[03:17] <clerum> I have a bug that I was watching https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/254622
[03:18] <clerum> it was assinged to linux-kernel-team but then that was changed about a month or so ago
[03:18] <clerum> is everything flagged correctly in it? so that someone will pick it up at somepoint
[03:45] <greg-g> clerum: everything is filled out correctly in that bug, as per the Kernel Team Policies.
[03:45] <greg-g> Advanced Anti-Tangle Technology
[03:45] <greg-g> sorry, wrong paste
[03:45] <clerum> thanks
[03:45] <greg-g> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[03:46] <greg-g> you might want to /join #ubuntu-kernel to see if there is anything else you can do
[03:46] <clerum> will do
[03:46] <clerum> thanks
[03:46] <greg-g> no problem.
[06:02] <itnet7> Bug #318533
[06:02] <itnet7> Can someone please mark this wishlist when you get the chance?
[06:13] <dholbach> good morning
[06:14] <hggdh|away> dholbach, heh,,, again, good night. Really.
[06:14] <dholbach> hiya hggdh|away
[08:41] <savvas> Any bugs admin that can edit comments? can you remove the skype and phone number mentioned in the comments for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acidlab/+bug/298796 ?
[08:42] <dholbach> savvas: not sure that's possible at all - try asking in #launchpad
[08:42] <savvas> or you should send the user to answers.launchpad.net ?
[08:42] <savvas> *or I*
[08:42] <savvas> ok thanks
[08:55] <thekorn> good morning
[10:44] <blaq> hi all, starting today after the latest round of 8.10 updates, metacity has been segfaulting on login
[10:44] <blaq> I'd like to try and see whats going on and/or report a bug but I don't know where metacity keeps its log files
[10:45] <blaq> does anyone know where i can find out whats going on inside metacity? when i run it from a shell (replacing my fluxbox session) it gives me no useful info. The best I have is a cryptic error in dmesg
[10:55] <james_w> blaq: let's start with that, what's the cryptic error?
[10:56] <james_w> also if you pastebin the output when run in a terminal that may be useful
[10:56] <blaq> metacity[18325]: segfault at 0 ip 080abab3 sp bfd30b80 error 4 in metacity[8048000+7a000]
[10:56] <blaq> heh
[10:56] <blaq> thats from dmesg
[10:56] <james_w> ok
[10:56] <james_w> you can install -dbgsym packages and try and get a backtrace
[10:57] <james_w> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[10:57] <blaq> mike@mike-laptop:~$ metacity --replace
[10:57] <blaq> Segmentation fault
[10:57] <blaq> ok cheers i'll check that link out
[10:58] <blaq> i've tried ruling out a user config problem by creating a new user and trying to login with the fresh metacity config
[10:58] <blaq> still no dice
[10:58] <LimCore> I wish ubunt 8.04 would have at least one media player that does not fail to play videos
[11:08] <blaq> so you're saying 8.04 doesn't have a media player that doesn't not play videos?
[11:09] <LimCore> well 3 main media players in ubuntu 8.04 fail epically
[11:09] <james_w> blaq: do you have -proposed enabled?
[11:09] <LimCore> of this totem's failure is rather a problem unique for me (nvidia problem)
[11:09] <blaq> yeah james_w
[11:10] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/319168  would be one example
[11:10] <LimCore> interestingly, VLC have similar problems
[11:11] <james_w> blaq: as well as trying to get a backtrace could you please install the "debian-goodies" package and run
[11:11]  * Hobbsee mutters something about LimCore's machine being epic fail, and ponders putting it on a regular repeater.
[11:11] <james_w> which-pkg-broke metacity
[11:12] <james_w> and then pastebin the output
[11:12] <LimCore> Hobbsee: I test on serval
[11:12] <LimCore> Hobbsee: I test on several machines
[11:12] <Hobbsee> apparently they all fail.
[11:12] <LimCore> yes, since I installed ubuntu on them they do =)
[11:12] <Hobbsee> easy solution to that.
[11:12] <LimCore> Hobbsee: or - you could try to confirm my bug
[11:12] <Hobbsee> what surprises me is that most other people can't reproduce your bugs.
[11:13] <blaq> sure thing james_w
[11:13] <LimCore> Hobbsee: that is not true
[11:13] <james_w> blaq: I appreciate your help in this, if it is a regression in -proposed or -updates then we need to act quickly
[11:13] <LimCore> Hobbsee: on the contrary, many of my bugs where confirmed and even fixed
[11:14] <Hobbsee> i meant the video / audio ones in particular.
[11:14] <LimCore> Hobbsee: yes, its strange why many people with say radeon can not reproduce my bug related to given nvidia gfx model
[11:16] <LimCore> ok sorry I will not report rare bugs then. happy?
[11:25] <Hobbsee> well, report all you like.  They just probably won't get fixed, if no one else can reproduce the problem ;)
[11:25] <Hobbsee> and i'd suspect your 'losing' of sent mail from kmail was just google being silly temporarily, fwiw.
[11:26] <Hobbsee> and any bugs that contain 'epic fail' will probably be ignored, too
[11:27] <blaq> james_w: heh it seems which-pkg-broke has frozen on me
[11:27] <blaq> but here's the backtrace: http://pastebin.com/m711f0ba5
[11:28] <blaq> oh wait
[11:28] <blaq> which-pkg-broke just finished
[11:28] <blaq> that took a while haha
[11:28] <blaq> pastebinning now
[11:29] <blaq> ^ http://pastebin.com/d7369120b
[11:29] <james_w> blaq: you rock, thanks
[11:31] <james_w> so cups is in -updates and -security, but glibc is just in -proposed as far as I can see
[11:31] <james_w> blaq: would you please downgrade libc6?
[11:32] <james_w> do you know how to do that
[11:32] <james_w> ?
[11:32] <blaq> no
[11:32] <james_w> ok
[11:32] <blaq> how?
[11:32] <james_w> please run "sudo aptitude install libc6=2.8~20080505-0ubuntu7"
[11:35] <blaq> it wants me to downgrade libc6-dev and libc6-i686
[11:35] <blaq> y/n
[11:35] <james_w> y please
[11:37] <blaq> heh downloading now, i've been capped :/
[11:37] <savvas> hum.. this is weird, brasero burns a DVD successfully, but it pops an error every time it finishes
[11:37] <blaq> where did you look to see that cus was in -security and -updates but glibc was just in -proposed
[11:38] <blaq> *cups
[11:38] <LimCore> Hobbsee how imap server glitch could cause kmail to loose email in LOCAL "sent" folder
[11:38] <james_w> blaq: launchpad
[11:38] <james_w> blaq: there are a couple of other ways as well
[11:39] <blaq> heh i think i need to familiarize myself with that launchpad
[11:39] <blaq> i've always been a bit of a leech on the linux community, i think it's about time i started helping out where i can :)
[11:40] <LimCore> Hobbsee: but what are you tyring to say, many my bugs are 100% valid as it turns out,  perhaps not all yes.
[11:41] <Hobbsee> LimCore: if gmail reports back that there's no sent mail, then the local folder will probably update to show that...
[11:42] <LimCore> Hobbsee: I didnt debug that too much. What are you implying then
[11:42] <Hobbsee> LimCore: that gmail may well have screwed up, and that it was transient.
[11:43] <LimCore> perhaps, and?
[11:43] <Hobbsee> in which case it's clearly not a kmail bug?
[11:43] <LimCore> possibly
[11:43] <james_w> blaq: also, the output of "gconftool -g /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier" would be appreciated
[11:44] <LimCore> but right now I try to watch in a nice GUI player some short video clips. and this doesnt work. I find this really compromitating
[11:44] <blaq> No value set for `/apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier'
[11:44] <blaq> ok i've downgraded glibc
[11:44] <james_w> blaq: that's the bug then it seems
[11:44] <blaq> should i try running again?
[11:45] <james_w> yes please
[11:45] <james_w> have you rebooted since the upgrades?
[11:45] <blaq> since the upgrades yes
[11:45] <blaq> since the downgrade no
[11:45] <blaq> still segfaulting
[11:46] <james_w> ok, as libc6 is already loaded I'm not sure it will be using the new one
[11:46] <james_w> one moment please
[11:46] <blaq> reboot?
[11:46] <blaq> sure
[11:46] <james_w> just asking someone smarter than me
[11:47] <blaq> standing on shoulders of giants etc.
[11:47] <blaq> :)
[11:47] <james_w> yes, you need to reboot to use the new libc6
[11:47] <blaq> i think for me it's giants all the way down
[11:48] <blaq> sure thing
[11:48] <james_w> heh :-)
[11:48] <blaq> be back in a sec
[11:48] <james_w> just do exactly the same thing as before please
[11:48] <blaq> as in the backtrace?
[11:48] <james_w> however you tried to login etc.
[11:48] <blaq> or do you want me to try and just login via gnome
[11:48] <blaq> sure thing
[11:49] <blaq> be back in a sec
[11:49] <james_w> once you are able to come back on IRC then please do and we can see what happened
[11:53] <blaq> no dice
[11:53] <blaq> :/
[11:53] <blaq> do you want me to try downgrading cups?
[12:02] <james_w> blaq: yes please
[12:03] <blaq> james_w, do you think a valgrind trace would be worthwhile?
[12:03] <LimCore> anyone with 8.04 ubuntu can test something for me for 3 minutes?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/319168
[12:03] <james_w> blaq: the backtrace looks sufficient to me
[12:04] <james_w> blaq: it looks as though it is crashing as you had no value set for that gconf key
[12:05] <blaq> I don't know how though? I haven't touched gconf in at least a year
[12:05] <blaq> maybe the years of continually dist-upgrading has taken it's toll and i need a fresh install :D
[12:07] <blaq> hmm, doesn't explain why the fresh new user had the same segfault
[12:07] <james_w> blaq: could you pastebin ~/.gconf/apps/metacity/general/%gconf.xml
[12:08] <james_w> and /usr/share/gconf/schemas/metacity.schemas please?
[12:08] <blaq> sure thing
[12:08] <blaq> one sec
[12:09] <blaq> http://pastebin.com/d2d354f5e
[12:09] <blaq> thats the first
[12:09] <blaq> the second is huge though
[12:11] <james_w> yeah
[12:11] <james_w> "grep -A10 -B10 mouse_button_modifier /usr/share/gconf/schemas/metacity.schemas" would be better
[12:13] <blaq> http://pastebin.com/d475dcf0c
[12:19] <blaq> should i downgrade cups to 1.3.9-2ubuntu6?
[12:19] <james_w> blaq: thanks, I'm not sure where it is getting unset then
[12:19] <james_w> blaq: give it a go
[12:19] <blaq> is that the right version? heh i had a look on launchpad
[12:19] <james_w> it is
[12:20] <blaq> sweet! :)
[12:20] <blaq> brb
[12:20] <james_w> the only issue is that it may not be available on your mirror anymore
[12:20] <james_w> give it a go though, if it reports that it can't find the version we can try another way
[12:20] <blaq> E: Version '1.3.9-2ubuntu6' for 'cups' was not found
[12:20] <blaq> i am trying 'cups' yes?
[12:21] <blaq> nevermind
[12:21] <blaq> libcups2
[12:21] <james_w> ah, no, libcups2
[12:22] <james_w> yeah
[12:22] <blaq> yeah still cant find
[12:22] <blaq> same error as above
[12:22] <james_w> ok, check /var/cache/apt/archives/ for that version of libcups2
[12:23] <blaq> yep got it
[12:23] <blaq> dpkg -i?
[12:23] <james_w> yes please
[12:23] <blaq> done
[12:23] <james_w> great
[12:24] <james_w> please reboot and try the same things again the please
[12:24] <blaq> ok one sec
[12:37] <blaq> :(
[12:38] <blaq> didn't work
[12:38] <blaq> but having a look in gconf-editor
[12:38] <blaq> most of the values aren't set
[12:39] <blaq> when i click on one of the values in apps -> metacity -> general it has a little triangle exclamation 'This key has no schema'
[12:41] <blaq> tried throwing '<alt>' into mouse_button_modifier and tried starting metacity
[12:41] <blaq> (metacity:6536): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_font_description_from_string: assertion `str != NULL' failed
[12:41] <blaq> Window manager warning: Could not parse font description "(null)" from GConf key /apps/metacity/general/titlebar_font
[12:41] <blaq> (metacity:6536): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion `string != NULL' failed
[12:41] <blaq> Segmentation fault
[12:41] <blaq> sorry for the paste, it looked small enough
[12:41] <blaq> :)
[12:42] <blaq> seems you were right, my gnome configuration has borked itself somehow
[12:43] <blaq> which seems to be causing the problems
[12:43] <james_w> yeah
[12:43] <james_w> I wonder what's going on
[12:43] <james_w> pedro_: around? Could use your ace debugging skills.
[12:44] <pedro_> james_w: yup!
[12:45] <james_w> hey pedro_
[12:45] <james_w> blaq is having some issues with gconf on Intrepid
[12:45] <james_w> it's reporting that there is no schema for many values, do you know why that might be?
[12:46] <pedro_> ough, blaq is that only with your user configuration or with all the ones created at your machine?
[12:46] <blaq> all created it would seem
[12:46] <james_w> e.g. `/apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier'
[12:46] <james_w> which isn't set in the user config
[12:46] <blaq> i created a new user and while i haven't checked gconf specifically for that user, metacity is still segfaulting in exactly the same way
[12:47] <james_w> and is present in /usr/share/gconf/schemas/metacity.schemas
[12:47] <james_w> with the correct default
[12:47] <james_w> but that default isn't used
[12:47] <james_w> I have a suspicion that update-gconf or whatever it is called failed for you
[12:47] <pedro_> weird
[12:48] <james_w> blaq: is /var/lib/gconf/defaults/%gconf-tree.xml present for you?
[12:48] <james_w> what does ls -l report?
[12:51] <pedro_> blaq: did you already tried to run "sudo update-gconf-defaults" ? does it works fine or it shows you some errors?
[12:51] <pedro_> hello MrKanister
[12:51] <MrKanister> hi pedro_
[12:51] <pedro_> MrKanister: how are you today?
[12:52] <MrKanister> pedro_: I am fine. Thanks. And you?
[12:52] <CrownAmbassador> Hi all. Can anyone tell me where I can find the notes for previous meetings and classes? I had it but lost it!
[12:52] <blaq> sorry phone call
[12:52] <pedro_> MrKanister: I'm good too, thanks.
[12:52] <blaq> yeah /var/lib/gconf/defaults/%gconf-tree.xml exists for me
[12:52] <pedro_> CrownAmbassador: to which meetings are you referring to ?
[12:53] <MrKanister> pedro_: I couldn't resist and already started on the bugs
[12:53] <blaq> pedro_, no i haven't
[12:53] <blaq> i'll try that now
[12:53] <blaq> no errors
[12:54] <MrKanister> CrownAmbassador: Hi. Do you mean the previous UbuntuDeveloperWeeks ?
[12:54] <MrKanister> CrownAmbassador: Those are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Previous
[12:56] <CrownAmbassador> Found what I was looking for thanks. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/
[12:56] <james_w> blaq: does gconf-editor work better now?
[12:57] <blaq> james_w, no, everything is still no value
[12:59] <james_w> blaq: which locale are you running in?
[13:00] <blaq> i have no idea :/
[13:01] <james_w> en_AU?
[13:01] <blaq> mike@mike-laptop:~$ locale
[13:01] <blaq> LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
[13:01] <blaq> yep
[13:03] <james_w> ok, can you run "grep -B10 -A10 mouse_button_modifier /var/lib/gconf/defaults/" please?
[13:04] <james_w> er "grep -l mouse_button_modifier /var/lib/gconf/defaults/*"
[13:04] <blaq> /var/lib/gconf/defaults/%gconf-tree.xml
[13:05] <james_w> just that one?
[13:05] <james_w> "grep -B10 -A10 mouse_button_modifier /var/lib/gconf/defaults/%gconf-tree.xml" please
[13:10] <blaq> http://pastebin.com/d51c3ea77
[13:11] <blaq> sorry for the delay again james_w
[13:11] <blaq> :)
[13:11] <james_w> urgh, there was only one file with that string?
[13:11] <james_w> and that's all there was in that file
[13:11] <james_w> ?
[13:11] <james_w> that's the problem then
[13:12] <james_w> I wonder how that happened
[13:14] <blaq> i wonder if a dpkg-reconfigure would help things?
[13:17] <james_w> blaq: try and "sudo gconf-schemas --register-all"
[13:18] <blaq> took a while but i got one warning
[13:18] <blaq> WARNING: Failed to parse default value `??????????? ?????? ;gtk-theme-selector.desktop,???????????? ??????????? ???;default-applications.desktop,??????????? ????;gnome-cups-manager.desktop]' for schema (/schemas/apps/control-center/cc_actions_list)
[13:19] <blaq> all my values are back in gconf though!
[13:19] <blaq> hold on, testing metacity
[13:20] <blaq> gentlemen...
[13:20] <blaq> <-- :D
[13:21] <james_w> heh :-)
[13:21] <blaq> i don't know how it happened, or how on earth you know so much james_w, but thanks for all your help
[13:21] <james_w> I wonder what caused it to get corrupted
[13:21] <james_w> I can't see a link to the updates
[13:21] <blaq> yeah i don't know
[13:22] <james_w> except that maybe something ran gconf-schemas and caused it to be corrupted in the update
[13:22] <blaq> funny cups was involved too, because that was giving me issues yesterday
[13:22] <james_w> :-)
[13:22] <blaq> well thanks again james_w, i think i'll hang around now in case there's anything i can help with haha
[13:23] <james_w> cool :-)
[15:43] <dholbach> Ubuntu Developer Week - Day 2 just about to start in 17m in #ubuntu-classroom :)
[15:44] <pedro_> Yay!
[15:44]  * dholbach hugs pedro_
[15:44]  * pedro_ hugs the great dholbach
[16:46] <bddebian> Boo
[22:12] <rubys> I seem to have the same problem as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/283489 ; is there any more information I can provide?  If it helps, see http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/01/20/noAPIC
[22:22] <charlie-tca> Any additional information you think might be useful is always good
[22:23] <charlie-tca> Also, the fact that it happened in intrepid now, since the report was on the beta image
[22:23] <rubys> charlie-tca: just to be clear, you are talking to me?
[22:23] <charlie-tca> yes
[22:24] <charlie-tca> yeah, rubys
[22:24] <rubys> that bug report (on intrepid beta) shows the boot recovering, mine is slightly different.
[22:24] <rubys> I see it with intrepid (released) and with jaunty (alpha)
[22:24] <rubys> new bug?  Or add the info to the existing bug?
[22:25] <charlie-tca> New bug, but reference this one so someone with experience can see if it is a duplicate
[22:25] <rubys> cool
[22:26] <charlie-tca> Thank you, rubys
[22:40] <rubys> even better: found an exact match that was expiring due to the submitter not trying ogasawara's suggestion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/303673
[22:46] <charlie-tca> :-)