[00:01] <savvas> coppro: I think it is: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/openoffice.org
[00:01] <savvas> Package: openoffice.org (1:3.0.1~rc1-2ubuntu4)
[00:01] <savvas> spitfire: bug report link?
[00:01] <coppro> oh, so it is
[00:01] <spitfire> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtpfs/+bug/301645
[00:02] <spitfire> changed the topis as with libmtp;)
[00:05] <savvas> spitfire: did you try to build the new version in your PPA?
[00:06] <spitfire> savvas: I've built them both locally.
[00:06] <spitfire> they are waaaay faster than previous ones.
[00:06] <spitfire> savvas: built them using pbuilder
[00:08] <savvas> spitfire: ok here's what you do: 1) bookmark https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess :) 2) since you aren't the person who submitted it, you are allowed to change the bug status from "new" to "confirmed": https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtpfs/+bug/301645/+editstatus
[00:10] <savvas> spitfire: 3) subscribe yourself in the bug 4) provide GOOD reasons except for the fact that they've released a stable version (look in their changelog, find good changes and post them in your comment).
[00:12] <savvas> spitfire: 5) mtpfs is in universe (see here next to the version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mtpfs ), so you subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtpfs/+bug/301645/+addsubscriber
[00:12] <savvas> and that's it :P
[00:13] <spitfire> savvas: thanks for the guide;)
[00:13] <savvas> np
[01:29] <james_w> TheMuso: are you happy for me to upload the patch in bug 317496?
[01:32] <TheMuso> james_w: Go for it.
[01:32] <james_w> thanks TheMuso
[01:36] <Laney> 'ow do lads
[01:38] <james_w> 'ello Laney
[01:46] <emgent> argh launchpad running slow again..
[01:47] <james_w>  /. :-)
[01:50]  * ScottK-desktop doesn't recall ever considering Launchpad "Not slow".
[01:52] <emgent> hahah
[01:52] <emgent> ScottK: the real problem now is that launchpad go in timeout..
[01:53] <emgent> Please try again
[01:53] <emgent> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[01:53] <emgent> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[01:53] <emgent> Thanks for your patience.
[01:53] <emgent> what balls..
[01:54] <emgent> ok I go to sleep and I will try to continue my work tomorrow.
[01:54] <emgent> good night
[02:06] <Laney> Who runs the rcbugs page? It seems to be not updating correctly
[02:06] <Laney> showing Ubuntu versions that were superceded long ago
[02:08] <james_w> I'm not sure, wgrant, you probably know?
[02:09] <Laney> Oh, I think it might be targetting Intrepid still
[02:20]  * Laney gets bored with triaging the list
[02:27] <ScottK> Laney: It is pointed at intrepid still.
[02:33] <Laney> ScottK: Do you know who to poke?
[02:33] <ScottK> Laney: Just did.
[02:33] <Laney> Excellent
[02:35]  * Laney heads bedward
[07:08] <coppro> what are the odds we'll see a backport of OO.o?
[07:16] <ScottK> Slim and none unless someone shows up who is really interested in working on it and supporting it.
[07:16] <coppro> :(
[07:17] <ScottK> If someone were interested to actually do the work, then sure.
[07:17]  * coppro checks to see if the PPA packages are working
[07:19] <coppro> hmm... nope
[07:21]  * ScottK considers how much he is going to worry about incompatible symbol changes in a library that has no packaged rdepends, but upstream didn't bump soname.
[07:24] <coppro> last time I tried the PPA, OO.org broke, we'll see if it works now
[07:38] <coppro> hmm... the PPA works
[07:38] <coppro> yay
[09:20] <HarassmentPanda|> I was asking about the process of getting a program which I have written considered for packaging for Ubuntu in here yesterday and some one (sorry I can't recall who) suggested filing a bug report under the tag of needs-packaging but I can't find out how to tag a bug
[09:20] <HarassmentPanda|> is there any special option I have missed or somthing?
[09:24] <iulian> HarassmentPanda|: You can either click on that button below the description of the bug (Update description/tags) or append /+edit to the url.
[09:25] <HarassmentPanda|> iulian: Ok - this is after I have logger the bug?
[09:26] <iulian> HarassmentPanda|: What is the bug #?
[09:27] <HarassmentPanda|> iulian: I didn't log it yet because I wasn't sure if It was right :-)
[09:29] <iulian> HarassmentPanda: Ah, this is the right way of requesting an application to be packaged.
[09:29] <HarassmentPanda> iulian: ok cool, I'll log it now, thanks
[09:30] <iulian> HarassmentPanda: You might want to take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[09:39] <lidaobing> ppa does not work now? I can't upload.
[09:41] <iulian> lidaobing: What message do you get?
[09:42] <lidaobing> iulian, Connection failed, aborting. Check your network (111, 'Connection refused')
[09:43] <lidaobing> iulian, full information in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/106317/
[09:44] <ripps> Can someone tell me if ppa.launchpad.net is down or something, i keep getting "Connection failed, aborting. Check your network (111, 'Connection refused')" from dput
[09:44] <iulian> lidaobing: Odd, I've no idea.  Ask in #launchpad, maybe you'll get an answer there.
[09:44] <iulian> It seems you're not the only one.
[09:45] <lidaobing> iulian, thanks
[09:49] <HarassmentPanda> julian: Is this right https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/318389 ?
[09:50] <HarassmentPanda> iulian: sorry thought it was a j on my screen :-)
[09:51] <HarassmentPanda> also does launchpad update me if the status changes?
[09:53] <HarassmentPanda> ubottu: that hyperlink is wrong
[09:55] <Nafallo> some might argue talking to a bot is wrong as well :-)
[09:55] <HarassmentPanda> perhaps
[09:56] <HarassmentPanda> strange though the bot responded and thanked me for my attention to detail
[09:56] <HarassmentPanda> did you ever hear that song about the bot on irc?
[09:56] <Nafallo> and that your message got escalated to the ops channel?
[09:56] <Nafallo> not really ;-)
[09:57] <HarassmentPanda> Any way did I log the issue correctly?
[09:57] <HarassmentPanda> Is the tagging correct?
[09:58] <HarassmentPanda> It was called Boten Anna by Basshunter - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQUsp-jxDQ&NR=1
[09:59] <HarassmentPanda> Not sure of the language, if you look around you can find one with subtitles
[10:00]  * Nafallo is sure about the language and wouldn't mind that song not to exist.
[10:01] <HarassmentPanda> I take it you don't like it
[10:02]  * Nafallo nods
[10:03] <hyperair> is there a motu free to revu today? =p
[10:05] <HarassmentPanda> what language is it btw?
[10:05] <Nafallo> HarassmentPanda: .se
[10:10] <hyperair> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=bansheelyricsplugin
[11:10] <petski> I get a "connection refused" when I try to connect to Launchpad's PPA:
[11:10] <petski> pet@workmate:~/work$ nc ppa.launchpad.net 21
[11:10] <petski> ppa.launchpad.net [91.189.90.217] 21 (ftp) : Connection refused
[11:10] <savvas> that's more of a #launchpad problem :)
[11:11] <petski> hehe, you are damn right :)
[11:11] <petski> thanks :)
[11:11] <savvas> and it's already mentioned: < det> (can't upload to launchpad using dput, "connection refused")
[11:12] <savvas> I wonder if they're creating the signatures for PPA hehe
[11:16] <ripps> the server admin is drunk with his face on the keyboard
[11:26] <petski> I've subscribed ubuntu-sru for a certain bug (#276603) in launchpad. According to the procedure, I have to upload my package into -proposed, but I'm not allowed to. Is this mandatory? Does anyone know the average response time for ubuntu-sru?
[11:28] <laga> petski: usually, someone sponsors the package after motu-sru has ACKed it
[11:28] <petski> the package is in 'main', ... so I think motu is not involved?
[11:29] <petski> again, I could be asking the wrong channel :)
[12:13] <maxb> petski: As you say, packages in main are better discussed in #ubuntu-devel. My guess (I can't find any official doc) would be that the procedure would go something along the lines of attaching the .debdiff to the bug and subscribing ~ubuntu-main-sponsors. It's probably worth hanging around on #ubuntu-devel to see if you can get a more definitive answer
[12:14] <petski> thanks maxb !
[12:15] <ia> hello. could you tell me, please, which the best way to create deb package with sources of modificated linux kernel? for example, i clone ubunut-jaunty source tree via git; it compiles successfully via debian/rules or via make-kpkg as well. But I would like to know, does exist some alternative for "make-kpkg kernel-source" via existing original debian/rules way?
[12:19] <ia> by other words, what maintainer do, that user can just type "apt-get source linux-image-2.6.X-Y-<type>" and get: 1.original tarball 2.tarball with diffs 3.dir from tarball with applied diffs?
[12:24] <pochu> ia: that may be better asked in #ubuntu-kernel
[12:33] <hyperair> or #ubuntu-kernel
[12:38] <pochu> isn't that what I said? :)
[12:53] <hyperair> oh shit i read #ubuntu-devel
[12:53] <hyperair> sorry
[12:53] <hyperair> T_T
[12:54] <hyperair> anyway pochu, would you have time for a review? =p
[13:01] <pochu> hyperair: not really. what is it?
[13:02] <hyperair> banshee lyrics plugin
[13:02] <hyperair> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=bansheelyricsplugin
[13:02] <hyperair> if you're not free then nevermind
[14:56]  * sukiminna says is anybody here..?
[14:59] <spitfire_> In ubuntu intrepid, gksu "window" is transparent. How did it change since hardy, and what do I need to have it in hh?
[15:00] <sukiminna> spitfire_: i think u are in the wrong channel buddy
[15:00] <spitfire_> sukiminna: what channel do you suggest?
[15:01] <sukiminna> spitfire_: #kubuntu maybe..
[15:01] <spitfire_> sukiminna: i said "GKSU"
[15:01] <sukiminna> spitfire_:or  #ubuntu
[15:01] <jpds> spitfire_: #ubuntu-devl might help, but maqny people are out for the weekend.
[15:01] <jpds> #ubuntu-devel that is.
[15:01] <spitfire_> jpds: thanks.
[15:01] <jpds> Stupid keyboard.
[15:02] <spitfire_> that's where I might get answer:P
[15:02] <spitfire_> jpds: and don't blame keyboard:D
[15:03] <jpds> spitfire_: it's a netbook, thus tiny keys.
[15:03] <spitfire_> oh, I undrstand.
[15:03] <spitfire_> I wouldn't buy one:P
[15:03] <sukiminna> ..juz wanna ask why i cant include linux/module.h..
[15:04] <spitfire_> I have a 15" laptop;)
[15:05] <iulian> sukiminna: What do you mean? What are you trying to do?
[15:05] <sukiminna> im learning how to code a kernel module..im a newbie..
[15:06] <iulian> sukiminna: It's #include <linux/module.h> but this isn't the right channel.  For writing kernel modules I suggest you to try google.  There are a lot of good documentation on how to write one.
[15:06] <iulian> There is also a #kernelnewbies channel on OFTC, IIRC.
[15:07] <iulian> I believe they deal with kernel modules there.
[15:07] <sukiminna> iulian: thanx
[15:46] <fabrice_sp_> Hi. Who wants to win a free DVD Authoring tool? Just review DVDStyler (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler) and gives me the second advocate. Limited number of players allowed! :-)
[15:57] <\sh> evening
[15:58] <iulian> Hiya \sh.
[16:21] <hyperair> how does one add descriptions to quilt patches?
[16:21] <hyperair> # ?
[16:30] <JontheEchidna> Quilt will ignore anything above where the patch stuff starts
[16:31] <JontheEchidna> before Index: path/to/patched/file.cpp
[16:31] <JontheEchidna> example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/106507/
[16:32] <JontheEchidna> this is for patches in general
[16:32] <ScottK> Very strange beast this quilt.
[16:32] <hyperair> heh
[16:32] <hyperair> thanks
[16:32] <hyperair> yay now lintian is clean
[16:33] <maxb> Isn't ignoring leading text the behaviour of good old traditional patch(1) ?
[16:34] <hggdh> how is an upstream source that comes already debiansed dealt with, if we need to change it?
[16:34] <\sh> hail to the difference between patch and patch-management ,-)
[16:34] <hyperair> hggdh: you tidy the tarball
[16:34] <ScottK> maxb: I don't think relying on "patch  tries  to skip any leading garbage" is the same as "here's how you put in a comment".
[16:34] <jharr> Where's an appropriate channel for help with some deboostrap issues?
[16:34] <hyperair> hggdh: use a get-orig-source rule to remove the debian/ folder
[16:34] <\sh> hggdh: ask upstream to not play debian maintainer..
[16:34]  * ScottK mostly likes dpatch.
[16:34] <hggdh> heh
[16:34]  * hyperair prefers quilt
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> quilt ftw
[16:35] <ScottK> hyperair: It's not actuall required to remove it.
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> once you get used to it, it's awesome
[16:35] <hggdh> but this will mean changing the source tarball
[16:35] <ScottK> hggdh: If it's OKish, then just edit it and move forward.  It makes the .diff.gz awkward, but it's doable.
[16:36] <ScottK> If you need to remove entire files from the debian dir then you have to repack it.
[16:36] <ScottK> If not, it's up to you.
[16:36] <ScottK> In any case ask upstream to remove it in their next release.
[16:38] <hggdh> thanks. Second question: this package (libpst-0.6.25, right now) will need to create a new library; should the library be split in a separate package (and another one for the -dev)?
[16:38] <hyperair> ScottK: if you don't remove it your diff.gz is going to be exceptionally large
[16:39] <ScottK> hggdh: Generally yes.  You'll want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/LibraryPackaging and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielB%C3%BCltmann/CreatingLibraryPackages that tries to summarize it.
[16:40] <ScottK> hyperair: Not necessarily.  I've dealt with these before where all I had to do was change revision/release target and so .diff.gz was essentially one debian/changelog entry.
[16:40] <ScottK> It's really up to the packager if they want to repack (except if files have to be deleted).
[16:41] <hggdh> in this case it is a debhelper, no patch support, no default library creation, and the debuild will create a lot of .ex under ./debian
[16:41] <hggdh> which does not sound kosher to me...
[16:41] <ScottK> What they are is confusing since you can't read the .diff.gz and understand the packaging (which I do do)
[16:42] <hyperair> i do that too
[16:42] <ScottK> dpkg-buildpackage doesn't create the .ex templates.  dh_make does that.
[16:43] <hggdh> they force it in under Makefile.am, EXTRA_DIST
[16:43] <ScottK> Ah.
[16:44] <ScottK> Well if the upstream build system is insane and you're going to have to redo a lot of stuff, then repacking often can give you a more understandable package.
[16:44]  * hggdh got hit with a small beast for the first even packaging from upstream ;-)
[16:45] <hggdh> that was my view, but... this will involve changing upstream tarball... and I hate that
[16:45] <hggdh> in this cases -- is bzr an option?
[16:45] <hyperair> hggdh: bzr?
[16:46] <hggdh> so that we could load the original tar ball there, and then just update
[16:46] <hyperair> hggdh: in the case of my package bansheelyricsplugin, i repacked it removing all .svn files
[16:46] <hyperair> hggdh: load the orig tarball and update? i don't get what you mean
[16:47] <hggdh> I would like to have an original tarball available for audit
[16:47] <hggdh> and repackaging will create a brand new original source, different from what upstream releases
[16:48] <hggdh> (because dh_make is run upstream before release)
[16:49] <hggdh> so: load upstream in bzr; adjust the packaging; tag it; and release
[16:50] <ScottK> hggdh: The way you want to do this is with a get-orig-source rule in your Debian rules.  It should grab the upstream tarball and repack it for you.  This both documents your changes and eases future maintenance.
[16:51] <hggdh> k, thanjs
[16:51] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: What was the package of yours I reviewed recently with a get-orig-source?
[16:51] <JontheEchidna> plasmoid-kbstate
[16:51] <ScottK> hggdh: ^^^ for an example.
[16:51] <ScottK> Thanks
[16:52] <hggdh> downloading it now
[16:53] <hggdh> ah, OK. get the source straight from the repository at the required version
[17:00]  * ScottK looks over at soren and geser for their MOTU vote on JontheEchidna ....
[17:04] <hyperair> hmm how should i fix a pacakge which isntalls stuff into /etc/gconf/schemas
[17:04] <tobi_> if a package gets updated in Debain after the DebianImportFreeze, will this be merged not until the next ubuntu release?(now the one after jaunty)
[17:08] <lfaraone> tobi_: unless a merge request is made
[17:09] <tobi_> but that needs some serious reason?
[17:10] <ScottK> tobi_: No more serious than a developer agrees it's reasonable to do.
[17:12] <tobi_> how is a merge request done? through a bug? I didn't find any special tag for that in the wiki(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags)
[17:18] <tobi_> I'm sorry I disconnected. so again: how is a merge request done? through a bug? I didn't find any special tag for that in the wiki(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags)
[17:20] <ScottK> Generally the best way to get a package merge done is to do it and attach the resulting .diff.gz to a bug.
[17:21] <hyperair> is any motu free enough to review a package?
[17:21] <Laney> ScottK: Not a debdiff?
[17:22] <ScottK> Laney: Right.  tobi_: debdiff.
[17:22] <ScottK> Not diff.gz.
[17:22]  * ScottK needs more coffee.
[17:22] <tobi_> ok thanks for the info :D
[17:22] <Laney> Generally two debdiffs, debian-ubuntu and (previous)ubuntu-ubuntu
[17:23] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
[17:23] <ScottK> Although th ubuntu-ubuntu one always seemed pointless to me.
[17:27] <ScottK> Any sponsors here who use the ubuntu-ubuntu debdiff provided by sponsorees?
[17:27] <james_w> o/
[17:27] <james_w> sometimes
[17:27] <ScottK> The requirement is present in the first version of that page, so I don't know where it came from.
[17:28] <ScottK> Another benifit of wiki reorgs.
[17:30] <ScottK> james_w: Do you feel it's of enough value to you to have the sponsorees go to the trouble of making it every time?
[17:31] <james_w> well, not everyone does
[17:31] <pochu> I sometimes looked at both, but I'm not active on sponsoring lately...
[17:31] <james_w> and it's generally easier for them to make it than me
[17:32] <ScottK> Well if people use it, I guess I won't bitch.
[17:32] <james_w> but most of the time I don't look at it
[17:32] <ScottK> I'm fairly certain I never had.
[17:32] <ScottK> I think if I really found a reason to care I'd do it myself anyway.
[17:33] <james_w> in a way it's what we should be reviewing, as it's the changes that are being made to Ubuntu
[17:33] <james_w> but generally reviewing the debian-ubuntu one is more important
[17:43] <hyperair> could a motu review my package vazaar? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=vazaar
[17:45] <ScottK> james_w: In theory I agree, but we don't do source code review of new upstream versions generally, so as a practical matter I think the need for it is a corner case.
[17:54] <ramvi> I've read the wiki on how to customize the alternative cd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[17:54] <ramvi> There doesn't seem to be a way to remove software though, as with livecd customization. How do I go about removing software?
[18:32] <fabrice_sp> ramvi, you can have a look at remastersys. It allows you to do a livecd from an existing installation
[18:54] <Ubuntuxer> Hi, I would like to ask, how I use postinst.ex
[18:57] <Ubuntuxer> a link would be very useful
[18:57] <Ubuntuxer> thank you
[19:00] <jpds> Ubuntuxer: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-maintscripts
[19:01] <Ubuntuxer> thanks
[19:12] <pochu> awesome. diffstat can read .diff.gz files
[19:12]  * pochu now feels stupid for doing $(zgrep "^+++ " *.diff.gz)
[19:12] <LordDetain> I updated the libsmbios package from 2.0.3 to 2.2.8.  I have the new diff.gz, .dsc, and all the other stuff.     How do i go about submitting this ? I'm looking on this packaging guide thing on the ubuntu site but .. still nto really sure what to do
[19:13] <pochu> LordDetain: report a bug in launchpad, attach the .diff.gz and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
[19:13] <jpds> pochu: How was the English exam?
[19:14] <pochu> LordDetain: actually, subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors as the package is in main
[19:14] <pochu> jpds: I think I did good at the Reading/Writing sections, but not so good at the Listening/Speaking ones
[19:14] <pochu> jpds: so I think with a bit luck I will get the mark I need :)
[19:16] <jpds> pochu: Well done. :)
[19:16] <LordDetain> ok im repotting a bug in launchpad, should i just put like    "upgrading 2.0.3 -> 2.2.8" as the bug ?
[19:21] <pochu> jpds: thanks :) I hope I get that mark
[19:22] <pochu> jpds: if so, I may be studying in the US starting this August :)
[19:26] <ScottK> pochu: Where?
[19:27] <Chris`> pochu: Where abouts are you from?
[19:27] <pochu> ScottK: not sure yet. I'm thinking about North Carolina State University. It'll be in CS of course :)
[19:28] <ScottK> Of course.
[19:28] <pochu> ScottK: it can be any of the universities on this list, as long as I get a good enough TOEFL mark: http://www.isep.org/students/Directory/members_in_usa.asp
[19:28] <pochu> Chris`: Spain
[19:28] <Chris`> Ah cool OK
[19:28] <nhandler> pochu: *cough* Choose Illinois *cough*
[19:29] <Chris`> *cough* Choose Bangor *cough*
[19:30]  * pochu maps.google.com those
[19:30] <Laney> Bangor's a bit far from the US
[19:30] <ScottK> pochu: Interesting.  Only choose Illinois if you like cold.
[19:31] <pochu> nhandler: Chicago, Illinois?
[19:31] <pochu> ScottK: yeah :(
[19:31] <ScottK> Laney: More than one Bangor in the world
[19:31] <Chris`> Bangor in Wales I meant, not the one in the USA, there are two Bangors in the States or so GMaps says
[19:31] <nhandler> pochu: I didn't see Chicago offerred on that list. But any university in Illinois ;)
[19:31] <Laney> ScottK: I knew what he meant
[19:31] <Chris`> Bangor, Gwynedd
[19:31] <nhandler> ScottK: And what are you talking about Illinois being cold? We are above 0F right now ;)
[19:31] <pochu> nhandler: too bad then
[19:31] <ScottK> nhandler: We're about 0C here.
[19:31] <ScottK> about/above
[19:31] <nhandler> ScottK: Lucky
[19:31] <pochu> my sister is likely going to live near Chicago RSN
[19:32] <nhandler> pochu: Then she will be relatively close to me and nixternal
[19:32] <ScottK> Tell her to watch out.
[19:32] <nhandler> :D
[19:32] <nixternal> hah
[19:32] <pochu> heh
[19:32] <Chris`> http://www.bangor.ac.uk/courses/undergrad/index.php.en?view=course&prospectustype=undergraduate&courseid=123&subjectarea=4 :D
[19:32] <nixternal> Chicago FTW!
[19:32] <pochu> .oO ( poor sister... )
[19:32] <pochu> :P
[19:32] <nhandler> pochu: I promise I won't visit her for at least a few years
[19:32] <nixternal> Chicago is great, we had more murders than any other city in the US for 2008
[19:33] <nixternal> can't beat that :p
[19:33] <pochu> lol
[19:33] <nhandler> nixternal: We just had a murder the other day about 5 minutes from my house (the day care one)
[19:33] <nixternal> didn't even hear about that one
[19:34] <nhandler> nixternal: It was in the paper today iirc. Daycare worker threw a kid down on his head hard in Lincolnshire
[19:34] <nhandler> Gotta run. BBL
[19:36] <ScottK> pochu: I don't know much about NC State, but that area is a good area for tech stuff.
[19:37] <Laney> jpds: Know anything about this? (requestsync) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/106601/
[19:39] <nixternal> I think crimsun knows the NC State area a little bit
[19:40] <pochu> ScottK: that's what my brother told me too :)
[19:40] <nixternal> pochu: why is your sister moving to chicago?
[19:40] <pochu> nixternal: because of my brother-in-law's work
[19:41] <pochu> nixternal: I'll ping crimsun when he's online then, thanks :)
[19:41] <nixternal> ahhh...what does he do?
[19:42] <pochu> he works for power generators company
[19:42] <nixternal> holy smokes, he might actually be working by my hours then as we have a very large company that does that stuff, but I cannot remember their name for the life of me
[19:42] <nixternal> by my hours? wth!
[19:42] <nixternal> by my house
[19:43] <pochu> heh
[19:51] <jpds> Laney: Which version of lplib are you using? Never seen that before.
[19:51] <Laney> jpds: I just installed it from jaunty, but on an Intrepid system
[19:51] <Laney> maybe it's some weird interaction?
[19:53] <jpds> pochu: Neat.
[19:54] <jpds> Laney: Looks like a problem in build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/launchpadlib/resource.py ?
[19:54] <Laney> right
[19:56] <jreinhardt> hi everybody. Is someone interested in reviewing my packaging of a (imho) really handy LaTeX package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pgfplots
[20:22] <Laney> jpds: Oh, I forgot that I had a manually installed version of lplib. Mea culpa!
[20:22] <jpds> Laney: No problem.
[20:22] <Laney> ...althouh I just got launchpadlib.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized
[20:22] <Laney> but the bug was filed. Weird.
[21:22] <RainCT> pochu: can't the key be added to -config?
[21:27] <SolarWar> hi folks, quick question on packaging a program- must the licence appear on top of every source file at line 0 exactly? Or can the license be described after all the includes & ifdefs of the source file?
[21:27] <RainCT> SolarWar: that shouldn't be a problem
[21:27] <SolarWar> okay thanks :)
[21:37] <Chris`> Could someone review my package please, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=partitionmanager
[21:45] <RainCT> uhm.. what does "wired/wireless NIC" mean? (it's in the HW testing page)
[21:46] <Chris`> Network interface card?
[21:47] <RainCT> ah :P
[21:47] <RainCT> thx
[21:47] <Chris`> You're welcome
[21:52] <RainCT> How are those keys which work by moving the finger over them called?
[21:52] <RainCT> (those which are activated by the electricity in our fingers, or whatever)
[21:52] <laga> electro-capacitative?
[21:53] <RainCT> nice name :P
[21:56] <Nafallo> fingerprint reader? ;-)
[21:56] <RainCT> LOL
[21:57]  * RainCT may not know how those thingies are called, but this does still not mean that he is stupid enough to not know how a fingerprint read looks :P
[21:59] <fta> RainCT, "touch sensitive keys"? like the multimedia keys on dell inspirion laptops?
[22:07] <RainCT> laga, fta: thanks
[22:21] <cbx33> hey guys
[22:21] <cbx33> howz it going
[22:21] <Chris`> cbx33: It goes good ;)
[22:22] <cbx33> any one know how to create a second tun device?
[22:22] <cbx33> tun1
[22:36] <hggdh> I would really appreciate if a MOTU could look & comment at the libpst-0.6.25-1ppa1 on my PPA (https://launchpad.net/~hggdh2/+archive).