evandhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/107262/ - this is what is really triggering the encryption option crash underneath the blacklisting issue.  Curiously, if I stick a sudo chroot in front of that it works just fine.09:28
evand^ kirkland09:28
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davmor2evand: xivulon: I'm testing hardy.2 and I'm still getting invalid cd could it be that I am running the iso on a dvd re-writable?14:33
davmor2on umenu and wubi is still trying to download14:34
evandis D:/disk/.info (or whatever the CD drive is) present?14:36
davmor2If I run it in cmd it says no recognised app or batch program however I can view it in notepad14:42
CIA-59oem-config: cjwatson * r578 trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):14:43
CIA-59oem-config: Simplify page/step handling; the list of pages is now in BaseFrontend,14:43
CIA-59oem-config: and step indices are calculated directly from that. (This won't quite14:43
CIA-59oem-config: work for Ubiquity as-is, because it can't yet handle multi-page steps14:43
CIA-59oem-config: such as Ubiquity's partitioner.)14:43
davmor2evand: ^14:44
xivulondavmor2: type "%temp%" in explorer and grab the wubi log in there, it should explain why it is downloading (or put it in the pastebin and post the link)14:45
davmor2xivulon: hang on I just tried it again umenu still no joy but wubi is at least reading from the cd now14:49
davmor2evand: .disk/info reads ubuntu 8.04.2 " Hardy Heron" - Release amd64 (20090120) if that helps14:52
CIA-59oem-config: cjwatson * r579 trunk/ (63 files in 3 dirs):14:52
CIA-59oem-config: Reword templates, package descriptions, and the oem-config(8) manual14:52
CIA-59oem-config: page to make it clearer that the first stage of oem-config is for use by14:52
CIA-59oem-config: OEMs, not end users (LP: #48144). Clarify the term "OEM" in a comment14:52
CIA-59oem-config: for translators.14:52
CIA-59oem-config: cjwatson * r580 trunk/debian/control: adjust oem-config-udeb description further to make it a less tempting selection14:53
davmor2just to confirm wubi is reading from the cd quite happily it's just umenu that throws up an invalid cd notice14:53
evandhrm, very odd15:02
evandI'll pull down the .2 CD and see if I can get to the bottom of it.15:04
evand(might be a little while;  virgin cable is nonsense, in my opinion)15:06
davmor2evand: you in the uk then?15:06
evandmoved over this past weekend15:07
davmor2Ah okay not me going mad then :)15:07
evandget to move again this weekend (just up the road a bit)15:07
davmor2evand: if it helps I can drop it on my server :)15:08
evandthanks, but I seem to be getting the same speed just about everywhere.  I wonder if I am being rate limited.15:08
davmor2evand: you'll notice a drop when the schools are out15:10
evandwhat time is that usually?15:10
davmor2about now15:10
davmor2virgin is on demand and it limited.  If you download more than so much between 11am and 9pm I think you drop to 5meg.  But if loads of people in the same area start using iplayer for instance then it cripples the speed across the board15:12
evandyeah, we debated between Virgin and Be Unlimited, but went with the former on account of her already being tied to a virgin account for TV and because of the eventual 50 Mb rollout.  The excessive rate limiting has me a bit worried though, as I suspect I can hit that with a daily DVD download.15:14
cjwatsonheh, discovering the joys of UK net access?15:15
evandoh yeah15:16
davmor2evand: http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html15:16
evandthey had rolled out fiber to the home before I left the states.15:16
evanddavmor2: indeed, I've read through that a few times :)15:17
davmor2evand: I go for a cronjob each morning to grab the latest cd's and dvd's before the blight sets in :)15:17
cjwatsona local mirror might be the answer15:18
* evand files a expense report for a direct link to the datacenter15:18
cjwatson(it's what I do; my ADSL down is pathetic)15:18
evandof cdimage?  Wouldn't James come after me?15:18
cjwatsonof the archive15:18
cjwatsonthen jigdo15:18
evandah, indeed15:18
cjwatsonit's not perfect but it does save me a certain amount of aggro15:18
davmor2you don't get penalised that way unless there are several re-spins in the day :)15:19
cjwatsonyou still need to be able to download the 1.1GB template for DVDs or whatever it is, though15:19
cjwatsonI use http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/jaunty-daily-jigdo which is hacky as well but more or less works15:19
cjwatson*as hell15:19
evandhrm, I'll look into it once I have the desktop and external drives unpacked.  This poor little laptop certainly doesn't have the space for an archive mirror15:20
davmor2cjwatson: run it over night the first time then cronjob it daily from then15:20
cjwatsoner, and rsyncs over ssh *cough*15:20
evandnice; thanks15:20
davmor2evand: just to be certain as soon as I finish this other install I'm running I'll run a test against vista too (I'm expecting it to be the same)15:24
CIA-59ubiquity: evand * r2983 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):15:37
CIA-59ubiquity: Full screen the window when in ONLY_UBIQUITY mode. The extra screen15:37
CIA-59ubiquity: real estate makes the timezone map, among other widgets, easier to15:37
CIA-59ubiquity: use.15:37
davmor2evand:  just to throw a spanner in the works too I just tried m-a the partition knew that xp was on the machine but m-a didn't15:40
lfaraoneevand: although first I need to figure out why the code doesn't run, is the latest bzr version of usb-creator working on intrepid, or do I have to be on jaunty?15:56
lfaraoneTraceback (most recent call last):  File "./bin/usb-creator", line 75, in <module> f = GtkFrontend(options.iso,options.persistent)15:56
lfaraoneTypeError: __init__() takes exactly 1 argument (3 given)15:56
evandis this from bzr branch lp:usb-creator?15:58
lfaraoneevand: yes. All I've done is bzr branch and push to my copy.15:59
evandinteresting.  Does usbcreator/gtk_frontend.py have something other than:15:59
lfaraoneevand: odd, I just rebranched in ~/usb-creator and it works.16:00
evanddef __init__(self,iso=None,persistent=True):16:00
evandah, ok16:00
lfaraoneevand: I was in a directory inside a few symlinks.16:00
* lfaraone hacks.16:03
davmor2evand: m-a says there were no users or operating systems suitable for importing from. :(16:13
davmor2again I'll try with vista16:13
davmor2amd64 yes16:13
evandvista wont work16:14
davmor2oh no it was intrepid were it started too wasn't it :(16:14
evandthere's an outstanding bug where m-a doesn't work properly on amd64, though I have to look into it.16:14
* evand remembers the pet-bug scheme16:14
davmor2evand: okay will try 32bit.  It used to work and I think it did in jaunty testing could be wrong though I lost track16:15
evandok; thanks16:15
davmor2evand: amd64 invalid cd on vista too16:31
evandnoted, still pulling down the cd16:32
davmor2evand: m-a is working on 32bit16:36
evandah, then it's probably bug 21867316:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 218673 in migration-assistant "64bit Migration-Assistant can't see XP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21867316:37
davmor2evand: you'd think I'd remember my own bug wouldn't you D'oh16:38
davmor2you get so used to it working in intrepid + that you forget it didn't once upon a time :)16:41
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tjaaltoncjwatson: have you had time to look at the patch in bug 315363?16:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 315363 in pkgsel "add an option to install "Recommended" packages too" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31536316:43
xivulondavmor2: try to runa umenu --debug16:50
xivulonshould give you lots of messages on what is happening and some explanation16:51
davmor2xivulon: cool thanks for the info16:51
davmor2xivulon: evand: umenu is looking for Ubuntu .....  In .disk/info it's listed as ubuntu.....  will that make a difference?17:08
cjwatsontjaalton: I think it should be pkgsel/install-recommends rather than pkgsel/install_recommends, since pkgsel's other templates use hyphens, and you don't generally need to terminate shell commands with semicolons ('inst_rec="true";'), but otherwise it's fine - want to go ahead and commit that to bzr and upload it?17:43
cjwatson(there's another change in bzr too)17:44
evanddavmor2: I can confirm the umenu bug.18:03
* evand digs18:03
davmor2evand: I haven't bugged it yet was sure what to put it under just made note of it18:03
lfaraoneI know this isn't a devlopment question, but is there a command line parameter to use a SD card as a home directory when booting from the livecd? (I'm trying to test out suspend/resume in jaunty without instaling it)18:30
tjaaltoncjwatson: ah ok, I'll fix that and commit&upload tomorrow, thanks :)18:33
evandlfaraone: add persistent to the kernel command line (f6 at the boot menu), and make sure there is a ext2/ext3 loopback fs named home-rw in the root of the SD card.18:37
evandThe filesystem on the SD card either needs to be vfat, or labeled "home-rw"18:38
evand(the code for this is casper.  bzr branch lp:casper, look at scripts/casper and scripts/casper-helpers)18:39
lfaraoneevand: Thanks.18:45
lfaraoneevand: will jaunty casper support ext4? :)18:46
cjwatson... it hadn't even occurred to me that casper would need to be fixed for ext4, but of course it does18:48
cjwatsonevand: go ahead and make the obvious fixes if you feel like it :)18:48
evandwill do18:50
evandcjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/107418/ - thumbs up?18:57
cjwatsonevand: aye18:57
CIA-59casper: evand * r569 casper/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add support for ext4.18:58
cjwatsonStevenK: what should armel daily builds be set up for - ubuntu-mid, ubuntu-umpc, or both?19:02
lfaraoneevand: ok, so there is a brand new partition label'd "home-rw" on /dev/mmcblk0p1 and I booted with 'persistent' _before_ the "--" in the kernel parameters, should it have been after?19:04
lfaraoneevand: (because right now I don't think it's really being persistent, /dev/mmcblk0p1 is only mounted in /media19:04
evandit wont matter if it's before or after, but anything you put after the -- will be included in the kernel command line on the installed system (should you choose to install)19:06
evanddoes it appear in /sys/block?19:06
lfaraoneevand: Yes, /sys/block/mmcblk019:06
evandhrm, you'll want to do some debugging using set -x in the casper scripts, and break=top in the kernel command line19:09
evandnote that your only editor in that initial initramfs shell is sed19:09
lfaraoneevand: god help me. :_19:10
lfaraoneevand: would being a SDHC card complicate things?19:11
evandheh, I'd give you a hand, but I don't have a free machine to work with at the moment (kvm's usb support is almost absent in Ubuntu)19:11
evandshouldn't, AIUI19:11
lfaraoneevand: ok, and I don't need a loopmounted file if the partition itself is ext(2,3)? (trying to see if this is user error)19:11
evandassuming that the partition is labeled home-rw19:13
lfaraoneevand: it is. /me tries with a USB stick.19:14
cjwatsonStevenK: and what does the form factor want to be - are we talking about a vfat-wrapped livefs, or straight d-i (netboot only, in which case why does antimony need to be involved?), or what?19:14
evandlfaraone: does vol_id say it is?19:14
evandah, ok19:14
evanddinner, back in a bit19:15
lfaraoneevand: No idea, but I used gparted to set the label and it's mounted to "/media/home-rw" automagically (both the sd and the usb)19:15
evandlfaraone: just for sanity's sake, check to make sure vol_id reports it as such, as that's what the actual test uses19:16
evandah actually, if it's ending up as /media/home-rw, it should be fine19:16
evandas I'm fairy certain that code uses vol_id19:16
lfaraoneDoesn't work with USB key either. Now I'm really wondering if it's User Error :)19:19
lfaraoneYep, blkid confirms: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="home-rw" UUID="601309f7-9016-49d4-99dc-5f72931f9d16" TYPE="ext3"19:22
davmor2evand: any joy with the hardy.2 umenu issue?19:47
evandlfaraone: you might want to give a casper-rw file (make the entire filesystem read/write) a try, as that's a often tested code path.20:20
evanddavmor2: none yet, Windows is acting up and not giving me a network connection20:20
davmor2See and people wonder why we stick with linux :)20:21
loolcjwatson: I see d-i failed to build on armel due to size constraints of the nslu2 partitioning; is it ok to just change the partitioning and grant more space to the kernel and less to the initramfs?  It seems the initramfs uses half of its 6 MB and the kernel is more in the 2 MB ballpark than 1.320:32
loolMy understanding is that d-i creates a flashable image, and so I don't think changing the layout is an issue for installed devices, but perhaps there's a hardcoded partition layout on this flash which I don't know about20:33
cjwatsonlool: yeah, I'd seen the build failure and was planning to look tomorrow :-) it sounds plausible but I have not investigated enough yet to be able to venture an opinion ...20:35
lfaraoneevand: ok, I'll look into it.20:36
loolcjwatson: Right, I was hoping you had a clue about this particular hardware; I don't have it myself20:36
evandhrm, appears to be a kvm issue20:43
superm1cjwatson, i was looking at bug 290398, and I tried your comment but got a traceback about NoneType not having an attribute name (which makes sense).  isn't that if statement logic wrong then?  shouldn't it be "if cachedpkg is not None and not cached_pkg(cache, pkg)"?  or is there really a valid case where None could be in self.langpacks?20:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290398 in ubiquity "Incomplete language support even with all languages preseeded" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29039820:59
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CIA-59ubiquity: superm1 * r2984 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):21:41
CIA-59ubiquity: Adjust logic for detecting incomplete language support. Just21:41
CIA-59ubiquity: because a package doesn't "exist" doesn't mean that language support21:41
CIA-59ubiquity: isn't all there. Some packages don't yet provide language-support-XY21:41
CIA-59ubiquity: packages. (LP: #290398)21:41
CIA-59ubiquity: In this particular case, language-support-aa doesn't exist, but it is earlier21:41
CIA-59ubiquity: implicitly declared to exist when language-support-aa was added to the list.21:41
CIA-59wubi: Agostino Russo * r56 trunk/ (60 files in 13 dirs):22:12
CIA-59wubi: * Strip cpuid binary to reduce size22:12
CIA-59wubi: * Set the version and revision via the makefile22:12
CIA-59wubi: * Verify metalink md5 signature using openpgp and python-crypto22:12
CIA-59wubi: * Check md5 of blobs installed within wine during compilation22:12
CIA-59wubi: * Skip console logging when running as a packaged executable (pythonw)22:12
StevenKcjwatson: There's a spec about the armel builds -- they should all be vfat, with no kernel, and ubuntu should be the first thing to set them up for.23:12
StevenKcjwatson: The spec is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ARMImageSelection23:12
cjwatsonStevenK: aha, thanks23:37
cjwatsonStevenK: rather than a --skip-kernel option, how about we just teach livecd.sh directly that armel doesn't have a kernel? that seems safer23:38
StevenKcjwatson: That's what I was thinking, but then debian-cd needs to be taught the same lesson23:38
cjwatsonit needs to be taught something about armel anyway *shrug*23:39
StevenKHeh, fair enough23:39

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