[00:00] <semistud2354_> which i hate to say...WAS THE SAME PROBLEM WITH WINDOWS
[00:00] <semistud2354_> VISTA
[00:01] <EtFb> Didn't test that.  Hang on, just trying The Artist Formerly Known As Hibernate... which is taking a lot longer, as you'd expect with a RAM disk!  Hang on... how does that work?  Bugger, I suspect it may be the Wrong Thing to even try...
[00:01] <Dr_willis> ive had way to many problems with Hibernate/suspend - i dont even try it in any OS any more
[00:02] <jpedroza> alonea: Not sure
[00:02] <EtFb> Yes, that was rather silly.  Running a Live CD, so naturally Suspend to Disk is a bit useless...  At least it didn't kill my hard disk... I think...
[00:02] <Dr_willis> in theory it would suspend to the Swap partition..  - i think :)
[00:02] <alonea> Dr_willis: hey do you know where I could hardcode the width of the plasma bar? it doesn't do it right on my friends computer and has to resize it on every login
[00:02] <EtFb> Dr_willis: What version were you running when you last had trouble?
[00:03] <PSiL0> !wifi
[00:03] <Dr_willis> alonea,  not really.
[00:03] <alonea> Dr_willis: was worth a shot to ask
[00:03] <jpedroza> alonea: Has he tried locking the panel?
[00:03] <Dr_willis> EtFb,  ive had issues with hibernate/suspend in every machine ive ever had with every os ive ever had.. :) the only one it seems to work decently well on.. is my Acer Aspire one and XP :)
[00:03] <EtFb> Dr_willis: I felt like I was in a Greg Egan novel for a second (an obscure reference?  Substitute "in The Matrix" if it helps.)
[00:03] <jpedroza> Right click->Lock Widgets
[00:03] <alonea> jpedroza: i tried locking it last night with no luck
[00:03] <Dr_willis> EtFb,  and then theissue is that sure the OS resumes.. but a lot of the apps HATE it when they get resumed.
[00:03] <jpedroza> bummer
[00:04] <PSiL0> so, my wireless connection (router: WRT54GL [tomato firmware]) has been working fine for about two months, suddenly two days ago, the connection dropped from knetwork
[00:04] <PSiL0> any attempt reconnect was in vain
[00:04] <alonea> jpedroza: it just went back to its small width with no plasma icon to the right.
[00:04] <PSiL0> the only way to reconnect is to restart my laptop
[00:04] <PSiL0> anyone had similar issues?
[00:04] <EtFb> Dr_willis: I used to get weird behaviour with my wifi card refusing to wake up, so I had to reboot (no idea how else to restart it), but not often.  Maybe one in fifty suspend/resumes at most.
[00:05] <alonea> PSiL0: i think I did a lonnnnng time ago on kubuntu...6? but not here.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> i rarely use wirelesss. so most of my issues wwere with non-wirless stuff :)
[00:05] <PSiL0> alonea: using 08.10
[00:05] <alonea> PSiL0: but I think I might be confusing that with if I did not plug in my ethernet cable before startup...not internets for me
[00:06] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: Ohhhhhhhh, new desktop picture!
[00:07] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: Me likey the new look. Well done you!
[00:07] <alonea> PSiL0: yup. we installed it last night. now I kinda know whats causing it and it has to do with vmware. to get resolution to work,  you have to set res to 1024x768, the login screen is smaller, but when he logs in, linux sets res to proper 1200x800. only thing that seems to not size correctly is the stupid bar on the bottom.
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> jpedroza: I'd thank the awesome KDE dudes for that there. :-)
[00:08] <jpedroza> Well, it is really slick, except that the buttons on the task manager are still grey
[00:09] <jpedroza> might be an issue with NVIDIA driver
[00:09] <alonea> PSiL0: if you set the res in vmware tools to 1200x800...you get super super TINY fonts and everything has shrunk dramatically...
[00:11] <Edgar> hello, I already have kde4 in ubuntu, ﻿how can I upgrade to 4.1.x?
[00:11] <alonea> well, I will try again later...
[00:11] <alonea> Edgar: you not on intrepid?
[00:11] <alonea> Edgar: er nm
[00:12] <PSiL0> alonea: hmm, my concern was with knetworkmanager dropping my wifi signal and being unable to reconnect to my router
[00:12] <Edgar> ubuntu 8.04
[00:12] <alonea> PSiL0: my bad! wrong person. soooooo not here. gonna go away now...
[00:12] <alonea> Edgar: upgrade to intrepid.
[00:12] <PSiL0> alonea: lol... that's okay
[00:13] <PSiL0> hope the person that was intended to was helped it
[00:14] <Edgar> why can't I keep my ubuntu 8.04?
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> there are KDE 4.1 packages for hardy
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> give me a bit and I'll find installation instructions
[00:15] <Edgar> ok
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> Edgar: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2
[00:15] <Frederick> folks which program can I use to record voice in linux?
[00:17] <sven_oostenbrink> Im trying to do an apt-get upgrade with a kde4.2 beta repo added.. Im getting various 404 errors on .deb files.. is there anything known about this?
[00:18] <Dr_willis> serers could be down .
[00:18] <Dr_willis> servers...
[00:25] <Stathis`> καλημερααα, τι κανετε;
[00:25] <Stathis`> hey all
[00:25] <Stathis`> how are you?
[00:27] <Stathis`> are you alive??
[00:27] <Stathis`> :)))
[00:29] <snarkster> evening... when i mount my G1 phone dolphin crashes when trying to open it.. Im downloading the dbg files now to produce a a full error report.. Is this a known issue?
[00:31]  * Stathis` if a hacker can not see my ports and my OS am i safe?  i am mad becouse i want a good firewall, antivirus and a way to hide my OS from traces???
[00:34] <wesley> what would you guys do if you loved one ignores all your emails?
[00:35] <bazhang> wesley, discuss elsewhere please
[00:36] <wesley> #kubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk with me
[00:37] <snarkster> dolphin crashes anyone got anyhting to say about it?
[00:38] <wesley> happens sometimes
[00:46] <benni> hi
[00:49] <snarkster> everytime i try to access my G1 it crashes.
[00:50] <snarkster> nautilus doesnt crash!
[00:56] <emma> can kubuntu automount a luks encrypted usb drive?
[01:10] <uffo> what do yo guys think is kde 4.2 really usable now, kde 4.0 and 4.1 had not so feature rich and stable???
[01:11] <syockit> Sometimes during a boot, before the system mounts the root partition, it will do a disk check. How do I control this behavior?
[01:12] <syockit> KDE 4.0 was a mess. KDE 4.1 imo is good enough for production use
[01:13] <syockit> I'm using 4.2, but not seeing any major differences apart from the new Activities
[01:14] <FoxBlitzz> Eh, I'm not ready to use KDE4 until it stops acting sluggish
[01:14] <Rudd-O> hey kde4 acts sluggish when there is no decent acceleration
[01:15] <FoxBlitzz> I did enable KWin's enhanced compositioning
[01:15] <Cancil> 8.10 looks nice :)
[01:15] <FoxBlitzz> But it still drew a lot of stuff in software
[01:15] <FoxBlitzz> So it was still really slow
[01:15] <syockit> Never been on 3.5, so can't comment. Acceleration might be the thing.
[01:15] <FoxBlitzz> And FPS was nowhere near what Compiz could schieve
[01:15] <FoxBlitzz> 3.5 is really fast. I really like it.
[01:17] <uffo> 3.5 is ancient stuff, 4.x is future
[01:17] <FoxBlitzz> Don't get me wrong, I'd like to use 4.x
[01:17] <Stathis`> Cancil:  very nice
[01:17] <FoxBlitzz> But I hate how it's sluggish and eats up all my CPU.
[01:17] <zicada> it does ?
[01:17] <FoxBlitzz> I'm not using it until they fix those issues.
[01:17] <zicada> its surprisingly fast on my box
[01:17] <zicada> 4.2RC that is
[01:18] <Cancil> would you recommend using a swap partition on a ssd?
[01:18] <Cancil> only 512MB ram
[01:20] <uffo> what do you people think is gnome if future or kde, i think kde just because of easyer and faster development speed and all structure is documented within kde4 and qt4
[01:20] <uffo> is*
[01:21] <Cancil> uffo: depends on what you need
[01:21] <Cancil> for desktop users, kde is pretty fine
[01:21] <uffo> i do not look war kde vs gnome but technical adwancment
[01:21] <FoxBlitzz> KDE4 is being developed surprisingly fast
[01:22] <Cancil> uffo: id say it rather depends on your taste ;)
[01:23] <FoxBlitzz> Cancil: I think he's referring to development
[01:24] <Cancil> ok, in that case gnome is more conservative whereas kde has more new stuff :P
[01:24] <Cancil> i wouldnt say theres no future in gnome developement
[01:25] <uffo> is that true that gnome has harder to develop than kde4 because of C language, for example ubuntu uses lot of other programming languages to support GUI tools on desktop but kde4 is all same one system
[01:26] <Cancil> i heard that qt was pretty fine to cope with
[01:26] <FoxBlitzz> I believe most of KDE's bundled applications are written in C++
[01:26] <Cancil> gtk uses a lot python
[01:26] <RoastedTiresX> sup guys
[01:26] <Cancil> i dont think its bad :)
[01:26] <RoastedTiresX> I have an Ubuntu question even though I'm in the Kubuntu chat room (got banned, long story)... I can't get my microphone to work in 8.10 64 bit Ubuntu... anybody have any ideas of what I could try?
[01:26] <Stathis`> i have ubuntu and kubuntu together .... may i update kde new version at Kubuntu and how ??
[01:27] <Stathis`> in new KDE i mean in kubuntu
[01:27] <uffo> example ubuntu has that note program written in mono and lot of other tools in python but all should be one like kde4 c++ and because i think kde may become very standard in future
[01:27] <FoxBlitzz> Stathis`: You mean KDE3 to KDE4?
[01:28] <Stathis`> from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 is new version
[01:29] <Stathis`> something like that
[01:29] <FoxBlitzz> 4.2 has not officially released yet
[01:29] <FoxBlitzz> But you can try the neon-nightly beta
[01:29] <Stathis`> there is e new now
[01:30] <FoxBlitzz> KDE 4.2 is in RC now, which means it's not quite the final release but very close
[01:30] <Stathis`> try www.kde.org
[01:30] <Stathis`> Latest Announcements
[01:30] <Stathis`> Hotspot
[01:30] <Stathis`> KDE 4.1.4 and 4.2 Release Candidate Available Now
[01:30] <FoxBlitzz> Yes, I see
[01:30] <Cancil> uffo: kde wont go standard that fast
[01:31] <FoxBlitzz> A release candidate is not the final release, but is very close to it
[01:31] <Cancil> uffo: most people are looking for stable and conservative stuff
[01:31] <FoxBlitzz> You may just want to wait a week until they have the official public release of 4.2
[01:32] <Stathis`> FoxBlitzz:  and how i can update it ... i have kubuntu
[01:32] <FoxBlitzz> The 27th is the official release date IIRC
[01:32] <FoxBlitzz> Again, you can install the neon-nightly build if you want to, but it might be best to wait a week
[01:33] <Stathis`> the update is auto in kubuntu ?
[01:33] <FoxBlitzz> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1
[01:34] <FoxBlitzz> You must add this to your 3rd party software sources: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[01:34] <Stathis`> thanks
[01:35] <Stathis`> iwill wait a litle
[01:35] <syockit> What's the status one GNOME 3 then?
[01:35] <FoxBlitzz> I haven't checked, but I assume they will make KDE 4.2 an automatic upgrade when it comes out
[01:36] <FoxBlitzz> Because it's not like you'll lose settings or anything
[01:36] <FoxBlitzz> Someone correct me on this?
[01:36] <Cancil> syockit: nothing concrete yet
[01:37] <uffo> is that network manager is in kubuntu 9.04 http://osnews.com/img/20758/1.png
[01:38] <Cancil> uffo: this looks like kde 4.2^^
[01:38] <FoxBlitzz> Hmm
[01:38] <Cancil> if theres an automatic update youll get it on ibex too
[01:38] <FoxBlitzz> Is that meter to the left of the battery indicator the KSysGuard applet?
[01:40] <syockit> uffo: Hey, I don't have anything like that! Maybe it's from a widget?
[01:40] <uffo> ohh it wont be in 4.2 http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=839 BUT 4.3 includes this and Kubuntu 9.10 should include it
[01:40] <uffo> so 9.10 must lost old network manager
[01:43] <uffo> kde4 develops way faster than gnome, i am not programmer but i think because of c++ and full documentation and very good system infrastructure
[01:45]  * Stathis` byezzzz
[01:46] <pascal> there s someone ?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> 286 total someones....
[01:47] <astromme> uffo: Yes, that's a network manager that's in playground atm. It will NOT be in 4.2 but some distrobutions might put it into their 4.2 packages anyways
[01:47] <Cancil> c++ is normally slower to develop^
[01:47] <astromme> Cancil: not when compared to plain C
[01:48] <Dr_willis> I thought C++ was suppose to make it faster. :)
[01:48] <Cancil> python is faster :)
[01:48] <astromme> and when your options are KDE or Gnome (for complete desktop environments)... imho KDE with C++ wins out in eas of development
[01:51] <emma> does anyone happen to know if kubuntu can automount a luks encrypted usb drive?
[01:52] <Cancil> brb
[02:01] <Dr_willis> emma,  if all else fails you could put a line in /etc/rc.local to mount it.. if you know th proper command
[02:01] <Dr_willis> but you want it mounted as its plugged in?
[02:02] <emma> yeah
[02:02] <emma> i want to be able to at least access it...
[02:08] <Dr_willis> if you knew the proper fstab entry for it . that would be best..
[02:08] <Dr_willis> or if you knew how to mount it manually from the command line that could work also
[02:08] <Dr_willis> Ive no idea what a  ' luks encrypted' is :) ive neer used one
[02:09] <RoastedTiresX> dudes
[02:09] <RoastedTiresX> I cant get my microphone working to save my life
[02:09] <RoastedTiresX> can anybody help?
[02:10] <Adola> Dr_willis: Ah, yes!  Thanks for the help regarding fstab the otherday.
[02:10] <Adola> I would suggest that GUI program you told me to use.  It worked for me!
[02:12] <tweakedeh> Is it possable to take all my contacts out of kopete and put them in to knntact?
[02:12] <tweakedeh> kontact**
[02:14] <elbone> Does anyone know where to choose the "look and feel" of kubuntu... where you can choose Unix,KDE,Mac or Microsoft ??
[02:14] <draik> I am trying to burn a CD. I am being told that there isn't enough space on the harddisk. My HDD has 35GB available and the CD is blank. What is happening? This is with both k3b and Brasero.
[02:16] <astromme> draik: do you have a small / or /tmp?
[02:17] <draik> astromme: I shouldn't. Nothing has changed.
[02:17] <elbone> Does anyone know where to choose the "look and feel" of kubuntu... where you can choose Unix,KDE,Mac or Microsoft ??
[02:17] <Dr_willis> draik,  its making an Image of the cd on the hd first most likely.. you need a  600+mb free for that.
[02:17] <draik> Dr_willis: I have 35GB free ;)
[02:18] <Dr_willis> draik,  prove it :)  it may be mounted read only.. check mount command. see if you can make other files..
[02:19] <draik> Dr_willis: df -h has 35GB free; using 90% of HDD. I am trying to burn an audio CD.
[02:22] <wesley> i have started a new channel #kde-dating
[02:23] <draik> wesley: You want to start dating KDE?
[02:23] <wesley> lol
[02:24] <wesley> Would´nt that be cool kde dating
[02:24] <wesley> ive started the channel already
[02:24]  * astromme chuckles
[02:25] <wesley> Not like there are any girls there
[02:26] <draik> So KDE is male?
[02:27] <wesley> most off them ?
[02:27] <draik> Dr_willis: astromme: Here is a pastebin to the Error Log from k3b: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d408f5cac
[02:28] <elbone> ubuntu forums are back up
[02:28] <astromme> Dragnslcr: I don't see any errors in that =/
[02:29] <neoTheCat_> hello.  how do i turn off the screensaver in kde4 rc2?  i go to system settings, and it is off, but the screensaver still comes on.
[02:30] <draik> astromme: Yeah, me neither. :(
[02:30] <astromme> neoTheCat_: Does the screensaver come up or is it just the screen turning off? You have to check power settings too.
[02:31] <neoTheCat_> nope, the screensaver.  asks for a password...
[02:31] <bernhard> ok, my acer aspire one 110L runs now pretty well with kubuntu
[02:31] <bernhard> but there are a lot graphic errors
[02:34] <draik> astromme: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1f5016fa          That is the result from "df -h"
[02:35] <astromme> draik: I don't see any problems. =/
[02:35] <draik> astromme: I removed (and purged) k3b, then reinstalled. Seems to work now. Go figure.
[02:37] <astromme> draik: Glad it works. dunno what was wrong
[02:39] <bernhard> look at the right lower corner http://s4b.directupload.net/images/090120/2vpabko8.png
[02:40] <bernhard> btw aptitude is still recommended for updating right?
[02:41] <Snoopy_Corleone> hey guys i'm having some issues booting a gui with 8.10
[02:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> i get thrown to terminal with initramfs
[02:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> but, any command i type seems to result in /bin/sh:*whatever command*:not found
[02:44] <astromme> Snoopy_Corleone: if you're thrown to initramfs then it isn't mounting your root device. Make sure that the root drive is correct in grub
[02:44] <elbone> 1016elidaly
[02:44] <elbone> shit
[02:44] <Snoopy_Corleone> hm... let me try something then
[02:45] <elbone> wrong box :D
[02:45] <elbone> Does anyone know where to choose the "look and feel" of kubuntu... where you can choose Unix,KDE,Mac or Microsoft ??
[02:46] <Snoopy_Corleone> i forgot i was booting from optiical disk for a while
[02:46] <CodeGuru> elbone: go to  http://kde-look.org/
[02:46] <Snoopy_Corleone> let me see if putting hard drive back as the first place to boot from would help >.<
[02:47] <elbone> CodeGure: I want to know where to choose the feel like double click selection/ highlight windows shade and whatnot
[02:48] <Snoopy_Corleone> ok how would i make sure root drive is correct in grub
[02:49] <Dr_willis> from the grub shell, you could use its find command to see where the root files needed are at.
[02:49] <Dr_willis> adding/removing hard drives causes the drives to 'reorder' theirselfs.. hd1 may becomd hd2 and so forth
[02:50] <Snoopy_Corleone> ah whats the command to local root files?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> grub has  a 'find' command
[02:50] <Dr_willis> in the grub shell
[02:50] <p_quarles> Snoopy_Corleone: I think you may have accidentally a verb
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> whats the problem?
[02:51] <Snoopy_Corleone> *locate lol
[02:51] <p_quarles> :D
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Note i am refering to the 'GRUB" command line shell.. not the bash shell
[02:51] <p_quarles> Snoopy_Corleone: what files are you looking for?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> see the grub manual/docs :) since i gotta go to work
[02:51] <Dr_willis> !grub
[02:52] <Admiral_Chicago> Super Grub Disk makes it very easy to repair an install
[02:52] <Snoopy_Corleone> holy shit lot of stuff poped up fast
[02:52] <Dr_willis> find /boot/grub/stage1
[02:52] <Dr_willis> or find /grub/stage1
[02:52] <Snoopy_Corleone> it replies "no such file or directory"
[02:55] <p_quarles> Snoopy_Corleone: you are in the grub shell, correct?
[02:55] <Snoopy_Corleone> yea
[02:55] <p_quarles> hmm -- find /boot/grub/stage1 is what I'm coming up with as well
[02:56] <Snoopy_Corleone> not found
[02:56] <p_quarles> okay, sounds like grub isn't installed in the mbr then
[02:57] <Snoopy_Corleone> x.x
[02:57] <p_quarles> so you would go with root (hd0,0) instead
[02:57] <p_quarles> changing hd0,0 to the appropriate drive/partition
[02:57] <p_quarles> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[02:58] <bernhard> i have to do a dist-upgrade after adding the sources for kde 4.2rc right?
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> bernhard: yea
[03:01] <Snoopy_Corleone> how do i get to manual partition?
[03:01] <elbone> how do i get kubuntu to behanve like unix
[03:01] <elbone> behave*
[03:03] <p_quarles> Snoopy_Corleone: it's an option during installation; or run gparted from the live cd
[03:03] <p_quarles> elbone: what does that mean?
[03:04] <Snoopy_Corleone> thats the issue i never get there when i use the "install ubuntu" option
[03:07] <Snoopy_Corleone> when i go to install ubuntu i get buffer, I/O error on device sr0
[03:07] <artur_> Hi all. How to enable php_imap ?
[03:07] <Snoopy_Corleone> along with a long number of errors
[03:08] <artur_> sorry
[03:08] <artur_> wrong place
[03:09] <Snoopy_Corleone> squashfs erorr unable to read
[03:09] <Snoopy_Corleone> end request: I/O error ect ect
[03:10]  * Snoopy_Corleone sighs
[03:13] <p_quarles> Snoopy_Corleone: have you tried, say, the Gparted live disk? super grub disk?
[03:14] <Snoopy_Corleone> how would i go about doing that?
[03:16] <p_quarles> Snoopy_Corleone: find those disks, download them, burn them to CD, and boot :)
[03:16] <Snoopy_Corleone> oh >.<
[03:16] <p_quarles> they are extremely useful utilities for system rescue, so it doesn't hurt to have them around anyway
[03:17] <Snoopy_Corleone> worth a shot let me go grab some blank cds
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Super Grub Disk is the one I use, very very useful
[03:18] <Snoopy_Corleone> alright
[03:19] <Snoopy_Corleone> dl an iso of it and burn?
[03:19] <p_quarles> pretty much
[03:24] <Snoopy_Corleone> hmmm if only I could do visual basic on linux >.<
[03:26]  * p_quarles doesn't want a bootloader written in VB
[03:26] <Snoopy_Corleone> lol i don't want to write for linux in vb
[03:26] <Snoopy_Corleone> just i have a vb class lol
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> nobody should ever have to
[03:27] <BentFrank> Trying to install Kubuntu.  I have an 8.10 disk.  I ran the disk check and it found errors in 52 files.  So, installing from am 8.04 disk.  Every time it gets to "Keyboard layout" and no matter what I select it never un-grays the Forward button.  Any idea?
[03:27] <bernhard> is there something equal to cheese in kde?
[03:27] <jughead> I have a question about the k menu location and xrandr.  I am running kubuntu 8.04 Hardy and I have a TV connected through s-video.  it works great except the menu is on the TV and not on the laptop screen.  How can I edit where it goes?
[03:27] <bernhard> webcam utility
[03:30] <kysiragi> hey room
[03:37] <Snoopy_Corleone> ok burned sgd
[03:37] <Snoopy_Corleone> inserted it and booted
[03:37] <Snoopy_Corleone> so lets see what happens lol
[03:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> ok
[03:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> i put the sgd
[03:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> in
[03:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> it told me at the next screen remove disk and reboot
[03:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> tried that
[03:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> then i tried just continously hitting a as instructed till i got to terminal
[03:42] <Snoopy_Corleone> any suggestions where to go from here?
[03:45] <zicada> say, how would i go about installing a i386 build of opera (with shared qt libs) on a x86_64 install of kubuntu ?
[03:45] <SeMi> Is anyone here not AFK?
[03:45] <zicada> massive hassle with emulated env etc ? or simple with a few 32libs ?
[03:47] <SeMi> Can someone help me out?
[03:47] <zicada> whats the issue mate ?
[03:47] <SeMi> I want to dual-boot Windows XP Professional and Kubuntu...
[03:48] <SeMi> I was wondering if someone can help me as per if my PC can handle it etc
[03:48] <zicada> that basically works out of the box
[03:48] <zicada> automagically
[03:48] <SeMi> Kubuntu does?
[03:48] <zicada> yeah, you basically just get an option to pick winxp on the grub bootloader
[03:48] <zicada> when you boot it
[03:49] <SeMi> :$ I'm a total noob when it comes to dual booting
[03:49] <SeMi> What is Grub?
[03:49] <zicada> the linux bootloader
[03:49] <SeMi> Oh ok
[03:49] <zicada> have a quick google on it
[03:52] <Snoopy_Corleone> sgd seems unable to fix w/e error there is X.x
[03:55] <Roey> Riddell:  heya Jonathan... I was wondering, will KDE 4.2 packages for Kubuntu be released coincidental to the official KDE 4.2 one?
[04:01] <ubuntu_> i have a problem with a root drive that is 99% full can anyone tell me how to delete something  with out loosing my root directory
[04:02] <BentFrank> Installing Kubuntu 8.04.  Every time I get to Keyboard layout and click Forward, it does Scaning disks... and Detecting file systems..., then just stops doing anyhting.  It isn't frozen, it just stops installing.  I can cancel and restart the install but it alwasy stops there.  Any ideas?
[04:03] <BentFrank> ubuntu_:  use the du command to find where the big files are that are filling it up
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i know which files i need to remove   but i cannot get at them
[04:04] <BentFrank> disable any Recycle Bins you might have
[04:04] <ubuntu_> right now i am using live cd to communicate
[04:05] <ubuntu_> i did du  from a terminal  but i don't know if what i am seeing is from the live cd or my real hard drives
[04:06] <Snoopy_Corleone> hey guys how do i use super gnome to get ubuntu to install ? >.<
[04:06] <BentFrank> install on a fresh disk, boot off that, and mount the old disk as data
[04:06] <ubuntu_> is there a command that i can user to access my hard drives so that i can move some things?
[04:06] <BentFrank> mount
[04:08] <Snoopy_Corleone> hmmmmm
[04:08] <Snoopy_Corleone> >.<
[04:10] <BentFrank> I'm installing Kubuntu 8.04.  Every time I get to Keyboard layout and click Forward, it does Scanning disks... and Detecting file systems..., then just stops doing anything.  It isn't frozen, it just stops installing.  I can cancel and restart the install but it always stops there.  Where is a good bbs to post this on?
[04:17] <BentFrank> I downloaded 8.10 and checked teh md5 hash and it was good.  I burned it to a CD and on the install screen I did "Check disk for errors."  It found "Errors in 52 files".  I burned it at a slower rate than the burner was capable of, to have less errors.  Could that have created the errors?
[04:25] <Snoopy_Corleone> i have the worst luck with computers recently >.<;
[04:27] <Resistol> Hi all, what version of Kubuntu / KDE do you think I should be using?  Is 8.10 ready to use?  And would KDE 4.2 work well with it?
[04:27] <Resistol> I noticed OpenSuse uses KDE 4.2
[04:28] <Snoopy_Corleone> maybe trying to boot 8.10 is why i'm having problems x.X
[04:30] <NGL-TwYsTeD> hi
[04:30] <skreech> !Hi
[04:30] <eross> anyone else having mouse troubles, trying to grab the titlebar to move a window and it maximizes it instead of dragging it?
[04:30] <NGL-TwYsTeD> in my network settings my location is not saving so i can green check apply
[04:30] <NGL-TwYsTeD> for my wifi
[04:30] <NGL-TwYsTeD> any suggestions?
[04:58] <Labud> I am having a problem  with a hardrive that is too full and now I can't delete or move files from it and my system is not working  can anyone help?
[05:02] <xp-killer> i went on a website then came back to google and ko,queror give me an error saying :
[05:02] <xp-killer> ATTENTION! If your computer is struck by the spyware, you could suffer data loss, unusual  PC behaviour, PC freezes and crashes.Detect and remove viruses before they damage your computer!Antivirus 2009 will perform a 100% FREE and quick scan  of your PC for Viruses, Spyware and Adware.Do you want to install Antivirus 2009 to scan your computer for malware now? (Recommended)
[05:02] <xp-killer> crap
[05:02] <skreech> ohnoez! You betetr buy Antivirus
[05:02] <xp-killer> sorry i didnt know it was that long to paste
[05:03] <xp-killer> skreech: yea it say that but im on linux i taught virus dont do linux nothing
[05:04] <eross> xp-killer, this is av2009 that pops up in XP and drives people crazy. Are you saying it's happening in linux?
[05:05] <skreech> xp-killer: It is lying. It would say that no matter what the status of your system is. They just want you to buy something
[05:08] <xp-killer> ouf cause i got scared like hell cause i does only download with linux cause virus dont do nothing so i downloaded a lot of crap around 500 gigs of data and i dont want to loose none
[05:09] <tweakedeh> Where do I find the special characters?
[05:09] <skreech> xp-killer: Back up then :)
[05:09] <xp-killer> on xo i lost a lot of things because of virus and spywares
[05:09] <skreech> tweakedeh: kcharslelect ?
[05:09] <skreech> xp-killer: xp? Yeah that would happen
[05:10] <xp-killer> skreech: way u want me back up 500 gigs?:s
[05:10] <xp-killer> not on dvd's that going to take for ever
[05:10] <skreech> Yes
[05:10] <xp-killer> skreech: im going to wait till 2010 for the BD rom 400gig to come out then i will back up lol
[05:11] <xp-killer> on dvd it going take me forever
[05:11] <tweakedeh> skreech: I don't have it and it's not in the Adept Installer....
[05:11] <xp-killer> to copy
[05:12] <skreech> kcharselect should be there
[05:13] <tweakedeh> skreech: yep, I c/p what you had before. I guess you spelt it wrong, thanks
[05:14] <Lo-si> hi im running kubuntu 8.04 hardy and have win4lin, and i installed kvm but win4lin keeps saying i need to install kvm even though its installed and checks out ok with no errors. Do i have to turn it on or something?
[05:15] <skreech> tweakedeh: I did
[05:16] <NGL-TwYsTeD> sorry no one could help
[05:16] <NGL-TwYsTeD> God Bless
[05:17] <joh6nn> update-notifier-kde will not run for me at the start of my KDE session; i've checked it's settings and it's definitely set to notify me of daily updates, and it runs without error from the console.  anyone have any thoughts?
[05:26] <ubuntu> I'm installing kubuntu 8.10 and I'm partitioning the hard drive using the kubuntu installer. The default settings for the new partition are "type: logical" and "use as: Ext3 journaling file system." Is this okay or should I change it?
[05:27] <mefisto__> if I install ubuntu-desktop, what does that do to the sound system under kde? will I have kde working with pulseaudio? or is it not that straightforward?
[05:27] <joh6nn> ubuntu: that setting is fine.  are you installing linux for the first time?
[05:28] <ubuntu> yes
[05:28] <joh6nn> :)
[05:28] <joh6nn> are you doing this on a drive that has a windows install on it, as well?
[05:29] <ubuntu> yes
[05:30] <joh6nn> well, here's a suggestion, then:
[05:30] <joh6nn> i normally have my linux installs separated out into a couple of different partitions for reasons that aren't worth getting into just at the moment.  you don't need to get that complicated yet.
[05:30] <joh6nn> but, what you might want to do is this:
[05:32] <joh6nn> make 2 partitions for your linux install: a 10 gig partition for the actual OS itself, and a second partition (how big is up to you, but i'd say at least 5 gigs) for your /home directory, which is roughly equivalent to C:\Documents And Settings in windows
[05:33] <hellraiser> hello all
[05:34] <ubuntu> sounds logical
[05:34] <hellraiser> may i have some help
[05:34] <hellraiser> im new to linux
[05:34] <skreech> hellraiser:
[05:34] <joh6nn> hellraiser: it's generally considered weird to ask if you can ask; just go ahead and ask your question. :)
[05:34] <skreech> Would help a lot if we knew what was wrong
[05:34] <joh6nn> if anyone knows the answer they'll pipe up.
[05:34] <hellraiser> i just installed kubuntu but cant open exes
[05:35] <hellraiser> ese's
[05:35] <hellraiser> exe's
[05:35] <skreech> hellraiser: THat's normal. Anything in particualr you want to run?
[05:35] <hellraiser> steam
[05:35] <hellraiser> games
[05:35] <hellraiser> :-P
[05:35] <mefisto__> !wine | hellraiser
[05:35] <joh6nn> hellraiser: right; windows and linux are totally different.  you can't run windows programs on linux.
[05:35] <skreech> hellraiser: You need to install Wine. Ask in #winehq for help
[05:35] <p_quarles> joh6nn: yes you can
[05:36] <hellraiser> thanx
[05:37] <mefisto__> wine can't do directx though, so lots of windows games won't work
[05:37] <mefisto__> right?
[05:37] <joh6nn> p_quarles: wine's not enough of a solution to just be satisfied with.  saying "yes you can" sort of gives the user false hope.
[05:38] <ubuntu> joh6nn: thank you for your help
[05:38] <joh6nn> ubuntu: no problem! good luck with the install, and i hope Kubuntu works out for you. :)
[05:39] <p_quarles> joh6nn: "you can't run windows programs on linux." <-- demonstrably false statement
[05:39] <joh6nn> ugh.  ok, look.  is it seriously worth being that pedantic about?  is it really?
[05:39] <skreech> joh6nn:
[05:39] <skreech> I'd say yes
[05:40] <p_quarles> joh6nn: you can run Windows programs on Linux; end of story
[05:40] <skreech> I'd also say you are right about false hope
[05:40] <mefisto__> well, I think it is worth being pedantic when talking to people new to linux
[05:40] <hellraiser> lawl
[05:40] <hellraiser> chill
[05:40] <hellraiser> ill figure it out
[05:42] <mefisto__> anyone here that has gnome and kde installed?
[05:43] <p_quarles> mefisto__: yep
[05:44] <mefisto__> p_quarles: does kde work with pulseaudio?
[05:44] <tweakedeh> Is it possable to get my contacts off of Kopete into kmail?
[05:44] <p_quarles> mefisto__: pulseaudio does not work with my computer
[05:45] <p_quarles> mefisto__: beyond that, I cannot say
[05:45] <walter> This might be a common question already but why does firefox look so bad in kubuntu?
[05:45] <mefisto__> p_quarles: not even under gnome?
[05:45] <p_quarles> mefisto__: nope
[05:45] <mefisto__> ok thanks p_quarles
[05:46] <Frederick> folks how do I add console to the menu bar in the new kde?
[05:46] <p_quarles> walter: because XUL tries to mimic Qt4 and does a spectacularly bad job of it
[05:46] <mefisto__> p_quarles: and you installed kubuntu first, then installed ubuntu-desktop?
[05:46] <p_quarles> mefisto__: other way aroudn
[05:46] <joh6nn> walter: short answer: no good reason.  you may need to install a package called gtk-qt-engine
[05:46] <walter> p_quaries: any fixes out there?
[05:47] <tweakedeh> Guessing no one want to help?
[05:47] <p_quarles> walter: not that I'm aware of
[05:47] <p_quarles> tweakedeh: Kontact should share Kopete's contacts by default
[05:47] <walter> joh6nn: i'll try that now thanks.
[05:47] <p_quarles> tweakedeh: whatever you're experiencing, you need to give more details
[05:48] <mefisto__> walter: you might want to try this firefox theme to make it look a little more like kde: http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/
[05:48] <joh6nn> walter: after you install it, a new option shows up in System Settings > Appearance
[05:49] <tweakedeh> I'm using kmail with gmail and I have no contacts in my contact list, I want to take all my contacts off of kopete or gmail and put them in to kmail so I dont have to type them all the time.
[05:50] <walter> joh6nn: I installed it and don't see any new options in Sytem Setting > Appearance
[05:50] <Cobain> does anyone know how to get the "GTK Styles and Fonts" tab in the appearance settings to appear?
[05:51] <Cobain> ive installed gtk-qt-engine-kde4 and i still dont see it
[05:51] <joh6nn> heh.  Cobain, i'm just talking to walter about that.
[05:51] <joh6nn> walter: i don't know if you need to restart KDE or not for it to show up.  Cobain, have you already restarted KDE, or no?
[05:51] <Cobain> good so its not me
[05:51] <Cobain> ive restarted kde
[05:51] <joh6nn> ok, so clearly that's not it
[05:52] <pirky> hey there gwing my friends linux
[05:52] <walter> joh6nn: I have Styles, Colors, Icons, Fonts, Windows, Splash Screen, Emoticons
[05:52] <Cobain> walter, are you using project neon?
[05:53] <walter> joh6nn: gtk-qt-engine was allready installed when wanted to install it
[05:53] <joh6nn> walter: hmm.  that's weird
[05:53] <walter> Cobain: Yes I think so... but lett me make sure...
[05:54] <Cobain> im wondering if its just this nightly build
[05:54] <walter> Cobain: yes I am...
[05:54] <Cobain> joh6nn, any idea if there is a way to manually set it?
[05:55] <joh6nn> no, i don't.  sorry.  and i'm just now noticing how late is it.
[05:55] <walter> joh6nn: Do you know where exactly this option should appear?
[05:56] <joh6nn> walter: yeah, you should get a whole new section in Appearance, called GTK Styles and Fonts, 2nd from the bottom.  it's supposed to appear as soon as the package is installed, as far as i know.
[05:56] <joh6nn> but i need to get to bed.  sorry guys.
[05:57] <walter> Cobain: I'll try purging and reinstalling...
[05:59] <Cobain> walter, http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/06/project-neon-kde-nightly-builds.html
[05:59] <Cobain> read the comment by apachelogger
[06:04] <walter> No, luck... i'll try that theme the, thanx
[06:06] <walter> mafisto__: thanks that theme looks great.
[06:12] <walter> The other problem that I picked up on kubuntu is that it will loose the "desktop effects" setting after a couple of reboots... anyone know what up with that?
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> walter: I have the same issue
[06:13] <walter> Admiral: desktop-effects issue or Firefox issue?
[06:14] <toki_> ok guys so my computer is not reconizing my monitor (polaroid 32" 720p tv) any suggestions
[06:20] <toki_> ok guys so my computer is not reconizing my monitor (polaroid 32" 720p tv) any suggestions.
[06:22] <jammen33> .
[06:22] <jammen33> ..
[06:45] <elliott> is there any way to temporarily prevent knetworkmanager from automatically creating connections?
[06:46] <elliott> from the command line
[06:46] <dario> hello all
[06:46] <caustin> hello dario
[06:46] <dario> in spanish?
[06:46] <dario> sorry im new
[06:47] <p_quarles> !es | dario
[06:47] <genii> dario: Spanish channel is #kubuntu-es    and you can also try #ubuntu-es
[06:47] <genii> p_quarles: Heh
[06:47] <caustin> hola dario
[06:48] <dario> hola caustin
[06:52] <elliott> is there a way to put knetworkmanager in offline mode from the command line?
[07:12] <mefisto__> the person who couldn't find "gtk styles and fonts" are you still here?
[07:27]  * chalcedony smiles
[07:27] <chalcedony> I've forgotten KDE setting up, been so long ... where do you change the colour and outline of the desktop text under the icons? there is a foreground and background, normally white on black
[07:45] <caustin> Anyone have problems with kopete and WLM accounts after upgrading to 4.2rc1 ?
[07:57] <yao_ziyuan> how do i disable routine disk check?
[08:13] <alexandroos> hello I'm going to install kubuntu 8.04 lts from the internet with the minimal cd, does it come with kde 4.1.4?
[08:20] <mark-> hmm
[08:21] <mark-> I have a quick question, I tried adding the widget bouncing ball, and it doesn't seem to be working correctly, but I do believe it is running and sucking out my cpu.
[08:21] <mark-> any way to kill individual widgets?
[08:26] <mark-> what is with the right most side of the screen not controlling the scroll bar.
[08:28] <mark-> 271 people 0 responses
[08:28] <mark-> fantastic
[08:32] <gabor__> Why is Kubuntu:Intrped sending every second UDP packets on port 137???
[08:41] <ryan-c> I just upgraded my motherboard and my sound doesn't work..
[08:41] <ryan-c> Can anyone hlep me figure out what's wrong?  It's not muted, the volume is okay, and it's plugged int
[08:45] <Eutychus> i am installing kubuntu on a dell laptop with vista and the drive is already partitioned and the partition unallocated.  how do i manually prepare the unallocated partition for kubuntu?
[08:54] <Eutychus> hello?
[08:57] <jussi01> Eutychus: can we help?
[08:58] <gabor__> hello
[08:58] <romain_> yes ...
[08:58] <romain_> Hi first !
[08:58] <Eutychus> i am at the prepare partitions part. what do i do next.
[08:59] <romain_> I've been reading I'd have to come here to get some help about KDE4.2 ?
[08:59] <||arifaX> Hi, my wireless card works perfect with STA drivers (Broadcom in HP 6735b notebook) if I have enabled it before booting Kubuntu. When already booted and enabling it via its button I cannot get it running. I think its missing some modules. Do you know how to load the modules manually or an other way to fix it when already booted?
[08:59] <romain_> cmd is "modprobe module"
[09:00] <chalcedony> in KDE - where do you change the colour and outline of the desktop text under the icons? there is a foreground and background, normally white on black
[09:00] <||arifaX> romain_: but how to find out which I should load or check for?
[09:01] <romain_> arifax : look...boot your pc with broadcom then type lsmod in your konsole...so as to see about the loaded modules...
[09:01] <romain_> by this way...u'll know what module u have to lad manually then...
[09:02] <||arifaX> romain_: when I do    lsmod | grep wl it shows       wl,ieee80211_crypt,ieee80211_crypt_tkip   will that be the modules I have to load manually next time?
[09:02] <romain_> chalceny : you were talking to me ?
[09:03] <Eutychus> i am installing kubuntu on a dell laptop with vista and the drive is already partitioned and the partition unallocated. how do i manually prepare the unallocated partition for kubuntu?
[09:03] <romain_> arifax...I don't know...what I know is that 802.11 crytp need to be loaded but I know that I have for example ipw2200 qui est le drivers de ma carte intel...
[09:05] <romain_>  lsmod | grep ieee
[09:05] <romain_> ieee80211_crypt_wep    11776  1
[09:05] <romain_> ieee80211              38088  1 ipw2200
[09:05] <romain_> ieee80211_crypt        13572  2 ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211
[09:06] <romain_> arifax  : Have a look to my grep result of lsmod
[09:06] <romain_> Does someone could help me with my anticipating KDE4.2 desktop ??? need a fix...impossible to set a plasmoid now !!!
[09:07] <||arifaX> romain_: I think I got it. I did a small script that I will execute next time and check if it help. I will modprobe wl, then crypt and then another like they depend on each other and will then restart networking. Thanks for your help!
[09:07] <romain_> aifax : perfect...strange it doesn't autoload in startup !
[09:08] <chalcedony> KDE - where do you change the colour and outline of the desktop text under the icons?
[09:11] <elliott> is there a way to put knetworkmanager in offline mode from the command line?
[09:17] <Guest3601> ciao a tutti
[09:18] <Eutychus> i am installing kubuntu on a dell laptop with vista and the drive is already partitioned and the partition unallocated. how do i manually prepare the unallocated partition?
[09:20] <czr_> silly question: in hardy, how do I disable DPMS/screensaver for ever starting? (I haven't configured the kde screensaver to start after any period of time)
[09:31] <emonkey-t> Where does I find the printerconfiguration in KDE 4.2RC?
[09:36] <Eutychus> is 20gig enough disk space for kubuntu 8.10 that will be used for a high school student?
[09:37] <RurouniJones> Hell yes
[09:37] <RurouniJones> unless they are doing video work or downloading copious amounts of pirated material or playing games
[09:38] <Eutychus> they will be doing some audio visual, but not much.
[09:39] <Eutychus> RurouniJones: thanx
[09:53] <elliott> is there a way to put knetworkmanager in offline mode from the command line?
[10:01] <christophe> hi there
[10:01] <christophe> i need help plz!! :(
[10:02] <christophe> i'm quite new to ubuntu and donot see where is WINE!!!!! help :(
[10:04] <Jones-K> Any idea how to make a shortcut to application only work when usb drive is mounted to /media/Elements ?
[10:05] <Jones-K> I tried to make shortcut on the usb drive and shortcut to that on the kde panel but didn't work
[10:05] <Jones-K> is there a way to make a shortcut to script
[10:09] <Salze> Jones-K: You could make a shortcut to a bash script that checks for some file on the usb drive and only then starts the program.
[10:11] <Jones-K> yes that could be better way
[10:12] <Eutychus> can i create a home partition later instead of at installation?
[10:12] <Jones-K> i'm not very good at languages but could it be something with file()
[10:12] <Jones-K> oh i found an example
[10:13] <Jones-K> hmm anywhere deb avaible for kedit in ibex?
[10:20] <oscurochu> I have installed guarddog, and now I can't connect to the internet (unless I disable it)!!!
[10:21] <oscurochu> Is there anybody out there who can help me configure guarddog?
[10:23] <xp-killer> how can i do a server something like media player on vista so my cuz can surf tru my videos?
[10:24] <oscurochu> xp-killer, is your cuz on the same network as you?
[10:24] <xp-killer> oscurochu: same wifi yes
[10:25] <oscurochu> xp-killer, try setting up file sharing.
[10:25] <oscurochu> xp-killer, right click on the my computer icon and i believe it should be in there somewhere
[10:26] <xp-killer> im on linux
[10:27] <Eutychus> what happens if i do not install the boot loader?
[10:27] <oscurochu> i thought you said xp
[10:28] <oscurochu> vista
[10:28] <oscurochu> sorry i've been up all night trying to get my pc working the way i want it, and no luck for me. :(
[10:28] <oscurochu> if you do not install the boot loader, you cannot boot into linux
[10:29] <xp-killer> oscurochu:  i said something like media player on vista
[10:30] <oscurochu> im not sure how vista works, but xp has a run dialog. just go into that and type "//your-pc-name" (without the quotes)
[10:30] <xp-killer> ive been up all night to trying to level up :ç
[10:30] <oscurochu> i dont exactly know what you mean so sorry if i am no help
[10:31] <xp-killer> oscurochu:  whats smb and nfs for the server they say i must install
[10:31] <Eutychus> that is what i thought. i am real nervous. last time i tried to install kubuntu on vista i goofed really badly.
[10:32] <oscurochu> sudo apt-get install samba
[10:32] <Eutychus> bbl.
[10:46] <elev> hey
[10:46] <elev> kafan e detta=
[10:46] <elev> ?
[10:47] <PSiL0> !idle
[10:55] <xp-killer> i must use vnc on xp to get on linux?
[10:55] <xp-killer> to see my videos?
[10:56] <Knysliux001> vnc is not very good for videos
[10:56] <Knysliux001> framerate will be too low
[10:56] <xp-killer> can twonkey media work on linux?
[11:01] <xp-killer> Knysliux001: how to install an .sh file?
[11:02] <xp-killer> twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh
[11:02] <Knysliux001> run filename.sh
[11:03] <Knysliux001> i mean thats what you need to type in konsole
[11:05] <elev> hello
[11:05] <elev> some 1 know how i make all computers shutdown?
[11:05] <xp-killer> Knysliux001:  i have to type run?
[11:06] <elev> can some1 sayme some funny console commands?
[11:07] <elev> Can some1 fucking answer me?
[11:08] <elev> omg
[11:08] <kevku> xp-killer: sh twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh
[11:11] <xp-killer> kevku: it say it cant oprnd it
[11:11] <kevku> what?
[11:11] <faileas> xp-killer: try sudo ./foo.sh
[11:12] <xp-killer> faileas: i have to type sudo ./foo.sh in the console self?
[11:15] <jaws2_> is there any way to change the look of Amarok 2 ?
[11:19] <Bauldrick> xp-killer: why do you want twonky?
[11:20] <xp-killer> Bauldrick: i want a server so my ps3 can see my videos and my sis can see my videos from her laptop vista
[11:21] <dwidmann> xp-killer: hmm, I think mediatomb can do that, was going to try it anyway
[11:22] <xp-killer> dwidmann: mediatombs come in adept manager?
[11:22] <dwidmann> xp-killer: think so
[11:23] <dwidmann> yep, it's there
[11:23] <xp-killer> dwidmann: it works like a server so my ps3 can see my linux and my laptop xp also?
[11:24] <xp-killer> see as in read my multimedia
[11:24] <dwidmann> xp-killer: think so
[11:24] <dwidmann> I've not tried it yet (don't have my ps3 hooked up to my router ... need to get myself a long enough cable to do it)
[11:25] <dwidmann> anyhow, mediatomb looked pretty trivial to setup
[11:27] <xp-killer> dwidmann: your router dont do wifi?
[11:27] <xp-killer> dwidmann: u need a cable?
[11:27] <xp-killer> dwidmann: your confusing with 360
[11:30] <dwidmann> xp-killer: don't think my ps3 does wifi :s
[11:31] <xp-killer> dwidmann: cool my ps3 can see mediatomb all i have to do now is creat folders to where my stuff are
[11:31] <xp-killer> dwidmann: all ps3's has wifi
[11:32] <dwidmann> really?
[11:32] <xp-killer> dwidmann: yes :s how long u had your ps3?
[11:33] <xp-killer> dwidmann: only the xbox 360 dont have wifi
[11:33] <dwidmann> quite some time, it's one of the first gen ones, 60gb
[11:34] <dwidmann> be right back then, going to look into this
[11:34] <xp-killer> dwidmann: well i have the 1st ps3 80 g ps2 compat it has wifi and can be use as a router also
[11:39] <dwidmann> wait, wait, I found it on my own, I'd just never really looked for it (my internet connnection is pretty terrible so it wasn't a priority)
[11:40] <dwidmann> xp-killer: thanks for the heads up
[11:43] <rudolf> ivh got a question. iam trying to change the keyrepeatitionspeed. i changed something, but if i press the left arrow the cursors moves faster then with the right arrow. can someone helps me?
[11:45] <afeijo> I need to download over 50k files thru wget, but it stops before finish
[11:46] <xp-killer> rudolf: put your keyboard mouse back to default in your settings
[11:46] <afeijo> I'm using this params to wget: -r -nc -b -q -x -o getall.log
[11:46] <xp-killer> afeijo: try kget
[11:47] <afeijo> xp-killer: I cant, it is in a shell over my host
[11:48] <freddy__> wget -c works fine for me all the time...
[11:48] <afeijo> freddy__: did you used it to a massive amount of files in subdirs?
[11:49] <freddy__> no, usually since large files
[11:49] <freddy__> large single files*
[11:49] <afeijo> damn, mine isnt saving the log :(
[11:55] <weirdgoo> gtk apps stopped using my kde4 colors
[11:55] <weirdgoo> any idea why?
[11:57] <wesley_> whats the best way to install java ?
[12:28] <Dr_willis> wesley_,  i just isntall the kubuntu-restricted-extras package and it grabs java
[12:30] <wesley_> java still doesnt seem to work
[12:30] <Dr_willis> clarify 'dosent work'
[12:30] <Dr_willis> java -version to see wht java ya got installed if any
[12:37] <xp-killer> dwidmann: ps3's can search for wifi and when its off u can conect to the net from your laptop to the ps3
[12:37] <xp-killer> dwidmann: if i can conect wifi then u have an fake ps3 or your wifi card stop working
[12:39] <noir_lord> X11 on Kubuntu 8.10 feels very sluggish using an Nvidia 7600GT (AGP), anyone else had any issues with nvidia hardware?
[12:41] <Dr_willis> i find kde 4 to be sluggish
[12:41] <Tm_T> noir_lord: what driver version?
[12:41] <noir_lord> 177
[12:41] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: it's not sluggish here (:
[12:41] <Tm_T> noir_lord: try to upgrade to 180
[12:41] <Dr_willis> it is in my 8800gtsxxx
[12:41] <Dr_willis> it seemed enabling the effects actuallyu sped it up :)
[12:41] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: 6600GT here :-P
[12:42] <Dr_willis> then again.. im used to 'jwm' about as minimal a window manager as one can get.
[12:42] <Tm_T> so it's not about graphics powers itself
[12:42] <noir_lord> the effect is weird, glxgears (which I know is hardly a good benchmark tool but useful to test acceleration is working) reports ~9000fps (which is about normal for an old 7600) but the desktop is just sluggish
[12:44] <Tm_T> noir_lord: those use totally different technology (:
[12:45] <noir_lord> Tm_T, indeed,  to install 180 will I need to go outside the package management system and run the install manually? (I have no problem with doing that if I need to, I come from Slackware)
[12:45] <Tm_T> noir_lord: no, it's in intrepid-updates
[12:46] <noir_lord> Tm_T, thanks :)
[12:46] <Tm_T> !find nvidia-glx-180
[12:46] <Tm_T> !info nvidia-glx-180
[12:47] <noir_lord> thanks
[12:50] <noir_lord> right, I will give 180 a try, thanks for the assistance
[12:51] <mefisto__>  the artist tab in my context browser doesn't show the artist's wikipedia page. just a list of other languages. the button that opens the page in external browser works however.
[12:52] <mefisto__> amarok, that is
[12:57] <vikku> i changed my video preferences in mplayer to xv but its still giving me the famous vo error
[12:58] <noir_lord> nvidia-glx-180 has helped, scrolling in windows is now smooth again but it still uses a large amount of CPU time (maxing out a core) for window resize and such
[13:00] <zicada> so, ive disabled screensaver, and turned off powersaving, running intrepid, kde4.2rc
[13:00] <zicada> still, the screen blanks after a while
[13:00] <zicada> such as in the middle of watching a youtube vid etc
[13:00] <zicada> what else is there to turn off
[13:00] <zicada> i want my damn screen to be on 24/7 :D
[13:05] <noir_lord> hugs Tm_T (in a purely platonic way)
[13:05] <Tm_T> noir_lord: works better?
[13:05] <noir_lord> nvidia-glx-180 and disabling then reenabling kwin compositing seems to have sorted it out
[13:05] <Tm_T> great
[13:05] <noir_lord> windows resize smoothly and dont max out the cpu
[13:07] <noir_lord> not a big fan of the default compositing effects but they can at least me switched off (never understood why people want menus to fade in and out)
[13:07] <Tm_T> noir_lord: heh, to me expose and friends are useful effects
[13:08] <noir_lord> Tm_T, I prefer my desktop to be "snappy" I dont want eye candy I want things to be as quick as possible, eye candy has never appealed to me
[13:08] <Tm_T> noir_lord: aye, same here
[13:08] <Tm_T> noir_lord: also you can control animation speed with Kwin
[13:09] <noir_lord> Ive always liked xfce but the application set I use on linux is primarily orientated around Qt/KDE apps and for that KDE is the logical choice
[13:10] <Tm_T> noir_lord: btw if you're interested, we have #kubuntu-offtopic channel, welcome (:
[13:11] <noir_lord> heh, thats the nicest "shut up your off topic message" Ive ever seen, thanks for the help
[13:11] <Tm_T> brrrh
[13:11] <Tm_T> it wasn't that, oh well
[13:14] <tictric> what experiences do exist yet with KDE4.2-beta? upgrading works fine in intrepid?
[13:14] <Tm_T> tictric: yes
[13:14] <Dr_Willis_AAO> it works
[13:15] <Tm_T> tictric: and final release is coming in a week if all is ok
[13:15] <mefisto__>  the artist tab in my context browser doesn't show the artist's wikipedia page. just a list of other languages. like this: http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=c1d619506ba964803ceebf1cd43f94f1&/topic,16299.0.html
[13:16] <mefisto__> could someone here confirm that the artist tab is (not) working in amarok?
[13:17] <tictric> how about kdepim and akonadi? Do resources get converted automatically?
[13:18] <blip-> hi all, i've got a really strange problem on KDE3, you know how the main panel has an option to have "panel hiding" buttons on the left side and right side of the bar... the one on the left side correctly hides the panel (with animation) when clicked, but the one on the right has no effect at all... what could be causing this ?   thanks
[13:18] <blip-> Kubuntu 8.04
[13:23] <mefisto__> blip-: do you have anything unusual next to the right hide button?
[13:35] <marek_>  hi, i have a problem with my wifi card, it doesnt connect to networks anymore, please help me
[13:38] <xp-killer> anyone know how to use media tomb server??
[13:39] <xp-killer> i cant seem to put the directory HOME in it
[13:44] <Bauldrick> xp-killer: doesn't it have a web interface or something ? :49152
[13:48] <xp-killer> Bauldrick:  yea but now i want to add my home folder witch they say it does look for by default but im not seing nothing but some folder but database/PC
[13:52] <francisc1701> hi! is there a program like "easy cd-da extractor" in kubuntu? I need an audio file format converter
[13:52] <xp-killer> anyone know how to use media tomb server??
[13:53] <xp-killer> i cant seem to put the directory HOME in it
[13:53] <xp-killer> francisc1701:  try typin converter in adept
[13:55] <francisc1701> xp-killer: I did. I was hoping someone could give me a package name, 'cause the list I get with "converter" is quite long
[13:59] <Dr_Willis_AAO> apt-cache search converter | grep pattern
[14:01] <francisc1701> Dr_Willis_AAO: thanks, but I'm nearly done with the list in adept
[14:02] <Dr_Willis_AAO> uʍop ǝpısdn pǝuɹnʇ llɐ ʇǝƃ ı sǝɯıʇǝɯos
[14:02] <Dr_Willis_AAO> :)
[14:05] <francisc1701> who'd've thought - I can read upside down!
[14:14] <faileas> lol
[14:14]  * faileas is dyslexic. reading upaide down is easy
[14:17]  * Dr_Willis_AAO is cixelsyd
[14:21] <faileas> ... i can read that
[14:21] <faileas> its annoying ;p
[14:23] <cE_cHubBy> Haaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiii
[14:29] <thebosch> #ubuntu-nl
[14:35] <JackWinter> anyone know how i can stop kde from auto opening my program when i start a new shell with startx -- :1
[14:36] <JackWinter> and another question has anyone managed to get sound running in vmplayer on kubuntu 8.04 ?
[14:37] <lab> is there a small system monitor ? like ksysguard, but small and with network statistics
[14:37] <man> hhaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[14:39] <JohnFlux> lab: some people have made various plasmoids using the ksysguard data engine
[14:40] <lab> JohnFlux: yes, but installing these plasmoids is a real INFERNO on this release of kubuntu
[14:40] <JohnFlux> lab: is that good or bad?
[14:42] <lab> JohnFlux: bad
[14:42] <JohnFlux> lab: I'm not really sure what you want.  you want an application or a plasmoid?
[14:43] <JohnFlux> lab: you could try gkrellm
[14:43] <JohnFlux> or try kde4.2 ?
[14:44] <JackWinter> lab: i kinda like gkrellm, but of course it's gnome :)  show a lot less than ksysguard, but gives my cpu usage, temps, hdd and nic usage etc. check this out: http://stashbox.org/367911/snapshot20.png
[14:47] <lab> JackWinter: good, this is what I'm searching for. thanks
[14:48] <JackWinter> you'll also have to install lmsensors or some such
[14:49] <khakane> http://www.bigafro.org/dark.png -- could someone help me fix this font issue?
[14:55] <lab> ok. it's time to upgrade to kde4.2 --- is there a how to for that ?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis_AAO> see the topic? :)
[15:00] <khakane> guess no one has any ideas on this font issue?
[15:00] <lab> thnks Dr_Willis_AAO :-)
[15:00] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[15:01] <doktoreas> kdelibs5 4:4.1.96 is the rc of kde 4.2 ?
[15:02] <JontheEchidna> doktoreas: yes
[15:02] <doktoreas> JontheEchidna, thx mate
[15:03] <JontheEchidna> no problem
[15:03] <Dr_Willis_AAO> i will never understand version 3ing
[15:03] <Dr_Willis_AAO> #ing :)
[15:15]  * ScottK-laptop waves to a|wen (testing a new quassel snapshot).
[15:19] <khakane> i have 2 monitors, both desktops are in folder view, main screen i can switch back and forth to desktop view, 2nd monitor i cannot
[15:22] <khakane> now if my icons didnt show up on both screens
[15:26] <nlbs> Hi! Guys
[15:27] <nlbs> Can anybody Please take a Look at this ?
[15:27] <nlbs> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6583039#post6583039
[15:29] <nlbs> Plese help me out I am stuck I cant use my external hard disk
[15:29] <nlbs> and This is urgent
[15:29] <yoritomo> hello,
[15:29] <nlbs> Hi!
[15:30] <yoritomo> how to pass on sudo when browsing in dolphin , is it any shortkey to do that ?
[15:30] <nlbs> Did you mean be a root in Dolphin ?
[15:30] <mani_> can anybody tell me how to play mp3 in kubuntu it says mp3 support not install
[15:30] <yoritomo> kde of course
[15:31] <yoritomo> mani_ install medibuntu and ff codecs
[15:31] <yoritomo> mp3 is not included in the synaptics of ubuntu due to copyrights
[15:31] <nlbs> Can anybody Please take a Look at this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6583039#post6583039
[15:31] <mani_> ok
[15:32] <nlbs> amarok Installs it automatically if net is up
[15:32] <yoritomo> just type medibuntu in google
[15:32] <yoritomo> you gonna find it
[15:38] <nlbs> Can anybody Please take a Look at this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6583039#post6583039
[15:39] <marius__> hello ppl, how can I install apache2, mysql5 and php5 from konsole?
[15:40] <nlbs> sudo apt-get install php apache mysql
[15:40] <nlbs> first check by
[15:40] <nlbs> sudo apt-cache search php
[15:40] <nlbs> sudo apt-cache search apache
[15:40] <nlbs> sudo apt-cache search mysql
[15:42] <astromme> nlbs: "sudo chown -R neel /path/to/drive"
[15:42] <astromme> However
[15:42] <astromme> if you want to have th nlbs username and plasma breaks
[15:43] <astromme> remove ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* and you should be fine
[15:43] <nlbs> Now I dont have the nlbs User
[15:43] <nlbs> I've used userdel on it
[15:43] <astromme> nlbs: if your plasma breaks you should still be able to get a terminal up after you log in by doing alt-f2 and then entering konsole
[15:43] <nlbs> Now My username is neel
[15:43] <astromme> nlbs: Good, so do the chown command above
[15:44] <nlbs> That was teh first time I saw Plasma so I had no other way that get panicked
[15:44] <astromme> What's happening is your neel user id is 1001 while your nlbs was 1000. So, things are still owned by 1000 and you need to change them to 1001
[15:44] <nlbs> But Whenever I connect some External HDD with ext File system I cant chown it
[15:44] <astromme> are you sudoing?
[15:45] <marius__> I get: "You tried to open index.php, which is  a php file". any solution? is it possible that I there is no module for php?
[15:45] <marius__> in the browser
[15:45] <astromme> sudo chown -R neel /path/to/filesystem
[15:45] <nlbs> `neel` UID is 1002 and `neel` GID is 1000
[15:45] <nlbs> neel:x:1002:1000::/home/neel:/bin/bash
[15:45] <astromme> Yes, but the UID of the filesystem is 1000 and the GROUP is root. it goes user:group
[15:46] <astromme> change that to neel:x:1000:1000::/home/neel:/bin/bash and you're good to go
[15:46] <astromme> you don't need the chown then
[15:46] <nlbs> But Its not a Solution
[15:46] <marius__> any idea for me?
[15:46] <astromme> why not?
[15:46] <nlbs> I cant chown it everytime I connect
[15:46] <nlbs> I cant chown it everytime I connect
[15:46] <astromme> then change your /etc/password
[15:46] <nlbs> what Change ?
[15:46] <astromme>  s/password/passwd
[15:47] <astromme> see my above comment. change youor UID to 1000
[15:47] <nlbs> I tried but If I do that kde fails to Start
[15:47] <astromme> nlbs: yes because your home directory is still on UID 1002
[15:47] <astromme> so you need to chmod something
[15:48] <astromme> you can either do it to /home or to /media/mydrive
[15:48] <techbw> hi all
[15:48] <nlbs> Thanks
[15:48] <nlbs> You got teh point
[15:48] <nlbs> the**
[15:48] <astromme> techbw: hi
[15:48] <nlbs> Is there any other possibility of errors ?
[15:48] <astromme> nlbs: only if you chown'd something outside of your /home
[15:49] <nlbs> There is nothing like taht
[15:49] <techbw> what program can I use to make a full backup of my partitions, have everything the way I like and I want to save it, so that while playing I don't mess things up
[15:49] <techbw> I just want to learn without messing things up
[15:49] <nlbs> Ok I'll give it a try
 I donno such a software but I strongly believe that such software exists
[15:50] <nlbs> however I would do something like this
[15:50] <nlbs> dd if=/dev/sdaN of=sdaN.bak
[15:50] <techbw> I used to use ghost on windows, I have downloaded ghost4linux, but it does not look simple as ghost for windows
[15:50] <nlbs> and store sdaN.bak as backup Files
[15:50] <dueyfinster> Anyone have any recommendations for (all keys usueable) multi-media keyboard and mouse combo?
[15:50] <nlbs> and do the same on all drives
[15:51] <techbw> I have read alot about dd but I am not confident that my knowlege to restore etc...would be sufficient
[15:51] <nlbs> and latter dd if=sdaN.bak of=/dev/sdaN
[15:51] <astromme> techbw: the dd *should* work however if you're screwing with partitions be careful
[15:51] <astromme> if you change /etc/fstab it's better to copy the whole drive with if=/dev/sda
[15:51] <techbw> I need somthing that can be done via live cd, or should I ask would apt2cd backup everything that I have installed, and configured
[15:51] <astromme> err, not fstab
[15:52] <astromme> with "sudo fdisk" if you do anything to your partitions
[15:52] <nlbs> Ya astromme is right it would be even easy too just copy the whole hard disk
[15:52] <nlbs> you dont even need to reinstall your OS
[15:52] <nlbs> even your mbr is backed Up
[15:53] <techbw> i would need to re-install grub wouldn't I
[15:53] <techbw> if it really goes wrong
[15:53] <astromme> techbw: not if you dd the entire drive
[15:53] <astromme> if you dd a single partition, yes, you would
[15:54] <astromme> but /dev/sda includes the MBR
[15:54] <techbw> so dd, basically is a ghost like program...copying the entire disk to a single file?
[15:54] <khakane> not really but sure
[15:54] <astromme> dd is a blockwise copy
[15:54] <nlbs> dd is a programm that does low level read/write
[15:54] <nlbs> and yes You can view your backups without restoring it from a live Disk
[15:54] <nlbs> just do
[15:55] <techbw> but the ending file would be the same size as the hard drive, not true, I don't want to backup free space ;-)
[15:55] <nlbs> mount -o loop /tmp/mountPoint /path/to/sdaN.bak
[15:55] <nlbs> Hey I forgot to ask one thing
[15:56] <techbw> how does one send a message like astrome sent me, showing my name: and message in red
[15:56] <nlbs> If I change my UID to 1000 then how would I chmod $HOME ?? chown 1000 $HOME ??
[15:56] <nlbs> am I right ?
[15:57] <wesley_> how do i find out what for chipset my wlan0 usb uses ?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[15:57] <wesley_> it using a ralink, that what i get from the site, but i need to know more precise
[15:57] <wesley_> it working under linux
[15:58] <wesley_> And i wanna know how its called
[15:58] <wesley_> lspci
[15:58] <techbw> wesley:  lspci
[15:58] <techbw> you should see chipset for your wireles
[15:58] <techbw> s
[15:58] <BluesKaj> wesley_ , lspci | grep Ethernet
[15:58] <wesley_> !lspci
[15:59] <wesley_> lol getting smarter everday i remeber the command
[15:59] <wesley_> but with that i only see the lan, the wlan0 doesnt show, but works
[16:00] <nlbs> after I changed my UID from 1002 to 1000 I issued sudo chown 1000 -R $HOME
[16:00] <nlbs> Oh! I got
[16:00] <techbw> ~dd
[16:00] <techbw> !dd
[16:01] <techbw> !partimage
[16:01] <nlbs> google dd
[16:01] <nlbs> it will take less than 30 mins to learn dd
[16:01] <BluesKaj> !wifi | wesley_
[16:01] <wesley_> http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/RTUSB D70-1.1.3.0 D71W-1.1.7.0 UI-1.3.0.0_2006_11_10.dmg  thats links the hardware site to, so its one of ralink
[16:01] <nlbs> Its very interesting
[16:01] <marius> can anyone help me with my apache?
[16:01] <marius> I can't open php's in browser
[16:01] <marius> and when I type "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[16:01] <marius> I get
[16:01] <wesley_> http://www.peakhardware.com/DB/Products/Networking/Network Adaptors/USB 2.0 Adaptors/PEAKII Mini Wireless LAN Adapter/PEAK II WUG2670 LnxDrv2400_070123.tar.gz for Linux, but that works
[16:02] <Guest59050> :
[16:02] <Guest59050> * Starting web server apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name,using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[16:02] <Guest59050> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[16:02] <Guest59050> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[16:02] <Guest59050> Unable to open logs
[16:02] <Guest59050>                                                                          [fail]
[16:02] <Guest59050> what's that?
[16:02] <Guest59050> help please
[16:04] <techbw> k now I need to know something, restoring the dd file back to hard disk, I could boot from live cd then dd back to disk like so dd if=/path/to/image of=/dev/hdx
[16:04] <p_quarles> Guest59050: what command did you use to start Apache? also,
[16:05] <p_quarles> !paste | Guest59050
[16:05] <techbw> another question does dd work with any file system?  would it work with ntfs, fat32?
[16:06] <wesley_> The usb wlan I bought get detected without problems in Linux :)
[16:06] <p_quarles> techbw: dd copies bits, so its essentially agnostic about filesystem details or any other data
[16:09] <techbw> p_quarles, thanx, I get the idea, but would agnostic be the right word for this situation
[16:09] <techbw> had to look it up :-)
[16:10] <p_quarles> techbw: never a bad thing to improve your vocabulary
[16:10] <cuznt> unless your vocabulary is learning slack jawed yokel
[16:11] <techbw> thanks for the help guys, going to make a copy of drive now.
[16:11] <techbw> cheers
[16:12] <p_quarles> techbw: be very careful with dd; it can be destructive if used improperly
[16:14] <morgan> sera
[16:23] <jpedroza> I asked this in the nvidia channel, but I figure it wouldn't hurt in here as well. I chenged the quality settings in the nvidia-settings app and now when I log in I get a black screen and a mouse pointer. Anyone know how to reset back to defaults?
[16:25] <Guest95373> hey,any idea to help me solve the problem? I already have those packages installed, but I cannot open php files at localhost. html's I can open. so apache is working but can't open php's. what's wrong pls help me out
[16:25] <Guest95373> pls.pls
[16:25] <Guest95373> this is critical for me
[16:25] <Guest95373> :(
[16:27] <MaleXachi> Hello Again :-)
[16:27] <MaleXachi> 	
[16:28] <MaleXachi> Does anyone know if there is a Video Converter to Xvid movies to DVD movie to convert with subtitles for linux kubuntu? :-O
[16:32] <tobor> !wiki
[16:33] <johannes_> hi, is there an xfce channel?
[16:33] <tobor> yes
[16:33] <tobor> easy to find out too. just /j #xfce
[16:33] <johannes_> in xfce i got the problem that after a while the screen (after the screensaver started, it turns shady),but the shadyness does not go away anymre
[16:34] <johannes_> moving mouse doesnt help
[16:34] <johannes_> anybody any idea?
[16:34] <tobor>  /j #xfce
[16:37] <cuznt> nah you got to go johannes type /join #xfce
[16:37]  * cuznt personally uses a mouse trap
[16:41] <Raylz> hm, flash doesnt work in konqueror
[16:42] <Raylz> flashplugin-nonfree is installed and konqueror finds it
[16:45] <p_quarles> Raylz: it works, but only with a few sites; unfortunately, Firefox or Opera is needed for Flash
[16:46] <Raylz> p_quarles: how come?
[16:47] <p_quarles> Raylz: because the Flash plugin for Linux is poorly written
[16:48] <MaleXachi> Weet er iemand een video converter voor kubuntu?
[16:48] <MaleXachi> Anybody know a video converter for kubuntu?
[16:48] <Raylz> p_quarles: i know, on the one hand its not your fault, on the other hand it should work because of the users
[16:49] <Raylz> same with webdesign
[16:49] <Raylz> it should even work on IE
[16:53] <Raylz> so if its possible
[16:53] <Raylz> p_quarles: with firefox, it should work in konqueror
[16:53] <p_quarles> Raylz: thanks for your interesting opinions
[16:53] <p_quarles> Raylz: you are now on my ignore list
[16:54] <Raylz> retard
[16:54] <antonio_> ciao
[16:55] <antonio_> !list
[16:59] <henne> err
[16:59] <henne> is a linuxnewb allowed to post a question in this channel? :<
[16:59] <p_quarles> henne: yep; there might be better channels for non-Kubuntu questions, but go ahead and ask
[16:59] <henne> :>
[16:59] <p_quarles> !ask > henne
[17:00] <henne> kk
[17:01] <henne> !ask why cant i see my old windows files on C: ? i installed kubuntu 8.10 on c, and now i cant see my music etc which is on c ^^and no, i didnt erase them, in windows i can still use and see them
[17:01] <p_quarles> henne: the "!" at the beginning is for commanding the bot :)
[17:01] <henne> ... emberassing ^^
[17:01] <p_quarles> lol, no worries
[17:02] <p_quarles> henne: did you use the Windows based installer, or did you create a new partition for Kubuntu?
[17:04] <henne> used the one for windows, cause the earlier try in the bios didnt run, dunno why
[17:05] <henne> i even tried switchin off all other hdds except the new one i bought for linux ^
[17:09] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[17:09] <henne> hi
[17:09] <doktoreas> I am trying to configure akonadi to avoid some errors..it doesn't find a mysql server
[17:09] <doktoreas> in the setting it asks for mysql executable..which file is it?
[17:10] <p_quarles> doktoreas: probably /usr/bin/mysql - but try which mysql
[17:11] <doktoreas> p_quarles: ok I'll try with it
[17:13] <sKr> p_quarles no idea on my question? ^
[17:14] <hjuyttfrtter> ciao
[17:14] <p_quarles> sKr: not really, since I'm not familiar at all with Wubi
[17:14] <sKr> err, okay :> ty anyways
[17:19] <stanley_> hey can anyone help me connect and transfer my music to my ipod using amarok??
[17:21] <doktoreas> anyone has got a succesfully akonadi with no error :D ?
[17:22] <slow-motion> hi
[17:24] <MaleXachi> 	
[17:24] <MaleXachi> How to install tar.gz package? :-O
[17:30] <jpedroza> Good morning. I just ran an update for the Jaunty (development branch) and it removed the nvidia-glx-180 package. I restored that package with sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180, which proceeded to remove my X installation. Now when I try and remove the nvidia-glx-180 package, I get an error that it can't find usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
[17:32] <jpedroza> I am guessing it can't find it because it just removed it
[17:32] <jpedroza> I have tried installing xorg, but it tries to remove the nvidia driver as well.
[17:32] <jpedroza> And of course fails on that missing file error.
[17:34] <jpedroza> Anybody home?
[17:36] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: Are you around, by chance?
[17:39] <jpedroza> Is there a way to force a package to remove?
[17:39] <juanescobarsamur> register jces1984 juanescobarsamurio@gmail.com
[17:40] <dwidmann> jpedroza: if it can't find that file, make that file so it has something to delete :)
[17:44] <jpedroza> dwidmann: That worked! Now my only issue is why does an nvidia driver package remove xorg?
[17:49] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: You around?
[17:57] <zicada> guys, how come it autoloads the snd_hda_intel module even when i have it turned off in bios ?
[17:58] <zicada> where do i configure what modules not to autoload at boot ? not used to kubuntu/ubuntu in that regard
[18:00] <ubuntu> www,hotmIL.COM
[18:06] <raidenovich> salut guys, i have 2 directories on 2 pc´s, on directory 1  i want to backup all the data from directory 2 everytime i press a button or something like that... anyone got a solution, please?
[18:07] <ectospasm> raidenovich: look up the dirvish scripts
[18:08] <ectospasm> raidenovich: it uses rsync to backup directories, remotely if necessary
[18:08] <zicada> nm, found it
[18:09] <raidenovich> ectospasm: forgot to mention it, does it work with a samba folder?
[18:10] <ectospasm> raidenovich: samba is independent of dirvish.  It works on the underlying partition, so samba is irrelevent
[18:10] <raidenovich> ok, thank you, im gonna give it a shot
[18:12] <shay_> guys im having a problem: most of the configurations i make - main menu configs, desktop configs and even some system updates are not being saved, as if their folders are read only or somethin
[18:13] <rickey> how do you check what verison of kubuntu one has on there computers,where do you look???
[18:15] <fuser> hi
[18:15] <fuser> hi
[18:15] <dwidmann> rickey: lsb_release -a
[18:15] <bazhang> !version
[18:16] <fuser> /links
[18:16] <stanley_> guys please i really need someone;s help, my computer won;t even detect my ipod
[18:16] <stanley_> i need help getting music onto it...
[18:16] <fuser> hey i am new to irc, i just want to know, how to join different channels
[18:16] <rickey> ok i have 8.04 how do i get 8.10?
[18:17] <fuser> rickey, go to update
[18:18] <dwidmann> rickey: http://www.kubuntu.org/month/2008/10
[18:18] <rickey> ok i am in adeptmanger
[18:18] <fuser> and enarickey go to software sources and click the update tab
[18:19] <fuser> and in releasse upgrade check the normal releases
[18:19] <Jahmon> hi - I need some wifi help if anyone is around
[18:19] <fuser> rickey not update but software sources
[18:20] <rickey> softwhere scores is under what tab?
[18:20] <Jahmon> I install restricted extras last night via wifi, rebooted - and now my wifi doesnt work - its failing to come back up after i disabled it - cant find any wifi networks - yet i reboot to windows and network is there
[18:20] <fuser> application-settings, if you are in kde
[18:21] <Jahmon> is there any way to force my wifi to reinstall without internet access - i rely on wifi for net access - if it doesnt work im kind of screwed
[18:21] <Jahmon> !wifi
[18:22] <Jahmon> can anyone help me with wifi not working since i disabled it and re-enabled it
[18:22] <Jahmon> a bug maybe?
[18:23] <stanley_> can anyone hel me with my ipod woes...every program i use says it is not being recognized although it mounts
[18:24] <fuser> what programms any example
[18:24] <ytoox> hey, I am using an atheros card and the internet acts very strange when I use the wireless.
[18:24] <robin0800> Jahmon: this might be more useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[18:24] <ytoox> can anynone here help me figure out the problem?
[18:25] <Jahmon> robin0800 it doesnt help me much when i cant access it in kubuntu :*(
[18:26] <robin0800> Jahmon: how are you doing irc then
[18:27] <Jahmon> windows
[18:27] <Jahmon> gonna have to google and save
[18:27] <Jahmon> and reboot
[18:27] <Jahmon> and cry
[18:28] <Jahmon> its so weird it worked till i disabled it, then when i re-enabled it cant find any networks
[18:28] <Jahmon> and card is listed in ifconfig
[18:28] <Jahmon> gonna try reboot and set it manually
[18:28] <ytoox> could it be that the linux-backports package is installed for two kernel versions that affects the wireless internet?
[18:28] <Jahmon> thanks
[18:29] <Jahmon> is the linux-backports package part of the restricted extras?
[18:29] <Jahmon> caus that all ive installed
[18:29] <robin0800> Jahmon: you have tried internet and then knetworkmanager in the menu
[18:29] <Jahmon> yes robin0800
[18:29] <Jahmon> its an atheros card
[18:29] <Jahmon> netgear wg311t
[18:31] <Jahmon> gonna restart
[18:31] <Jahmon> and try manually
[18:31] <Jahmon> peace
[18:31] <stanley_> fuser: I have been trying to connect using amarok, banshee and gtkpod
[18:31] <Bauldrick> stanley_: what does your ipod show up as in /media
[18:31] <stanley_> media/disk bauldrick
[18:31] <xp-killer> anyone know how to use media tomb server??
[18:31] <xp-killer> i cant seem to put the directory HOME in it
[18:32] <raidenovich> that should be possible xp-killer
[18:32] <raidenovich> do other folders work?
[18:32] <xp-killer> raidenovich:  i seing the folder yes
[18:32] <ytoox> can anyone help me?
[18:33] <raidenovich> for which device are you using media tomb xp-killer
[18:33] <stanley_> when it connects it goes into disk mode, is that normal bauldrick??
[18:33] <xp-killer> raidenovich: but i want it to see my home folder
[18:33] <ytoox> these channels are useless
[18:33] <xp-killer> raidenovich: yea
[18:35] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: Are you around by chance?
[18:36] <xp-killer> raidenovich: im only seing 1 folder in media tomb"database"thats the onlything my ps3 can see,but now i want my ps3 to see my home folder how can i add home folder in media tomb?
[18:36] <raidenovich> u use media tomb for ps3?
[18:37] <raidenovich> there is a better program
[18:37] <raidenovich> based on java
[18:37] <raidenovich> interested?
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !ps3
[18:37] <xp-killer> raidenovich: im not just using it for my ps3 but also my sis laptop
[18:38] <xp-killer> raidenovich: tell me the name?
[18:38] <raidenovich> http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/downloads/list
[18:38] <raidenovich> download the linux file, extract it, make the ./pms.sh executable and run it
[18:40] <xp-killer> raidenovich:  i never go tru in my life to install them weird folders
[18:41] <turuburu> ih guys
[18:41] <turuburu> kde-guidance-powermanager does not show me cpu selector. maybe i disabled some serviecs?
[18:42] <wizardslovak> hello people
[18:42] <wizardslovak> how can i install mysql on kubuntu
[18:42] <wizardslovak> !myqsl
[18:42] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: sudo apt-get install mysql mysql-server
[18:43] <jpedroza> !mysql
[18:43] <raidenovich> how can i mount a samba network folder?
[18:43] <wizardslovak> i only need mysql and php
[18:43] <xp-killer> raidenovich:  how do i make the ./pms.sh and run it? i extract to hold folder already
[18:43] <raidenovich> sudo mount -t smbfs (smb://xxxxxxxxx) (mountpoint?)
[18:44] <jpedroza> raidenovich: you can use the mount command like this: mount -t cifs //ServerName/Share /mountpoint
[18:44] <jpedroza> raidenovich: cifs is the new fs type
[18:44] <raidenovich> thank you, is it then always mounted when i start the computer?
[18:44] <raidenovich> xp-killer:  sudo chmod 777 ./pms.sh
[18:45] <raidenovich> no withouth ./ sorry
[18:45] <raidenovich> then you run it with ./pms.sh
[18:46] <jpedroza> raidenovich: No, to mount on boot you need to modify /etc/fstab as root and add in those parameters. You will also want to add username and password params in fstab or it will prompt you for them on boot
[18:46] <xp-killer> raidenovich: in konsole i hav to typê " sudo chmod 777 ./pms.sh"?
[18:46] <raidenovich> jpedroza: also when i have guest = ok?
[18:46] <raidenovich> xp-killer:  you type in sudo chmod 777 PMS.sh in the folder where it is located
[18:46] <raidenovich> then you run it with ./PMS.sh
[18:47] <jpedroza> raidenovich: In that case, no.
[18:47] <wizardslovak> lol i am getting error " couldnt find package mysql"
[18:47] <raidenovich> okey i try mounting now
[18:49] <xp-killer> raidenovich: i dont understand
[18:50] <raidenovich> what part?
[18:50] <xp-killer> raidenovich: im only where to extract the folder thats it
[18:50] <xp-killer> to make creat dontunderstand
[18:50] <raidenovich> they are extracted, right?
[18:50] <xp-killer> yea
[18:51] <raidenovich> okay, just type in sudo chmod 777 PMS.sh to make the file executable
[18:51] <raidenovich> you have to be in the folder where the file is located
[18:51] <xp-killer> just open any console and write that?
[18:51] <raidenovich> yes, but  you have to be in the right folder
[18:53] <gstnet> hey, how to go about compiling kde 3 apps on intrepid ?
[18:53] <xp-killer> raidenovich:
[18:53] <xp-killer> xp-killer@linux:~$ sudo chmod 777 PMS.sh
[18:53] <xp-killer> chmod: cannot access `PMS.sh': No such file or directory
[18:53] <demarco> hey all
[18:53] <demarco> very impressed with ubuntu
[18:53] <raidenovich> ? are you in the right folder?
[18:54] <raidenovich> you extracted all your files in ~?
[18:54] <raidenovich> jpedroza:  i get an error
[18:54] <raidenovich> Mounting cifs URL not implemented yet. Attempt to mount 192.168.1.3/laptop
[18:54] <raidenovich> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: try using ./PMS.sh
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: is the filename capitalised like that
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> ?
[18:55] <raidenovich> no, ActionParsnip the file is not executeable yet
[18:55] <jpedroza> raidenovich: format is //ipadd/share
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: chmod +x ./PMS.h
[18:55] <raidenovich> it even doesnt exist ... i dont think he is in the right folder
[18:55] <jpedroza> raidenovich: the double whacks are required
[18:55] <xp-killer> :s
[18:55] <raidenovich> raiden@laptop:~$ sudo mount -t cifs smb://192.168.1.3/laptop /home/raiden/Server/
[18:56] <xp-killer> thats why i never got tru to install them .sh things
[18:56] <raidenovich> its very easy
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: make sure you are in the right folder first, 777 really is a bit overkill
[18:56] <xp-killer> i had never get how to do it
[18:56] <jpedroza> raidenovich: remove the smb: from that command
[18:56] <jpedroza> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.3/laptop /home/raiden/Server/
[18:56] <raidenovich> okay, done
[18:57] <raidenovich> lol, works
[18:57] <raidenovich> thank you :D
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you need to mark its a executable with +x
[18:57] <xp-killer> :s
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: then run it with ./<script name  here>
[18:57] <raidenovich> xp-killer:  did you extract it correctly?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: make sure you are in the same folder as the file
[18:57] <raidenovich> you have to browse to the folder where pms.sh is located
[18:57] <xp-killer> raidenovich: yes the folder is on my desktop
[18:58] <raidenovich> wait ill look in the package
[18:58] <raidenovich> then you have to browse there inthe terminal
[18:58] <raidenovich> cd Desktop/FOLDERNAME
[18:58] <xp-killer> how?
[18:59] <xp-killer> ok
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: ok we'll do this the spoonfeed way. Where is the file?
[18:59] <raidenovich> should be cd Desktop/pms-linux-1.03
[18:59] <xp-killer> raidenovich: yea just when enter the folder its there
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: ok the here is the entire command
[19:00] <raidenovich> or lets do it the other way
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> cd ~Desktop/pms-linux-1.03; chmod +x ./*.bin
[19:00] <raidenovich> just browse to that folder with dolphin
[19:00] <raidenovich> press F4
[19:00] <raidenovich> type in sudo chmod +x PMS.sh
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if you then run: ls
[19:00] <raidenovich> then ./PMS.sh
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you will see it show in green (executable)
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: then type: ./PMS.sh
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: like raidenovich says
[19:01] <raidenovich> jpedroza:  how can i edit the fstab?
[19:01] <xp-killer> raidenovich: f4 not doing nothing it just openning a tag in konvo
[19:02] <raidenovich> ? :S
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: my commnds do the whole thing for you
[19:02] <raidenovich> yeah, try that
[19:02] <xp-killer> raidenovich: u told me just press F4
[19:02] <roozbehonline> Hi all
[19:03] <raidenovich> well, that opens a terminal in the place where you are
[19:03] <roozbehonline> I have a problem !
[19:03] <jpedroza> raidenovich: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[19:03] <jpedroza> roozbehonline: sup?
[19:03] <roozbehonline> when i open adept package manager
[19:03] <raidenovich> yeah i got that one, but where do i add "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.3/laptop /home/raiden/Server/"
[19:04] <jpedroza> raidenovich: Just add a line that says //servernameorip/Share     Mountpoint     cifs      defaults   0,0
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> roozbehonline: any more info would be great
[19:05] <jpedroza> that is the format
[19:05] <raidenovich> is that case sensitive?
[19:06] <raidenovich> okay, thank you jpedroza, did it
[19:06] <wizardslovak> okk i installed mysql and php , how do i start mysql?
[19:06] <jpedroza> raidenovich: np
[19:06] <xp-killer> raidenovich:  ok i open the terminal where i am
[19:06] <wizardslovak> how do i configure?
[19:06] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: sudo service mysqld start
[19:07] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: To have it start at boot sudo chkconfig mysqld on
[19:07] <gstnet> are kde3 apps using kde3 kio slaves or kde4 kio slaves ?
[19:07] <raidenovich> you opened the terminal in the folder where PMS.sh is located?
[19:07] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: configure with mysqladmin
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> roozbehonline: wb, wassup with your adept?
[19:07] <xp-killer> raidenovich: xp-killer@linux:~/Desktop/pms-linux-1.03$ yea
[19:07] <raidenovich> okay,
[19:07] <wizardslovak> jpedroza: do you know any site where i can read about mysql on kubuntu?? i checked google but nothing helpfull
[19:07] <raidenovich> now type in
[19:07] <raidenovich> sudo chmod +x PMS.sh
[19:07] <jpedroza> gstnet: Some of the kio slaves are not functional under kde4
[19:08] <raidenovich> why is 777 overkill ActionParsnip
[19:08] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: mysql is pretty much the same on any POSIX platform, any tutorial should work
[19:08] <xp-killer> raidenovich: nothing happen after it ask me for me passw
[19:08] <raidenovich> yes, thats ok
[19:08] <gstnet> jpedroza: fish works fine in kde4 apps, but not in quanta (kde3) app. I am trying to figure out what needs to be fixed there
[19:08] <raidenovich> now
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> raidenovich: it gives rwx to everyone on the system
[19:08] <raidenovich> type in ./PMS.sh
[19:08] <raidenovich> well its just a plain program? : /
[19:08] <wizardslovak> only think i want is to make mysql server, php and use vbulletin
[19:09] <jpedroza> gstnet: Quanta needs to be fixed. The kioslaves for fish, sftp, etc are not available in KDE4
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> raidenovich: which isnt needed as it'll only be needed by the owner
[19:09] <jpedroza> gstnet: For now there is no fix, other than to use sshfs or regular ftp, both of which work
[19:09] <xp-killer> raidenovich: ok it open a big page ps3 media
[19:09] <raidenovich> ;)
[19:10] <raidenovich> now start your playstation 3
[19:10] <gstnet> jpedroza: yeah i know that
[19:10] <raidenovich> go to the movie section in the XMB
[19:10] <jim88> hi all .. does anyone know of a way to have a form emailed to someone ... have them fill it out and click a link to have it returned to sender?
[19:10] <raidenovich> and there should be a green arrow
[19:10] <gstnet> jpedroza: i am new to kubuntu and so far i love it, but i really miss fish from quanta
[19:10] <gstnet> jpedroza: adn just to piss me off fish works in konquerer
[19:10] <jpedroza> gstnet: There aren't many developers on Quanta 4 right now, I am going to start working with them to help.
[19:11] <gstnet> jpedroza: my understanding was that quanta will die
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> jim88: could send the form as a blank form in an email which can be edtted when they hit reply
[19:11] <gstnet> jpedroza: well not really die, but move to be kdevelop plugin
[19:11] <jpedroza> jim88: That isn't really a linux question, but rather a scripting question. check in #php, #perl, or #javascript
[19:11] <jpedroza> gstnet: The editor is becoming kdevelop, instead of Kate, but other than that, it should stay the same
[19:11] <raidenovich> can you see it in the XMB xp-killer?
[19:12] <roozbehonline> Hi All
[19:12] <jim88> ahhh ok
[19:12] <gstnet> jpedroza: well that is good news
[19:12] <roozbehonline> I have a problem with adept in KDE 4.2
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> jim88: you dont have to complicate stuff
[19:12] <jpedroza> gstnet: Of course, with it being FOSS, we can make it whatever we wnat. =)
[19:12] <xp-killer> raidenovich: yea but the ps3 only sees media tome
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> jim88: the simplest answer is always best
[19:12] <jpedroza> roozbehonline: What issue are you having?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> !ask | roozbehonline
[19:13] <raidenovich> ?? cant be
[19:13] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: loot at this
[19:13] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: http://i43.tinypic.com/dyxi4h.png
[19:13] <raidenovich> what does the program say?
[19:13] <raidenovich> should be a picture of playstation and "ps3 has been found"
[19:14] <xp-killer> raidenovich: i had to rescan and add a directory
[19:14] <raidenovich> now its working?
[19:14] <jpedroza> roozbehonline: Are you running the pre-release of Jaunty? If so, you might have to edit your sources.list file in /etc/apt manually, as they appear to be working on that part of Adept
[19:14] <xp-killer> raidenovich: tanks it works if i had money i will send u but im dead brok from christmas and new year lol
[19:14] <wizardslovak> ook noob question, apt-get is for getting aplications , what is command if you want remove application from system?
[19:14] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: apt-get remove
[19:15] <raidenovich> np xp-killer
[19:15] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: You can also use Adept in KDE
[19:15] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: i am running intrepid
[19:15] <ali_> hi everyone i have a problem
[19:15] <xp-killer> raidenovich: so if i have to run the ps3 media server i have to go tru the console thing againg?
[19:15] <ali_> i am unable to play .wmv file on Kubuntu machine
[19:15] <Jahmon> sigh so i had to reinstall to fix the wifi issue - nothing helped
[19:15] <raidenovich> yep, you can make a shellscript if you want
[19:15] <Jahmon> !video
[19:15] <ali_> I cant hear the audio
[19:15] <raidenovich> but i couldnt get it to work by now
[19:16] <raidenovich> :D
[19:16] <Jahmon> !mp3
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> roozbehonline: just use: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:16] <demarco> what is the best windows simulator for ubuntu?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> roozbehonline: add the repo to the end of the file
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> !best | demarco
[19:16] <Jahmon> i use virtual box demarco
[19:16] <ali_> can you tell me how to instal... codes on MPLAYER... i have even tried opening the file using VLC.. but still the same
[19:16] <jpedroza> demarco: I too, use VirtualBox
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> demarco: how do yuo mean "simulator"?
[19:16] <Jahmon> !virtualbox | demarco
[19:17] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: i used this commanf
[19:17] <xp-killer> raidenovich: i close off the server how do i reopend it?
[19:17] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: command
[19:17] <BluesKaj> jpedroza , adept is the default kde package manager..synaptic is the gnome package manager. Not a fan of gnome but synaptic is better than adept about dependencies and fixing broken pkges
[19:17] <raidenovich> you have to do it with the console
[19:17] <raidenovich> xp-killer:
[19:17] <demarco> I use Wine, but it handles "Freemind" very jittery and buggy. Freemind is java based
[19:17] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: i replaced all sources !
[19:17] <demarco> i will try virtual box
[19:17] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: and i entered sudo pat-get update
[19:18] <jpedroza> BluesKaj: True, but since this the Kubuntu room, I thought I would stick with the KDE defaults
[19:18] <roozbehonline> jpedroza: but i have this problem yet
[19:18] <jpedroza> =)
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> demarco: if its java based it can be ran if you have java installed in linux
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> demarco: java is java
[19:18] <Jahmon> demarco virtual box is a virtual machine - it allows you to run windows within linux
[19:18] <BluesKaj> jpedroza , got give credit where it's due :)
[19:18] <BluesKaj> gotta
[19:18] <xp-killer> raidenovich: ok tanks.and the shell u were saying how does that work?
[19:19] <Jahmon> what is a good codec pack to allow me to play video/mp3 etc?
[19:19] <demarco> but Freemind software is not for ubuntu. would you know how to install it regardless?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> demarco: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=7118&package_id=161831&release_id=574421
[19:19] <p_quarles> Jahmon: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:19] <Jahmon> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras - is that what i need for video / mp3 support?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> kubuntu-restricted-extras , Jahmon
[19:19] <jpedroza> BluesKaj: I prefer apt-get on CLI to just about anything else, but I am oldschool
[19:19] <raidenovich> couldnt configure it by now xp-killer
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> demarco: theres the debs for it
[19:19] <raidenovich> should be pretty easy though
[19:19] <Jahmon> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras - is that what i need for video / mp3 support? or do i use kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:20] <xp-killer> raidenovich: im a noob dont know mutch only know how to install from adept
[19:20] <BluesKaj> jpedroza , sometimes apt or even aptityude sre sufficient ...I use them a lot
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> demarco: its also on the repositorys
[19:20] <p_quarles> Jahmon: they give you almost the same thing; install both if you like
[19:20] <Jahmon> is there a difference between running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras / sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:20] <BluesKaj> damn KB , still acting up
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> demarco: sudo apt-get install freemind
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> demarco: and it will install for you
[19:20] <Jahmon> last time i installed the restricted extras i could not play mp3
[19:20] <demarco> let me try
[19:20] <Jahmon> but i will try again
[19:20] <raidenovich> xp-killer: you can ask here how to create a skript to run your ./PMS.sh ...
[19:21] <Jahmon> what is the best way to start a pppoe connection in kubuntu? i was using sudo pppeoconf
[19:21] <Jahmon> is their a gui?
[19:21] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: how to create a skript to run your ./PMS.sh?
[19:21] <raidenovich> and make it executable so that you just have to click on a symbol
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its the command to execute the script
[19:22] <Jahmon> what is the best way to start a pppoe connection in kubuntu? i was using sudo pppeoconf - is there a gui menu i can use? my terminal is shaky
[19:22] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: yea
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if you run ls can you see the file?
[19:22] <roozbehonline> HI all
[19:22] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip:  i want to do it so it can be an ico insted of going in DOS all the time
[19:22] <roozbehonline> I have a problem
[19:23] <roozbehonline> look at this : http://i43.tinypic.com/dyxi4h.png
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its a terminal, not DOS
[19:23] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: ok i see the file in green
[19:23] <raidenovich> ActionParsnip:
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: thats great
[19:23] <raidenovich> he can run the file
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: type: ./PMS.sh
[19:24] <raidenovich> he wants some sort of shortcut
[19:24] <raidenovich> so that he just have to click on an icon to run that skript
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you should be able to double click on the file to run it now
[19:24]  * mneptok whispers "it's 'script' with a 'c'"
[19:24] <raidenovich> thanks :P
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> demarco: is it installing?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> roozbehonline, kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , then paste it in pastebin
[19:25] <demarco> it said it was already installed
[19:25] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: cool it works tanks
[19:25] <demarco> does not show up inside my applications
[19:25] <raidenovich> sry didnt know xp-killer
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> demarco: thats fine, type freemind in konsole and it will run
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> demarco: you may find it in your menus
[19:26] <xp-killer> raidenovich: one last help.i does write done these things to memories how to install or config stuff
[19:26] <demarco> what area of my menus
[19:26] <blip-> hi, the right side panel hide button on the main panel of KDE3 does't work for me... it doesn't do anything.  the button on the left works fine though.
[19:27] <xp-killer> raidenovich: so from the start i open the console with F4 then what after?
[19:27] <demarco> hold on
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> demarco: i couldnt tell you , i dont use kwin. If you run kmenuedit you can ad it wherever you wish
[19:27] <wizardslovak> doea anyone has any experience with mysql and vbulletin??
[19:27] <demarco> wow
[19:27] <demarco> you are genius!
[19:27] <raidenovich> well, its different everytime xp-killer
[19:27] <demarco> thank you guys so much
[19:28] <xp-killer> raidenovich: its not the same way to install all .sh files?
[19:28] <raidenovich> you didnt install it
[19:28] <raidenovich> it was installed
[19:28] <raidenovich> you just made it executable and run it
[19:28] <xp-killer> raidenovich: i turn it to an excutable first right?
[19:29] <xp-killer> raidenovich: how did i make it an exe?
[19:29] <roozbehonline> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/meb6992f
[19:29] <xp-killer> raidenovich:  the comand?
[19:29] <raidenovich> sudo chmod +x *****.sh
[19:29] <raidenovich> is sudo even necessary?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> demarco: np bro
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> raidenovich: only if the file is not owned by him
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: exe is a windows file
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: the +x has now made it executable
[19:31] <xp-killer> raidenovich:  ok
[19:31] <xp-killer> raidenovich: then i did ./PMS.sh?
[19:31] <raidenovich> yes, thats the way to run a shell script
[19:32] <BluesKaj> roozbehonline , the 'experimental' deb repos caused me some probs in the past ...as well as the last deb repos in your list ..not stable IIRC
[19:33] <xp-killer> raidenovich: ok tanks i wrote it down
[19:33] <raidenovich> no prob
[19:34] <roozbehonline> BluesKaj: i must remove this repos ?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if you right click the file -> properties you may be able to set it to run in a konsole
[19:35] <BluesKaj> roozbehonline , make sure you have your third party repos in adept enabled as well.
[19:37] <BluesKaj> roozbehonline , then do a sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[19:41] <base10k> Hi all, if i wanted to modify an existing kde plasmoid (The digital clock) how would i go about it? I'm going to try to add some more options (such as displaying the timezone on a newline, allowing the user to add text of their own etc)
[19:42] <PhilRod> base10k: they might be able to help in #plasma
[19:42] <base10k> PhilRod: great, thanks :)
[19:43] <jpedroza> Anyone in here gotten the nvidia drivers to work with the latest version of xorg in Jaunty?
[19:43] <PhilRod> base10k: no problem. Good luck!
[19:44] <BluesKaj> jpedroza ,you really should ask that Q in #kubunu+1
[19:44] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:44] <jpedroza> BluesKaj: There is a +1 room! That is what I get for not paying attention
[19:44] <jordi> hello
[19:45] <BluesKaj> err #ubuntu+1
[19:45] <jordi> alguien de España
[19:45] <BluesKaj> !es
[19:46] <jordi> ok, es la primera vez y estoy trasteando, no sabia que existia esto
[19:49] <xp-killer> raidenovich: i move the folder from my desktop to my home folder now i can get the ps3 media to detect the ps3.how do i debug the log file?
[19:53] <elliott> is there a way to put knetworkmanager in offline mode from the command line, or otherwise a way to stop networking without killing processes?
[19:54] <jpedroza> elliott: You can use ifconfig <interface> down to down a connection
[19:54] <jpedroza> elliott: Like: sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[19:55] <elliott> jpedroza: knetworkmanager immediately brings it back up
[19:55] <jpedroza> hmmmm, isn't there a disable interface option in knetworkmanager as well?
[19:55] <elliott> yes, from the GUI there is
[19:55] <elliott> but i want to do it from the command line
[19:57] <jpedroza> not sure, when I down an IF it doesn't get reactivated...
[19:59] <tictric> 4.2beta, strigi doesn't run here which I was told it was supposed to from 4.2 on?
[20:03] <xz01d> Привет ребят.
[20:04] <Pici> !ru | xz01d
[20:05] <marius> how do I install caffeine on kubuntu? seems I can't find it anywhere
[20:05] <marius> ?
[20:05] <marius> help pls
[20:06] <marius> dragon player can't have the job done
[20:06] <xp-killer> question: do i need internet to use a server like from laptop to laptop using the same router?
[20:07] <shadeslayer> marius:did you try adept???
[20:08] <marius> oh
[20:09] <marius> It's kaffeine not Caffeine
[20:09] <marius> so dumb...
[20:09] <marius> hehe
[20:09] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer kaffeine is no longer default on Intrepid
[20:09] <shadeslayer> ohh
[20:09] <alan_> ?
[20:09] <shadeslayer> didnt notice
[20:09] <marius> nope it isn't
[20:09] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | marius
[20:10] <raidenovich> is there any way to get 1 window from one computer to another? but not vnc ... i want only 1 window not the whole screen
[20:12] <Guest56596> kaffeine is not default but it should be for it's able to download necesary codecs itself, unlike dragon player
[20:12] <shadeslayer> Use VLC it has almost all the codecs
[20:13] <alan_> someone know some funny chan
[20:13] <jpedroza> raidenovich: What are you trying to accomplish?
[20:13] <alan_> ok thanks
[20:14] <jpedroza> raidenovich: You can export your xdisplay to any other computer running x11...
[20:14] <raidenovich> well, i want irc running on a computer which is online 24/7 and sometimes i want to "login" with my laptop to use it...
[20:15] <jpedroza> raidenovich: not sure if this would work for you or not...
[20:15] <jpedroza> raidenovich: http://www.hungry.com/~jamie/xexport.html
[20:15] <raidenovich> thanks, i will read it
[20:20] <bukharin> hello. i'm trying to diagnose a very annoying problem i'm experiencing with my kubuntu intrepid. sometimes during normal use, the system will slow down to a crawl, the HD LED will show great activity and plasma cpu usage will spike using all available cpu time. The problem seems to be related to firefox, as this is always open when it happens,but i can't confirm, as firefox is normally open in any session. If i login with another user (ie,
[20:20] <bukharin> now), the problem does not appear, even with same apps and similar usage patterns. any idea?
[20:20] <bukharin> any pointers on where to even begin looking would be greatly appreaciated.
[20:22] <shadeslayer> !grub
[20:22] <omicron23> hi. I am on ubuntu 8.10 and I want to install the kde 4.2rc1. what package do I have to install after I added the repo as mentioned on kubuntu.org?
[20:23] <bukharin> shadeslayer hi, i was trying to help you yesterday, but i think i was unable. i seem to recall you had a problem with installation?
[20:23] <bukharin> shadeslayer somewhat related to a missing hp partition?
[20:23] <shadeslayer> bukharin:that problem was sorted
[20:24] <shadeslayer> he formatted the partition
[20:24] <bukharin> good to hear.
[20:24] <shadeslayer> i told my friend to download a recovery disk
[20:24] <shadeslayer> its legit
[20:25] <BluesKaj> omicron23 , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <bukharin> would that recreate the hp partition?
[20:25] <bukharin> or it makes it unnecesary?
[20:26] <seele> is there something weird with 4.1.4's konsole? the scrollbar is on the left side and the TERM seems to be messed up
[20:26] <bukharin> !etiquette
[20:27] <omicron23> BluesKaj, oh, that easy =) thank you!
[20:28] <bukharin> hello. i'm trying to diagnose a very annoying problem i'm experiencing with my kubuntu intrepid. sometimes during normal use, the system will slow down to a crawl, the HD LED will show great activity and plasma cpu usage will spike using all available cpu time. The problem seems to be related to firefox, as this is always open when it happens,but i can't confirm, as firefox is normally open in any session. If i login with another user (ie,
[20:28] <bukharin> now), the problem does not appear, even with same apps and similar usage patterns. any idea? (repeating the rather long question, pardon the flood)
[20:29] <TraceRoute> How do i show the locational bar in dolphin?
[20:31] <jussi01> TraceRoute: click the location
[20:31] <TraceRoute> hahaha
[20:31] <TraceRoute> sorry
[20:31] <jussi01> :)
[20:32] <shadeslayer> bukharin:oh sorry was busy with other work
[20:33] <shadeslayer> bukharin:it eliminates the need of having a recovery partition i think
[20:33] <seele> so.. anyone with 4.1.4 have weirdness with konsole? squeezed fonts, scrollbar on left side, no clear screen capability,etc?
[20:33] <bukharin> shadeslayer: np, just wanted to know if you neede further assistance with the install... and was curious about the recovery imaeg.
[20:33] <shadeslayer> but the recovery partition was meant to restore your HD if you dont remap it
[20:34] <shadeslayer> which i did remap,so no point of having a partition now
[20:36] <shadeslayer> BTW there's a guy with the same problem in ##windows right now
[20:36] <shadeslayer> he lost GRUB
[20:36] <TraceRoute> does anyone know if you can add more than one directory to ushare.conf
[20:36] <TraceRoute> ?
[20:47] <matmat07> Is there someone avaliable to help me?
[20:47] <bukharin> matmat07: just ask, if anyone knows, it will get answered...
[20:47] <syockit> matmat07: you should ask away and wait for 5 minutes
[20:47] <syockit> matmat07: then repeat, rinse
[20:49] <matmat07> I have burned the iso image of the alternate kubuntu, thinking it was the desktop cd. After that I delete the iso file
[20:49] <matmat07> Is there a way I could still isntall it with wubi?
[20:49] <matmat07> I would like to try it before playing with partition
[20:50] <bukharin> matmat07: i'm not sure, but i think that the alternate cd does not come with wubi
[20:50] <matmat07> I know, I got Wubi after, thinking it could install with the file on the cd
[20:50] <syockit> It does not come with wubi, but I think wubi can be configured to use it
[20:51] <syockit> Okay, I've checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide and it says no
[20:51] <syockit> But wait don't give up yet. I remember there's a way...
[20:52] <bukharin> well, if the alternate also functions a live cd (i dont know), you could boot into that, and download a new desktop iso. or even more, try to build one with wubi, but i don't think that woud be feasible.
[20:53] <fuser> some site to download cool plasmoids
[20:53] <matmat07> thanks for your help
[20:53] <syockit> Alternate doesn't have live function if I'm not mistaken. It's install only
[20:53] <matmat07> install only
[20:53] <matmat07> i've checked
[20:53] <syockit> fuser: kde-look.org, checked that?
[20:53] <bukharin> then your preetty much fubared.
[20:53] <dan> hey, im having some troubles using terminal to get my atheros card running and one have any ideas?
[20:53] <fuser> syockit there is not much variety
[20:54] <syockit> fuser: most people who develop plasmoids would've posted them there anywat, so I don't know if there are any other sites collecting plasmoids
[20:56] <fuser> hey how to find and connect to irc servers
[20:57] <syockit> Damn, I just can't remember the tool I used to make live USB
[20:57] <syockit> I think it has nt or something in its name
[20:58] <syockit> or was it ng...
[20:58] <fuser> just search usb
[20:59] <syockit> fuser: What do you mean find and connect? You using Konversation?
[21:00] <Stathis`> hey all
[21:01] <Stathis`> how are you?
[21:02] <Neremor> lol i'm fine :D
[21:03] <Stathis`> nice
[21:08] <marta_> qué isto?
[21:15] <syockit> A-hah! Now I know that this channel is quiet around this time
[21:15] <TraceRoute> do any of you have ushare installed?
[21:16] <athlon1> Hallo, any can tell me how can I listen to last.fm in Amarok?
[21:16] <athlon1> I use amaro 1.4.9.1
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:20] <Roey> ActionParsnip:  ahahaha I love your nick
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> its a harry hill joke
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> thanks too :)
[21:21] <faileas> heya roey
[21:23] <Roey> hey faileas!
[21:27] <didi> scusate dove devo andare per parlare itaòliano?
[21:27] <syockit> Strange that I took that as 'Hey fella!'
[21:27] <PhilRod> !it
[21:29] <Dekans> How can we install google gadgets on plasma with KDE 4.2 ?
[21:32] <aioobe> hi! does anyone know how I can start the System Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager  from a terminal?
[21:34] <Dekans> How can we install google gadgets on plasma with KDE 4.2 ?
[21:34] <aioobe> never mind... "systemsettings" did the trick
[21:46] <elliott> is there a way to put knetworkmanager in offline mode from the command line, or otherwise a way to stop networking without killing processes?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> elliott: sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> elliott: or
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> elliott: sudo ifdown <interface name>
[21:50] <syockit> Dekans: I thinks that's only on nightly...
[21:54] <Freddy2> hi
[21:54] <Freddy2> is there anyone having problems with the update of readahead? (i think that's the right package name)
[21:56] <rickest> Freddy2: no problems here, you getting a specific error or something?
[21:57] <Freddy2> from adept_updater it is downloaded, but "can't send information.." (or something similar)
[21:58] <Freddy2> "error when trying to send changes" (seems to be related to a corrupt file)
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> elliott: any good?
[21:58] <elliott> i haven't had a chance to try those yet, but from trying them before, i remember knetworkmanager just immediately bringing the interface back up
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> elliott: kill it off
[22:02] <elliott> well i want to do it without having to kill anything, as this will be runing from a script
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> elliott: you can use killall <app name> in the script
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> personally i have network manager, it gets in the way if you try to do anything intelligent
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> have == hate
[22:08] <syockit> But the idea is to turn it off without killing it. Aren't there any method to ask it to turn it off?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> you can use kill -15 <pid>
[22:13] <elliott> you can disable it from the GUI so the functionality is obviously there, it just seems like there's no cli interface for it
[22:16] <angel> holas
[22:17] <angel> acabo de instalar Kubuntu 8.10 32 bit, una marabilla
[22:17] <angel> su entorno grafico esta buenisimo
[22:18] <angel> pero si o si necesitas placa aceleradora de video
[22:18] <Nomexous> !es | angel
[22:18] <angel> ok y gracias
[22:30] <Stathis`> http://users.otenet.gr/~snetwork/    γειααααααααααα
[22:30] <Stathis`> byezzzzzzzzzzzz
[22:41] <Lokiase> hello all, does anyone knows if google chrome is working in kubuntu?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Lokiase: you've been told in #ubuntu
[22:45] <Lokiase> ActionParsnip: indeed :)
[22:54] <didi> sorry ubuntu.it
[22:54] <didi> ?
[22:55] <didi> scusate in italiano per ubuntu
[22:55] <Dragnslcr> !it
[22:56] <jpedroza> Hey all. I just installed Intrepid on my son's computer and then installed the nvidia driver and changed some settings and now it just comes up after login to a black screen with the mouse floating
[22:56] <jpedroza> I have deleted the .nvidia-settings in his folder and replaced the xorg.conf file, still no screen.
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza: do you get anything if you right cick?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> like a menu?
[22:57] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: Nothing
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> ok
[22:57] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: Moving the mouse distorts the pointer
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza: press ctrl+alt+back space
[22:58] <jpedroza> It restarts the xserver, returns to login screen, when I login, black screen
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza: change session to to console login and run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza: and uninstall the nvidia stuffs
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza: if you then reboot you should get a desktop
[23:02] <lokieee> hi
[23:02] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: Should I use kernel framebuffer devices?
[23:02] <lokieee> I was having issues getting adobe flash plug-in to work, I can see videos and things but there is no sound. any ideas on what I can do
[23:03] <lokieee> I can hear the log-in and log out sound so i know my sound is working
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza: no, you should be ok
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> lokieee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2009-January/064812.html   http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/11/27/how-to-fix-no-sound-with-flashfirefox-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy/
[23:06] <lokieee> I do have integrated sound but i use a sound blaster audgiy 2 pci card, I Never saw an option though in my bios to disable on board sound
[23:07] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: Should I clean the cache so I can reload nvidia?
[23:07] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: With apt-get
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> yeah thatd be good
[23:08] <angel> kubuntu-es
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza: if you run lspci | grep -i vga what does it say
[23:09] <zendo> Hi. Few days ago I installed kde-4 on Kubuntu 8.04, and uninstalled it little after, but then when I start linux X doesnt start. I need to type "sudo kdm" manually to get display. Can someone please tell em how to fix (restore to previous state) this?
[23:10] <angel> como llego a kubuntu españa?
[23:11] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9500 GT
[23:11] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: Still comes up to a black screen
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> cool
[23:11] <jpedroza> ActionParsnip: I am thinking bad video card at this point
[23:12] <urmel291> zendo: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[23:14] <zendo> urmel291: ok I did that. Now should "/etc/alternatives/x-session-manager" point to "kdm" ?
[23:14] <zendo> urmel291: because it doesnt...
[23:15] <urmel291> urmel291: yes, it should
[23:15] <urmel291> zendo: yes, it should
[23:15] <Lokiase> hello all, i installed ubuntu 8.10, then I instanned Kubuntu desktop. Now in Kubuntu my language is wrong, but the support-language-nl file is selected... I noticed that normally, when you click the main package-file, a lot of other files are installed with it, but with me by example the language-kde isn't installed (and other also)... but I do not know wich files are needed, can someone help me?
[23:15] <zendo> urmel291: well it still points to "/usr/bin/xfce4-session"
[23:16] <urmel291> zendo: you can use the "update-alternatives" command to change the link
[23:16] <zendo> urmel291: can you please tell me how?
[23:17] <zendo> urmel291: "update-alternatives --conf x-session-manager" ?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> zendo: doesnt that need sudo?
[23:17] <urmel291> zendo: "sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager"
[23:17] <urmel291> yes, it needs sudo
[23:19] <zendo> urmel291: thanks.I also reconfigured "x-window-manager" bacl to kwin
[23:19] <zendo> urmel291: thanks a lot
[23:19] <urmel291> zendo: ur welcome
[23:22] <Lokiase> nobody expierence with languages ?
[23:23] <marcel> what language ?
[23:23] <Lokiase> marcel: language in kde is englisch, not my language (dutch) although I think the packet is instalald
[23:24] <urmel291> Lokiase: you can change it in "System Settings" -> "Regional and Language"
[23:25] <urmel291> Lokiase: make sure you have "language-pack-kde-nl" installed
[23:32] <mascool> is there a way to make the sender column in KMail 4.1.4 display the sender's email instead of name ?
[23:34] <bobo1> cool site to share -- http://www.futuregame.com/index.php?r=vaderdarth21
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> mascool: so if you type an emailaddress it changes to a name
[23:36] <mascool> ActionParsnip,  ???
[23:36] <sigra> anyone know a good c++ channel
[23:36] <lakis1982> hello . i have kubuntu intrepid .. does anyone know how can i adjust the fonts of the menu bar in firefox ????
[23:36] <mascool> In the message list, the sender column shows their name
[23:37] <mascool> i want it to show their email
[23:37] <mascool> no typing
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> oh i see
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> mascool: so you want the email address instead of the friendly name
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/outlookcontacts/Jan2006/post25415351.asp
[23:40] <mascool> yes sir
[23:40] <mascool> ActionParsnip, just one problem with that link
[23:41] <mascool> IT'S FOR FUCK|NG OUTLOOK!
[23:41] <mascool> are you high ?
[23:41] <bazhang> mascool, watch the language
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> mascool: chillout dude
[23:42] <mascool> bazhang, I'll try
[23:42] <sigra> #c++
[23:42] <mascool> ActionParsnip, if you cant help dont bother giving people wrong advice
[23:45] <kixx> I just tried to install a Brother printer driver with dpkg, which apparently borked because of a missing lpr dependency.  Is lpr packaged with kubuntu put of the box?
[23:55] <robinr> kixx: cups-bsd contains an lpr command
[23:55] <robinr> and yes it it
[23:55] <robinr> is
[23:56] <kixx> ahh.. maybe that's the problem
[23:57] <kixx> well, now I can't remove the driver package i installed because: The package fax4750elpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[23:57] <faileas> hmm, i'm trying to work out something. lets say i have two apps i want accessable over the same port, but on different hostnames, say two irc servers- is there any way to configure a firewall to say forward foo.bar.com:6667 to port 7000 and bar.bar.com:6667 to port 6667 for example?
[23:57] <kixx> is there a way to use dpkg to remove this package and start over?