[00:01] coppro: I think it is: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/openoffice.org [00:01] Package: openoffice.org (1:3.0.1~rc1-2ubuntu4) [00:01] spitfire: bug report link? [00:01] oh, so it is [00:01] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtpfs/+bug/301645 [00:01] Launchpad bug 301645 in mtpfs "Please sync mtpfs 0.8+svn11-1ubuntu1 to 0.9-1 from Debian (experimental)" [Undecided,New] [00:02] changed the topis as with libmtp;) [00:05] spitfire: did you try to build the new version in your PPA? [00:06] savvas: I've built them both locally. [00:06] they are waaaay faster than previous ones. [00:06] savvas: built them using pbuilder [00:08] spitfire: ok here's what you do: 1) bookmark https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess :) 2) since you aren't the person who submitted it, you are allowed to change the bug status from "new" to "confirmed": https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtpfs/+bug/301645/+editstatus [00:08] Launchpad bug 301645 in mtpfs "Please sync mtpfs 0.8+svn11-1ubuntu1 (universe) to 0.9-1 from Debian (experimental)" [Undecided,New] [00:10] spitfire: 3) subscribe yourself in the bug 4) provide GOOD reasons except for the fact that they've released a stable version (look in their changelog, find good changes and post them in your comment). [00:10] Launchpad bug 4 in rosetta "Importing finished po doesn't change progressbar" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4 [00:12] spitfire: 5) mtpfs is in universe (see here next to the version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mtpfs ), so you subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtpfs/+bug/301645/+addsubscriber [00:12] Launchpad bug 301645 in mtpfs "Please sync mtpfs 0.8+svn11-1ubuntu1 (universe) to 0.9-1 from Debian (experimental)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:12] and that's it :P [00:13] savvas: thanks for the guide;) [00:13] np === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [01:29] TheMuso: are you happy for me to upload the patch in bug 317496? [01:30] Launchpad bug 317496 in yasr "FTBFS in jaunty redefining openpty and forkpty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317496 [01:32] james_w: Go for it. [01:32] thanks TheMuso [01:36] 'ow do lads [01:38] 'ello Laney [01:46] argh launchpad running slow again.. [01:47] /. :-) [01:50] * ScottK-desktop doesn't recall ever considering Launchpad "Not slow". [01:52] hahah [01:52] ScottK: the real problem now is that launchpad go in timeout.. [01:53] Please try again [01:53] Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [01:53] Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. [01:53] Thanks for your patience. [01:53] what balls.. [01:54] ok I go to sleep and I will try to continue my work tomorrow. [01:54] good night [02:06] Who runs the rcbugs page? It seems to be not updating correctly [02:06] showing Ubuntu versions that were superceded long ago [02:08] I'm not sure, wgrant, you probably know? [02:09] Oh, I think it might be targetting Intrepid still [02:20] * Laney gets bored with triaging the list [02:27] Laney: It is pointed at intrepid still. [02:33] ScottK: Do you know who to poke? [02:33] Laney: Just did. [02:33] Excellent [02:35] * Laney heads bedward === sepheebear is now known as Sepheebear === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [07:08] what are the odds we'll see a backport of OO.o? [07:16] Slim and none unless someone shows up who is really interested in working on it and supporting it. [07:16] :( [07:17] If someone were interested to actually do the work, then sure. [07:17] * coppro checks to see if the PPA packages are working [07:19] hmm... nope [07:21] * ScottK considers how much he is going to worry about incompatible symbol changes in a library that has no packaged rdepends, but upstream didn't bump soname. === HarassmentPanda is now known as HarassmentPanda| [07:24] last time I tried the PPA, OO.org broke, we'll see if it works now === ziroday` is now known as ziroday [07:38] hmm... the PPA works [07:38] yay [09:20] I was asking about the process of getting a program which I have written considered for packaging for Ubuntu in here yesterday and some one (sorry I can't recall who) suggested filing a bug report under the tag of needs-packaging but I can't find out how to tag a bug [09:20] is there any special option I have missed or somthing? [09:24] HarassmentPanda|: You can either click on that button below the description of the bug (Update description/tags) or append /+edit to the url. [09:25] iulian: Ok - this is after I have logger the bug? [09:26] HarassmentPanda|: What is the bug #? [09:27] iulian: I didn't log it yet because I wasn't sure if It was right :-) === HarassmentPanda| is now known as HarassmentPanda [09:29] HarassmentPanda: Ah, this is the right way of requesting an application to be packaged. [09:29] iulian: ok cool, I'll log it now, thanks [09:30] HarassmentPanda: You might want to take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages [09:39] ppa does not work now? I can't upload. [09:41] lidaobing: What message do you get? [09:42] iulian, Connection failed, aborting. Check your network (111, 'Connection refused') [09:43] iulian, full information in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/106317/ [09:44] Can someone tell me if ppa.launchpad.net is down or something, i keep getting "Connection failed, aborting. Check your network (111, 'Connection refused')" from dput [09:44] lidaobing: Odd, I've no idea. Ask in #launchpad, maybe you'll get an answer there. [09:44] It seems you're not the only one. [09:45] iulian, thanks [09:49] julian: Is this right https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/318389 ? [09:49] Launchpad bug 318389 in ubuntu "OpenSebJ - vScaleNotes - needs-packaging" [Undecided,New] [09:50] iulian: sorry thought it was a j on my screen :-) [09:51] also does launchpad update me if the status changes? [09:53] ubottu: that hyperlink is wrong [09:55] some might argue talking to a bot is wrong as well :-) [09:55] perhaps [09:56] strange though the bot responded and thanked me for my attention to detail [09:56] did you ever hear that song about the bot on irc? [09:56] and that your message got escalated to the ops channel? [09:56] not really ;-) [09:57] Any way did I log the issue correctly? [09:57] Is the tagging correct? [09:58] It was called Boten Anna by Basshunter - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQUsp-jxDQ&NR=1 [09:59] Not sure of the language, if you look around you can find one with subtitles [10:00] * Nafallo is sure about the language and wouldn't mind that song not to exist. [10:01] I take it you don't like it [10:02] * Nafallo nods [10:03] is there a motu free to revu today? =p [10:05] what language is it btw? [10:05] HarassmentPanda: .se [10:10] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=bansheelyricsplugin [11:10] I get a "connection refused" when I try to connect to Launchpad's PPA: [11:10] pet@workmate:~/work$ nc ppa.launchpad.net 21 [11:10] ppa.launchpad.net [91.189.90.217] 21 (ftp) : Connection refused [11:10] that's more of a #launchpad problem :) [11:11] hehe, you are damn right :) [11:11] thanks :) [11:11] and it's already mentioned: < det> (can't upload to launchpad using dput, "connection refused") [11:12] I wonder if they're creating the signatures for PPA hehe [11:16] the server admin is drunk with his face on the keyboard [11:26] I've subscribed ubuntu-sru for a certain bug (#276603) in launchpad. According to the procedure, I have to upload my package into -proposed, but I'm not allowed to. Is this mandatory? Does anyone know the average response time for ubuntu-sru? [11:28] petski: usually, someone sponsors the package after motu-sru has ACKed it [11:28] the package is in 'main', ... so I think motu is not involved? [11:29] again, I could be asking the wrong channel :) [12:13] petski: As you say, packages in main are better discussed in #ubuntu-devel. My guess (I can't find any official doc) would be that the procedure would go something along the lines of attaching the .debdiff to the bug and subscribing ~ubuntu-main-sponsors. It's probably worth hanging around on #ubuntu-devel to see if you can get a more definitive answer [12:14] thanks maxb ! [12:15] hello. could you tell me, please, which the best way to create deb package with sources of modificated linux kernel? for example, i clone ubunut-jaunty source tree via git; it compiles successfully via debian/rules or via make-kpkg as well. But I would like to know, does exist some alternative for "make-kpkg kernel-source" via existing original debian/rules way? [12:19] by other words, what maintainer do, that user can just type "apt-get source linux-image-2.6.X-Y-" and get: 1.original tarball 2.tarball with diffs 3.dir from tarball with applied diffs? [12:24] ia: that may be better asked in #ubuntu-kernel [12:33] or #ubuntu-kernel [12:38] isn't that what I said? :) [12:53] oh shit i read #ubuntu-devel [12:53] sorry [12:53] T_T [12:54] anyway pochu, would you have time for a review? =p [13:01] hyperair: not really. what is it? [13:02] banshee lyrics plugin [13:02] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=bansheelyricsplugin [13:02] if you're not free then nevermind === cprov is now known as cprov-afk [14:56] * sukiminna says is anybody here..? [14:59] In ubuntu intrepid, gksu "window" is transparent. How did it change since hardy, and what do I need to have it in hh? [15:00] spitfire_: i think u are in the wrong channel buddy [15:00] sukiminna: what channel do you suggest? [15:01] spitfire_: #kubuntu maybe.. [15:01] sukiminna: i said "GKSU" [15:01] spitfire_:or #ubuntu [15:01] spitfire_: #ubuntu-devl might help, but maqny people are out for the weekend. [15:01] #ubuntu-devel that is. [15:01] jpds: thanks. [15:01] Stupid keyboard. [15:02] that's where I might get answer:P [15:02] jpds: and don't blame keyboard:D [15:03] spitfire_: it's a netbook, thus tiny keys. [15:03] oh, I undrstand. [15:03] I wouldn't buy one:P [15:03] ..juz wanna ask why i cant include linux/module.h.. [15:04] I have a 15" laptop;) [15:05] sukiminna: What do you mean? What are you trying to do? [15:05] im learning how to code a kernel module..im a newbie.. [15:06] sukiminna: It's #include but this isn't the right channel. For writing kernel modules I suggest you to try google. There are a lot of good documentation on how to write one. [15:06] There is also a #kernelnewbies channel on OFTC, IIRC. [15:07] I believe they deal with kernel modules there. [15:07] iulian: thanx [15:46] Hi. Who wants to win a free DVD Authoring tool? Just review DVDStyler (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler) and gives me the second advocate. Limited number of players allowed! :-) === lynxie is now known as lynxje [15:57] <\sh> evening === thekorn is now known as thekorn1741 [15:58] Hiya \sh. === thekorn1741 is now known as thekorn === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp === lynxje is now known as lynxje_ === lynxje_ is now known as lynxje [16:21] how does one add descriptions to quilt patches? [16:21] # ? [16:30] Quilt will ignore anything above where the patch stuff starts [16:31] before Index: path/to/patched/file.cpp [16:31] example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/106507/ [16:32] this is for patches in general [16:32] Very strange beast this quilt. [16:32] heh [16:32] thanks [16:32] yay now lintian is clean [16:33] Isn't ignoring leading text the behaviour of good old traditional patch(1) ? [16:34] how is an upstream source that comes already debiansed dealt with, if we need to change it? [16:34] <\sh> hail to the difference between patch and patch-management ,-) [16:34] hggdh: you tidy the tarball [16:34] maxb: I don't think relying on "patch tries to skip any leading garbage" is the same as "here's how you put in a comment". [16:34] Where's an appropriate channel for help with some deboostrap issues? [16:34] hggdh: use a get-orig-source rule to remove the debian/ folder [16:34] <\sh> hggdh: ask upstream to not play debian maintainer.. [16:34] * ScottK mostly likes dpatch. [16:34] heh [16:34] * hyperair prefers quilt [16:35] quilt ftw [16:35] hyperair: It's not actuall required to remove it. [16:35] once you get used to it, it's awesome [16:35] but this will mean changing the source tarball [16:35] hggdh: If it's OKish, then just edit it and move forward. It makes the .diff.gz awkward, but it's doable. [16:36] If you need to remove entire files from the debian dir then you have to repack it. [16:36] If not, it's up to you. [16:36] In any case ask upstream to remove it in their next release. [16:38] thanks. Second question: this package (libpst-0.6.25, right now) will need to create a new library; should the library be split in a separate package (and another one for the -dev)? [16:38] ScottK: if you don't remove it your diff.gz is going to be exceptionally large [16:39] hggdh: Generally yes. You'll want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/LibraryPackaging and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielB%C3%BCltmann/CreatingLibraryPackages that tries to summarize it. [16:40] hyperair: Not necessarily. I've dealt with these before where all I had to do was change revision/release target and so .diff.gz was essentially one debian/changelog entry. [16:40] It's really up to the packager if they want to repack (except if files have to be deleted). [16:41] in this case it is a debhelper, no patch support, no default library creation, and the debuild will create a lot of .ex under ./debian [16:41] which does not sound kosher to me... [16:41] What they are is confusing since you can't read the .diff.gz and understand the packaging (which I do do) [16:42] i do that too [16:42] dpkg-buildpackage doesn't create the .ex templates. dh_make does that. [16:43] they force it in under Makefile.am, EXTRA_DIST [16:43] Ah. [16:44] Well if the upstream build system is insane and you're going to have to redo a lot of stuff, then repacking often can give you a more understandable package. [16:44] * hggdh got hit with a small beast for the first even packaging from upstream ;-) [16:45] that was my view, but... this will involve changing upstream tarball... and I hate that [16:45] in this cases -- is bzr an option? [16:45] hggdh: bzr? [16:46] so that we could load the original tar ball there, and then just update [16:46] hggdh: in the case of my package bansheelyricsplugin, i repacked it removing all .svn files [16:46] hggdh: load the orig tarball and update? i don't get what you mean [16:47] I would like to have an original tarball available for audit [16:47] and repackaging will create a brand new original source, different from what upstream releases [16:48] (because dh_make is run upstream before release) [16:49] so: load upstream in bzr; adjust the packaging; tag it; and release [16:50] hggdh: The way you want to do this is with a get-orig-source rule in your Debian rules. It should grab the upstream tarball and repack it for you. This both documents your changes and eases future maintenance. [16:51] k, thanjs [16:51] JontheEchidna: What was the package of yours I reviewed recently with a get-orig-source? [16:51] plasmoid-kbstate [16:51] hggdh: ^^^ for an example. [16:51] Thanks [16:52] downloading it now [16:53] ah, OK. get the source straight from the repository at the required version [17:00] * ScottK looks over at soren and geser for their MOTU vote on JontheEchidna .... [17:04] hmm how should i fix a pacakge which isntalls stuff into /etc/gconf/schemas [17:04] if a package gets updated in Debain after the DebianImportFreeze, will this be merged not until the next ubuntu release?(now the one after jaunty) [17:08] tobi_: unless a merge request is made [17:09] but that needs some serious reason? [17:10] tobi_: No more serious than a developer agrees it's reasonable to do. [17:12] how is a merge request done? through a bug? I didn't find any special tag for that in the wiki(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags) [17:18] I'm sorry I disconnected. so again: how is a merge request done? through a bug? I didn't find any special tag for that in the wiki(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags) [17:20] Generally the best way to get a package merge done is to do it and attach the resulting .diff.gz to a bug. [17:21] is any motu free enough to review a package? [17:21] ScottK: Not a debdiff? [17:22] Laney: Right. tobi_: debdiff. [17:22] Not diff.gz. [17:22] * ScottK needs more coffee. [17:22] ok thanks for the info :D [17:22] Generally two debdiffs, debian-ubuntu and (previous)ubuntu-ubuntu [17:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging [17:23] Although th ubuntu-ubuntu one always seemed pointless to me. [17:27] Any sponsors here who use the ubuntu-ubuntu debdiff provided by sponsorees? [17:27] o/ [17:27] sometimes [17:27] The requirement is present in the first version of that page, so I don't know where it came from. [17:28] Another benifit of wiki reorgs. [17:30] james_w: Do you feel it's of enough value to you to have the sponsorees go to the trouble of making it every time? [17:31] well, not everyone does [17:31] I sometimes looked at both, but I'm not active on sponsoring lately... [17:31] and it's generally easier for them to make it than me [17:32] Well if people use it, I guess I won't bitch. [17:32] but most of the time I don't look at it [17:32] I'm fairly certain I never had. [17:32] I think if I really found a reason to care I'd do it myself anyway. [17:33] in a way it's what we should be reviewing, as it's the changes that are being made to Ubuntu [17:33] but generally reviewing the debian-ubuntu one is more important [17:43] could a motu review my package vazaar? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=vazaar [17:45] james_w: In theory I agree, but we don't do source code review of new upstream versions generally, so as a practical matter I think the need for it is a corner case. [17:54] I've read the wiki on how to customize the alternative cd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization [17:54] There doesn't seem to be a way to remove software though, as with livecd customization. How do I go about removing software? [18:32] ramvi, you can have a look at remastersys. It allows you to do a livecd from an existing installation [18:54] Hi, I would like to ask, how I use postinst.ex [18:57] a link would be very useful [18:57] thank you [19:00] Ubuntuxer: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-maintscripts [19:01] thanks [19:12] awesome. diffstat can read .diff.gz files [19:12] * pochu now feels stupid for doing $(zgrep "^+++ " *.diff.gz) [19:12] I updated the libsmbios package from 2.0.3 to 2.2.8. I have the new diff.gz, .dsc, and all the other stuff. How do i go about submitting this ? I'm looking on this packaging guide thing on the ubuntu site but .. still nto really sure what to do [19:13] LordDetain: report a bug in launchpad, attach the .diff.gz and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [19:13] pochu: How was the English exam? [19:14] LordDetain: actually, subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors as the package is in main [19:14] jpds: I think I did good at the Reading/Writing sections, but not so good at the Listening/Speaking ones [19:14] jpds: so I think with a bit luck I will get the mark I need :) [19:16] pochu: Well done. :) [19:16] ok im repotting a bug in launchpad, should i just put like "upgrading 2.0.3 -> 2.2.8" as the bug ? [19:21] jpds: thanks :) I hope I get that mark [19:22] jpds: if so, I may be studying in the US starting this August :) [19:26] pochu: Where? [19:27] pochu: Where abouts are you from? [19:27] ScottK: not sure yet. I'm thinking about North Carolina State University. It'll be in CS of course :) [19:28] Of course. [19:28] ScottK: it can be any of the universities on this list, as long as I get a good enough TOEFL mark: http://www.isep.org/students/Directory/members_in_usa.asp [19:28] Chris`: Spain [19:28] Ah cool OK [19:28] pochu: *cough* Choose Illinois *cough* [19:29] *cough* Choose Bangor *cough* [19:30] * pochu maps.google.com those [19:30] Bangor's a bit far from the US [19:30] pochu: Interesting. Only choose Illinois if you like cold. [19:31] nhandler: Chicago, Illinois? [19:31] ScottK: yeah :( [19:31] Laney: More than one Bangor in the world [19:31] Bangor in Wales I meant, not the one in the USA, there are two Bangors in the States or so GMaps says [19:31] pochu: I didn't see Chicago offerred on that list. But any university in Illinois ;) [19:31] ScottK: I knew what he meant [19:31] Bangor, Gwynedd [19:31] ScottK: And what are you talking about Illinois being cold? We are above 0F right now ;) [19:31] nhandler: too bad then [19:31] nhandler: We're about 0C here. [19:31] about/above [19:31] ScottK: Lucky [19:31] my sister is likely going to live near Chicago RSN [19:32] pochu: Then she will be relatively close to me and nixternal [19:32] Tell her to watch out. [19:32] :D [19:32] hah [19:32] heh [19:32] http://www.bangor.ac.uk/courses/undergrad/index.php.en?view=course&prospectustype=undergraduate&courseid=123&subjectarea=4 :D [19:32] Chicago FTW! [19:32] .oO ( poor sister... ) [19:32] :P [19:32] pochu: I promise I won't visit her for at least a few years [19:32] Chicago is great, we had more murders than any other city in the US for 2008 [19:33] can't beat that :p [19:33] lol [19:33] nixternal: We just had a murder the other day about 5 minutes from my house (the day care one) [19:33] didn't even hear about that one [19:34] nixternal: It was in the paper today iirc. Daycare worker threw a kid down on his head hard in Lincolnshire [19:34] Gotta run. BBL [19:36] pochu: I don't know much about NC State, but that area is a good area for tech stuff. [19:37] jpds: Know anything about this? (requestsync) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/106601/ [19:39] I think crimsun knows the NC State area a little bit [19:40] ScottK: that's what my brother told me too :) [19:40] pochu: why is your sister moving to chicago? [19:40] nixternal: because of my brother-in-law's work [19:41] nixternal: I'll ping crimsun when he's online then, thanks :) [19:41] ahhh...what does he do? [19:42] he works for power generators company [19:42] holy smokes, he might actually be working by my hours then as we have a very large company that does that stuff, but I cannot remember their name for the life of me [19:42] by my hours? wth! [19:42] by my house [19:43] heh [19:51] Laney: Which version of lplib are you using? Never seen that before. [19:51] jpds: I just installed it from jaunty, but on an Intrepid system [19:51] maybe it's some weird interaction? [19:53] pochu: Neat. [19:54] Laney: Looks like a problem in build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/launchpadlib/resource.py ? [19:54] right [19:56] hi everybody. Is someone interested in reviewing my packaging of a (imho) really handy LaTeX package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pgfplots === erhesrhsrtb54vyh is now known as Elbrus [20:22] jpds: Oh, I forgot that I had a manually installed version of lplib. Mea culpa! [20:22] Laney: No problem. [20:22] ...althouh I just got launchpadlib.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized [20:22] but the bug was filed. Weird. === erhesrhsrtb54vyh is now known as Elbrus [21:22] pochu: can't the key be added to -config? [21:27] hi folks, quick question on packaging a program- must the licence appear on top of every source file at line 0 exactly? Or can the license be described after all the includes & ifdefs of the source file? [21:27] SolarWar: that shouldn't be a problem [21:27] okay thanks :) === bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth [21:37] Could someone review my package please, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=partitionmanager [21:45] uhm.. what does "wired/wireless NIC" mean? (it's in the HW testing page) [21:46] Network interface card? [21:47] ah :P [21:47] thx [21:47] You're welcome [21:52] How are those keys which work by moving the finger over them called? [21:52] (those which are activated by the electricity in our fingers, or whatever) [21:52] electro-capacitative? [21:53] nice name :P [21:56] fingerprint reader? ;-) [21:56] LOL [21:57] * RainCT may not know how those thingies are called, but this does still not mean that he is stupid enough to not know how a fingerprint read looks :P [21:59] RainCT, "touch sensitive keys"? like the multimedia keys on dell inspirion laptops? [22:07] laga, fta: thanks [22:21] hey guys [22:21] howz it going [22:21] cbx33: It goes good ;) [22:22] any one know how to create a second tun device? [22:22] tun1 [22:36] I would really appreciate if a MOTU could look & comment at the libpst-0.6.25-1ppa1 on my PPA (https://launchpad.net/~hggdh2/+archive).