[00:04] <Batshua> lspci outputs thus with regard to my graphics card: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1)
[00:05] <Batshua> I have connected to my TV with component cables, but the screen is pale, bluish, and off-center.
[01:04] <aegis> hads: you're right... I mean, I user it as an apache server, file server, and media server, but it's just a desktop.
[01:05] <hads> Cool, you should be good to go straight off then.
[01:55] <Batshua> Hm.  Okay, so the graphics card is working well enough now that I haven't a need to worry.  Can anyone give me a bit of handholding on how to properly configure mythtv for a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250?
[01:55] <Batshua> I'm not sure I know what needs to be done.
[02:28] <MythbuntuGuest62> if i install mythbuntu will my remote work without me needing to tweak anything?
[02:30] <MythbuntuGuest62> anyone here?
[02:40] <superm1> i still dunno why the server guys feel so strongly X shouldn't be there, but meh
[03:03] <rhpot1991> weak I think my backend crashed before/during recordings :(
[03:14] <rhpot1991> looks like firewire failure broke it :(
[04:03] <doodz> afternoon.....got mythbuntu 8.10 installed.  mythbackend starts up before network manager and hence TV doesn't work.   How do I make network manager start before mythbackend ?
[04:41]  * Batshua is still seeking any kind advice on how to configure mythtv to play nice with her WinTV-HVR-1250
[05:07] <mishehu> Batshua: wish I could help, but I only own a pvr250
[05:08] <Batshua> Welp, I appreciate the sentiment, at least.
[05:08] <Batshua> I did as much as I could with what I could reasonably find online
[05:08] <mishehu> eyn beAd mah
[05:08] <Batshua> but I don't know the stuff that actually makes it work
[05:08] <Batshua> mah yitlonem adam chai?
[05:08] <mishehu> not to ask a dumb question, but is the device listed as supported in the kernel and mythtv?
[05:08] <Batshua> uh, as far as I can tell, yes.
[05:09] <Batshua> everyone's review of the card was like
[05:09] <mishehu> does it use the ivtv kernel module?
[05:09] <Batshua> zomg, mythtv, plug and play, totally easy!
[05:09] <Batshua> and ... yeah, I'm lost.
[05:09] <Batshua> I haven't the faintest.
[05:09] <Batshua> How would I tell?
[05:09] <mishehu> stam min hasakranut - at datiyah?  batshua lo shem nafots bekehilat haHilonim
[05:10] <Batshua> Dati, lo.
[05:10] <mishehu> Batshua: run `lsmod |grep ivtv` on a shell
[05:10] <Batshua> :/ Ani ... 'transdenominationalit'?
[05:10] <mishehu> if it shows a line like `i2c_i801                9692  0
[05:11] <mishehu> then it's loaded
[05:11] <mishehu> only that it would be ivtv instead of i2c_i801
[05:11] <Batshua> lemme get out of virtualbox
[05:11] <Batshua> I'm fighting with that, too.
[05:11] <Batshua> it WAS working fine...
[05:11] <mishehu> yes, one fight at a time
[05:11] <Batshua> hamatzav lo tov
[05:11] <mishehu> deal with katyusha first then kassam, katyusha has longer range
[05:12] <Batshua> It put out stuff...
[05:12] <Batshua> lemme email it to myself
[05:12] <Batshua> so I can nopaste it
[05:12] <Batshua> or, fff
[05:12] <Batshua> I can nopaste it from there.
[05:14] <Batshua> http://rafb.net/p/RhTpdH14.html
[05:14] <Batshua> Tada!
[05:15] <Batshua> I have NO IDEA what I'm looking at!
[05:15] <mishehu> definitely looks like it's an ivtv supported card, unless you have other capture cards in the same machine
[05:15] <mishehu> ivtv                  168612  0
[05:15] <mishehu> that line right there shows that it's loaded
[05:18] <Batshua> nope I don't have any other cards
[05:18] <Batshua> that's the one.
[05:18] <Batshua> a friend has offered me a spare, but god, not until I have this crap running normally
[05:18] <Batshua> My dad is all like "you said this would take a day"
[05:19] <mishehu> so you should be able to run the mythtv setup and configure it.
[05:19] <Batshua> ... NO, I said building the BOX would take a day.  I said getting the software set up would take, you know, longer.
[05:19] <Batshua> Oh, I can run the setup.
[05:19] <Batshua> I don't know what to put in.
[05:19] <mishehu> unfortunately my myth box is not connected up at the moment so I can't give you a complete step-by=step
[05:19] <mishehu> first go to capture cards in the setup
[05:19] <mishehu> and then add a card
[05:20] <mishehu> and the wizard should allow you to select different models.  select until you find the closest (or exact) match
[05:20] <Batshua> I have no idea which one it should be.  :/
[05:20] <Batshua> that's where I got stuck.
[05:20] <mishehu> btw, tagidi todah leavich Al haOnesh ;-)
[05:20] <Batshua> I also, probed info?  failed to open.
[05:20] <Batshua> whatever that means, it doesn't sound so good.
[05:21] <mishehu> heh no probing,a nd I figured you as a female would think it to be something unpleasant (which is why the Ford Probe didn't sell well to its intended market...)
[05:21] <Batshua> So wrong.
[05:21] <Batshua> So very very wrong.
[05:21] <Batshua> I think MOST people don't like being probed.
[05:22] <Batshua> but what I meant was, the phrase "failed to open" leads me to believe something isn't quite right.
[05:22] <mishehu> sec
[05:22] <Batshua> How do I figure out which card type is most correct?
[05:22] <Batshua> I thought my best guess would be MPEG-2 encoder card
[05:23] <Batshua> but ... I'm not sure of that.
[05:24] <mishehu> hmm that's weird, according to the mythtv wiki, the hvr-1250 is an atsc/qam with an analog tuner (but the analog is not hardware driven, so it's going to be sucky for performance)
[05:25] <mishehu> so let's take a step back for a moment...
[05:25]  * Batshua steps back
[05:25] <mishehu> are you planning to use this for atsc/qam or analog capture?
[05:25] <mishehu> Batshua: it's just a hop to the left...
[05:25] <Batshua> Uh, I was going with cable tv.
[05:25] <mishehu> then a step to the right...
[05:25] <mishehu> Batshua: digital or analog cable tv?
[05:25] <Batshua> I assume that is qam
[05:26] <Batshua> digital, I think
[05:26] <Batshua> but I'm ... not sure.  it's whatever we get in this area.
[05:26] <mishehu> ok, in this case, the card should be configured for atsc/qam, which means it doesn't use the ivtv drivers.
[05:26] <mishehu> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1250
[05:27] <mishehu> Batshua: whereabouts do you live and who is your cable provider?
[05:27] <mishehu> and no, I'm not asking because I want a date ;-)
[05:27] <Batshua> San Antonio, Texas, Time Warner Cable.
[05:27]  * Batshua laughs
[05:27] <mishehu> alek san antonio
[05:27] <mishehu> superm1 and I are up in austin
[05:27] <Batshua> Way, no!
[05:27] <mishehu> eyfo leAzazel yesh felafel taIm bamedinat texas???????????
[05:28] <mishehu> I can't find an edible felafel to save my life down here
[05:28] <Batshua> Uh
[05:28] <Batshua> our cafe had some, not sure they do that anymore
[05:28] <Batshua> some of the middle eastern places are OK
[05:28] <Batshua> you know what I miss?
[05:28] <Batshua> Schwarma.
[05:28] <mishehu> schwarma's ok, but I've never been THAT fond of it.
[05:29] <Batshua> There's a REALLY good place in Boston.  I'd give my left $body_part to get some kosher schwarma
[05:29] <Batshua> but no, it exists not here.
[05:29] <mishehu> I hate it now, I have to wait til I go back to one of the other two homes to eat a decent felafel
[05:29] <Batshua> I'm happier now that I know how to find za'atar
[05:29] <mishehu> ok here's another question you might know - do you know where I can get Strauss Ski krem gvinah levanah?  I can't find it anywhere down here, and I make a cheesecake with it...
[05:29] <Batshua> oh, and labne
[05:30] <Batshua> I haven't the foggies.
[05:30]  * mishehu sighs
[05:30] <Batshua> You realize that San Antonio looks to Austin for supplies, yes?
[05:30] <mishehu> I figured but you probably live here longer than i do
[05:30] <Batshua> Or Houston.  We're not exactly flush with these sort of options ourselve.
[05:30] <Batshua> 14ish years
[05:30] <Batshua> regrettably
[05:30] <mishehu> there ya go.
[05:30] <Batshua> I am aiming to move Bostonward
[05:30] <mishehu> boston?  it's frickin cold up there
[05:30] <Batshua> 75%+ of my friends live there.
[05:31] <Batshua> There is yehudim bamidbar there
[05:31] <Batshua> which I miss terribly
[05:31] <Batshua> yeah
[05:31] <mishehu> yesh yehudim bachimAt kol Hor baOlam...
[05:32] <superm1> mishehu, i'm moving soon hopefully (to another part of austin), and i'm seriously considering ditching time warner in favor of just OTA.  there is so little benefit to having them anymore with all the firewire locked down, and a majority of the cable network shows i watch (SciFi and Comedy Central) being on the intartubes now
[05:32] <superm1> via network's website and/or hulu
[05:32] <Batshua> I don't know if you've heard of them this far south, almost all their stuff is eastward
[05:32] <Batshua> and uh, northward
[05:32] <mishehu> anyway, the problem with getting a direct feed from cable to your hvr card is this - encryption.  the manyakim have it encrypted
[05:32] <mishehu> superm1: the qam is encrypted too no?
[05:33] <superm1> mishehu, well the OTA channels on QAM aren't encrypted
[05:33] <mishehu> Batshua: yah so only the OTA channels you'll pick up, plus maybe a lame public access
[05:33] <Batshua> what's OTA?
[05:33] <superm1> but unlike my previous locale, i dont have to worry about snow, so OTA should be fairly equivalent
[05:33] <mishehu> Batshua: oh that's a company heh
[05:33] <mishehu> I thought you were using the metaphor
[05:33] <mishehu> Batshua: On The Air
[05:34] <Batshua> Ah.
[05:34] <mishehu> broadcast channels
[05:34] <Batshua> well, that'd be better than nothing.
[05:34] <Batshua> The idea is this
[05:34] <mishehu> Batshua: I've lived, besides israel, in chicago, so never heard of 'yehudim bamidbar'
[05:34] <mishehu> superm1: yeah, I have no plans on even signing up for time warner.
[05:35] <mishehu> superm1: I blogged about all this drm crap, and since I have little time to blog at all, that says something about how it annoyed me.
[05:35] <Batshua> It is what I am stuck with, so I will take what I can get
[05:36] <superm1> i think on a matter of principle i'll cancel my current cable subscription before i move telling them it's because of encryption not mentioning because i'm moving :)
[05:37] <mishehu> superm1: that's a good idea
[05:37] <rhpot1991> superm1: at least you have working cable :(
[05:38] <superm1> rhpot1991, comcast being comcastic again?
[05:38] <rhpot1991> my lack of encryption doesn't help that comcast can't fix crap
[05:38] <Batshua> any idea on how to set up this freaking card, y'all?
[05:38] <rhpot1991> superm1: I've had ghosting in my HD and internet that wont hold a connection for ~2-3 months now
[05:39] <superm1> yikes
[05:39] <troy_s> superm1: So I did the research.  No docs for .22 out.  Nothing really.  .22 isn't on the map until they finish it and they aren't clear on the path to finishing it.
[05:39] <troy_s> superm1: So theming is a clusterfeck right now.
[05:39] <superm1> troy_s, well that's less fun
[05:40] <mishehu> s/comcast/cumcast
[05:40] <mishehu> there, fixed that for you
[05:41] <rhpot1991> comcrapstic also acceptable
[05:42] <mishehu> Batshua: if there was some sort of a linux group meeting I'd say bring the machine up and I'd help you out with it
[05:43] <mishehu> but it's kinda hard when I can't get on it.
[05:43] <mishehu> and I don't own an hvr-1250
[05:43] <mishehu> but even superm1 doesn't know what linux groups are around here and he's been around longer than me
[05:44] <mishehu> I'm only 2 1/2 months in austin now ;-)
[05:44] <superm1> well i'm sure they're active and what not around here, i just haven't made any type of effort to meet with them
[05:46] <mishehu> there ya go, you're no more up-to-speed on that than me ;-)
[07:52] <ioky> I am having trouble to getting lirc to work on my mythBox,
[07:52] <ioky> the remote doesn't work, and never got it to work
[07:53] <ioky> mode2 give me "error opening" NO such directory and such
[07:54] <ioky> try both mode2, and mode2 -d /dev/lirc0
[07:54] <ioky> no lucky, any idea guyS?
[09:23] <orduek> hi
[09:23] <orduek> I need some help
[09:23] <orduek> I want to reinstall mythbuntu 8.10 but to save the /var/lib partition
[09:24] <orduek> can I define during installation to use this partition without deleting it?
[09:39] <orduek> hello?
[12:25] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all. I've got three MythBuntu boxes (all 8.10) they all use the same mythtv MySQL database on another machine but one of my MythBuntu boxes shows the blue setup screen every time it's rebooted, then after the frontend comes up it crashes and has to be restarted (then works perfectly) .. ideas on what to look for?
[12:38] <walker> hello
[15:00] <walker> hello
[15:00] <walker> i've setup a mythbuntu server and made a diskless-boot image. But the image just can't start nfs-common? any suggestions?
[15:01] <walker> mythbuntu on intrepid (8.10)
[15:02] <walker> portmap starts ok
[16:17] <walker_> hey, anybody here?
[16:18] <rhpot1991> !ask
[16:18] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[17:30] <phanohanover> hi guys...is there a King of the Myth within you guys? :)
[17:31] <phanohanover> anyone could help me with a simple question?
[17:33] <phanohanover> i would like to know how to apply a patch to my frontend being 3690.patch. (using weekly builds actually)
[20:12] <walker> hey. Does anyone know why rpc.statd (nfs-common) does not work on diskless frontends?
[20:12] <walker> ...and eventually, how do i mount nfs on a diskless frontend...?
[20:13] <walker> running mythbuntu 8.10...
[20:30] <hads> It doesn't? I use NFS on my frontends.
[20:38] <walker> hmm
[20:38] <walker> you installed nfs-common?
[20:41] <hads> Probably, I'd have to check though
[20:41] <walker> simply can't get it to run rpc.statd... it hangs for 2-3 min and then fails...
[20:41] <walker> been googeling all day :S
[20:43] <superm1> try installing portmap
[20:43] <walker> i did... it comes automaticly with nfs-common...
[20:44] <superm1> well i know that i was doing mounting of nfs on my diskless box back when she was a diskless box
[20:44] <superm1> don't remember doing anything fancy
[20:44] <walker> 8.04 then?
[20:45] <walker> found alot on 8.04 not having problems with it...
[20:45] <hads> Yes, I have nfs-common installed.
[20:45] <walker> my nfs-common won't startup  :S
[20:47] <walker> btw, checkbox for allowing unsigned packages won't work either...
[20:53] <superm1> i did it 8.10
[20:53] <superm1> i only switched from diskless because my dead hard drive came back to life all of a sudden
[20:54] <walker> my installation must be fu*d then...
[21:13] <walker> the trailer-plugin isn't in 8.04, right?
[23:09] <renfrew> can anyone tell me what files MCC modifies to set the mythweb username/password?
[23:11] <renfrew> !help mcc
[23:11] <Zinn> !help mcc Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[23:11] <renfrew> !mcc
[23:11] <Zinn> Mythbuntu Control Centre, one of the biggest advantages of Mythbuntu.  You can configure a lot of normally complex tasks from one location.  You can find it in your System menu after installing Mythbuntu.
[23:11] <renfrew> exit