[00:02] kubotu: my soul [00:02] kubotu: chat about my soul [00:02] my soul and my servers are so heavily guilt riden at the video I can upload [00:07] hello all, seems that there is a solution for bluetooth support: see last comments in http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172267 [00:07] KDE bug 172267 in general "KDE bluetooth tray applet doesn't appear" [Crash,New] [00:10] yeah, I'm planning on updating kdebluetooth for Jaunty [00:11] which will also be easily backported to the KDE 4.2 ppa without all the red tape of an SRU [00:13] I think that is the only major bug intrepid has [00:14] aside from knetworkmanager being total crap [00:16] yes, maybe ;-) [00:17] meh, need patches for solid-bluetooth [00:18] but I believe that jaunty will be a great release: kpackage, webkitkde, kbluetooth, KDE 4.2 ... only miss a VoIP solution :-( [00:19] hopefully webkitkde [00:19] I remember that webkitkde was even being considered as early as the hard betas ;-) [00:19] *hardy [00:21] I t've tried it and is not for mass use [00:21] but with Qt 4.5 maybe [00:26] ugh, so can anybody help me out here? [00:27] I'm trying to install mysql-server-5.0 after I uninstalled 5.1 [00:27] Unpacking mysql-server-5.0 (from .../mysql-server-5.0_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... [00:27] Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0. === emma_ is now known as emma [00:54] evening [01:07] hrmm trying out quassel, seems more difficult to setup then konverstation [01:14] jjesse-dell9: yeah, for sure [01:16] trying to figure it out [01:16] one of the things i liked in konverstaion was the on screen notifications as most of the time i dont have my irc window open on top [01:16] looks like quassel can do the same [01:22] * claydoh is thining of doing a how-to to set up quassel, but yeah it's not (yet) all that intuitive === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [01:23] * claydoh kind of figured it out after blindly stabbing at things, and still doesn't understand why he has 2 chat windows, or how to turn the extra one off [01:27] i have it running, dont know if i like it or not :) [01:28] hrmm is thera quassell doc? [01:28] its useable [01:28] dont see an entry for help - manual [01:29] jjesse-dell9: not really, and their online docs are just starting out, quite bare [01:29] seems a shame to drop something like konverstation though, i enjoy it a lot better as a program [01:29] * claydoh wonders if anyone is working on the kopete irc plugin [01:29] but i understand why to drop it [01:30] a kopete plugin would be nice one utility for all messaging/chat [01:31] if only I could code ..... [01:32] me 2 [01:32] kmymoney2 will be kde3 for a while, too :( [01:39] o/ [01:40] \o [01:41] hrmm notifications for quassel not working correctly for some reason [02:24] wow i just did a 5-a-day havent done one of those in a long long time [02:47] are notifications not working for you? they are for me [02:47] meh, ^^ was for jjesse-dell9 [03:11] * ScottK waves to seele from home. [03:12] astromme: IIRC you have to have focus stealing prevention to None to get the quassel notifications. [03:22] ScottK: Don't they show up in plasma though? thats what mine do. [03:22] I'm on 4.1. 4.2 may be different. [03:22] ScottK: Oh, that's true, I'm on 4.2 with jaunty [03:24] astromme: when you press the Restart from kickoff in kde-4.2, what will happen? [03:25] I think we want something like this if we don't have it: http://blog.ratonred.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/service-manager.png [03:25] freeflying_: It brings the restart dialog up? [03:25] ScottK: We do have something similar in SystemSettings? oh, that's for non-kde stuff [03:25] So how does he handle permissions? [03:25] astromme: can it really restart? [03:26] freeflying_: Yeah, it restarts my computer iirc [03:26] freeflying_: what happens with you? [03:26] astromme: I haven't looked at the code yet. [03:26] astromme: its logout here [03:27] freeflying_: Trying on my laptop, let me see [03:27] astromme: thanks [03:28] freeflying_: It seems to be restarting for me. [03:29] astromme: then its a problem of mine, thanks for confirm [05:00] * seele is finally home [05:00] ScottK: i forgot my house keys! [05:01] ScottK: i got a book from B&N and went to a diner until Justin got back from his buddy's place (they were watching the game) [05:01] Oh my. [05:02] oh fucking )@(#$*&#@)(*$#@()$* [05:02] i lost my calendar [05:02] stupid fucking akonodi [05:03] my ears!!! [05:03] apachelogger: ^^^ [05:04] shit.. that is really really inconvenient [05:04] * seele shuffles through the past month worth of mails recreating her work calendar [05:17] * ScottK looks around and suggests a plasmoid-akonadi-backup would be a good thing if we had. [05:17] seele: As requested: http://www.kitterman.org/ScottK/2009/01/kubuntu_evangelism_for_all_age.html [05:19] Good night all. [05:23] ScottK: nice. have a good night [10:14] hi there [10:16] hi Tonio_ [10:20] Tonio_: going to upload kpackagekit? [10:58] Riddell: yep, today, in a couple of minutes [10:58] Riddell: still rereading this time, along with a polishing on the new knetworkmanager packages [10:58] new knetworkmanager? KDE 3 or 4 version? [10:59] Tonio_: how are they coming along? [10:59] Riddell: the plasmoid - we were playing the other day with it. [11:07] Riddell: kde4 version [11:08] Riddell: works like a charm since major update 3 days ago [11:08] Riddell: te point is how to package this ? [11:08] Riddell: should I name the packages knetworkmanager ? [11:08] does someone feel like backporting the latest quassel to intrepid experimental? [11:08] as we did before ? [11:08] Tonio_: plasmoid-network-manager would follow the pattern [11:09] sebas: FYI ^^ [11:09] yup, and the replaces and provides the old ones right ? [11:10] Riddell: even the openvpn plugin seems to work decently :) [11:10] Tonio_: replaces only if it overlaps files [11:11] Tonio_: Im having a few issues with it - cant get it to connect properly. do you quit the kde3 version before adding the plasmoid? did you do anything else to ge it working? [11:13] Riddell: it won't overlap [11:13] Riddell: maybe we can just have both in the repos atm... [11:13] Riddell: is that better option for you ? [11:14] yes, I'd prefer that [11:27] Riddell: you can review plasmoid-network-manager in a couple of minutes... now performing policykit and kpackagekit with the required fixes... [11:38] Riddell: libpackagekit and kpackagekit uploaded [11:38] Riddell: now processing policykit [11:39] Tonio_: you are in super form today :D [11:47] jussi01 yup :) [11:47] Riddell: policykit-ke uploaded, this time all files licences are mentionned in the copyright, the copying file is in there, lintian is happy on both source and debs... [11:49] no plasmoid-network-manager in New [11:49] Riddell: yep I didn't upload it, I want it reviewed in the first place [11:49] Riddell: may I upload and you review in NEW directly ? [11:50] Riddell: I'm just testing a build removing the linked .so files to make lintian happy on the deb file and that's okay, I'll upload then [11:50] Riddell: once everything is in the repos, I'll finish the k3B package, which is a little more complicated :) [11:51] revu is best if nobody else has seen it yet [11:51] have you got k3b to do anything? [11:51] Riddell: I've been able to burn an iso file with it... [11:51] Riddell: I need to perform a lot of tests btw [11:52] Riddell: the thing is that I can't upload on revu for some reason... [11:56] Riddell: I tried to upload on revu.... we'll see if it happens, I'll ping you for revuing then... [11:56] Riddell: you should have libpackagekit-qt, kpackagekit and policykit-kde in NEW now [12:00] adn reviewer for this please ? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-network-manager [12:53] Tonio_: plasmoid-network-manager package looks fine, but I can't get it to connect to a network [12:56] Riddell: ah.... works for me [12:57] Riddell: what kind of security do you use ? [12:57] Riddell: I use wpa2/psk [12:57] Riddell: works like a charm on my side... [12:57] Riddell: in any case we can approve this in universe and let people test to give feedback [12:58] Riddell: I'll upload regular svn snapshots as I did in the past on the kdebluetooth stuff... [12:58] Riddell: are you okay on this rationale ? [12:58] please can anyone point me to a site where i can download qt4 or qt3 tutorial in pdf format (search google [and still seraching]) [12:58] jussi01_: I don't have the kde3 version installed at all fyi [12:59] jussi01_: aren't you using wpa/psk ? [12:59] oooops * i meant searching not seraching [12:59] then maybe only wep and wpa2 do work at the moment... [13:04] Riddell: kdebluetooth seems to be fixed against kde4.2, I'm updating the package and perform tests.... if that's okay, I'll upload [13:05] Riddell: did you reboot or restart kde in the first place for networkmanager ? it happened to me that I had to restart kde for it to work (pobably due to some kded thing, I didn't look at that point) [13:06] please can anyone point me to a site where i can download qt4 or qt3 tutorial in pdf format (search google [and still searching]) [13:11] Riddell: kdebluetooth will have to wait for stable kde4.2 to be released due to changes in solid [13:11] Tonio_: but I have patch for 4.1 [13:11] ok, let me reboot [13:11] delicowa: I don't know of any Qt tutorials in PDF but try doc.trolltech.com [13:12] also techbase.kde.org [13:15] Tonio_: see kubuntu-devel mailing list for details on getting the patches [13:15] the guy who fixed kdebluetooth is offering to give patch sets for both 4.1 and 4.2 to interested parties/distros [13:20] thanks riddell [13:23] JontheEchidna: I already have the patch for 4.1 (: [13:23] * JontheEchidna wonders how you managed that [13:23] well, I was helping tpatzig to get it ready for release [13:24] aaaah [13:24] hehe [13:24] I just don't have time to package stuff [13:24] busy with school and family [13:34] morning [13:50] rebooted, still can't get n-m plasmoid to work [13:53] Tm_T: School and family? What kind of excuse is that? :-P [13:54] mok0: excuse to get my 9 weeks old babye fed [13:54] -e [13:54] Tm_T: are you the mother? [13:54] was going to say [13:58] Tm_T: Could I have the 4.1 patch and I'll see about adding it to the pending 4.1.4 SRU? [13:58] mok0: I am, for apacheloggers father atleast [13:58] ScottK: yes, mail? [13:58] mok0: Riddell our baby doesn't eat milk, allergy [13:58] ubuntu at kitterman dot com [13:58] ScottK: roger, coming your way [13:58] Tm_T: ah sorry to hear that [13:59] Tm_T: ^^ Riddell and apachelogger: I'll take care of Intrepid. [13:59] morning ScottK :) [13:59] Morning Nightrose. I got your invite. [13:59] ScottK: do you have time to backport your intrepid quassel package to the experimanetal ppa for intrepid? [14:00] my friend upgraded the quassel core... [14:00] without asking me first [14:00] Nightrose: =) [14:01] Riddell: system-config-printer-kde is really cool - is this planned to go in KCM? [14:01] Tm_T: how's the baby doing? :) [14:01] Nightrose: fine thanks, after this milk allergy was located [14:01] Nightrose: There's a version in my PPA (but it's not built again 4.2 - dunno if that'd be a problem). [14:01] Nightrose: much less pain for her [14:02] ScottK: thanks I'll check it :) [14:02] Tm_T: ah good [14:04] Sput: is it a problem if i use a quassel that wasn't build against 4.2 in 4.2? [14:04] Nightrose: we depend only on kdelibs, and I don't think we use any 4.2 features [14:04] so it should work [14:04] if KDE didn't break BIC :) [14:05] perfect [14:05] thx [14:06] Tm_T: goodness, what does she eat? [14:06] Lure: yes that's the plan [14:06] Riddell: astronaut food, milk proteines chopped down [14:07] ScottK: sent [14:08] Tm_T: Thanks. [14:08] ScottK: thank you, son (: [14:09] Son? IIRC that would require time travel. === davmor2 is now known as davmor2-away [14:11] ScottK: ah, grandson [14:11] Riddell: great, I really like the autodetection that it provides (both for local as well as network printers) [14:11] * ScottK is still on the first cup of coffee, so I'm sure what Tm_T is saying will make more sense later. [14:12] Who's doing the kdebluetooth update? [14:12] ScottK: well according to my CV, I was born in 1895 [14:13] OK. [14:15] ScottK: "Could I have the 4.1 patch" this would suggest you are? [14:15] ScottK: Tonio_ was just looking into it for 4.2 [14:15] Riddell: Since I'm doing the SRU, I need to wait for Jaunty. [14:16] Once it's in Jaunty, I'll get them into Intrepid. [14:16] ScottK: I wouldn't think that's an issue, jaunty will happen with the normal KDE updates [14:17] Right, I wasn't going to wait on the KDE changes. I was more interesting it letting kdebluetooth get uploaded to Jaunty first. [14:18] ScottK: thanks - package seems to work \o/ [14:18] now to test if notifications work [14:18] Great. [14:18] can someone highlight me please? [14:18] Nightrose: Glad it worked [14:18] nope :( [14:18] Nightrose: There is no notification if quassel is in focus. [14:18] ScottK: oh, I see [14:19] ScottK: yea - it wasn't focused :( [14:19] ScottK: didn't work with neon quassel either [14:19] Nightrose: Turn off focus stealing prevention. [14:19] ScottK: well can't happen yet 13:11 < Tonio_> Riddell: kdebluetooth will have to wait for stable kde4.2 to be released due to changes in solid [14:19] ok will try [14:19] ok another try please? [14:20] Riddell: Catch 22. We should just upload kdebluetooth now. It won't get any more broken [14:20] Nightrose: Hi [14:20] still nothing :( [14:20] Hmmm. [14:20] jussi01_ was getting notifications on 4.2 the other day. [14:27] Tonio_: ^^ [14:37] yay! [14:37] notifications work! [14:37] * Nightrose bounces [14:37] ScottK: a reboot was needed [14:38] don't ask me why [14:38] Nightrose: probably a dbus restart, as I suspected a few hours ago :) [14:38] jep [14:39] dbus is a strange beast... still haven't wrapped my mind around it fully [14:40] Sput: There was a message sent to ubuntu-devel (or maybe discuss today) about dbus integration in Ubuntu. I'd appreciate it if you'd have a look and make sure you're doing stuff 'right'. [14:40] ScottK: what is the preferred location for config files to be stored? ~/.myapp or ~/.config/myapp.org/myapp/? [14:40] * ScottK looks at Riddell to answer ^^ [14:40] the latter is XDG, but we tend to receive a lot of user questions about that [14:40] Sput: ~/.config/myapp.org/myapp/ is nicer [14:41] KDE apps in ~/.kde of course [14:41] well yeah [14:41] * ScottK has to run out and retrieve a child from a sleepover. [14:41] I still wonder if quassel with KDE integration should store everything in .kde... would cause trouble for people switching the Qt and the KDE version... humm [14:42] *between the [14:47] Sput: I think the only disadvantage to using ~/.config/foo would be kiosk config lockdown wouldn't work [14:48] Riddell: yeah, we don't use that anyway... and it would save trouble with people switching between versions, and avoid inconsistencies, so I probably go that route [14:49] but XDG is preferred nowadays? all apps I've seen using that so far have been Qt apps (since QSettings default to that location), and users don't tend to know about that, so I wasn't sure [14:50] XDG is preferred if there's no reason not to, but no point changing all the apps which use something else [14:50] _Sime: poke [14:50] _Sime: you're on the wiki as needing a room for FOSDEM, did you book something already? [14:58] Tonio_: libpackagekit-qt needs quick fix and re-upload [15:16] apachelogger, Riddell, or ScottK, ping? [15:25] NCommander: hola [15:25] Riddell, I'm committing a fix for kdebase-workspace now. [15:25] NCommander: and you want me to upload? [15:26] Riddell, after it finishes building in a PPA [15:26] Its the same patches I used in .85; they got left out of the merge [15:26] erk [15:27] yeah, i already built on ARM, just need to make sure its happy on intel arches :-) [15:33] ScottK what about kdeblutooth ? [15:33] ScottK I've been attempting to build, but some classes are missing in Solid... [15:37] ok, I have the solid-bluetooth diffs for 4.1 and 4.2 [15:38] but the email was rejected from the list [15:38] JontheEchidna++ [15:38] what for? [15:38] the guy who sent it wasn't allowed to post so it was autorejected [15:39] I'll forward them to the list [15:39] what week is a good time for the next kubuntu meeting? [15:39] there are probably some things to talk about before feature freeze.. things on my list include kpackagekit and verifying that we are including quassel [15:40] I'm at the sprint week after next [15:40] ok.. so before or after the sprint? [15:40] after the spring is the week before feature freeze, correct? [15:41] yes [15:41] lets try for next week [15:41] week of the 25th? [15:42] yes [15:42] ok [15:42] * seele sets up a doodle [15:42] but not the 25th, that's Burns Nicht [15:43] Riddell: could you approve my email to the list? It's in moderation queue due to the attachment size [15:44] done [15:45] thanks [15:46] So did anybody want to patch it or am I free to volunteer to fix it for jaunty? [15:46] fight it out with ScottK and Tonio_ [15:47] Tonio_: ^^ [15:47] that's some big patches [15:48] Riddell: /tmp/buildd/kdebluetooth-0.2+svn913446/src/agent/agent.cpp:75: error: 'class Solid::Control::BluetoothInterface' has no member named 'findBluetoothRemoteDeviceUBI' [15:48] here is the kind of issues I'm getting in kdebluetooth :) [15:48] Tonio_: why not 0.3 ? [15:48] Tonio_: mm hmm, well JontheEchidna just posted patches [15:48] Tm_T: naming isn't the debate :) [15:48] Tonio_: ah, roger [15:48] Riddell: well we can patch the current one for it to work [15:48] and JontheEchidna's patches do include findBluetoothRemoteDeviceUBI [15:49] Tonio_: patches for solid-bluetooth required for kdebluetooth 0.3 are in the mailing list [15:49] or wait for the code to be fully fixed upstream for 4.2, which will happen, and update then [15:49] I don't see the point in patching for something to work *temporary* during a dev cycle... [15:49] my 2 cents :) [15:49] I don't see the point in waiting [15:49] Tonio_: hmm, 4.2 is fine, in svn that is [15:49] Riddell: agreed [15:50] it'd be good testing for an SRU anyway [15:50] Tm_T: fine ? does the build work for you ? [15:50] Tonio_: does [15:50] Tm_T: HU ???????? [15:50] Tonio_: and does in trunk too [15:50] * Tm_T is on trunk atm [15:50] Tm_T: can't happen... I'm up to date, fresh svn and it won't work for me... [15:51] Tonio_: weirdoh, ask from tpatzig did he backport it to 4.2 [15:51] Tm_T: that's fresh svn building... [15:51] Tonio_: and/or if it does require patch, maybe I did something I don't remember [15:51] is the trunk 4.3 already ? [15:51] maybe that's my problem :) [15:51] yeah, trunk is 4.3 :-) [15:51] trunk definately is 4.3 [15:52] ouch........ [15:52] I missed that point :) [15:52] my bad, sorry guys === seele changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Vote on next Kubuntu Meeting: http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=ebvd43gp8iw5axya | Alpha-3 Released | Specs! http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJaunty/Specs [15:54] Tm_T: where would it be then ? [15:54] there's no playground or extragear in 4.2 :) [15:55] was backported on kde-apps..... shame on me... [15:55] * Tonio_ hides [15:55] I really have problems multitasking my life nowadays..... [15:57] Riddell: libpackagekit soname fixed and uploaded === davmor2-away is now known as davmor2 [15:58] ScottK, Tm_T, any package ready out there for kdebluetooth or should I package 0.3 ? [15:58] ...you'll need to patch kdebase-workspace first... [15:58] There is a kdebluetooth package in existence [15:59] it's at 0.2 current [15:59] *currently [15:59] Tonio_: I haven't made any packages [15:59] Tonio_: nor have possibility, sowwy [16:02] Riddell: I can see that. [16:02] Riddell: you prefer to patch kdebase-workspace, and then drop the patch when stable is out, instead of just waiting ? [16:02] Tonio_: yes, that way we don't have to wait, and we can get the SRU in [16:04] okay [16:05] let's patch this then ;) [16:06] Tonio_: remember to use bzr [16:06] Riddell: yep [16:10] Riddell: my 2 cents, but releasing a SRU with an unreleased software.... looks strange to me... [16:12] it can't become more broken [16:13] on the other side, that's true, but well...pushing hudge svn diff patches in jaunty for a SRU of an unreleased software for intrepid.... [16:13] Riddell: looks like weird process to me ;) [16:13] anyway I'm doing this [16:13] if it works, seems like that sensible thing to do [16:14] haha [16:14] Riddell: good point :) that's why I don't like doing SRUs :) [16:15] Riddell: I like to have to wait for something to be released instead of having the user's giving me pressure :) [16:15] ScottK I hope to have jaunty packages for you toonight if that works... [16:15] Tonio_: are you going to FOSDEM? [16:15] Riddell: probably [16:16] Tonio_: got any accommodation in mind? [16:16] Riddell: that's unsure atm, but I'm on the list of people meant to be there [16:16] Riddell: well if I'm going there, my company's paying for everything.... I don't know for the hotel and so on... [16:17] mm [16:17] Riddell: but if you're interested in the hotel name we're going, I can give you the information as soon as I have it eventually [16:17] I need to find someone to share a room with today to get cheapish accommodation [16:20] Riddell: hum, it depends if we have individual rooms or roomies.... I can't tell you atm... [16:21] O_o; [16:21] WTF [16:21] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21426659/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.kdebase-workspace_4%3A4.1.96-0ubuntu5~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [16:21] anyone got any ideas? [16:24] JontheEchidna, ping [16:25] pong [16:25] JontheEchidna, care unbreaking kdebase-workspace with your RSS change :-) [16:26] bzr is inconsistent with what's in the archive [16:26] I noticed [16:26] That's how my patches got left out [16:26] Riddell, ScottK: the svn diff for kdebase-workspace is 2MB... [16:27] 4:4.1.96-0ubuntu4 hasn't been uploaded [16:27] Riddell: hum looking at the patch then [16:27] doh, forgot to copy over control from where I made the changes [16:27] NCommander: just add a build-dep on kdepimlibs5-dev [16:28] JontheEchidna, I was testing that now :-) [16:30] Tonio_: It'll probably be about 4 hours before I can work on Intrepid bluetooth, so 'tonight' in your TZ works great for me. [16:31] ScottK I need to wait for the ubuntu4 package to yet appear in launchpad anyway before testing on my own... [16:32] OK. Well about an hour ago soyuz' publisher was crashing. Dunno if it's fixed yet. [16:34] we'll see ;) [16:37] KDE 4 + NVIDIA == Karbage! [16:37] * nixternal wishes these workstations had Intel video instead of NVIDIA Quadros [16:40] Tonio_: The diff that Tm_T sent me for 4.1 was only 157K. [16:40] (: [16:44] meh, I can have effects on nvidia, but not on my intel :p [16:44] current intel drivers suck on GM45, and older ones are too slow [16:44] whereas nvidia 180.xx actually has decent performance in KDE4 [16:44] jpds: you anything to do with Age Concern Reading [16:44] ? [16:44] Sput: it has just fine performance here [16:44] Riddell: /msg [16:53] ScottK here is my problem with the kdebluetooth... [16:54] ScottK I looked at the diff between ouy current kdebase-workspace and the current svn snap from 4.2 branch... [16:54] ScottK there's not any difference in anything related to solid (./solid ./libs/solid) [16:55] Tonio_: Did you look at the patches sent to kubuntu-devel? [16:55] ScottK nope, have a URL please ? [16:55] ScottK is the diff from trunk ? [16:55] Looking [16:56] ScottK ho on the ML... looking [16:56] yeah, patches are from the trunk... [16:56] ScottK wouldn't it be better asking to tpatzig if he plans to backport to 4.2 ? [16:57] ScottK instead of patching from 4.3 when 4.2 isn't even released ? :) [16:57] Tonio_: I'd say it's better to get it working or find out it doesn't sooner rather than later. [16:57] ScottKyup [16:58] Note that the 4.1 patch is also described as against trunk, so I'm not sure what he means by trunk in any case. [16:58] ScottK between the svns, the kubuntu-devel, the ML and so on, I have to document myself a bit to look at all this :) [16:58] Understand. [16:59] ScottK, hum okay.... so 4.2 isn't ready to work with it's codebase... and he wrote the patches... [16:59] Neat: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/kdebase [16:59] Riddell: It occurs to me that because 4.1.4 is in proposed, fixing bluetooth on Intrepid will be tied to getting 4.1.4 accepted into -updates. So I think we'll have plenty of testers. [17:00] Riddell: Did you file SRU bugs for 4.1.4 yet? [17:00] ScottK what patches do you need in your case ? 4.2 or 4.2 ? [17:00] * Tonio_ doesn't work on SRUs... [17:00] I need 4.1. [17:00] Which I have. [17:00] have the kdebase-workspace patch ? [17:00] Yes [17:01] Tonio_: All I need from you is kdebluetooth updated in Jaunty so I can push it to Intrepid. [17:01]