[00:04] <billisnice> where are the instructions on how to install ext4 on an installed 9.04 alpha 3?
[00:06] <RAOF> billisnice, Skiessi: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[00:07] <billisnice> when i click on the link it is broken
[00:07] <Skiessi> it's not for me
[00:08] <linuxman410> link works fine for me too
[00:09] <billisnice> for some reason i click on it and it does not for me
[00:11] <linuxman410> copy and paste it billisnice
[00:11] <billisnice> that worked
[00:12] <billisnice> Converting an ext3 filesystem to ext4
[00:29] <Melik> can gParted create ext4 partitions?
[00:30] <RAOF> No, I don't think so.
[00:30] <x1250> I read that no somewhere.
[01:27] <Naddiseo> Is it possible to have a display stretch across three monitors and two (different) video cards? I've been trying most of the day and can't get a third monitor.
[01:28] <shadowhywind> hay all I am having problems login in, when i log in i get a kdm error, looking at the logs i believe it is [config/dbus] couldn't take over org.x.config: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Connection ":1.15" is not allowed to own the service "org.x.config.display0" due to security policies in the configuration file)
[01:29] <DanaG> Naddiseo: what sort of video cards?
[01:29] <DanaG> Note that fglrx and nvidia are each incompatible with anything else.
[01:29] <Naddiseo> Radeon HD4850 (which I can get working), and a Nvidia GT7300
[01:29] <Naddiseo> Yeah, using free drivers
[01:29] <DanaG> For both?
[01:29] <Naddiseo> radeon and nv
[01:29] <DanaG> ah, then that's not the issue.
[01:30] <DanaG> Hmm, try xrandr --verbose    (in console); look for anything interesting.
[01:30] <RAOF> Naddiseo: No; you can't currently do that.
[01:30] <Naddiseo> OK, that answers that.
[01:30] <Naddiseo> What if I used onboard video instead of the nvidia?
[01:30] <DanaG> Hmm.  screen-resolution-extra can't help?
[01:30] <Naddiseo> The onboard is some kind of ati
[01:31] <RAOF> XRandR 1.2 doesn't support multi-card multi-head.
[01:31] <RAOF> Hm.  It _might_ be possible using the fglrx drivers, assuming that they support your onboard ati thingy.
[01:31] <Naddiseo> Ah k.
[01:31] <DanaG> You might be able to roll back to Intrepid xserver-xorg-core and libdri2, and then use fglrx.
[01:31] <DanaG> I'm using fglrx 8.543; anything newer gives a panic.
[01:31] <RAOF> Also, last I checked, the nv driver didn't actually handle dual head at all :)
[01:31] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[01:32] <Naddiseo> The nv just needed to support 1 monitor
[01:32] <Naddiseo> the ati had the duel
[01:32] <Naddiseo> I was trying to have multiple Screen sections in my xorg.conf, one for each card.
[01:33] <RAOF> That _might_ work, possibly.
[01:33] <Naddiseo> it detects them, but doesn't use the nv one
[01:33] <RAOF> More than simple one-card dual-head sucks quite a lot in current X, methinks.
[01:34] <Naddiseo> This is what I was trying: http://pastebin.ca/1312150
[01:37] <RAOF> I'm unlikely to be any help.  I've only ever played with one-card dual head on nvidia (which, incidentally, is a large pool of icecream filled with fluffy kittens lapping at the edges on nouveau)
[01:38] <Naddiseo> Yeah, I was nvidia up until two weeks ago, got annoyed at the drivers :P
[01:44] <RAOF> nouveau != nvidia.
[01:44] <RAOF> Even better, I believe it'll play nicely with your free ati drivers.
[01:44] <Naddiseo> Hm, yeah, I could try that
[01:44] <Naddiseo> Do I still have to use your PPA?
[01:44] <RAOF> (For example, nouveau's 2d performance for me is much, much better than nvidia's)
[01:45] <RAOF> No; xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is in Universe, and nouveau-kernel-source is either there too, or is still sitting in NEW.
[01:46] <RAOF> Oh, yeah.  There it is http://tinyurl.com/99pnas
[01:48] <Naddiseo> Still have to use module-assistant I see.
[01:49] <RAOF> No; just install the nouveau-kernel-source package; it's DKMS'd to the nines.
[01:50] <Naddiseo> Hm, I think my mirror is out of date
[01:51] <RAOF> It's not in the mirror yet; it's sitting in the NEW queue.
[01:52] <RAOF> (That's what the link was).
[01:52] <Naddiseo> ah
[01:52] <RAOF> You'd want to download that source package and build it.
[01:52] <RAOF> It doesn't have any silly dependencies; basically all it does is copy stuff to /usr/src/nouveau and run dkms.
[01:56] <l3iggs> can anyone get the "ati" driver working on their system?
[01:57] <l3iggs> the release notes say it should work, but i've had no luck
[01:57] <l3iggs> is there some fancy xorg.config line i'm missing?
[01:57] <DanaG> Last time I tried nouveau, it didn't work nicely.
[01:58] <DanaG> IT massively devoured my CPU, just drawing the desktop.
[01:59] <DanaG> My fglrx bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[02:01] <shadowhywind> Ok, so now I have KDM issues and no sound issues, can anyone help?
[02:04] <l3iggs> does anyone in this room have the "ati" driver working on their alpha 3 system?
[02:06] <Naddiseo> Can't say I do.. I'm using the radeon driver though.
[02:07]  * RAOF notes that the "ati" driver _is_ the "radeon" driver.
[02:07] <x1250> l3iggs, working here
[02:07] <Naddiseo> It's just an alias?
[02:08] <Naddiseo> and nouveau installed.
[02:08] <RAOF> Naddiseo: Indeed.  "ati" is "radeon" on all but the oldest ATi cards.
[02:08] <x1250> l3iggs, whats your problem? did you look Xorg.0.log ?
[02:09] <RAOF> DanaG: Yeah, but Naddiseo has a nv4x chip, and that will _fly_ with nouveau.
[02:09] <DanaG> Ah.  Mine was an NV17.
[02:09] <Naddiseo> ok, let's see if this nouveau/radeon thing will work
[02:09] <Naddiseo> brb
[02:09] <l3iggs> x1250 yeah, i looked at the log file
[02:09] <l3iggs> you can look at it here: http://pastebin.com/m61642d4
[02:10] <l3iggs> i don't know much, but the only thing that really jumps out at me is this line:
[02:10] <l3iggs> [config/dbus] couldn't take over org.x.config: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Connection ":1.73" is not allowed to own the service "org.x.config.display0" due to security policies in the configuration file)
[02:11] <RAOF> Ooooh, cool.  We've turned on xorg-config-as-dbus-service, I see.
[02:13] <x1250> l3iggs, don't know about that line, first time I see something like that. Are you having any noticeable problems?
[02:14] <x1250> l3iggs, here's my xorg.conf, as you asked: http://paste.ubuntu.com/106746/
[02:15] <l3iggs> yes, i am having problems, when the login screen is being drawn the cpu goes through the roof, the entire screen is corrupted, i can't log in
[02:15] <linuxman410> has anyone here used dropbox with ubuntu
[02:15] <l3iggs> linuxman410, i do
[02:16] <linuxman410> does it work good with it
[02:17] <l3iggs> works perfectly
[02:17] <x1250> l3iggs, what does LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo gives you?
[02:17] <linuxman410> thanks i was getting ready to sign up now
[02:17] <l3iggs> don't know yet, where does that show up? in the xorg log file?
[02:19] <Naddiseo> hm, X dies with Xinerama
[02:19] <Naddiseo> Least it didn't lock up like with nv.
[02:20] <x1250> l3iggs, open up a terminal
[02:21] <l3iggs> x1250, one sec, i don't think your xorg.conf file works on my system
[02:22] <l3iggs> no, it doesn't work
[02:22] <l3iggs> same issue
[02:22] <raof> Naddiseo: Nothing's going to support Xinerama :(.
[02:22] <Naddiseo> Yeah, didn't think so.
[02:22] <x1250> l3iggs, open up a terminal and enter: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[02:22] <x1250> paste that on pastebin
[02:22] <l3iggs> ok
[02:23] <Naddiseo> I disabled it. but I can't find much in the Xorg.0.log that mentions nouveau
[02:23] <raof> Everyone broke Xinerama to get XRandR 1.2 working, and now XRandR 1.3/1.4 is filling in the things that Xinerama used to do.
[02:23] <shadowhywind> what are the default groups that a user should have ?
[02:23] <Naddiseo> hm, it loads nouveau... then doesn't nothing with it
[02:24] <l3iggs> i can only ssh to the box (can't login locally), when i issue that command i get: "Error: unable to open display"
[02:24] <raof> Naddiseo: Oooooh.  I think I remember this.
[02:24] <raof> Naddiseo: I think what you need is called "drm multi-master support".  IE: both your ATI and nVidia cards need to be able to mess with drm, but currently only one can.
[02:25] <Naddiseo> I see, so it's conflicting ?
[02:25] <x1250> shadowhywind, no groups other than the user group by default, as in user:user
[02:25] <Naddiseo> maybe there's something I'm missing in the log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/106749/
[02:31] <x1250> Naddiseo, what does LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo gives?
[02:31] <x1250> you don't have direct rendering, you should fix that.
[02:32] <Naddiseo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/106752/
[02:32] <l3iggs> x1250, i switch back to vesa driver (only way i can log in locally), run LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo and i get http://pastebin.com/m7b55d80a
[02:33] <raof> Naddiseo: Hm.  It looks like X doesn't think nouveau should be driving any screens.  That said, I don't think what you want is currently possible.
[02:33] <raof> x1250: His RV770 isn't going to get 3d acceleration from any driver currently in the archives. :)
[02:34] <Naddiseo> From what I've read today, it might be possible with xrandr 1.3 ?
[02:34] <x1250> raof, didn't know that was his video card :) thanks
[02:34] <raof> Naddiseo: I _think_ that xrandr 1.3 will support what you want (possibly requiring changes in drm, but I'm not sure now).
[02:36] <Naddiseo> Hm, ok. I don't mind waiting; I don't desperately need a third monitor.
[02:36] <x1250> l3iggs, whats your video card?
[02:37] <l3iggs> SAPPHIRE X1950 GT
[02:41] <x1250> l3iggs, things to check: from an ati driver Xorg session, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo. Also check that you have ubuntu-desktop and xserver-xorg-video-all installed. Also make sure you're running the latest kernel.
[02:43] <x1250> I don't think you're missing xserver-xorg-video-all though, doesn't show any related error on the log.
[02:43] <l3iggs> i can't run an ati driver xorg session, that's my whole problem. i can't get past the login screen with "ati" or "radeon"
[02:43] <l3iggs> i'll check the other stuff
[02:50] <l3iggs> is 2.6.28-4 the right kernel?
[02:51] <x1250> l3iggs, yep
[02:51] <l3iggs> well everything checks out
[02:52] <l3iggs> the only thing that stands out here is that dbus permissions error
[02:53] <l3iggs> i bet you don't get that in your xorg log file
[02:54] <x1250> l3iggs, i'll check
[02:55] <x1250> l3iggs, i do have it =)
[02:56] <x1250> l3iggs, try #radeon
[02:56] <x1250> maybe they can help you more
[03:07] <l3iggs> ok thanks
[03:21] <Jaffarkelshac> !wine
[03:31] <shadowhywind> hay all very odd problem, If i say turn on my computer and let kdm start, i can log in and all i get a single terminal screen. However if i switch to a console view (altF2), I have to killall kdm and when i do startx i get kde correctly, any ideas?
[04:04] <Volkodav> anybody has problems with samba shares ? I have it configured same as in hardy - but it won't work in jaunty -
[04:05] <Volkodav> maybe apparmour or something else ?
[04:05] <raof> I just set up a shared directory with a macbook; that worked fine from installing samba to restarting the session to assigning permissions.
[04:15] <Volkodav> in ibex the shares are visible but not accessible -in jaunty not even visible
[04:15] <Volkodav>  /etc/init.d/samba restart does not work neither
[04:15] <Volkodav> I will try samba4
[04:16] <Volkodav> it is alpha but it might work
[04:16] <naught101> anyone else finding that open office is not opening at all?
[04:16] <naught101> I've tried it from the command line, and I get no output what so ever
[04:21] <l3iggs> open office works for me
[04:22] <naught101> I tried running it in gdb, it says: "/usr/bin/oocalc": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[04:31] <billisnice> on my amd system, this ver is more stable
[04:31] <billisnice> alpha 3
[04:35] <naught101> hrmm.. downloads shaped... I don't think I'll be able to upgrade for a week
[04:36] <naught101> I mean, downgrade...
[04:44]  * Volkodav fixed samba
[05:58] <ojwb> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha3 under "Known Issues" says "* While the user-space component of the EXPERIMENTAL nouveau X driver is available in Alpha 2 universe, the kernel modules this driver requires to work are not yet available. The kernel modules should be uploaded soon after Alpha 2." which looks like it's just been cut-and-pasted from the alpha2 page
[06:13]  * bluesmoke thought 2.6.28 was released already
[06:28] <ojwb> bluesmoke: was that in response to me?
[06:28] <ojwb> alpha3 has 2.6.28
[06:29] <ojwb> does that mean the item I quoted is no longer relevant?
[06:29]  * ojwb guesses it either should be removed, or updated to say "alpha3" not "alpha2", but I don't know which
[06:32] <bluesmoke> I dunno
[06:32] <bluesmoke> ojwb: That page says we're using a 2.6.28 rc though
[06:42] <ojwb> bluesmoke: that seems to be wrong - I don't have alpha3 here, but a jaunty kernel I installed last week is 2.6.28-4.10
[06:42] <ojwb> not 2.6.28-3.4
[06:42] <ojwb> that's what alpha2 had - more copy-and-paste I guess
[07:08] <Volkodav> anybody has this bug with skype ? workaround 1 worked for me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/273693
[07:09] <Volkodav> yeah - it was a bitch
[07:09] <Volkodav> now it works ok
[07:38] <lucent> I just completed an Alpha3 x86 alternate installer, it's 2.6.28-4-generic
[07:39] <DanaG> Argh, since I can't ctrl-alt-backspace Xorg, I instead had to SAK it.
[07:43] <lucent> heh
[07:43] <lucent> DanaG: I disapprove of that change personally, but hey it's making the most sense for the most users, so yeah
[07:43] <lucent> it's not like we can't go in and re-enable it
[07:43]  * ojwb has actually managed to accidentally hit that key combo
[07:44] <lucent> though I'd rather there be a GUI option to re-enable it
[07:44] <ojwb> but only once in many years
[07:44] <DanaG> I've never hit it by missing my aim on a key; I've instead accidentally hit it by _thinking_ the wrong key.
[07:44] <DanaG> Wanted ctrl-alt-backslash.
[07:45] <lucent> ojwb: some games map ctrl+backspace, and people hit alt by mistake too
[07:45] <lucent> I understand that
[07:45] <DanaG> I've never used ctrl-backspace for games.
[07:45] <DanaG> And Alt is TWO keys away.
[07:46] <lucent> I opin that it would be a smoother transition if the GUI option to enable serverkill was already present before changing the default behavior
[07:46] <lucent> I'd run to re-enable it. I'm too lazy if I have to go and edit files
[07:46] <lucent> anyways ext4 is buggy, I mean it bit me in the ass and I lost some data
[07:46] <DanaG> Or do what SuSE does:
[07:47] <lucent> going to wait until 2.6.30ish before making a switch to a new fs again
[07:47] <DanaG> NOt just ctrl-alt-backspace.... you have to hit it twice for it to work.
[07:47] <lucent> ha
[07:47] <lucent> I'd like there to be some kind of sysrq hook
[07:47] <lucent> but I don't understand the underlying problem well enough to actually request this
[07:48] <lucent> encrypted home dir works well enough from alternate installer btw
[07:48] <lucent> I'm using this now, it's speedier than whole-block encryption thankfully
[08:07] <dholbach> hiya
[09:35] <ScriptRipper> i got ubuntu 9.04 on my beagleboard (ARM arch) running.
[09:36] <ScriptRipper> i got keyboard, mouse and a network adapter connected via USB
[09:36] <ScriptRipper> i could even start up gdm
[09:37] <ScriptRipper> how do i get networking via USB ethernet adapter configured now?
[09:38] <lucent> yay!
[09:38] <lucent> ScriptRipper: I want to hear more about your experience with beagleboard
[09:38] <lucent> what part of the world are you located in?  how much did it cost you to get all needed materials to develop and use the beagleboard?
[09:38] <ScriptRipper> i used debootstrap and QEMU to set this up.
[09:39] <ScriptRipper> i am in munich
[09:40] <ScriptRipper> it cost me ca. 30-40 Euro in addtion to get it working
[09:40] <lucent> thanks for that information
[09:40] <ScriptRipper> I had a USB hub already...
[09:40] <lucent> ScriptRipper: if you can see Network Manager icon, right click, and either Preferences or Settings
[09:40] <ScriptRipper> self powered
[09:41] <ScriptRipper> sorry, i am command line.
[09:41] <lucent> oh okay
[09:41] <lucent> no Network Manager desired?
[09:41] <ScriptRipper> gnome display manager i started to see if X11/frame buffer and keyboard / mouse works
[09:42] <ScriptRipper> now i got the problem that 128 MB RAM is too small to run a full desktop like gnome or kde.
[09:42] <lucent> you can do this from commandline, but then it conflicts with Network Manager
[09:42] <lucent> so, if you don't need Network Manager it's okay to do it the other way using /etc/network/interfaces configuration file
[09:43] <lucent> the manual page for interfaces(8) has more information about the file format
[09:43] <lucent> use ifup (name)   and   ifdown (name)  to invoke
[09:44] <lucent> it is the same way Debian configures networking normally
[09:44] <lucent> ScriptRipper: if you only want a one-shot configuration, use the standard commands to configure your interface
[09:45] <lucent> ifconfig eth1 up
[09:45] <lucent> ifconfig eth1 XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask YYY.YYY.YYY.YYY
[09:45] <ScriptRipper> but its usb connected
[09:45] <lucent> route add default gw ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ.ZZZ
[09:45] <lucent> like that
[09:45] <lucent> ScriptRipper: "ifconfig -a" will show you all connected interfaces
[09:46] <lucent> maybe it will be named usb0?   maybe it will just be another ethN  like eth1 or eth2
[10:45] <ScriptRipper> how far have you been wrt to a "ready to run" release of jaunty 9.04 ? how "alpha" is it on arm? thats more general questions, to get a feeling about what i can expect
[10:51] <lucent> it's developed mostly for x86 I thought
[10:51] <lucent> that's what I run on
[11:10] <ScriptRipper> what i have now seen is that the udev rules are missing. this can be root of that my network adapter gets not detected
[11:10] <ScriptRipper> are these completely missing for jaunty on arm?
[12:09] <naught101> Open office isn't working for me (no starting), and isn't giving me any indication of why not, even when run from the console.
[12:12] <naught101> I don't know whether I should report a bug or not, since I have no useful information...
[12:16] <ojwb> naught101: perhaps try running it under strace?
[12:51] <xyz> whats new in Jaunty?
[12:53] <fosco__> xyz http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha3
[12:57] <xyz> fosco_, sounds way cool
[13:02] <xyz> looks cool also
[13:02] <xyz> have you tried yet?
[13:05] <fosco__> yes, i'm on it
[13:05] <fosco__> Description: Ubuntu jaunty (development branch)
[13:25] <zniavre> hello
[13:40] <bullgard4> Does GNOME dodge the term 'file type association' and uses another term instead?
[13:44] <fosco__> mime types?
[13:44] <x1250> naught101, try deleting (or moving) ~/.openoffice
[13:44] <naught101> x1250: did that, no joy
[13:45] <x1250> naught101, what happens if you run openoffice in a terminal?
[13:45] <x1250> is there any output?
[13:45] <naught101> x1250: no, absolutely none, which is why I haven't submitted a bug yet
[13:46] <naught101> not for oocalc or any other of the oo apps
[13:47] <x1250> naught101, what does aptitude search ~iopenoffice -F "%p" gives you? (pastebin it)
[13:48] <naught101> x1250: http://pastebin.ca/1312503
[13:50] <naught101> whoa! x1250 I just had the idea to run "sudo oocalc", to see if ti was my user having issues, and it is.
[13:50] <naught101> ie. it runs
[13:51] <naught101> only commandline thing is "illegal flag specified to db_create"
[13:52] <x1250> uhm, odd, it sounds like a permission problem, but no idea where it could be
[13:56] <naught101> yeah, I would expect it to give me a permissions error then
[13:56] <naught101> grrr... did I miss anything?
[13:56] <x1250> try using find ~/ -user root
[14:00] <naught101> x1250: sorry, I missed that find command, had to close my client
[14:01] <x1250> naught101, find ~/ -user root
[14:04] <naught101> x: a heap of stuff in the firectory I moved the .openoffice.org directory to
[14:04] <naught101> (old.openoffice.org)
[14:05] <naught101> x1250: chowned my whole ~ to me, no change...
[14:05] <naught101> damn, this connection is annoying
[14:05] <x1250> naught101, what about id you create a new user? does it work ok?
[14:05] <x1250> id/if
[14:05] <naught101> back in a sec, I'll try it...
[14:15] <x1250> brb
[14:17] <naught102> x1250: ok, I think I needed to restart after deleting .oo.org.. perhaps I had a zombie process or something...
[14:17] <naught102> anyway, it's working now, thanks a lot for your help
[14:21] <naught102> although, the "open" dialogue isn't...
[14:28] <naught102> looks like it's corrupting something in the .openoffice.org dir, and refusing to open until after a reboot, even when that dir has been removed
[14:29] <naught102> oh no, zombie soffice processes
[14:49] <x1250> naught102, did you find the problem?
[14:58] <zniavre> how did you passed the ABI stuff on nvidia drivers ?
[15:19] <x1250> zniavre, Section "ServerFlags", Option "IgnoreABI" "True"
[15:43] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek to start in #ubuntu-classroom in 17 minutes
[16:02] <zniavre> x1250: thank you but it does not work
[17:05] <tigreton> wola
[18:15] <BUGabundo> where do I place that -ignoreABI ?
[18:17] <x1250> BUGabundo, Section "ServerFlags", Option "IgnoreABI" "True"
[18:17] <BUGabundo> thanks
[18:17] <BUGabundo> does it help?
[18:17] <BUGabundo> or will I still end up with this ugly screen?
[18:18] <x1250> it has helped some, it works.
[18:18] <x1250> BUGabundo, what driver?
[18:19] <BUGabundo> Nvidia
[18:19] <BUGabundo> 180
[18:19] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/107029/
[18:19] <BUGabundo> every font is too big, no theme, lots of crashs with a few applets
[18:19] <BUGabundo> to many changes in a single day
[18:20] <BUGabundo> I've seem to have lost the user switch applet again
[18:21] <x1250> BUGabundo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/107030/
[18:22] <x1250> BUGabundo, are you running gdm? I have problems with the user switch applet if I don't use gdm.
[18:22] <BUGabundo> x1250: yes, gdm has started... I think
[18:23] <x1250> BUGabundo, are you sure your xorg.conf is ok? it seems that "ServerFlags" is in its own line.
[18:24] <BUGabundo> humm
[18:24] <BUGabundo> I  run dpkg reconfigure
[18:24] <BUGabundo> and it made a new one
[18:24] <BUGabundo> I added that seccion after you told me too
[18:25] <BUGabundo> is it on the wrong place?
[18:25] <x1250> then paste this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107030/
[18:25] <BUGabundo> I did
[18:25] <BUGabundo> ahh I see
[18:25] <BUGabundo> the line break
[18:26] <BUGabundo> I did insert it wrong
[18:26] <BUGabundo> fixed
[18:26] <x1250> yep, but I don't know if that could do any trouble
[18:26] <BUGabundo> will know better on next reboot
[18:27] <x1250> BUGabundo, if there are problems, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should say something. Is your 3D hardware accel working?
[18:28] <BUGabundo> humm don't think so
[18:28] <BUGabundo> at least nvidia-settings doesn't
[18:28] <BUGabundo> plus, dualmonitor with bryce tool also fails to enable the 2nd nonitor
[18:29] <x1250> and whar driver says /var/log/Xorg.0.log you're using?
[18:29] <x1250> what*
[18:29] <BUGabundo> Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist
[18:29] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/107036/
[18:30] <x1250> BUGabundo, you're using driver nv right now
[18:30] <BUGabundo> I never know
[18:31] <BUGabundo> nv is the prop or OSS?
[18:31] <x1250> try using Driver "nvidia" inside Section Device
[18:31] <x1250> "nv" -> opensource
[18:32] <x1250> nv is the default driver for nvidia
[18:39] <BUGabundo> x1250: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107039/
[18:39] <BUGabundo> is this correct?
[18:41] <x1250> BUGabundo, looks good to me. When restarting X, if it doesn't work, save a copy of the failed Xorg.0.log
[18:41] <BUGabundo> okay
[18:42] <BUGabundo> by the way does totem play audio for you?
[18:42] <BUGabundo> every other player works!
[18:43] <x1250> it works fine here. Odd...
[18:43] <BUGabundo> yeah
[18:43] <BUGabundo> need to instal debug symbols
[18:43] <BUGabundo> and file a bug to it then
[19:01] <andresmh> what version of compiz comes with jaunty?
[19:02] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy compiz  Installed: 1:0.7.8-0ubuntu6
[19:02] <BUGabundo> andresmh: ^^^^^^
[19:02] <BUGabundo> or use packages.ubuntu.com
[19:05]  * x1250 is installing kubuntu
[19:06] <andresmh> thanks BUGabundo
[19:10] <mrintegrity> hello!
[19:10] <mrintegrity> Using 9.04 alpha 3 on an eee 901 and the touch pad is really choppy, unconfigurable (required SHMconfig but cant enable that) and the wifi driver is not included in the kernel :)
[19:11] <mrintegrity> otherwise, it's significantly faster than 8.10
[19:11] <mrintegrity> I am using ext4, it's great
[19:11] <mrintegrity> could anyone help me sort out the touchpad or wifi?
[19:11] <BUGabundo> mrintegrity: wifi is in the wiki
[19:11] <BUGabundo> touchpad usually works okay
[19:12] <BUGabundo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[19:12] <mrintegrity> BUGabundo: yeah, dont know whats wrong with it. but i know a lot of people have issues with eee c 901 and touchpad
[19:12] <mrintegrity> tyhanks for the link!
[19:13] <BUGabundo> I saw a 1000h that was quite eradic
[19:13] <BUGabundo> really anoying
[19:13] <BUGabundo> wit 8.10
[19:13] <mrintegrity> yeah, they have a lot of new hardware..
[19:13] <mrintegrity> peformance on 8.10 was totaly unusable though with 901
[19:14] <BUGabundo> too much  to kept track of
[19:14] <mrintegrity> yup
[19:14] <BUGabundo> I instaled a couple of ubuntuumpc (ex-mobile) and it worked great
[19:14] <BUGabundo> not as fast as xandros
[19:14] <BUGabundo> but it booted in 20 secs after a kernel profile
[19:15] <mrintegrity> cool
[19:15] <tretle> anyone have any idea where you can test the new notifications that were shown on marks blog?
[19:16] <BUGabundo> tretle: AFAIK still hasn't hit the repos
[19:16] <tretle> is the source available anywhere or an svn repo?
[19:18] <tretle> this blog post was a bit misleading - http://en.andregondim.eti.br/?p=87
[19:19] <Pici> The notifcations on sabdfl's blog were a mockup.
[19:20] <tretle> yes but in that blog post about alpha 3 andre says the new notifications are in alpha 3
[19:27] <EagleScreen> is there any possibility of having linux 2.6.29 on Jaunty?
[19:32] <andresmh> I remember seeing a video from Shuttleworth about the new notification system for Ubuntu. Is that already in Jaunty alpha 3?
[19:34] <BUGabundo> andresmh: AFAIK no
[19:34] <BUGabundo> I don't have anything yet
[19:34] <andresmh> ok :)
[19:35] <andresmh> i'm still excited to try jaunty, i'm curious to see if audio works out of the box for my laptop
[19:43] <BUGabundo> andresmh: what's up with the audio? do you have a bug id for it?
[19:43] <andresmh> at some point i opened one i think
[19:43] <andresmh> but it has evolved
[19:44] <andresmh> basically the sound quality is slow
[19:44] <andresmh> and using the mic is difficult
[19:44] <andresmh> i find pulse very complicated
[20:08] <charlie-tca> Anyone else seeing xchat close intermittently when switching channels?
[20:46] <hggdh> charlie-tca, yes, I do -- it gets a SIGABRT, and apport does not trigger on aborts...
[20:47] <charlie-tca> Thanks. Should I report a bug?
[20:48] <DanaG> Ugh, stupid Hamachi.... hasn't been updated in over a year.
[20:48] <hggdh> I guess so, but we will need a stacktrace to know what happened. I personally think it is libc6 on memory allocation
[20:49] <DanaG> And it crashes nm-system-settings by returning info.driver = (NULL).
[20:49] <hggdh> here's what I will do: I will close xchat & reopen it under gdb. Then I will wait for the error again
[20:49] <hggdh> brb
[20:50]  * DanaG ponders ndisswrapping the hamachi Windows driver.
[20:50] <hggdh> charlie-tca, I am not running under GDB. Now we just wait...
[20:50] <hggdh> s/not/now/
[20:51] <charlie-tca> Okay. I'll confirm when it happens then.
[20:52]  * charlie-tca happy not to be going nuts!
[20:52] <hggdh> if you opened the bug, please give me the #; otherwise I will open it
[20:52] <charlie-tca> I have not opened it. I thought I could confirm when you do.
[20:53] <hggdh> k, np
[21:20]  * user___ thinks would be great if jaunty could do real fullscreen in virtualbox, even gparted live cd does it, which is is based on debian IIRC
[21:22] <DanaG> (nm-system-settings:17953): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance of invalid non-instantiatable type `(null)'
[21:22] <DanaG> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:22] <DanaG> in nm-system-settings.
[21:23] <Tekno> should fstab be empty in 9.04 ?
[21:23] <Tekno> system works with empty fstab o_O
[21:28] <gletob> Hey I am running jaunty, does anyone here know how to convert EXT3 to EXT4?
[21:28] <Tekno> i did it 5mins ago
[21:29] <gletob> Tekno: How?
[21:29] <Tekno> with this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1033163
[21:29] <x1250> gletob, take a look at bug #317781 first
[21:32] <charlie-tca> Tekno: not empty here.
[21:32] <Tekno> strange
[21:33] <Tekno> i really have empty fstab and still everything works
[21:33] <Tekno> sda1 mounts as ext4 to /
[21:34]  * charlie-tca thinks that is different, anyway
[21:50] <x1250> what about aptitude's miserable failure removing automatic dependencies? I installed kubuntu-desktop just to see how it was now a days, and I was amazed after purging... only kubuntu-desktop package, and nothing more.
[21:51] <raof> That's odd.  It should work.
[21:52] <x1250> then I tried apt-get autoremove, but nothing else was removed. So I had to uninstall some kde libraries to make kubuntu go away.
[22:25] <Melik> hi everyone
[22:29] <evan_> hello how i the new beta?
[22:30] <evan_> alpha*\
[22:30] <bazhang> evan_, see the topic
[22:30] <evan_> bazhang: your pointing on: it will most certainly break your system in bad ways?
[22:31] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/
[22:31] <bazhang> evan_, ^^
[22:31] <evan_> bazhang: isnt that put there by default?
 hello how i the new beta?
[22:33] <evan_> bazhang: see the next message by me
[22:33] <bazhang> evan_, what is your question.
[22:34] <bazhang> evan_, I gave you the link, did you need something else; if so please specify with some exactitude
[22:34] <x1250> what are the blacklist.DSA-1024 and blacklist.RSA-2048 files inside /etc/ssh  suppose to do?
[22:35] <evan_> bazhang: well my question is how it is, will it break your system, will it overrule intrpid etc etc
[22:35] <bazhang> evan_, this is not a chat channel; if you wish you may try jaunty, though it is ill-advised as the topic states.
[22:35] <bazhang> evan_, this is a support channel for folks who are actively using jaunty.
[22:36] <x1250> aaa wrong channel, sorry
[22:38] <evan_> bazhang: i'd like to help but if my first question about the state of the project is rejected like this... i can better leave..
[22:38] <bazhang> ??
[22:49] <calc> how do i get to the real volume control in jaunty?
[22:49] <calc> its very quiet on my system probably because the new volume control applet is crap
[22:53] <calc> and the sound configurator is missing also :\
[22:53] <raof> alsamixer from the commandline?
[22:54] <calc> raof: ugh ok, still doesn't resolve my headset issue (well i need to verify if it is an issue yet
[22:54]  * calc goes to plug it in
[23:20] <linuxman410> is 1min 29 seconds good for boot time on ubuntu
[23:25] <DanaG> If I posted my bootchart, would somebody be able to suggest ways to improve my boot time?
[23:55] <DanaG> Argh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/300443
[23:57] <DanaG> Don't you love how launchpad returns this sort of file?
[23:57] <DanaG> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20390451/20-ntfs-3g-policy.fdi
[23:57] <DanaG> All I see is this:                   ntfs-3g         ntfs-3g         locale=