* ScottK wonders if someone who actually knows something about QT might look at Bug #12853800:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 128538 in qt4-x11 "Qt4/gdb: Cannot step into Qt4 functions (dup-of: 261380)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12853800:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261380 in qt4-x11 "Packages have invalid .gnu_debuglink" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26138000:11
RiddellScottK: those are true, don't have any ideas on what to do about it though :(00:16
ScottKNew data type?01:49
ScottKGoes with oddint?01:49
seeleSput: doh, for some reason my channel didn't light up when you said my name01:53
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EagleScreenincorrect working of kpackagekit/policykit-kde02:48
EagleScreeni think there is a problem with one of them02:48
ScottKEagleScreen: They were just uploaded today, so likely.  Please file bugs.02:50
EagleScreenkpackagekit call policykit-kde to autenticate for installing packages, but kpackagekit gives you autentication error before you type password in policykit-kde dialog02:50
EagleScreenwill jaunty use kpackagekit as its default package manager?02:52
ScottKThat's the plan.02:53
EagleScreeni hope it them to be enough mature02:54
EagleScreeni hope for it to be enough mature, sorry02:54
vorianScottK: I am a bit confused about something with the security update.  The version that is in intrepid is 2.6 ( i saw that 2.8.1 was backported today ) 2.8.0 does not exist in intrepid03:04
vorianor am I missing something?03:05
vorian(which could be the case due to lack of sleep and food)03:05
voriananyone here running jaunty with an amd64? (that could test someting)03:17
vorianconfrim, actually03:17
seelei thought jaunty on amd64 was broken?03:18
seelei thought i saw someone say it yesterday but i could be wrong03:18
vorianworks for me™03:18
voriansomeone reported a segfault bug on kdenlive that i cannot reproduce03:19
EagleScreeni have filed bug LP #31941903:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 319419 in evolution "evolution cannot authenticate with imap server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31941903:22
EagleScreen!bug 31941903:22
EagleScreensorry I typed it wrongly03:23
EagleScreenLP #31945903:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 319459 in kpackagekit "kpackagekit reports an autentication error before you type password in policykit-kde dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31945903:24
ScottKvorian: What's the question?03:35
ScottKThe patch needs to be integrated into a security upload for 2.603:35
ScottKFixing it in backports doesn't count.03:35
voriani understand, for some reason i was thinking you waned me to patch the 2.8.0 version03:36
ScottKGot it straight now then, I guess03:37
vorianYes, thanks03:37
vorianScottK: is the t-test125 relevant to this version?03:48
ScottKThe test that's in the patch tests for the issue we're fixing.03:48
vorianScottK: i just sent you ane email04:37
* ScottK looks04:37
ScottKvorian: Looks like you've been greylisted.  Any idea how long until your MTA retries?04:39
voriannope, it's gmail04:40
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freeflyingThe Akonadi control process is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup.06:07
freeflyingI still have this error message in jaunty, anyone dose?06:08
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Lure_can somebody try to open this Qt book in PDF with okular: http://www.qtrac.eu/C++-GUI-Programming-with-Qt-4-1st-ed.zip09:13
Lure_it coredumps for me :-(09:13
Tm_TI'll try09:14
ArbyLure_: works  fine here09:14
Lure_Arby: intrepid or jaunty? kde 4.2/rc?09:14
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ArbyLure_: okular 0.7.2, KDE4.1.209:15
Tm_TArby: wanha!09:16
Arbyhardy actually09:16
LureArby: this is so last year ;-)09:16
LureArby: but thanks for testing09:16
ArbyLure: you didn't ask that, you asked if it works :)09:16
LureArby: true, and I want to know if older versions work fine09:17
Tm_TLure: works here09:17
LureArby: so that I can submit proper bug report09:17
LureTm_T: what do you have?09:17
ArbyTHis is my work PC I'm just about to run the upgrade since I have the office to myself today09:17
Tm_TLure: Intrepid, with KDE 4.2.60-svn09:17
LureTm_T: I am actually suspecting popler library from jaunty...09:17
LureTm_T: it says "Error: Illegal annotation destination09:18
Lurethen coredump09:18
Tm_TLure: could be09:18
Tm_TLure: 64bit?09:18
LureTm_T: yes09:18
Tm_Thmm, 32bit here09:18
Tm_Tso dunno if that makes difference too09:18
LureTm_T: poppler is much newer in jaunty (0.8.7 vs. 0.10.3)09:20
Lureany jaunty user around?09:20
freeflyingLure: yes09:21
Lurefreeflying: cay you try open this PDF with okular: http://www.qtrac.eu/C++-GUI-Programming-with-Qt-4-1st-ed.zip09:22
freeflyingLure: can not donwload :)09:22
Lurefreeflying: ups, I do not think 50MB is suitable for e-mailing too ;-)09:22
freeflyingLure: get it via a server in french, need some time09:23
Tm_Tfreeflying: hmm, firewall again?09:24
freeflyingTm_T: seems not gfwed :)09:25
freeflyinggot the ip address resolved09:26
freeflyingLure: got the same error09:28
Lurefreeflying: thanks for testing09:28
Lureit looks like it is poppler bug09:28
Lurewill submit it to b.fd.o09:29
Lurebug submited: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1966909:38
ubottuFreedesktop bug 19669 in qt4 frontend "okular/poppler crash in Poppler::convertAnnotColor when opening large PDF (Qt book)" [Major,New]09:39
Lurethanks everyone for testing09:39
freeflyingLure: its not because of the size of PDF file09:43
freeflyingjust opened a 81M pdf, works fine09:44
Lurefreeflying: yes, it looks like it has some annotations that causes crash (from stack trace)09:44
Lurefreeflying: and it is clear regression, so I hope it will get adequate attention09:45
* Lure wants to read Qt PDT books ;-)09:47
Tonio_hi there09:52
Lurehi To09:54
Lureups, he left before my Tab key cathed him ;-)09:55
jussi01is the kdesvn broke?10:01
jussi01jussi@aaaa:~/networkmanager$ svn up10:01
jussi01svn: Can't connect to host 'anonsvn.kde.org': Connection refused10:01
a|wenjussi01: think i saw something on the kde planet about a mirror server being down10:06
jussi01a|wen: ahh, thanks10:06
a|wenjussi01: http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/bobulate/index.php?/archives/697-AnonSVN-down.html10:07
jussi01a|wen: thanks10:07
Tm_Tjussi01: yes anonsvn is down, and its mirrors too10:13
Tm_Tjussi01: so without account no svn10:13
Riddellapachelogger: pitti is looking for new archive admins10:52
Tonio_hum... plasmoid-network-manager stoped working for me :)10:59
Tonio_Riddell: not replacing knetworkmanager was the good decision... it seems we'll have to work a bit for the plasma applet to work right...10:59
Tonio_Riddell: I may contact lubo to get a few informations about his plans11:01
RiddellTonio_: dood, kpackagekit worked perfectly11:02
jussi01hi Tonio_11:02
Tonio_Riddell: great :)11:02
Tonio_Riddell: did packagekit got fixed yesterday ?11:02
Riddelldunno, but it works this morning11:03
Tonio_Riddell: good :)11:03
Tonio_Riddell: well no change on my side :) doesn't work11:03
Tonio_Riddell: but that's packagekit issue11:03
Riddellpolicykit-kde doesn't work though11:05
Tonio_Riddell: doesn't ?11:06
Tonio_Riddell: what problem do you have with it ? authentication or set permissions ?11:07
mrvanesRiddell: any progress on kopete/msn issue? I managed to login to msn exactly once, yesterday. After that, no luck...11:07
Tonio_hey jussi0111:07
Tonio_mrvanes: same with me :)11:08
* mrvanes shakes hands ;)11:09
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mrvanesTonio_: you aware of hal --configure problems?11:10
Tonio_Riddell: since kpackagekit is broken for me, I can't test the authentication part.... but the policykit-kde kcm module lets me set permissions without problems11:10
Tonio_mrvanes: not that I know of.... what's the point ?11:10
mrvanes# dpkg --configure hal11:10
mrvanesSetting up hal (0.5.12~rc1+git20090120-0ubuntu1) ...11:10
mrvanes * Reloading system message bus config...                                                                                                                 [ OK ]11:10
mrvanes * Starting Hardware abstraction layer haldinvoke-rc.d: initscript hal, action "start" failed.11:10
mrvanesdpkg: error processing hal (--configure):11:10
mrvanes subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 111:10
mrvanesErrors were encountered while processing:11:11
mrvanes hal11:11
Tonio_ouch... that's bad :)11:11
Tonio_mrvanes: better ask the maintainer, since a postinst script may be broken11:11
mrvanesbut hal runs... nevertheless11:11
mrvanesok, is (s)he around here?11:11
Tonio_mrvanes: yeah, that's juste the "configure" step of dpkg that causes problems, but the files are installed...11:11
Tonio_mrvanes: last uploader is pitty11:12
Tonio_pitti, sorry11:12
mrvaneshmm... no pitti around... will mail then11:13
RiddellTonio_: removed policykit-gnome, added policykit-kde, rebooted, ran kpackagekit and now it installs without asking anything11:14
Tonio_Riddell: look at the permissions....11:14
RiddellTonio_: oh hmm, it fails to authenticate first time but second time I try it works without popping up the dialogue11:15
Tonio_Riddell: policykit can be made to ask for the password or not11:15
Tonio_yeah, I have the same thing11:15
Tonio_error and then working11:15
Tonio_but it's "mostly" working11:15
Riddellit pops up the "authentication failed" first11:15
Riddellthen on top of that the policykit dialogue appears11:16
Tonio_yup, that's exactly what I got when kpackagekit was working for me :)11:16
Riddellso it thinks it has failed before it even asks for the password11:16
Tonio_Riddell: hard to say...11:16
Riddellbut as you say "mostly" working11:17
RiddellTonio_: we should write the MIRs11:17
Tonio_yep, that can be fixed, for sure...11:17
Riddellthose things take so long to process we need to start ASAP11:17
Tonio_Riddell: I can write the MIRs, so for kpackagekit, libpackagekit-qt, and policykit, right ?11:18
RiddellTonio_: yes11:18
RiddellTonio_: oh well, and package kit generally11:18
Tonio_Riddell: I'm sure we can get some help for the little bugs from upstream, since we'll be the first debian based distro using them :)11:18
Tonio_Riddell: I'll probably wait for 4.2 to be release before pinging them11:18
Tonio_Riddell: hum, I may ping glatzor or asac for this part ;)11:19
Riddellglatzor is your man11:20
Riddellbut just write them and check with glatzor before poking the MIR people11:20
Tonio_Riddell: hum asac worked on the packaging afaics :) at least, last changelog output is from him :)11:20
Tonio_Riddell: I'll see with glatzor.... starting writting them today11:21
Tonio_you're welcome :)11:21
* Tonio_ hopes the plasmoid for network-manager will be ready for jaunty.... sounds like won't happen...11:21
xerosison the other hand Tonio_, it works better for me than knetworkmanager did, that's with WPA too11:25
Tonio_xerosis: yeah, but that's very random depending the people...11:29
Tonio_xerosis: worked for me for 3 days, and then toped working without any reason or any change...11:29
* Riddell uploads mysql 5.011:31
mrvanesTonio: managed to trace configure errror back to hald crashing:11:41
mrvaneshald[15114]: segfault at 20 ip 000000000042f63b sp 00007fffe8a23040 error 4 in hald[400000+57000]11:41
mrvaneshal start doesn't complain, but it doesn't run11:41
mrvanesso --configure was right after all!11:42
Nightroseapachelogger: Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok-nightly-kdelibs_20090120+svn914292-0neon1_i386.deb : trying to overwrite `/opt/amarok-nightly/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindPulseAudio.cmake', which is also in package amarok-nightly-kdebase11:51
Tonio_Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPolicykit-KDE11:56
Tonio_Riddell: any comments ? so that I can copycat for the other ones :)11:56
Riddell"No binaries running as root or suid/sgid." well the whole point is that it does run stuff as root11:59
RiddellTonio_: missing Upstream bug tracke12:00
RiddellTonio_: missing Upstream bug tracker12:00
RiddellTonio_: missing sections 7 to 10 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportTemplate12:01
Tonio_Riddell: oki12:18
Tonio_Riddell: well the root stuff is done within policykit which is already in main...12:19
Riddellright enough12:21
Tonio_Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPolicykit-KDE12:27
Tonio_Riddell: if that's okay for you, then I'll make the other ones toonight probably, as I have to go back to work right now :)12:28
RiddellTonio_: "Upstream BTS" should point to a more useful URL12:28
Tonio_Riddell: hum....12:29
Tonio_Riddell: like https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=policykit-kde12:30
RiddellTonio_: policykit-kde isn't actually registered in bugs.kde.org12:30
Tonio_Riddell: that's my point ;)12:30
Riddellso quite possibly there isn't a bug tracker12:30
Tonio_Riddell: well there is a bug already, look at my url12:30
Riddellthat's dolphin12:31
Tonio_I know ;)12:31
Tonio_there is no policykit-kde product...12:31
Tonio_Riddell: what to do in that case ?12:32
RiddellTonio_: "No upstream bug tracker known"12:35
Riddellglatzor: ping, we want to write MIRs for packagekit12:36
Riddellto get kpackagekit in12:36
glatzorRiddell, great12:36
glatzorRiddell, I uploaded 0.3.13 to the ppa yesterday12:37
Tonio_glatzor: I'll do the kpackagekit and libpackagekit-qt toonight...12:37
glatzorRiddell, I would suggest not switching to the 0.4 branch for jaunty.12:37
glatzorTonio_, libpackagekit-qt is part of PackageKit12:38
Riddellglatzor: right, stick with what works :)12:38
Tonio_glatzor: well not the same source package btw ;)12:39
glatzorRiddell, Tonio_ the Fedora release is a little bit later and there have been some late changes in previous cycles.12:39
glatzorTonio_, you are wrong.12:39
Tonio_glatzor: hu ? well not for our archives at least...12:40
Tonio_glatzor: apt-cache show libpackagekit-qt212:40
Tonio_glatzor: unless I'm missing something...12:40
glatzorTonio_, libpackagekit-qt11 and libpackagekit-qt-dev are binary packages of my packagekit source package12:40
Tonio_glatzor: hum then we have a problem :)12:41
Tonio_Riddell: :)12:41
RiddellW: Unable to locate package libpackagekit-qt1112:41
Tonio_glatzor: I guess you're taling about your ppa right ?12:42
Tonio_glatzor: atm, kpackagekit usually shipped with a libpackagekit-qt tarball, so we packaged it along with it...12:42
Tonio_Riddell: if it's been directly in packagekit source package, maybe we should consider removing our package from the archives no ?12:44
Riddellthe packagekit archive confuses me12:45
Riddellwhat are the git repositories and which one has libpackagekit-qt?12:45
Tonio_Riddell: I usually get libpackagekit from git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/packagekit/PackageKit-Qt12:48
Tonio_glatzor: ?12:48
apacheloggerNightrose: dpkg --i -force-overwrite12:48
Nightroseapachelogger: i know ;-)   just wanted to let you know12:49
apacheloggerNightrose: it's not like I would do anything about it :P12:49
glatzorRiddell, Tonio_ This repository seems to be abandoned.12:49
Nightroseapachelogger: noted ;-)12:49
glatzorRiddell, Tonio_ the qt part was merged some time ago into the main repository12:50
Tonio_glatzor: right, which is a good point in fact12:50
Tonio_Riddell: you're the archive admin, and I have to go back to work, so I'm leaving you on that point :)12:51
apacheloggerNightrose: did you shoot nevi or something?12:51
Nightroseapachelogger: nevi?12:51
apacheloggerNightrose: neversfelde12:51
Nightrosefwiw i didn't shoot anyone lately ;-)12:52
Nightrosenot knowingly at least12:52
apacheloggerI see12:52
* apachelogger logs in to revu12:52
glatzorTonio_, Riddell, the kpackagekit package in the ppa is already build against libpackagekit-qt-dev of packagekit12:53
glatzorRiddell, I add you to the packagekit team12:53
Riddellthat's fine then, glatzor will upload the new packagekit at some point and it'll overwrite out libpackagekit-qt-dev12:54
Tonio_glatzor: may I susbscribe too please ? I'll probably mostly maintain and test the kpackagekit part :)12:54
glatzorTonio_, what is your launchpad name?12:54
Tonio_glatzor: tonio12:55
glatzorTonio_, bzr branch lp:~packagekit/packagekit/kpackagekit-jaunty12:55
Tonio_glatzor: thanks12:56
glatzorTonio_, welcome ot ~packagekit12:56
Tonio_glatzor: super thanks12:56
Tonio_glatzor: I'll look at the branch and the packaging, then will update the package along with your next upload12:57
Tonio_glatzor: do you have kpackagekit packages on your ppa to ?12:57
glatzorTonio_, right.12:57
glatzorTonio_, I told you so yesterday :)12:58
Tonio_glatzor: oh right :) sorry12:58
Tonio_glatzor: there are a couple of interesting commits since your initial packaging on kde svn...13:02
Tonio_glatzor: I'll give a test and eventually commit if all is fine...13:02
apacheloggerTonio_: didn't you package partitionmanager?13:08
Tonio_apachelogger: nope, that's on my todo anyway ;)13:08
Tonio_apachelogger: but the priority is given to packagekit and so on atm :)13:08
Tonio_apachelogger: I'll be on my contrib day (aka paid to work on ubuntu ^^) on friday, so I may work on it then13:09
apacheloggerTonio_: already on revu it is13:09
apacheloggerthat is why I am wondering :)13:10
Tonio_apachelogger: well I'll just have to revu + fix ;)13:10
Tonio_apachelogger: sounds good :)13:10
* apachelogger gives it a review13:10
apacheloggerTonio_: looks like decent packaging actually13:13
apacheloggerRiddell: do you think it would be a good idea to apply for archive admin? ... since my spare time is rather limited these days13:14
Riddellapachelogger: not sure, I heard that only New queue is available through launchpad but New queue is a place where messing up can lead to serious trouble13:15
apacheloggerwell, it's not like I would mess things up, I just wouldn't get very much done ;-)13:18
* apachelogger got chewing gum stuck to his lips13:19
apacheloggernow that must look weird13:19
apacheloggervore: hola13:19
apacheloggerjjesse: salut13:19
voriani see we had something happen two hours ago13:20
apacheloggervorian: we had=13:20
* apachelogger is seriously distracted by that gum on his lips13:20
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Tonio_Riddell: just performed a couple of test...13:38
Tonio_Riddell: glatzor kpackaging is a more recent svn snapshot that mine...13:38
Tonio_Riddell: I just tested he ppa packages and it all works, very nicelly13:38
Tonio_Riddell: we should probably wait for those to reach the repos to write the MIRs right ?13:39
Tonio_glatzor: what are your plans for upload ?13:39
Tonio_glatzor: anf FYI the current kpackagekit svn snapshot ftbfs, I'll look at this13:39
RiddellTonio_: no, don't wait to write the MIR, MIRs take bloody ages to get processed we need to start the process toot sweet13:40
apacheloggerkde-nightly-kdeplasma-addons-dbg kde-nightly-kdesdk13:41
apacheloggerkde-nightly-kdesdk-dbg kde-nightly-kdesupport13:41
Tonio_Riddell: right so I'll do them toonight then, as promissed13:43
apacheloggerRiddell: are there any plans on speeding up the MIR process?13:44
* apachelogger also notes that kgrubeditor was demoted13:44
seelebecause it doesnt have a maintainer?13:45
seeleor because it doesnt support grub2?13:45
Riddellapachelogger: there are some new members of ubuntu-mir, doesn't seem to have helped13:45
apacheloggerbecause it doesn't integrate well with the system13:46
apacheloggeror rather with the phony way config updates are implemented :P13:46
seeleah, i dont know anything about that, heh13:46
Tonio_Riddell: also, there are some usability issues :)13:46
* apachelogger didn't follow the discussion13:47
Tonio_like "the following packages will be removed", and you have to click the "install now" buton to apply :)13:47
seeleTonio_: kpackagekit?13:47
apacheloggerbut IIRC the reasons for demoting sounded a lot like workaround-our-broken-implementation13:47
Tonio_seele: yeah ;)13:47
Tonio_seele: it all works with the ppa version13:47
seeleTonio_: yeah.. colomar and i came up with a whole list of stuff.. and the maintainer doesnt want to maintain it13:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ping13:47
Tonio_seele: that's bad..... really bad...13:48
seeleapachelogger: big surprised13:48
seeleTonio_: yeah, so we have two broken choices. unmaintained crap adept or unmaintained less-crap but still crap kpackagekit13:48
Tonio_seele: what did the maintainer say then ? perfect like this ? :)13:48
Tonio_seele: well we can patch for the strings causing problem for example13:49
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: pong13:49
seeleTonio_: no, that he didn't have time and he was more concerned with the backend than the front end13:49
apacheloggershall I write a ruby package manager :P13:49
jjesseTonio_: read the email on the kubuntu-devel list13:49
* seele will be back in 2 hours.. meeting time13:49
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: we should dewatch arts13:49
jjessehe thought the changes were only for kubuntu not kde as a whole13:49
apacheloggerRiddell: we can compile kdelibs4 without arts, can't we?13:49
Tonio_seele, jjesse: will read, thanks13:49
* apachelogger thinks dropping arts from the archives might make sense13:49
JontheEchidnayeah, aRts is certifiably unmainatined and probably shouldn't be in main if at all possible13:50
jjesseTonio_: i offered to work out a help manual and will work on that with the maintainer of kpackagekit13:51
jjessewhich is more then i got in adept13:51
Riddellapachelogger: should be able to yes13:53
apachelogger  --without-arts          build without aRts default=no13:53
apacheloggerRiddell: giving it a try13:53
Riddelldunno if that'll need lots of other stuff to be recompiled13:53
apachelogger  nateon13:53
apachelogger  kvirc13:53
apachelogger  knights13:53
apacheloggerother stuff that depends on arts13:54
apacheloggerkvirc should be replaced with KDE 4 port I suppose13:54
ScottKrgreening was working on a kvirc svn snapshot13:56
Riddellapt-cache rdepends libartsc013:56
ScottKIt seems reasonably usable to me.13:56
apacheloggerRiddell: I guess we should rebuild all KDE's without arts and file bugs for the other packages13:59
apacheloggerthere isn't really a point in supporting arts considering we have no KDE 3 desktop anymore13:59
* apachelogger thinks coordinating this would be a perfect minion job ... if we only had minions -.-14:01
apacheloggerah, right14:01
apacheloggerArby: ping14:02
* Arby looks nervous and checks the exits14:02
Arbyapachelogger: pong14:03
apacheloggerArby: wanna coordinate the arts rebuilds?14:03
ArbyI can try14:03
apacheloggersetup a wiki page ... announce on the list ... get the packages assigned to somebody14:03
Arbygive me the five minute summary of what needs to happen14:04
Arbybesides that^^14:04
ArbyI have to go in a sec14:04
apacheloggerthat is everything :P14:04
apacheloggerArby: just run apt-cache rdepends on the libarts* and arts* packages14:05
apacheloggercreate a wiki table of that for status and assignment tracking14:05
apacheloggerthen spread the word14:05
Arbyand once the packages are assigned what do people need to do with them14:05
apacheloggerArby: make them build without arts14:06
Arbywhy do I feel like that's harder than it sounds14:06
Arbywhat's the time frame for this?14:07
* apachelogger is tired of arts bugs14:07
apacheloggerArby: making them build without arts should  be a matter of removing libarts-dev as build-dep and tetsbuiildng14:07
apachelogger...in some cases update .install files14:08
* apachelogger eats his afternoon snack and watches kdelibs build14:08
Arbyhmm, I suspect there will be many more questions but right now I need to go do work14:09
Arbyback later14:09
apacheloggerNightrose: did I already like poke you with bug 25708914:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257089 in amarok "amarok does not save the playlist between computer restarts" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25708914:15
Nightroseand i pasted it in dev14:15
apacheloggerand no one cared?14:15
Nightroselooks like it14:15
* apachelogger wouldn't either :P14:16
apacheloggerI find that feature rather useless anyway14:16
apacheloggerespeciall with Amarok 214:17
apacheloggerRiddell: did you testbuild mysql-5.1?14:18
Riddellapachelogger: I did with my patch, you said you were going to do more to it14:19
apacheloggerRiddell: where did it install sql-bench to for you?14:20
apacheloggerends up in /usr here14:21
apacheloggermakefile.in says: benchdir_root = $(prefix)14:21
apacheloggerRiddell: nevermind, that also happened before our changes14:22
apacheloggergood thing we don't use autotools14:22
Riddellapachelogger: yes same here14:23
Riddellapachelogger: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2009-January/002575.html mentioned mysql14:24
apacheloggerRiddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/four.debdiff if you want to counter check14:26
apacheloggerI basically just changed/removed some leftovers of usr/share/mysql and added the amarok-mysql conflicts/replaces14:27
ScottKapachelogger: You should add to Arby's task to check reverse-build-depends of any -dev packages arts provides.14:29
Riddellapachelogger: looks good other than whitespace changes14:30
ScottKOddly enough when I was hunting down kdelibs for KDE3 stuff that helps.14:30
Riddellapachelogger: post it to the ubuntu-server list and ping zul and mathiaz14:30
ArbyScottK noted14:31
ScottKArby: Great.  Thought you were gone.14:32
ArbyI'll be in and out all afternoon14:32
apacheloggerRiddell: gotta subscribe first ... kdelibs seems to build just fine without arts14:34
* apachelogger thinks he should prevent it from building api docs since we don't install them anyway14:34
glatzorRiddell, for the packagekit MIR we should perhaps reduce the numbers of packages. AFAIK you don't want to support the gstreamer installer, mozilla plugin or smart and yum backend14:49
ScottKIs Ubuntu using packagekit this cycle?14:50
glatzorScottK, Kubuntu as the main frontend and Ubuntu most likely only for jockey14:51
ScottKI see.14:51
* ScottK was hoping they'd do the MIR, but maybe not.14:51
rgreeningTonio__: did you figure out the packagekit issue yet?14:51
vorianNCommander: ping14:55
wesley_Hi guys14:57
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NCommandervore, semiping15:47
vorianNCommander: can your update of plasmoid-toggle-composite wait until friday please?15:48
NCommandervorian, sure15:50
vorianthanks a million :)15:51
* seele is disgusted with how many additional packages are required just for firefox15:52
seele76 newly installed, 131MB of disk space15:53
jussi01seele: you should install with --no-install-recommends15:56
jussi01then you dont get half of gnome15:56
* jussi01 hates it also15:56
mok0I have just reviewed a package that ships the Troll-Tech libraries qtbindings_core, qtbindings_gui, and qtbindings_xml -- where can they be found in Ubuntu?16:00
jussi01heya rgreening16:01
rgreeninghey :)16:01
rgreeningwas just testing a python irc library...16:02
rgreeningI was thinking on a future project - plasmoid for irc16:02
jussi01rgreening: oooh, a quassel plasmoid :D16:02
jussi01hrm... what gmail notify apps are there for kde4 anyone know?16:09
jussi01theres an idea... a gmail notification plasmoid! :D16:09
jussi01who wants to write it! :D16:09
* vorian points to jussi01 16:09
davmor2jussi01: well volunteered16:09
jussi01hrm... who wants to mentor me?16:10
* jussi01 has no idea where to sgtart even16:11
davmor2jussi01: I find at the beginning helps ;)16:12
JontheEchidnathere was a gmail notification plasmoid on kde-look for KDE 4.0.x16:13
JontheEchidnathere is an "Incoming Message" plasmoid that is similar, but I don't know if it works with gmail16:14
JontheEchidnait would most definitely work with kmail or whatever16:14
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Riddellapachelogger: meh, he wants to solve both problems at once, was hoping we could just get our stuff sorted toot sweet16:40
apacheloggeryeah, me too, after all we need to get it into main as well :S16:41
ScottKOK.  I tried.16:44
RiddellScottK: thanks, we can wait a couple of days I guess16:45
apacheloggerKDE needs an option for "only hide notifications when I tell you to"16:47
* apachelogger only glimpses 30% of the notifications16:47
* ScottK considers apachelogger needs to apply to the User Experience team and help create some wonderful.16:47
ScottKhttp://spf.pastebin.com/m7b7e14bd for context16:48
* seele sighs16:52
glatzorRiddell: you should only promote packagekit, packagekit-backend-apt, libpackagekit-(qt|glib)(11|-dev) and python-packagekit for main inclusion.16:53
jussi01seele: whats bothering you? :(16:55
seelejussi01: i was sighing at the notification chat.  it never dies!16:56
rgreeningsmile seele, we still luv ya16:56
seeleapachelogger: so contextual customization is one of those things that is really necessary in a notification system16:56
* vorian finds the pink coloreded number in irssi enough of a notification17:01
jussi01vorian: meh :P17:02
vorianyep, it worked17:02
EagleScreenis bluetooth officialy broken in Kuubntu 8.10?17:05
RiddellEagleScreen: yes17:06
EagleScreenany workaround?17:07
Riddellpeople had patches, not sure what happened to getting them doing anything17:08
RiddellTm_T? JontheEchidna?17:08
jussi01Riddell: how is it in jaunty atm?17:10
EagleScreeni havent tested in jaunty17:11
EagleScreenI obtain this in intrepid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107846/17:12
EagleScreenglatzor what happens with kpackagekit inclusion?17:14
wesley_Kmail doesnt work that good, setting it up is a pain in rhe ass17:14
Riddelljussi01: I've no idea17:17
RiddellEagleScreen: we're working on it17:17
Riddellwesley_: oh well17:17
EagleScreenwell done, thanks17:18
wesley_But kmail can act as icon to inform you if ou got new msg ( p unstable right noe )17:19
wesley_okay I think konqueror is the one causing the unstablenisch17:22
wesley_It is using  1 gb of my memory17:23
ScottKRiddell: I'm working on a SRU for kdebluetooth in 8.10.17:24
wesley_Probaly because i was searhing on google maps17:24
wesley_Is there a way to investigate cpu usage ? Systemmonitor isnt that logical17:27
RiddellScottK: and tonio is doing jaunty?17:28
ScottKTonio__ did already.17:28
Riddellso he did17:29
Riddelljussi01: ^^ go test17:29
jussi01Riddell: oooh, cool. ScottK where are they?17:30
ScottKJaunty is uploaded.17:30
* ScottK is still in the middle of Intrepid.17:30
Riddelljussi01: kdebase-workspace and kdebluetooth17:30
jussi01Riddell: Im currently moving, so Ive only the intrepid machine. ScottK, please let me know when intrepid is done17:31
ScottKWill do.17:31
ScottKRiddell and apachelogger: Did you see <mathiaz> ScottK: If I don't come up with something by Friday, you can upload it.17:37
* ScottK takes 'you' to mean apachelogger.17:37
apacheloggerScottK: yes, I already have the package ready :P17:37
Tonio__rgreening: for kpackagekit, the point is that our tarballs are outdated..17:37
Tonio__rgreening: you can use the "packagekit" ppa and it'll all work like a charm (technically at least...)17:38
* ScottK notes he didn't say Friday where, so that could be pretty soon.17:38
Tonio__rgreening: couple of small issues on the policykit-kde side too17:38
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RiddellScottK: Quebec I'd guess17:39
* ScottK figures AET.17:39
ScottKAs soon as it's Friday anywhere, we're free to upload.17:40
RiddellScottK: feeling frustrated are we? :)17:40
Tonio_ScottK fyi, the latest kdebluetooth disables the kbluelock...17:40
vorianso that's about 3:45 am EST thursday, right?17:41
Tonio_ScottK is that of any problem for an SRU ? cause you'll break a feature...17:41
ScottKTonio_: Since we have no bluetooth now, any working at all is progress.17:43
rgreeningTonio_: ok. Do you know the ppa?17:43
* ScottK considers a song to the tune of "Do you know the way to San Jose".17:43
Tonio_rgreening: Connection now manages Setting's lifespan.17:44
ScottKDoesn't quite work though.17:44
Tonio_rgreening: this commit could be fixing our networkmanager problem :)17:44
Tonio_rgreening: testing ;)17:44
rgreeningTonio_: cool. can we get a new package uploaded?17:44
rgreeningTonio_: :P17:44
Tonio_rgreening: yup17:48
Tonio_rgreening: btw, as it is mostly broken atm, I may consider provide daily updates for that one ;)17:49
rgreeningTonio_: whee!!!! :)17:49
Tonio_rgreening: testing the build localy and uploading17:49
rgreeningI don't mind it blowing up on me, so I'll be able to test it as well.17:50
rgreeningI'm most of the way thought updating the qt4-x11 build for 4.5.0-beta117:52
smarterrgreening: it'll be available for intrepid too? :]17:55
rgreeningsmarter: I'll be building specifically for jaunty. but I don't see why it wouldn't work for intrepid... I'll upload to my PPA to test/build and if all goes well, cp to testing or experimental later...17:57
jussi01Tonio_: did you break the nm plasmoid in svn? or should I be cleaning my builddir17:59
RiddellI doubt Tonio_ did anything in svn18:01
RiddellI don't think he has an account18:01
jussi01ahh...ok :)18:01
Riddellsebas on the other hand, just broke it18:01
* jussi01 then decides to wait and see if sebas unbreaks it18:05
Tonio_Riddell: policykit-kde changelog : Fixed bug that was causing auth fail before even trying18:14
Tonio_Riddell: packaging and commiting18:14
Tonio_jussi01 I can confirm it is broken atm...18:21
Tonio_jussi01 a CMakeList.txt file is craped...18:21
jussi01Tonio_: ahh18:27
RiddellTonio_: rock on18:29
Riddellcor, aseigo is on #ubuntu-meeting18:30
seelewhat meeting is going on atm?18:30
ScottKEdubuntu even18:31
seeleah hah18:32
Tonio_Riddell: uploaded18:32
Riddellbacklog http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m5e4bfd018:33
seelethat interesting, huh?18:33
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.18:36
apachelogger bug 31401618:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 314016 in kdesdk "Kate is useless for editing code which contains hebrew or arabic" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31401618:50
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that bug travelled quite a bit ;-)18:51
NCommandervorian, ping?18:52
vorianNCommander: we already chatted (about plasmoid-toggle-composition)18:55
ScottKaseigo does a good sell.18:56
apacheloggerwhat is he selling?18:57
seelekde edu18:59
Riddelland plasma19:02
Riddellanyone feel like updating akonadi server tonight?19:04
ScottKWhich sucks way less than edkubuntu19:04
vorianRiddell: already on it19:04
JontheEchidnakubuntu session in #ubuntu-classroom19:04
Riddellvorian: oh lovely, could you change mysql-server-5.0 to mysql-server-core-5.0  in the build-deps and depends ?19:05
jussi01ScottK: why not kubuntu-edu ?19:05
vorianRiddell: sure thing19:06
* ScottK wonders why Sput is filing bugs in LP on old PPA versions of quassel.19:06
rgreeningor kubedutu (pronounced 'could bed you too' and said with a smarmy brooklyn accent)19:25
SputScottK: I don't...19:26
SputI have never files a LP bug in my life19:26
ScottKSput: Odd.  I guessed Bug #319697 was you.19:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 319697 in quassel "quassel crashes" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31969719:27
ScottKI quess sputnik isn't an entirely obscure choice for a nick.19:28
SputScottK: I'd be Sputnick if I used my full nick :)19:29
Sputalso I don't even use kubuntu :)19:29
ScottKWell that's what I thought.  It was confusing.19:29
Sputhehe :D I bet19:29
ScottKBTW, did you see my crash bug?19:29
Sputprobably not, I've been busy today19:30
ScottKOK, well it's in Redmine when you get to it.19:30
apacheloggerdj bobo!19:31
apacheloggerNightrose: what do we think of shoutcast?19:31
Nightroseapachelogger: don't use them tbh19:32
Nightrosei mostly listetn o my own stuff19:32
apacheloggermy own stuff is becoming boring :P19:34
apacheloggerNightrose: any music recommendations?19:35
apacheloggerNightrose: can't you amarok like make an album of the week service? :P19:35
Nightroselisten to some counting crows19:36
Nightroseor yussuf19:36
apacheloggerall listened too often19:36
* apachelogger needs new and fresh and funky music19:36
* ScottK hands apachelogger some James Brown.19:36
apacheloggerI am not sure how that relates to new fresh and funky :P19:37
* vorian sends akonadi apachelogger's way19:37
apacheloggeroh dar19:37
ScottKCould be new to you.19:37
apacheloggerScottK: hm, possibly19:37
* apachelogger could also explore the emo kind of stuff19:38
ScottKThat's really the only relevant metric for this case I think.19:38
\shwhoever provided the kde4.2rcX packages for intrepid...nice work all...thx for that...it looks awesome and runs much better then the old intrepid version19:39
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Schnappi (Original Schnappi Mix)" by Gruttmann, Iris19:39
apachelogger\sh: kde 4.1 was crap :P19:39
* Sput listens to shoutcast all the time19:52
Sputamarok has this nice shoutcast directory...19:52
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 31968319:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 319683 in amarok "Phonom Error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31968319:52
apacheloggerSput: IMHO the dir sux19:52
Sputwell yeah19:52
* apachelogger thinks about rejecting that bug because he never heared of phonom :P19:52
Sputbut it's enough to put some streams into your pl without bothering much19:52
apacheloggerSput: not if you are me and very elite :P19:53
Sputah right, forgot that one :p19:53
apacheloggerNightrose: amarok is one big pool for stupid and displaced bug reports19:53
* apachelogger doesn't even wana triage there19:54
Nightroseapachelogger: tell me about it...19:54
Nightrosemost of them are sooooooooooooo useless19:54
apachelogger"I confirm that problem. I use gutsy,amarok 1.4.7 kde 3.5.8."19:54
apacheloggerwhy not reproduce it in Amarok 1.1.0 while we are at it19:55
apacheloggersure must be worth something19:55
apacheloggerjonny is having is talk right now19:56
apacheloggerlike no-one told me :P19:56
apacheloggeroh dear19:57
apacheloggerquilt push -a && quilt import -p2 -P kde_fix_something.diff ../upstream.patch && quilt refresh && quilt push && quilt pop -a19:59
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ^19:59
apacheloggerrefresh and push are for ensuring the -p2 is correct19:59
apachelogger... for kdebase one would need -p319:59
JontheEchidnayeah yeah, all I had gotten to was "dpkg-source -x *dsc" when they told me I was on :P20:00
apacheloggerbeing prepared is everything I guess ^_^20:02
JontheEchidnayeah, stupid daylight saving time20:03
RiddellJontheEchidna: now I know how to use quilt!20:03
* apachelogger thinks JontheEchidna should write a quilt tutorial20:03
jjesse+1 from me20:04
JontheEchidnait's more like ln -s debian/patches patches; quilt push -a; quilt new patchname.diff; quilt add affectedfiles.cpp20:04
JontheEchidnaquilt import -p2 -P kde_fix_something.diff ../upstream.patch && quilt refresh && quilt push && quilt pop -a20:04
JontheEchidnabut the way I outlined in the talk works too, I guess :P20:05
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: no20:05
apacheloggerquilt import will make new and add pointless20:05
apacheloggerit will import the patch as it is20:05
JontheEchidnaI didn't know that ^_^20:05
apachelogger-p2 will ensure it applies properly with the different structure of KDE svn patches20:05
JontheEchidnaI've been doing it the hard way then, eheh20:06
apacheloggerbut works as well :)20:06
JontheEchidnaobviously, since I have gotten upstream to yell at me :P20:07
apacheloggeryeah, true :P20:09
JontheEchidnahere I am, teaching impressionable minds to ruin KDE software :D20:10
JontheEchidnaaccomplishing what years of GObjects, mono and Qt licensing FUD couldn't20:11
apacheloggertea => hot => tongue => burnt20:14
* Nightrose bows before the mighty JontheEchidna20:14
* apachelogger goes gets the cuddles20:14
* Nightrose cuddles apachelogger20:14
apacheloggerlike what do you know ... me asking for cuddles but getting the respond "not noooow, I is watching ze tee veee"20:16
apacheloggerin exactly that kind of inglish :P20:16
* apachelogger must remember never to ask in english for cuddles20:16
apacheloggergood thing I got Nightrose20:16
* apachelogger hugs the Nightrose20:16
ScottKWell I got the 4.1.4 kdebase-workspace patch for bluetooth to apply.20:16
ScottKquilt import was total fail for me at any level.20:17
ScottKquilt add [long list of files I grepped out of the patch]20:17
ScottKpatch -p0 <../solid-bluetooth.diff20:17
ScottKquilt refresh20:17
ScottKdid just fine.20:17
apacheloggerScottK: you need to understand the magics of quilt import before putting it to use :P20:17
ScottKRight, well the magic of quilt has me deeply missing dpatch-edit-patch.20:18
apacheloggerhow about batpatch20:18
apacheloggerit is catchy20:18
apacheloggerit is shorter20:18
Stecchinocould anyone with KDE 4.1.3 kubuntu packages and amarok please try thid: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18133820:18
apacheloggerit is ruby20:18
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by KDE: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error (http://bugs.kde.org/xml.cgi?id=181338)20:18
Stecchinodamn, forgot. b.k.o is broken for everyone20:19
apacheloggerworks for me20:19
apacheloggerbut I don't have 4.1.3 ;-)20:19
JontheEchidnab.k.o worksforme20:19
apacheloggerScottK: do you have amarok2?20:20
JontheEchidnaunfortunately I can't test at the moment because of mysql issues20:20
ScottKThere's a reason I made vorian do all the work.20:20
ScottKPlus Kmail is essential for me.20:20
apacheloggerStecchino: we are fresh out of 4.1.3 installations with amarok2 it seems20:21
Stecchinoseems so20:21
JontheEchidnaand I'm running 4.2 anyway20:21
vorianJontheEchidna: do you have amd64?20:21
apacheloggerStecchino: maybe you find someone in #kubuntu or #kubuntu-testers20:21
voriani need someone with jaunty and amd64 please20:22
vorianJontheEchidna: are you on jaunty?20:22
JontheEchidnaI just can't install amarok because I need kmail20:22
voriancan you see if the newest version of kdenlive segfaults on you20:23
vorianmine does not20:23
Tonio_rgreening: lots of commits coming along networkmanager20:23
Tonio_sounds good :)20:23
JontheEchidnaaiee, /me turns on --no-install-recommends20:23
Tonio_rgreening: still ftbfs atm, so I'll wait for the build to stabilize to provide an update20:23
rgreeningTonio_: that's awesome.20:25
StecchinoJontheEchidna: kmail != amarok?20:25
Stecchinoexuses me should be KMail ^ Amarok (XOR)20:26
JontheEchidnaStecchino: akonadi needs one version of mysql, kmail needs another20:26
JontheEchidnakmail needs akonadi20:26
ScottKSee the Jaunty Alpha 3 release notes20:26
Stecchinoamarok needs another you mean. I see, only on jaunty a problem?20:26
JontheEchidnaakonadi needs one version of mysql, amarok needs another20:26
apacheloggerJontheEchidna is seriously messed up20:26
JontheEchidnayes, I am messed up today20:26
StecchinoJontheEchidna: nenver mind, Wednesdays will do that to you20:27
apachelogger~order brain for JontheEchidna20:27
* kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW!20:27
JontheEchidnavorian: ok, just installed it and the startup wizard went just fine20:27
vorianhmm, ok20:28
ScottKJontheEchidna: A new brain?20:28
JontheEchidnano, kdenlive20:28
apachelogger*scratching head*20:29
apacheloggerScottK: kds would hide the startup wizard of a new brain I suppose20:29
Tonio_rgreening: well I hope it'll come to a point we can consider shipping with it.... I wouldn't do that atm :)20:30
Tonio_anyone knows if the archives are frozen ?20:30
ScottKJust switch and then point everyone who screams upstream for motivation.20:30
ScottKTonio_: No.20:30
ScottKThey aren't frozen, not I don't know.20:30
Tonio_I uploaded policykit-kde, one hour ago, about, and I still wait for the soyuz email....20:30
ScottKMight be broken.  Different issue.20:31
apacheloggermaybe soyuz is hungry again20:31
Tonio_hum...... i there a way to see the soyuz queue at some point ?20:31
rgreeningTonio_: yeah. Though I think the intent (from the author) is to make it available for distros shipping this spring (like us) and then more general in KDE 4.320:32
Tonio_let work on k3b now ;)20:32
Tonio_yep, the all target (ppp/3g, ad hoc and so on) is for 4.320:32
Tonio_but just standard wireless/cable connections for 4.2 would be nice20:33
Tonio_as for bluetooth, lots of things are gonna be added to 4.3, now they reached the kde3 functional level....20:33
Tonio_I just want something that works for the basics :)20:33
apacheloggernew cup of tea => hot => tongue => burnt => Nightrose!20:33
* apachelogger is close to start crying20:33
apacheloggerdarn that hurts20:34
Tonio_but of course, the "superkickass" release will be our next LTS, not before20:34
Tonio_apachelogger: ^_^20:35
Tonio_tea is dangerous, true that...20:35
Riddellsue whoever made it20:35
Tonio_a senseo coffee machine as one advantage : temperature is always the same20:35
apacheloggerRiddell: might seriously beat me up if I do that .... or worse ;-)20:36
Tonio_apachelogger: isn't the microwave oven to blame ?20:36
apacheloggerhm, not according to austrian law20:36
Tonio_Riddell: what does to "sue" men ?20:37
Tonio_aka blame ?20:37
smarterTonio_: faire un procés20:37
apacheloggeroui oui20:37
Tonio_smarter: ho ! speaking french ? :)20:37
smarterTonio_: bah oui :p20:38
apacheloggeroh dear20:38
Tonio_we didn't do a french kubuntu day for so long....20:38
apacheloggersomeone needs to write Tonio_ an update20:38
Tonio_smarter: je savais pas que t'étais français :)20:38
apacheloggerTonio_: was replaced by german chitchat at some point20:38
apacheloggerthen that got replaced by english chitchat20:38
Tonio_apachelogger: yeah, I figured that out :)20:38
wesley_Is there something that needs to be tested ? Kind off doing nonthing right now20:39
apacheloggerand now we are not productive anymore because everyone is just chatting20:39
jussi01Tonio_: ping me if you notice a fix for nm gets uploaded20:39
Tonio_wesley_: I could have tel you to check out policykit-kde, bu soyuz sucks at some points....20:39
smarterfrench kubuntu day?20:39
* Nightrose hugs apachelogger20:39
Nightrosepoor guy20:39
Tonio_jussi01 there is a fix for the cmake issue, but now there is a code problem :)20:39
apacheloggersmarter: that is a day @ kubuntu -> french20:39
wesley_stupid mac pro mouse has only opne button20:39
jussi01Tonio_: hahaha :D ok. if you notice it gets to a working state... :D20:40
ScottKwesley_: Two finger drag on the touchpad and click gives you right click.20:40
Tonio_smarter: when raphink was arround, since riddell speaks an very good french, it happened we used to go english all day long20:40
apacheloggerNightrose: I was more hoping for the cuddles, but fair enough *rug* <.--- all new word shortening rehug ... also looks more rubylike ;-)20:40
Tonio_jussi01 yep, sounds nice :)20:40
wesley_its a mouse, not a touhpad20:41
Nightroseapachelogger: haha ok *cuddle*20:41
raphinkTonio_: tu racontes quoi? :p20:41
smarterah, I probably wasn't there at that time :P20:41
apacheloggerraphink is suddenly alive again20:41
raphinkno I'm busy but my IRC client pinged me :p20:41
Tonio_raphink: that you moved away a long time ago !!20:41
raphinkTonio_: what?20:42
Tonio_well you're not very talkative anymore :)20:42
apacheloggerright, like not social at all20:42
apacheloggerand that in this channel20:42
Tonio_isn't that true ? :)20:42
apacheloggerif we had an oven we would even do baking in here20:42
Tonio_raphink: I still love you, don't mind :)20:42
wesley_Ive kind of a work around for the missing right click, just use short clicks20:43
apachelogger~script add oven m.reply "oh! uh! time for some baking ... hooray :D"20:43
kubotulemme take care of that for you20:43
kubotuoh! uh! time for some baking ... hooray :D20:43
apacheloggernow we can do baking :D20:43
ScottKapachelogger: Would you please assign a minion to file a bug about updating Intrepid to 4.1.4?20:44
apacheloggerXand3r: ping20:44
apacheloggerScottK: I'd prefer someone writing a batscritp for that20:44
Xand3rapachelogger: pong20:45
apacheloggerXand3r: wanna do some work again...? ;-)20:45
ScottKapachelogger: Once I upload the bluetooth stuff I expect we'll have a lot of testers and I'd like us to be prepared.20:45
jpdsScottK: Do you have time for a main upload?20:45
apacheloggerlong term target should be a script though :P20:45
Tonio_ScottK I tested quickly, seems to work correctly, at least for 4.220:46
ScottKjpds: Maybe.  What is it?20:46
smarterScottK: delegating people to delegate work, nice trick :P20:46
Xand3rapachelogger: wich work? and how hard i have to work?20:46
jpdsScottK: bug #319656 - patch attached.20:46
* ScottK has a bluetooth phone to test with.20:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 319656 in nmap "nmap script engine error" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31965620:46
apacheloggerXand3r: file 20 bug reports to track update testing of KDE 4.1.420:46
smarterhey jpds20:46
apacheloggerScottK: got a 4.1.3 example bug at hand?20:46
jpdshey smarter20:47
ScottKapachelogger: Riddell filed the last set and had some magic LP url to find them all.20:47
apacheloggeryeah, the url to bugs he filed ;-)20:47
vorianHI JPDS!!!20:47
jpdsvorian: HELLO.20:47
apacheloggerCAPS LOCK DAY AGAIN?20:48
jjessezomg ponies20:48
apacheloggerUNICORNS > PONIES20:48
Xand3rapachelogger: c the query please20:48
ScottKjpds: That would take more thinking than I have available right now.20:48
wesley_yeah working mouse20:48
jpdsScottK: OK; I'll subscribe u-m-s20:49
wesley_so whats the policykit-kde  ? ive installed but whjere do i find it20:50
wesley_yeah plasma crashed20:57
apacheloggerScottK: Xand3r does that filing20:59
apacheloggerfeel free to beat him up if he doesn't finish in time :P20:59
ScottKapachelogger: Great.21:00
ScottKXand3r: Thank you.21:00
Xand3rwhat? wich time? you didn't said something about time21:00
ScottKDepends on how long I spend wrestling with quilt, but soon is good.21:00
Xand3rhmm kk21:01
neversfeldeis it possible to package beta software?21:03
neversfeldeor better is it possible to upload it to jaunty21:04
vorianyes, and always21:05
neversfeldek, then I will try to make a package of kshutdown21:08
Tonio_any testers for k3b ?21:10
Tonio_I have no cds there to make tests...21:10
neversfeldeTonio_: is there an intrepid version?21:11
Tonio_neversfelde: nope :/21:12
Tonio_neversfelde: but I can send you the source package if interested...21:12
jjesseTonio_: is k3b a kde4 port?21:12
Tonio_jjesse: yes !21:12
Tonio_for jaunty, quick and dirty package atm, needs revu and splitting, but seems to start, at least for me :)21:12
neversfeldeTonio_: ok, why not. I have two cds left :)21:12
jjesseTonio_: i can try it tongiht21:13
rgreeningTonio_: I will21:13
Tonio_rgreening, jjesse: http://planetemu.net/temp/k3b21:13
rgreeningTonio_: I have a couple of hundred blank cd/dvd I can throw at it21:13
Tonio_rgreening: hehe :)21:13
jjesse403 forbidden21:14
Tonio_jjesse: gimme a second.... I have to fix this....21:14
rgreeningTonio_: gotta love buying in bulk21:14
rgreeningIf anyone wants to test qt4.5.0-beta1, I just uploaded to my PPA (currently building) - https://launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive21:15
Tonio_jjesse: should be okay21:15
jjesseTonio_: ok i'll give it a shot tonight21:15
Tonio_neversfelde: that's a dirty source package, with svn in it and build as native, but it should build....21:15
neversfeldeso if there are enough other testers, I should wait for my upcoming jaunty upgrade21:16
* raphink likes quassel :)21:17
ScottKOK.  Well kdebase-worspace with the bluetooth patch is finally building (4.1.4)21:17
* ScottK wonders what gmm++ is and do we need it for 4.2?21:22
ScottKDebian KDE-Qt team just uploaded it to Debian New.21:23
apacheloggerScottK: ^ something similar for batpatch maybe?21:23
rgreeninghow do you add the keys for lp ppas21:30
apacheloggerrgreening: get added automagically21:32
rgreeningcompositing under jaunty is regressed for intel video21:38
rgreeningslow as fark21:38
=== Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_
Tonio_rgreening: this is my only bg complain about kde4 in fact.... compositing is better integrated, but slower than in compiz21:40
rgreeningTonio_: it is actually worse now since I updated to Jaunty from Intrepid. It was quite usable under Intrepid. I think it's to do with needing newer dr/drm and intel video 2.6.021:41
rgreeningthe new kernel could be the issue, as it uses the new GEM21:42
apacheloggerthe issue is the new x21:45
apacheloggeryou are lucky that intel is an opensource driver and thus works considerable well :P21:46
ScottKHaving systems with open source friendly drivers is not luck.21:46
Tonio_anyone used to debug cmake build problems ?21:47
Tonio_I get an issue I can't fix...21:47
Tonio_settings/schemas/CMakeFiles/foo.dir/build.make:162: *** missing separator.  Stop.21:47
Tonio_the file is deleted during the build...21:48
rgreeningScottK: I have to agree. I consciously look for well supported hardware.21:48
apacheloggerTonio_: paste the cmakelists of settings/schemas/21:48
Tonio_apachelogger: ok21:49
Tonio_apachelogger: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/107967/21:49
Tonio_I already checked, but can't see anything wrong in it21:50
* apachelogger thinks Tonio_ doesn't know about batpaste yet ^_^21:50
Tonio_apachelogger: about what ???21:50
Tonio_apachelogger: what's it ?21:51
apacheloggerTonio_: I really don't think that stuff related to "foo" ought to be there21:51
apacheloggerTonio_: a script to paste a file from shell21:51
apacheloggerTonio_: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/batpaste-1.ogg21:51
Tonio_apachelogger: the thing related to foo is to be there, believe me :)21:54
apacheloggerthat is avery weird lib name I must say :P21:54
Tonio_apachelogger: name is crap, true that, but I think this is temporary in fact21:55
Tonio_apachelogger: well you know about libcaca or libcucu ?21:55
Tonio_that's from a former DPL, french guy21:55
Tonio_and the name literally mean : libpoo and libass :)21:55
apacheloggeroh dear21:55
Tonio_strange names do exist at some point :)21:55
Tonio_ad those 2 libs are used by a software he worked on called "toilet"21:56
Tonio_and that's NOT a joke !21:56
Tonio_apachelogger: the same guy wrote the WTFPL licence, btw21:56
raphinktoilet is a proof of concept of libcaca iirc21:56
raphinkto turn strings into ascii art21:57
raphinkapachelogger: libcaca is also used for a plugin for vlc iirc21:57
apacheloggercolorful names one might say21:57
raphinkso you can watch videos in ascii art21:57
apacheloggerScottK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~kopf-alexander/+reportedbugs21:58
Tonio_apachelogger: that's the very Sam Hocevar ;)21:58
Tonio_apachelogger: but the guy is shinny, extremely skilled.... so... :)21:58
rgreeningTonio_: k3b is looking ok. I am doing some testing now.... only thing is (like you said) the package needs to be cleaned up. I believe we do not use k3bsetup (it requires kdesu anyway) and of course splitting into k3b and k3b-data...22:06
apacheloggerrgreening: shouldn't it be like based on KDE 3's k3b packaging?22:06
rgreeningapachelogger: yes, that's my point I guess.. :)22:07
rgreeningapachelogger: but Tonio_ already knows that I am sure :'>22:07
* apachelogger senses the dark side of the force22:09
Tonio_rgreening: have you been able to burn something ?22:11
Tonio_apachelogger: the thing is k3b is a pretty complex packaging, lots of deps and so on22:11
Tonio_apachelogger: I wanted confirmation it worked before spending time making the packaging clean22:12
apacheloggerTonio_: fortunately you don't have to patch it dead22:12
* apachelogger always fears kdelibs(4) will fall apart when he touches it ^_^22:12
Tonio_apachelogger: yep :)22:13
Tonio_let's go for a clean package now !!!22:13
apacheloggerTonio_: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-windowslist if you want to do something easy first ;-)22:16
rgreeningTonio_: I ripped a CD making an iso. No burn test yet... when I get home later tonight.22:18
rgreeningok, going home. will be back laterz22:19
Tonio_apachelogger: hum... well I'm hot and it's late, so I'll probably concentrate on k3b now I have some kind of motivation ;)22:21
neversfelde /me needs a MOTU für looking at http://tinyurl.com/a7u6s722:21
ScottKapachelogger: Could we have a tag for those, like kde4.1.4?22:24
* ScottK just lost at chess to his 5 year old, so is clearly not up for anything complex right now.22:24
apacheloggerXand3r: could ScottK have tags for the bug reports?22:30
apacheloggerScottK: you probably have time to do a plasmoid review, don't you? ;-)22:31
* ScottK is up to his eyeballs in annoying children and bluetooth for Intrepid.22:31
ScottKlater tonight probably.22:31
Xand3rapachelogger: tags?22:32
apacheloggerneversfelde: there, send ScottK some cookies22:32
apacheloggerXand3r: edit the bug22:32
apacheloggerthe second to last input box is for tags22:32
ScottKAnd some babysitting.22:32
apacheloggerXand3r: add kde4.1.4 as tag to all bugs22:32
Xand3rapachelogger: all 20 bugs?22:33
Xand3rgnaa why22:33
Xand3ryou said there is nothing to do anymore22:33
apacheloggerbecause ScottK can't define a project target properly :P22:33
ScottKOr if there's some other LPish way to do it, fine.22:33
Xand3rapachelogger: thats mean, all 20 bugs22:34
Xand3ri do it only for you22:34
* apachelogger gives Xand3r a hug and a kiss22:34
apacheloggerScottK: sure, if we had a script :P22:35
Xand3rapachelogger: you are so genius make one22:35
apacheloggeron my todo22:35
apacheloggermore pressing matters right now22:35
apacheloggerneversfelde: did you like pbuild kshutdown22:36
Xand3rapachelogger: wich tag? kde4.1.4 ?22:36
apacheloggerXand3r: aye22:36
* apachelogger pokes neversfelde with his laser screwdriver22:36
* neversfelde sends cookies22:37
neversfeldecookies for everyone :D22:37
Xand3rhi neversfelde22:37
neversfeldehei Xand3r22:37
neversfeldeapachelogger: ok, whats wrong with kshutdown? :)22:38
apacheloggerW: kshutdown: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/kshutdown22:38
apacheloggerneversfelde: that is ^22:38
apacheloggerinstall kdesdk-scripts22:39
apacheloggerrun kdemangen.pl /usr/bin/kshutdown > kshutdown.122:39
apacheloggerinstall that as manpage22:39
apacheloggermaybe also tweak it a bit22:39
neversfeldeapachelogger: thought that is not necessary, when there is no man kshutdown, choqoK is without manpage too?22:39
neversfeldeah ok22:39
apacheloggerneversfelde: easy enough to create one if the app uses standard kde startup stuff22:39
neversfeldeis it correct to create an absolutley new package or should I update the existing one?22:40
apacheloggersame question, same answer :P22:40
apacheloggerneversfelde: there is no point in creating a new package for changes on an existing packaging, don't you think?22:40
apacheloggerneversfelde: also, debian/watch file would be of use considering the stuff comes from sourceforge22:41
neversfeldehmm, advanced task^^22:41
neversfeldeapachelogger: so it is better to update 1.0.2-1ubuntu122:43
apacheloggerneversfelde: no22:44
apacheloggerneversfelde: you did not upload that version anyway22:44
apacheloggerneversfelde: you are refining the revision22:44
neversfeldeno, but I got doubt, when I saw k3b22:45
apacheloggera whole more complex story ;-)22:45
neversfeldek :)22:45
Xand3rapachelogger: shit is done22:46
apacheloggerneversfelde: if you only add debian/watch or manpage you might be able to find a nice motu to review and upload if he/she is ok with it22:46
* apachelogger add a note to this advocation22:47
Tonio_apachelogger: you know what ???? I mostly inished spliting k3b, and a bad rm -rf came out.....22:47
apacheloggerXand3r: language!22:47
* Tonio_ cries........22:47
neversfeldeapachelogger: will have a look at it22:47
* apachelogger hugs Tonio_22:47
vorianmeh, me updates strigi22:47
Xand3rXand3r: language? what is that? never heard about it22:47
Tonio_sometimes I HATE myself....22:47
apacheloggerTonio_: you should make plenty of copies, or use a vcs, or just not use rm -rf lightly :)22:48
Tonio_apachelogger: rm -rf *_* is generally fine ;)22:49
Tonio_apache rm -rf *.* is a lot more dangerous in my case...22:49
apacheloggerrm -rf is _never_ good22:49
Tonio_apachelogger: I should consider use a vcs, indeed22:49
* apachelogger only uses rm22:49
apacheloggerrm -rf goes far too easy wrong22:50
Tonio_apachelogger: bah, as long as the man typing isn't an asshole like me..... can be okay :)22:50
apacheloggerno no, this got nothing to do that :P22:51
tsdgeosis luka renko here?22:51
apacheloggertsdgeos: not right now .... his nick would be Lure though22:51
Tonio_tsdgeos: lure is not there....22:51
tsdgeosanyone on jaunty can run a valgrind over okular and http://www.qtrac.eu/C++-GUI-Programming-with-Qt-4-1st-ed.zip this document22:52
tsdgeoshe reports a crash but the gdb backtrace is quite weird22:52
apacheloggertsdgeos: could that be a poppler issue?22:53
* apachelogger noticed that okular crashes on pretty much every pdf in jaunty22:53
tsdgeosapachelogger: i'm with my poppler maintainer hat here22:53
apacheloggerok :)22:54
tsdgeospoppler 0.10.3 is totally fine here opening that pdf though22:54
apacheloggertsdgeos: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/108039/22:57
tsdgeosapachelogger: can it be that okular hasn't been recompiled after poppler 0.8 -> 0.10 update?22:58
apacheloggertsdgeos: entirely possible22:59
apacheloggerlemme check22:59
apacheloggertsdgeos: indeed, didn't get rebuilt :)23:00
apachelogger*preparing upload*23:00
tsdgeoscan you rebuild it? the backtrace doesn't make much sense either23:00
neversfeldeis it possible to create a watch file with a zip packed source?23:00
wesley_720 p why does it ask so much off your system ? I Dragonplayer the sound doesnt go right, and vlc doesnt seem to handle it23:01
apacheloggerneversfelde: don't think so ... get-orig-source would work better anyway23:01
* ScottK votes after we get 4.2.0 done we build them all twice in a row to see if they rebuild. kdebase-workspace in Intrepid does not.23:05
vorianScottK: good idear23:05
apacheloggertsdgeos: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/4:4.1.96-0ubuntu223:05
tsdgeosso i can tell the man that try the new package when ready, right?23:06
apacheloggertsdgeos: yep23:06
tsdgeostx mate23:06
apacheloggertsdgeos: thanks for pointing it out :)23:07
tsdgeosapachelogger: not sure it's the problem, but it's the only thing i can think of23:07
tsdgeosit's good to have responsive people on the distro side :-)23:08
apacheloggertsdgeos: it very likely is, I started noticing this only a couple of days ago, and poppler 0.10 got uploaded jan 1923:08
Tonio_apachelogger: I will not finish the k3b package before friday, and I'll require revu even if that could be avoided....23:10
Tonio_apachelogger: ready to help on that point ?23:10
Tonio_apachelogger: 4 eyes are better than 2 for this one :)23:11
apacheloggerwe have 4.2.0 coming up... but yeah I should be able to help with that :)23:11
apacheloggervorian is doing the coordinator job anyway ;-)23:11
Tonio_apachelogger: there is no emergency with k3b, since that's a svn snapshot, I'll commit a lot of packages before the release :)23:12
Tonio_apachelogger: I'll be full time available on friday, so if you need help for kde.... I can help :)23:12
Tonio_apachelogger: also you ninjas might be organised your way...23:13
apacheloggerthat would mean spending that day to get a ninja envrionment ;-)23:13
apacheloggerTonio_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas23:13
Tonio_yep, that's my point.... but since I'm really back now, we'll have to do that one day :)23:13
Tonio_apachelogger: things change too fast.... as was only offline for a few month.... and I feel lost in the processes :)23:14
Tonio_apachelogger: but the team grown up considerably, which is really, really good :)23:14
apacheloggerconstant improvement on every aspect23:14
Tonio_yeah, but it's hard to feel lost that quick, to be honnest :)23:15
ScottKIf we can get the NM plasmoid and K3B done, we might have a KDE3 free CD soon23:15
vorianapachelogger: you have strigi mail, we'll need for kdelibs23:16
Tonio_it'll take a couple of weeks before I feel really comfortable :)23:16
apacheloggerTonio_: all the more reason to not be offline for a few months ;-)23:16
ScottKWhich means there's some hope of everything fitting23:16
Tonio_apachelogger: that was not my choice :)23:16
apacheloggeryah yah :P23:16
Tonio_apachelogger: lost girlfriend and appartment, then went to some depression.... then back, and happy to live again :)23:16
Tonio_apachelogger: but you know the story....23:16
apacheloggerTonio_: we are good with therapies as well23:17
Tonio_ScottK NM will be done for sure, no idea of k3b status, to be honnest23:17
wesley_Losing your girl can make you really sick :(23:17
apacheloggerTonio_: Nightrose certainly has her tricks to make one feel better23:17
apacheloggeroh, hold on that could sound wrong23:17
Tonio_apachelogger: yeah, but at those moments, simply getting in front of the computer was a nightmare...23:17
Tonio_apachelogger: haha23:17
Tonio_wesley_: and you don't have the details.... that break was particularly rude :)23:18
apacheloggerTonio_: good to have you back anyway :)23:18
Tonio_wesley_: a few month before getting married, in the meantime you're trying to have a baby, and have apparently not any problem23:18
wesley_Thats ofcourse not good, but its teribel23:19
Tonio_wesley_: and you're announced she's been cheating with you for 7 month :)23:19
Tonio_apachelogger: happy to be here again :)23:19
* Nightrose slaps apachelogger23:19
* Nightrose hugs Tonio_23:19
wesley_Tonio_ I had that to with a girlfriend, your senses should had say you something ?23:19
apacheloggerNightrose: now that was completely unintentional :P23:19
Nightrosejaja :P23:19
ScottKwesley_: Please be nice23:20
ScottKwesley_: You've been warned before.23:20
Tonio_wesley_: nope, I'm good now23:20
apacheloggerNightrose: my bf always says "it just happened to sound weird" in such situtations23:20
wesley_I mean it good ScottK, you read it wrong\23:20
Tonio_wesley_: I have been able to understand I deserve a lot better than this23:20
apacheloggerNightrose: for some reason he ends up in a lot of those ;-)23:20
Nightrosehehe right....23:20
Tonio_wesley_: I'm the good and nice person of the story23:20
Tonio_but Riddell and seele saw me a couple of days after it happened.... it was terrible :)23:21
wesley_Tonio_ Thats what I try to tell me when my ex left me, few months later she starts poping up in my head23:21
wesley_My relation is on a break, I hope to make it up with valentijn day23:22
* Nightrose thinks we should talk about nicer things23:22
Nightroselike kpackagekit23:22
Nightroseor quassel23:22
Nightroseor k3b23:23
apacheloggerkpackagekit = broken23:23
Tonio_Nightrose: or sex ? ;)23:23
wesley_k3b sounds okay23:23
apacheloggerquassel = not finished23:23
Tonio_apachelogger: kpackagekit -> working with the ppa version, in the repos soon23:23
apacheloggerk3b = borken, KDE 3 and not finished untested pre-alphaware23:23
wesley_I can test kpackagekit, but k3b not, i dont have a dvd drive23:23
Nightroseapachelogger: see - lots of nice stuff to work on ;-)23:23
apacheloggerTonio_: kpackagekit -> not finished then :P23:23
Tonio_apachelogger: sure not23:24
Tonio_apachelogger: anyway, jaunty will be released with unfinished components, ut that's life23:24
* apachelogger is happy with whatever stuff we have in jaunty as long as the translations are flawless23:24
Tonio_the target is kick the harse of gnom with the next LTS, right ? ;)23:24
apacheloggerTonio_: well, 9.04 will be direct upgrade target of 8.04 (since we skipped 8.10 in the autoupdate)23:25
apacheloggerso a considerable amount of usability should be available ;-)23:25
wesley_Thats kind off disapoints me sometimes that for last 2 releases not everthing is finshed, but i have trust in 9.0423:25
Tonio_apachelogger: bah kpackagekit is not worse than what we had all those years23:26
wesley_kpackage start23:26
apacheloggerwesley_: software is never finished23:26
Tonio_wesley_: consider OSX 5 years ago23:26
Tonio_wesley_: not everything was finished, since the transition was really badly done23:26
wesley_I had run 0s 923:27
Tonio_they restarted from scratch at any point23:27
* apachelogger counts on ubuntu for introducing a break in the foundations23:27
Tonio_they missed so many features and applications23:27
Tonio_and what about now ? it's wonderfull23:27
wesley_If you ask me Osx is not better then Linux, java doesnt work like it should23:27
Tonio_we have to think about kde4 on the long term23:27
apacheloggerTonio_: reviews are done short term not long term ;-)23:27
Tonio_wesley_: osx is 10 times better than linux, point, nothing to be discussed there :)23:27
wesley_What about the ugly blue shadows when composting is off?23:27
Tonio_wesley_: but nobody has to disable it :) that's the true story23:28
wesley_I talking about kde 4.223:28
Tonio_wesley_: what about the horrible TTY when X.org is off ? same question23:28
Tonio_ah ;)23:28
Tonio_wesley_: well maybe we should disable shadows by default....23:28
Tonio_they are making compositing a lot slower in any case...23:29
apacheloggerthey are necessary for oxygen23:29
wesley_I havent reported anything to kde, but those shadows look ugly when composting is off23:29
Tonio_apachelogger: I diable them, and didn't see any problem23:29
apacheloggerthe one and only reason you have these blue frames when compositing is off23:29
apacheloggerpeople where complaining about not being able to differ where one window starts and the other ends23:30
Tonio_apachelogger: what do you mean by "necessary" ?23:30
apacheloggerTonio_: if we turn them off people will come complaining about that again23:30
wesley_But still that blue line doesnt look nice, and Kwin doesnt work properly, because intel drivers are f@#ked off, they perform way below23:31
Tonio_apachelogger: I don't see that "start/end" point ?23:31
Tonio_apachelogger: what's the story ?23:31
wesley_Kpackage-kit seems not to fetch the sources23:32
apacheloggerTonio_: the problem is that oxygen is designed for displays with good contrast, with desktop effects turned on and a certain color setting23:32
neversfeldeah get-orig-source23:33
apacheloggerTonio_: if the parameters change flaws by design appear, such as window frames not being very good to differ on crappy displays without desktop effects23:33
wesley_Should i provide the konsole out put off kpackage kit ?23:34
* apachelogger needs to go to bed23:35
apachelogger~order bed23:35
* kubotu is placing a cot for apachelogger in the corner of #kubuntu-devel.23:35
* wesley_ needs to travel trough time23:35
wesley_http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/108048/ Kpackage doesnt seem to be configured right, and the state i see it is in, its useless, the sources are fetched, and can find any packages23:38
Tonio_good night everyone...23:47
Tonio_wesley_: that's known issue, and a problem with packagekit itself...23:47
Tonio_wesley_: the packagekit ppa has valid and working packages, they'll be in the archives soon23:48
wesley_Okay, I just though lets take a look23:48
* Tonio_ beds, btw23:48
Tonio_wesley_: you are right, since those are in the archives :)23:48
Tonio_and you couldn't know about the ppa :)23:48
Tonio_rgreening, apacheloggeranother major upload for NM plasmoid ;)23:49
wesley_hehe, I know kpackage kit from fedora, but if you ask me it was slow23:49
glatzorTonio_, wesley_ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-January/003590.html23:49
Tonio_30 new files in the svn23:49
Tonio_glatzor: great !23:50
Tonio_glatzor: will you consider uploading kpackagekit or want me to do it then ?23:50
wesley_thats much, but i never look at those pages, I am a normal user, i see me as a advanced user23:50
Tonio_glatzor: current svn snap ftbfs, so maybe your package is the one to upload :)23:50
glatzorTonio_, actually I am not very familiar with KDE. So perhaps you should do this.23:51
wesley_Its KDE that I still use Linux23:51
Tonio_glatzor: no pb23:51
Tonio_glatzor: I'll keep the package on your ppa and your your bzr branch in the future instead of the kde's23:52
Tonio_glatzor: probably better to maintain this way then23:52
Tonio_glatzor: I'll upload tomorrow, no pb23:52
Tonio_wesley_: I think packagekit isn't slow on fedora23:52
Tonio_yum probably is ;)23:52
Tonio_or the packagekit-yum backend ^^23:53
wesley_yeah can be, but it taked not long and i was installing kubunyu23:53
wesley_kubuntu is still one of the more default kde23:54
Tonio_wesley_: I also use fedora23:54
wesley_I use osx and kubuntu23:54
Tonio_great distro, but globaly slow, also not as much as opensuse :)23:54
Tonio_I use windows XP, 2003, OSX, kubuntu, ubuntu, fedora, opensuse and vista :)23:54
wesley_but havent loggen in anymore on osx23:55
Tonio_but well, I'm a kind of nerd when doing this23:55
wesley_Tonio on a pc ?23:55
Tonio_wesley_: I have a mac, with osx, vista and kubuntu installed23:55
Tonio_and I use VM for the others23:55
wesley_Ah okay, i have a intel atom 33023:55
Tonio_and on a regular basis I mostly use windows XP, osx and kubuntu23:55
Tonio_wesley_: ah.... :)23:56
wesley_I didnt even fix grub to add osx23:56
wesley_Its still there though23:56
Tonio_does it work well ?23:56
wesley_Yes works like a sharm, but only mic doesnt work, everthing else works ( You know its osx 8x23:57
Tonio_I kinda love osx, but as I decided to boycott apple, I'll have to stop using this now :)23:58
wesley_Its not really something they like that you talk about, anyway I have my acer running to osx, bought me a usb wlan for 20 and have internet now23:58
Tonio_well I'm sorry but it's really late in france.... I have to go sleep !23:59
wesley_But on  the atom works kind off out of the box, with a osx86 distro23:59
Tonio_seya tomorrow23:59
wesley_00:59 here23:59
Tonio_wesley_: same here :)23:59

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