stdinthere wouldn't happen to be a council member awake would there?00:03
naliothstdin: just spit it out :p00:04
stdinnalioth: I just wanted permission to edit the IrcGuidelines wiki slightly00:04
stdinjus fixing links00:04
stdineg: paste.ubuntu-nl.org -> paste.ubuntu.com00:05
naliothyou don't have to ask to fix that kind of thing00:05
_damus_y wus i b&00:05
nalioth_damus_: can we help you?00:06
stdinnalioth: yeah, but "/!\ Do not edit this page without discussing any changes with the Ubuntu IRC council who maintain this page.", so I thought I would ask00:06
_damus_i got b&00:06
naliothstdin: yeah, if you're just changing dead links for live ones, go for it00:06
_damus_i made a joke and00:06
Jack_SparrowI took strong offense to.. <_damus_> HAPPY JAMES EARL RAY APRECIATION DAY EVERY ONE!!!!!!00:06
_damus_got b& wit out worning00:07
_damus_and then i sed i would stop00:07
_damus_but got b& any way00:07
nalioth_damus_: the /topic in #ubuntu provides guidelines for us all  :)00:07
_damus_well im a bit a noob to irc00:08
Jack_SparrowI said stop as I was busy but upon review of what you said I placed the ban00:08
nickrud_++1 Jack_Sparrow 00:08
_damus_so i didnt know00:08
nalioth_damus_: well, i suspect you'll have 'til tomorrow to read up on it00:08
naliothubottu: tell _damus_ about guidelines00:08
ubottu_damus_, please see my private message00:08
naliothubottu: tell _damus_ about coc00:08
Jack_SparrowAnyone can lift it tomorrow.. I will be away00:08
bazhang_damus_, please dont idle here.00:17
bazhang!idle | _damus_ 00:34
ubottu_damus_: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.00:34
ubottuIn ubottu, dmsuperman said: wifi is Wireless documentation may be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs. Building your drivers from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download may work02:06
PiciBah.  That was dumb.02:11
PiciI had been working on a supybot plugin to interface with the google calendar, kept using the ircc meeting as a test case, and somehow missed the meeting myself.02:12
* nickrud laughs02:23
nickrudnot much of a meeting anyway, Pici 02:23
* Flannel wonders if theres a mailing list he's not on.02:24
nickrudFlannel, use the calendar .... 02:25
FlannelRight, but don't the topics on the agenda get discussed?02:27
FlannelPrior to the meeting02:30
FlannelI suppose not.02:30
Flannelubottu tell JamesMowery|away about away02:35
bluesmokebug 103:35
ubottuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout)03:35
bluesmokealright, that's better03:35
mindrapejimmy_hoffa is spamming in #ubuntu... anybody awake?03:38
* talsemgeest is away: Away I go...05:59
Flanneltalsemgeest: Can we help you?05:59
FlannelOr rather, talsemgeest, How can we help you?06:00
* talsemgeest is back (gone 00:23:57)06:23
bluesmoke!away | talsemgeest06:23
ubottutalsemgeest: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»06:23
talsemgeestSorry bluesmoke, disbling now06:23
geniitopyli: Apologies if I stirred the pot somewhat in -offtopic06:24
* nickrud goes off to review -ot06:24
topylinot too poisonous yet06:24
topylii wonder what to do with mikem though06:25
geniiHe just seems irate06:25
topylihe insists he's been singled out. in reality he does as much as he can to attract attention06:26
koleI think 4chan and efnet have warped my mind.... I broke the family friendly guidelines in offtopic... Won't happen again... can I please get back in? (does butterfly eyelashes)06:39
koleWas actually quoting one of my college profs.... He wasn't the cleanest of personalities06:40
topylipersonally i would kick you out of my *pub* for such language, and i don't go to high society pubs06:41
topylii won't lift the ban for a couple of days06:42
kolelanguage.... blowjob?06:42
topylii'm not repeating details here06:43
koleim... confused06:44
topylikole: come back in a couple of days and we'll discuss06:44
bazhangkole, please dont idle here06:45
Myrttigood morning08:42
FlannelHowdy Myrtti 08:42
MyrttiThe role of the Lil Missus is growing on me worrisomely fast... fortunately I love it08:44
topyliwhat worries me more is that's exactly what i did this morning08:52
Myrttido tell08:53
topylimade breakfast, packed lunch, sent lady to work, started multitasking between work and home chores08:54
topylilil missus topyli08:55
Myrttitopyli: so you did basically the same thing I did :-D09:02
topyliyep :)09:02
Myrttioh - here's a public service announcement09:02
MyrttiPeople of the Nordic countries, including Finland!09:03
MyrttiEnglish chocolate is rubbish in comparison to Fazer and Marabou.09:03
Myrttithank you.09:03
MyrttiEnd of annoucement.09:03
* Myrtti glares at Gary 09:04
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topyliwhy didn't i pick a cool nick like that when i started ircing09:05
Flanneltopyli: Guest84258?09:06
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topyliFlannel: yeah09:06
Garydamn irssi borked09:07
Myrttiso the sms from UK to Finland with a Finnish contract is 0.163 Eur each09:11
NafalloMyrtti: if you can find an Ikea, they'll have Marabou09:12
MyrttiNafallo: yes dear, I know09:13
topyliand tasty meatballs09:13
topyliand ärtsoppa09:13
MyrttiI could make that myself too09:13
MyrttiDuncan has a slowcooker09:13
topylitakes time09:13
Myrttitrue, but that's what nights and days are for09:14
MyrttiI love BBC09:15
Myrttibut really. Just for comparison, I bought a small bar of Cadburys Dairy Milk yesterday09:16
Myrttiit was almost as bad as the chocolate in the Christmas calendars09:17
MyrttiI guess I'm a spoilt child09:18
NafalloMyrtti: try Wispa :-)09:18
topyligood chocolate never spoiled a child!09:18
Nafallohehe. I'm going to Sweden this weekend.09:18
MyrttiI'm not actually that big fan of chocolate09:18
Nafallopretty sure I'll spend about £50 on chocolate ;-)09:19
topylii need a cabinet for my printer, disk and router. they're ugly on the table in the hallway. means i'll get to go to ikea with the lady09:21
Myrttithis place needs about everything09:22
topylii'm thinking we should leave in the morning, have the 2 euro breakfast, go shopping, eat meatballs for lunch, have a couple of beers, get the cabinet and go home09:22
topyliikea theme day09:22
Myrttisounds nice09:23
* Flannel doesn't really understand the charm of Ikea.09:23
topylii like the food :)09:23
MyrttiI feel like I'm living in Ikea currently, well, the atmosphere of it09:23
Myrttishopping frenzy...09:24
Myrttithings are cheap, there's more options from where to choose09:24
MyrttiI saw a cake yesterday that was in the shape of a gaming console controller with Super Mario pictures of it09:25
FlannelWEeeee wikis down09:25
Myrttinever see anything like that in Finnish stores09:25
NafalloFlannel: huh?09:25
FlannelNafallo: wiki.ubuntu.com?09:25
NafalloFlannel: nope. up.09:25
Flannelh.u.c/c is up though09:25
FlannelPsh.  Now it's up.09:25
Flannela minute ago I got a 50309:25
topyliikea packaging is awesome. you see a 2m x 5m bookshelf and buy it. you go fetch the item and it's packed in a matchbox09:26
FlannelIts... just... flat packing....09:26
FlannelAgain, /me doesn't understand the charm of Ikea.  Maybe it's just me.09:26
topylii swear there's a little bit of magic involved09:26
Myrttiit's the downstairs of Ikea that makes me go crazy09:26
Myrttiall the little knickknacks for cheap09:27
Myrttiok, now the BBC show is starting to piss me off09:28
topyliperhaps i should see if ikea actually has my cabinet before i go there09:29
topylino "server cabinet" department there :(09:31
jussi01topyli: Myrtti: I can keep tuhina! :D09:41
Myrttijussi01: wheeeeee!09:42
topyligah. i need something like this but that's too good and fancy: http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/1014669109:44
Tm_Tjussi01: hooray (:)09:44
topylii would also need to break it a little, take off the back to keep airflow. that looks like it would collapse if i did that09:45
Flanneltopyli: You'd have to cut holes in the back10:04
topyliyeah better than removing in whole :)10:05
topylii don't want to pay for locks and the slide door and wheels and all that though10:05
FlannelWhat do you need it for?10:06
FlannelWhat are the parts you do want ;)10:06
topylilet me find a picture of the current situation :)10:07
topylithere's now a hard disk too10:08
topylione shelf for the printer, one shelf for the router and disk, and clean top to throw stuff on10:08
topyliclosed cabinet10:08
topyliit's next to our front door, so we would like to throw keys and phones and wallets on top of the cabinet of course10:09
FlannelI say just make one yourself!10:09
topylitrue, can't be too difficult even for me10:09
FlannelEspecially if you just do it rather spartanly.  Few strategically sized pieces of wood (six or seven) a few wood screws, etc.10:10
Myrttiwhee! payday!10:10
FlannelUnless you want fancy.  In which case, ditch the wood screws, go with proper mounting of crossbeams, find a router, and varnish10:11
topylidoesn't need to be fancy at all, but it can't be ugly either10:11
Flannelwell, and use proper wood, instead of particle board10:11
topylii could even just make the shelves, the sides could be cloth10:15
Myrttitopyli: sounds like http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/5011475410:17
topyliMyrtti: close10:18
topylione shelf too few. although i could hang the router and the disk under the top one10:18
FlannelIs it just me... or does that last one look crooked?10:18
MyrttiI'd personally get http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/00086683 in white10:19
Myrttibecause keeping the spare paper etc behind lock and key is a good idea10:19
topyliFlannel: it does :)10:19
Myrttiit is10:19
Myrttiand having wheels underneath is also a good idea10:21
topylithe lock wouldn't be useful for me, but that doesn't look very bad10:21
Myrttiit definitely needs a door though10:22
MyrttiIt looks less cluttered if you can hide papers and stuff behind them10:23
topyliyes, although a hanging cloth does the trick too10:24
topylialmost: http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/3008921310:28
topylimeh. as if i had anything to say about buying furniture anyway :)10:31
MyrttiMissus decides, and that's good10:31
topyliit's perfect, since she's not so eager to compain afterwards10:36
* Tm_T huggggles topyli && Myrtti 12:30
MyrttiI haz a new phone number while in UK12:31
Tm_Twhen was next CC-meeting?12:31
GaryMyrtti: are you gonna come visit?13:18
Picijrib: heh. ask a silly question, get a silly answer (re: pressing down 10 times)13:23
MyrttiI don't know13:23
jribI got "It's hard to delete line 10" in pm now...13:25
jribI'm actually happy he's on gentoo, I was really wondering whe he compiled nautilus13:32
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* genii brews a new urn of fair-trade coffee16:17
LjL[17:17:38] [478] #ubuntu letter_z*!*@* Channel ban list is full16:17
Myrttidare I say the 1ops?16:18
Myrtti!ops-#ubuntu | YO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!16:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ops-#ubuntu16:19
Myrtti!ops | YO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!16:19
ubottuYO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!16:19
ubottuMyrtti called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (YO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!)16:19
MyrttiI guess having a kebab today would be right and proper16:20
Tm_TMyrtti: I have no bans there IIRC16:22
MyrttiTm_T: prolly not16:22
nixternalhey, if someone has time, remove me from the Ubuntu ops list as I don't sit in that channel any more and really don't have the time to dedicate to it16:22
bazhangMyrtti, done. All *4* of them.16:36
bazhanga great number of the bans seem to be freenode bans; what's that indicate? Floodbots?16:38
bazhangLjL, !!16:38
LjLit just means that, since the bans were set, servers have split badly16:38
LjLwhen they relinked, the bans were backported onto the split server, but the information about the banning user was lost in the process16:38
LjLconnect to another server, and you'll find that the bans that show up like that change16:39
bazhangLjL, so some of them might be myself or others?16:39
LjLyes they might16:39
LjLtwo ways to know. 1) check the bantracker 2) connect to other servers and hope you find one where the ban appears with its correct owner16:40
bazhangso should we clear out those as well? they seem to be the greater majority in the list16:40
LjLboth are a pain16:40
LjLthey definitely aren't the majority on the server i'm on16:40
LjLthere's 20 of them here16:40
LjLi'm on calvino.freenode.net16:40
bazhangon sagan there are near to a hundred 16:42
LjLbazhang: sagan probably rebooted relatively recently16:45
bazhangLjL, so would you recommend I try to match the btracker with what I see in xchat banlist window and do it that way, or is there some way that knowledgeable folk do it16:46
LjLbazhang: no, i'd recommend you open another connection to, say, calvino16:46
LjL(or there might be an even better server... but anyway the ones on calvino look like ones that should stay set, to me)16:46
bazhangLjL, that sounds more difficult to me than the method I mentioned :)16:47
LjLbazhang: why? the BT method involves matching each ban against the BT, while switching windows all the time16:48
LjLbazhang: if you just connect to another server, you can open up the banlist in there, type your name in the search box, and remove those16:48
bazhangLjL, never actually used irc until I got onto #ubuntu irc16:48
LjLbazhang: of course if you actually want to *check* what the bans are about in the BT before removing them, then just use the BT16:49
LjLi don't, i just remove old ones that aren't redirects to special channels and that don't blatantly look like static IPs ;)16:49
bazhangLjL, well not had any recently, and if they are a continued problem then can just deal with them again.16:49
bazhangeg kelvin91116:50
LjLbazhang: then tell your client to open another server tab, or whatever it calls it, type /server calvino.freenode.net, then identify as yourself (/ns identify bazhang password, including the bazhang since you're not connecting from your nickname), and get on removing16:50
bazhangLjL, okay thanks16:51
bazhangLjL, wow; many on calvino16:59
bazhangLjL, I cant seem to access reynolds though16:59
bazhangsays it is a misspelling16:59
LjLbazhang: reynolds is not a leaf node, it's an "internal" server16:59
bazhangLjL, okay; any others I might try?17:00
LjLbazhang: everything in /links if you want, but there's probably not much need17:00
bazhangLjL, much appreciated :)17:00
bazhangMyrtti, correction: all *19* of them :)17:01
MyrttiI haven't got any myself17:02
bazhangI saw a couple on calvino for you17:03
Myrttiyeah, but I checked the bantracker and they're permbans17:03
Seeker`nalioth: you about?17:29
naliothSeeker`: sometimes :)17:30
jpdsnalioth: Please kick Mootbot to life.17:31
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ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, AtomicSpark said: !opera is Opera is an advanced and free (as in beer) web browser. Install it via Applications > Add/Remove..., after you enable the partner repository under System > Administration > Software Sources, Third-Party Software tab. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser18:46
ubottuIn ubottu, mossmon said: ubottu, what is ubuntu18:49
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser18:57
Tm_Thi bluesmoke how can we help you today?18:57
Tm_Toh, its you again18:57
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* jussi01 goes to set a ban on bluesmoke :P18:59
jussi01Tm_T: I can op myself :D19:00
Tm_Tjussi01: it wasn't me19:00
* Pici either19:00
Tm_Tjussi01: it wasn't me!19:00
* Tm_T hides19:00
jussi01[20:59:57] <ChanServ:ChanServ> You have been opped on #ubuntu-ops by Tm_T19:00
Tm_Tjussi01: just kidding, sowwy son19:01
* jussi01 wins...19:01
Tm_TPici: thank you sir19:01
jussi01ikonia: ping20:07
elkbuntusomeone can clear out my bans for me. bancleariing at confs is dangerous20:19
tomawall of them?20:20
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.23:11
Flannelrmrf city in -ot23:13
Nafallothere we go :-)23:22
Nafallonow we just need jpds back online ;-)23:22
* mneptok tootles off for home23:45
FlannelMmmm, Emergency Mode23:58

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