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lamalexDoes anyone know the status of per project PQM instances?00:59
edgarhello everyone01:30
edgarI'm trying to log in now, and I cant, I get a Try again messages01:31
edgaris launchpad in maintenance now?01:32
edgarit seems that no one is here now01:33
KragenSitakerHi.  https://launchpad.net/liveusb/+download is broken; it says to complain here, since the problem is persisting.01:40
functionofxyanyone else unable to reach bugs.launchpad.net?01:40
KragenSitakerI'm not sure if this is actually a good idea but I'm here to do my bug-reporting duty!01:41
functionofxy"Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server."01:41
galathilI was trying to register a project but I got the "Please try again" page. Overall the site has been very slow today.01:42
cesarbIt is broken because it is slashdotted: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/17/212725401:46
KragenSitakeroh, thanks, cesarb01:48
KragenSitakerso it should spontaneously work again in a couple of hours01:48
KragenSitakerand we should just hit reload as fast and as hard as possible until then?  (just kidding.)01:48
emgentplease put launchpad usable..01:51
emgentit is really slow and go in timeout always.01:51
emgentgood night.01:54
pphey folks, what's up with the PPA's? my package built successfully, but is "Pending" since about two hours (i.e. not "Published")01:54
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tessa_homeHello.  I'm having trouble using the https://staging.launchpad.net/ site07:35
tessa_homeSorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.07:36
detppa.launchpad.net is down ?09:21
detI am unable to use dput09:21
det"Connection refused"09:22
rippsis ppa.launchpad.net down? I keep getting  "(111, 'Connection refused')" from dput09:45
lidaobingripps, me too09:47
rippslidaobing: that makes me a little more comfortable, 'cause that means it's probably not my fault then.09:48
lidaobingripps, :-)09:49
rippsDid I just see tumbleweed roll by?09:58
detI have same problem10:45
det(can't upload to launchpad using dput, "connection refused")10:45
petskisame here lidaobing, ripps and det ....11:21
wgrantcprov: ^^11:21
wgrantHopefully he or somebody else will be around within a few hours.11:23
wgrantOr hopefully somebody will respond to the Nagios alerts that must be flying everywhere. But that seems too optimistic.11:23
ubottuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.11:27
wgrantThat's right.11:32
zirodayHi, I live in Singapore and me and some other users who are trying to bzr pull keep getting 104 errors. Any ideas why?11:44
zirodayCurrently I have to pull from my VPS and then rsync the files over. Very irritating.11:44
petskiziroday: launchpad's PPA is "down" as well, maybe there's a relation11:59
zirodaypetski: well this has been like for a while now. ~ 2 months11:59
petskiany clues when you add --verbose?12:01
zirodaypetski: sure, gimme a sec12:02
kiko-afkla la la12:05
kiko-afkpetski, it /was/ down last night -- is it still up?12:05
kiko-afkziroday, there's no connection -- 104 errors? what's a 104?12:05
petskipet@workmate:~/work$ nc ppa.launchpad.net 2112:05
petskippa.launchpad.net [] 21 (ftp) : Connection refused12:05
zirodaykiko-afk: erm Connection Timed Out or something similar.12:05
kiko-afkpetski, interesting, let me make a phone call then.12:05
petskithanks kiko12:06
kiko-afkziroday, is there a bug filed on this one? it is most likely to be something being filtered on your end12:06
zirodaykiko-afk: probably, we have some nasty government filters here and such12:06
zirodaykiko-afk: petski: just waiting for it to fail so I can pastebin the whole lot to  you12:07
kiko-afkziroday, so bzr (if using bzr+ssh) uses ssh to pull and push. do you know, is ssh okay for you?12:08
kiko-afkpetski, woke cprov up :-/ he's a bit miffed that we don't know why this is happening but he will look in a little bit12:09
zirodaykiko-afk: err I'm just using normal bzr as far as I can tell12:09
kiko-afkpetski, since when has it been broken to your knowledge?12:09
kiko-afkziroday, sure but exactly how are you pushing or pulling?12:09
zirodaykiko-afk: by doing $ bzr branch lp:do12:09
kiko-afkziroday, which expands to...? bzr+ssh or sftp:?12:10
zirodaysorry, branching not pulling12:10
kiko-afkit's the same more or less12:10
zirodaykiko-afk: well here is the progress so far http://pastebin.com/mbbb3c5312:10
petskikiko-afk: well, first time I tried was ~ 11:00 CET12:10
kiko-afkpetski, thanks -- seen anything reported anywhere about this?12:11
petskiziroday: the clue is in the output12:11
kiko-afkpetski, well, branching should be okay even anonymously12:11
petskikiko-afk: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/5790312:11
zirodaypetski: I'm not doing writes, only trying to branch12:12
wgrantkiko-afk: Why didn't people wake up soon after it went down and Nagios told them?12:12
zirodaypetski: and this has been going on for a loong time12:12
kiko-afkwgrant, nagios only wakes IS up? :)12:13
wgrantkiko-afk: IS is a member of the people I referred to earlier.12:14
wgrantOr does IS not control germanium?12:14
kiko-afkyeah, they do, but I don't know if nagios monitors PPA port 22. you make a good point though, I'll ask RT.12:15
kiko-afkwgrant, or maybe it's just that PPA isn't wake-up-IS level12:15
kiko-afkwgrant, it's sunday. be lenient. :)12:15
wgrantThe open source community lives on weekends!12:15
cprove aí, bonitões ?!12:16
* wgrant only speaks English well, unfortunately.12:17
cprovwgrant: I'm kidding ;) PPA poppy is back !12:19
rippsWhaha! dput works!12:20
wgrantcprov: Excellent. Worked out why it died yet?12:20
cprovwgrant: no, I will dig a little bit more.12:22
kiko-afkpetski, ^^^12:23
kiko-afkziroday, okay, it's interesting. it sounds like the problem is actually the connection dropping mid-stream -- meaning it /could/ succeed12:24
petskiziroday: same command doesn't give any issues here. I think the next step would be to run a sniffer meanwhile, to track down the issue12:24
kiko-afkpetski, I think it's just flakiness12:24
zirodaykiko-afk: well of course its running just perfectly now :)12:24
kiko-afkunless we can establish it's always at the exact same spot12:24
zirodaykiko-afk: it probably is just the nasty government internet. If it errors out again I'll make sure to catch it and come back here12:25
petskikiko-afk: confirming that PPA works again :) I'll follow up the https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/5790312:27
kiko-afkwill check with IS on RT12:29
kiko-afktruly afk now, back later13:20
cprovwgrant: looks like your PPA just got a signing-key. Enjoy it !13:42
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maxbooh, is the full PPA signing-key generation now churning? Or is it just limited testing still?14:56
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vadi2Can loggerhead show me a diff between multiple revisions? Atm I only see how to see a diff of the previous revision only17:06
kfogelProcess question: there are two terms floating around: "merge proposal cover letter" and "PQM commit message".  The first is for when sending a set of commits (created in bzr, sent together as a bundle, you want to give the bundle a cover letter).  The second is for someone to make release notes from the change as recorded in PQM.  (See https://dev.launchpad.net/CoverLetters and https://dev.launchpad.net/PQMCommitMessages).  My quest17:19
kfogelion is: aren't these the same thing?  If they're not, what is the difference?17:19
Rocket2DMnjust out of curiosity, what is going on with LP, it's been acting up17:27
kfogelRocket2DMn: "acting up"?17:29
kfogelThere were some PPA problems fixed yesterday or today, IIRC, but other than that I don't know about anything.17:29
spitfire_epsy: how do you uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ17:29
Rocket2DMnkfogel, ive been getting some errors17:29
epsyjust write upside-down17:30
spitfire_upside-down doesn't work :P17:30
epsyit does!17:30
mdkevadi2: see the "Compare with another revision" button at the top of the page. I don't know whether it works because firefox crashes each time I click on it, but it seems to describe what you want17:30
james_wkfogel: they are separate as there is no automatic mechanism to transform one in to the other. They will have slightly different audiences too. Seeding the PQM commit message from the cover letter might be a good idea though.17:31
spitfire_epsy: how?17:33
epsydamn, won't you get it? JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!17:33
kfogelspitfire_: I'd very much like to know how you did that :-).17:33
kfogeljames_w: thx17:34
spitfire_UPSIDE-DOWN upside-down17:35
spitfire_epsy: great17:35
spitfire_epsy: I don't see it working.17:35
spitfire_kfogel: i didn't17:35
spitfire_kfogel: epsy did17:35
spitfire_I've only copied that:P17:36
epsyubottu: google flip text17:36
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:36
spitfire_ubottu: google "flip text"17:36
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:36
kfogelepsy, spitfire_: ¡sʞuɐɥʇ17:36
spitfire_kfogel: how:P ?17:37
spitfire_ʎsdǝ .xɥʇ ¡sʞɹoʍ ʇı17:38
epsyubottu: list17:39
ubottuHi! I'm #launchpad's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots17:39
sitsis launchpad still broken due to slashdot? ( http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/01/18/%23launchpad.html )17:58
sitsand should the error message not quite be centred properly?17:58
* ScottK thought Launchpad was broken due to Launchpad?18:02
sitsScottK: oh18:05
PaSzCzUsi`m still getting message:18:05
PaSzCzUs Please try again18:05
PaSzCzUsSorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.18:05
PaSzCzUs Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.18:05
PaSzCzUsThanks for your patience.18:05
PaSzCzUsi`m trying to add a bug in pld-linux for about 30 minutes !18:05
PaSzCzUsand still cannot do that18:06
doctormoEr, is launchpad down today?18:06
PaSzCzUsdoctormo: no, it just sux , but not only today18:07
doctormoPaSzCzUs: smart arse18:07
PaSzCzUsdoctormo: i am trying to add bug for about 30 minutes18:07
PaSzCzUsso i`m pretty angry18:07
ScottKToday is worse than usual.18:07
svenit seems so18:08
blueyedLaunchpad down?18:08
doctormoPaSzCzUs: I actually think the devel features are quite good,18:08
doctormoWell I keep on getting "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. "18:08
* blueyed too18:08
ralphGetting "Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode." for    https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22245818:09
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/222458/+text)18:10
ralphGetting it repeatedly, that is.  Not just once.18:10
* ST47 can't access bugs.launchpad.net "sorrt, there was a problem connecting to the launchpad server. Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know here"18:10
PaSzCzUsralph: you are not tha one18:10
jauntytesterhi! launchpad is down. is there an irc-channel, where i can post minor jaunty bugs?18:10
ralphIf it's a known problem, perhaps someone can change the channel's topic or chanserv's welcome message?18:10
blueyedjauntytester: no, please keep them in e.g. a text file and post them later..18:11
linkmaster03launchpad down for anyone else?18:11
Evergetefor me is down18:11
shirishhi all, launchpad doesn't seem to be responding18:12
ScottKjauntytester: Not really.18:12
jauntytesteri know18:12
jauntytesterbut it says, it's down18:12
shirishScottK: http://pastebin.com/f692f21fe18:14
jauntytesterdo you guys think, it would be a good idea to donate an appilicationserver to launchpad?18:14
shirishthis is what its saying18:14
shirishjauntytester: I believe they are waiting for some hardware to come in, atleast that's what I read somewhere.18:14
shirishScottK: if you can or know who the channel admin, atleast change the topic so users know its down for some reason or the other.18:15
attiladoes launchpad translations page has a problem??18:17
blueyedattila: yes, LP.net seems to be down..18:17
jauntytesterwe have got an hp with 8 intel quadcores but only 6 gb ddr3-ram. we can't use it ... i will try to convince my colleges to donate that thing18:17
DxCah yeah, seems I'm not the first to report it18:17
attilait f**ed up my translations18:18
blueyedattila: keep the browser window open and try re-submitting it (press F5, which should inform you about re-POSTing the data)18:19
blueyed..but it may take a while until LP.net is up again..18:19
attilatired to enter lp again18:19
attilaeverytihing should be lost18:20
blueyedattila: so, you don't have the window open anymore?18:20
attilaI will translate them again18:20
attilai have18:20
attilabut entered address www.launchpad.net again18:20
attila Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.18:21
attilaTry reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.18:21
blueyedattila: then, maybe going back will try the re-POST-thingy.18:21
attilais written on the page18:21
attilaok i will try18:21
blueyedattila: yes, we know.. it's just about saving/keeping your work now..18:21
attilathanks for help18:22
blueyedattila: it won't work currently, but when lp.net is up again, you could re-POST the translations.18:22
attilaif i can not18:22
blueyedattila: np18:22
attilathen will do the job again18:22
attilano way :)18:22
jauntytestershirish: we will ask some guy at launchpad if it's compatible18:23
shirishjauntytester: post that on the launchpadusers mailing list, there is possibility that somebody from launchpad may be interested, although dunno about shipping and all that stuff.18:26
jauntytesterlol that thing is havy as hell ;)18:26
linkmaster03lp is back :D18:38
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wgrantcprov-afk: Awesome! However, I suspect that you want to recommend in documentation that owners should sign the key after verifying the fingerprint.20:13
cprov-afkwgrant: yes, but it's not strictly necessary since the public keys are in the keyservers web.20:27
wgrantcprov-afk: Also, is there a way to force dirtying of pockets without copying and deleting into each distroseries (say, through the API like branches)?20:39
wgrant(it's useful when people change their username, and it'd be nice to use it now...)20:40
encbladexphello @all20:43
encbladexpi have one Small Question about the SVN Sync in Launchpad for https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pyneighborhood/trunk20:43
wgrant!ask | encbladexp20:45
ubottuencbladexp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:45
encbladexpokay, how long tokes it to get a working SVN Sync for my small Project (using SVN)20:46
wgrantYou need a VCS imports operator approve it for you. That normally happens within a working day or two.20:47
wgrantAnd you need to not be using an awful svn server like Google Code, but you look good for that.20:47
encbladexphmm, i see some Project waiting for 34 Weeks or more for beeing Approved20:47
encbladexpi have my own SVN Server (since 2 Weeks), the old SourceForge Server was very slow (and sometimes offline)20:48
wgrantencbladexp: In most cases the old unapproved ones probably had a problem found with them. But that's just speculation and a bit of looking at the whiteboards of old ones.20:50
* wgrant must now run off to work.20:51
encbladexpok, thx for the Infos20:55
thumperencbladexp: I'll look now for you20:55
johanbrHi guys. The "Resulting binaries" links on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/2.25.4-1ubuntu1/+build/841142 are broken. Is this a launchpad bug or something else?20:55
thumperpyneighborhood import approved20:56
thumperjohanbr: my stab in the dark is that it isn't LPs fault20:57
johanbrthumper: Alright. By the way, the same thing happens for the previous version of the package, built several weeks ago. In case that gives a hint.20:58
thumperjohanbr: sorry I don't know much about PPAs20:58
thumperor soyus as a whole20:59
johanbrI meant to write "it's not a ppa"20:59
thumperYeah, just noticed that too20:59
thumperstill, the builders that are used are pretty robust20:59
thumperso if there are broken binaries, chances are there is broken code20:59
thumperI guess it could be a dependancy problem ...21:00
johanbrhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/2.25.4-1ubuntu1 says the package was built successfully21:00
* thumper waves hands21:00
thumperjohanbr: sorry, really don't know21:00
johanbrOkay. Thanks anyway.21:00
encbladexpthumper: Thanks :-D21:02
thumperencbladexp: np21:02
* encbladexp sets status to: Happy *g*21:02
encbladexpLaunchpad goes OSS, i there any Chance of Direct SVN (or hg, or git) Support?21:03
thumperencbladexp: unlikely21:05
thumperalthough we are going to get git imports soon21:05
thumperusing bzr-git21:05
thumperI say unlikely at this stage21:05
thumperas with any large project, change takes time21:05
encbladexpthe future may show21:07
leoquantwhois leoquant21:30
djsiegel1Hi, is there any way to link my revisions to my LP identity after the fact?21:37
djsiegel1I just realized that most of the revisions I've ever made are not linked to me.21:37
spmdjsiegel1: I believe no. Had a similar problem myself from importing from the original SVN repo into bzr.21:41
thumperdjsiegel1: it depends21:41
thumperdjsiegel1: if your revision author property had an email address in it21:41
thumperdjsiegel1: then if you let Launchpad know that the email is linked to you, then the revisions get linked to you21:42
djsiegel1No, it did not, unfortunately.21:42
thumperdjsiegel1: in that case, no, sorry21:42
djsiegel1Why is my SSH key not sufficient to establish my identity?21:43
thumperdjsiegel1: since bzr is a distributed VCS, just because you push changes up, doesn't mean that you made them21:44
djsiegel1Ah, I see.21:44
thumperwe do the best we can to confirm21:44
maxbwoo, PPA keys are starting to show up on keyserver.ubuntu.com22:01
maxbLooks like it could be *quite* a while before the process is complete, though, based on the present rate22:01
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lpd79Hi. I am trying to customize / backport a kernel (linux_2.6.27-9.19.dsc)22:24
lpd79My goal is to update some ALSA stuff, upload the modified source to my PPA, and have the PPA compile the kernel image (ideally, a single configuration instead of generic/server/virtual)22:25
lpd79What is the best way to go about this? Any pointers? There are many tutorials on using make-kpkg, but none on modifying a linux-* source package22:25
lpd79Of course I want the new kernel and modules not to conflict with the initial package22:26
kiko-afklpd79, so...22:29
wgrantjohanbr: Because the binaries are in NEW, they don't have a Launchpad page yet. The bug was fixed yesterday; if you look on edge (https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/2.25.4-1ubuntu1/+build/841142) you'll see they're no longer linked.22:30
kiko-afklpd79, easiest way to do it is to grab the standard kernel source22:31
kiko-afklpd79, modify it, modify the changes and then upload it to your ppa22:31
wgrantkiko-afk: Ehehe, it's a bit more special than that.22:32
wgrantThe ABI checking breaks everything, and it takes approximately far too long to build all of the flavours. There is a special PPA mode you can set.22:32
kiko-afkwgrant, really?22:32
wgrantYes. It's really broken.22:33
kiko-afkwgrant, what PPA mode?22:33
wgrantAUTOBUILD, sorry.22:33
wgrantThat does something magical with the ABI suffix.22:34
wgrantAnd makes builds not fail.22:34
lpd79AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-FLAVOUR ?22:35
lpd79But this seems to create binary packages -- I want to create a *_source.changes that I can upload to my PPA?22:35
wgrantYou have to build the source and get the build to set those flags. Somebody must have done it before; Google around or check other PPAs.22:36
wgrant(debuild -S will build the source for you)22:36
johanbrwgrant: I see. Thank you.22:36
lpd79Thanks, of course debuild should do the trick (duh moment...). I've Googled quite a bit, but there isn't much about creating custom kernel source packages22:40
lpd79The tricky part is modifying the kernel package name (so it doesn't look like an upgrade to dpkg) and the vmlinuz-* name (so I don't override other modules and images)22:41
lpd79This stuff seems to be spread in many places in the debian/ directory22:42
wgrantHow long should it take after a branch rename for it to show up under that URL in loggerhead?23:47
jmlwgrant: ~1-2 minutes.23:49
wgrantjml: It took several minutes longer than that, but it does work now. Thanks.23:51
jmlwgrant: hmm.23:51
jmlwgrant: we've got a change in the pipeline that drops it down to ~1s (give or take replication lag).23:51
wgrantjml: How does it work now? mod_rewrite rules updated regularly?23:57
jmlwgrant: basically.23:59

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