominiqu1> hyper__ just experiences on my own machine :D
[11:10] <Draiden> dominiqu1: what are the biggest glitches on the kde and gnome that you have experienced?
[11:12] <dominiqu1> Draiden: Hm there are many
[11:13] <Draiden> dominqu1: shame but it still is opensource, many people working on it
[11:13] <dominiqu1> Draiden: apps crash, my keyboard does not react (my mouse still does), render errors, kwin crashed... some things that happen from time to time, sometimes they happen all together :D
[11:14] <Draiden> dominqu1: kwin is the application that loads the windows?
[11:14] <dominiqu1> Draiden: ahm afaik it's the one, that decorates the windows with the theme and transmits keyboard signals to them...
[11:15] <dominiqu1> Draiden A good hint for that kwin has crashed is when your shortcuts for desktop effects don't work any longer
[11:15] <Phlogi> can I get latest amarok in 8.10?
[11:16] <dominiqu1> Draiden This is all in kde when having some apps running... in gnome i made a horrible experience yesterday, when i started a terminal emulation and gnome crashed (keyboard AND mouse didn't work any longer)
[11:17] <dominiqu1> Phlogi Does the repo not work?
[11:18] <Draiden> dominqu1: hm, that isn't very stable indeed. that makes xp/vista more stable than those environments indeed, although the rest of windows is quite nasty
[11:18] <Draiden> eheh
[11:19] <Draiden> dominiqu1: I work with vista at work and they've downgraded a lot of options
[11:19] <dr_Willis> you dont want to get me started on the problems ive had with vista/xp  this week....
[11:19] <dr_Willis> heh
[11:19] <dominiqu1> Draiden: Yeah, but it's quite stable, isn't it?
[11:19] <dominiqu1> dr_Willis You can give a summary? :D
[11:20] <Phlogi> dominiqu1: never mind
[11:20] <Draiden> domiqu1: yes it works, but there is still a thing like a buffer which loads up
[11:21] <dominiqu1> Draiden Yeah, the system basics are not unix-like-efficient, but i never had to restart my vista-desktop-environment because it crashed.
[11:22] <Draiden> dominiqu1: true. but I think the gnome version on eeebuntu is quite stable
[11:22] <dominiqu1> Draiden but i remarked, that my whole system was getting slower the longer i used it...
[11:22] <Draiden> dominiqu1: on vista?
[11:22] <dominiqu1> Draiden yes.
[11:23] <Draiden> dominqu1: that still makes me wonder about those kind of persons which have their pc on 24/7, how slow those systems must be :P
[11:23] <dominiqu1> Draiden xD stupid you
[11:24] <jussi01> !ot
[11:24] <dominiqu1> thanks jussi01...
[11:25] <Draiden> hehe alright :)
[11:25] <dr_Willis> Now  this is weird.. trying to mount an external usb hard drive....
[11:25] <dr_Willis>  mount /dev/sdf1 Vault101
[11:26] <dr_Willis> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[11:26] <dr_Willis> its too busy to be mounted? whats it busy doing? :)
[11:26] <Yalion> dr_Willis are you mounting another device? :S
[11:26] <dr_Willis> Hmmm. it just mounted when i clicked on the icon... but not the command line...
[11:26] <dr_Willis> go figure
[11:28] <dominiqu1> dr_Willis Maybe lsof prints some info about processes that access the device...
[11:29] <dr_Willis> How could somthing been accessing it whenit wasent mounted yet.. :)
[11:29] <dr_Willis> but i think it may of been gnome desktop trying to mount it when i plugged it in.. but not yet gettting it fully mounted
[11:29] <dr_Willis>  perhaps.. :) its mounted now
[11:29] <hyper__ch> running kde 4.2 here and when I run this command from the terminal, then output gets logged, however if I run it from the kmenu, it won't. I'm open to suggestions:  amarok --debug --noforg 2>&1 > /home/hyper/amarok_debug.txt
[11:29] <dr_Willis> external 1.5 TB usb hard drive
[11:31] <dominiqu1> dr_Willis I just thought of some automatic mount process...
[11:31] <dominiqu1> dr_willis so it works now?
[11:31] <dr_Willis> yep looks like it.
[11:32] <dr_Willis> just doubled my fileserver space with it.
[11:32] <dominiqu1> dr_Willis gz :D
[11:41] <intifadaGuest849> I miss adept from 8.04
[11:41] <intifadaGuest849> the new one is so...
[11:41] <intifadaGuest849> ...
[11:42] <intifadaGuest849> ppl
[11:42] <intifadaGuest849> help
[11:42] <intifadaGuest849> can't read or write dvd's
[11:43] <intifadaGuest849> even though in 8.04 it worked
[11:43] <intifadaGuest849> what can I do?
[11:45] <stufkan> try a livecd to test if it is the drive
[11:45] <stufkan> even if you say, it used to work
[11:46] <dr_Willis> see if you can read a normal cd also..
[11:46] <dr_Willis> try moiunting the things manually
[11:47] <stufkan> and be sure the disc is not closed
[11:49] <jacobw-uk> hi there
[11:49] <jacobw-uk> !amarok
[11:49] <jacobw-uk> is amarok 2.0* available in jaunty yet?
[11:51] <jacobw-uk> sorry, just looked that up on the package search
[11:53] <mebisuda> Why "skype for linux" is not include in default packages?
[11:53] <Tm_T> mebisuda: skype licence doesn't allow that
[11:54] <Tm_T> nor Ubuntu want closed apps
[11:54] <scheuri> hi all
[11:55] <scheuri> anyone know grep a bit? I have a stupid question...:)
[11:55] <mirco> yes
[11:55] <mebisuda> I see. Thank you Tm_T!!
[11:56] <scheuri> I would like to see all the stuff EXPECT the pattern I just gave grep....eg: cat file.txt | grep "hello" -> gives me all lines with hello....how to I make it give me all lines without hello?
[11:56] <dr_Willis> you can have regular expressions that are inverted...
[11:57] <SSJ_GZ> grep -v
[11:57] <dr_Willis> or negated? i forget the term. :) also
[11:57] <dr_Willis> all the stuff 'except' the pattern :)
[11:57] <mirco> i have a problemm with ubuntu kompzer..........!!!!1help meeeeeeeeeee
[11:57] <intifadaGuest849> how do I install libdvdcss in interpid
[11:58] <scheuri> SSJ_GZ: thanks a lot....:)
[11:58] <SSJ_GZ> np :)
[11:58] <scheuri> SSJ_GZ: I keep forgetting that one....should really write it down this time...;)
[11:58] <scheuri> thanks again
[11:58] <antoine> hi there
[11:58] <SSJ_GZ> Hehe
[11:58] <david_> intifadaGuest849: two ways
[11:59] <david_> 1) add mediaubuntu to your repositirories
[11:59] <david_> 2) run this script /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[11:59] <david_> the distribution of libdvdcss is a bit of a legal grey area so Ubuntu can't host it or ship it as easily by default
[12:01] <intifadaGuest849> david, the response is "no such file or directory"
[12:01] <intifadaGuest849> for the second way
[12:02] <intifadaGuest849> the problem is that I cannot read video dvd's
[12:03] <david_> intifadaGuest849: oh sorry - install libdvdread3 first
[12:03] <intifadaGuest849> k, thanks
[12:04] <david_> (one reads DVDs and is in the repository, libdvdcss "breaks" the encryption and reigon locking - which is why it's the dodgy one
[12:04] <david_> libdvdread comes with a script to install libdvdcss
[12:05] <intifadaGuest849> k, now I installed both of them
[12:06] <intifadaGuest849> but still can't read my video dvd
[12:06] <intifadaGuest849> dolphin doesn't detect it
[12:09] <Shadeslayer> hey people
[12:09] <mirco> cioa
[12:09] <mirco> ciao
[12:09] <Shadeslayer> i wanted to run open SUSE from my USB sticka and am following these instructions:http://en.opensuse.org/SuSE_install_from_USB_drive
[12:09] <dr_Willis> theres 'mounting' the optical media.. then theres actually using the data on the drives. :)
[12:10] <dr_Willis> need to see what its failing at..
[12:10] <Shadeslayer> i cant get konsole to open my sdb(aka pendrive)
[12:10] <Shadeslayer> *stick
[12:11] <dr_Willis> Shadeslayer,  and why is this a #kubuntu support type question?  or am i missing somthing?
[12:11] <Shadeslayer> well i wanted some help with the terminal
[12:11] <Shadeslayer> the fdisk /dev/sdb does not open my pendrive
[12:11] <dr_Willis> mount the thing manually perhaps?  'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1'
[12:12] <dr_Willis> sudo fdisk /dev/devicename
[12:12] <dr_Willis> assuming you are using ubuntu/kubuntu :) you need sudo
[12:13] <Shadeslayer> it says command(m for help)
[12:13] <dr_Willis> yes.. thats fdisk's interface..
[12:13] <intifadaGuest849> david, you said I should add mediaubuntu to repositirories. how exactly do I do that
[12:14] <dr_Willis> m for help, p to print info. ,  d for delete, n for new...
[12:14] <dr_Willis> be sure to 'w'rite changes back to the disk after you do stuff to it.
[12:14] <Shadeslayer> ok
[12:15] <dr_Willis> You may want to read up on linux partitioning basics/fdisk tutorials if this is all geek to you. :)
[12:15] <dr_Willis> or use gparted/qtparted
[12:15] <Shadeslayer> im a bit of a geek too,so no need
[12:15] <dr_Willis> Linux fdisk is a radical  differance from windows/dos old fdisk :)
[12:15] <dr_Willis> its actually useable. heh
[12:16] <Shadeslayer> so when i do this:l /dev/sdb it gives me various formats,what do they mean
[12:16] <dr_Willis> filesytems you can use
[12:16] <Shadeslayer> can i format my pendrive??
[12:16] <Shadeslayer> with the file systems
[12:16] <dr_Willis> you fdisk to make  the partition layouts .. then you format them
[12:16] <dr_Willis> if its paritioned how you like.. you dont need fdisk
[12:16] <Shadeslayer> ok
[12:17] <Shadeslayer> and BTW doesnt kubuntu support booting off USB's too
[12:17] <dr_Willis> most every disrto can boot/run from usb if set up right
[12:18] <dr_Willis> theres 'booting' then theres running :)
[12:18] <Shadeslayer> *running
[12:18] <Shadeslayer> lol
[12:18] <dr_Willis> the unetbootin tool can take many disrtos  iso files and gerneate a bootable thumb drive from them automatically
[12:18] <dr_Willis> so you have a usb-live-thumbdfrive
[12:18] <Shadeslayer> ooohhhwhere can i find that
[12:18] <dr_Willis> thats not  quite the same as a 'installed to a usb drive' setup
[12:19] <dr_Willis> google for 'unetbootin' :)
[12:19] <Shadeslayer> ok so its like a live thumbdrive
[12:19] <dr_Willis> pendrivelinux.com also has tools/tutorials
[12:19] <Shadeslayer> like a live CD
[12:19] <dr_Willis> ubuntu has a tool to make a live-cd-thumbdrive with a persistant save area.. so its a bit of both worlds
[12:20] <dr_Willis> manyu other distros can do this with  more features also
[12:20] <Shadeslayer> i basically need a GUI based platform to do this
[12:20] <dr_Willis> to do what exactly?
[12:21] <Shadeslayer> to make the live thumbdrive
[12:21] <dr_Willis> ubuntu has a tool to do it.. then theres unetbootin
[12:21] <dr_Willis> deoending on the disrto you are working with. some have other tools
[12:21] <dr_Willis> puppylinux and slitaz both have tools to  install to a thumbdrive
[12:22] <Shadeslayer> i think ill go with unetbootin
[12:22] <dr_Willis> unetbootin has ports of it for linux and windows
[12:23] <Shadeslayer> yeah looking at the site now
[12:24] <Shadeslayer> dr_willis:the people at #suse said it does not work sometimes
[12:25] <Shadeslayer> will try it out anyways
[12:27] <Aison> hello
[12:27] <Aison> somehow I fu**** up my kde ;) kwin can no longer start
[12:27] <Aison> kwin: error while loading shared libraries: libkephal.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:27] <Draiden> Shadeslayer: it worked for me perfectly
[12:27] <Aison> is there some way to reinstall kde desktop
[12:27] <Draiden> Shadeslayer: I've used it for eeebuntu and installed it on my acer one
[12:28] <Draiden> If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »
[12:29] <Draiden> I don't know if it works perfectly, just copied from a conversation a couple of hours ago
[12:29] <dr_Willis> 'removeing/reinstalling' is windows thinking. :) i have to wonder where that library went to
[12:29] <AliTarihi> Hi! I'm using Kubntu KDE 4.2 RC1. When I resume, the screen is not locked. Any idea?
[12:29] <dr_Willis> !find  libkephal.so
[12:29] <dr_Willis> !find  libkephal
[12:30] <dr_Willis> you sure ya pasted that name right?
[12:30] <Aison> dr_Willis, yes
[12:30] <Aison> maybe I should reinstall kde-window-manager  (remove kwin binary and get it again)
[12:31] <dr_Willis> i cant even find that lib on this system.
[12:32] <mateusz_> hello
[12:32] <mateusz_> How to set 1280 x 1024 resollution ?
[12:33] <dr_Willis> there we to.. libhephal  is on my other system. :) i dont have kde4 on this one
[12:33] <Aison> dr_Willis, how can I completly rebuild the dependency list?
[12:34] <dr_Willis> I would use that ubuntu packate search site/feature and see where that lib came from.
[12:34] <dr_Willis> perhaps reinstall that package..
[12:34] <dr_Willis> I still have to wonder how it vanished.
[12:34] <dr_Willis> or perhaps it  got currupted
[12:34] <AliTarihi> I'm using Kubntu KDE 4.2 RC1. When I resume, the screen is not locked. Any idea?
[12:35] <dr_Willis> its in /usr/lib/libkephal*
[12:35] <mateusz_> Help me. I need 1280x1024 on my kubuntu with kde4
[12:36] <dr_Willis> mateusz_,  tell the channel your video card? and monitor setup perhaps for starters?
[12:37] <Draiden> I'd like to fetch the version from a package in the aptitude, is there a option to do that?
[12:37] <mateusz_> I have kubuntu on VirtualBox, my monitor is samsung 173p+  and geForce 7900GS
[12:38] <Draiden> ah kind of found it apt-cache showpkg wine
[12:39] <dr_Willis> mateusz_,  under virutalbox here with PuppyLinux just now.. i can just rerun the x org/res changer tool and set the res to whatever i want. I do have it set to use the vesa X drivers however.
[12:39] <dr_Willis> !fixres
[12:40] <dr_Willis> you may just need to use the kde/config tool to set the higher res.
[12:40] <mateusz_> where is the driver ?
[12:40]  * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[12:40] <mateusz_> where ca i find the driver, and the kde/config ?
[12:42] <dr_Willis> i dident use any special drivers.. other then configure X to use 'vesa'
[12:42] <dr_Willis> if you got   the virtualbox guest addons installed - i think it configures X to use the virtualbox video driver instead
[12:42] <dr_Willis> !virtualbox
[12:42] <mateusz_> what is the ight command to run configuration of vesa?
[12:44] <AliTarihi> I'm using Kubntu KDE 4.2 RC1. When I resume, the screen is not locked. Any idea?
[12:44] <Machtin> hi guys!
[12:45] <Machtin> i got a huge problem.. i think i just deleted ~50gbyte of data.. is there any tool to recover?
[12:45] <dr_Willis> !undelete
[12:46] <Machtin> it's non-ext3, actually an encrypted truecrypt-ntfs
[12:47] <mateusz_> bash: xrandar: polecenie nieodnalezione
[12:47] <mateusz_> bash: xrandar: command not found
[12:48] <shadeslayer> alas unetbootin does not work
[12:48] <dr_Willis> !find xrand
[12:49] <dr_Willis> !find xrandr
[12:50] <dr_Willis> its called  ' xrandr ' here  on my commnand line
[12:50] <shadeslayer> dr_Willis:any other alternative to unetbootin
[12:50] <Machtin> dr_Willis: could you tell me a tool for that special problem?
[12:51] <Machtin> ntfsundelete doesn't seem to work, since i use it on "/media/truecrypt1".. but /dev/sdwhatever would be useless, since that's encrypted i guess
[12:51] <dr_Willis> shadeslayer,  use the docs/guides at pendrivelinux.com perhaps
[12:51] <shadeslayer> ok
[12:51] <dr_Willis> Machtin,  ive never undeleted stuff.. i ve been spending all night trying to recover data from a dead 500gb hd.. with no luck
[12:51] <Machtin> :/
[12:52] <dr_Willis> sounds like you may be out of luck
[12:52] <Machtin> kk, thanks anyway
[12:53] <shadeslayer> pendrive linux too requires open SUSE to be installed
[12:54] <dominiqu1> where to get huawei driver?
[12:55] <jussi01> dominiqu1: huawei what?
[12:55] <dr_Willis> and this is  some how Kubuntu's fault shadeslayer ? :) the guides may work with other disrtos  just using the suse iso files
[12:55] <shadeslayer> oops wrong channel :P
[12:55] <dominiqu1> jussi01: I'd like to bring my umts modem to work under ubuntu... I read something about 'huawei', and that it should work without problems if you got this one
[12:56] <dominiqu1> -ubuntu+kubutnu
[12:56] <jussi01> dominiqu1: yeah it does. knetworkmanager is a bit lacking though, so network-manager-gnome makes things lots easier
[13:03] <legodude_> how do I stop konq from loading flash plugin?
[13:03] <mateusz_> mateusz@ubuntu:~$ xrandr --addmode VBOX1 1280x1024
[13:03] <mateusz_> xrandr: cannot find mode "1280x1024"
[13:03] <mateusz_> how to add mode?
[13:04] <dominiqu1> thank you, jussi01
[13:05] <jussi01> dominiqu1: there was a post recently on planet regarding the huwei
[13:10] <mateusz_> xrandr: cannot find mode "1280x1024"         ---- how to add mode?
[13:11] <dominiqu1> !planet
[13:11] <dabear_> Hi people
[13:11] <Draiden> hello
[13:12] <dabear_> I'm having trouble right clicking on my macbook, running kubuntu 8.10
[13:12] <Draiden> What kind of problem? isn't it functioning at all?
[13:12] <ka> Hi
[13:13] <dabear_> while it works in gnome, on kde, as soon as the rightclick menu opens and I move my mouse, it dissapears again
[13:13] <Draiden> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=479288
[13:13] <Draiden> try that one
[13:13] <dominiqu1> ahm.... i got internet connection but not under kde?
[13:14] <Draiden> dabear_: check out his post: ivesjd June 20th, 2007
[13:14] <dominiqu1> strange... knetworkmanager sees the wlan interface, is connected to wlan but I can't open a website in browser or conenct to a server via ftp...
[13:14] <Draiden> or you can do the three taps on the mouse
[13:14] <ka> is there a nice qt app that rips audiocds automatically preferably to oggs, flacs and mp3s
[13:15] <dabear_> Draiden, I think the problem is that I have to keep the right click down while navigating the right click menu
[13:16] <dabear_> or not :/
[13:16] <dabear_> hmm
[13:16] <dabear_> I tried using a normal mouse now, that works just fine
[13:16] <Draiden> and the three finger taps on the mouse?
[13:16] <Draiden> reaction on the forum thonuz: 3 finger tap on touchpad does a right click since feisty. What is wrong with that? using a keyboard shortcut takes more energy. Or add a 2 button mouse.
[13:17] <dabear_> three taps? you mean two taps on the touchpad and one one the mousebutton?
[13:17] <dabear_> this is strange
[13:17] <Draiden> hehe I don't know that :P, just on the mouse I guess
[13:17] <ka> three simultainous taps
[13:17] <dabear_> my macbook does only support two taps, I think
[13:18] <dabear_> it's 14 months old
[13:18] <dabear_> anyway, now two taps plus one on the mousebutton actually works
[13:18] <Draiden> dabear_: another reaction on the forum: ivesjd: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Pointer_Button3'
[13:18] <ka> most even older support three sim taps
[13:18] <dabear_> but only as long as I have a usb mouse connected
[13:19] <Draiden> dabear_: ivesjd: Put this in /etc/rc.local and it will then run on boot.
[13:19] <ka> even my 4 year old hp supports 3 taps
[13:19] <dabear_> Draiden, yep, I did
[13:19] <Draiden> didn't work?
[13:19] <dabear_> gotta reboot first :)
[13:20] <Draiden> hehe okay
[13:21] <dabear_> strange that is actually works in gnome
[13:21] <mateusz_> xrandr: cannot find mode "1280x1024"  - how to add mode ?
[13:22] <Draiden> does it work?
[13:23] <legodude_>  hi everyone, konq will seemingly at random crash with QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 26 and type 'Read', disabling...
[13:27] <dabear_> Draiden, I previously did what's said under touchpad here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Intrepid
[13:27] <dabear_> that worked for gnome
[13:30] <dabear_> didn't seem to work after a reboot
[13:30] <Draiden> hm
[13:31] <slow-motion> hi
[13:34] <Draiden> dabear_: I can't seem to find any other possible solutions on the web and I haven't got that much experience with kubuntu (yet) and mac books
[13:36] <dabear_> well then, just gotta bring a usb mouse with me :p
[13:36] <Nataouze> hi
[13:37] <dabear_> does anyone know how I can type a dollar sign then? I have no alt gr, only two alt buttons. Pressing the right alt button and the number 4, gives me this char: ¤
[13:48] <wesley> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/106415/
[13:48] <wesley> i am getting aerror that something isnt yet configured
[13:49] <blackflag> !nfs
[14:00] <vincenzo> ciao a tutti
[14:00] <vincenzo> italiani??
[14:00] <ghostcube> !it
[14:00] <ghostcube> :)
[14:01] <dabear_> !no
[14:01] <dabear_> nice
[14:02] <cuznt> i have 2 hd's with kde each
[14:02] <cuznt> one i just upgraded and can not connect to the interweb with it
[14:02] <cuznt> knetwork manager is gone
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> cuznt: try renaming /etc/network/interfaces or use a different app
[14:04] <cuznt> only thing left is wlan
[14:05] <cuznt> the upgrade uninstalled it
[14:05] <thomliz> HI
[14:05] <tobor> Hi all, My kubuntu system just recently (last few days) suddenly has become much less responsive. CPU is running around 20%.  Symptoms are - when selecting text in console or changing tabs in console (by mouse), konsole takes between 1 and four seconds to recognize/implement the action associated with the mouse selection.  This used to be instantaneous. In firefox when changing tabs by mouse it also takes 3 to 4 seconds or is completely ignored! (changi
[14:06] <thomliz> WAS IST AN
[14:06] <tobor> in summary - KDE reactions to mouse selectiosn are very very slow.
[14:07] <thomliz> HALL0
[14:07] <tobor> thomliz: just ask a question, stop saying hello.
[14:08] <tobor> thomliz: also dont use upper case here, you will be ignored
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> !caps | thomliz
[14:27] <tobor> Has anyone here seen a syndrome where KDE's reactiosn to mouse selection are suddenly delayed by 1 to four seconds when the same action performed by keyboard are instant?
[14:27] <tobor> *reactions
[14:31] <dagfunny> join #mnemonik.servehttp.com
[14:32] <esteban> hello
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> yay
[14:33] <faileas> hmm
[14:33]  * faileas got a fuzzy clock working properly again, yay ;p
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> got pidgin to stop thinking i'd spelled every word wrong, yay
[14:36] <alipio> Hello.. Is there a way to get the second screen (screen 1) working on kde 4.2? On kde3 it was working well.. monitor (screen 0).. tv (screen 1)
[14:37] <kevku> krandrtray?
[14:38] <alipio> kevku: i don't use this.. i've configured it manually in xorg.conf
[14:44] <tobor> alipio: by screen do you mean a second display? a physical second monitor?
[14:45] <tobor> alipio: try #kde
[14:45] <alipio> screen 0 = laptop monitor... screen 1 = tv
[14:46] <ka> Alipo
[14:46] <alipio> ?
[14:46] <ka> alipio: What kind of graphics card is on your laptop
[14:47] <alipio> nvidia 8400
[14:47] <alipio> driver nvidia-177.82
[14:47] <ka> Have your tried using the Nvidia control app?
[14:48] <ka> You can defin dual monitors and xinerama and so on there.
[14:48] <ka> Wait a minute.
[14:48] <ka> I remember that the latest xorg has done away with xorg. strange
[14:49] <ka> I mean xorg has droped configuring via xorg.conf(which the Nvidia app makes changes to...)
[14:50] <Tm_T> well, it does follow xorg.conf still
[14:50] <ka> The strange part is that I used the nvidia app on my other computer and fixed my xinerama display with it.
[14:50] <ka> ahh that explains it then.
[14:50] <alipio> weird... on kde3 its worked like a charm.. :(
[14:50] <ka> nothing last forever...
[14:51] <alipio> on laptop monitor I want to use resolution 1440x1280.. and tv 800x600
[14:51] <ka> Try installing nvidia-settings from synaptic. And configure your second display there.
[14:52] <alipio> will xinerama work with different resolutions?
[14:52] <ka> Sure
[14:53] <alipio> let me try
[14:53] <ka> Just remember that it will generate a file for you, that you have to copy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf remember to backup this file first...
[14:54] <alipio> ok
[15:17] <BluesKaj> good morning folks
[15:33] <cuznt> is there a way to make my start key open my app launcher?
[15:38] <NamShub> how can I change my kde3 file associations settings
[15:38] <NamShub> ?
[15:38] <NamShub> clicking on links from konversation opens quanta (!!)
[15:38] <cuznt> system setting namshub
[15:38] <cuznt> hit the advanced tab
[15:39] <ubuntu> hola
[15:39] <ubuntu> alguien habla español
[15:39] <NamShub> cuznt: but it doesnt affect the kde3 apps settings
[15:40] <cuznt> i think mine does
[15:40] <cuznt> what in particular are you trying to change
[15:40] <cuznt> ?
[15:40] <cuznt> try right clicking on the app chhose properties
[15:41] <NamShub> html & php, basically
[15:41] <cuznt> then you should see apps it opens with, you can move the preferred one up
[15:41] <NamShub> I want them to open in a webbrowser (it works fine in the kde4 apps, only not in the kde3 ones)
[15:43] <Nataouze> why does the default Documents folder (here /home/nathan/Documents/) gets reinitialized at reboot ?
[15:44] <Nataouze> I would like to change it definitely, this problem doesn't appear with compiled version of kde
[15:54] <Jacob_> hello, i need help with my internet connection
[15:59] <liqid> hi there - I'm fiddling with version 8.10 in a VirtualBox VM and I've got a few quick questions
[16:00] <liqid> one is if there is a gui to change the monitor and graphics drivers
[16:02] <Jacob_> is there anyone here that can help me?
[16:03] <cuznt> we wont know unless you ask the ? 1st
[16:03] <Jacob_> how do i setup my internet connection?
[16:04] <Jacob_> i've got a local network
[16:04] <RurouniJones> does it have DHCP
[16:04] <primary> i just installed edubuntu and I am having trouble with fonts.  in some programs meny text does not appear.  How do I resolve this?
[16:04] <RurouniJones> Jacob: You should be aware that you asked such a vague question people wouldn't be able to answer you with only what you gave us
[16:04] <Jacob_> what does dhcp mean?
[16:05] <RurouniJones> ... Basically you should just plug the cable and be ready to go
[16:06] <Jacob_> when i open the connection manager there isn't showing up any connections, do i have to write in the ip?
[16:06] <Jacob_> it is a wireless network
[16:06] <RurouniJones> See what I mean about not giving us enough information?
[16:06] <Jacob_> sorry
[16:07] <Jacob_> but i don't know what to tell you
[16:07] <RurouniJones> A good start would be: make of the network card, is the card recognised by kubuntu and are the drivers installed correctly
[16:08] <RurouniJones> and pastie the output of ifconfig
[16:08] <Jacob_> i've accually done that already
[16:09] <RurouniJones> So, what you should ask is: I have done X Y Z but cannot connect to my local network, any ideas
[16:09] <Jacob_> ok
[16:09] <RurouniJones> So, is the card recognised and drivers working
[16:10] <Jacob_> the guy that told me to do that said that the drivers were working
[16:10] <Jacob_> i think it was working
[16:10] <Jacob_> but in the connection manager, should the network pop-up?
[16:10] <Jacob_> bye
[16:10] <RurouniJones> So you can't see ANy networks in the wireless config?
[16:10] <Jacob_> no i can't
[16:11] <RurouniJones> The network card is enabled right? Some laptops have physical switches
[16:11] <dagfunny> hi
[16:11] <shadeslayer> jacob:try disabling and thing theen renabling the card
[16:11] <dagfunny> how is german chat ?
[16:11] <primary> how do I make invisible fonts visible?
[16:12] <RurouniJones> Use a magic marker
[16:12] <RurouniJones> primary: Read what I told Jacob. You are giving us no information, nothign to work with
[16:12] <RurouniJones> A description of hte problem, a dscrenshot would be nice
[16:12] <RurouniJones> We are not psychic
[16:12] <RurouniJones> !de | dagfunny
[16:15] <primary>  i just installed edubuntu and I am having trouble with fonts.  in some programs meny text does not appear.  How do I resolve this?
[16:16] <RurouniJones> which programs, which text
[16:16] <primary> konversation for example but others as well not all though. mostly menu text but some windowtext as well.
[16:17] <RurouniJones> Hang on
[16:17] <RurouniJones> Isn't edubuntu GNOME, not KDE
[16:17] <primary> The text will flash visible for a moment when I do thing
[16:17] <dagfunny> ah thx xD
[16:18] <primary> yes, what is the proper channel for me to be on??
[16:19] <real> hey guy
[16:19] <RurouniJones> Try #ubuntu - They might know more about what packages you need to isntall to make KDE programs work properly
[16:19] <real> ài wondering why youtube video not working i install .deb flash player but nothing work
[16:19] <real> cansomeone help me ?
[16:20] <RurouniJones> How did you install this .deb flash player?
[16:21] <real> on the internet
[16:21] <real> on the websit
[16:21] <shadeslayer> has anybody tried RC1 yet?????
[16:21] <hyper__ch> of?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> KDE 4.2
[16:21] <RurouniJones> real, uninstall the program then install the flash player from the Kubuntu repositories
[16:22] <real> how i uninstall
[16:22] <hyper__ch> many people have
[16:22] <yoritomo> hello i use kubuntu, with the ubuntu nvidia driver, then i used the resolution GUI utility to set it, but it does not wanna save my default value, should i launch by termianl as sudo ? then what would be the command line ?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> and what is the general response??
[16:23] <RurouniJones> sudo apt-get remove "package-name" <- Replace package name with whatever the .deb package name is
[16:23] <RurouniJones> you might be able to uninstall by clicking on the .deb file again
[16:23] <real> ok thanks
[16:23] <RurouniJones> Always check the Kubuntu repositories first before installing something from a website
[16:24] <hyper__ch> .deb filename is not necessarily package name
[16:24] <RurouniJones> which is why I didn't say the file name but the package name
[16:24] <shadeslayer> hyper_ch:is RC1 better than the beta version?????
[16:26] <yoritomo> anyone has an idea to resolve my problem ?
[16:27] <alkisg> yoritomo: try Alt+F2, kdesu nvidia-settings
[16:27] <shadeslayer> its a 190MB download :(, i dont want to download 190MB on my 18KBps connection
[16:28] <shadeslayer> along with other program updates
[16:30] <yoritomo> alkisg, thanks but not that , because it is not the propriétary drivers, then nvidia-settings is not installed and not suitable
[16:30] <alkisg> Ah, ok
[16:31] <RurouniJones> Woah, someone using the OSS nVidia drivers...I thought only debian users did that ;)
[16:31] <yoritomo> what is the terminal name of the GUI kde util for resolution? something like xrandr-gui ?
[16:31] <PhilRod> I tried to update to 4.2rc2 on intrepid, and got a failure, so now my packages are in a half-installed state. Is there an easy way to uninstall all kde packages and start from clean?
[16:31] <alkisg> yoritomo: you may run "ps aux" while running the utility to see the command
[16:32] <yoritomo> Rurounijones, i would like to use 3D but impossible to get working the official nvidia drivers on my config :s
[16:32] <shadeslayer> philrod:RC2??? or RC1
[16:33] <PhilRod> shadeslayer: oh, the one that's been released, I mean
[16:33] <yoritomo> alkisg , how to do that? it is a command line ?
[16:33] <shadeslayer> ;D
[16:33] <alkisg> yes, on the terminal, while the gui for resolution selection is running
[16:36] <yoritomo> alkisg what is it used for ? to find the name of the util ?
[16:36] <alkisg> yes, so that later you can run it by "sudo util-name"
[16:40] <Muzer> I'm setting up connecting to the internet with my phone. The phone is detected as an ethernet connection automatically as soon as I plug it in. I have not tested it (since it requires me to set up a proxy server because of my crap provider), but it connects and the computer indicators flash. However, there are two things I want to do:
[16:40] <mini-man> will Something Bad happen if I install kde 4.2 rc 1 with kde-nightly installed?
[16:40] <Muzer> 1) Set up so that WiFi and the internal ethernet (eth0) are preferred over my phone (eth1)
[16:41] <Muzer> 2) Make it go through a proxy ONLY when using eth1 (my phone)
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> mini-man: nope, kde-nightly is made to not mess with your KDE install
[16:43] <mini-man> JontheEchidna: thanks, and woot :D
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> :)
[16:46] <hyper__ch> JontheEchidna: you happen to know why this won't log anything to the file when called from KMenu however it logs when invoked from the terminal?  amarok --debug --nofork 2>&1 > /home/hyper/amarok_debug.txt
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> from kickoff?
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> or krunner?
[16:47] <hyper__ch> kickoff (kmen)... added a seperate entry for amarok
[16:47] <yoritomo> alkisg thanks, i found it by this way, it was krandrtray
[16:47] <JontheEchidna> oh
[16:47] <JontheEchidna> I don't know
[16:48] <JontheEchidna> probably because it's not a terminal
[16:48] <hyper__ch> JontheEchidna: well, it creates the file but doesn't fill anything ;(
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> maybe it's something like "there isn't any terminal output because it's not being launched by a terminal" or something similar
[16:50] <hyper__ch> JontheEchidna: no clue.... I thought you might know
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> I'm just guessing here too
[16:51] <Machtin> !undelete
[16:51] <hyper__ch> Machtin: use your backups :) the quickest way
[16:51] <|BaUmEr> hi all
[16:51] <|BaUmEr> I was hoping someone might be able to lend a hand
[16:51] <hyper__ch> I need both my hands :(
[16:51] <|BaUmEr> does anyone have x/k/ubuntu on their ps3?  I really need some help.
[16:51] <|BaUmEr> heh
[16:52] <Machtin> hyper__ch: which is not funny at all :(
[16:52] <|BaUmEr> I can't get it to recognize the blu ray drive
[16:52] <Machtin> these were files which weren't backuped yet
[16:52] <hyper__ch> Machtin: then they weren't important, right?
[16:54] <|BaUmEr> anyone?
[16:54] <hyper__ch> I mean a harddisk can stop working any day and if you don't have backups... well, then you either (a) have lost the data or (b) pay a fortune on recovery
[16:54] <xevix> opening dolphin now automatically takes me to ~/Documents .  Is there a way to make it stop doing that?
[16:56] <xevix> kde 4.2, kubuntu 8.10
[16:56] <Machtin> hyper__ch: well.. the disk isn't damaged, i must have deleted them by accident
[16:56] <Machtin> they were about 30minutes old.
[16:56] <|BaUmEr> please, this is so frustrating, it says the drive isn't mounted, and every thing I try to mount it doesntw ork
[16:58] <RurouniJones> |BaUmEr: You are asking for help on a totally non-standard platform, don't expect everyone to know what you need to do
[16:59] <david_> xevix in Dolpin go to Settings->Configure Dolphin
[16:59] <david_> look in the startup tab
[16:59] <xevix> david_, location is set to ~/
[17:00] <SSJ_GZ> xevix: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169016
[17:00] <xevix> SSJ_GZ, ah ok, known issue, thx
[17:00] <SSJ_GZ> np
[17:00] <david_> heh, xevix do "echo $HOME" in a terminal
[17:00] <david_> oh
[17:00] <lex79> xevix: edit kmenu and put dolphin instead dolphin %i -caption "%c" "%u"
[17:01] <xevix> david_, ?
[17:01] <alkisg> Has anyone used the kubuntu alternate cd to install an ltsp server? In the boot screen, there *isn't* an F4 option to install an ltsp server, but it's there in the debian-installer steps...???!!!
[17:02] <|BaUmEr> ok
[17:03] <xevix> ah, this was fixed in today's svn
[17:04] <xevix> xevi, heh, this could get confusing =p
[17:04] <maxbaldwin> alkisg: #ubuntu-server
[17:05] <alkisg> maxbaldwin: thanks, I'll try there.
[17:08] <hyper__ch> JontheEchidna: do you happen to know why /usr/bin/x could slow down everything, using 95% cpu?
[17:09] <hyper__ch> JontheEchidna: just upon a simple "windows" change from one application to another?
[17:09] <JontheEchidna> probably a crappy X driver
[17:09] <JontheEchidna> (video driver)
[17:10] <hyper__ch> JontheEchidna: using nvidia 180.06 driver
[17:10] <bentob0x> what was that little gui app on kde to have full details of all hardware?
[17:10] <JontheEchidna> bentob0x: kinfocenter
[17:11] <flithm> Hey everyone... I'm looking for the kate dev headers... anyone know what package they're in?
[17:11] <Tm_T> flithm: kdesdk-dev ?
[17:11] <flithm> haha
[17:11] <flithm> Tm_T: I tried that!
[17:11] <Tm_T> flithm: and?
[17:12] <bentob0x> thx JontheEchidna
[17:12] <flithm> Tm_T: well... i still have no Kate headers... although I could be looking in the wrong place maybe
[17:12] <bentob0x> is there a replacement for kde4?
[17:12] <bentob0x> is there a replacement to kinfocenter for kde4 I mean?
[17:12] <JontheEchidna> bentob0x: kde4 has kinfocenter
[17:13] <bentob0x> seems a bit 'empty' to me
[17:14] <JontheEchidna> bentob0x: empty?
[17:14] <flithm> Tm_T: somehow there's a way to search all packages for a file... anyone remember how to do that?
[17:14] <alkisg> flithm: dpkg -S path/to/file
[17:15] <bentob0x> no seems all good now JontheEchidna
[17:15] <bentob0x> thx :l)
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> :)
[17:15] <flithm> alkisg: thanks!
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/include/ktrader.h
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> you can also use ubottu
[17:16] <flithm> Tm_T: I don't find Kate header files included by any package!
[17:21] <JvM_Gelon> Hi there
[17:21] <shadeslayer> !hi
[17:21] <JvM_Gelon> In Apple Mac OSX there is a very nice button to make an overview of all open windows, doe that excists for Kubuntu too
[17:22] <JvM_Gelon> or if not does anyone knows what the name is of that functionality?
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> In Kubuntu 8.10, if you have desktop effects enabled, you can move your mouse to the very top-left corner of the screen for a second
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> and it'll do an overview of all windows
[17:24] <D_Eagle> how to change 'volume name' (LABEL) of a pendrive without formatting?
[17:25] <alkisg> e2label
[17:25] <matthias__> list ubuntu
[17:26] <matthias__> hi all, anybody here using truecrypt on a raid 1 system?
[17:27] <hyper__ch> no
[17:27]  * fidji ne joue plus au Go
[17:27] <JvM_Gelon> JontheEchidna: i have hardy 8.04
[17:27] <hyper__ch> but there's not reason not to
[17:27] <D_Eagle> alkisg:  but isn't it for ext2 filesystem only??
[17:28] <alkisg> D_Eagle: sorry, didn't notice the "pendrive" there! :) tune2fs -L label /dev/device
[17:29] <alkisg> Nah, scratch that also
[17:29] <alkisg> ?parted then... qtparted etc
[17:29] <dom_> o
[17:30] <D_Eagle> alkisg: so we have to format pendrive just to label it?
[17:31] <alkisg> No, ?parted has options to change the label without formatting
[17:31] <alkisg> (I've used gparted - I'm just now thinking to switch to kubuntu - but I'm sure qtparted also has this option)
[17:32] <D_Eagle> alkisg:  (parted) mklabelWarning: The existing disk label on /dev/sdb1 will be destroyed and all data on this disk will be lost. Do you want tocontinue?Yes/No?
[17:33] <morose> alk: i use kubuntu....i like it, but my coworker says it's like "my first linux"
[17:33] <alkisg> Well, no! This is a message from parted?
[17:34] <D_Eagle> yep
[17:34] <alkisg> D_Eagle: *don't* run the "label" command, parted means "partition" when it says label
[17:35] <alkisg> Use a gui, like qtparted => right click on a partition => change label
[17:35] <alkisg> The gui programs mean label when they say label! :)
[17:35] <D_Eagle> oh!.. oki thnx. i am downloading qtparted rite now :)
[17:36] <alkisg> D_Eagle:  I think the equivalent in parted is "name", but I haven't use this, so I can't say for sure
[17:36] <shadeslayer> hey krunner just crashed,im pasting the backtrace right now,any idea what caused it
[17:37] <D_Eagle> alkisg: oops
[17:37] <D_Eagle> Error: msdos disk labels do not support partition names.
[17:37] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/106537/
[17:38] <D_Eagle> ok first i'll try from.. qtparted..
[17:38] <shadeslayer> that was just a random crash,was updating to RC1
[17:39] <shadeslayer> brb
[17:43] <PhilRod> does kopete in 4.2rc1 in intrepid have msn support? the page on kubuntu.org is ambiguous about whether the "no msn in kopete" applies only to jaunty
[17:44] <JontheEchidna> it only applies to jaunty
[17:44] <PhilRod> hmm, I wonder why I don't have an option to add an msn account then. Is there another package I need?
[17:45] <Zorix> ouch i need msn support
[17:47] <MarcoPau> hello, since my upgrade to intrepid my keyboard hasn't been working properly in some programs: alt gr combined symbols don't come out, except here in kvirc. what am I supposed to check?
[17:48] <mini-man> Zorix: kde-nightly's kopete has msn support
[17:48] <Zorix> good to know
[17:48] <mini-man> that's what I'm using, at least until this upgrade finishes, at which point I'll probably find out that you're right and I just broke my kopete install by upgrading to rc 1 again :(
[17:49] <mini-man> billions of overwrite errors, did a big fat dpkg -i --force-all *.deb, hopefully it doesn't break *too* many things..
[17:54] <wesley__> Man what do i hate life
[17:54] <mini-man> lol
[17:55] <cuznt> i dont hate life
[17:57] <FieldySnuts> hello, i just used adept to update everythiing on my laptop (thinkpad T43). after rebooting, wireless no longer works. ifconfig -a doesn't even show the wireless network device. i'm not sure where to go from here to get it working again
[17:58] <dominique> !kde4
[17:58] <dominique> !puregnome
[17:58] <wesley__> cuznt, I do on the moment though, girlfriend which doesnt let hear anything of her, and we are on a break, which just sucks
[17:58] <ras> hi JontheEchidna
[18:01] <torkiano> FieldySnuts: what wifi card do you have?
[18:02] <amerigo> !notebook
[18:02]  * Tm_T slaps Stufkan-afk 
[18:03] <FieldySnuts> torkiano: intel pro 2915 abg i think. strangely the module for it (ipw2200) loaded fine, but regardless, it doesn't show up with ifconfig -a or iwconfig
[18:03] <torkiano> see it with lspci
[18:04] <FieldySnuts> [   18.817044] ipw2200: ipw2200-bss.fw request_firmware failed: Reason -2
[18:04] <FieldySnuts> [   18.817049] ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -2
[18:04] <FieldySnuts> meh
[18:04] <mrdigital> 8.10 works great
[18:05] <torkiano> FieldySnuts: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[18:06] <FieldySnuts> torkiano: 8.04.1 .. it looks like adept upgraded my kernel but didn't upgrade the same version of the restricted modules package.
[18:06] <FieldySnuts> installing now
[18:06] <D_Eagle> alkisg: nope.. not even qtparted can label a pendrive without formatting
[18:07] <alkisg> D_Eagle: really? fat32, isn't it?
[18:07] <alkisg> Let me test here with gparted...
[18:07] <D_Eagle> yes
[18:07] <FieldySnuts> yeah still can't load the firmware. reboot i guess. brb torkiano
[18:11] <alkisg> D_Eagle: works fine here with gparted 0.3.8
[18:11] <alkisg> Did you unmount the disk before trying to set the label?
[18:11] <alkisg> Did you run qtparted as root? (kdesu qtparted)?
[18:12] <D_Eagle> yep i did
[18:12] <D_Eagle> actually there isn't any option to set label.. it is present only while formatting
[18:13] <alkisg> What version do you have?
[18:13] <Tm_T> stufkan: please don't use awaynicks
[18:13] <alkisg> D_Eagle: dpkg -l parted      or         dpkg -l qtparted
[18:13] <D_Eagle> 0.4.5
[18:13] <D_Eagle> 0.4.5
[18:13] <stufkan> awkay
[18:14] <alkisg> D_Eagle: mine is: parted 1.8.8.git.2008.03.24-7ubuntu7
[18:15] <D_Eagle> ya but parted is the same version as that of yours
[18:15] <alkisg> OK, either you have to get gparted or me qtparted! :)
[18:15] <D_Eagle> i am downloading gparted :)
[18:15] <alkisg> D_Eagle: do you want to see a screenshot? :)
[18:16] <dominique> !downgrade
[18:16] <dominique> hurray.
[18:17] <D_Eagle> alkisg: okie sure
[18:18] <ngirard> Hi all. On kubuntu 8.10, plugging a camera leads to nothing at the GUI side. /var/log/messages says:
[18:18] <ngirard> usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5
[18:18] <ngirard> usb 3-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[18:19] <ngirard> any thoughts ?
[18:19] <D_Eagle> alkisg:  The 'Label' option is disabled :S
[18:19] <D_Eagle> even if the device is not mounted
[18:19] <D_Eagle> and i am using it as root
[18:19] <alkisg> D_Eagle: do an "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" and "fdisk -l /dev/sdb1", and put the results into pastebin
[18:20] <FieldySnuts> torkiano: well, it turns out that adept had updated some things related to a new kernel, but didn't update the restricted modules nor the ubuntu modules package for the new version. i've done updates like this in the past that brought in updated kernels, and those were taken care of, do you think I may have missed something?
[18:20] <alkisg> Maybe you have FAT16 or something else different than me...
[18:20] <alkisg> D_Eagle: with sudo in front, sudo fdisk ...
[18:21] <rocky_> ciao
[18:21] <torkiano> FieldySnuts: do you have any un-offical repository enabled?
[18:22] <D_Eagle> ya i got that.. but the filesystem is fat32
[18:22] <D_Eagle> Disk /dev/sdb: 4063 MB, 4063232000 bytes5 heads, 32 sectors/track, 49600 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 160 * 512 = 81920 bytesDisk identifier: 0x000c6578   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System/dev/sdb1   *          51       49600     3963968    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[18:22] <D_Eagle> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb1  Disk /dev/sdb1: 4059 MB, 4059103232 bytes125 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1022 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 7750 * 512 = 3968000 bytesDisk identifier: 0x2c6b7369                    This doesn't look like a partition tableProbably you selected the wrong device.      Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System/dev/sdb1p1   ?      249811      488760   925929529+  68  UnknownPartition 1 has different physical/logical
[18:22] <D_Eagle> 6, 100, 32) logical=(249810, 12, 29)                  Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:                     phys=(288, 101, 46) logical=(488759, 81, 59)                  Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.                     /dev/sdb1p2   ?      171637      241182   269488144   79  Unknown  Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):     phys=(357, 32, 43) logical=(171636, 83, 47)Partition 2 has d
[18:22] <D_Eagle>  phys=(0, 13, 10) logical=(241181, 124, 42)Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary./dev/sdb1p3   ?       69548      249981   699181456   53  OnTrack DM6 Aux3Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):     phys=(345, 32, 19) logical=(69547, 2, 18)Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:     phys=(324, 77, 19) logical=(249980, 117, 49)Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary./dev/sdb1p4   ?      179952     
[18:23] <D_Eagle> tion 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):     phys=(87, 1, 0) logical=(179951, 119, 36)Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings:     phys=(335, 78, 2) logical=(179954, 88, 44)Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.Partition table entries are not in disk order
[18:23] <alkisg> D_Eagle: not here!
[18:23] <FieldySnuts> yikes
[18:23] <alkisg> !pastebin
[18:23] <FieldySnuts> thanks tim
[18:23] <Tm_T> D_Eagle: please use pastebin
[18:23] <FieldySnuts> tm rather
[18:23] <FieldySnuts> torkiano: i do but just for kde4, nothing eles
[18:23] <alkisg> D_Eagle: well, I don't know what to tell you... I'm uploading a screenshot to see that it's enabled in mine...
[18:24] <ngirard> So I'm plugging this camera, and lsusb sees nothing...
[18:24] <ngirard> any hint ?
[18:24] <D_Eagle> okay.. i'll try formatting it...
[18:25] <alkisg> D_Eagle: http://www.imageshack.gr/view.php?file=z0bechzwu2qkfryj6lyh.png
[18:26] <torkiano> FieldySnuts: try: 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' in console
[18:29] <Gandrea> hey
[18:29] <arrrghhh> anyone heard of amahi?
[18:29] <Gandrea> to tell you the truth no
[18:30] <FieldySnuts> torkiano: okay. what will doing that accomplish?
[18:31] <arrrghhh> amahi looks very promising, but currently fedora only
[18:32] <slow-motion> hi
[18:33] <torkiano> FieldySnuts: update the list of software available and upgrade them
[18:33] <FieldySnuts> gotchya. so basically the same thing as doing fetch / full upgrade / apply in adept. brb
[18:34] <shadeslayer> is it just me or did the panel just turn blue in RC1
[18:34] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: did, blueish
[18:34] <shadeslayer> Tm_T:why did they change it,loved the black one
[18:34] <FieldySnuts> torkiano: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.         so it seems that and adept are on the same page (a good thing)
[18:35] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: because they liked to change it
[18:35] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:35] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: there's many different kind of themes for plasma, choose the one you like most
[18:35] <shadeslayer> yeah doing that now
[18:35] <shadeslayer> but its much better now
[18:36] <shadeslayer> the KDE not giving me a random crash now and then
[18:36] <ward_> does somebody knows how to fix an svn: Missing node-id in node-rev :) ? sorry not kubuntu related
[18:37] <torkiano> FieldySnuts: yeah, is wifi working now?
[18:38] <FieldySnuts> torkiano: it is yeah, i just had to manually tell it to also update the kernel ubuntu and restricted modules. something it took care of in the past when updating the kernel. i'll just have to watch out for that in the future
[18:42] <FieldySnuts> anyway that's my monthly laptop update -- just took longer with the wireless issue -- take care :)
[18:42] <torkiano> Note that you have installed linux-restricted-modules
[18:42] <torkiano> linux-restricted-modules
[18:43] <torkiano> linux-restricted-modules-generic
[18:44] <torkiano> and linux-generic
[18:44] <lengell> hallo zusammen
[18:44] <william__1310> hi
[18:45] <lengell> ist einn erster versuch von mir mit ubuntu
[18:45] <bazhang> lengell, english here
[18:45] <lengell> bin noch etwas hilflos
[18:45] <lengell> aber es funktioniert
[18:45] <dominique> !de
[18:45] <bazhang> #ubuntu-de for german lengell
[18:46] <bazhang> alsk #kubuntu-de lengell
[18:46] <dominique> lengell: Bitte betrete den Raum kubuntu-de um Hilfe auf deutsch zu erhalten.
[18:51] <mini-man> dunno fi this is the place to ask, but the amarok-nightly from kde-nightly's fonts are all messed up, no idea how to fix it
[18:52] <mini-man> they're like Sans 12 it seems, and they don't obey my global font settings
[18:52] <mini-man> which is DejaVu Sans 9
[18:54] <Frederick> folks what is this transparent pane called desktop I see on kubuntu?
[18:54] <D_Eagle> dashboard?
[18:55] <dabear_> "the panel" ? :p
[18:55] <Frederick> yes
[18:55] <Frederick> what do I use it or?
[18:55] <NamShub> i think you're talking about the folder view wdigets
[18:55] <NamShub> widget
[18:56] <NamShub> it displayes the content of your desktop folder (bt default, you can change config for another folder)
[18:56] <D_Eagle> did u mean dashboard??
[18:56] <D_Eagle> it will temporarily bring all widgets in your desktop over any open window
[18:57] <Frederick> hm... cool
[18:57] <Frederick> One more question.What is this problem about enabling IOMMU option for RAM in bios ubuntu reports me about?
[18:59] <matt___> I can use my bluetooth headset and cell phone with Kubuntu fine..but when trying to use a program such as blueproximty..it won't detect anything...even though BOTH are paired with linux. Any idea where to start?
[19:05] <shadeslayer> how do i install a bootspalsh different from the default one
[19:05] <shadeslayer> *bootsplash
[19:06] <dstar> hmm... with the ATI fglrx driver, what AccelMethod should I use? XAA? EXA? I can't figure out what it supports....
[19:07] <Vicus> Salve,
[19:07] <Vicus> c'è qualcuno che se ne intende di putty e adattatori usb rs232§
[19:07] <Vicus> ?
[19:07] <dstar> Alternatively, if I'm not using 3D stuff, should I be using the radeonhd driver instead?
[19:07] <Pici> !it | Vicus
[19:08] <Vicus> Ops
[19:08] <Vicus> Thanks
[19:12] <shadeslayer> found it by myself \
[19:13] <kapi> #nuhro
[19:15] <kapi> join #nuhro
[19:16] <kapi> join# ljlö
[19:16] <c0p3rn1c> how do I get my khelpcenter to work?
[19:18] <marek_> hi, i have only one question, im using ff3 on kde4, i set system color theme to dark, and now, almost every text input field is totally unreadable - dark background and dark text, can i do something with it?
[19:19] <dominique> how to set system clock?
[19:20] <marek_> dominique kde3 or kde4?
[19:20] <kottlett> dominique: simplest way is using ntp, just run ntpdate-debian as root
[19:24] <shawn__> hey guys
[19:24] <shawn__> i love kubuntu how about you all??
[19:25] <limeaids> i prefer gnome
[19:25] <shawn__> ew, i guess it's okay but i prefer KDE :D
[19:26] <shawn__> thats why we live in america :)
[19:26] <shawn__> so we can choose and not be forced
[19:28] <draik> Generally speaking: Do the commands in Kubuntu vary to those in Redhat, BSD and Fedora?
[19:28] <mitsarionas> hi... does anyone know if there's an fglrx version that works with jaunty?
[19:29] <mitsarionas> or if it's easy to get jaunty working with xserver 1.5
[19:31] <lee1> hi
[19:34] <dominique> shawn__: rofl...
[19:35] <khakane> where do i change the shadowing etc for things in the bottom bar in kubuntu
[19:35] <ahmos> hi ,couls someone tell me please what is the best ocr program i can use?!
[19:37] <khakane> anyone?
[19:38] <bazhang> !ocr
[19:40] <ahmos> thank's
[19:42] <JackWinter> i just discovered the joy of doing startx -- :3 to open an additional shell.  how can i stop it from auto opening the same program i have in my primary kde shell ?
[19:42] <khakane> http://www.bigafro.org/darktask.png
[19:42] <khakane> the stuff at bottom is what im trying to fix
[19:43] <khakane> http://www.bigafro.org/darktask.png  could someone help me fix the dark/shadowed text at the bottom?
[19:44] <shawn__> hmm not sure, how do you get it full width like that?
[19:44] <shawn__> im also having an issue with the taskbar icons, they get messed up something or have a black square background
[19:49] <khakane> grrr
[19:50] <khakane> fixed it
[19:50] <khakane> just reset oxygen ;)
[19:50] <dstar> Does anyone know if fglrx supports EXA acceleration?
[19:56] <shawn__> hmm not sure, you could probably google it tho
[19:57] <shawn__> sorry to inform you, fglrx does not support EXA at this time
[19:57] <matt____> I'm trying to setup TeamSpeak. I have my bluetooth headset paired with my computer. Is /dev/dsp* my bluetooth headset? Does it mount it that way? I've been using skype with alsa....help!
[19:58] <denis_> !de
[19:59] <dstar> shawn__: thanks
[19:59] <shawn__> you are welcome. maybe some day tho :D
[19:59] <matt____> Or at least an idea of what channel to go to?
[20:03] <shawn__> teamspeak hmm
[20:04] <matt____> shawn__: Yep. I use skype with alsa...works perfect. However..in the settings for teamspeak..it seams it has "default (oss /dev/dsp), default network (8787:L), or "other", where you can select a device. BUT does my bluetooth headset create anything in /dev?
[20:05] <shawn__> hmm hold on a sec
[20:07] <shawn__> looks like a bluetooth headset will have a device name of /dev/rfcomm*
[20:07] <shawn__> such as /dev/rfcomm0
[20:07] <matt____> shawn__: I just found that...but I don't...
[20:08] <shawn__> oh hmmmm
[20:10] <matt____> shawn__: This is confusing.
[20:12] <raidenovich2> hey, i installed kubuntu on my pc but when i type df -h i get weird results for my harddisk
[20:12] <raidenovich2> ./dev/sda1 		912G	93G 773G 11%
[20:13] <shawn__> yeah
[20:13] <raidenovich2> why? : /
[20:13] <dstar> raidenovich2: part of the free space is reserved for the root user
[20:14] <raidenovich2> part? thats 40gb at least..
[20:15] <shawn__> i have to go, bye guys!
[20:15] <raidenovich2> bye shawn__
[20:16] <dstar> raidenovich2: 5% by default, I think. It can be tuned if necessary, IIRC, but you probably don't -- if you keep at least that much space free on an ext2/3fs filesystem, you get much better performance
[20:16] <xevix> is there egroupware integration with KDE 4?  i can't find any guides on how to make egroupware work in korganizer etc.
[20:18] <raidenovich2> ah ok thank you dstar i thought its an hdd error :)
[20:18] <dstar> raidenovich2: it keeps your filesystem from getting fragmented, IIRC
[20:18] <raidenovich2> automatically?
[20:20] <dstar> raidenovich2: right -- it has to do with the way the filesystem does writes.
[20:21] <raidenovich2> sounds pretty good :) thank you dstar
[20:21] <dstar> raidenovich2: no problem
[20:25] <ISF> hi. i'm having problem booting kubuntu 8.10 live cd. After language and boot type select, ando loading logo, the screen goes pink and i can't see nothing (doesn't work even with secure graphics mode). My machine is a athlon xp 2400+ 1gb ram gforce6200 (i've succesfuly booted the same disk on a p3 however)
[20:25] <techbw> hi all, how can I get my keyboard shortcut for adjusting volume to work, also when adjusting audio volume using master channel, there is no effect on the volume, I have to use PCM to adjust the volume
[20:25] <techbw> ISF: have you tried safe options?
[20:35] <JackWinter> i just discovered the joy of doing startx -- :3 to open an additional shell.  how can i stop kde from auto opening the same program i have in my primary kde shell ?
[20:36] <stefano> hello
[20:37] <ae> lo stefano
[20:37] <stefano> !list
[20:40] <matt____> !list
[20:41] <matt____> !language
[20:41] <etech> hi
[20:42] <etech> when i now install kde4.2 in kubuntu 8.10, will there be problems later when i upgrade to jaunty(which will also have kde4.2)?
[20:48] <arrrghhh> anyone heard of amahi?
[20:48] <arrrghhh> etech, i wouldn't think so
[20:49] <bofrost> hi, i updatet my kubuntu to 8.10 now the x server isnt working anymore, i tryed to reinstall atidrivers but everytime i type in aticonfig --initial i get a Segmentation fault
[20:53] <ISF> hi someone know how to force kubuntu 8.10 live cd to boot with a specified resolution (i.e 800x600, 1024x768)
[20:54] <xerosis> etech: it will be fine, I've done it myself
[20:54] <dfrey> I just got a wireless PCI card for my PC with Ubuntu.  In knetworkmanager, I can see some wireless access points, but not mine.  I have tried disabling security on the router and it did not help.  Any ideas?
[20:55] <dfrey> wait.... it has magically appeared
[20:56] <ae> Help, because i'm french and my version of kunbuntu 8.10 if half in english, and half in french. Is not clean! And Adept program don't show the new program :-( I download the DVD for don't problem ?
[21:00] <xeelkorcx> bonsoir
[21:12] <bofrost> Hi, does the ati driver work under 8.10? or do i have to use an other driver?
[21:20] <starenka> hi. is there a way how to get similar behaviour as Kde4' "window presenter" in kde 3.5 + compiz?
[21:20] <nielsslot> bofrost: open source ati drivers works most of the time in 8.10.. otherwise there is the closed source fglrx drivers, which works fine, most of the time
[21:21] <nielsslot> so it's basically trying which one works best.. but it should work
[21:24] <bofrost> ah ok thanks .... i got it working
[21:25] <botch> hello there
[21:25] <botch> i'm wondering about bluetooth (re)integration in intrepid
[21:25] <botch> anyone knows some recent infos about it?
[21:26] <botch> will i get good bluetooth integration back with the KDE 4.2 updates?
[21:26] <liz_> hello all, how can I find out how much video ram I have or is in use in kubuntu??
[21:28] <nielsslot> botch: looks like it's still not fixed yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/280997
[21:28] <botch> nielsslot: thanks for the link..
[21:29] <nielsslot> it was in the release notes of intrepid :)
[21:29] <Zvezdichko> Good evening there
[21:29] <Zvezdichko> :)
[21:34] <marisol> alguien me puede ayudar con mi tarjeta grafica
[21:34] <marisol>  alguien me puede ayudar con mi tarjeta grafica
[21:35] <JackWinter> !es | marisol
[21:51] <thorns> Will kde 4.2 update the current kde 4.1 in intrepid or is it current only in jaunty?
[22:12] <christopher> Looking for help with a wine question: I have a keychain digital pic frame that runs an exe to let me download pictures onto it..... not finding a way in wine, but then again, I'm not too savvy with wine either. Any help please?
[22:34] <Borg^Zap> i mounted a windows partition and i need to get into the Documents and Settings dir and i need to know how to enter the spaces
[22:34] <guedressel> Borg^Zap: ok - whats your problem?
[22:34] <p_quarles> Borg^Zap: you can escape spaces with either quote marks of \
[22:36] <Borg^Zap> ok so im trying to copy a dir and i need to put in "cp /hda1/Documants and Settings/*" how do i make that work?
[22:36] <guedressel> A) you use quotes "path"
[22:36] <p_quarles> Borg^Zap: by using \ or " to escape the spaces
[22:37] <Borg^Zap> ok thanks
[22:37] <guedressel> B) you escape the bad chars like p_quarles tells you
[22:54] <ubuntu_> ...
[22:55] <zetheroo> ﻿ok .. at first I was told that this was simply not possible ... but now its happening to more people .. Ubuntu Intrepid causes Kernel Panics and yet on the same system Kubuntu Intrepid does not! --
[23:04] <zer0o> guys how do i manually install a downloaded program from a terminal? there's no instruction in the file and its a srv
[23:06] <jussi01> !nickspam > esay_uzak
[23:06] <jussi01> zer0o: err, what exactly do you mean?
[23:06] <zer0o> i downloaded an application from a website
[23:06] <zer0o> how do i manually install it?
[23:07] <jussi01> zer0o: ahh, what app is it?
[23:07] <zer0o> ive already unzipped it and put it in my home
[23:07] <zer0o> now?
[23:07] <zer0o> there's no instructions in the file
[23:07] <zer0o> and is not in the repos
[23:07] <jussi01> ie. can you give me a link to have a look?
[23:07] <zer0o> teeworlds
[23:07] <zer0o> http://teeworlds.com/
[23:08] <jussi01> zer0o: its in the repos here...
[23:08] <cinar> Selam iyi geceler
[23:08] <zer0o> ive got hardy
[23:08] <zer0o> maybe is not in mine
[23:08] <zer0o> anyway
[23:08] <jussi01> !tr | cinar
[23:08] <zer0o> isnt there a command? to type in the terminal?
[23:08] <cinar> Thank You! zer0o
[23:09] <zer0o> o_O ?
[23:09] <jussi01> !info teeworlds hardy
[23:09] <cilkay> Hello. I've added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main" to /etc/apt/sources.list, ran apt-get update and then attempted to apt-get install kde-nightly-kdebase but no such package was found. If I examine the repo using a browser, I can see the kde packages. Why isn't apt-get finding them?
[23:09] <zer0o> see
[23:09] <zer0o> so how do i do?
[23:09] <jussi01> zer0o: patience!
[23:09] <cilkay> I want to try the KDE nightly packages in Hardy without blowing away KDE 3x.
[23:09] <zer0o> sure, i wasnt being impatient... i was only asking
[23:09] <zer0o> :D
[23:09] <jussi01> cilkay: #amarok.neon
[23:10] <cilkay> thanks jussi01
[23:11] <cilkay> It's a strangely-named channel.
[23:11] <jussi01> zer0o: ahh its an easy one
[23:11] <jussi01> zer0o: cd into the folder
[23:11] <jussi01> then simply do: ./teeworlds
[23:12] <zer0o> no way
[23:12] <zer0o> how did u find out?
[23:13] <jussi01> zer0o: I downloaded it and looked...
[23:13] <zer0o> bash: ./teeworlds: No such file or directory >>> but when u open a terminal u r in ur home, so how's that possible?
[23:15] <zer0o> i think im missing something, i downloaded the file and unzipped it into my home so now i have teeworlds-0.5.0-linux_x86 in my home
[23:15] <jussi01> zer0o: its in a folder cd teeworlds-0.5.0-linux_x86
[23:16] <zer0o> so it doesnt need any installation
[23:16] <zer0o> its a kind of bootable package
[23:16] <zer0o> right?
[23:16] <jussi01> zer0o: yeah, its compiled alread
[23:16] <jussi01> y
[23:17] <zer0o> well how do i add it on my kmenu > games ?
[23:19] <jussi01> zer0o: thats a little more complicated and I cant for the life of me remember how kde3 does it
[23:20] <zer0o> can u explain it for kde4 and i'll try to "translate" it for me?
[23:20] <killermach> is there a GUI tool for setting up NFS?
[23:20] <zer0o> btw, are u able to play? when i start it i click on "connect" and it tries to connect to "localhost:8303" but it doesnt start and remains like this 4ever
[23:22] <BlueEagle> !u
[23:23] <xL__> hey all
[23:23] <dabear_> y r u so mad @ him, typin' u instead o' you saves tim u noww!
[23:23] <dabear_> 11
[23:23] <killermach> BlueEagle: awesome.. another super hero fighting lazy  where ever it is :)
[23:24] <gnuton> Hi there
[23:24] <BlueEagle> killermach: :)
[23:25] <gnuton> I can't see kdm using XDMCP... any hints?
[23:25] <xL__> hi gnuton
[23:25] <gnuton> hey xL__
[23:25] <gnuton> it shows a empty X11 screen...
[23:25] <xL__> gnuton: how are you
[23:25] <xL__> ?
[23:26] <gnuton> xL__: i'm fine thanx.. just a bit tired..
[23:26] <gnuton> xL__: and u?
[23:26] <xL__> me too
[23:26] <gnuton> xL__: where are u from?
[23:26] <gnuton> are u european?
[23:26] <xL__> like dead :))
[23:27] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> How do I end a runaway WINE process? I can't find it in KSysGuard
[23:27] <xL__> yes ,, where are toy from?
[23:27] <ngirard> Hi all. On kubuntu 8.10, after upgrading, i've found my control panel to be empty. Any thoughts ?
[23:27] <gnuton> Blitzz|Kubuntu: try to run ps -ax | grep wine
[23:27] <gnuton> xL__: I'm italian
[23:28] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> arning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'?
[23:28] <gnuton> xL__: but I live in finland
[23:28] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> *Warning
[23:28] <gnuton> Blitzz|Kubuntu: it works for me. Try to run without the '-'
[23:28] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> I get nothing
[23:29] <gnuton> Blitzz|Kubuntu: so you don't have any wine process running :P
[23:29] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> Yes I do
[23:29] <xL__> ping me pls :)))
[23:29] <gnuton> xL__: thank you for versioning me :P
[23:29] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> It's stuck and on a repeating sound buffer and it's on the taskbar
[23:29] <gnuton> xL__: why have I to ping u? :P
[23:29] <xL__> you are very polite gnuton
[23:30] <xL__> to see if i am alive hahahaha
[23:30] <gnuton> xL__: :D
[23:30] <gnuton> xL__: are u german?
[23:31] <xL__> no i am from Greek
[23:31] <gnuton> usually most of people are german. So thinking that everyone is german is a good approximation :D
[23:31] <xL__> Greece
[23:31] <xL__> i mean
[23:31] <gnuton> xL__: :D
[23:31] <gnuton> xL__: I really like the greece :D
[23:32] <maxbaldwin> !gc
[23:32] <maxbaldwin> greece.... gr? gc?
[23:32] <bazhang> !gr
[23:32] <xL__> i like finland too
[23:32] <gnuton> xL__: my parents live in Taranto.. that is very close to patrasso :D
[23:32] <xL__> gr
[23:32] <gnuton> xL__: the finland is too dark and cold.
[23:33] <neoTheCat> how do i setup wireless, or can someone point me to somewhere that shows, how i can get wireless as soon as i bootup? i do not want to use knetwork manager.
[23:33] <gnuton> xL__: But the finland have a lot of beautifl girls! :D
[23:34] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> I don't understand this.
[23:34] <xL__> i like girls :)))
[23:34] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> How do I kill a program that doesn't even have a visible process?
[23:34] <gnuton> neoTheCat: I'm not sure about that.. but I think that you can have a look to  /etc/network/interfaces
[23:34] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> ...Or a working Close menu option
[23:34] <gnuton> neoTheCat: you should put there something to set your lan
[23:35] <gnuton> Blitzz|Kubuntu: you can't kill a program not visibile... simply because all the process are visible! :P
[23:35] <neoTheCat> gnuton:  yeah, i have everything setup in there, and it *looks* correct, but when i restart networking, DHCPDISCOVER keeps timing out
[23:35] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> Then why is the program running and in the taskbar?
[23:36] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> Also, my Mute doesn't work.
[23:36] <gnuton> neoTheCat: ... I can't help you so..  I never hadn't that problem
[23:36] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> So that I can shut off the stupid program's constant buzzing
[23:36] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> Ugggh, I give up.
[23:36] <neoTheCat> okalee dokalee.  thanks.
[23:37] <gnuton> :D
[23:37] <gnuton> Poor blizzz :P
[23:37] <blizzz> i don't think so ^^
[23:44] <m_tadeu> hi...how can I connect to an access point with a hidden essid
[23:45] <killermach> what packages do I need to install for ldap server?
[23:46] <MikeH> Anyone here managed to sync their N95 (Or other S60 phone) with Kontact?
[23:50] <Guest51> hi
[23:52] <dare1> how to install kcontrol in ubuntu?
[23:53] <gordon_> Hello
[23:54] <gordon_> I got a question or two...I hope someone can help
[23:54] <Guest9453> m_tadeu: if you know the ssid, just type it in i think
[23:55] <m_tadeu> doesn't work...
[23:55] <m_tadeu> it only works when the router is broadcasting the ssid
[23:58] <gordon_> With Wine installed can you install a Windows based software right from its original disk?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> hi all, does anyone play penumbra? When I execute the game it seems to have a display capability beyond what my monitor will display. Can anyone please advise?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> gordon_: yes, just run wine /path/to/setup.exe after you mount the cd (assuming setup.exe is the appname ion the cd)
[23:59] <gordon_> Thanks...I want to install COD4 and run it from Wine...Im new to Linux