| * ScottK wonders if someone who actually knows something about QT might look at Bug #128538 | 00:11 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 128538 in qt4-x11 "Qt4/gdb: Cannot step into Qt4 functions (dup-of: 261380)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128538 | 00:11 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 261380 in qt4-x11 "Packages have invalid .gnu_debuglink" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/261380 | 00:11 |
| Riddell | ScottK: those are true, don't have any ideas on what to do about it though :( | 00:16 |
| ScottK | OK. | 00:16 |
| jjesse | evenint | 01:48 |
| ScottK | New data type? | 01:49 |
| ScottK | Goes with oddint? | 01:49 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 01:49 |
| seele | Sput: doh, for some reason my channel didn't light up when you said my name | 01:53 |
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| EagleScreen | incorrect working of kpackagekit/policykit-kde | 02:48 |
| EagleScreen | i think there is a problem with one of them | 02:48 |
| ScottK | EagleScreen: They were just uploaded today, so likely. Please file bugs. | 02:50 |
| EagleScreen | kpackagekit call policykit-kde to autenticate for installing packages, but kpackagekit gives you autentication error before you type password in policykit-kde dialog | 02:50 |
| EagleScreen | will jaunty use kpackagekit as its default package manager? | 02:52 |
| ScottK | That's the plan. | 02:53 |
| EagleScreen | i hope it them to be enough mature | 02:54 |
| EagleScreen | i hope for it to be enough mature, sorry | 02:54 |
| vorian | ScottK: I am a bit confused about something with the security update. The version that is in intrepid is 2.6 ( i saw that 2.8.1 was backported today ) 2.8.0 does not exist in intrepid | 03:04 |
| vorian | or am I missing something? | 03:05 |
| vorian | (which could be the case due to lack of sleep and food) | 03:05 |
| vorian | anyone here running jaunty with an amd64? (that could test someting) | 03:17 |
| vorian | confrim, actually | 03:17 |
| seele | i thought jaunty on amd64 was broken? | 03:18 |
| vorian | really? | 03:18 |
| seele | i thought i saw someone say it yesterday but i could be wrong | 03:18 |
| vorian | works for me™ | 03:18 |
| vorian | someone reported a segfault bug on kdenlive that i cannot reproduce | 03:19 |
| EagleScreen | i have filed bug LP #319419 | 03:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 319419 in evolution "evolution cannot authenticate with imap server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319419 | 03:22 |
| EagleScreen | !bug 319419 | 03:22 |
| EagleScreen | sorry I typed it wrongly | 03:23 |
| EagleScreen | LP #319459 | 03:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 319459 in kpackagekit "kpackagekit reports an autentication error before you type password in policykit-kde dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319459 | 03:24 |
| ScottK | vorian: What's the question? | 03:35 |
| ScottK | The patch needs to be integrated into a security upload for 2.6 | 03:35 |
| ScottK | Fixing it in backports doesn't count. | 03:35 |
| vorian | i understand, for some reason i was thinking you waned me to patch the 2.8.0 version | 03:36 |
| ScottK | no. | 03:36 |
| ScottK | Got it straight now then, I guess | 03:37 |
| vorian | Yes, thanks | 03:37 |
| vorian | ScottK: is the t-test125 relevant to this version? | 03:48 |
| ScottK | The test that's in the patch tests for the issue we're fixing. | 03:48 |
| vorian | okie | 03:48 |
| vorian | ScottK: i just sent you ane email | 04:37 |
| vorian | an* | 04:37 |
| vorian | pffft | 04:37 |
| * ScottK looks | 04:37 | |
| ScottK | vorian: Looks like you've been greylisted. Any idea how long until your MTA retries? | 04:39 |
| vorian | nope, it's gmail | 04:40 |
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| freeflying | The Akonadi control process is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup. | 06:07 |
| freeflying | I still have this error message in jaunty, anyone dose? | 06:08 |
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| === txwikinger is now known as txwikinger3 | ||
| === txwikinger3 is now known as txwikinger_work | ||
| === txwikinger_work is now known as txwikinger | ||
| Lure_ | can somebody try to open this Qt book in PDF with okular: http://www.qtrac.eu/C++-GUI-Programming-with-Qt-4-1st-ed.zip | 09:13 |
| Lure_ | it coredumps for me :-( | 09:13 |
| Tm_T | I'll try | 09:14 |
| Arby | Lure_: works fine here | 09:14 |
| Lure_ | Arby: intrepid or jaunty? kde 4.2/rc? | 09:14 |
| === Lure_ is now known as Lure | ||
| Arby | Lure_: okular 0.7.2, KDE4.1.2 | 09:15 |
| Tm_T | Arby: wanha! | 09:16 |
| Arby | hardy actually | 09:16 |
| Lure | Arby: this is so last year ;-) | 09:16 |
| Lure | Arby: but thanks for testing | 09:16 |
| Arby | Lure: you didn't ask that, you asked if it works :) | 09:16 |
| Lure | Arby: true, and I want to know if older versions work fine | 09:17 |
| Tm_T | Lure: works here | 09:17 |
| Lure | Arby: so that I can submit proper bug report | 09:17 |
| Lure | Tm_T: what do you have? | 09:17 |
| Arby | THis is my work PC I'm just about to run the upgrade since I have the office to myself today | 09:17 |
| Tm_T | Lure: Intrepid, with KDE 4.2.60-svn | 09:17 |
| Lure | Tm_T: I am actually suspecting popler library from jaunty... | 09:17 |
| Lure | Tm_T: it says "Error: Illegal annotation destination | 09:18 |
| Lure | then coredump | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | Lure: could be | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | Lure: 64bit? | 09:18 |
| Lure | Tm_T: yes | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | hmm, 32bit here | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | so dunno if that makes difference too | 09:18 |
| Lure | Tm_T: poppler is much newer in jaunty (0.8.7 vs. 0.10.3) | 09:20 |
| Lure | any jaunty user around? | 09:20 |
| freeflying | Lure: yes | 09:21 |
| Lure | freeflying: cay you try open this PDF with okular: http://www.qtrac.eu/C++-GUI-Programming-with-Qt-4-1st-ed.zip | 09:22 |
| freeflying | Lure: can not donwload :) | 09:22 |
| Lure | freeflying: ups, I do not think 50MB is suitable for e-mailing too ;-) | 09:22 |
| freeflying | Lure: get it via a server in french, need some time | 09:23 |
| freeflying | s/frecn/france | 09:24 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: hmm, firewall again? | 09:24 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: seems not gfwed :) | 09:25 |
| Tm_T | good | 09:25 |
| freeflying | got the ip address resolved | 09:26 |
| freeflying | Lure: got the same error | 09:28 |
| Lure | freeflying: thanks for testing | 09:28 |
| Lure | it looks like it is poppler bug | 09:28 |
| Lure | will submit it to b.fd.o | 09:29 |
| Lure | bug submited: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19669 | 09:38 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 19669 in qt4 frontend "okular/poppler crash in Poppler::convertAnnotColor when opening large PDF (Qt book)" [Major,New] | 09:39 |
| Lure | thanks everyone for testing | 09:39 |
| freeflying | Lure: its not because of the size of PDF file | 09:43 |
| freeflying | just opened a 81M pdf, works fine | 09:44 |
| Lure | freeflying: yes, it looks like it has some annotations that causes crash (from stack trace) | 09:44 |
| Lure | freeflying: and it is clear regression, so I hope it will get adequate attention | 09:45 |
| freeflying | :) | 09:45 |
| * Lure wants to read Qt PDT books ;-) | 09:47 | |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 09:52 |
| Lure | hi To | 09:54 |
| Lure | ups, he left before my Tab key cathed him ;-) | 09:55 |
| jussi01 | is the kdesvn broke? | 10:01 |
| jussi01 | jussi@aaaa:~/networkmanager$ svn up | 10:01 |
| jussi01 | svn: Can't connect to host 'anonsvn.kde.org': Connection refused | 10:01 |
| a|wen | jussi01: think i saw something on the kde planet about a mirror server being down | 10:06 |
| jussi01 | a|wen: ahh, thanks | 10:06 |
| a|wen | jussi01: http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/bobulate/index.php?/archives/697-AnonSVN-down.html | 10:07 |
| jussi01 | a|wen: thanks | 10:07 |
| a|wen | np | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: yes anonsvn is down, and its mirrors too | 10:13 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: so without account no svn | 10:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: pitti is looking for new archive admins | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | hum... plasmoid-network-manager stoped working for me :) | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not replacing knetworkmanager was the good decision... it seems we'll have to work a bit for the plasma applet to work right... | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I may contact lubo to get a few informations about his plans | 11:01 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: dood, kpackagekit worked perfectly | 11:02 |
| jussi01 | hi Tonio_ | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: great :) | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did packagekit got fixed yesterday ? | 11:02 |
| Riddell | dunno, but it works this morning | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: good :) | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well no change on my side :) doesn't work | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but that's packagekit issue | 11:03 |
| Riddell | policykit-kde doesn't work though | 11:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doesn't ? | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what problem do you have with it ? authentication or set permissions ? | 11:07 |
| mrvanes | Riddell: any progress on kopete/msn issue? I managed to login to msn exactly once, yesterday. After that, no luck... | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | hey jussi01 | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | mrvanes: same with me :) | 11:08 |
| * mrvanes shakes hands ;) | 11:09 | |
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| mrvanes | Tonio_: you aware of hal --configure problems? | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: since kpackagekit is broken for me, I can't test the authentication part.... but the policykit-kde kcm module lets me set permissions without problems | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | mrvanes: not that I know of.... what's the point ? | 11:10 |
| mrvanes | # dpkg --configure hal | 11:10 |
| mrvanes | Setting up hal (0.5.12~rc1+git20090120-0ubuntu1) ... | 11:10 |
| mrvanes | * Reloading system message bus config... [ OK ] | 11:10 |
| mrvanes | * Starting Hardware abstraction layer haldinvoke-rc.d: initscript hal, action "start" failed. | 11:10 |
| mrvanes | dpkg: error processing hal (--configure): | 11:10 |
| mrvanes | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 11:10 |
| mrvanes | Errors were encountered while processing: | 11:11 |
| mrvanes | hal | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | ouch... that's bad :) | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | mrvanes: better ask the maintainer, since a postinst script may be broken | 11:11 |
| mrvanes | but hal runs... nevertheless | 11:11 |
| mrvanes | ok, is (s)he around here? | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | mrvanes: yeah, that's juste the "configure" step of dpkg that causes problems, but the files are installed... | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | mrvanes: last uploader is pitty | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | pitti, sorry | 11:12 |
| mrvanes | hmm... no pitti around... will mail then | 11:13 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: removed policykit-gnome, added policykit-kde, rebooted, ran kpackagekit and now it installs without asking anything | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: look at the permissions.... | 11:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: oh hmm, it fails to authenticate first time but second time I try it works without popping up the dialogue | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: policykit can be made to ask for the password or not | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | yeah, I have the same thing | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | error and then working | 11:15 |
| Riddell | ah | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | but it's "mostly" working | 11:15 |
| Riddell | it pops up the "authentication failed" first | 11:15 |
| Riddell | then on top of that the policykit dialogue appears | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | yup, that's exactly what I got when kpackagekit was working for me :) | 11:16 |
| Riddell | so it thinks it has failed before it even asks for the password | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hard to say... | 11:16 |
| Riddell | but as you say "mostly" working | 11:17 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: we should write the MIRs | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | yep, that can be fixed, for sure... | 11:17 |
| Riddell | those things take so long to process we need to start ASAP | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can write the MIRs, so for kpackagekit, libpackagekit-qt, and policykit, right ? | 11:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes | 11:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: oh well, and package kit generally | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm sure we can get some help for the little bugs from upstream, since we'll be the first debian based distro using them :) | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably wait for 4.2 to be release before pinging them | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, I may ping glatzor or asac for this part ;) | 11:19 |
| Riddell | asac? | 11:20 |
| Riddell | glatzor is your man | 11:20 |
| Riddell | but just write them and check with glatzor before poking the MIR people | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum asac worked on the packaging afaics :) at least, last changelog output is from him :) | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll see with glatzor.... starting writting them today | 11:21 |
| Riddell | thanks | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | you're welcome :) | 11:21 |
| * Tonio_ hopes the plasmoid for network-manager will be ready for jaunty.... sounds like won't happen... | 11:21 | |
| xerosis | on the other hand Tonio_, it works better for me than knetworkmanager did, that's with WPA too | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | xerosis: yeah, but that's very random depending the people... | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | xerosis: worked for me for 3 days, and then toped working without any reason or any change... | 11:29 |
| * Riddell uploads mysql 5.0 | 11:31 | |
| mrvanes | Tonio: managed to trace configure errror back to hald crashing: | 11:41 |
| mrvanes | hald[15114]: segfault at 20 ip 000000000042f63b sp 00007fffe8a23040 error 4 in hald[400000+57000] | 11:41 |
| mrvanes | hal start doesn't complain, but it doesn't run | 11:41 |
| mrvanes | so --configure was right after all! | 11:42 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok-nightly-kdelibs_20090120+svn914292-0neon1_i386.deb : trying to overwrite `/opt/amarok-nightly/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindPulseAudio.cmake', which is also in package amarok-nightly-kdebase | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPolicykit-KDE | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any comments ? so that I can copycat for the other ones :) | 11:56 |
| Riddell | looking | 11:56 |
| Riddell | "No binaries running as root or suid/sgid." well the whole point is that it does run stuff as root | 11:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: missing Upstream bug tracke | 12:00 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: missing Upstream bug tracker | 12:00 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: missing sections 7 to 10 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportTemplate | 12:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oki | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well the root stuff is done within policykit which is already in main... | 12:19 |
| Riddell | right enough | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPolicykit-KDE | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if that's okay for you, then I'll make the other ones toonight probably, as I have to go back to work right now :) | 12:28 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: "Upstream BTS" should point to a more useful URL | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum.... | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: like https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=policykit-kde | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | ? | 12:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: policykit-kde isn't actually registered in bugs.kde.org | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's my point ;) | 12:30 |
| Riddell | so quite possibly there isn't a bug tracker | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well there is a bug already, look at my url | 12:30 |
| Riddell | that's dolphin | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | I know ;) | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | there is no policykit-kde product... | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what to do in that case ? | 12:32 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: "No upstream bug tracker known" | 12:35 |
| Riddell | glatzor: ping, we want to write MIRs for packagekit | 12:36 |
| Riddell | to get kpackagekit in | 12:36 |
| glatzor | Riddell, great | 12:36 |
| glatzor | Riddell, I uploaded 0.3.13 to the ppa yesterday | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll do the kpackagekit and libpackagekit-qt toonight... | 12:37 |
| glatzor | Riddell, I would suggest not switching to the 0.4 branch for jaunty. | 12:37 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, libpackagekit-qt is part of PackageKit | 12:38 |
| Riddell | glatzor: right, stick with what works :) | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: well not the same source package btw ;) | 12:39 |
| glatzor | Riddell, Tonio_ the Fedora release is a little bit later and there have been some late changes in previous cycles. | 12:39 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, you are wrong. | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: hu ? well not for our archives at least... | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: apt-cache show libpackagekit-qt2 | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: unless I'm missing something... | 12:40 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, libpackagekit-qt11 and libpackagekit-qt-dev are binary packages of my packagekit source package | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: hum then we have a problem :) | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: :) | 12:41 |
| Riddell | W: Unable to locate package libpackagekit-qt11 | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I guess you're taling about your ppa right ? | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: atm, kpackagekit usually shipped with a libpackagekit-qt tarball, so we packaged it along with it... | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if it's been directly in packagekit source package, maybe we should consider removing our package from the archives no ? | 12:44 |
| Riddell | the packagekit archive confuses me | 12:45 |
| Riddell | what are the git repositories and which one has libpackagekit-qt? | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I usually get libpackagekit from git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/packagekit/PackageKit-Qt | 12:48 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: ? | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: dpkg --i -force-overwrite | 12:48 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: i know ;-) just wanted to let you know | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: it's not like I would do anything about it :P | 12:49 |
| glatzor | Riddell, Tonio_ This repository seems to be abandoned. | 12:49 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: noted ;-) | 12:49 |
| glatzor | Riddell, Tonio_ the qt part was merged some time ago into the main repository | 12:50 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: right, which is a good point in fact | 12:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you're the archive admin, and I have to go back to work, so I'm leaving you on that point :) | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | oha | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: did you shoot nevi or something? | 12:51 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: nevi? | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: neversfelde | 12:51 |
| Nightrose | fwiw i didn't shoot anyone lately ;-) | 12:52 |
| Nightrose | not knowingly at least | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | I see | 12:52 |
| * apachelogger logs in to revu | 12:52 | |
| glatzor | Tonio_, Riddell, the kpackagekit package in the ppa is already build against libpackagekit-qt-dev of packagekit | 12:53 |
| glatzor | Riddell, I add you to the packagekit team | 12:53 |
| Riddell | that's fine then, glatzor will upload the new packagekit at some point and it'll overwrite out libpackagekit-qt-dev | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: may I susbscribe too please ? I'll probably mostly maintain and test the kpackagekit part :) | 12:54 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, what is your launchpad name? | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: tonio | 12:55 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, bzr branch lp:~packagekit/packagekit/kpackagekit-jaunty | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: thanks | 12:56 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, welcome ot ~packagekit | 12:56 |
| glatzor | to | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: super thanks | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll look at the branch and the packaging, then will update the package along with your next upload | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: do you have kpackagekit packages on your ppa to ? | 12:57 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, right. | 12:57 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I told you so yesterday :) | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: oh right :) sorry | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: there are a couple of interesting commits since your initial packaging on kde svn... | 13:02 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll give a test and eventually commit if all is fine... | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: didn't you package partitionmanager? | 13:08 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: nope, that's on my todo anyway ;) | 13:08 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: but the priority is given to packagekit and so on atm :) | 13:08 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I'll be on my contrib day (aka paid to work on ubuntu ^^) on friday, so I may work on it then | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: already on revu it is | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | that is why I am wondering :) | 13:10 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: well I'll just have to revu + fix ;) | 13:10 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: sounds good :) | 13:10 |
| * apachelogger gives it a review | 13:10 | |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: looks like decent packaging actually | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you think it would be a good idea to apply for archive admin? ... since my spare time is rather limited these days | 13:14 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: not sure, I heard that only New queue is available through launchpad but New queue is a place where messing up can lead to serious trouble | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | well, it's not like I would mess things up, I just wouldn't get very much done ;-) | 13:18 |
| vorian | morn | 13:18 |
| jjesse | morning | 13:19 |
| * apachelogger got chewing gum stuck to his lips | 13:19 | |
| apachelogger | now that must look weird | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | vore: hola | 13:19 |
| vorian | aloha! | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: salut | 13:19 |
| vorian | i see we had something happen two hours ago | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: we had= | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | ? | 13:20 |
| * apachelogger is seriously distracted by that gum on his lips | 13:20 | |
| vorian | haha | 13:21 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just performed a couple of test... | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: glatzor kpackaging is a more recent svn snapshot that mine... | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just tested he ppa packages and it all works, very nicelly | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we should probably wait for those to reach the repos to write the MIRs right ? | 13:39 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: what are your plans for upload ? | 13:39 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: anf FYI the current kpackagekit svn snapshot ftbfs, I'll look at this | 13:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no, don't wait to write the MIR, MIRs take bloody ages to get processed we need to start the process toot sweet | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | kde-nightly-kdeplasma-addons-dbg kde-nightly-kdesdk | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | kde-nightly-kdesdk-dbg kde-nightly-kdesupport | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | sry | 13:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: right so I'll do them toonight then, as promissed | 13:43 |
| Riddell | thanks | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: are there any plans on speeding up the MIR process? | 13:44 |
| * apachelogger also notes that kgrubeditor was demoted | 13:44 | |
| seele | because it doesnt have a maintainer? | 13:45 |
| seele | or because it doesnt support grub2? | 13:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: there are some new members of ubuntu-mir, doesn't seem to have helped | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | because it doesn't integrate well with the system | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | or rather with the phony way config updates are implemented :P | 13:46 |
| seele | ah, i dont know anything about that, heh | 13:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also, there are some usability issues :) | 13:46 |
| * apachelogger didn't follow the discussion | 13:47 | |
| Tonio_ | like "the following packages will be removed", and you have to click the "install now" buton to apply :) | 13:47 |
| seele | Tonio_: kpackagekit? | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | but IIRC the reasons for demoting sounded a lot like workaround-our-broken-implementation | 13:47 |
| Tonio_ | seele: yeah ;) | 13:47 |
| Tonio_ | seele: it all works with the ppa version | 13:47 |
| seele | Tonio_: yeah.. colomar and i came up with a whole list of stuff.. and the maintainer doesnt want to maintain it | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ping | 13:47 |
| Tonio_ | seele: that's bad..... really bad... | 13:48 |
| seele | apachelogger: big surprised | 13:48 |
| seele | Tonio_: yeah, so we have two broken choices. unmaintained crap adept or unmaintained less-crap but still crap kpackagekit | 13:48 |
| Tonio_ | seele: what did the maintainer say then ? perfect like this ? :) | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 13:48 |
| Tonio_ | seele: well we can patch for the strings causing problem for example | 13:49 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: pong | 13:49 |
| seele | Tonio_: no, that he didn't have time and he was more concerned with the backend than the front end | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | shall I write a ruby package manager :P | 13:49 |
| jjesse | Tonio_: read the email on the kubuntu-devel list | 13:49 |
| * seele will be back in 2 hours.. meeting time | 13:49 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: we should dewatch arts | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | actually | 13:49 |
| jjesse | he thought the changes were only for kubuntu not kde as a whole | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: we can compile kdelibs4 without arts, can't we? | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | seele, jjesse: will read, thanks | 13:49 |
| * apachelogger thinks dropping arts from the archives might make sense | 13:49 | |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, aRts is certifiably unmainatined and probably shouldn't be in main if at all possible | 13:50 |
| jjesse | Tonio_: i offered to work out a help manual and will work on that with the maintainer of kpackagekit | 13:51 |
| jjesse | which is more then i got in adept | 13:51 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: should be able to yes | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | --without-arts build without aRts default=no | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: giving it a try | 13:53 |
| Riddell | dunno if that'll need lots of other stuff to be recompiled | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | nateon | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | kvirc | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | knights | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | other stuff that depends on arts | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | kvirc should be replaced with KDE 4 port I suppose | 13:54 |
| ScottK | rgreening was working on a kvirc svn snapshot | 13:56 |
| Riddell | apt-cache rdepends libartsc0 | 13:56 |
| Riddell | lots | 13:56 |
| ScottK | It seems reasonably usable to me. | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | true | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I guess we should rebuild all KDE's without arts and file bugs for the other packages | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | there isn't really a point in supporting arts considering we have no KDE 3 desktop anymore | 13:59 |
| Riddell | yep | 14:00 |
| * apachelogger thinks coordinating this would be a perfect minion job ... if we only had minions -.- | 14:01 | |
| apachelogger | ah, right | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | Arby: ping | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | :P | 14:02 |
| * Arby looks nervous and checks the exits | 14:02 | |
| Arby | apachelogger: pong | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | Arby: wanna coordinate the arts rebuilds? | 14:03 |
| Arby | I can try | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | setup a wiki page ... announce on the list ... get the packages assigned to somebody | 14:03 |
| Arby | give me the five minute summary of what needs to happen | 14:04 |
| Arby | besides that^^ | 14:04 |
| Arby | I have to go in a sec | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | that is everything :P | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | Arby: just run apt-cache rdepends on the libarts* and arts* packages | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | create a wiki table of that for status and assignment tracking | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | then spread the word | 14:05 |
| Arby | and once the packages are assigned what do people need to do with them | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | Arby: make them build without arts | 14:06 |
| Arby | ok | 14:06 |
| Arby | why do I feel like that's harder than it sounds | 14:06 |
| Arby | what's the time frame for this? | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | 9.04 | 14:07 |
| * apachelogger is tired of arts bugs | 14:07 | |
| apachelogger | Arby: making them build without arts should be a matter of removing libarts-dev as build-dep and tetsbuiildng | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | ...in some cases update .install files | 14:08 |
| * apachelogger eats his afternoon snack and watches kdelibs build | 14:08 | |
| Arby | hmm, I suspect there will be many more questions but right now I need to go do work | 14:09 |
| Arby | back later | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: did I already like poke you with bug 257089 | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257089 in amarok "amarok does not save the playlist between computer restarts" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257089 | 14:15 |
| Nightrose | jep | 14:15 |
| Nightrose | and i pasted it in dev | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | and no one cared? | 14:15 |
| Nightrose | looks like it | 14:15 |
| * apachelogger wouldn't either :P | 14:16 | |
| Nightrose | :P | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | I find that feature rather useless anyway | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | especiall with Amarok 2 | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did you testbuild mysql-5.1? | 14:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I did with my patch, you said you were going to do more to it | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: where did it install sql-bench to for you? | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | ends up in /usr here | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | makefile.in says: benchdir_root = $(prefix) | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | ah | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: nevermind, that also happened before our changes | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | good thing we don't use autotools | 14:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes same here | 14:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2009-January/002575.html mentioned mysql | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/four.debdiff if you want to counter check | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | I basically just changed/removed some leftovers of usr/share/mysql and added the amarok-mysql conflicts/replaces | 14:27 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You should add to Arby's task to check reverse-build-depends of any -dev packages arts provides. | 14:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: looks good other than whitespace changes | 14:30 |
| ScottK | Oddly enough when I was hunting down kdelibs for KDE3 stuff that helps. | 14:30 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: post it to the ubuntu-server list and ping zul and mathiaz | 14:30 |
| Arby | ScottK noted | 14:31 |
| ScottK | Arby: Great. Thought you were gone. | 14:32 |
| Arby | I'll be in and out all afternoon | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: gotta subscribe first ... kdelibs seems to build just fine without arts | 14:34 |
| * apachelogger thinks he should prevent it from building api docs since we don't install them anyway | 14:34 | |
| glatzor | Riddell, for the packagekit MIR we should perhaps reduce the numbers of packages. AFAIK you don't want to support the gstreamer installer, mozilla plugin or smart and yum backend | 14:49 |
| ScottK | Is Ubuntu using packagekit this cycle? | 14:50 |
| glatzor | ScottK, Kubuntu as the main frontend and Ubuntu most likely only for jockey | 14:51 |
| ScottK | I see. | 14:51 |
| * ScottK was hoping they'd do the MIR, but maybe not. | 14:51 | |
| rgreening | Tonio__: did you figure out the packagekit issue yet? | 14:51 |
| vorian | NCommander: ping | 14:55 |
| wesley_ | Hi guys | 14:57 |
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| NCommander | vore, semiping | 15:47 |
| vorian | NCommander: can your update of plasmoid-toggle-composite wait until friday please? | 15:48 |
| NCommander | vorian, sure | 15:50 |
| vorian | thanks a million :) | 15:51 |
| * seele is disgusted with how many additional packages are required just for firefox | 15:52 | |
| seele | 76 newly installed, 131MB of disk space | 15:53 |
| jussi01 | seele: you should install with --no-install-recommends | 15:56 |
| jussi01 | then you dont get half of gnome | 15:56 |
| * jussi01 hates it also | 15:56 | |
| mok0 | I have just reviewed a package that ships the Troll-Tech libraries qtbindings_core, qtbindings_gui, and qtbindings_xml -- where can they be found in Ubuntu? | 16:00 |
| rgreening_ | hello | 16:00 |
| jussi01 | heya rgreening | 16:01 |
| rgreening | hey :) | 16:01 |
| rgreening | was just testing a python irc library... | 16:02 |
| jussi01 | cool | 16:02 |
| rgreening | I was thinking on a future project - plasmoid for irc | 16:02 |
| jussi01 | rgreening: oooh, a quassel plasmoid :D | 16:02 |
| rgreening | heh | 16:03 |
| jussi01 | hrm... what gmail notify apps are there for kde4 anyone know? | 16:09 |
| jussi01 | theres an idea... a gmail notification plasmoid! :D | 16:09 |
| jussi01 | who wants to write it! :D | 16:09 |
| * vorian points to jussi01 | 16:09 | |
| davmor2 | jussi01: well volunteered | 16:09 |
| jussi01 | hrm... who wants to mentor me? | 16:10 |
| jussi01 | :P | 16:10 |
| * jussi01 has no idea where to sgtart even | 16:11 | |
| davmor2 | jussi01: I find at the beginning helps ;) | 16:12 |
| jussi01 | lol | 16:12 |
| JontheEchidna | there was a gmail notification plasmoid on kde-look for KDE 4.0.x | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | there is an "Incoming Message" plasmoid that is similar, but I don't know if it works with gmail | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | it would most definitely work with kmail or whatever | 16:14 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: meh, he wants to solve both problems at once, was hoping we could just get our stuff sorted toot sweet | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | yeah, me too, after all we need to get it into main as well :S | 16:41 |
| Riddell | mm | 16:41 |
| ScottK | OK. I tried. | 16:44 |
| Riddell | ScottK: thanks, we can wait a couple of days I guess | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | KDE needs an option for "only hide notifications when I tell you to" | 16:47 |
| * apachelogger only glimpses 30% of the notifications | 16:47 | |
| * ScottK considers apachelogger needs to apply to the User Experience team and help create some wonderful. | 16:47 | |
| ScottK | http://spf.pastebin.com/m7b7e14bd for context | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 16:50 |
| * seele sighs | 16:52 | |
| glatzor | Riddell: you should only promote packagekit, packagekit-backend-apt, libpackagekit-(qt|glib)(11|-dev) and python-packagekit for main inclusion. | 16:53 |
| jussi01 | seele: whats bothering you? :( | 16:55 |
| seele | jussi01: i was sighing at the notification chat. it never dies! | 16:56 |
| seele | hehe | 16:56 |
| rgreening | smile seele, we still luv ya | 16:56 |
| rgreening | :P | 16:56 |
| seele | heh | 16:56 |
| seele | apachelogger: so contextual customization is one of those things that is really necessary in a notification system | 16:56 |
| * vorian finds the pink coloreded number in irssi enough of a notification | 17:01 | |
| jussi01 | vorian: meh :P | 17:02 |
| vorian | yep, it worked | 17:02 |
| vorian | :) | 17:03 |
| EagleScreen | is bluetooth officialy broken in Kuubntu 8.10? | 17:05 |
| Riddell | EagleScreen: yes | 17:06 |
| EagleScreen | any workaround? | 17:07 |
| Riddell | people had patches, not sure what happened to getting them doing anything | 17:08 |
| Riddell | Tm_T? JontheEchidna? | 17:08 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: how is it in jaunty atm? | 17:10 |
| jussi01 | (bluetooth) | 17:10 |
| EagleScreen | i havent tested in jaunty | 17:11 |
| EagleScreen | I obtain this in intrepid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107846/ | 17:12 |
| EagleScreen | glatzor what happens with kpackagekit inclusion? | 17:14 |
| wesley_ | Kmail doesnt work that good, setting it up is a pain in rhe ass | 17:14 |
| Riddell | jussi01: I've no idea | 17:17 |
| Riddell | EagleScreen: we're working on it | 17:17 |
| Riddell | wesley_: oh well | 17:17 |
| EagleScreen | well done, thanks | 17:18 |
| wesley_ | But kmail can act as icon to inform you if ou got new msg ( p unstable right noe ) | 17:19 |
| wesley_ | okay I think konqueror is the one causing the unstablenisch | 17:22 |
| wesley_ | It is using 1 gb of my memory | 17:23 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'm working on a SRU for kdebluetooth in 8.10. | 17:24 |
| wesley_ | Probaly because i was searhing on google maps | 17:24 |
| wesley_ | Is there a way to investigate cpu usage ? Systemmonitor isnt that logical | 17:27 |
| Riddell | ScottK: and tonio is doing jaunty? | 17:28 |
| ScottK | Tonio__ did already. | 17:28 |
| Riddell | so he did | 17:29 |
| Riddell | jussi01: ^^ go test | 17:29 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: oooh, cool. ScottK where are they? | 17:30 |
| ScottK | Jaunty is uploaded. | 17:30 |
| * ScottK is still in the middle of Intrepid. | 17:30 | |
| Riddell | jussi01: kdebase-workspace and kdebluetooth | 17:30 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: Im currently moving, so Ive only the intrepid machine. ScottK, please let me know when intrepid is done | 17:31 |
| ScottK | Will do. | 17:31 |
| ScottK | Riddell and apachelogger: Did you see <mathiaz> ScottK: If I don't come up with something by Friday, you can upload it. | 17:37 |
| * ScottK takes 'you' to mean apachelogger. | 17:37 | |
| vorian | nod | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: yes, I already have the package ready :P | 17:37 |
| Tonio__ | rgreening: for kpackagekit, the point is that our tarballs are outdated.. | 17:37 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 17:38 |
| Tonio__ | rgreening: you can use the "packagekit" ppa and it'll all work like a charm (technically at least...) | 17:38 |
| * ScottK notes he didn't say Friday where, so that could be pretty soon. | 17:38 | |
| Tonio__ | rgreening: couple of small issues on the policykit-kde side too | 17:38 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: Quebec I'd guess | 17:39 |
| * ScottK figures AET. | 17:39 | |
| ScottK | As soon as it's Friday anywhere, we're free to upload. | 17:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: feeling frustrated are we? :) | 17:40 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK fyi, the latest kdebluetooth disables the kbluelock... | 17:40 |
| vorian | so that's about 3:45 am EST thursday, right? | 17:41 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK is that of any problem for an SRU ? cause you'll break a feature... | 17:41 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Since we have no bluetooth now, any working at all is progress. | 17:43 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: ok. Do you know the ppa? | 17:43 |
| * ScottK considers a song to the tune of "Do you know the way to San Jose". | 17:43 | |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: Connection now manages Setting's lifespan. | 17:44 |
| ScottK | Doesn't quite work though. | 17:44 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: this commit could be fixing our networkmanager problem :) | 17:44 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: testing ;) | 17:44 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: cool. can we get a new package uploaded? | 17:44 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: :P | 17:44 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: yup | 17:48 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: btw, as it is mostly broken atm, I may consider provide daily updates for that one ;) | 17:49 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: whee!!!! :) | 17:49 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: testing the build localy and uploading | 17:49 |
| rgreening | I don't mind it blowing up on me, so I'll be able to test it as well. | 17:50 |
| rgreening | I'm most of the way thought updating the qt4-x11 build for 4.5.0-beta1 | 17:52 |
| smarter | rgreening: it'll be available for intrepid too? :] | 17:55 |
| rgreening | smarter: I'll be building specifically for jaunty. but I don't see why it wouldn't work for intrepid... I'll upload to my PPA to test/build and if all goes well, cp to testing or experimental later... | 17:57 |
| smarter | cool | 17:59 |
| jussi01 | Tonio_: did you break the nm plasmoid in svn? or should I be cleaning my builddir | 17:59 |
| Riddell | I doubt Tonio_ did anything in svn | 18:01 |
| Riddell | I don't think he has an account | 18:01 |
| jussi01 | ahh...ok :) | 18:01 |
| Riddell | sebas on the other hand, just broke it | 18:01 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 18:02 |
| jussi01 | ok | 18:02 |
| * jussi01 then decides to wait and see if sebas unbreaks it | 18:05 | |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: policykit-kde changelog : Fixed bug that was causing auth fail before even trying | 18:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: packaging and commiting | 18:14 |
| Tonio_ | jussi01 I can confirm it is broken atm... | 18:21 |
| Tonio_ | jussi01 a CMakeList.txt file is craped... | 18:21 |
| jussi01 | Tonio_: ahh | 18:27 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: rock on | 18:29 |
| Riddell | cor, aseigo is on #ubuntu-meeting | 18:30 |
| seele | eek | 18:30 |
| seele | what meeting is going on atm? | 18:30 |
| ScottK | Edununtu | 18:31 |
| ScottK | Edubuntu even | 18:31 |
| seele | ah hah | 18:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: uploaded | 18:32 |
| Riddell | backlog http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m5e4bfd0 | 18:33 |
| seele | that interesting, huh? | 18:33 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | bug 314016 | 18:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 314016 in kdesdk "Kate is useless for editing code which contains hebrew or arabic" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314016 | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that bug travelled quite a bit ;-) | 18:51 |
| NCommander | vorian, ping? | 18:52 |
| vorian | NCommander: we already chatted (about plasmoid-toggle-composition) | 18:55 |
| ScottK | aseigo does a good sell. | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | what is he selling? | 18:57 |
| seele | kde edu | 18:59 |
| Riddell | and plasma | 19:02 |
| ScottK | kedubuntu | 19:04 |
| Riddell | anyone feel like updating akonadi server tonight? | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Which sucks way less than edkubuntu | 19:04 |
| vorian | Riddell: already on it | 19:04 |
| JontheEchidna | kubuntu session in #ubuntu-classroom | 19:04 |
| Riddell | vorian: oh lovely, could you change mysql-server-5.0 to mysql-server-core-5.0 in the build-deps and depends ? | 19:05 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: why not kubuntu-edu ? | 19:05 |
| ScottK | maybe. | 19:05 |
| vorian | Riddell: sure thing | 19:06 |
| * ScottK wonders why Sput is filing bugs in LP on old PPA versions of quassel. | 19:06 | |
| rgreening | or kubedutu (pronounced 'could bed you too' and said with a smarmy brooklyn accent) | 19:25 |
| Sput | ScottK: I don't... | 19:26 |
| Sput | I have never files a LP bug in my life | 19:26 |
| Sput | *filed | 19:26 |
| ScottK | Sput: Odd. I guessed Bug #319697 was you. | 19:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 319697 in quassel "quassel crashes" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319697 | 19:27 |
| ScottK | I quess sputnik isn't an entirely obscure choice for a nick. | 19:28 |
| Sput | ScottK: I'd be Sputnick if I used my full nick :) | 19:29 |
| Sput | also I don't even use kubuntu :) | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Well that's what I thought. It was confusing. | 19:29 |
| Sput | hehe :D I bet | 19:29 |
| ScottK | BTW, did you see my crash bug? | 19:29 |
| Sput | probably not, I've been busy today | 19:30 |
| ScottK | OK, well it's in Redmine when you get to it. | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | wah | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | dj bobo! | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | remixed | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: what do we think of shoutcast? | 19:31 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: don't use them tbh | 19:32 |
| Nightrose | i mostly listetn o my own stuff | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | my own stuff is becoming boring :P | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: any music recommendations? | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: can't you amarok like make an album of the week service? :P | 19:35 |
| Nightrose | :P | 19:35 |
| Nightrose | listen to some counting crows | 19:36 |
| Nightrose | or yussuf | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | all listened too often | 19:36 |
| * apachelogger needs new and fresh and funky music | 19:36 | |
| * ScottK hands apachelogger some James Brown. | 19:36 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure how that relates to new fresh and funky :P | 19:37 |
| * vorian sends akonadi apachelogger's way | 19:37 | |
| apachelogger | oh dar | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | +e | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Could be new to you. | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: hm, possibly | 19:37 |
| * apachelogger could also explore the emo kind of stuff | 19:38 | |
| ScottK | That's really the only relevant metric for this case I think. | 19:38 |
| \sh | whoever provided the kde4.2rcX packages for intrepid...nice work all...thx for that...it looks awesome and runs much better then the old intrepid version | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 19:39 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "Schnappi (Original Schnappi Mix)" by Gruttmann, Iris | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | \sh: kde 4.1 was crap :P | 19:39 |
| * Sput listens to shoutcast all the time | 19:52 | |
| Sput | amarok has this nice shoutcast directory... | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: bug 319683 | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 319683 in amarok "Phonom Error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319683 | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | Sput: IMHO the dir sux | 19:52 |
| Sput | well yeah | 19:52 |
| * apachelogger thinks about rejecting that bug because he never heared of phonom :P | 19:52 | |
| Sput | but it's enough to put some streams into your pl without bothering much | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | Sput: not if you are me and very elite :P | 19:53 |
| Sput | ah right, forgot that one :p | 19:53 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: amarok is one big pool for stupid and displaced bug reports | 19:53 |
| * apachelogger doesn't even wana triage there | 19:54 | |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: tell me about it... | 19:54 |
| Nightrose | most of them are sooooooooooooo useless | 19:54 |
| apachelogger | "I confirm that problem. I use gutsy,amarok 1.4.7 kde 3.5.8." | 19:54 |
| Nightrose | Oo | 19:55 |
| apachelogger | why not reproduce it in Amarok 1.1.0 while we are at it | 19:55 |
| apachelogger | sure must be worth something | 19:55 |
| apachelogger | lol | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | jonny is having is talk right now | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | like no-one told me :P | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 19:57 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 19:57 |
| apachelogger | quilt push -a && quilt import -p2 -P kde_fix_something.diff ../upstream.patch && quilt refresh && quilt push && quilt pop -a | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ^ | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | refresh and push are for ensuring the -p2 is correct | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | ... for kdebase one would need -p3 | 19:59 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah yeah, all I had gotten to was "dpkg-source -x *dsc" when they told me I was on :P | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | being prepared is everything I guess ^_^ | 20:02 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, stupid daylight saving time | 20:03 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: now I know how to use quilt! | 20:03 |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 20:03 |
| * apachelogger thinks JontheEchidna should write a quilt tutorial | 20:03 | |
| jjesse | +1 from me | 20:04 |
| JontheEchidna | it's more like ln -s debian/patches patches; quilt push -a; quilt new patchname.diff; quilt add affectedfiles.cpp | 20:04 |
| JontheEchidna | quilt import -p2 -P kde_fix_something.diff ../upstream.patch && quilt refresh && quilt push && quilt pop -a | 20:04 |
| JontheEchidna | but the way I outlined in the talk works too, I guess :P | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: no | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | quilt import will make new and add pointless | 20:05 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | it will import the patch as it is | 20:05 |
| JontheEchidna | I didn't know that ^_^ | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | -p2 will ensure it applies properly with the different structure of KDE svn patches | 20:05 |
| JontheEchidna | I've been doing it the hard way then, eheh | 20:06 |
| apachelogger | yes | 20:06 |
| apachelogger | but works as well :) | 20:06 |
| JontheEchidna | yup | 20:06 |
| JontheEchidna | obviously, since I have gotten upstream to yell at me :P | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | yeah, true :P | 20:09 |
| JontheEchidna | here I am, teaching impressionable minds to ruin KDE software :D | 20:10 |
| JontheEchidna | accomplishing what years of GObjects, mono and Qt licensing FUD couldn't | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | tea => hot => tongue => burnt | 20:14 |
| * Nightrose bows before the mighty JontheEchidna | 20:14 | |
| Nightrose | :P | 20:14 |
| * apachelogger goes gets the cuddles | 20:14 | |
| Nightrose | awww | 20:14 |
| * Nightrose cuddles apachelogger | 20:14 | |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | hum | 20:15 |
| apachelogger | like what do you know ... me asking for cuddles but getting the respond "not noooow, I is watching ze tee veee" | 20:16 |
| apachelogger | in exactly that kind of inglish :P | 20:16 |
| * apachelogger must remember never to ask in english for cuddles | 20:16 | |
| Nightrose | :( | 20:16 |
| apachelogger | good thing I got Nightrose | 20:16 |
| * apachelogger hugs the Nightrose | 20:16 | |
| Nightrose | indööd | 20:16 |
| Nightrose | :) | 20:16 |
| ScottK | Well I got the 4.1.4 kdebase-workspace patch for bluetooth to apply. | 20:16 |
| vorian | yay | 20:17 |
| ScottK | quilt import was total fail for me at any level. | 20:17 |
| ScottK | quilt add [long list of files I grepped out of the patch] | 20:17 |
| ScottK | patch -p0 <../solid-bluetooth.diff | 20:17 |
| ScottK | quilt refresh | 20:17 |
| ScottK | did just fine. | 20:17 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: you need to understand the magics of quilt import before putting it to use :P | 20:17 |
| ScottK | Right, well the magic of quilt has me deeply missing dpatch-edit-patch. | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | well | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | how about batpatch | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | it is catchy | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | it is shorter | 20:18 |
| Stecchino | could anyone with KDE 4.1.3 kubuntu packages and amarok 2.0.1.1 please try thid: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181338 | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | it is ruby | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse XML returned by KDE: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error (http://bugs.kde.org/xml.cgi?id=181338) | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | fail | 20:19 |
| Stecchino | damn, forgot. b.k.o is broken for everyone | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | works for me | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | but I don't have 4.1.3 ;-) | 20:19 |
| JontheEchidna | b.k.o worksforme | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: do you have amarok2? | 20:20 |
| ScottK | No. | 20:20 |
| JontheEchidna | unfortunately I can't test at the moment because of mysql issues | 20:20 |
| ScottK | There's a reason I made vorian do all the work. | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 20:20 |
| ScottK | Plus Kmail is essential for me. | 20:20 |
| vorian | hehe | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | Stecchino: we are fresh out of 4.1.3 installations with amarok2 it seems | 20:21 |
| Stecchino | seems so | 20:21 |
| JontheEchidna | and I'm running 4.2 anyway | 20:21 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: do you have amd64? | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | Stecchino: maybe you find someone in #kubuntu or #kubuntu-testers | 20:21 |
| JontheEchidna | nope | 20:21 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian^ | 20:21 |
| vorian | i need someone with jaunty and amd64 please | 20:22 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: are you on jaunty? | 20:22 |
| JontheEchidna | yes | 20:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I just can't install amarok because I need kmail | 20:22 |
| vorian | can you see if the newest version of kdenlive segfaults on you | 20:23 |
| vorian | mine does not | 20:23 |
| JontheEchidna | kk | 20:23 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: lots of commits coming along networkmanager | 20:23 |
| Tonio_ | sounds good :) | 20:23 |
| JontheEchidna | aiee, /me turns on --no-install-recommends | 20:23 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: still ftbfs atm, so I'll wait for the build to stabilize to provide an update | 20:23 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: that's awesome. | 20:25 |
| Stecchino | JontheEchidna: kmail != amarok? | 20:25 |
| Stecchino | exuses me should be KMail ^ Amarok (XOR) | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | Stecchino: akonadi needs one version of mysql, kmail needs another | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | kmail needs akonadi | 20:26 |
| ScottK | See the Jaunty Alpha 3 release notes | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | er | 20:26 |
| Stecchino | amarok needs another you mean. I see, only on jaunty a problem? | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | akonadi needs one version of mysql, amarok needs another | 20:26 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna is seriously messed up | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, I am messed up today | 20:26 |
| Stecchino | JontheEchidna: nenver mind, Wednesdays will do that to you | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | ~order brain for JontheEchidna | 20:27 |
| * kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW! | 20:27 | |
| vorian | haha | 20:27 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: ok, just installed it and the startup wizard went just fine | 20:27 |
| vorian | hmm, ok | 20:28 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: A new brain? | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | ha | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | no, kdenlive | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | *scratching head* | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: kds would hide the startup wizard of a new brain I suppose | 20:29 |
| ScottK | Probably. | 20:29 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: well I hope it'll come to a point we can consider shipping with it.... I wouldn't do that atm :) | 20:30 |
| Tonio_ | anyone knows if the archives are frozen ? | 20:30 |
| ScottK | Just switch and then point everyone who screams upstream for motivation. | 20:30 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: No. | 20:30 |
| ScottK | They aren't frozen, not I don't know. | 20:30 |
| Tonio_ | I uploaded policykit-kde, one hour ago, about, and I still wait for the soyuz email.... | 20:30 |
| ScottK | Might be broken. Different issue. | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | maybe soyuz is hungry again | 20:31 |
| Tonio_ | hum...... i there a way to see the soyuz queue at some point ? | 20:31 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: yeah. Though I think the intent (from the author) is to make it available for distros shipping this spring (like us) and then more general in KDE 4.3 | 20:32 |
| Tonio_ | let work on k3b now ;) | 20:32 |
| Tonio_ | yep, the all target (ppp/3g, ad hoc and so on) is for 4.3 | 20:32 |
| Tonio_ | but just standard wireless/cable connections for 4.2 would be nice | 20:33 |
| Tonio_ | as for bluetooth, lots of things are gonna be added to 4.3, now they reached the kde3 functional level.... | 20:33 |
| Tonio_ | I just want something that works for the basics :) | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | new cup of tea => hot => tongue => burnt => Nightrose! | 20:33 |
| * apachelogger is close to start crying | 20:33 | |
| apachelogger | darn that hurts | 20:34 |
| Tonio_ | but of course, the "superkickass" release will be our next LTS, not before | 20:34 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: ^_^ | 20:35 |
| Tonio_ | tea is dangerous, true that... | 20:35 |
| Riddell | sue whoever made it | 20:35 |
| Tonio_ | a senseo coffee machine as one advantage : temperature is always the same | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: might seriously beat me up if I do that .... or worse ;-) | 20:36 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: isn't the microwave oven to blame ? | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | hm, not according to austrian law | 20:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what does to "sue" men ? | 20:37 |
| Tonio_ | aka blame ? | 20:37 |
| smarter | Tonio_: faire un procés | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | oui oui | 20:37 |
| smarter | :] | 20:37 |
| Tonio_ | smarter: ho ! speaking french ? :) | 20:37 |
| smarter | Tonio_: bah oui :p | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 20:38 |
| Tonio_ | we didn't do a french kubuntu day for so long.... | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | someone needs to write Tonio_ an update | 20:38 |
| Tonio_ | smarter: je savais pas que t'étais français :) | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: was replaced by german chitchat at some point | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | then that got replaced by english chitchat | 20:38 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: yeah, I figured that out :) | 20:38 |
| wesley_ | Is there something that needs to be tested ? Kind off doing nonthing right now | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | and now we are not productive anymore because everyone is just chatting | 20:39 |
| jussi01 | Tonio_: ping me if you notice a fix for nm gets uploaded | 20:39 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: I could have tel you to check out policykit-kde, bu soyuz sucks at some points.... | 20:39 |
| smarter | french kubuntu day? | 20:39 |
| * Nightrose hugs apachelogger | 20:39 | |
| Nightrose | poor guy | 20:39 |
| Tonio_ | jussi01 there is a fix for the cmake issue, but now there is a code problem :) | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | smarter: that is a day @ kubuntu -> french | 20:39 |
| wesley_ | stupid mac pro mouse has only opne button | 20:39 |
| jussi01 | Tonio_: hahaha :D ok. if you notice it gets to a working state... :D | 20:40 |
| ScottK | wesley_: Two finger drag on the touchpad and click gives you right click. | 20:40 |
| Tonio_ | smarter: when raphink was arround, since riddell speaks an very good french, it happened we used to go english all day long | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: I was more hoping for the cuddles, but fair enough *rug* <.--- all new word shortening rehug ... also looks more rubylike ;-) | 20:40 |
| Tonio_ | jussi01 yep, sounds nice :) | 20:40 |
| wesley_ | its a mouse, not a touhpad | 20:41 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: haha ok *cuddle* | 20:41 |
| raphink | Tonio_: tu racontes quoi? :p | 20:41 |
| smarter | ah, I probably wasn't there at that time :P | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | ha! | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | raphink is suddenly alive again | 20:41 |
| raphink | haha | 20:41 |
| raphink | :p | 20:41 |
| raphink | no I'm busy but my IRC client pinged me :p | 20:41 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: that you moved away a long time ago !! | 20:41 |
| raphink | Tonio_: what? | 20:42 |
| raphink | :s | 20:42 |
| Tonio_ | well you're not very talkative anymore :) | 20:42 |
| raphink | :'( | 20:42 |
| apachelogger | right, like not social at all | 20:42 |
| apachelogger | and that in this channel | 20:42 |
| Tonio_ | isn't that true ? :) | 20:42 |
| apachelogger | if we had an oven we would even do baking in here | 20:42 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: I still love you, don't mind :) | 20:42 |
| apachelogger | actually | 20:42 |
| apachelogger | ... | 20:42 |
| raphink | haha | 20:42 |
| wesley_ | Ive kind of a work around for the missing right click, just use short clicks | 20:43 |
| apachelogger | ~script add oven m.reply "oh! uh! time for some baking ... hooray :D" | 20:43 |
| kubotu | lemme take care of that for you | 20:43 |
| apachelogger | ~oven | 20:43 |
| kubotu | oh! uh! time for some baking ... hooray :D | 20:43 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 20:43 |
| apachelogger | now we can do baking :D | 20:43 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Would you please assign a minion to file a bug about updating Intrepid to 4.1.4? | 20:44 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: ping | 20:44 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I'd prefer someone writing a batscritp for that | 20:44 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: pong | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: wanna do some work again...? ;-) | 20:45 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Once I upload the bluetooth stuff I expect we'll have a lot of testers and I'd like us to be prepared. | 20:45 |
| jpds | ScottK: Do you have time for a main upload? | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | long term target should be a script though :P | 20:45 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK I tested quickly, seems to work correctly, at least for 4.2 | 20:46 |
| ScottK | jpds: Maybe. What is it? | 20:46 |
| smarter | ScottK: delegating people to delegate work, nice trick :P | 20:46 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: wich work? and how hard i have to work? | 20:46 |
| jpds | ScottK: bug #319656 - patch attached. | 20:46 |
| * ScottK has a bluetooth phone to test with. | 20:46 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 319656 in nmap "nmap script engine error" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319656 | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: file 20 bug reports to track update testing of KDE 4.1.4 | 20:46 |
| smarter | hey jpds | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: got a 4.1.3 example bug at hand? | 20:46 |
| jpds | hey smarter | 20:47 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Riddell filed the last set and had some magic LP url to find them all. | 20:47 |
| apachelogger | yeah, the url to bugs he filed ;-) | 20:47 |
| vorian | HI JPDS!!! | 20:47 |
| jpds | vorian: HELLO. | 20:47 |
| apachelogger | OMG | 20:47 |
| apachelogger | CAPS LOCK DAY AGAIN? | 20:48 |
| jjesse | zomg ponies | 20:48 |
| vorian | UNICORNS! | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | UNICORNS > PONIES | 20:48 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: c the query please | 20:48 |
| ScottK | jpds: That would take more thinking than I have available right now. | 20:48 |
| ScottK | Sorry. | 20:48 |
| wesley_ | yeah working mouse | 20:48 |
| jpds | ScottK: OK; I'll subscribe u-m-s | 20:49 |
| wesley_ | so whats the policykit-kde ? ive installed but whjere do i find it | 20:50 |
| wesley_ | yeah plasma crashed | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: Xand3r does that filing | 20:59 |
| apachelogger | feel free to beat him up if he doesn't finish in time :P | 20:59 |
| Xand3r | yes | 20:59 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Great. | 21:00 |
| ScottK | Xand3r: Thank you. | 21:00 |
| Xand3r | what? wich time? you didn't said something about time | 21:00 |
| ScottK | Depends on how long I spend wrestling with quilt, but soon is good. | 21:00 |
| Xand3r | hmm kk | 21:01 |
| neversfelde | is it possible to package beta software? | 21:03 |
| neversfelde | or better is it possible to upload it to jaunty | 21:04 |
| vorian | yes, and always | 21:05 |
| neversfelde | k, then I will try to make a package of kshutdown | 21:08 |
| Tonio_ | any testers for k3b ? | 21:10 |
| Tonio_ | I have no cds there to make tests... | 21:10 |
| neversfelde | Tonio_: is there an intrepid version? | 21:11 |
| Tonio_ | neversfelde: nope :/ | 21:12 |
| Tonio_ | neversfelde: but I can send you the source package if interested... | 21:12 |
| jjesse | Tonio_: is k3b a kde4 port? | 21:12 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: yes ! | 21:12 |
| Tonio_ | for jaunty, quick and dirty package atm, needs revu and splitting, but seems to start, at least for me :) | 21:12 |
| neversfelde | Tonio_: ok, why not. I have two cds left :) | 21:12 |
| jjesse | Tonio_: i can try it tongiht | 21:13 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: I will | 21:13 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening, jjesse: http://planetemu.net/temp/k3b | 21:13 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: I have a couple of hundred blank cd/dvd I can throw at it | 21:13 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: hehe :) | 21:13 |
| jjesse | 403 forbidden | 21:14 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: gimme a second.... I have to fix this.... | 21:14 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: gotta love buying in bulk | 21:14 |
| jjesse | costco? | 21:14 |
| rgreening | If anyone wants to test qt4.5.0-beta1, I just uploaded to my PPA (currently building) - https://launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive | 21:15 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: should be okay | 21:15 |
| jjesse | Tonio_: ok i'll give it a shot tonight | 21:15 |
| Tonio_ | neversfelde: that's a dirty source package, with svn in it and build as native, but it should build.... | 21:15 |
| neversfelde | so if there are enough other testers, I should wait for my upcoming jaunty upgrade | 21:16 |
| * raphink likes quassel :) | 21:17 | |
| ScottK | OK. Well kdebase-worspace with the bluetooth patch is finally building (4.1.4) | 21:17 |
| * ScottK wonders what gmm++ is and do we need it for 4.2? | 21:22 | |
| ScottK | Debian KDE-Qt team just uploaded it to Debian New. | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/batedit.ogv | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ^ something similar for batpatch maybe? | 21:23 |
| rgreening | how do you add the keys for lp ppas | 21:30 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: get added automagically | 21:32 |
| rgreening | hmm... | 21:33 |
| rgreening | compositing under jaunty is regressed for intel video | 21:38 |
| rgreening | slow as fark | 21:38 |
| rgreening | :( | 21:38 |
| === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| Tonio_ | rgreening: this is my only bg complain about kde4 in fact.... compositing is better integrated, but slower than in compiz | 21:40 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: it is actually worse now since I updated to Jaunty from Intrepid. It was quite usable under Intrepid. I think it's to do with needing newer dr/drm and intel video 2.6.0 | 21:41 |
| rgreening | the new kernel could be the issue, as it uses the new GEM | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | no | 21:45 |
| apachelogger | the issue is the new x | 21:45 |
| apachelogger | you are lucky that intel is an opensource driver and thus works considerable well :P | 21:46 |
| ScottK | Having systems with open source friendly drivers is not luck. | 21:46 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 21:46 |
| Tonio_ | anyone used to debug cmake build problems ? | 21:47 |
| Tonio_ | I get an issue I can't fix... | 21:47 |
| Tonio_ | settings/schemas/CMakeFiles/foo.dir/build.make:162: *** missing separator. Stop. | 21:47 |
| Tonio_ | the file is deleted during the build... | 21:48 |
| rgreening | ScottK: I have to agree. I consciously look for well supported hardware. | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: paste the cmakelists of settings/schemas/ | 21:48 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: ok | 21:49 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/107967/ | 21:49 |
| Tonio_ | I already checked, but can't see anything wrong in it | 21:50 |
| * apachelogger thinks Tonio_ doesn't know about batpaste yet ^_^ | 21:50 | |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: about what ??? | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | :D | 21:51 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: what's it ? | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: I really don't think that stuff related to "foo" ought to be there | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: a script to paste a file from shell | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/batpaste-1.ogg | 21:51 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: the thing related to foo is to be there, believe me :) | 21:54 |
| apachelogger | that is avery weird lib name I must say :P | 21:54 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: name is crap, true that, but I think this is temporary in fact | 21:55 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: well you know about libcaca or libcucu ? | 21:55 |
| Tonio_ | that's from a former DPL, french guy | 21:55 |
| Tonio_ | and the name literally mean : libpoo and libass :) | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 21:55 |
| Tonio_ | strange names do exist at some point :) | 21:55 |
| Tonio_ | ad those 2 libs are used by a software he worked on called "toilet" | 21:56 |
| Tonio_ | and that's NOT a joke ! | 21:56 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: the same guy wrote the WTFPL licence, btw | 21:56 |
| raphink | toilet is a proof of concept of libcaca iirc | 21:56 |
| raphink | to turn strings into ascii art | 21:57 |
| raphink | apachelogger: libcaca is also used for a plugin for vlc iirc | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | colorful names one might say | 21:57 |
| raphink | so you can watch videos in ascii art | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~kopf-alexander/+reportedbugs | 21:58 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: that's the very Sam Hocevar ;) | 21:58 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: but the guy is shinny, extremely skilled.... so... :) | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | :) | 21:59 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: k3b is looking ok. I am doing some testing now.... only thing is (like you said) the package needs to be cleaned up. I believe we do not use k3bsetup (it requires kdesu anyway) and of course splitting into k3b and k3b-data... | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: shouldn't it be like based on KDE 3's k3b packaging? | 22:06 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: yes, that's my point I guess.. :) | 22:07 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: but Tonio_ already knows that I am sure :'> | 22:07 |
| * apachelogger senses the dark side of the force | 22:09 | |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: have you been able to burn something ? | 22:11 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: the thing is k3b is a pretty complex packaging, lots of deps and so on | 22:11 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I wanted confirmation it worked before spending time making the packaging clean | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: fortunately you don't have to patch it dead | 22:12 |
| * apachelogger always fears kdelibs(4) will fall apart when he touches it ^_^ | 22:12 | |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: yep :) | 22:13 |
| Tonio_ | let's go for a clean package now !!! | 22:13 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-windowslist if you want to do something easy first ;-) | 22:16 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: I ripped a CD making an iso. No burn test yet... when I get home later tonight. | 22:18 |
| rgreening | ok, going home. will be back laterz | 22:19 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: hum... well I'm hot and it's late, so I'll probably concentrate on k3b now I have some kind of motivation ;) | 22:21 |
| neversfelde | /me needs a MOTU für looking at http://tinyurl.com/a7u6s7 | 22:21 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Could we have a tag for those, like kde4.1.4? | 22:24 |
| * ScottK just lost at chess to his 5 year old, so is clearly not up for anything complex right now. | 22:24 | |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: could ScottK have tags for the bug reports? | 22:30 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: you probably have time to do a plasmoid review, don't you? ;-) | 22:31 |
| * ScottK is up to his eyeballs in annoying children and bluetooth for Intrepid. | 22:31 | |
| ScottK | later tonight probably. | 22:31 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: tags? | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: there, send ScottK some cookies | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: edit the bug | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | the second to last input box is for tags | 22:32 |
| ScottK | And some babysitting. | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: add kde4.1.4 as tag to all bugs | 22:32 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: all 20 bugs? | 22:33 |
| Xand3r | gnaa why | 22:33 |
| Xand3r | you said there is nothing to do anymore | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | because ScottK can't define a project target properly :P | 22:33 |
| ScottK | Or if there's some other LPish way to do it, fine. | 22:33 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: thats mean, all 20 bugs | 22:34 |
| Xand3r | i do it only for you | 22:34 |
| * apachelogger gives Xand3r a hug and a kiss | 22:34 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: sure, if we had a script :P | 22:35 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: you are so genius make one | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | on my todo | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | more pressing matters right now | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: did you like pbuild kshutdown | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | +questionmark | 22:36 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: wich tag? kde4.1.4 ? | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: aye | 22:36 |
| Xand3r | kk | 22:36 |
| * apachelogger pokes neversfelde with his laser screwdriver | 22:36 | |
| * neversfelde sends cookies | 22:37 | |
| neversfelde | cookies for everyone :D | 22:37 |
| Xand3r | hi neversfelde | 22:37 |
| neversfelde | hei Xand3r | 22:37 |
| neversfelde | apachelogger: ok, whats wrong with kshutdown? :) | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | W: kshutdown: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/kshutdown | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: that is ^ | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | install kdesdk-scripts | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | run kdemangen.pl /usr/bin/kshutdown > kshutdown.1 | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | install that as manpage | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | maybe also tweak it a bit | 22:39 |
| neversfelde | apachelogger: thought that is not necessary, when there is no man kshutdown, choqoK is without manpage too? | 22:39 |
| neversfelde | ah ok | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: easy enough to create one if the app uses standard kde startup stuff | 22:39 |
| neversfelde | is it correct to create an absolutley new package or should I update the existing one? | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | same question, same answer :P | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: there is no point in creating a new package for changes on an existing packaging, don't you think? | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: also, debian/watch file would be of use considering the stuff comes from sourceforge | 22:41 |
| neversfelde | hmm, advanced task^^ | 22:41 |
| neversfelde | apachelogger: so it is better to update 1.0.2-1ubuntu1 | 22:43 |
| neversfelde | ? | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: no | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: you did not upload that version anyway | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: you are refining the revision | 22:44 |
| neversfelde | no, but I got doubt, when I saw k3b | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | a whole more complex story ;-) | 22:45 |
| neversfelde | k :) | 22:45 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: shit is done | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: if you only add debian/watch or manpage you might be able to find a nice motu to review and upload if he/she is ok with it | 22:46 |
| * apachelogger add a note to this advocation | 22:47 | |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: you know what ???? I mostly inished spliting k3b, and a bad rm -rf came out..... | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: language! | 22:47 |
| * Tonio_ cries........ | 22:47 | |
| neversfelde | apachelogger: will have a look at it | 22:47 |
| * apachelogger hugs Tonio_ | 22:47 | |
| vorian | meh, me updates strigi | 22:47 |
| Xand3r | Xand3r: language? what is that? never heard about it | 22:47 |
| Tonio_ | sometimes I HATE myself.... | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: you should make plenty of copies, or use a vcs, or just not use rm -rf lightly :) | 22:48 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: rm -rf *_* is generally fine ;) | 22:49 |
| Tonio_ | apache rm -rf *.* is a lot more dangerous in my case... | 22:49 |
| apachelogger | rm -rf is _never_ good | 22:49 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I should consider use a vcs, indeed | 22:49 |
| * apachelogger only uses rm | 22:49 | |
| apachelogger | rm -rf goes far too easy wrong | 22:50 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: bah, as long as the man typing isn't an asshole like me..... can be okay :) | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | no no, this got nothing to do that :P | 22:51 |
| tsdgeos | is luka renko here? | 22:51 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: not right now .... his nick would be Lure though | 22:51 |
| Tonio_ | tsdgeos: lure is not there.... | 22:51 |
| tsdgeos | ok | 22:51 |
| tsdgeos | anyone on jaunty can run a valgrind over okular and http://www.qtrac.eu/C++-GUI-Programming-with-Qt-4-1st-ed.zip this document | 22:52 |
| tsdgeos | he reports a crash but the gdb backtrace is quite weird | 22:52 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: could that be a poppler issue? | 22:53 |
| * apachelogger noticed that okular crashes on pretty much every pdf in jaunty | 22:53 | |
| tsdgeos | apachelogger: i'm with my poppler maintainer hat here | 22:53 |
| apachelogger | ok :) | 22:54 |
| tsdgeos | poppler 0.10.3 is totally fine here opening that pdf though | 22:54 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/108039/ | 22:57 |
| tsdgeos | apachelogger: can it be that okular hasn't been recompiled after poppler 0.8 -> 0.10 update? | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: entirely possible | 22:59 |
| apachelogger | lemme check | 22:59 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: indeed, didn't get rebuilt :) | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | *preparing upload* | 23:00 |
| tsdgeos | can you rebuild it? the backtrace doesn't make much sense either | 23:00 |
| neversfelde | is it possible to create a watch file with a zip packed source? | 23:00 |
| wesley_ | 720 p why does it ask so much off your system ? I Dragonplayer the sound doesnt go right, and vlc doesnt seem to handle it | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: don't think so ... get-orig-source would work better anyway | 23:01 |
| neversfelde | mhh | 23:01 |
| * ScottK votes after we get 4.2.0 done we build them all twice in a row to see if they rebuild. kdebase-workspace in Intrepid does not. | 23:05 | |
| vorian | ScottK: good idear | 23:05 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/4:4.1.96-0ubuntu2 | 23:05 |
| tsdgeos | so i can tell the man that try the new package when ready, right? | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: yep | 23:06 |
| tsdgeos | tx mate | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: thanks for pointing it out :) | 23:07 |
| tsdgeos | apachelogger: not sure it's the problem, but it's the only thing i can think of | 23:07 |
| tsdgeos | it's good to have responsive people on the distro side :-) | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: it very likely is, I started noticing this only a couple of days ago, and poppler 0.10 got uploaded jan 19 | 23:08 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I will not finish the k3b package before friday, and I'll require revu even if that could be avoided.... | 23:10 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: ready to help on that point ? | 23:10 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: 4 eyes are better than 2 for this one :) | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | we have 4.2.0 coming up... but yeah I should be able to help with that :) | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | vorian is doing the coordinator job anyway ;-) | 23:11 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: there is no emergency with k3b, since that's a svn snapshot, I'll commit a lot of packages before the release :) | 23:12 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I'll be full time available on friday, so if you need help for kde.... I can help :) | 23:12 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: also you ninjas might be organised your way... | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | that would mean spending that day to get a ninja envrionment ;-) | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas | 23:13 |
| Tonio_ | yep, that's my point.... but since I'm really back now, we'll have to do that one day :) | 23:13 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: things change too fast.... as was only offline for a few month.... and I feel lost in the processes :) | 23:14 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: but the team grown up considerably, which is really, really good :) | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | constant improvement on every aspect | 23:14 |
| Tonio_ | yeah, but it's hard to feel lost that quick, to be honnest :) | 23:15 |
| ScottK | If we can get the NM plasmoid and K3B done, we might have a KDE3 free CD soon | 23:15 |
| vorian | apachelogger: you have strigi mail, we'll need for kdelibs | 23:16 |
| Tonio_ | it'll take a couple of weeks before I feel really comfortable :) | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: all the more reason to not be offline for a few months ;-) | 23:16 |
| ScottK | Which means there's some hope of everything fitting | 23:16 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: that was not my choice :) | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | yah yah :P | 23:16 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: lost girlfriend and appartment, then went to some depression.... then back, and happy to live again :) | 23:16 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: but you know the story.... | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: we are good with therapies as well | 23:17 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK NM will be done for sure, no idea of k3b status, to be honnest | 23:17 |
| wesley_ | Losing your girl can make you really sick :( | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: Nightrose certainly has her tricks to make one feel better | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | oh, hold on that could sound wrong | 23:17 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: yeah, but at those moments, simply getting in front of the computer was a nightmare... | 23:17 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: haha | 23:17 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: and you don't have the details.... that break was particularly rude :) | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: good to have you back anyway :) | 23:18 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: a few month before getting married, in the meantime you're trying to have a baby, and have apparently not any problem | 23:18 |
| wesley_ | Thats ofcourse not good, but its teribel | 23:19 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: and you're announced she's been cheating with you for 7 month :) | 23:19 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: happy to be here again :) | 23:19 |
| * Nightrose slaps apachelogger | 23:19 | |
| * Nightrose hugs Tonio_ | 23:19 | |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 23:19 |
| wesley_ | Tonio_ I had that to with a girlfriend, your senses should had say you something ? | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: now that was completely unintentional :P | 23:19 |
| Nightrose | jaja :P | 23:19 |
| ScottK | wesley_: Please be nice | 23:20 |
| ScottK | wesley_: You've been warned before. | 23:20 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: nope, I'm good now | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: my bf always says "it just happened to sound weird" in such situtations | 23:20 |
| wesley_ | I mean it good ScottK, you read it wrong\ | 23:20 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: I have been able to understand I deserve a lot better than this | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: for some reason he ends up in a lot of those ;-) | 23:20 |
| Nightrose | hehe right.... | 23:20 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: I'm the good and nice person of the story | 23:20 |
| Tonio_ | but Riddell and seele saw me a couple of days after it happened.... it was terrible :) | 23:21 |
| wesley_ | Tonio_ Thats what I try to tell me when my ex left me, few months later she starts poping up in my head | 23:21 |
| wesley_ | My relation is on a break, I hope to make it up with valentijn day | 23:22 |
| * Nightrose thinks we should talk about nicer things | 23:22 | |
| Nightrose | like kpackagekit | 23:22 |
| Nightrose | or quassel | 23:22 |
| Nightrose | or k3b | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | kpackagekit = broken | 23:23 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: or sex ? ;) | 23:23 |
| wesley_ | k3b sounds okay | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | quassel = not finished | 23:23 |
| Nightrose | :P | 23:23 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: kpackagekit -> working with the ppa version, in the repos soon | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | k3b = borken, KDE 3 and not finished untested pre-alphaware | 23:23 |
| wesley_ | I can test kpackagekit, but k3b not, i dont have a dvd drive | 23:23 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: see - lots of nice stuff to work on ;-) | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: kpackagekit -> not finished then :P | 23:23 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: sure not | 23:24 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: anyway, jaunty will be released with unfinished components, ut that's life | 23:24 |
| * apachelogger is happy with whatever stuff we have in jaunty as long as the translations are flawless | 23:24 | |
| Tonio_ | the target is kick the harse of gnom with the next LTS, right ? ;) | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: well, 9.04 will be direct upgrade target of 8.04 (since we skipped 8.10 in the autoupdate) | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | so a considerable amount of usability should be available ;-) | 23:25 |
| wesley_ | Thats kind off disapoints me sometimes that for last 2 releases not everthing is finshed, but i have trust in 9.04 | 23:25 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: bah kpackagekit is not worse than what we had all those years | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | agreed | 23:26 |
| wesley_ | kpackage start | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | wesley_: software is never finished | 23:26 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: consider OSX 5 years ago | 23:26 |
| wesley_ | Lol | 23:26 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: not everything was finished, since the transition was really badly done | 23:26 |
| wesley_ | I had run 0s 9 | 23:27 |
| Tonio_ | they restarted from scratch at any point | 23:27 |
| * apachelogger counts on ubuntu for introducing a break in the foundations | 23:27 | |
| Tonio_ | they missed so many features and applications | 23:27 |
| Tonio_ | and what about now ? it's wonderfull | 23:27 |
| wesley_ | If you ask me Osx is not better then Linux, java doesnt work like it should | 23:27 |
| Tonio_ | we have to think about kde4 on the long term | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: reviews are done short term not long term ;-) | 23:27 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: osx is 10 times better than linux, point, nothing to be discussed there :) | 23:27 |
| wesley_ | What about the ugly blue shadows when composting is off? | 23:27 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: but nobody has to disable it :) that's the true story | 23:28 |
| wesley_ | I talking about kde 4.2 | 23:28 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: what about the horrible TTY when X.org is off ? same question | 23:28 |
| Tonio_ | ah ;) | 23:28 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: well maybe we should disable shadows by default.... | 23:28 |
| Tonio_ | they are making compositing a lot slower in any case... | 23:29 |
| apachelogger | can't | 23:29 |
| apachelogger | they are necessary for oxygen | 23:29 |
| wesley_ | I havent reported anything to kde, but those shadows look ugly when composting is off | 23:29 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I diable them, and didn't see any problem | 23:29 |
| apachelogger | the one and only reason you have these blue frames when compositing is off | 23:29 |
| apachelogger | people where complaining about not being able to differ where one window starts and the other ends | 23:30 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: what do you mean by "necessary" ? | 23:30 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: if we turn them off people will come complaining about that again | 23:30 |
| wesley_ | But still that blue line doesnt look nice, and Kwin doesnt work properly, because intel drivers are f@#ked off, they perform way below | 23:31 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I don't see that "start/end" point ? | 23:31 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: what's the story ? | 23:31 |
| wesley_ | Kpackage-kit seems not to fetch the sources | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: the problem is that oxygen is designed for displays with good contrast, with desktop effects turned on and a certain color setting | 23:32 |
| neversfelde | ah get-orig-source | 23:33 |
| neversfelde | :) | 23:33 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: if the parameters change flaws by design appear, such as window frames not being very good to differ on crappy displays without desktop effects | 23:33 |
| wesley_ | Should i provide the konsole out put off kpackage kit ? | 23:34 |
| * apachelogger needs to go to bed | 23:35 | |
| apachelogger | ~order bed | 23:35 |
| * kubotu is placing a cot for apachelogger in the corner of #kubuntu-devel. | 23:35 | |
| apachelogger | nini | 23:35 |
| * wesley_ needs to travel trough time | 23:35 | |
| wesley_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/108048/ Kpackage doesnt seem to be configured right, and the state i see it is in, its useless, the sources are fetched, and can find any packages | 23:38 |
| Tonio_ | good night everyone... | 23:47 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: that's known issue, and a problem with packagekit itself... | 23:47 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: the packagekit ppa has valid and working packages, they'll be in the archives soon | 23:48 |
| wesley_ | Okay, I just though lets take a look | 23:48 |
| * Tonio_ beds, btw | 23:48 | |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: you are right, since those are in the archives :) | 23:48 |
| Tonio_ | and you couldn't know about the ppa :) | 23:48 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening, apacheloggeranother major upload for NM plasmoid ;) | 23:49 |
| wesley_ | hehe, I know kpackage kit from fedora, but if you ask me it was slow | 23:49 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, wesley_ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-January/003590.html | 23:49 |
| Tonio_ | 30 new files in the svn | 23:49 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: great ! | 23:50 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: will you consider uploading kpackagekit or want me to do it then ? | 23:50 |
| wesley_ | thats much, but i never look at those pages, I am a normal user, i see me as a advanced user | 23:50 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: current svn snap ftbfs, so maybe your package is the one to upload :) | 23:50 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, actually I am not very familiar with KDE. So perhaps you should do this. | 23:51 |
| wesley_ | Its KDE that I still use Linux | 23:51 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: no pb | 23:51 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll keep the package on your ppa and your your bzr branch in the future instead of the kde's | 23:52 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: probably better to maintain this way then | 23:52 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll upload tomorrow, no pb | 23:52 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: I think packagekit isn't slow on fedora | 23:52 |
| Tonio_ | yum probably is ;) | 23:52 |
| Tonio_ | or the packagekit-yum backend ^^ | 23:53 |
| wesley_ | yeah can be, but it taked not long and i was installing kubunyu | 23:53 |
| wesley_ | kubuntu is still one of the more default kde | 23:54 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: I also use fedora | 23:54 |
| wesley_ | I use osx and kubuntu | 23:54 |
| Tonio_ | great distro, but globaly slow, also not as much as opensuse :) | 23:54 |
| Tonio_ | I use windows XP, 2003, OSX, kubuntu, ubuntu, fedora, opensuse and vista :) | 23:54 |
| wesley_ | but havent loggen in anymore on osx | 23:55 |
| Tonio_ | but well, I'm a kind of nerd when doing this | 23:55 |
| wesley_ | Tonio on a pc ? | 23:55 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: I have a mac, with osx, vista and kubuntu installed | 23:55 |
| Tonio_ | and I use VM for the others | 23:55 |
| wesley_ | Ah okay, i have a intel atom 330 | 23:55 |
| Tonio_ | and on a regular basis I mostly use windows XP, osx and kubuntu | 23:55 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: ah.... :) | 23:56 |
| wesley_ | I didnt even fix grub to add osx | 23:56 |
| Tonio_ | impressive | 23:56 |
| wesley_ | Its still there though | 23:56 |
| Tonio_ | does it work well ? | 23:56 |
| wesley_ | Yes works like a sharm, but only mic doesnt work, everthing else works ( You know its osx 8x | 23:57 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 23:57 |
| Tonio_ | I kinda love osx, but as I decided to boycott apple, I'll have to stop using this now :) | 23:58 |
| wesley_ | Its not really something they like that you talk about, anyway I have my acer running to osx, bought me a usb wlan for 20 and have internet now | 23:58 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 23:59 |
| Tonio_ | well I'm sorry but it's really late in france.... I have to go sleep ! | 23:59 |
| wesley_ | But on the atom works kind off out of the box, with a osx86 distro | 23:59 |
| Tonio_ | seya tomorrow | 23:59 |
| wesley_ | 00:59 here | 23:59 |
| Tonio_ | wesley_: same here :) | 23:59 |
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