| evand | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/107262/ - this is what is really triggering the encryption option crash underneath the blacklisting issue. Curiously, if I stick a sudo chroot in front of that it works just fine. | 09:28 |
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| evand | ^ kirkland | 09:28 |
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| davmor2 | evand: xivulon: I'm testing hardy.2 and I'm still getting invalid cd could it be that I am running the iso on a dvd re-writable? | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | on umenu and wubi is still trying to download | 14:34 |
| evand | is D:/disk/.info (or whatever the CD drive is) present? | 14:36 |
| evand | err | 14:36 |
| evand | .disk/info | 14:36 |
| davmor2 | If I run it in cmd it says no recognised app or batch program however I can view it in notepad | 14:42 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: cjwatson * r578 trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): | 14:43 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: Simplify page/step handling; the list of pages is now in BaseFrontend, | 14:43 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: and step indices are calculated directly from that. (This won't quite | 14:43 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: work for Ubiquity as-is, because it can't yet handle multi-page steps | 14:43 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: such as Ubiquity's partitioner.) | 14:43 |
| davmor2 | evand: ^ | 14:44 |
| xivulon | davmor2: type "%temp%" in explorer and grab the wubi log in there, it should explain why it is downloading (or put it in the pastebin and post the link) | 14:45 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: hang on I just tried it again umenu still no joy but wubi is at least reading from the cd now | 14:49 |
| davmor2 | evand: .disk/info reads ubuntu 8.04.2 " Hardy Heron" - Release amd64 (20090120) if that helps | 14:52 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: cjwatson * r579 trunk/ (63 files in 3 dirs): | 14:52 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: Reword templates, package descriptions, and the oem-config(8) manual | 14:52 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: page to make it clearer that the first stage of oem-config is for use by | 14:52 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: OEMs, not end users (LP: #48144). Clarify the term "OEM" in a comment | 14:52 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: for translators. | 14:52 |
| CIA-59 | oem-config: cjwatson * r580 trunk/debian/control: adjust oem-config-udeb description further to make it a less tempting selection | 14:53 |
| davmor2 | just to confirm wubi is reading from the cd quite happily it's just umenu that throws up an invalid cd notice | 14:53 |
| evand | hrm, very odd | 15:02 |
| evand | I'll pull down the .2 CD and see if I can get to the bottom of it. | 15:04 |
| evand | (might be a little while; virgin cable is nonsense, in my opinion) | 15:06 |
| davmor2 | evand: you in the uk then? | 15:06 |
| evand | ja | 15:07 |
| evand | moved over this past weekend | 15:07 |
| davmor2 | Ah okay not me going mad then :) | 15:07 |
| evand | get to move again this weekend (just up the road a bit) | 15:07 |
| evand | heh | 15:07 |
| davmor2 | evand: if it helps I can drop it on my server :) | 15:08 |
| evand | thanks, but I seem to be getting the same speed just about everywhere. I wonder if I am being rate limited. | 15:08 |
| davmor2 | evand: you'll notice a drop when the schools are out | 15:10 |
| evand | yikes | 15:10 |
| evand | what time is that usually? | 15:10 |
| davmor2 | about now | 15:10 |
| evand | ah | 15:10 |
| evand | fun | 15:10 |
| davmor2 | virgin is on demand and it limited. If you download more than so much between 11am and 9pm I think you drop to 5meg. But if loads of people in the same area start using iplayer for instance then it cripples the speed across the board | 15:12 |
| evand | yeah, we debated between Virgin and Be Unlimited, but went with the former on account of her already being tied to a virgin account for TV and because of the eventual 50 Mb rollout. The excessive rate limiting has me a bit worried though, as I suspect I can hit that with a daily DVD download. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | heh, discovering the joys of UK net access? | 15:15 |
| evand | oh yeah | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | evand: http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html | 15:16 |
| evand | they had rolled out fiber to the home before I left the states. | 15:16 |
| evand | davmor2: indeed, I've read through that a few times :) | 15:17 |
| davmor2 | evand: I go for a cronjob each morning to grab the latest cd's and dvd's before the blight sets in :) | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | a local mirror might be the answer | 15:18 |
| * evand files a expense report for a direct link to the datacenter | 15:18 | |
| cjwatson | (it's what I do; my ADSL down is pathetic) | 15:18 |
| evand | of cdimage? Wouldn't James come after me? | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | of the archive | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | then jigdo | 15:18 |
| evand | ah, indeed | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | it's not perfect but it does save me a certain amount of aggro | 15:18 |
| davmor2 | you don't get penalised that way unless there are several re-spins in the day :) | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | you still need to be able to download the 1.1GB template for DVDs or whatever it is, though | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | I use http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/jaunty-daily-jigdo which is hacky as well but more or less works | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | *as hell | 15:19 |
| evand | hrm, I'll look into it once I have the desktop and external drives unpacked. This poor little laptop certainly doesn't have the space for an archive mirror | 15:20 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: run it over night the first time then cronjob it daily from then | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | er, and rsyncs over ssh *cough* | 15:20 |
| evand | hahaha | 15:20 |
| evand | nice; thanks | 15:20 |
| davmor2 | evand: just to be certain as soon as I finish this other install I'm running I'll run a test against vista too (I'm expecting it to be the same) | 15:24 |
| evand | ok | 15:24 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: evand * r2983 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 15:37 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: Full screen the window when in ONLY_UBIQUITY mode. The extra screen | 15:37 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: real estate makes the timezone map, among other widgets, easier to | 15:37 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: use. | 15:37 |
| davmor2 | evand: just to throw a spanner in the works too I just tried m-a the partition knew that xp was on the machine but m-a didn't | 15:40 |
| lfaraone | evand: although first I need to figure out why the code doesn't run, is the latest bzr version of usb-creator working on intrepid, or do I have to be on jaunty? | 15:56 |
| lfaraone | Traceback (most recent call last): File "./bin/usb-creator", line 75, in <module> f = GtkFrontend(options.iso,options.persistent) | 15:56 |
| lfaraone | TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 1 argument (3 given) | 15:56 |
| evand | is this from bzr branch lp:usb-creator? | 15:58 |
| lfaraone | evand: yes. All I've done is bzr branch and push to my copy. | 15:59 |
| evand | interesting. Does usbcreator/gtk_frontend.py have something other than: | 15:59 |
| lfaraone | evand: odd, I just rebranched in ~/usb-creator and it works. | 16:00 |
| evand | def __init__(self,iso=None,persistent=True): | 16:00 |
| evand | ah, ok | 16:00 |
| lfaraone | evand: I was in a directory inside a few symlinks. | 16:00 |
| evand | ok | 16:00 |
| * lfaraone hacks. | 16:03 | |
| davmor2 | evand: m-a says there were no users or operating systems suitable for importing from. :( | 16:13 |
| evand | hrm | 16:13 |
| evand | amd64? | 16:13 |
| davmor2 | again I'll try with vista | 16:13 |
| davmor2 | amd64 yes | 16:13 |
| evand | vista wont work | 16:14 |
| davmor2 | oh no it was intrepid were it started too wasn't it :( | 16:14 |
| evand | there's an outstanding bug where m-a doesn't work properly on amd64, though I have to look into it. | 16:14 |
| * evand remembers the pet-bug scheme | 16:14 | |
| davmor2 | evand: okay will try 32bit. It used to work and I think it did in jaunty testing could be wrong though I lost track | 16:15 |
| evand | ok; thanks | 16:15 |
| davmor2 | evand: amd64 invalid cd on vista too | 16:31 |
| evand | noted, still pulling down the cd | 16:32 |
| davmor2 | evand: m-a is working on 32bit | 16:36 |
| evand | ah, then it's probably bug 218673 | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 218673 in migration-assistant "64bit Migration-Assistant can't see XP" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218673 | 16:37 |
| davmor2 | evand: you'd think I'd remember my own bug wouldn't you D'oh | 16:38 |
| evand | :) | 16:39 |
| davmor2 | you get so used to it working in intrepid + that you forget it didn't once upon a time :) | 16:41 |
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| tjaalton | cjwatson: have you had time to look at the patch in bug 315363? | 16:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 315363 in pkgsel "add an option to install "Recommended" packages too" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315363 | 16:43 |
| xivulon | davmor2: try to runa umenu --debug | 16:50 |
| xivulon | should give you lots of messages on what is happening and some explanation | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: cool thanks for the info | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: evand: umenu is looking for Ubuntu ..... In .disk/info it's listed as ubuntu..... will that make a difference? | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | tjaalton: I think it should be pkgsel/install-recommends rather than pkgsel/install_recommends, since pkgsel's other templates use hyphens, and you don't generally need to terminate shell commands with semicolons ('inst_rec="true";'), but otherwise it's fine - want to go ahead and commit that to bzr and upload it? | 17:43 |
| cjwatson | (there's another change in bzr too) | 17:44 |
| evand | davmor2: I can confirm the umenu bug. | 18:03 |
| * evand digs | 18:03 | |
| davmor2 | evand: I haven't bugged it yet was sure what to put it under just made note of it | 18:03 |
| lfaraone | I know this isn't a devlopment question, but is there a command line parameter to use a SD card as a home directory when booting from the livecd? (I'm trying to test out suspend/resume in jaunty without instaling it) | 18:30 |
| tjaalton | cjwatson: ah ok, I'll fix that and commit&upload tomorrow, thanks :) | 18:33 |
| evand | lfaraone: add persistent to the kernel command line (f6 at the boot menu), and make sure there is a ext2/ext3 loopback fs named home-rw in the root of the SD card. | 18:37 |
| evand | The filesystem on the SD card either needs to be vfat, or labeled "home-rw" | 18:38 |
| evand | (the code for this is casper. bzr branch lp:casper, look at scripts/casper and scripts/casper-helpers) | 18:39 |
| lfaraone | evand: Thanks. | 18:45 |
| evand | anytime | 18:45 |
| lfaraone | evand: will jaunty casper support ext4? :) | 18:46 |
| cjwatson | ... it hadn't even occurred to me that casper would need to be fixed for ext4, but of course it does | 18:48 |
| cjwatson | evand: go ahead and make the obvious fixes if you feel like it :) | 18:48 |
| evand | will do | 18:50 |
| lfaraone | Excellent. | 18:52 |
| evand | cjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/107418/ - thumbs up? | 18:57 |
| cjwatson | evand: aye | 18:57 |
| CIA-59 | casper: evand * r569 casper/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add support for ext4. | 18:58 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: what should armel daily builds be set up for - ubuntu-mid, ubuntu-umpc, or both? | 19:02 |
| lfaraone | evand: ok, so there is a brand new partition label'd "home-rw" on /dev/mmcblk0p1 and I booted with 'persistent' _before_ the "--" in the kernel parameters, should it have been after? | 19:04 |
| lfaraone | evand: (because right now I don't think it's really being persistent, /dev/mmcblk0p1 is only mounted in /media | 19:04 |
| evand | it wont matter if it's before or after, but anything you put after the -- will be included in the kernel command line on the installed system (should you choose to install) | 19:06 |
| evand | does it appear in /sys/block? | 19:06 |
| lfaraone | evand: Yes, /sys/block/mmcblk0 | 19:06 |
| evand | hrm, you'll want to do some debugging using set -x in the casper scripts, and break=top in the kernel command line | 19:09 |
| evand | note that your only editor in that initial initramfs shell is sed | 19:09 |
| lfaraone | evand: god help me. :_ | 19:10 |
| lfaraone | evand: would being a SDHC card complicate things? | 19:11 |
| evand | heh, I'd give you a hand, but I don't have a free machine to work with at the moment (kvm's usb support is almost absent in Ubuntu) | 19:11 |
| evand | shouldn't, AIUI | 19:11 |
| lfaraone | evand: ok, and I don't need a loopmounted file if the partition itself is ext(2,3)? (trying to see if this is user error) | 19:11 |
| evand | correct | 19:13 |
| evand | assuming that the partition is labeled home-rw | 19:13 |
| lfaraone | evand: it is. /me tries with a USB stick. | 19:14 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: and what does the form factor want to be - are we talking about a vfat-wrapped livefs, or straight d-i (netboot only, in which case why does antimony need to be involved?), or what? | 19:14 |
| evand | lfaraone: does vol_id say it is? | 19:14 |
| evand | ah, ok | 19:14 |
| evand | dinner, back in a bit | 19:15 |
| lfaraone | evand: No idea, but I used gparted to set the label and it's mounted to "/media/home-rw" automagically (both the sd and the usb) | 19:15 |
| evand | lfaraone: just for sanity's sake, check to make sure vol_id reports it as such, as that's what the actual test uses | 19:16 |
| evand | ah actually, if it's ending up as /media/home-rw, it should be fine | 19:16 |
| evand | as I'm fairy certain that code uses vol_id | 19:16 |
| lfaraone | Doesn't work with USB key either. Now I'm really wondering if it's User Error :) | 19:19 |
| lfaraone | Yep, blkid confirms: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="home-rw" UUID="601309f7-9016-49d4-99dc-5f72931f9d16" TYPE="ext3" | 19:22 |
| davmor2 | evand: any joy with the hardy.2 umenu issue? | 19:47 |
| evand | lfaraone: you might want to give a casper-rw file (make the entire filesystem read/write) a try, as that's a often tested code path. | 20:20 |
| evand | davmor2: none yet, Windows is acting up and not giving me a network connection | 20:20 |
| davmor2 | See and people wonder why we stick with linux :) | 20:21 |
| evand | heh | 20:23 |
| lool | cjwatson: I see d-i failed to build on armel due to size constraints of the nslu2 partitioning; is it ok to just change the partitioning and grant more space to the kernel and less to the initramfs? It seems the initramfs uses half of its 6 MB and the kernel is more in the 2 MB ballpark than 1.3 | 20:32 |
| lool | My understanding is that d-i creates a flashable image, and so I don't think changing the layout is an issue for installed devices, but perhaps there's a hardcoded partition layout on this flash which I don't know about | 20:33 |
| cjwatson | lool: yeah, I'd seen the build failure and was planning to look tomorrow :-) it sounds plausible but I have not investigated enough yet to be able to venture an opinion ... | 20:35 |
| lfaraone | evand: ok, I'll look into it. | 20:36 |
| lool | cjwatson: Right, I was hoping you had a clue about this particular hardware; I don't have it myself | 20:36 |
| evand | hrm, appears to be a kvm issue | 20:43 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, i was looking at bug 290398, and I tried your comment but got a traceback about NoneType not having an attribute name (which makes sense). isn't that if statement logic wrong then? shouldn't it be "if cachedpkg is not None and not cached_pkg(cache, pkg)"? or is there really a valid case where None could be in self.langpacks? | 20:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 290398 in ubiquity "Incomplete language support even with all languages preseeded" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290398 | 20:59 |
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| CIA-59 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2984 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): | 21:41 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: Adjust logic for detecting incomplete language support. Just | 21:41 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: because a package doesn't "exist" doesn't mean that language support | 21:41 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: isn't all there. Some packages don't yet provide language-support-XY | 21:41 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: packages. (LP: #290398) | 21:41 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: In this particular case, language-support-aa doesn't exist, but it is earlier | 21:41 |
| CIA-59 | ubiquity: implicitly declared to exist when language-support-aa was added to the list. | 21:41 |
| CIA-59 | wubi: Agostino Russo * r56 trunk/ (60 files in 13 dirs): | 22:12 |
| CIA-59 | wubi: * Strip cpuid binary to reduce size | 22:12 |
| CIA-59 | wubi: * Set the version and revision via the makefile | 22:12 |
| CIA-59 | wubi: * Verify metalink md5 signature using openpgp and python-crypto | 22:12 |
| CIA-59 | wubi: * Check md5 of blobs installed within wine during compilation | 22:12 |
| CIA-59 | wubi: * Skip console logging when running as a packaged executable (pythonw) | 22:12 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: There's a spec about the armel builds -- they should all be vfat, with no kernel, and ubuntu should be the first thing to set them up for. | 23:12 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: The spec is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ARMImageSelection | 23:12 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: aha, thanks | 23:37 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: rather than a --skip-kernel option, how about we just teach livecd.sh directly that armel doesn't have a kernel? that seems safer | 23:38 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: That's what I was thinking, but then debian-cd needs to be taught the same lesson | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | it needs to be taught something about armel anyway *shrug* | 23:39 |
| StevenK | Heh, fair enough | 23:39 |
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