# /srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/01/21/#kubuntu.txt

Dragnslcr faileas Dragnslcr faileas- if they resolve to the same IP address, no. Protocols only work with IP addresses, not hostnames (HTTP is a kind-of-sepcial exception) 00:03 Dragnslcr: erf. thanks, someone was asking me to help host a second IRC server for his network, but i'm unwilling to give up the independance i have on mine ;p 00:04 There's more than one port reserved for IRC, so you can run more than one server using different ports 00:07 People connecting to the servers would just have to know what port to use 00:08 I have the new open office3 installed on my kubuntu 8.10, but for some reason, the KDE integration isn't working.. there are no icons, everything is text.. (for example, the big B now says "bold"... the table image says "Tables".. colors are all weird..  How can I fix this problem? 00:11 phoenixz: Whatever theme you have selected isn't installed. 00:14 I don't remember the package name, hold on. 00:14 buckethead: theme? you mean KDE theme? or you mean that openoffice also has its own themes? 00:14 openoffice theme. Go into openoffice prefs/setup/whatever and figure out what theme your set to. 00:15 My 'Sound Blaster' sound card has just stoped functioning. All volume sliders are turned up, pulse and KDE4 still detect it, the speakers are still working (tested seperately). But I hear nothing. Not even cating /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp does anything. Help? 00:16 phoenixz: Whatever it comes out to be, do 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-style-whateveritis' then restart openoffice. whateveritis set to whatever theme is selected, of course. 00:17 buckethead: that would be in tools > options?? Don't see it anywhere 00:17 hi 00:19 Can anyone help? 00:19 monolith: if you'd ask a question, I suppose we could yeah.. 00:20 ah 00:20 phoenixz: Yes. Under openoffice->view iconsize and style, its probably human thus 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-style-human' 00:20 monolith: missed it :) 00:20 alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device 00:20 :( 00:20 monolith: alsamixer mute got me several times. I would poke that. 00:21 :( 00:22 buckethead: poke that? If I run "alsamixer" it shows the pulseaudio volume slider. It's at max and isn't muted. 00:22 === jammen33 is now known as jammen === jammen is now known as jammen33 Ok, thats not it then. I tend to be a little non-technical in my phraseology. 00:23 buckethead: That's okay, I need all the advice I can get to try and fix this. 00:23 monolith: the problem is most likely pulseaudio; turn it off and see if things work better for you 00:24 turn it off? 00:25 as in the opposite of leaving it on 00:25 Well, yea. I'm just trying to remmember how. Is it 'sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop"? 00:25 monolith: under audio devices in systemsettings 00:26 although I believe what you said or something like it would work as well 00:26 Yea, tried that. Didn't seem to stop it... Hold on... also I'm under KDE4 by the way. 00:27 monolith: you'd also have to enable the direct audio device at the same time 00:28 someone help me :~ 00:28 Okay I killed pulse with the 'exit' command in pacmd. 00:29 monolith: okay, in my systemsettings, its under multimedia > device preference > audio output > music 00:30 Even running "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" gives me nothing. 00:30 that should pull up a list of devices 00:30 and I've tried running test on the device itself before. 00:30 still no joy. 00:30 monolith: I take it the card has worked in the past? 00:30 p_quarles: Perfectly 00:31 Right up untill a kernel update and a reboot. 00:31 monolith: you still haven't convinced me that you have enabled another device as well as disabling pa 00:31 I didn't mention before out of not wanting to flood the chanel that I have two cards. The other is an integrated crappy thing that KDE4 uses for system notifications. That works fine. It's just the sound blaster that nothing works from. 00:32 monolith: have you tried selecting it from the menu I mentioned? 00:33 The sound blaster directly. yea 00:33 okay; still didn't work? 00:33 Yea, nothing. Test button gives no sound still. 00:34 hmm -- was the kernel update a new version or just a patch?> 00:34 Amarok 1.4 doens't use KDE4's preferences for audio output device anyway does it? I mean, I use amarok as my main music player. 00:34 if the former, you could test to see if it's the kernel 00:34 and it was from 2.6.17-9-generic to 2.6.17-11-generic. Oh I'm on 64bit if that's relevent. 00:35 I think it does, since there are hard limits on what a single audio device can do 00:35 How do you mean? 00:36 I mean I don't think you can have multiple drivers controlling the same card 00:36 in any case, what Ubuntu version are you on with such an old kernel? 00:36 Oh I typed it wrong sorry. It's 2.6.27 not 2.6.17 Sorry my mistake. 00:37 oh, okay 00:37 monolith: well, since it's a version change, you should still have the old kernel available in the grub menu, and you should be able to boot to that 00:38 since this is the major change, I would see if that's the issue before anything else, really 00:38 Okay I'll give that a crack and come back. I don't think the binary nvidia display drivers will like me much for that though so I may be contacting you next from the command line. 00:39 yeah, binary blobs do make things complicated :( 00:40 === ag_ is now known as AhmedG hmm 00:41 I mean hello 00:41 I am trying to get to the #kde-devel list 00:41 using konversation 00:41 but I'm a bit confused as to how to do so. 00:41 I am used to gnome and the gnome client made it very easy to access chat rooms on freenode 00:41 click where it syas #kde-debel perhaps? :) 00:42 or try /join #whatever 00:42 p_quarles: Weird. It works perfect now. pulse + phonon are playing nicely, the sound card works perfect. Hell, even nvidia's binary blob played nice and didn't refuse to start the x-server due to a diffrent kernel version... 00:46 monolith: well, I actually haven't upgraded to 27-11 yet; can't wait to see what happens 00:47 p_quarles: Have fun. You don't have a sound blaster do you? 00:47 no, Intel HDA; you said the integrated one worked for you, right? 00:48 I need help with the weather widgit in KDE 4.2 rc1 under intrepid. What location should I type in? a zip code, a city name or what? 00:48 Yea, my integrated is an intel HDA I think. It's an nvidia board though. 00:48 monolith: I'm not seeing a new kernel; is this in proposed? 00:48 p_quarles: Quite possibly... I think I remember enabileing preposed when I was fiddleing with my package manger... that'll be it... 00:49 monolith: well, that's what you get for running pre-release - seriously, though, this sounds like a bug that the developers should be aware of; if you have time to go to launchpad, please consider it 00:50 Okay. I've turned off perposed. I guess I'll just use 27-9 for now. And I'll do that. Sorry for not mentioning that, I just wan't playing attention when messing with Adept's settings. 00:51 how can i configure Kopete ? 00:52 rigth  click on the kopete system try icon 00:53 to do what? 00:53 to add a user on yahoomessenger 00:54 then click on 'configure' 00:54 Kopete->Settings->Configure->Accounts ... 00:54 Hello! What to google for if I want to add a new partition to my system (it was previously windows ntfs, now its free space), and I want it to have all the /home/ directories? Will just simple copying and changing mountpoint in gparted work? 00:54 after ... ? 00:54 click add account 00:55 === gnuton is now known as Gnut[OFF] p_quarles: How do I submit the bug then? I found the package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic but I don't know how to use launchpad. 00:55 i do that 00:55 oops, sorry, missed it -- I want all the /home/ directories on the new partition of course, and not on the old one... because it's  running out of free space 00:55 bigos: just use gparted to format and add a mount point -- you can use the live cd 00:55 monolith: you'll need to create an account, and then there's a button in the bugs section to "submit" 00:56 Oh okay 00:56 marcel: select yahoo 00:56 monolith: its a little messy, but you'll get there - it's also good about checking for dupes 00:56 marcel: and click next 00:57 === marcello is now known as jsurfer on Account Preferences i must to set option Override default server info ?? 00:57 no 00:57 ok 00:58 I need help with the weather widgit in KDE 4.2 rc1 under intrepid. What location should I type in? a zip code, a city name or what? 00:58 p_quarles: will every user home directory be automatically copied, or do I need to do this manually? Or is it even possible and won't destroy my files? 00:58 I tried my city and my zip code and it said it din't exist 00:58 bigos: so you want the free space added to /home? you can do that if the space is contiguous 00:59 Is the bugs section for the whole of intrepid or just for this package? 00:59 White_Pelican: is it the lcd weather? 00:59 yes 00:59 White_Pelican: i cant get it to work for m ether 01:00 ah 01:01 guess it's still broken 01:01 ty 01:01 have you tried yawp(yet another weather plasmoid)? 01:01 no, is it a widget or a program in the repository? 01:01 its a widgit 01:02 p_quarles: something like that... In fact, now everything is on the one partition -- including /home... I've got vast free space, which I want to use as a NEW /home, but I would like to save every file from the old location, and free the space at the same time. I wonder if changing mountpoint to the newly created partition and just moving files to it would work? 01:02 White_Pelican: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=94106&forumpage=0&PHPSESSID=4a5e6e798f283066007b9c3965912d0c 01:02 monolith: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug 01:03 and it should be filed against the kernel, with as much information as possible 01:03 bigos: like I said, if it's contiguous, you can do that by expanding the current /home partition 01:04 p_quarles: Yea, in the advanced version you can select the package. I did there. 01:04 bigos: if it's not, then the easiest thing is to reformat 01:04 bigos: either way, it would be foolish not to backup all data before doing the partition work 01:04 monolith: just the kernel should work 01:04 Oh, should I change it from the spesific version I used? 01:05 jammen33, is there a deb? looks like I would have to build it 01:06 no, including the version; the maintainers will likely have followups and/or tell if you need to file against a different package 01:06 Right. I'll leave it with the package set to "linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic" 01:09 p_quarles: It's not contiguous ... There is a swap partition between current location and the free space. Unfortunately, my whole installation is done on the single "/" mountpoint, and there is everything on this partition. What I want to do is to export /home to another one ;). Sorry for bad english. So, you say there is no easy way to move this and not to break anything in the system? Would messing around with swap break anything? All 01:09 important data is safe, I just want to avoid configuring the system all over again if something goes wong 01:09 bigos: oh, so you want to *move* the entirety of /home to the new partition? yeah, that can be done 01:11 hi all, can anyone tell me how to find the gid of a group? 01:11 White_Pelican: http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ubuntu/pool/main/p/plasmoid-yawp/plasmoid-yawp_0.1.65~jaunty~ppa3_i386.deb 01:11 I'm running Intrepid 01:11 you using kde 4.1? 01:12 or 4.2? 01:12 === SPhcT is now known as Rencx 4.2 01:14 p_quarles: so, it's just like "mv -R oldhome newhome" and no other configuration needed? Or would it be automatic after a mountpoint change? Or how would I address the *old home* if the new home would be /home ? ;) I would like to know this now, before I start messing with partitions table 01:14 i think it will work 01:14 im using intrepid kde 4.2 and i installed it 01:15 bigos: you want to move the files from $OLDHOME to$NEWHOME and delete the old /home directory before running off the installed OS 01:15 bigos: the good news is that you can do that all from the live disk 01:15 guys 01:16 bigos: basically, the partitions would have the correct mount points in /etc/fstab, but having two /home directories would confuse the filesystem; I don't know what would happen 01:16 any way to convert an AVI in MJPEG to AVI in DIVX? 01:16 on linux, of course 01:16 a nice program todo that? 01:16 oh... ;) yeah, I haven't thought of that it can be done right off the livecd ;) thank you! 01:17 ffmpeg can convert about anything to anything else. 01:17 i was thinking mjpeg and divx were like.. very close to being idencical 01:18 Dr_willis: divx compression makes a much smaller file without sacrificing much quality at all 01:18 video encoded with the DivX codec is an MPEG-4 video stream 01:19 Dr_willis: for example, a 10 minute screen recording encoded with mjpeg is 433 mb vs 97 mb with divx 01:19 kdebluetooth4 errors on startup "The name org.openobex was not provided by any .service files" is this a bug? 01:20 DivX Media Format is analogous to media container formats such as Apple's QuickTime. In much the same way that media formats such as DVD specify MPEG-2 video as a part of their specification, the DivX Media Format specifies MPEG-4-compatible video as a part of its specification. 01:20 divx is not a codec  - exactly   - its a container..  from what i recall reading. 01:21 guys, I want a GUI program for a *noob* 01:21 I know my way around mencoder 01:21 mencoder can convert most things to other thigns also. :) 01:21 Rudd-O: i don't think we have anything that is easy for noobs for format conversions really 01:22 mencoder is capable of converting .unobtanium files into .avi 01:22 :/ 01:22 moocow: I'm gonna hit you with a privmsg 01:22 lol @ .unobtanioum 01:22 nice 01:22 i tend not to bother with format conversions much 01:22 i just find ways of getting existing programs to play the format 01:22 the point  i was tryingto make 0 is that   Unles sim gettting terms confused again.. a mjpeg - basically is the same format as a divx  both are mpeg4 01:23 Dr_willis: file sizes often differ 01:24 * Dr_willis googles the wiki pages some more. 01:24 the file size would differ based on the  video/audio codecs they both are using. 01:24 n multimedia, Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) is an informal name for multimedia formats where each video frame or interlaced field of a digital video sequence is separately compressed as a JPEG image. It is often used in mobile appliances such as digital cameras. 01:24 === emanuel_ is now known as Manuli meh 01:25 ok.. m-jpeg is the a very low compression scheme used for things like real time recording/streaming in low power situations it seems 01:25 :) not the same as mpeg4 01:25 i still find divx encoding (as in files with the actual .divx extension) to give me a much reduced file size without noticeable loss is quality 01:26 thats most likely due to the  container divx file using H.264 for the codec. Not the actual use of .divx 01:27 Hi. Is there a known problem about Xps computer with a desactivated soundchipset and a soundblaster working but not under version 8.10? 01:28 Dr_willis: either way, it works very well for youtube videos 01:28 i had no problem with the 8.04 01:28 Youtube? Now thats not divx or mpeg-4 at all.. from what ive seen Youtube videos normally look nasty.  but it could bew the specific videos 01:30 I think :) 01:30 i dont seem to be able to get my head around ,how to cause a upgrade from kubunntu8.04 to kubuntu 8.10i downlooaded 8.10 from a mirror but loost it in my files ,was going to burn it to  a iso 01:30 so nobody got problem with the fact that their soundcard stop being "discovered" in version 8.10? 01:30 unadvertized feature? hehe 01:30 my soundcard is borked to all hell 01:30 but cant i do a strate upgrade 01:30 so i cant say anything about soundcard issues 01:31 f5om adept mmanger 01:31 get this one, my soundcard is absolutely nuts 01:31 for some reason 01:31 anything known about amsynth and kde4 not working 01:32 when speakers are plugged into my soundcard, it doesnt work, but when headphones are plugged in, it works 01:32 that's weird lol 01:32 plug speakers outlet into socket. 01:32 yes it is 01:32 at least it works a bit at some point 01:32 :D 01:32 sure it's not the speakers? 01:33 Anyone knows how to reput yourself in the sudo user list I removed myself don't ask me how lol 01:33 id realy  like to get this upgrade 01:33 Salut à tous 01:35 can  anyone help mme to get a upgrade started 01:35 Salut lemouton mouah 01:35 8.04 to 8.10 01:36 upgrade what? 01:36 i am all cault up with my update with 8.04 01:36 id like to upgrade to 8.10 01:37 ah 01:37 just donnt know how to cause it to happen 01:37 === jthomas is now known as eljefe http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/kubuntu/intrepid/kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso i downloaded this ,but lost it in my files 01:39 on my mmachine 01:40 hiiiiiiiiiiiii 01:41 can some buddy help me? 01:42 can some buddy help me?can some buddy help me? 01:42 the question is ,is someone welling 01:42 can some buddy help me? 01:42 maverick: What do you need? 01:42 can some buddy help me? 01:42 maverick: wiith> 01:42 ? 01:42 could anyone please help me out. I'm running kubuntu 6.06..it is all I had to install. I'm trying to upgrade to interpred.  Updated the sources, now I'm getting E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libc6 for findutils, probably a dependency cycle. 01:42 lunar-raven: That is quite an old version, not sure upgrading from there is the best option 01:43 no help here 01:44 lunar-raven: Here is a walkthrough to perform the update to 8.04. 01:46 lunar-raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades 01:46 lunar-raven: after you get to hardy, the update to intrepid is a piece of cake 01:47 Thank you jpe. I'd just download the new version..but my cd burner died. 01:47 Thanks jpedroza :) 01:47 lunar-raven: I hate it when hardware fials 01:47 me too =( 01:47 p_quarles: Is this an acceptable bug-report? :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/319440 01:47 lunar-raven: Let me know if I can be of any more help 01:47 not that I did much 01:49 :) 01:49 lol will do jpedroza. Thanks again 01:49 monolith: I'm not a developer, so can't speak for those who actually fix the bugs, but that's a lot of presumably useful detail; at the very least, its detailed enough that the maintainer/triager will be able to do something with it, even if that means asking for further details 01:51 Yea, the bit about my audio setup might not be strictly nessicary, but all the guides about writeing bug reports say it's better to have too much detail than too little. 01:57 how exactly does one run debug binaries? /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/* don't have +x set, and setting +x and running them with kdesudo results in malformed errors :/ 01:58 err syntax errors 01:58 halow 02:04 hi 02:06 === alipio is now known as squidy hoq are u? 02:06 how are u? 02:06 good 02:06 you are from where plz? 02:06 washington state usa 02:07 wow it is too far away from france 02:07 what os are you using? 02:08 kubuntu 8.10 02:08 i have ubuntu 02:09 and seems cool 02:09 what is your job plz? 02:09 why? 02:09 just asking 02:09 i am "maçon" house builder 02:10 im going to college and dont have a job rigth now 02:10 cool 02:11 how old are then? 02:11 20 02:11 verry good i am 34 02:11 washinton dc is a big city 02:12 i   live in north est france in a small town 02:12 i live in noth west usa in a medium town 02:13 have you been to france befor? 02:14 no 02:14 ok 02:14 what is your feeling about obama like president of the united states 02:14 idk i think he might be ok 02:15 i have to go i'l bbl 02:15 ok 02:15 take car 02:15 === moocow is now known as holycow How would I view all the user accounts on my comptuer? 02:23 explore /home folder 02:23 or use kuser 02:23 or /etc/passwd 02:25 Thanks guys. 02:26 hey guys 02:27 any idea how to corret error 1: when booting ubuntu? 02:27 Is ubuntu the only OS on your Hard drive? 02:29 nope trying to dual boot with windows 02:29 tried doing without wubi tried with wubu 02:30 *wubi 02:30 even tried partitioning some space with gparted 02:30 then tried to install again 02:30 hell i even tried to use sgd get any sort of file on the new partition 02:32 no luck with anything yet 02:32 hola 02:34 buenos dias 02:34 help. wifi-radar not working. Error: Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory) 02:34 Snoopy_Corleone: you have to edit the grub file. 02:39 ok how would I go about doing that? 02:40 i get error 1: when i boot it 02:40 then it takes me back to a list to boot from 02:40 how do you access root 02:46 * Snoopy_Corleone sighs 02:49 Hello everyone! I just installed kubuntu onto my Eee 900, and the sound doesn't work. Should I reinstall? 02:49 no, you should look for repos online with dirvers for the eee 900 02:49 hey guys are there any rooms dedicated to the removal of malware? 02:50 holycow, they came across with ubuntu, though 02:50 Snoopy_Corleone: #windows probably 02:51 trying in there. 02:51 actually there's a specific distro for the eee 02:51 Snoopy_Corleone, go to download.com, install AVG and adaware...and scan / remove with that 02:51 tried 02:51 Snoopy_Corleone: windows channel, read the topic 02:51 Snoopy_Corleone, which version? 02:51 winctrl32 is pretty persistant 02:52 avg w/e newest version is 02:52 faileas, which version? 02:52 Snoopy_Corleone, or just google the problem. thats what i always do 02:52 Marfi: naw, there's a mention of a load of useful apps for that on te windows channel ;p 02:52 i never seem to have much luck with google lol 02:52 i've tried a lot of different stuff 02:52 Snoopy_Corleone, winctrl32 removal works for me. =) 02:53 i'll try that then 02:53 anywho 02:54 i am still having issues booting ubuntu >.< 02:54 what languages? 03:06 oh, sry - wrong position...-[ 03:06 how do you access root 03:07 Demarco: in a command line type "sudo" 03:08 demarco sudo command 03:08 command being whatever you want to do as root 03:09 thankyou 03:10 np 03:10 rebonjour 03:12 je cherche à regarder la tv avec tvtime 03:12 j'ai 2 entrée composite 03:12 il n'en reconnai qu'une... 03:12 so i ran lspci to see if I could see my audio card on my eee 900...and im not seeing it. any ideas? it works in ubuntu 03:12 !fr 03:13 Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr 03:13 ioki 03:13 sorry 03:13 ;-) 03:13 === blindman_ is now known as BlindMan101 !x11 03:15 The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution 03:15 hi, is it possible to define which console with printk setting 03:17 for example all the kernel log to /dev/tty8 03:17 does anyone have any ideas about kubuntu + normal sound on an eeepc? 03:19 ça promet ;) 03:25 http://books.google.fr/books?id=XJStF4p9RvkC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=kernel.printk&source=web&ots=Xn4k_r9In2&sig=KHXkn7Mlm0siXvMXQ7XvV16I8gc&hl=fr&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPA41,M1 03:25 i am such an idiot 03:25 i disabled the sound in my bios 03:25 lol 03:28 sorry not the good chanel 03:30 how is kde4.2rc? 03:34 sounds 03:34 anyone know if its good? 03:34 im using kde4.2 03:35 jammen: cool. do you like it? 03:35 so far i dont have any promlems 03:35 nice 03:36 its better then 4.1 03:36 i also use 4.2 RC1 03:39 nice 03:40 like it? 03:40 not all the plasmoids work tho :( 03:40 im on kde 3.5.2 right now lol 03:40 so out of date 03:40 KDE 4 is not mature than KDE 3 03:40 and still KDE 4 does not have ALL functions that KDE 3 has 03:41 KDE 4 is less mature than KDE 3, KDE4 still has small issues 03:42 =( yeah it's a bit behind..oddly 03:42 can you change the theme yet? I havent used it for ages 03:42 I didnt like all the black 03:42 but i still like it better 03:42 === johnny is now known as Guest38645 yes 03:42 but most of the themes are black i think 03:42 ahmed 03:43 ag 03:43 whoooooooooops 03:43 KDE 4.1 and 4.2 have Aya theme, which is while-gray 03:43 white-gray sorry 03:43 === Guest38645 is now known as johnny__ === johnny__ is now known as jd622115 look this screenshot http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21494165/instantanea2.png 03:45 also clean-blend, which is white-blue 03:45 i have heared that qt 4.5 will come some graphical fixes 03:46 i think KDE 4.2 is usable, but it is less mature and less stable than KDE 3.5.10, and has some less functions 03:47 === Roy_Muzz is now known as Roy_M hello.  i just got a new drive, and i would like to get some suggestions for a partition table setup. 03:48 what are you using the drive for? 03:48 it's a large drive, 500gb.  I was thinking 2gb swap - 10gb root - rest as /home, but can anyone suggest something better? 03:48 it's a SATA drive, to replace the 2 ailing EIDEs i've currently got in my machine. 03:49 I suggest 15 GB of root, for the future 03:49 EagleScreen: *nod* that's reasonable.  2gb swap good enough?  machine has 2gb physical ram in it. 03:50 maybe a partition for common files like a music collect if you share the computer with others 03:50 SilentDis: yeah, 2GB swap should be more than reasonable 03:50 jammen33: actually, i've got a server box that my music resides on. 03:50 and if you are going to use virtual machines as like as virtualbox to run another operating systems, i'd set 4 GB swap partition 03:50 kk 03:50 and the rest for home 03:51 does Dolphin crash for anyone a lot 03:51 mot me 03:51 negative 03:51 every time I download something in Firefox, for example, Dolphin crashes 03:51 not* 03:51 EagleScreen: ahh, thanks for that.  i was just starting to toy with VBox.  good to know. 03:52 are you using KDE 4.2 03:52 now, once the drive warms up (it was sitting in sub-zero conditions for a while), and i get it installed, what's the easiest way to go about the switchover?  I know just copying /home to the new /home will work, should i just reinstall the OS though? 03:53 then you will need much swap, so each operating system running in the virtual machin will eat much of RAM 03:53 i am using 4.2 03:53 SilentDis reinstall OS in root / partition, but you can reuse your old home partition, by moving file to the new 03:55 mv command will conservate your file permissions 03:55 EagleScreen: yeah, that's what prompted this.  i have 2 drives in the box, one failed entirely (had / on it).  I had a 20gb partition for windows on the 2nd drive, and seeing as i've not booted windows in nearly 2 years, i wiped it and rescued my machine that way.  home has always been on hdb2 03:56 i did some SMART tests on the drives, both are rather old, and both are starting to fail tests.  time to upgrade :) 03:56 yes 03:57 install the new disk and keep the old hdb2 disk temporary 03:57 then run a Live CD for instance, and move you home data in hdb2 to your new 500 GB disk 03:58 yeah, when i bought the motherboard, it was an 'upgraders' board.  EIDE and SATA interfaces, etc. 03:58 then you know what to do 03:59 aye.  just needed some partitioning suggestions more than anything else 03:59 i suggest: 4GB for swap; 15 GB for root /; and the rest for /home; this is if you dont want another for /boot 04:01 a partition for /boot is not necessary 04:01 yay, useless windows software disks for a hard drive.  i always need more coasters. 04:02 godbye 04:03 can someone help me? I can't get a hard drive partition to mount 04:04 girevikmoto: are you getting an error or some such? 04:05 kio_media_mounthelper "permissions denied" 04:05 a breaker popped earlier, and when i reset it, and booted the computer... it wont mount anymore 04:06 im the only user on this computer 04:06 never had a problem before with it mounting 04:06 girevikmoto: hmm... can you get to a cli? 04:06 all my other drives mount fine, after i put password in 04:06 yes, ive got konsole open 04:06 amarok, why is the love button diabled? 04:07 i'd say try mounting it from there, the errors are usually a bit more telling 04:07 what command should i be using? 04:07 girevikmoto: what's the drive's location? 04:07 /dev/sda5 04:08 whats the mount point 04:08 /media/ 04:08 girevikmoto: sudo mkdir /media/tempmount && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/tempmount 04:08 i have my hdd broken into three partitions, one for the OS, one for everything else, and one for swap 04:09 === ekobono is now known as gudeg girevikmoto: then, see if you can't see the files in /media/tempmount 04:09 (i have only been using linux for 5 or so months btw) 04:09 how do i do that? 04:10 girevikmoto: no prob.  just copy and paste that whole long string into the CLI. 04:10 girevikmoto: oh hehe, i'm ahead of myself :)  cd /media/tempmount 04:10 heh thought i was going nuts for a second 04:11 girevikmoto: then, use ls to see if it lists anything 04:11 thats makes more sense :) 04:11 girevikmoto: you have to be a little nuts to use linux.  you know, who would want a stable, nearly virius-proof OS? *snicker* 04:12 it says "no such file or directory" 04:12 girevikmoto: sudo mkdir /media/tempmount && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/tempmount 04:13 girevikmoto: copy and paste that whole line into the CLI, and hit enter at the end.  it'll make the directory, and try to mount the drive 04:13 === keres_ is now known as keres that worked 04:14 i can browse the file tree now 04:14 girevikmoto: ok.  rock on, the drive didn't die.  we just need it mounted somewhere you can get at it normally now. 04:15 yeah i thought it was the drive for a moment.. untill i realized that if the drive had died, i wouldnt be typicng right now 04:16 because the OS is on another partition of that drive 04:16 girevikmoto: first, unmount it. cd ~ that'll get you out of that directory, and back home.  sudo umount /dev/sda5 that'll unmount the drive 04:16 okay 04:18 its unmounted 04:18 have you edited a /etc/fstab file before? 04:19 no... i tried editing fstab before i got on the irc though 04:19 lets give it a more 'permanant' home though first.  what's on that drive? 04:20 i commented out the line for sda5, and then tried writing a new mount point for it 04:20 on the drive? most of my music and assorted other media 04:20 hmm... can you paste in the old line for sda5 please? 04:20 just that one line, so as not to arouse the spam filters heh 04:20 /dev/sda5 /media/disk auto nouser,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 04:21 that should work fine.  just uncomment it. 04:21 girevikmoto: you can safely delete your other entry, as well. 04:22 gives the same error as before 04:22 "permissions denied" 04:22 doesnt ask for a password first either 04:22 ahhh, sorry, i misread.  go back into your /etc/fstab, and change it from nouser to user i believe. 04:23 "[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab" 04:24 "mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist" 04:24 hmm....  sudo mkdir /media/disk 04:24 success! 04:25 are you using some special program for mounting, or just the KDE 8.10 stuff with dolphin? 04:25 girevikmoto: rockin' :)  i'd recommend giving it a more comfy 'home' though, such as /media/multimedia or the like (make the directory, then update fstab), even set it to auto (remove noauto) etc, if you use it a lot :) 04:26 lovely, breaker popped again 04:27 thank you for the help! partition mounts again with no problems 04:28 i would use less stuff on that breaker :) 04:28 oh.. SilentDis logged out? 04:29 yeah, its the space heater ... im trying to figure out what outlet is not on the same breaker as my computer 04:29 hey guys 04:29 just over clock your computer 04:30 would 8.04 be more likely to be compatible with a computer than 8.10? 04:30 get more speed and heat your house 04:30 eh.. its only for tonight.. the heat should be fixed tomorrow 04:30 just waiting on maintainence to come back 04:30 does anyone know how to change which directory is the home directory? 04:31 Traveler: it would be better for older computers because kubuntu 8.04 uses kde 3.5.10 04:31 sorry i got logged 04:32 it would be better for older computers because kubuntu 8.04 uses kde 3.5.10 04:32 my comp isn't particularly ol 04:32 *old 04:32 i just can't seem to boot 8.10 to save my life 04:32 how far will it boot? 04:33 well originally i got thrown into terminal 04:33 however, now 04:33 i hope kde 4.2.0 is a major improvement... i tried kde 4.1 and wasnt impressed 04:34 it just boots error 1: unnamed path not found 04:34 * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go 04:34 i've tried a bunch of stuff 04:34 sgd, gparted,.. 04:34 girevikmoto: what didnt you like about kde4.1 04:34 Traveler2: i dont know 04:35 hm 04:35 i created another partition 04:35 any idea on how I can install it directly to the partition 04:35 can you boot 8.10 off the live cd 04:36 no. 04:36 well correction 04:36 sometimes i get thrown into terminal 04:37 sometimes it doesn't boot at all 04:37 usually just comes up with a bunch of random errors 04:37 and scrolls more or less endlessly 04:37 are they crc errors? 04:37 mainly that it was confusing.. this was when i was transitioning from xp to kubuntu.. i had used kde3 on a livecd and liked how it was organized, kde4 is quite different 04:37 yea 04:38 at the time kde4 felt very much like what it was and is.. a work in progress 04:39 kde4.2 is better then 4.1 it has much more configuration options 04:39 Traveler2: are they crc errors? 04:40 i like using bleeding edge developmental releases, but not for my main desktop 04:40 back again x.X 04:46 I've got a strange issue with kde. It's not correctly sizing my desktop. The resolution is set correctly, but the desktop is expanding beyond my screen edges (ie the pannel is off the bottom of my screen). 04:47 Any help? 04:47 what version of kde are you using? 04:47 4.2 rc1 04:47 anyway my comp is an hp nc 8430 dualcore 2.61 ghz and an ati mobile x1600 gfx card 04:48 so its not too old >.< 04:48 no one seems to be able to figure out whats wrong .. 04:48 no its better than mine 04:48 It wasn't doing this untill I enabled a second x session on my other monitor (which runs at a different resolution). 04:48 have you tried multiple cd or just using the same one every time 04:48 However, X seems to have the resolutions correct, as my mouse behaves correctly on the edges and everything appears right on login. 04:48 same cd. 04:49 i'm about to burn an 8.04 . 04:49 maxmahem: what video card do you have? 04:49 one sec... 04:49 nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7800 GT] 04:49 Traveler4: it could be that the disk did not burn right at that is causing errors 04:50 ah well i'll burn a different one 04:50 i'll write it at 16x rather then max hopefully that'll help 04:51 maxmahem: you have them set up for diffrent x sessions? 04:51 Traveler4: it should 04:51 if the cd was the problem 04:51 yes. I don't have a windows mannager running over there right now, but it appears to be working fine. 04:51 in the xorg.conf file it migth have set a virtual screen size larger than the resolution 04:52 I don't think so, but let me check... 04:53 nope no resolutions set in xorg.conf at all. 04:55 ok 04:56 are you usiing the nvidia prioritary drivers? 04:58 yes. 05:00 === tweaked is now known as TweakedEH === TweakedEH is now known as TweakedEh hacking things... going to reboot x and try 'em. 05:08 Well that didn't make anything worse, but it didn't fix things either. 05:10 this is vexing, I'm going to install compiz and see if its kdm falt. 05:10 something has to be wrong in kde because it doesn't happen at my login... 05:12 yeah, switching to compiz fixed it. It's definetly something wrong with kdm/kwin or something. 05:13 After kubuntu is installed is it possable to make your swap bigger? 05:21 yes, but its a bit of an ordeal. You have to repartition you system. 05:23 would it be easier just to reinstall? 05:24 Would it be worth it? 05:24 To up your swap? The install does a pretty good job of partitioning it out on its own. 05:25 heh, last time I let kubuntu do partitioning on its own, it didn't even create a home partition 05:27 How many partitions does linux have by default? 05:27 I don't call that "pretty good job" 05:27 TweakedEh: depends on your distro and/or your taste 05:28 TweakedEh: I suggest / ,  /home and swap 05:28 some will also claim /boot 05:28 at least if you split home you'll be safe for future reinstalls, to keep your user data and configs 05:28 uga: So if I were to partition it my self I should have /boot, / , /home? 05:29 yes 05:29 and swap 05:29 although I never use /boot 05:29 so it's not a big deal. 05:29 not for me at least 05:29 some people use it for keeping their kernels there 05:29 I don't think it makes much sense 05:30 I have a 300GB hard drive, to be save how much should I let / have? 05:30 some older distros alsol had a separate /tmp partition, but it was only troublesome (if it was full for some reason, the system may not boot) 05:30 TweakedEh: no matter how much crap you throw in software, I doubt you'll go beyond 20GiB on / 05:31 TweakedEh: maybe some games can help you go over that 05:31 so the rest is left for swap and home 05:32 uga: Alright, I'm not too interested in games. Thanks for you help, Time to reinstall =] 05:32 i need help with my wireless. i have an intel 3945 wireless card, and it only work occassionally. It works in windows, and a belkin card works fine in kubuntu. 05:32 TweakedEh: I've got 2-3 versions of the kde desktop installed in /, all sort of soft, including developer soft, bug no games. After a few years I haven't gone above that 05:33 ouch 05:33 hello 05:33 anyone around? 05:34 nobody here but us chickens. 05:35 i8042.nomux=1 05:35 Any ideas on the wireless problem? 05:41 and i just realized i have no sound 05:50 === a_ is now known as ahwhat i8042.nomux=1 06:14 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger_work http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/linuxvideoconverter 06:24 hi 06:26 Does someone manage to install Firefox on kubuntu ??? 06:27 yes, using Adept 06:29 ? 06:30 how 06:30 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger_work === txwikinger_work is now known as txwikinger2 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger_work === txwikinger_work is now known as txwikinger2 mooo 06:37 === tweak is now known as TweakedEh Where's the cafe channel for off-topic chat again? I want to ask things about openSUSE and other distros 06:44 !cafe 06:44 Sorry, I don't know anything about cafe 06:44 lol 06:44 thought it was worth a try 06:44 syockit: #defocus or #linux i suppose 06:44 !info cafe | lunar-raven 06:46 Package cafe does not exist in intrepid 06:46 :P 06:47 If you have experience in openSUSE, can you tell about yast and whether delta-rpm is used for all packages or not? 06:52 syockit: try the opensuse channel 06:55 === a_ is now known as ahwhat faileas: it's quiet over there. What time is it in the USA? 06:56 i'm not in the USA 06:57 I am 06:57 in washington 06:57 (and yast is a flaming pile of.... its the main reason i stopposed using opensuse ;)) 06:57 and it's almost 11 pm 06:57 yast rocks 06:58 it's sluggish and heavy 06:58 but helpful 06:58 lunar-raven: i was using smart at the time 06:58 Uh oh. I may not like it sluggish and heavy 06:58 * faileas dosen't see the point of something sluggish and heavy for basic maintainance of packages 06:58 heh 06:58 well yes, for package management I agree 06:58 oh, and the version of suse i was on was 10.1 ;p 06:59 but yast has other uses if ciyrse 06:59 (broken yast ;p) 06:59 of course* 06:59 Though I still don't know how to properly use adept 06:59 same here faileas..i've heard it's speed has improved greatly since 06:59 syockit: i don't use adept, i stick to apt ;p 06:59 cool 06:59 oldskoolstyle ;) 07:00 I like adept :P..but apt is cool for just getting it done fast 07:00 (ironically i started using apt with mandriva... ) 07:00 cause i couldn't stand... (you guessed it) the package manager it came with 07:00 It's just  that I keep forgetting the parameters for it, having to crank the man page each time really bugs me 07:00 adept notifier is kind of helpful, but usually when I see there are packages I just update with aptitude 07:00 mandriva..yeah I don't like their package manager either. 07:00 syockit: its not that hard 07:01 i don't like with adept that it asks you to enter root password before opening, even if you just want to browse packages 07:01 Maybe I ought to print them and post it somewhere on the wall 07:02 Strange that I've actually used it many times, but they fail to reside in my memory 07:02 oo updated kubuntu..must reboot 07:03 brb 07:03 sudo apt-get update to check for updates, sudo apt-get upgrade to upgrade. apt-cache search to look for a package, apt-get install to update ;) 07:03 Okay, I think I'm giving up the idea of migrating. Most packages don't have deltas it seems. 07:04 what would be the easiest way to upgrade from hardy to Intrepid 07:10 !intrepid 07:11 Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is the current release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 07:11 lunar-raven: $sudo do-release-upgrade , is one way 07:11 I actually just did that..but i dont think it upgraded to intrepid. I was using a way old version of kubuntu 07:12 how do i check what version im using? 07:12 haha 07:12 === Gnut[OFF] is now known as gnuton yeah..it upgraded to hardy 07:13 and when I run the command again, it says there is no new version 07:13 lunar-raven: hmm. How do you know it's a way old? GUI? 07:36 lunar-raven: or if you migrated from KDE 3.5, you probably have to relogin with different session 07:37 === desti_T2 is now known as desti #dba 07:54 does anyone know of a comparable application or the source of a repo i can use to get bluej 08:12 === lunar-raven is now known as sadpanda === sadpanda is now known as sad-panda hi all.. and good morning 08:40 is there any information, that in kde4.2 are nvidia graficcards better supported? in 4.1.4 i have always same problems, blinking clock, taskbar entries and diffrent other strange grafical problems.. 08:41 Hi I'm trying to install my nic card and the instructions I'm following say to "apt-get install linux-source" but I have no internet.... any ideas how to get the package w/o internet. 08:59 hello? 09:02 dmmainou: wait, why? 09:02 === anthony is now known as Guest83626 dmmainou: It's not bundled with the installation? 09:02 hi syockit .... thiese are the instructions I'm following http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Realtek_8168 09:03 Do you have another media? like USB drive or something 09:04 yes 09:04 it requires some compiling, and that also requires installation of more tools. 09:05 It's ok I have the recepie... I hope I can follow it 09:06 It is the integrated nic card... no option unless I buy something else. 09:07 I'm checking if it's already in the kernel or not 09:08 Which version of Kubuntu? 09:08 7.1 09:08 It's my first linux mce... 09:08 I think that's a 7.10. So it's another distro... 09:10 You'd probably have to download a number of packages to be able to compile 09:10 upon uname -a 2.6.22-14 09:10 Okay, I'll try to go through this step by step 09:11 Mate thanks so much.... 09:11 Which recipe are you following? The one you gave before? 09:12 by the way... I'm connecting through my laptop running k 8.1 if that helps (2 months ago decided to leave vista and havent turned back since) 09:12 yes that one... 09:12 does anybody now a tool to diff/merge files/dirs over ftp? 09:15 tool for kde? 09:15 there was kdiff3, but it's not in the repos now.. 09:15 dmmainou: by the way, have you tried if you can execute make or not in that computer? 09:20 yes, I have done every step succesfully ntill the apt-get 09:21 dmmainou: Nice, don't have to bother with tools anymore 09:21 I trust that that meant something good. I'm an accountant but discovered this thing called ubuntu and here I am learning a Very nice hobby. 09:23 dmmainou: You need to download linux-source from a repository 09:24 ok... how do I do that? 09:25 dmmainou: first, select a location from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors 09:25 dmmainou: Then go into pool/main/l 09:27 dmmainou: pool/main/l/linux-sources-2.6.22 09:27 === AliTarihi1 is now known as AliTarihi if you managed to get there, download linux-sources-2.6.22_2.6.22-14.46_all.deb 09:29 copy it to your usb drive, and copy it to your mce 09:30 Then sudo dpkg -i the file 09:30 ok I'm there ... which files 09:30 !info kdiff3 09:30 Package kdiff3 does not exist in intrepid 09:30 ok downloading.... 09:32 why is kdiff3 not in intrepid? it is a really good diff/merge tool.. also over ftp 09:34 noaXess: reason is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdiff3/+bug/260326 . Get it here: https://launchpad.net/~tsaarni/+archive 09:36 It's even got the latest 09:37 syockit: aha.. thanks.. :) 09:37 nice 09:37 love 09:37 syockit: done 09:40 dmmainou: You've dpkg -i it? 09:40 said something about setting up linux.... 09:41 yes 09:41 Okay, you can continue the steps in the guide 09:41 mate I owe you a beer.... anywhere Sydney, Oz 09:42 oh wait, about the patch... 09:42 yes... 09:42 dmmainou: too bad I don't drink 09:42 It'd be nice if you prepare the patch beforehand and copy it to the mce 09:42 we'll you get my gratitude. 09:43 not exactly sure what you mean. 09:43 well, along the steps, there's this 'patch < r8168.diff' 09:45 you'd need to the file out if you don't have it already 09:45 it's not that difficult anyway without the patch. You just need to edit the files 09:46 How far have you got? 09:47 ok I tried to follow the next step "apt-get linux-source" 09:47 invalid operation 09:48 but I presume we already did that right? 09:48 sorry mate first time compiling... 09:49 Yup, can skip apt-get 09:49 Go from cd /usr/src 09:49 within /usr/src there are two files 2 headers 1 source 09:51 I suppose that the cd... and the tar... are two different steps? 09:53 when I tar it says can not open not such file 09:53 should I give the whole directory? 09:54 yes that was it... the screen is going mad 09:54 forgot to sudo... repeated the step... 09:55 ? 09:55 ok I have been succesful until where it says "make scripts prepare" 09:57 also needs sudo 09:59 ok it came out with errors. 09:59 long list 09:59 I'd love to have you paste bin that, but that'd take a long time 10:01 ah, run it again. this time should be shorter 10:02 same thing. 10:02 What kindof message? 10:03 keywords 10:03 scripts/basic/fixdep.c: (a number): then a warning or error e.g.incompatible implicit declaration.... 10:05 errors are important. what kind of errors are there? 10:05 can I email the script to you I pasted it to kate... 10:06 please use pastebin 10:09 sorry what is pastebin? 10:10 save it to file, bring to the net computer, copy the contents to paste.ubuntu.com 10:10 done I just made a mistake in my login dmainou rather than dmmainou 10:13 Nicolae, de unde esti? 10:13 hello. everything about kubuntu is working great except i dont know how to make the laptop search for wireless connections. is there something that needs to be turned on or downloaded in order to get the nic card to connect to the wireless router? 10:13 dmmainou: please paste the url here 10:15 http://paste.ubuntu.com/107683/ 10:16 All right I can pretty much guess what's missing 10:17 some other packages... 10:17 Eutychus: do you know which wireless card you have? 10:18 Eutychus: also, is the wireless card listed when you click on the network icon in the system tray? 10:19 hi all 10:19 i have really big problems with kubuntu since kde 4.x 10:20 with backingstore = .true. 10:20 there are severall threads in the forums but ... hmm actually the problem is not solved 10:20 anybody interested ... ? 10:20 jussi01 sorry, back... wlan0 is listed but not by name. it is a nic card. i can reboot the computer and go into the bios to find out what the exact card is,. 10:21 dmmainou: Can you copy the output of 'dpkg --get-selections' to pastebin? 10:21 Eutychus: no need for that 10:22 Eutychus: if you click networkmanager - new connection - wlan0 does it have the networks? 10:22 yes give me a sec 10:22 surfjunky: believe backingstore needs to be disabled for nvidia driver wiorks with ati driver? 10:23 actually the first time I did it it gave me errors but the second time I did it with sudo and it just returned the prompt. 10:24 there are also some problem with ati reported on the internet however as you have mentioned mostly linked to nvidia driver i tried the latest one 180.22 the problem remain persistent ... 10:24 * fidji ne joue plus au Go 10:24 the most funniest solution you can find for this big and severe BUG is that you have to turn of backingstore which is the final solution 10:24 === richard is now known as Guest65055 however does not work for scientists since we rely on this feature 10:25 jussi01: network settings in system settings? 10:25 dmmainou: you mean the make command? 10:25 Eutychus: no, the tray icon 10:25 dmmainou: or dpkg? 10:25 dpkg.... 10:25 surfjunky: yes ati r3xx hardware still not supported by restricted drivers 10:26 jussi01: k. when i click it all the fields in the new connection are blank. 10:26 gave some erros... but tried again with sudo and gave back the prompt... 10:26 Eutychus: ok, please go to terminal and do: lspci 10:26 then find the name of the wireless card 10:27 robin0800: the funny think it is in certain forums moved to a Xserver problem however GNOME works fine with NVIDIA + Backingstore so it is most likely linked to kwin 10:27 === JackWinter_ is now known as JackWinter i wonder why the developers of kde or kubuntu think it is a minor problem 10:27 jussi01: k 10:29 surfjunky: I think the tight deadlines mean that difficult problems are sidelined to concentrate on the release 10:30 dmmainou: by the way, the second dpkg (with --get-selections), have you got it? 10:30 hmm i see 10:30 actually i must run now gnome + 4.x 10:30 no...its no longer on the pipe... 10:30 using ubuntu ... ahh i got stuck in this system configuration problem ... i cannot work anymore i am just configuring my OS since the last 6 weeks ... 10:31 do you want me to run it again? 10:31 dmmainou: on the pipe? I mean, what's the output? Or maybe do it this way... 10:31 jussi01: k. lots of bash code, and now the prompt. 10:31 Eutychus: could you paste it into a pastebin? 10:32 surfjunky: the fix to the r3xx hardware problem was to stop hardware manager offering the restricted driver! 10:32 !paste | Eutychus 10:32 Eutychus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) 10:32 if I scroll up it is no longer there... 10:32 dmmainou: cd ~; dpkg --get-selections > installedPackage.lst; kate installedPackage.lst 10:32 i see ... with linux it is never boring ... thanks for conversation ... 10:32 Hello. Who could help with a wifi / firefox problem? 10:32 !ask | suisse_indi 10:33 suisse_indi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) 10:33 dmmainou: if you see lots of package names with installed on the right, copy installedPackage.lst over to pastebin 10:33 connection to a wifi network is established. firefox displays: can not connect to server. whats wrong? thanks for your help 10:35 === quassel205 is now known as goirix jussi01 k. it will take a moment i have to plug the laptop into the router with another computer's cable. 10:36 suisse_indi: is firefox in offline mode, is the wifi network online? 10:37 suisse_indi: does the connection say activated in the taskbar 10:37 suisse_indi: have you tried other webpages? 10:37 network is online. firefox is online 10:37 === vampyre_ is now known as vampyre069 konquerer is the same 10:37 cd ~; dpkg --get-selections > inno packages found matching installedPackage.lst 10:38 suisse_indi: open a terminal and do: ping google.com 10:38 sorry 10:38 no packages found matching installedPackage.lst 10:38 sorry again bad spelling. 10:38 dmmainou: um, did you miss the 10:40 deborah: :) 10:40 So I repeat again 10:40 !paste 10:40 pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) 10:40 cd ~; dpkg --get-selections > installedPackage.lst; kate installedPackage.lst 10:41 http://paste.ubuntu.com/107695/ 10:42 no I missed a : 10:43 ; 10:43 jussi01 sorry this has taken so long. i put (deborah or eutychus) as the name, in text ,,and pasted the code. and hit enter. i hope i did it right. 10:48 deborah: now give the url to me ;) 10:49 dmmainou: this time you'd need libc6-dev and linux-libc-dev 10:49 url? :( 10:49 ok Imin the page ... 10:49 === standa is now known as standa_ dmmainou: you can get it from where you got linux-sources deb. By the way, libc6 is under /libc folder, not /l 10:50 jussi01 http://paste.ubuntu.com/107697/ 10:50 dmmainou: and linux-libc-dev is under /l 10:50 I pressume that 2.6.22.14.46 just like last time... 10:51 sorry the url was whited out because a went to an all black theme that doesnt work well with ff. 10:51 deborah: have you installed the restricted drivers for that card (kmenu, system, hardware drivers) 10:51 jussi01: i dont think so. 10:52 deborah: that would help 10:52 jussi01 how do i do that? 10:52 deborah: go to the kmenu, system, hardware drivers... ;) 10:53 dmmainou: yup 10:55 looking for libc6 under /pub/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/ no luck... 10:55 hmmm 10:55 btw need to confirm version as well 10:55 === KennethP_ is now known as KennethP sorry it's in glibc under g 10:57 jussi01 k. i activated the two drivers listed. 10:57 By the way, you can find them at packages.ubuntu.com 10:57 deborah: does it work now? 10:57 but wait, need to confirm versions 10:57 jussi01 no, it reads: no carrier 10:58 Hi, I can't find the Settings -> Configure -> ... option to change the treshhold for "monitor for silence" in Konsole 2.1 (KDE 4.1.3). Where can I change this treshhold? 10:59 Eutychus: it might need the service to be restarted, but I cant remember which one. easiest just to do a full pc restart 10:59 jussi01: k rebooting laptop 10:59 dmmainou: please do 'dpkg-query -s libc6 | grep Version' 11:00 it just said that "this package includes shared versions of the standard c library 11:01 ? 11:02 I installed 7.1 i386 11:02 yes thats it 11:02 dmmainou: was Version with large V? 11:02 How do I change the treshhold for the "Monitor for silence" option in Konsole 2.1 (KDE 4.1.3)? The docs say "By default, after 10 seconds of inactivity, an info icon will appear on the session's tab." -- how do I increase this period? 11:02 no 2.6.1-1ubuntu9 11:03 jussi01: still no carrier 11:03 dmmainou: okay, download the appropriate libc6-dev dev from /g/glibc 11:04 Eutychus: so when you go to the network manager icon, new connection, wlan0, no networks appear in the dialogue? 11:04 === acid420 is now known as aCid420 jussi01: correct, all fields are blank. 11:05 Eutychus: and you are sure there are wireless networks in range? 11:05 dmmainou: hmm, there're two types it seems. one with cpu on the end and one after the word dev. 11:06 jussi01: i am right next to the router 11:06 dmmainou: Get this one libc6-dev_2.6.1-1ubuntu9_i386.deb 11:06 dmmainou: and afterwards, dpkg -i the two debs you downloaded 11:07 Eutychus: not sure where to go from here atm. sorry 11:08 === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde np. 11:10 Eutychus: no eth0? 11:10 Eutychus: sorry, was wireless eh 11:10 since wlan0 is there, I suppose the wifi card is working 11:11 the router is not stealth or something? 11:12 syockit: yes, eth0 works but the wlan0 wont read anything. 11:12 hello world 11:12 syockit: router is secured (it needs a password), but it is broadcasting to the whole block. 11:12 my kubuntu seems to block each time I start it 11:13 no mouse moovement, nosting 11:13 nothing* 11:13 why,why,why? 11:13 I've got libc6 the other one can't find it under l 11:13 Eutychus: how about manually entering the ESSID? 11:13 not even ctrl+alt+backspace seems to work 11:14 nothing 11:14 dmmainou: you mean linux-libc-dev? wait... 11:14 what a nasty system 11:14 yes 11:14 syockit: i am not sure what an essid means. i am smart enough to be dangerous, but not smart enough to make a living at it. :) 11:15 sorry I have 1 file libc6 but not the other 11:15 dmmainou: actually it's in the linux-source directory you went for the first deb 11:15 syockit: also this is a friends laptop. when she uses it she will mostly be using it at coffee shops, so the wireless sniffer needs to be able to work. 11:16 Eutychus: hmm. You mean, the broadcast is received on other computers, but not on her Kubuntu? 11:16 yes. 11:16 syockit: yes. the laptop is dual boot with vista, and it works for vista 11:17 Ok I have them in the machine... can you pls help me with the grep 11:18 I suppose first I have to tar them... 11:19 dmmainou: what grep? 11:19 Eutychus: need specs on wifi type 11:20 Eutychus: I mean the wifi interface on the laptop 11:21 sorry figured it myself... 11:21 === ibrar is now known as ibrar_away * ibrar_away is away: Gone away for now 11:21 === carlos is now known as Guest88073 syockit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107697/ 11:22 Eutychus: if it's kubuntu 8.10, it might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218763 11:24 ok make scripts prepare worked 11:25 === Guest83626 is now known as anthony_ now the ptch command? 11:26 alright now edit drivers/net/r8169.c 11:26 hey i this problem Ubuntu 8.10 every now and again X crashes and all that shows in the log is this http://pastebin.ca/1314554 Does anyone know what might be wrong? 11:26 === anthony_ is now known as Shital === hannascott is now known as hannascott_NA with nano? 11:26 dmmainou: sudo kate drivers/net/r8169.c 11:26 dmmainou: nano also possible. you probably need sudo 11:27 dmmainou: If you know vim, it's better :) 11:27 dmmainou: but with kate, you can just ctrl-f it 11:27 vim is still a challenge... opened kate .... 11:28 what do I look for. 11:28 0x8168 11:28 found it 11:28 As you can see, the patch that is shown in that page says that a certain line has been removed, replaced with another line 11:28 In patch files, the minus (- on the beginning of the line) represents what is removed, while plus shows what is added 11:29 sorry I want to get this right... can you explain further 11:29 dmmainou: so comment out that line by inserting // on the beginning 11:29 now it should become //{ PCI_DEVICE(PCI_VENDOR_ID_REALTEK,0x8168) something something 11:30 ok 11:30 dmmainou: and continue from make M=pwd stuff 11:31 save after that? 11:31 dmmainou: I mean the step "Build network modules" 11:31 dmmainou: oh yes. sorry forgot that 11:32 dmmainou: save first, then follow instructions after the patch 11:32 dmmainou: all of them require sudo 11:32 syockit: i need to get ready for class. thank you for your help... you too juss1. i will try again tonight. thanx 11:33 dmmainou: after finishing modprobe, test the network. 11:33 dmmainou: wishing you luck! 11:34 tanks mate... already had a fight with the mrs about being on the pc again... but I wouldn't figured out myself. 11:34 dmmainou: if you need an easy CLI text editor, try nano ;) 11:35 faileas: I forgot nano has Where is 11:36 ;) 11:36 nano is awesome. second best cli text editor i've used 11:36 kate did it this time... 11:36 its compiling.... 11:36 nano can be a bit irritating due to its habit of word-wrapping when you don't want it to. 11:37 yup, but for such simple task, kate's loading time reduces productivity 11:37 SlimeyPete: how you'd get that to happen? 11:37 syockit: happens by default 11:38 if you open a file which includes a line which is wider than the terminal, and then you try to edit that line, nano "helpfully" wraps it 11:38 thus breaking shell-scripts 11:38 strange it doesn't happen here. Maybe it was a fixed bug 11:40 ah, i see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nano/+bug/39866 problem with root user 11:41 ok followed the recepie to the last step 11:41 how do i know if it worked? 11:42 dmmainou: You mean you finished modprobe? 11:43 dmmainou: then let's see.... 11:43 dmmainou: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart 11:43 plug in the network cable, see if it automatically detects 11:44 done 11:44 if it doesn't, may need to restart 11:44 restarting now 11:45 hi leute. wollte mal fragen ob es unter (k)ubuntu eine moeglichkeit automatisiert module die nicht gebraucht werden zu entfernen/entladen. nicht der geschw. wegen, sondern weil ich wenig ram habe. 11:45 blimers, I have the premonition that it won't work... but let's hope! 11:46 moeglichkeit gibt natuerlich 11:46 I only understood eine, means "one" right? 11:46 oh english, sry 11:46 syockit: right :) 11:46 and maybe "Das war ein Befehl!" 11:46 Noooooo! didn't work 11:48 well, is it possible to remove unneeded modules automatically. it would be nice because I only have less ram. 11:48 How do I change the treshhold for the "Monitor for silence" option in Konsole 2.1 (KDE 4.1.3)? The docs say "By default, after 10 seconds of inactivity, an info icon will appear on the session's tab." -- how do I increase this period? 11:49 sudo modprobe r8168 just gives the prompt is that correct... 11:49 the simplest way would be using xfce or another small desktop env. 11:49 dmmainou: yup 11:49 modinfo drivers/net/r8169.ko 11:50 sorry, mistake 11:50 ok what do I read from here. 11:51 dmmainou: can you do modinfo /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/drivers/net/r8169.k again? 11:51 yes didn't work just with k in the end but did with ko 11:52 I think there is an entry for 8169 that shouldn't be there.... 11:53 And it didn't have the pci:v000010ECd00008168sv alias? 11:53 no... 11:53 arr, I'm confused with that 8168/8169 fiasco 11:55 By the way, does that computer have a history of windows? 11:56 yo yo yo 11:57 yo yo ma 11:57 holla 11:58 no ... brand new box.... Asus P5n7A-vm 11:59 seems to work fine with 8.1 but linuxmce runs 7.1 11:59 !linuxmce 12:02 The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate 12:02 dmmainou: try lurking #linuxmce . In the meantime, we still can figure out what problems the network card have 12:03 dmmainou: I might even suggest upgrading the kernel too. 12:05 dmmainou: its not an official release so its not supported here 12:06 Or turn newer Kubuntu into an MCE 12:07 or just install medibuntu then install xbmc and you're golden 12:08 yeah ... may try something like that.... 12:09 !de 12:09 In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. 12:09 what about mythbuntu? 12:09 something supported you mean 12:09 !mythbuntu 12:09 Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information 12:09 looks like it 12:10 its weird but fluxbuntu isnt official 12:10 ok... I want to be able to record tv, store and see my movies AND have asterisk in the same box... thats it. 12:10 and its really annoying cos it rocks 12:10 dmmainou: you can store and share movies with any distro, use samba 12:10 !info asterisk 12:11 asterisk (source: asterisk): Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.21.2~dfsg-1ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 2397 kB, installed size 6512 kB 12:11 mmmm yes but I want something more idiot friendly.... I'd been using trixbox but it crashes once a week in my pIII therefore the upgrade... 12:12 dmmainou: go with 810 alpha then 12:12 http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_alpha1 12:13 Ok... I'm going on annual leave in a couple of weeks time. they may have a Beta version by then... 12:13 dmmainou: that why all my systems are linux based 12:13 including your toaster? 12:13 syockit: they did install snmp to a toaster once 12:14 with toasting stats 12:14 guys thank you very much .... I'm dissapointed about the effort but happy to have kind people willing to help. Iwill be up to scratch one day to help like that... 12:15 its called a community for a reason :) 12:16 oh I've been in some communities that are a bit more agressive. 12:17 when I was in windows, I had problem looking for a helpful community 12:17 Windows.... never again... at work cause they force me. 12:18 guys I'm going to bed now. 12:18 dmmainou: im the same, i left windows on my own systems a long time ago as the OS doesnt give me anything that linux cant 12:18 its a tool for the job to me 12:19 === Zorix_ is now known as Zorix jussi01 i reinstalled and rebooted and it worked. ... thanx 12:39 !openoffice 12:46 a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org 12:46 how can i import font times new roman? 12:48 import? 12:49 amerigo: times is a standard font 12:49 !font 12:49 Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer 12:49 * ibrar_away is away: Gone away for now 12:58 where do i tel kubuntu 8.10 to use software rendering instead of hardware ? 12:59 === ibrar_away is now known as ibrar * ibrar is back. 12:59 hi guys 12:59 how can i make and OS X application work on linux? 12:59 is there a way? 12:59 zer0o: there is a way but i don't know if i'm allowed to talk about it here. it involves running osx under vmware, and works mostly. sound missing and no acc video, but ok for the occasional app 13:01 zer0o: what does the app do, maybe there is a native equivelant 13:02 zer0o: search the insanelymac.com forum for more information 13:02 Action: I can't find in my open office 13:03 alright the thing is me and a friend of mine have to work on an event scheduler and it has to be the same but, he has a mac and i run linux 13:04 how do i solve that? 13:04 zer0o, use java :) is one way 13:04 Dr_willis: sorry? :D 13:04 python, perl, so on.. 13:05 dunno watcha talking about Dr 13:05 actually i recall there being somthignm to do with the windowmaker/gnustep and stuff working with Os-X some how.. or being sort of 'compatiable/portable' 13:05 still speaking arab to me :D i dont understand what ur sayin sorry :D 13:06 zer0o: he may have to use a different app, or you wil have to buy a mac 13:07 USE the java programing language 13:07 if you want to make a program that runs on both.. is one solution 13:07 there may exist mac application that supports the same formats... 13:07 === miranda is now known as Guest94191 Dr_willis: what im trying to tell is that ivegot no idea of how to do that 13:08 zer0o, youve really not told us much on what you are trying to do actually eitehr... 'work on and event scheduler' you mean write one? or what exactly? 13:09 if you want to share your schedules you can do that via google calendar ;) 13:10 Dr_willis: oh im sorry ur right, i meant i need to download a database just to keep some events organized 13:11 ivegotta do it with a friend of mine but he's got a mac and i run linux 13:11 got it now? 13:11 and which format do you use? 13:12 hardy 13:12 any1 using epson lx 800? 13:13 how to get the driver? 13:13 coky, check cups.org to see how well that printer is supported? 13:13 coky: http://forums.linux-foundation.org/read.php?26,1850 13:14 coky, for some printers there may be some cups support files witht eh drivers not installed by default.. I had a old printer that i had to rember t install the right packages for it. 13:14 coky: Use IBM ProPrinter II driver seems to be ok 13:15 ok im trying 13:15 === niklauz is now known as khaije1 coky: you could check the hcl for compatibility next time before you buy to save heartache 13:18 !hcl | coky 13:18 coky: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection 13:18 hi 13:28 i'm experiencing a problem with kopete on kde 4.2 rc 13:29 the windows live messenger protocol doesn't work 13:29 it gives me: cannot connect with the instant messanging server or peers 13:29 any hint? 13:30 alright can somebody suggest a good event organizer just for linux? 13:30 * Dr_willis isent even clear what an 'event' oorganizer is.. and how i differes from say a 'pim' type app. 13:31 whatz a pim type app ? 13:32 micettonero: try using http transport 13:33 !find pim 13:33 Found: libtunepimp-dev, libtunepimp5, libtunepimp5-dbg, bitpim, bitpim-lib (and 21 others) 13:33 personanal Information manager 13:33 micettonero: its the msn protocol, sometimes it needs it 13:33 'ie: a little calander. :) 13:33 doctor appoint on Monday... pick up laundry on thuisday 13:33 kdepim - Personal Information Management apps from the official KDE release 13:34 Dr_willis: not looking for that, im organizing events like concerts and i need an event-organizer an event-manager something i can put contacts dates numbers info... got it? 13:34 sounds liek a calander to me... 13:35 :) 13:36 Dr_willis: alright lets check this kdepim out, how do i get it? is not in my repos so i shall do something like "apt-get install" WHAT? 13:37 !info kdepim 13:38 kdepim (source: kdepim): Personal Information Management apps from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 (intrepid), package size 32 kB, installed size 84 kB 13:38 its in the MAIN repository.. so somthing is weid if its not in yours... 13:38 note the name was 'kdepim' install that 13:39 hi, i've got problem with upgrading nvidia drivers. when i upgraded nvidia-glx to 180.11 version using apt-get, i can't startx, due to problem: nvidia driver component has version 177.82, but nvidia kernel module has version 180.11. How can i figure it out? 13:39 i can't find any package responsile for that 13:40 when i rip DVDs using kpcopy it goes quickly then pauses at %95 completed for hours 13:44 has anyone else had this problem or know how to fix it? 13:44 cypr1nus: i'd uninstall all the nvidia drivers and fix the x server back to failsafe then reinstall the driver from scratch 13:44 khaije1, I tend to use handbrake 13:45 run the app from a terminal.. look for error messages khaije1 - for starters 13:45 khaije1, though you will need to enable a PPA repo for that (jdong's) 13:45 ActionParsnip how can i list all installed packages? 13:45 ya heheh thl excellent suggestions actually, thx i'll try each (probably in that order too :) ) 13:47 khaije1, you need a link for the handbrake ppa? 13:47 oh ty bazhang, yes pls! 13:48 ActionParsnip: sorry what is http transport? 13:49 https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive khaije1 only for hardy and intrepid though :) 13:49 khaije1, you need to add that to your sources.list then update and install handbrake 13:50 that works for me :D 13:50 how can i check the list of installed packages? 13:51 cypr1nus: dpkg -l | grep "^ii" 13:51 do these ppa's usually use repo keys? 13:51 Dr_willis: once installed it doesnt appear on the kmenu, how do i put it there? 13:51 good morning 13:51 bazhang: i've heard a lot of praise for handbrake 13:51 micettonero: its a way to get the messages transported, check in the account settings 13:52 Dr_willis: and it doesnt even run from a terminal with a "kdepim" command 13:52 khaije1, you will have some gnome stuff though (handbrake-gtk) 13:52 it would be nice if HandBrake worked on intrepid 13:52 BluesKaj, it does 13:52 #kubuntu-es 13:53 oh rly? heh well nothings perfect 13:53 bazhang , maybe it's kde4.2 beta that crashing it then 13:53 problem solved 13:53 BluesKaj, could be 13:53 hmm... on my debian/unstable server, zsh can complete database names when I do 'mysql ', but it doesn't seem to do that on my kubuntu laptop... does the kubuntu zsh package have fewer completions than the debian, or do I need to configure something? 13:54 bazhang ,HandBrake's icon launches , appears in the taskbar then disappears after 10secs or so. 13:55 It also will do directory/filename completion on remote hosts when I'm doing an scp, but not on my kubuntu laptop... is there a package I need to install to get more completions? 'apt-cache search zsh' didn't turn anything obvious up.... 13:59 I installed a whole new version of ffmpeg with unstripped libs dependencies , so maybe i won't need handbrake 14:01 Hmm... ok, all the completion files are there, actually.... 14:09 hello there! 14:11 anyone experienced crashes of kopete on opening the settings dialog? 14:11 ah 14:13 guedressel: not kopete, but do you have an ATI video card? 14:13 found a bug on launchpad: 284153 14:13 yp 14:14 yep 14:14 it's about my webcam 14:14 uvcvideo kernel module makes it crash 14:14 after unloading it works fine 14:14 need halp with kubuntu screensavers how come i cant find them in adept or synaptic 14:18 guedressel: I've found that something about the latest Catalyst drivers+Xorg7.4+KDE4.2+my HD3100 is very unstable... to the point I'm having to use a GNOME session. 14:20 hi! 14:22 anyone else having performance issues on kde4 with intel graphics? 14:22 dstar: my problem is the video module.. 14:22 ..since i'm not interested in the webcam i have no problem to deactivate it 14:22 can anyone help re kubuntu screensavers 14:22 guedressel: makes sense 14:22 khalidmian:is your package list up to date 14:24 then try installing kdeartworks 14:24 dstar: never the less - i'm looking forward to a big upgrade for many apps in KDE 4.2 14:24 khalidmian , look for Xscreensavers 14:24 then try installing anything related to kdeartworks package 14:25 can't keep my feets still 14:25 but don't want to test a not-release version of it 14:25 * guedressel is excited about KDE 4.2 14:25 BluesKaj: in add/remove or package manager 14:26 * faileas is running the beta/rc of that... its both shiny and more stable 14:27 khalidmian , look for xscreensaver in adept or synaptic or apt 14:28 khalidmian: apt-cache search screensaver 14:29 faileas: is there a service menu in the dolphin context menu for (un-)packing archives? 14:29 ActionParsnip ,xscreensaver in kde4 14:30 faileas: the beta/rc of kde4.2? It's not like the version of kde4.1 or whatever that Kubuntu uses by default is useable.... 14:31 i didd get screensavers via sudo apt get but not all 14:31 guedressel: there's an open with arc option 14:32 BluesKaj: it will find all packages about screensavers so it could be kde2 for all he cares ;) 14:32 dstar: thats what i found too. i'm using the 'official' experimental 4.2 repos mentioned on the channel topic, and i love it to bits 14:32 ActionParsnip , some have very limited options , xscreensaver has the most 14:33 faileas: i don't like that... 14:33 ...klick & go 14:33 BluesKaj: well the list will help to advise what package to install 14:33 but i will add it myself - if it's not there by default. 14:33 faileas: ditto. Except that plasma would crash as soon as I logged in. That didn't happen the last time I tried it, a couple of days ago, but my task bar panel vanished after a couple of minutes, and I couldn't get it back.... 14:34 dstar: on 4.1? 14:36 faileas: 4.2 14:36 guedressel: 14:36 well i normally use the cli for that 14:36 sure 14:36 dstar: wierd. on my laptop its awesomely stable 14:36 if i'm just in the cli i do it like this too 14:36 ssh 192.168.1.128 14:37 oops 14:37 but if i'm using my mouse klicking through my data it's just nice to not break that experience because of an archive file 14:37 faileas: I think it's the current Catalyst drivers, at a guess... it got worse when I upgraded to Catalyst 8.12 hoping that would help. I know the 9.1 beta drivers fix the compiz problem of flickering Xv video when using compositing, so maybe this is the same underlying problem and will be fixed.... 14:37 !worksforme | faileas 14:37 faileas: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ 14:37 AAAAAARG! 14:37 faileas: ;) 14:37 Something seems to be overwriting my resolv.conf file... and I can't figure out what, since I don't have any dhcp interfaces.... 14:38 dstar: thats an odd little thing. i'm running an x3100, which is not very good, and can't do compiz last time i tried ;) 14:38 ActionParsnip: maybe ;p 14:38 hmm 14:39 faileas: the one that's an rs780 chipset? 14:39 oh yeah, is there any way to change the inode size on a ext file system, or to set it during an install? 14:39 why isnt adept giving me options to install all screensavers 14:39 dstar: intel integrated graphics ;p 14:39 faileas: ahhhh 14:39 faileas: I've got a Radeon HD3100 14:40 Its barely competant- some stuff won't work on it, some will, compiz had huge problems when i tried it last year ;p 14:40 heh 14:40 ugh i give up 14:40 on the other hand, i think it can handle aero, but i wouldn't let vista pollute my hard drive ;p 14:41 faileas: do you have the latest driver for it? ISTR seeing somethig about improvements to the intel driver recently when it comes to compositing 14:41 === navid_ is now known as nahy hey! 14:42 dstar: i have the stock driver, well i do have the proposed repo activated 14:42 faileas: hmm... that should do it 14:42 faileas: when was the last time you tried compiz? 14:43 i tried to install gnome on my kubuntu but it couldn't download some packages 14:43 dstar: last year, before october 14:43 i couldn't run gnome session 14:44 can anyone help me with kubuntu screensavers 14:44 faileas: I think the changes were in the last couple of months, but I don't really recall -- I just saw it in passing. 14:44 khalidmian: what do you need? 14:44 dstar: it was supposed to have been fixed in october 14:45 dstar: i fail to understand why adept isnt showing screensaver installtion option ive installed k and xscreensavers via sudo but most are missing 14:46 i tried to remove gnome by sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop but it said package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened 14:46 !purekde 14:46 If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » 14:46 hello 14:47 === jamie is now known as Guest99077 sup guise 14:47 khalidmian: what's one of the screensavers that's missing in specific (so I know what to look for)? 14:48 nahy: the gnome-desktop is a hollow metapackage so wont uninstall the packages its made of 14:48 gl series i think in k and x 14:48 === rraphink is now known as raphink but the instructions in help.ubuntu said that this "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop" will work 14:50 how old are those instructions? 14:50 the *-desktop packages have been through several different revisions 14:51 khalidmian: are xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra, and kscreensaver-xsavers installed? 14:52 is there any way to repair the packages? 14:52 dstar: thats what im trying to install 14:52 khalidmian: do 'apt-cache search screensaver' from the command line, and see if they show up there 14:53 they did 14:53 is there any way to repair the packages? 14:54 they haven't downloaded completely 14:54 when i wanted to install gnome 14:55 khalidmian: hmm.... but they don't show up in adept? 14:55 nahy: sudo apt-get -f install 14:55 no 14:55 ok 14:55 ill have to reinstall kubuntu 14:56 === ame is now known as Guest30649 it says you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' 14:57 khalidmian: if I fire up adept and put 'xscreensaver' in the search box, it shows up... how many packages do you see if you do that? 14:57 #kubuntu-devel 14:57 how to make totemsupport ssa subtitle? 14:58 it says there is no space 14:58 nahy: what's the exact error message? 14:59 i tried df -h and it shows my / is full 14:59 no space left on device 15:00 in some other extent like this i erased my log and archive 15:01 is that ok? 15:01 nahy: Logs are fine, they just get re-created 15:02 ok but please show me where are they i can't remember 15:03 nahy: Usually in /var/log and the subdirs in there specific to whichever apps as well. Don't delete the subdirs however 15:04 ok thank you 15:04 nahy: You may also want to use apt-get clean which will clean out the downloaded install packages 15:05 nahy: instead of erasing the logs, you could compress them by running logrotate 15:05 then can i run this command to get rid of gnome? "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"? 15:06 nahy: logrotate is responsible for regularly compressing the current logs and deleting old ones, so forcing it usually saves space 15:06 wow I am running kubuntu from the live cd--! awesome! :) 15:06 what is the exact command? 15:06 nahy: I doubt it will remove gnome, maybe "sudo aptitude autoremove" afterwards will (not sure though) 15:06 ok buddy 15:06 ubuntu: welcome to the kubuntu world then ;) 15:07 it's working "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop" 15:08 ok 15:09 but in the middle it said: run 'dpkg --configure -a' 15:10 are they different? 15:10 then run it :) 15:10 hey all I am brand new to this, and wondering if kubuntu will run on an atom proc? 15:10 i mean is it going to uninstall gnome? 15:10 dpkg is what manages the packages individually, apt-get and aptitude allow to download packages from distant repositories and manage dependencies between them 15:11 дб 15:11 ubuntu: yes it will 15:11 ubuntu: atom is intel compatible (i386 compatible) 15:11 nahy: if it tells you to run "dpkg --configure -a", it's because the installation/removal didn't work fine, so it needs to be tried again 15:12 nahy: so you should do it if it tells you 15:12 ok ok i did it 15:12 nahy: you could retry your aptitude command to make sure it was completed 15:12 aha 15:13 ubuntu: I personnaly run kubuntu on an aspire one, which uses an atom proc 15:13 that is awesome--- this is a slick little os 15:14 i still see that my root is 100% used what should i do? 15:16 nahy: genii proposed you to clean your aptitude cache 15:17 run "sudo apt-get clean" 15:17 this will remove the packages that were downloaded by apt-get/aptitude and are not useful anymore 15:17 (located in /var/cache/apt/archives) 15:17 what you can do next is check where the space is used 15:18 in order to do that, you can do 15:18 sudo du -sh /* 15:18 this will show you the space used by each directory on the computer 15:18 once you locate a directory that uses a lot of space, you run "sudo du -sh" on this directory 15:18 until you find where you can remove space 15:18 my first time 15:18 konqueror also has a very nice plugin for that 15:19 hopefully still working in KDE4... let me check 15:19 hi saiy 15:19 hi raphink 15:19 === henk_ is now known as SparX my first to use kubuntu ,my first time to come here. 15:20 nahy: you can fire up konqueror, and while you view a folder, go to the view mode and switch to the file size view 15:20 this is very useful 15:20 welcome then saiy 15:20 saiy: first time using a linux OS ? 15:20 thank you , 15:20 yes , 15:20 congrats then :) 15:20 thank you 15:21 I like kubuntu very much,it is very beautiful 15:21 hi, how can i change login password 15:22 ahmos: either in systemsettings (see the preferences in the K menu) 15:23 I had a 'held back' amarok for a while on Hardy, then finally uninstalled it. Now I cant get it to install without reference to libmp4v2. i installed libmp4 from source and still no go. any suggestions from this error? ---> The following packages have unmet dependencies: 15:23 ah, too late ;) 15:23 amarok: Depends: libmp4v2-0 (>= 1:1.6dfsg) but it is not installable 15:23 E: Broken packages 15:23 hmm... anyone know of a replacement for sort that understands size postfixes (k,m,g, etc)? 15:23 wow so if this install goes ok I will have kubuntu on my new 8gb usb stick and be able to boot from it! what are the chances of that working!? lol 15:24 hi,raphink,where are you from? 15:24 saiy: france 15:24 oh,great country 15:24 I am from China,nice to talk with you. 15:25 daDudeMan: what happens if you do 'sudo apt-get install libmp2v2-0'? 15:25 dstar: you could preprocess it by replacing k with 1000, m with 1000000 and g with 1000000000... 15:25 dstar: using awk for example... but it's a bit ugly 15:25 er, 'sudo apt-get install libmp4v2-0' 15:25 raphink: yeah 15:26 ubuntu: it should work if you follow the howto on bootable USB keys 15:26 dstar: I get " E: Couldn't find package libmp2v2-0 " 15:27 dstar: is it to use with ls ? 15:28 raphink: response to du -sh for root returned no access to /proc and ......... 15:28 daDudeMan: typo on my part... should have been libmp4v2-0 15:28 dstar: Does it matter I have the medibuntu repo in list to search? 15:28 raphink: du -sH 15:28 dstar: let me see 15:28 daDudeMan: shouldn't, try it again with mp4 instead of mp2 15:28 dstar: E: Package libmp4v2-0 has no installation candidate 15:29 === marius is now known as Guest47299 dstar: you use use "du -s" without the h 15:29 dstar: this way you won't have k, m, g 15:29 raphink: yeah, that works... I'm looking for a way to have my cake and eat it, too. 15:29 haha 15:30 ok guys i'm so sorry but i got to go. i'll give it a try tomorrow 15:31 buy 15:31 thank you again 15:31 bye bye 15:31 daDudeMan: what architecture are you on? 15:32 how can i setup plugins ,when I use konqueror? 15:32 where do I get kernel 2.6.24-7 downgrade? 15:33 which down tools is better to use in kubuntu? 15:35 down tools saiy? 15:35 yes 15:36 what do you mean? 15:36 it is used to download something from net 15:36 any good tool? 15:36 dstar: 64bit 15:36 ah, download 15:36 saiy: graphical? 15:36 yes 15:36 saiy: there's Kget in KDE 15:37 which works directly with konqueror 15:37 daDudeMan: what does uname -m say? 15:37 ok, i will try it now 15:37 thank you 15:37 you're welcome 15:37 raphink 15:37 dstar x86_64 15:37 hi im back with a fresh install of kubuntu running updates as we speak and would like to know how to add screensavers via adept not via sudo 15:40 daDudeMan: try downloading http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17200239/libmp4v2-0_1.6dfsg-0.2ubuntu3_amd64.deb and installing it with 'dpkg -i ' 15:40 Hi guys.. I'm using qemu.. and my virtual OS is freebsd.. but I dont know why I cannot ping between my hosts. 15:40 dstar: thanks will try 15:40 any idea? 15:40 daDudeMan: I'm assuming that x86_64 is the same thing as what debian calls amd64 15:41 dstar: i think its a reasonable assumption 15:41 nethans_: is your host os kubuntu? 15:41 ubuntu 15:41 daDudeMan: How well does 64-bit linux work out for you? 15:42 nethans_: are you hosts on the same network? 15:42 yep 15:42 what the IPs/masks nethans_? 15:42 my host.. and the vritual OS are inthe same network. 15:42 dstar: it screams 15:42 nethans_: well, this channel is for kubuntu, but I'll see if I can help... are you trying to ping between host os and guest, or guest os and another guest os? 15:42 192.168.1.0 /24 15:42 daDudeMan: no incompatibility problems? 15:42 nethans_: they're all in this network? 15:43 yes 15:43 dstar: i think i found WINE is only 32 bit but that was it for "problems" 15:43 daDudeMan: cool. 15:43 nethans_: can you ping other IPs from the virtual machines? 15:43 hi im looking for assistance on how to get kubuntu screensavers via adept rather than via sudo command 15:43 I cannot ping the VM.. 15:44 daDudeMan: I'm seriously considering moving to 64-bit if I ever (god forbid *shudder*) have to rebuild my server. 15:44 khalidmian: if someone told you to type "sudo apt-get install ", seach for this in adept 15:44 I have virtual box.. and I can.. 15:44 nethans_: can the VM ping the host? 15:44 but with qemu I cannot 15:44 khalidmian: did you see the question I asked just before I lost my connection earlier? 15:44 how can I kill a blocked app? 15:44 I have 2 vitual tool. qemu and virtual box.. 15:44 Guest47299: use the kill command, or use Ctrl+Esc and click on the window 15:44 nethans_: not the same guest os image in both cases though, right? 15:44 no.. 15:45 dstar: hey star no i didnt i just reinstalled kubuntu and am running upadtes at the moment so i guess you can say my kubuntu is a virgin 15:45 I tried to put a static route.. but didnt worked 15:45 kget is undoubted a good tool. thank you again,raphink 15:45 thanks a lot, that actually worked hahah 15:45 nethans_: what's ifconfig -a and netstat -r output for both host and guest on the working and non-working cases (you'll want to use a pastebox of course) 15:46 I used tcpdump to check if actually the pings are trying to go out of the box.. but they dont 15:46 Guest47299: it was more fun when the cursor became a skull though ;) 15:46 dstar: I do environmental modeling with GIS on the linux 64 bit system, and it just rips the data up. big files in GB order too. just grinds away....faaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssst too 15:46 khalidmian: once it's done with updates, fire up adept, go to search, and put in xscreensaver and see what you get in the results 15:46 saiy: yes it's nice :) 15:46 saiy: in the console, there's wget if you ever want to check it, it's very powerful, too 15:47 dstar: shall do and will msg you for assistance if it doesnt work 15:47 so how long is the kubuntu install to a usb stick supposed to take? it seems to be taking a long time 15:47 I don't like to do something in console ,haha 15:48 === hannascott_NA is now known as hannascott saiy: you're not used to it yet ;) 15:48 daDudeMan: hmm... maybe I should have gone with 64-bit on my laptop. On the gripping hand, at the time I was on a cell-phone internet connection, and just downloading _one_ iso took hours... worse, I had to do it twice because it died at 90% the first time. So I didn't want to risk a failure.... 15:48 saiy: I didn't like to use the console when I began to use linux. Now I use it more than the graphical tools. It saves me tons of time :) 15:48 ha,really! 15:49 saiy: yes, really :) 15:49 ubuntu: You can install kubuntu to a usb stick? 15:49 dstar i tried the beta version of Windows 7 all i can say is that it sucks 15:49 saiy: really, and there are things you can do with the command line that just aren't possible with a gui.... 15:49 khalidmian: My understanding is it's just like Vista and Server 2008. Of course it sucks.... 15:50 === vmt1 is now known as vmt ok,from now on,i will use it a little everyday ,ha 15:50 === manuel__ is now known as fliegenderfrosch There is _one_ thing I liked about vista, and that was that it was possible in explorer to (for example) only show files with names that starte with 'a-f', etc... is that doable with any of the various Kubuntu/Ubuntu file managers? 15:51 saiy: that's the best way to do it -- don't try to force yourself into only using it, just make sure you do so that you get more comfortable with it, and you'll find yourself doing more and more with it. 15:52 dstar: why have windows when you have an open door invitaion to linux 15:52 thank you,but i am newer , it is difficult to me probably 15:52 khalidmian: Well, my laptop doesn't run Vista anymore... :) I gave Vista a fair try. And even at the end of a cell-phone internet connection, it took me less time to download and install ubuntu than I'd already spent trying to get Vista working. 15:53 dstar: all upgardes are complete should i reboot or stay online 15:53 khalidmian: Up to you -- did it say you needed to reboot? 15:53 saiy: as a matter of fact, you can do without the command line 15:54 === _roconnor is now known as roconnor saiy: my wife has been using linux for 3 years and doesn't use the command line at all 15:54 ha ,great 15:54 saiy: but if you're interested in controlling your computer and gaining time (especially in batch processing), then it's really worth it to learn 15:55 saiy: the GUIs can only do what they were planned to. There can't be buttons and boxes for everything you might want to do with a computer 15:55 yes , you are right . i have ever seen my friend using the console.that is difficult 15:56 saiy: it is not difficult, it's just another way of interacting with the computer 15:58 with words instead of graphics 15:58 oh,i have to remember a lot of command,i hate to remember something mechanically. 15:58 hehe ;) 15:58 d-tech: back after required reboot now what 15:59 Right. Anyone remember that x-terminal error I had? 16:00 raphink,when did you learn ubuntu ? 16:00 how can i see how many files and application has opened ? 16:00 ok something is really wrong with my adept manager 16:00 saiy: about 3 years ago 16:00 JackWinter: you can use lsof for that 16:00 Well, i fixed that by installing xterm, except, i can only run KDE via: 'KDESTART' 16:00 And it logs me in as root. 16:00 >_> 16:00 Fixable@? 16:01 you must master it 16:01 JackWinter: for example, to check files opened by kmail, you can do 'lsof | grep "^kmail"' 16:01 i mean you probably master it 16:01 why doesnt the electric shepp screensaver work in kubuntu 16:02 raphink: and if i only want to know how many a specific app has opened ? 16:03 you want to know how many files a program has opened? 16:03 then you can pipe the lsof command into wc 16:03 like 16:03 lsof | grep "^kmail" | wc -l 16:03 will give you the number of lines returned 16:04 dstar: finally the screensavers show up in adept 16:04 khalidmian: cool 16:04 dstar: why doesnt electric sheep work under kubuntu 16:04 dstar: that seemed to work, its installing amarok now. thanks! =D 16:05 khalidmian: what happens when you try? 16:05 daDudeMan: no problem 16:05 ola 16:05 raphink: many thanks 16:06 JackWinter: does that answer your question? 16:06 I have a patch for kernel 2.6.24-7 what i the easiest way to mod it to patch for the latest and greatest kernel? 16:06 !br | ferlete 16:07 ferlete: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado. 16:07 Hooray, another bug caused crash. 16:07 JackWinter: lsof might include pipes opened by the program aswell though, so if you want only real files, you might want to check "man lsof" 16:07 I seriously hope KDE 4.2 is better than this. 16:07 >_x;;; 16:07 LazersK: oh god yes 16:07 LazersK: Does KDM not work for you? 16:07 Kdebluetooth doesn't work. 16:07 Anybody else having performance issues with Scribus on 8.10? 16:07 I have to start KDE by manually typing 'KDESTART' 16:07 It often crashes. 16:07 kde4.2 is awesome. 16:08 infinite times better than 4.1 16:08 I got the RC. 16:08 yay bluetooth... saw the bug updates about the kdebluetooth being fixed and will be backported to kde4.1 too, thanks for the hard work! 16:08 raphink: no this is cool, i just need to know approximately. i had a sampler that ran out of filehandles with the default 1024 :) 16:09 LazersK: Why do you have to start kde with kdestart? Can you not choose a kde session at the login screen? 16:09 KDEbluetooth doesn't work on mine 16:09 doesn't even start 16:09 JackWinter: ok :) 16:09 has tried the Scribus team repositories, tried the svn release, built the whole thing from scratch out of the SVN repository, has rebuilt cairo with hardware acceleration enabled and it still runs like a 2 legged dog 16:10 helo ppl 16:10 help me out 16:10 hi, raphink,thank you very much.I do not want to leave but i have to go to sleep ,it is 00:10 now. 16:10 my kubuntu doesn't start 16:10 after loading at startup 16:10 the system blocks 16:10 all the apps block and the mouse too 16:11 what's wrong with my system? 16:11 ... 16:13 help pls 16:13 all the system seems to block, nothing works, not even ctrl+alt+backspace 16:14 what's wrong??? 16:14 what the hell does blocks mean 16:14 :( 16:14 to me it means prevents 16:14 porta_ss: By "block" you mean the graphics are square and chunky, or that the applications are prevented from running? 16:15 I mean that everything suddenly stops from workin' 16:15 mouse, apps, everything 16:15 5 seconds after login 16:15 no key responds, no mouse movement, nothing 16:16 porta_ss: Does it take you back to login screen after a while? 16:18 no 16:18 it just... 16:18 Hi how do I access Nvidia Controls in Kubuntu 8.10 16:18 proprietry driver? 16:19 dies, I could watch the desktop for all day, but I can't move the mouse nor do anything else 16:19 KMenu - Settings - NVidia X Server Settings (if you are using the proprietary driver) 16:19 sorry found it and yes 16:19 so...all services stop and all I can do is press "Shut down" to tr again 16:20 try* 16:20 porta_ss: When this happens, do the 3 lights on the keyboard keep all blinking on and off together? 16:20 nope, nothing 16:20 please, how can i get new 64bit flash into opera? 16:21 (i have core2duo processor) 16:22 the fact is that I can't eve try to solve the problem, the system just won't work 16:22 I login and that's it 16:22 can't even open konsole 16:22 what s xinerama again? I would like to use independent x screens and have edited xorg lots but cannot remember what xinerama is 16:22 this is the second time I install kubuntu 16:22 porta_ss: When this happens can you use ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a text login? 16:22 !xinerama 16:22 xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead 16:22 i have just removed the older version of flashplugin-nonfree and its dependancies because it didnt work. how shall i get the new package? 16:23 ciauz 16:23 I didn't try. but if I can, what should I type there? 16:23 porta_ss: does CTRL+ALT+F2 take you to a command line prompt? 16:23 ah nm, someone already mentioned it 16:23 I didn't try. but if I can, what should I type there? 16:24 ok what is panning is that were you make the screen bigger than your normal resolution and access it by moving mouse to the corners 16:24 sides 16:24 Hi all - I am wondering if there's a "welcome wizard" in Kubuntu, something that pops up when a newly-installed kubuntu is logged into. What would that package name be ? 16:25 MagicFab: and why would you need that? 16:25 I don't know if ctrl+alt+f2 works but I can tell you that ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work 16:25 MagicFab: theres nothing to set up 16:25 porta_ss: start by doing ctrl-alt-f1. If it takes you to a text screen with a login prompt, try to log in and see if it works. 16:26 coreymon77, some first-time users may see its use. I am just curious and wanted to see what it did. I believe I remember seing that while browsing for other packages but can't remember. 16:26 MagicFab: i dont know, but once again, I cant see any sort of use for it, everything that needs setting up is done on install 16:27 please, could sb tell me how should i install flash into intrepid, espetially so that it works with opera? 16:27 !flash | StR|Sangreal 16:27 StR|Sangreal: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash 16:27 coreymon77, regardless if you think it's useless, that's not what I am asking - no need to debate that. 16:28 dstar: need assistance buddy 16:28 khalidmian: shoot 16:28 MagicFab: i already said that, im not sure what it would be called, apt-cache search should be your friend for that though 16:29 dstar: screensaver prefrences in advanced are 16:29 dstar: says usr/share/backgrounds dir doesnt exist 16:30 khalidmian: hmmm... does it? 16:30 well then it doesnt exist 16:30 i dont know i thought its a default dir 16:30 coreymon77, I've searched, but as expected no obvious keywords match that. For KDE 4 a welcome plasmoid is coming up: 16:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMefOpN5izs 16:30 So apparently it's not as useless as one would think :) 16:31 MagicFab, do you mean browse available pkges that aren't installed? If so, there are thousands and if you have something in mind then surf the pkg managers like adept for apps you might like. 16:31 dstar: isnt that the dir for wallpapers by default? 16:31 MagicFab: "welcome" as a keyword doesnt give you anything 16:31 please, the manual for me is too complicated i have centrino2 architecture and use intrepid kubuntu 16:32 BluesKaj: no, he means a welcome wizzard when you log in to a newly installed kubuntu 16:32 khalidmian: I don't know, actually... I don't do much with walpapers 16:32 === manuel__ is now known as fliegenderfro StR|Sangreal: its called apt, or adept, use it 16:32 === stigi is now known as Sprut1 coreymon77 , Ikinow what he means , it's a matter of interpretation 16:32 hello again 16:32 whence i should get sth compatible with amd64 16:32 ctrl+alt+f1 won't work,ctrl+alt+f1 neither 16:33 ctrl+alt+f2 neither 16:33 the official flash plugin x86_64 does not work, neither flashplugin-nonfree with nspluginwrapper 16:33 coreymon77, at the risk of repeating myself, no. 16:33 khalidmian: is screensaver-default-images installed? 16:33 khalidmian: brb 16:33 nothing works 16:34 which package should i get then? 16:34 no keys no mouse, nothing 16:34 and from which repository? 16:34 please 16:34 any idea please? 16:35 StR|Sangreal: if nobody is answering, theres a good chance that either nobody who is here and active at the moment knows, or is busy with something else at the moment 16:35 porta_ss: If you choose Console login from the login screen, does it take you to a text login? 16:35 well, I don't have ckonsole option in the login menu, in 8.04 there was 16:36 indeed 16:36 or is it? 16:36 uhmmm, not quite sure 16:36 but if there is, what should I type in that konsole 16:37 ??? 16:37 oh, u're right there is konsole 16:37 so, what should I do with it? 16:37 reinstalling kubuntu doesn't solve the problem, 16:38 porta_ss: The idea is that if you can at least get to a usable console login, then some forensics can be done to see whats happening 16:38 ok, but I'm dual booting 16:38 sorry for xpost but #ubuntu is pretty darn busy - anyone now of a Kubuntu app that supports reading dmg (autocad) files? 16:38 so could you tell me what should I do in the console? 16:39 dstar: in software sources i try to add cdrom but it doesnt mount it 16:39 cause I'm dual booting, so I must restart in order to open the konsole 16:39 porta_ss: The first useful thing would be to install the package pastebinit. eg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit 16:40 ok, after that? 16:40 porta_ss: In this case, why not instead boot to livecd and come here again from on that. 16:40 uhmmm, ok 16:40 khalidmian: hmm... not sure on that. on my system, dpkg says /usr/share/backgrounds is owned by screensaver-default-images, ubuntu-wallpapers, and ubuntustudio-wallpapers 16:40 dstar: in software sources i try to add cdrom but it doesnt mount it any clue? 16:41 khalidmian: Can you mount the cd manually? 16:41 dstar: how? 16:42 khalidmian: grep cdrom /etc/fstab, then do sudo mount 16:43 khalidmian: so if yours is like mine, sudo mount /media/cdrom0 16:44 === ubuntu is now known as setuid_w00t I am in the process of moving my kubuntu install to a larger hard drive. I have created the new partitions and filesystems and used rsync to copy all the files. Now my problem is that I need to install grub on the new drive. Can anyone tell me what I need to do? I am currently using the LiveCD functionality of the kubuntu installer and have my new drive mounted. under ~/new_linux 16:49 grub-install 16:50 EagleScreen: which directory do I execute that from? 16:50 ok, I got into konsole, 16:51 to install grub you need two things to specify: root folder for grub installation, and disk in whose MBR grub will be installed 16:51 ok, I got into konsole, 16:51 I got updates and installed pstebinit 16:52 but still won;t work 16:52 for instance: grub-install --root-directory=~/new_linux '(hd1)' 16:53 EagleScreen: ahhh. I was trying to specify the last paramater as /dev/sdb 16:53 you only have to set --root-directory and HD correctly 16:54 sdb must be hd1 16:54 sda hd0 16:54 well it didn't work when I did /dev/sdb 16:55 Hi. I am having "kernel-panic" instances on my hardy installation since last week. Is there something that I can check? 16:55 === darthvader_ is now known as S === S is now known as STD hi 16:57 setuid_w00t you may need to edit (or create) manually the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in your new disk 16:57 EagleScreen: I have edited it to modify the disk UUIDs 16:57 somebody now about bluetooh in kubuntu 8.10? 16:58 EagleScreen: and the (hd#,#) entries 16:58 well done 16:58 (hd1,0) == /dev/sdb1 right? 16:58 Hi. I am having "kernel-panic" instances on my hardy installation since last week. Is there something that I can check? 16:58 STD bluetooh in kubuntu 8.10 is broken 16:58 really? 16:58 why? 16:59 yes setuid_w00t you are roght 16:59 ok. Rebooting. Thanks 16:59 Just after few minutes of login, the caps lock led starts flashing and the screen just freezes... 16:59 === lacopt is now known as lacopt_ausente I have a hard-drive named New 17:00 New Volume - sorry, and I would like to change the name on it 17:00 STD seems to be a kbluetooth issue 17:00 as well I would like to automount it without the password? 17:01 tyler_d2 change label? 17:01 ciao 17:01 EagleScreen: yes 17:01 !fstab 17:01 The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions 17:01 !list* 17:01 Sorry, I don't know anything about list* 17:01 !it | giovanni 17:02 giovanni: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) 17:02 !fstab | tyler_d2 17:02 tyler_d2: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions 17:02 porta 17:02 Beh 17:02 tyler_d2 there is a python script to change disk labels, i can pass it on to you 17:03 17:03 and do not know how to fix it 17:03 i dont know 17:03 no way?ç 17:04 STD let me see.. 17:04 ok! 17:04 this is 17:05 17:05 It is therefore very important 17:05 === KennethP_ is now known as KennethP STD Bluetooh is broken, it is written in 8.10 release notes, you should read it before upgrade to 8.10 17:08 yeah i read it 17:08 17:09 but I thought it had fixed 17:09 you did it wrongly 17:09 you must use 8.04 to use bluetooh 17:10 hmm yeap 17:10 really? 17:10 by the moment, yes 17:10 and i have no hope to this is going to be fixed soon in 8.10 17:10 how i can help? 17:11 STD opena terminal and run command kbluetooth4, after, paste the putput into pastebin and share it 17:12 * cuznt puts on protective wear. no STD's for me! 17:13 17:14 know of any tutorial? 17:14 negative 17:14 do you now about venenux? 17:14 hey man, do you now about venenux? 17:16 w 17:17 well see you! 17:17 thanks" 17:17 www.venenux.org 17:18 hi i have a problem when i type "xrandr --size 640x480" : my desktop does not scale 17:25 === KennethP_ is now known as KennethP hello 17:37 please i have two issues 17:37 1. i need a thirdparty driver for my ATI, probably a reason for why my desktop manager sometimes displays black and white stripes or other disturbed graphics 17:38 2. please could sb tell me how to install flash onto AMD64 kubuntu intrepid? which one, from where and how should i integrate it into opera wb? 17:39 Hi somebody know how to install mozilla firefox in kubuntu ??? 17:40 huhu 17:41 ??? 17:42 alan_: menu -> application -> system -> pacakage manager. 17:42 alan_: sudo apt-get install firefox 17:43 @ StR|Sangreal http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356649 17:43 E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another pr ess using it? 17:44 @ StR|Sangreal http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-969043.html 17:44 alan_ did you use sudo? 17:44 : Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporaril unavailable) 17:44 Because he did what I said. 17:44 Close package manager. 17:44 StR|Sangreal those two should answer both questions you had 17:45 Thanks you =) 17:45 StR|Sangreal: Grab the 64 bit Flash from: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz then extract the file to /usr/lib/opera/plugins/ 17:45 should i do that for firefox and for opera separately? 17:46 StR|Sangreal: You could also just put the .so file someplace common amd symlink from the plugin dirs of opera and firefox 17:47 Thanks a lot =) 17:48 === sven_ is now known as Lokiase * alan_ is away: Gone away for now. 17:50 * alan_ is away: Gone away for now. 17:50 hmm... what can cause a drmGetMagic error for aiglx? 17:52 === roozbehonline is now known as RoozbehOffline Probably hdcp related 17:55 genii: hdcp? 17:57 ds187: High Definition Copy Protection ... if you want to play a bluray for instance through the computer, the video card has to be HDCP compliant 17:58 My printer often prints an extra blank page. :/ 17:58 genii: why would that affect OpenGL acceleration? 18:00 === eric is now known as Guest12221 Sorry again I'm french and i want to know what does a "GPL game" mean 18:03 ?? 18:03 alan_: GPL game ?? 18:04 GNU Public Lisenced game. 18:04 alan_: la GPL est une licence d'utilisation libre 18:04 A opensource game. 18:04 I want to have some game on my computer 18:05 la GNU Public Lisence comme Wulong l'a dit 18:05 alan_: il y a beaucoup de jeux pour linux 18:05 a bon ? 18:05 alan_: http://www.happypenguin.org/ http://www.linuxgames.com/ 18:05 alan_: PM 18:06 alan_: tu as vu mon PM? 18:07 Merci !!!! 18:08 === French76 is now known as alan__ merci ^ 18:08 alan__: de rien, tu as vu mon PM? 18:10 non j'ai eu un pb de connection 18:15 !fr | alan__ 18:17 alan__: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr 18:18 thx 18:18 hola 18:21 necesito que alguien me ayude con el adept de kubuntu 18:21 === JackWinter_ is now known as JackWinter !es 18:22 En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. 18:22 !es | ealonso 18:22 ealonso: please see above 18:22 gracias :) 18:22 de nada 18:22 please i need advice 18:23 where shall i copy the proprietary x86 flashplugin... .so so that it works with firefox? 18:23 StR|Sangreal, you don't want my advices, I'm new on Kubuntu 18:24 sorry 18:24 in spanish please 18:24 ealonso, for spanish join #kubuntu-es 18:25 ok tanck you 18:25 === anthony is now known as Guest54340 hi, i can't have the resolution 640x480 ; the desktop does not scale 18:29 === CarolinaSwamp is now known as CarolinaSwamp_ === French76 is now known as Dralenia === CarolinaSwamp_ is now known as CarolinaSwamp StR|Sangreal: Apologies on lag, work required me. For firefox, the plugin dir is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins . But you need the 64 bit version of firefox for that, the 64 bit plugin won't work on 32 bit firefox. 18:32 and how should i get 64bit firefox 18:33 (the opera works fine btw :)) 18:33 === Dralenia is now known as Alan StR|Sangreal: I cannot recall offhand if the default is 64bit if you are running amd64 kubuntu. Perhaps so. You could try 18:35 how do I change the volume label on a hard drive 18:37 tyler_d2: It depends on the filesystem of said partition. 18:37 ntfs 18:37 mlabel syntax is not working out for me 18:38 tyler_d2: You want ntfsprogs. At any rate, there is good doc here on the entire subject https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive Keep in mind volume names do not seem to change until after next boot. 18:40 !lvm 18:40 Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO 18:40 my shift lock does not work for the numbered lines above the normal keys on the keyboard, any hints ? 18:42 where can i find the firefox bookmark file? 18:42 !de 18:43 In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. 18:43 Malic: In /.mozilla/firefox/*.default/ 18:43 genii: thx!! 18:44 Malic: You're welcome 18:44 i really tried and looked, but i can't find this... i run "aptitude update", i get this error: 18:44 : GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verifiedbecause the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4874D3686E80C6B7 18:44 neothecat: Thats normal. 18:44 neothecat: That's not crucial 18:45 Pici: ok, then i won't worry :) 18:45 thanks 18:45 * genii hands Pici a coffee 18:45 is there a way to show my system information with konversation? 18:45 under windows i have mirc so i run a script. 18:45 Sysinfo for 'hplaptop': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2050@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3192 bogomips), , RAM: 968/1001MB, 114 proc's, 22.13min up 18:46 fsamson /sysinfo 18:47 is there a way to do multip folder instead of right clikin on the mouse to creat a folder all the time? 18:47 another question... i am using KDE 4.2 RC 2. kmail keeps on seg faulting when i go into my inbox. has anybody else seen this, and i just need to wait for 4.2 to go gold? 18:47 Sysinfo for 'fsamson-desktop': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.4 (KDE 4.1.4), CPU: AMDAthlon644000+ at 2410 MHz (4821 bogomips), HD: 252/986GB, RAM: 1955/2024MB, 145 proc's, 20.34h up 18:47 nice 18:47 RAM: 1955/2024MB, 145 proc's, 20.34h up 18:47 1955 used? 18:47 no way.. 18:47 is there a way to do multip folder instead of right clikin on the mouse to creat a folder all the time? 18:47 good question 18:48 mkdir folder1 folder2 18:48 or mkdir -p folder1/subfolder1 18:49 hubert knowns all 18:49 hubert_: i have to open a terminal on the window where i want the folders? 18:50 yes xp-killer 18:52 hubert_: cool it work tanks 18:53 how can i uninstall these drivers ? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22.html 18:53 Koordin: i had a proplem with those as well, removing the prepacked ubuntu version made the nvidia from site work 18:55 hubert_: but i want to uninstall these (cause i have a display problem 18:56 hi how do i get rid of Korganizer? even if i uncheck the "start at boo" option it starts automaticly at each boot, then i unistalled it from the repos, reboot, still there!!!! how do i get rid of it? help :D 18:56 hi, I have a wlan button on my notebook. if I forget to activate it before linux is up I can't enable wlan anymore. tried loading some modules but does only work when on at reboot. what can I do to find out how to activate it manually even if not on at boot? 18:57 ciao 18:58 raga 18:58 === shadeslayer1 is now known as shadeslayer === sven_ is now known as Lokiase zer0o: sudo apt-get remove --purge korganizer But it still won't neccesarily remove shortcuts, rc files or so on which are in home directories. Only system files which it originally installed with the package. 19:00 hello all, can someone tell me how to go from ubuntu to kubuntu? 19:00 fabio: /join #ubuntu-it for Italian 19:01 Lokiase: if you want kde desktop sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 19:01 ok sorry :) 19:02 genii: thank u man! and how do i remove the other stuff? i can do it manually but i dunno where the files are located physically 19:02 how do i disable hardware rendering and switch on software rendering for kde4 in 8.10. 19:03 hubert_: doesnt it conflict with the languages? 19:03 what do you mean languages ? 19:03 last time I installed kubuntu desktop, some things were in dutch, some in english 19:03 hubert_: last time I installed kubuntu desktop, some things were in dutch, some in english 19:04 that depens on how much packages are translated, and if you installed all the localized packages, and if all the settings are correct 19:05 genii: while removing it thatz what the output said http://paste.ubuntu.com/107902/ does this mean it removed also kdepim? i needed that! does it mean kdepim cant work without korganizer? uff... 19:05 ** kubuntu bug squishing talk in #ubuntu-classroom 19:06 hubert_: now its asks me kdm of gdm??? 19:09 dm is display manager, k is for kde, g for gnome , 19:11 so K?:) 19:11 what you prefer, most kde users choose kdm 19:11 === RoozbehOffline is now known as roozbehonline zer0o: You could try after to install kdepim 19:16 pwet 19:17 hello. does anyone know how to disable the session lock on suspend? 19:18 i have two users on one laptop, when one suspends, the computer is able to resume without needfor a pasword, but when the session belongs to the other user, the computer suspendes and also locks the session, requiring a password for resume. 19:18 i want to leave it as no password for all users... 19:18 but i can't find any conf option in kde to manage this... 19:19 (this is kde 3.5.9, on hardy) 19:19 i have a big prolem : "the Nvidia kernel module has version 19:20 180.22 but ths nvidia driver component has version 180.11 19:20 === Darkrift2 is now known as DarkriftX jado: Does: apt-cache policy nvidia-new-kernel-source report version 180.22 as being available to install? 19:28 u admins dont get bored of the same questions over n over n doing the samething everyday? 19:29 xp-killer: We live for it 19:29 or 19:29 at least the bots do 19:29 === French76 is now known as alan__ uten: ok if u say so. 19:32 It's rarely ever the same thing every day just in between releases 19:33 new release different things to anwser 19:33 Just do it every day till the new release 19:33 at least in Kubuntu we have 4 releases a year 19:33 yeah but its a kind of scrary to upgrade and loose eveything 19:34 You don't have to upgrade 19:35 Is there anyway to fix an FLV header? I can't play or convert this file because of a header error, and I don't know how to fix this :/ 19:36 does anyone know how to stop the session from locking up on suspend? 19:38 Tims: oketa ? 19:40 ok so I have kubuntu installed on a usb memory stick.... now I want to get a web browser that supports flash- how do I get it on my system? 19:41 bukharin: Try in /etc/default/acpi-support changing LOCK_SCREEN=true to LOCK_SCREEN=false 19:42 indystorm: You are running now on usb version or still on installer cd or so? 19:42 no I am running kubuntu directly off the usb memory card- it's a bit slow on disk access, but otherwise runs very fast 19:43 genii: but that's a system wide conifg... i only experience lock up with one user, other users suspend without locks.... 19:43 Did that one user change something? 19:44 indystorm: So then just install firefox and flashplugin-nonfree the normal way 19:44 ok now how do I install firefox? 19:45 can I do it with adept? 19:45 Ye 19:46 s 19:46 indystorm: For flashplugin-nonfree you will need to enable the multiverse repository in Adept 19:47 hello .. i have a driver that i want to install for my webcam.. its in tar.gz format ... how do i install it .. does anyone know ??? 19:54 exist another client program like Kopete under ubuntu ? 19:57 lakis1982, in the terminal : tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz ..then go into the folder it creates and find the readme test for further instructions. 19:57 test=text 19:57 marcel: 19:57 yes 19:58 not quite like kopete 19:58 hi i need help ; i can't have the 640x480 resolution : my desktop does not scale on the screen 19:58 lakis1982: un tar it 19:58 let me try 19:58 i want to use YM under ubuntu, kopete fails 19:58 lakis1982: Un-tar the file. Make sure you have packages build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)    installed. Then cd into the dir which it untarred to. Read the readme file there. 19:58 uten: do you know the name of program please ?? 19:59 lakis1982: The usual instructions in the readme will be something like:  make && sudo make install          then likely:sudo depmod -a            if it's a module 19:59 !im 19:59 Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin 19:59 Pidgin , thank you 20:00 ciao 20:00 i untar it and a folder was created 20:00 there is inside a file with name read and install ... but it doesnt say anything avout installation 20:01 its saying about compiling the driver 20:01 The compilation will install. 20:01 hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part 20:03 lakis1982: Then re-read my instructions and follow them 20:03 do you guys have a webcam in linux? 20:04 lakis1982: I use a Microsoft VX6000 which U had to compile a specialised driver for also. 20:04 i have creative webcam nx.. do you know any driver for it ?? 20:05 i have kubuntu 8.10 20:05 Jado: does your mouse push the edge of the screen? 20:06 ok so it says firefox is installed, how do I access it? 20:07 no uten, it disappears 20:08 lakis1982: The gspca driver should work for it 20:08 (only on the bottom of the screen) 20:08 and how do i install it ? 20:08 your mouse pointer goes away when it hits the edge of the monitor? 20:09 lakis1982: Does command:  modprobe -l | grep gspca                       show a result? 20:09 uten: the bottom edge, yes ; actually it does not go away, it's just that i can't see it anymore ; for example, i can click on the K-Button without seeing it, because i know that is it in the bottom left corner 20:10 it gives me some lines 20:11 lakis1982: Good. then you already have the driver. 20:11 and why camera is not working in skype? 20:12 lakis1982:  It should just take:  sudo modprobe gspca                      to load the driver 20:12 xp-killer its not scary at all 20:12 lakis1982: skype does not always recognise the same webcams that otherwise work ok in linux. It has it's own list of approved webcams 20:12 it says....fatal : module gspca not found 20:12 just learn to dual boot - keep a stable and a experimental, and if your really bored you can keep same username... and backup good configs in stable so when u go expermental u can redo it easily 20:13 share /home 20:13 so? 20:15 it says....fatal : module gspca not found 20:15 why are there so many dependencies for konqueror on ubuntu gnome 20:15 nippz: yes cause i just upgrade 3 days ago and my pc had probs and i had lots of data i didnt want to lost 20:15 1 upgraded, 32 newly installed, 0 to remove and 120 not upgraded. 20:15 just to get a browser 20:16 uten: do you have any idea ? 20:16 === charus is now known as Charus Jado: Well first question is why do you ned that low a res? 20:16 uten: to play starcraft ^^ 20:16 === DarkSmoke is now known as DS-Gaming hello ... 20:17 ha ha 20:17 ha ha ? 20:18 === Hexi is now known as Loc Starcraft as a motivator :) 20:18 === Loc is now known as Lohki thank you for pidgin, run fine 20:19 is anyone around 20:20 ys 20:20 uten: very nice game :) and startcraft 2 will soon come out ! 20:20 Jado: I know what video card? 20:20 hey can some one tell me how to get flash one kubuntu 20:21 lakis1982: Try:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install module-assistant && sudo module-assistant -k "/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)" auto-install gspca-source 20:21 on* 20:21 does anyone have an idea for my 640x480 resolution problem ? 20:21 why the hell do i have to install all those dependencies 20:21 Hi, I have two monitors. I'm wondering, is it possible when I'm switching windows to let the switching only take place on screen1 ? 20:22 flash??? 20:22 its downloading and installing some things 20:22 uten: geforce 7200 20:23 === manuel__ is now known as fliegenderfrosch lakis1982: If it makes some errors, use the pastebin website to copy and paste the error there so I can see what it's doing 20:23 mohbana: For? 20:23 uten: konqueror 20:23 what driver? 20:23 uten: i've tried 180.11 and 180.22 20:24 mohbana: How are you installing it? 20:24 lakis1982: If it completes without error, you should be able to do the: sudo modprobe gspca 20:24 could anyone with KDE 4.1.3 kubuntu packages and amarok 2.0.1.1 please try thid: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181338 20:24 uten: CL, i just typed konqueror and it gave me a install command 20:24 hello 20:24 Updated infos about 1 packages 20:24 Bad kernel version specification at /usr/bin/module-assistant line 566, <$apt> line 6. 20:24 thats the only thing it gave me.. 20:24 is it error? 20:24 ........................................................... 20:25 lakis1982: Yes. 20:25 mohbana: sudo apt-get install konqueror 20:25 uten: yes 20:25 lakis1982: yeah it is 20:25 so? 20:25 that will instal depends 20:25 my question is; why so many dependencies.  i just want to install the browser not the whole platform 20:26 Well. That's fun. I can oops my system by doing wine /path/to/arcanum/setup.exe twice.... 20:26 lakis1982: Try only then: sudo module-assistant auto-install gspca-source                                  you will get a text interface, you want to select BUILD 20:26 mohbana: Konqueror isn't really a browser it's a viewer 20:28 It's probably the most heavy user of KDE technologies 20:28 lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination 20:28 Build of the package gspca-source failed! How do you wish     │ 20:28 Hence why it is in the base install 20:28 │ to proceed?                                                   │ 20:28 │                                                               │ 20:29 │       VIEW     Examine the build log file                     │ 20:29 │       CONTINUE Skip and continue with the next operation      │ 20:29 │       STOP     Stop processing the build commands 20:29 so what browser uses webkit then 20:29 view? 20:29 !paste 20:29 Auroa 20:29 pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) 20:29 looking to fix my drive -- when I run ntfslabel /dev/sdb1 it produces an error, wants windows, I don't want to do this? 20:30 lakis1982: Yes, you should have a red and blue screen with a few items to choose from in the middle. This responds only to key entriy, no mouse. Use arrow keys to choose selection, enter to activate. Tab switches fields 20:30 === tyler_d2 is now known as tyler_d1 === tyler_d1 is now known as tyler_d aurora is a browser? 20:31 !pastebin | lakis 20:32 lakis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) 20:32 ok but its a large text and i can select it all with mouse because it doesnt work... 20:32 i cant select 20:32 mohbana: What are you looking for specifically? 20:33 mohbana: I think it's spelled Arora, but yes, it's a Qt4 web browser using Webkit, Konqueror uses KHTML, which is what Webkit was forked from 20:33 lakis1982: "[15:28:49] lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination 20:33 a browser on linux that uses webkit 20:33 epiphany 20:33 It went default webkit like a year ago 20:33 lakis1982: "[15:28:49] lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination"   --note I said go to bottom of log there, highlight the last part you can see 20:33 Sorry for dbl post guys 20:34 http://paste.ubuntu.com/107958/plain/ 20:35 hmm 20:37 not sure 20:37 I have a puzzle with Intrepid and Open Office. With openoffice.org-kde it does not save or export. Without, the menues don't behave properly. Any ideas? 20:37 how does it not save? 20:38 also something else.. when i put a dvd movie on the dvd player in pc kubuntu doesnt load it ...and i cant see the movie..generally no disc is autorun ... why ??? 20:39 === rob is now known as Guest20998 Bah. Work is requiring me for an extended period. I'll need to be /away a while 20:44 lakis1982: At any rate, perhaps google about installing the gspca driver for ubuntu/kubuntu 20:45 hi 20:45 ciao 20:46 hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part 20:48 Jado: You can ask in #ubuntu as well 20:48 It's not a KDE specific issue 20:48 yes uten thanks i am 20:48 === shadeslayer1 is now known as shadeskayer uten: If your message was for me? I have removed openoffice extensions for GTK, Gnome and KDE. Open Office is running fine and very fast! Apearence is a bit clunky though. 20:54 hey guys, im trying to add mount over a samba folder.. what do i have to add in /etc/fstab?  "//server/laptop     /home/raiden/Server     cifs      defaults   0,0" doesnt work 20:54 :-) but it saves? 20:55 === shadeskayer is now known as shadeslayer how do i uninstall konqueror and it's dependencies ? 20:55 mohbana: Which one did you install? 20:56 KDE4? 20:56 uten: loads, save exports, does all that I would expect it to. I will raise the issue with kubuntu, kde and openoffice.org. There's a bug in there somewhere. 20:56 === hubert_ is now known as pvandewyngaerde_ uten: i just want to uninstall konqueror, arora seems fine 20:57 i remember konqeuror downloading a heep of files 20:57 apt-get remove konqueror 20:57 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 120 not upgraded. 20:58 which is strange 20:58 what about the rest of the 32 packages is just installed 20:58 mohbana: in theory you should be able to do a sudo apt-get autoremove afterwards, where it removes the additional libraries 21:02 === shadeslayer1 is now known as shadeslayer mohbana: auroa uses them? :) 21:05 hi, is there a clean way to completely switch an install from ubuntu to kubuntu such that there isn't any left over ubuntu packages? 21:10 i worked on my /etc/fstab, now it tells me that something is missing at the end of the file.. i dont know the english word but i think it is "tab" 21:12 khaije1: the convention would be 21:13 apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  whether or not that would leave any remnants behind, I don't know 21:13 how do i get the dependencies of a package on the CL for apt? 21:13 it has to be said that the only way to be sure is a clean install, of course 21:14 How do i keep my folder in details option everytime i do back it comes back to "preview view" 21:14 mohbana: aptitude show 21:15 mohbana: or apt-cache depends 21:15 by CL, I assumed you meant CLI 21:16 last question, can i find out when a package was installed? 21:17 ciao, qualcuno parla italiano? 21:17 not that I know of 21:17 !it 21:17 Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) 21:17 ok, grazie 21:18 is there an install log kept by apt or something along those lines 21:20 hello all,how can I add widgets to the panel? 21:20 hi 21:21 sven_: afaik this depends on the version you have. with the newer versions you should be able to drag them directly to the panel, at least if the panel is in 'edit mode' 21:22 === lacopt_ausente is now known as lacopt fliegenderfrosch: I click right to the button, but when i want to drag them to it, it is not working 21:23 mohbana: /var/log/aptitude*, but probably not complete as old logs were rotated out 21:24 sven_: have you clicked on the cashew in the panel before? 21:24 sven_: which kde version do you have anyway? 21:24 !wlan 21:26 Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs 21:26 How do i keep my folder in details option everytime i do back it comes back to "preview view" 21:27 toosl -> configure dolpin 21:28 choose default view there 21:28 ok so now I got firefox installed but I cannot find the icon 21:34 how do I get the icon? 21:34 indystorm: it’s probably somewhere in /usr/share/icons 21:34 ok 21:34 indystorm: or rather in /usr/share/pixmaps 21:35 I’ve got a firefox-3.0.png there 21:36 hello 21:36 !list 21:36 Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots 21:36 === DS-Gaming is now known as DarkSmoke === robert__ is now known as robertknight Hi i've installed kubuntu 8.10 but it seems to be buggy as hell crashes many times back to kdm 21:41 many times after right mouse button menu's on systray icons 21:42 selecting settings from top menu in apps 21:42 i've read about some other people with comparing problems but no solutions 21:43 fasfas3: the only thing that can make it crash back to KDM are video drivers 21:44 KDE apps don't have the permission to do it if they tried 21:44 NVidia I'm guessing? 21:44 fasfas3: 8.10 uses kde 4.1 and kde 4.2 should be out in a few days. this is a lot more stable, so I’d try this before working like hell on solutions 21:45 I have nvidia yes 21:45 Does anyone know how to send a right ctrl signal to vbox over vnc? 21:46 but having the same problems under compiz as well 21:46 seems to be kde/dbus or something 21:46 quite unuseable 21:47 the 4.2 beta is somewhat better 21:47 powertool08: some vnc clients have a special function for sending commands 21:49 === alberto is now known as Guest19056 After installing Ubunto I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed? 21:50 hi all 21:51 hello all, how do I add a hyperlink on the desktop of kubuntu 8.10? 21:53 i'm new in linux..i have a new computer  HP and a internal TV card Hauppauge  winTV HVR-1200 model 71xxx hybrid dvb-t no FP and i cannot install his driver in the latest kubuntu 21:54 can i have some help please...?. 21:54 === david_ is now known as david_edmundson === quassel59 is now known as astromme ok so I found that I can type mozilla as a run command and have it start- how do I make a desktop icon for it? 22:03 hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part 22:06 Any help in the room? 22:09 is there a way to manually load a plasmoid widget if it doesn't show in the plasmoid browser? 22:09 I built the plasmoid, did a checkinstall, installed the pkg, no errors, not showing in the plasmoid browser after logging out\in, crtl-alt-bksp, or runnig kbuildsyscoca4 22:09 the kde guys are awful reticent 22:10 maybe the suspect it's the ihatethecashew widget I'm trying to add 22:10 Hi how doI remove dragon player from kubuntu, sudo apt-get purge dragonplayer tries to remove kubuntu-desktop 22:10 kubuntu-desktop is what they call a meta pkg I think 22:11 as does the remove option 22:11 removing it won't actually remove kde 22:11 I don't think 22:11 unless it also wants to remove kdebase, then lookout 22:11 ok 22:11 thanks 22:11 seriously though this cashew is about to make me start hitting things 22:12 you cannot remove dragonplayer becouse Kubuntu-desktop package depends on it 22:12 !ohmy mcrandello 22:13 Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy mcrandello 22:13 !ohmy | mcrandello 22:13 mcrandello: Please watch your language, attitude, and topic to help keep this channel friendly and helpful. Remember, there are kids here! 22:13 i'm new in linux..i have a new computer  HP and a internal TV card Hauppauge  winTV HVR-1200 model 71xxx hybrid dvb-t no FP and i cannot install his driver in the latest kubuntu 22:13 can i have some help please...?. 22:13 EagleScreen: what are you jokin 22:13 pleasee 22:13 mgroman, ? I didn't think anyone would literally think I was going to get violent over a computer screen lmao 22:13 deathoncity http://www.linuxtv.org/ 22:14 cjae no joke, kubuntu-desktop metapackage depends on dragonplayer, then if you uninstall dragonplayer, you break kubuntu installation by uninstalling lot of useful things, its the kubuntu style 22:15 kubuntu-desktop shuld recommend dragonplayer, and not depends on it 22:15 report a bug against kubuntu-desktop if you consider 22:15 EagleScreen: I just uninstalled it, that can't be right 22:16 so what now 22:16 it's fine 22:16 EagleScreen: have you tried to uninstall it 22:16 how many packages did it remove 22:16 i am trying now.. 22:16 apt-cache showpkg kubuntu-desktop 22:17 mcrandello: 22:17 he following packages will be REMOVED: 22:17 dragonplayer* kubuntu-desktop* 22:17 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 22:17 After this operation, 1016kB disk space will be freed. 22:17 it uninstalls kubuntu-desktop 22:17 which doesn't provide any files 22:17 it's just there so you can easily install it from say a normal ubuntu installation 22:18 cjae are you using KDE 4.2? 22:18 the one with 8.10 22:18 ibex 22:18 === igor is now known as igor_ it pulls in all the other packages that it lists in that apt-cache command so they're listed as dependencies but removing the desktop package doesn't remove any of them other than the one you specify 22:19 removal of kubuntu-desktop does not makr for removal other packages, that is good, but is not usually 22:19 This I'm not sure on but I think that all the foo-desktop packages in *buntu work that way 22:20 but you may have problems with kuubntu updates if you do not have kubuntu-desktop package installed 22:20 anyone else in this channel have an opinion 22:21 After installing Ubuntu I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed? 22:21 that would be the stupidest thing I have ever 22:22 cjae the problem is that in some installations, all KDE and kubuntu stuff is installed from kubuntu-desktop package installation, then, if later you remove kubuntu-desktop, then all the other packages are aumatically marked for removal, becouse they were installed to satisfice the kubuntu-desktop dependences 22:23 what 22:23 but now that is not the case, i dont know what, kubuntu installation scripts must be changed 22:24 sssssssssssoooooooooo 22:25 I am safe or no 22:25 EagleScreen: are you talking about a kubuntu install or update? 22:26 you should be safe, if not copy this down somewhere: 22:26 sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 22:26 problem solved 22:26 if I did that now would it install dragon player again as dependency? 22:27 you betcha 22:27 is there a way to install without dependencies in .deb's 22:27 that's the whole point of kubuntu-desktop though 22:28 http://www.debianadmin.com/install-kde-desktop-in-ubuntu.html 22:28 cjae dont worry, you can live without kubuntu-desktop package 22:28 it won't break updates or upgrades 22:28 it's mainly there so you can install say a basic system or if you wanted to switch from gnome 22:29 that's all 22:29 objective of kubuntu-desktop package is install a new application by default in kubuntu in future versions, but if you dont want them.. you do not need kubuntu-desktop 22:29 ah I see so if down the road iceape is installed default in righteous rihno and I ididn't have kubuntu-desktop installed it would not install iceape 22:31 yes.. 22:32 ok 22:32 why does dragon suck so bad 22:33 opps 22:33 sorry 22:33 if Kubuntu Team decides that kpackagekit must be installed by default in kubuntu, then they upload a new version of kubuntu-desktop that depens on or recomends kpackagekit, and when you update kubuntu-dsktop, kpackagekit is installed 22:33 first it had no sound or picture installed xine plugins, then just no sound after reboot had sound, now when watching avi from optical drive it just reads fro whereever on the disc 22:35 After installing Ubuntu I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed? or is each pack dependent on their own subdirectory file. 22:35 why did they get rid of kaffeine 22:36 becouse kaffeine is a KDE3 application 22:37 of was it totem 22:37 s/of/or 22:37 they are trying to use KDE4 or Qt4 applications 22:37 but you can install kaffeine in kubuntu 8.10 22:37 kaffeine is isn't 22:37 it 22:37 * cjae appologizes for bad typing 22:38 8.10 has other KDE3 apps installed as amarok, k3b, konvrsation.. 22:38 kaffeine was the default vodeo player in previous Kubuntu releases 22:38 oh I see 22:38 a KDE4 version of kaffeine is under construction 22:39 who decides this stuff - "well we have good player but lets put a buggy one in the new kde release for giggles" 22:40 can't read iso's and such 22:40 you could always go back and use the last LTS 22:41 right 22:41 cjae just install kaffeine if you want 22:41 right 22:42 hey how do I say get a network list for all the irc networks in konversation, like in xchat without having to manually find all of them and add them? 22:43 EagleScreen: since I have plenty of space should I reinstall dragon? cause I might down the road want to install gnome or xfce (or does it matter) 22:45 that way 22:46 I just didn't want to have such a buggy app on my system 22:46 cjae is a good idea to have kubuntu-desktop installed perhaps you have to install dragonplayer, if you do not like it, do not use it, it is simple 22:48 right but doesn't having buggy apps create security problems 22:48 do not be paranoic, dragonplayer won't destoy your system lol 22:49 ok 22:49 EagleScreen: did you see my other question? 22:50 === CodeGuru is now known as solid_liquid yes, but i have no idea 22:51 === BlueEagl1 is now known as BlueEagle can I just maybe get the network list from xchat like in its install files and copy it to konversation 22:52 when I install dragon player it does not install kubuntu-desltop 22:55 wait it does install dragon player when I install desktop though ...sigh 22:57 thanks for the help 22:57 does anyone know if Ubuntu has C compiling capabilities?  like gcc 23:03 === Ardarandir1 is now known as Ardarandir jimtucker: of course!  sudo apt-get install build-essential 23:09 Is there a special name in the "Start" Menu for Azureus or Vuze because after installation it's not there at all 23:10 I figured it'd be a great idea to delete everything out of my menu that I don't need. How can I get into the kcontrol equivalent in kde4 from terminal? 23:10 how much memory i need on the disk for full instalation of kubutu (including C, C++ sources) ? 23:11 now i have 20GB . It's enough ? 23:11 KDE settings? 23:12 How to get there? 23:12 is it better to wait for 4.2 or os kde 4.2 rc1 stable now? 23:12 hola 23:18 hay alguien? 23:18 dios hace años que no entro en irc, ni siquiera recuerdo comandos basicos (como el de cambiar el nick :S) 23:18 ./nick ;p 23:19 #linares 23:19 jaja 23:19 thanks! 23:19 ups sorry por lo del canal 23:19 no lo hice a drede 23:19 alguien que este familiarizado con kubuntu? 23:20 hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part 23:21 that's cause you've to change the resolution 23:22 jado ! 23:22 myselftion ? 23:22 never mind 23:23 bye! 23:23 bye 23:23 === brazila is now known as Brasil hi guys 23:24 how much memory i need on the disk for full instalation of kubutu (including C, C++ sources) ? 23:25 #ubuntu 23:25 i use kubuntu 23:26 guys 23:27 im using kurumin ng and im from brasil but i dont know 23:27 any chanel from brasil 23:28 hey ppl's 23:29 I was woundering something and maybe someone can help me out with my problem that i am haveing so here it gose 23:30 i would like to put avi to mpeg in linux but i don't know how to, can someone help me out? 23:30 hey all 23:35 \$clan 23:39 Skii there are converters for it, ffmpeg can handle it 23:44 Don´t know precise which on, avidemux can you use 23:45 Hi I am using kde 4.x and nvidia twinview can I add panels to the tv out of is just for full screen movies and such as I have a 1080p plasma and like to sit on couch and surf 23:45 or must I use separate X server screens? 23:46 You can put most times on your pc to your tv 23:46 someone directed me here from #ubuntu saying that panels on your tv is possible with twinview but I can't for the life of me figure it out 23:48 I can see the windows on the tv that I drag there 23:48

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