[00:03] <Dragnslcr> faileas- if they resolve to the same IP address, no. Protocols only work with IP addresses, not hostnames (HTTP is a kind-of-sepcial exception)
[00:04] <faileas> Dragnslcr: erf. thanks, someone was asking me to help host a second IRC server for his network, but i'm unwilling to give up the independance i have on mine ;p
[00:07] <Dragnslcr> There's more than one port reserved for IRC, so you can run more than one server using different ports
[00:08] <Dragnslcr> People connecting to the servers would just have to know what port to use
[00:11] <phoenixz> I have the new open office3 installed on my kubuntu 8.10, but for some reason, the KDE integration isn't working.. there are no icons, everything is text.. (for example, the big B now says "bold"... the table image says "Tables".. colors are all weird..  How can I fix this problem?
[00:14] <buckethead> phoenixz: Whatever theme you have selected isn't installed.
[00:14] <buckethead> I don't remember the package name, hold on.
[00:14] <phoenixz> buckethead: theme? you mean KDE theme? or you mean that openoffice also has its own themes?
[00:15] <buckethead> openoffice theme. Go into openoffice prefs/setup/whatever and figure out what theme your set to.
[00:16] <monolith> My 'Sound Blaster' sound card has just stoped functioning. All volume sliders are turned up, pulse and KDE4 still detect it, the speakers are still working (tested seperately). But I hear nothing. Not even cating /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp does anything. Help?
[00:17] <buckethead> phoenixz: Whatever it comes out to be, do 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-style-whateveritis' then restart openoffice. whateveritis set to whatever theme is selected, of course.
[00:17] <phoenixz> buckethead: that would be in tools > options?? Don't see it anywhere
[00:19] <Yalion> hi
[00:19] <monolith> Can anyone help?
[00:20] <phoenixz> monolith: if you'd ask a question, I suppose we could yeah..
[00:20] <phoenixz> ah
[00:20] <buckethead> phoenixz: Yes. Under openoffice->view iconsize and style, its probably human thus 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-style-human'
[00:20] <phoenixz> monolith: missed it :)
[00:20] <Yalion> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[00:20] <Yalion> :(
[00:21] <buckethead> monolith: alsamixer mute got me several times. I would poke that.
[00:22] <Yalion> :(
[00:22] <monolith> buckethead: poke that? If I run "alsamixer" it shows the pulseaudio volume slider. It's at max and isn't muted.
[00:23] <buckethead> Ok, thats not it then. I tend to be a little non-technical in my phraseology.
[00:23] <monolith> buckethead: That's okay, I need all the advice I can get to try and fix this.
[00:24] <p_quarles> monolith: the problem is most likely pulseaudio; turn it off and see if things work better for you
[00:25] <monolith> turn it off?
[00:25] <p_quarles> as in the opposite of leaving it on
[00:25] <monolith> Well, yea. I'm just trying to remmember how. Is it 'sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop"?
[00:26] <p_quarles> monolith: under audio devices in systemsettings
[00:26] <p_quarles> although I believe what you said or something like it would work as well
[00:27] <monolith> Yea, tried that. Didn't seem to stop it... Hold on... also I'm under KDE4 by the way.
[00:28] <p_quarles> monolith: you'd also have to enable the direct audio device at the same time
[00:28] <Yalion> someone help me :~
[00:29] <monolith> Okay I killed pulse with the 'exit' command in pacmd.
[00:30] <p_quarles> monolith: okay, in my systemsettings, its under multimedia > device preference > audio output > music
[00:30] <monolith> Even running "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" gives me nothing.
[00:30] <p_quarles> that should pull up a list of devices
[00:30] <monolith> and I've tried running test on the device itself before.
[00:30] <monolith> still no joy.
[00:30] <p_quarles> monolith: I take it the card has worked in the past?
[00:31] <monolith> p_quarles: Perfectly
[00:31] <monolith> Right up untill a kernel update and a reboot.
[00:31] <p_quarles> monolith: you still haven't convinced me that you have enabled another device as well as disabling pa
[00:32] <monolith> I didn't mention before out of not wanting to flood the chanel that I have two cards. The other is an integrated crappy thing that KDE4 uses for system notifications. That works fine. It's just the sound blaster that nothing works from.
[00:33] <p_quarles> monolith: have you tried selecting it from the menu I mentioned?
[00:33] <monolith> The sound blaster directly. yea
[00:33] <p_quarles> okay; still didn't work?
[00:34] <monolith> Yea, nothing. Test button gives no sound still.
[00:34] <p_quarles> hmm -- was the kernel update a new version or just a patch?>
[00:34] <monolith> Amarok 1.4 doens't use KDE4's preferences for audio output device anyway does it? I mean, I use amarok as my main music player.
[00:34] <p_quarles> if the former, you could test to see if it's the kernel
[00:35] <monolith> and it was from 2.6.17-9-generic to 2.6.17-11-generic. Oh I'm on 64bit if that's relevent.
[00:35] <p_quarles> I think it does, since there are hard limits on what a single audio device can do
[00:36] <monolith> How do you mean?
[00:36] <p_quarles> I mean I don't think you can have multiple drivers controlling the same card
[00:36] <p_quarles> in any case, what Ubuntu version are you on with such an old kernel?
[00:37] <monolith> Oh I typed it wrong sorry. It's 2.6.27 not 2.6.17 Sorry my mistake.
[00:37] <p_quarles> oh, okay
[00:38] <p_quarles> monolith: well, since it's a version change, you should still have the old kernel available in the grub menu, and you should be able to boot to that
[00:38] <p_quarles> since this is the major change, I would see if that's the issue before anything else, really
[00:39] <monolith> Okay I'll give that a crack and come back. I don't think the binary nvidia display drivers will like me much for that though so I may be contacting you next from the command line.
[00:40] <p_quarles> yeah, binary blobs do make things complicated :(
[00:41] <AhmedG> hmm
[00:41] <AhmedG> I mean hello
[00:41] <AhmedG> I am trying to get to the #kde-devel list
[00:41] <AhmedG> using konversation
[00:41] <AhmedG> but I'm a bit confused as to how to do so.
[00:41] <AhmedG> I am used to gnome and the gnome client made it very easy to access chat rooms on freenode
[00:42] <Dr_willis> click where it syas #kde-debel perhaps? :)
[00:42] <Dr_willis> or try /join #whatever
[00:46] <monolith> p_quarles: Weird. It works perfect now. pulse + phonon are playing nicely, the sound card works perfect. Hell, even nvidia's binary blob played nice and didn't refuse to start the x-server due to a diffrent kernel version...
[00:47] <p_quarles> monolith: well, I actually haven't upgraded to 27-11 yet; can't wait to see what happens
[00:47] <monolith> p_quarles: Have fun. You don't have a sound blaster do you?
[00:48] <p_quarles> no, Intel HDA; you said the integrated one worked for you, right?
[00:48] <White_Pelican> I need help with the weather widgit in KDE 4.2 rc1 under intrepid. What location should I type in? a zip code, a city name or what?
[00:48] <monolith> Yea, my integrated is an intel HDA I think. It's an nvidia board though.
[00:48] <p_quarles> monolith: I'm not seeing a new kernel; is this in proposed?
[00:49] <monolith> p_quarles: Quite possibly... I think I remember enabileing preposed when I was fiddleing with my package manger... that'll be it...
[00:50] <p_quarles> monolith: well, that's what you get for running pre-release - seriously, though, this sounds like a bug that the developers should be aware of; if you have time to go to launchpad, please consider it
[00:51] <monolith> Okay. I've turned off perposed. I guess I'll just use 27-9 for now. And I'll do that. Sorry for not mentioning that, I just wan't playing attention when messing with Adept's settings.
[00:52] <marcel> how can i configure Kopete ?
[00:53] <jammen33> rigth  click on the kopete system try icon
[00:53] <White_Pelican> to do what?
[00:54] <marcel> to add a user on yahoomessenger
[00:54] <jammen33> then click on 'configure'
[00:54] <marcel> Kopete->Settings->Configure->Accounts ...
[00:54] <bigos> Hello! What to google for if I want to add a new partition to my system (it was previously windows ntfs, now its free space), and I want it to have all the /home/ directories? Will just simple copying and changing mountpoint in gparted work?
[00:54] <marcel> after ... ?
[00:55] <jammen33> click add account
[00:55] <monolith> p_quarles: How do I submit the bug then? I found the package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic but I don't know how to use launchpad.
[00:55] <marcel> i do that
[00:55] <bigos> oops, sorry, missed it -- I want all the /home/ directories on the new partition of course, and not on the old one... because it's  running out of free space
[00:55] <p_quarles> bigos: just use gparted to format and add a mount point -- you can use the live cd
[00:56] <p_quarles> monolith: you'll need to create an account, and then there's a button in the bugs section to "submit"
[00:56] <monolith> Oh okay
[00:56] <jammen33> marcel: select yahoo
[00:56] <p_quarles> monolith: its a little messy, but you'll get there - it's also good about checking for dupes
[00:57] <jammen33> marcel: and click next
[00:57] <marcel> on Account Preferences i must to set option Override default server info ??
[00:57] <jammen33> no
[00:58] <marcel> ok
[00:58] <White_Pelican> I need help with the weather widgit in KDE 4.2 rc1 under intrepid. What location should I type in? a zip code, a city name or what?
[00:58] <bigos> p_quarles: will every user home directory be automatically copied, or do I need to do this manually? Or is it even possible and won't destroy my files?
[00:58] <White_Pelican> I tried my city and my zip code and it said it din't exist
[00:59] <p_quarles> bigos: so you want the free space added to /home? you can do that if the space is contiguous
[00:59] <monolith> Is the bugs section for the whole of intrepid or just for this package?
[00:59] <jammen33> White_Pelican: is it the lcd weather?
[00:59] <White_Pelican> yes
[01:00] <jammen33> White_Pelican: i cant get it to work for m ether
[01:01] <White_Pelican> ah
[01:01] <White_Pelican> guess it's still broken
[01:01] <White_Pelican> ty
[01:01] <jammen33> have you tried yawp(yet another weather plasmoid)?
[01:01] <White_Pelican> no, is it a widget or a program in the repository?
[01:02] <jammen33> its a widgit
[01:02] <bigos> p_quarles: something like that... In fact, now everything is on the one partition -- including /home... I've got vast free space, which I want to use as a NEW /home, but I would like to save every file from the old location, and free the space at the same time. I wonder if changing mountpoint to the newly created partition and just moving files to it would work?
[01:02] <jammen33> White_Pelican: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=94106&forumpage=0&PHPSESSID=4a5e6e798f283066007b9c3965912d0c
[01:03] <p_quarles> monolith: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[01:03] <p_quarles> and it should be filed against the kernel, with as much information as possible
[01:04] <p_quarles> bigos: like I said, if it's contiguous, you can do that by expanding the current /home partition
[01:04] <monolith> p_quarles: Yea, in the advanced version you can select the package. I did there.
[01:04] <p_quarles> bigos: if it's not, then the easiest thing is to reformat
[01:04] <p_quarles> bigos: either way, it would be foolish not to backup all data before doing the partition work
[01:04] <p_quarles> monolith: just the kernel should work
[01:05] <monolith> Oh, should I change it from the spesific version I used?
[01:06] <White_Pelican> jammen33, is there a deb? looks like I would have to build it
[01:06] <p_quarles> no, including the version; the maintainers will likely have followups and/or tell if you need to file against a different package
[01:09] <monolith> Right. I'll leave it with the package set to "linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic"
[01:09] <bigos> p_quarles: It's not contiguous ... There is a swap partition between current location and the free space. Unfortunately, my whole installation is done on the single "/" mountpoint, and there is everything on this partition. What I want to do is to export /home to another one ;). Sorry for bad english. So, you say there is no easy way to move this and not to break anything in the system? Would messing around with swap break anything? All
[01:09] <bigos> important data is safe, I just want to avoid configuring the system all over again if something goes wong
[01:11] <p_quarles> bigos: oh, so you want to *move* the entirety of /home to the new partition? yeah, that can be done
[01:11] <liz> hi all, can anyone tell me how to find the gid of a group?
[01:11] <jammen33> White_Pelican: http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ubuntu/pool/main/p/plasmoid-yawp/plasmoid-yawp_0.1.65~jaunty~ppa3_i386.deb
[01:11] <White_Pelican> I'm running Intrepid
[01:12] <jammen33> you using kde 4.1?
[01:12] <jammen33> or 4.2?
[01:14] <White_Pelican> 4.2
[01:14] <bigos> p_quarles: so, it's just like "mv -R oldhome newhome" and no other configuration needed? Or would it be automatic after a mountpoint change? Or how would I address the *old home* if the new home would be /home ? ;) I would like to know this now, before I start messing with partitions table
[01:14] <jammen33> i think it will work
[01:15] <jammen33> im using intrepid kde 4.2 and i installed it
[01:15] <p_quarles> bigos: you want to move the files from $OLDHOME to $NEWHOME and delete the old /home directory before running off the installed OS
[01:15] <p_quarles> bigos: the good news is that you can do that all from the live disk
[01:16] <Rudd-O> guys
[01:16] <p_quarles> bigos: basically, the partitions would have the correct mount points in /etc/fstab, but having two /home directories would confuse the filesystem; I don't know what would happen
[01:16] <Rudd-O> any way to convert an AVI in MJPEG to AVI in DIVX?
[01:16] <Rudd-O> on linux, of course
[01:16] <Rudd-O> a nice program todo that?
[01:17] <bigos> oh... ;) yeah, I haven't thought of that it can be done right off the livecd ;) thank you!
[01:17] <Dr_willis> ffmpeg can convert about anything to anything else.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> i was thinking mjpeg and divx were like.. very close to being idencical
[01:18] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: divx compression makes a much smaller file without sacrificing much quality at all
[01:19] <Dr_willis> video encoded with the DivX codec is an MPEG-4 video stream
[01:19] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: for example, a 10 minute screen recording encoded with mjpeg is 433 mb vs 97 mb with divx
[01:20] <robin0800> kdebluetooth4 errors on startup "The name org.openobex was not provided by any .service files" is this a bug?
[01:20] <Dr_willis> DivX Media Format is analogous to media container formats such as Apple's QuickTime. In much the same way that media formats such as DVD specify MPEG-2 video as a part of their specification, the DivX Media Format specifies MPEG-4-compatible video as a part of its specification.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> divx is not a codec  - exactly   - its a container..  from what i recall reading.
[01:21] <Rudd-O> guys, I want a GUI program for a *noob*
[01:21] <Rudd-O> I know my way around mencoder
[01:21] <Dr_willis> mencoder can convert most things to other thigns also. :)
[01:22] <moocow> Rudd-O: i don't think we have anything that is easy for noobs for format conversions really
[01:22] <Rudd-O> mencoder is capable of converting .unobtanium files into .avi
[01:22] <moocow> :/
[01:22] <Rudd-O> moocow: I'm gonna hit you with a privmsg
[01:22] <moocow> lol @ .unobtanioum
[01:22] <moocow> nice
[01:22] <coreymon77> i tend not to bother with format conversions much
[01:22] <coreymon77> i just find ways of getting existing programs to play the format
[01:23] <Dr_willis> the point  i was tryingto make 0 is that   Unles sim gettting terms confused again.. a mjpeg - basically is the same format as a divx  both are mpeg4
[01:24] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: file sizes often differ
[01:24]  * Dr_willis googles the wiki pages some more.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> the file size would differ based on the  video/audio codecs they both are using.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> n multimedia, Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) is an informal name for multimedia formats where each video frame or interlaced field of a digital video sequence is separately compressed as a JPEG image. It is often used in mobile appliances such as digital cameras.
[01:25] <coreymon77> meh
[01:25] <Dr_willis> ok.. m-jpeg is the a very low compression scheme used for things like real time recording/streaming in low power situations it seems
[01:25] <Dr_willis> :) not the same as mpeg4
[01:26] <coreymon77> i still find divx encoding (as in files with the actual .divx extension) to give me a much reduced file size without noticeable loss is quality
[01:27] <Dr_willis> thats most likely due to the  container divx file using H.264 for the codec. Not the actual use of .divx
[01:28] <Progz> Hi. Is there a known problem about Xps computer with a desactivated soundchipset and a soundblaster working but not under version 8.10?
[01:28] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: either way, it works very well for youtube videos
[01:28] <Progz> i had no problem with the 8.04
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Youtube? Now thats not divx or mpeg-4 at all.. from what ive seen Youtube videos normally look nasty.  but it could bew the specific videos
[01:30] <Dr_willis> I think :)
[01:30] <rickey> i dont seem to be able to get my head around ,how to cause a upgrade from kubunntu8.04 to kubuntu 8.10i downlooaded 8.10 from a mirror but loost it in my files ,was going to burn it to  a iso
[01:30] <Progz> so nobody got problem with the fact that their soundcard stop being "discovered" in version 8.10?
[01:30] <White_Pelican> unadvertized feature? hehe
[01:30] <coreymon77> my soundcard is borked to all hell
[01:30] <rickey> but cant i do a strate upgrade
[01:31] <coreymon77> so i cant say anything about soundcard issues
[01:31] <rickey>  f5om adept mmanger
[01:31] <coreymon77> get this one, my soundcard is absolutely nuts
[01:31] <coreymon77> for some reason
[01:32] <ghostcube> anything known about amsynth and kde4 not working
[01:32] <coreymon77> when speakers are plugged into my soundcard, it doesnt work, but when headphones are plugged in, it works
[01:32] <Progz> that's weird lol
[01:32] <apow> plug speakers outlet into socket.
[01:32] <White_Pelican> yes it is
[01:32] <Progz> at least it works a bit at some point
[01:32] <apow> :D
[01:33] <White_Pelican> sure it's not the speakers?
[01:33] <Progz> Anyone knows how to reput yourself in the sudo user list I removed myself don't ask me how lol
[01:33] <rickey> id realy  like to get this upgrade
[01:35] <lemouton> Salut à tous
[01:35] <rickey> can  anyone help mme to get a upgrade started
[01:35] <Progz> Salut lemouton mouah
[01:36] <rickey> 8.04 to 8.10
[01:36] <White_Pelican> upgrade what?
[01:36] <rickey> i am all cault up with my update with 8.04
[01:37] <rickey> id like to upgrade to 8.10
[01:37] <White_Pelican> ah
[01:37] <rickey> just donnt know how to cause it to happen
[01:39] <rickey> http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/kubuntu/intrepid/kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso i downloaded this ,but lost it in my files
[01:40] <rickey> on my mmachine
[01:41] <maverick> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:42] <maverick> can some buddy help me?
[01:42] <maverick> can some buddy help me?can some buddy help me?
[01:42] <rickey> the question is ,is someone welling
[01:42] <maverick> can some buddy help me?
[01:42] <jpedroza> maverick: What do you need?
[01:42] <maverick> can some buddy help me?
[01:42] <jammen33> maverick: wiith>
[01:42] <jammen33> ?
[01:42] <lunar-raven> could anyone please help me out. I'm running kubuntu 6.06..it is all I had to install. I'm trying to upgrade to interpred.  Updated the sources, now I'm getting E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libc6 for findutils, probably a dependency cycle.
[01:43] <jpedroza> lunar-raven: That is quite an old version, not sure upgrading from there is the best option
[01:44] <rickey> no help here
[01:46] <jpedroza> lunar-raven: Here is a walkthrough to perform the update to 8.04.
[01:46] <jpedroza> lunar-raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[01:47] <jpedroza> lunar-raven: after you get to hardy, the update to intrepid is a piece of cake
[01:47] <lunar-raven> Thank you jpe. I'd just download the new version..but my cd burner died.
[01:47] <lunar-raven> Thanks jpedroza :)
[01:47] <jpedroza> lunar-raven: I hate it when hardware fials
[01:47] <lunar-raven> me too =(
[01:47] <monolith> p_quarles: Is this an acceptable bug-report? :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/319440
[01:47] <jpedroza> lunar-raven: Let me know if I can be of any more help
[01:49] <jpedroza> not that I did much
[01:49] <jpedroza> :)
[01:49] <lunar-raven> lol will do jpedroza. Thanks again
[01:51] <p_quarles> monolith: I'm not a developer, so can't speak for those who actually fix the bugs, but that's a lot of presumably useful detail; at the very least, its detailed enough that the maintainer/triager will be able to do something with it, even if that means asking for further details
[01:57] <monolith> Yea, the bit about my audio setup might not be strictly nessicary, but all the guides about writeing bug reports say it's better to have too much detail than too little.
[01:58] <downhill_> how exactly does one run debug binaries? /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/* don't have +x set, and setting +x and running them with kdesudo results in malformed errors :/
[01:58] <downhill_> err syntax errors
[02:04] <Moktar> halow
[02:06] <jammen33> hi
[02:06] <Moktar> hoq are u?
[02:06] <Moktar> how are u?
[02:06] <jammen33> good
[02:06] <Moktar> you are from where plz?
[02:07] <jammen33> washington state usa
[02:07] <Moktar> wow it is too far away from france
[02:08] <Moktar> what os are you using?
[02:08] <jammen33> kubuntu 8.10
[02:09] <Moktar> i have ubuntu
[02:09] <Moktar> and seems cool
[02:09] <Moktar> what is your job plz?
[02:09] <jammen33> why?
[02:09] <Moktar> just asking
[02:10] <Moktar> i am "maçon" house builder
[02:10] <jammen33> im going to college and dont have a job rigth now
[02:11] <Moktar> cool
[02:11] <Moktar> how old are then?
[02:11] <jammen33> 20
[02:11] <Moktar> verry good i am 34
[02:12] <Moktar> washinton dc is a big city
[02:12] <Moktar> i   live in north est france in a small town
[02:13] <jammen33> i live in noth west usa in a medium town
[02:14] <Moktar> have you been to france befor?
[02:14] <jammen33> no
[02:14] <Moktar> ok
[02:14] <Moktar> what is your feeling about obama like president of the united states
[02:15] <jammen33> idk i think he might be ok
[02:15] <jammen33> i have to go i'l bbl
[02:15] <Moktar> ok
[02:15] <Moktar> take car
[02:23] <tweaked> How would I view all the user accounts on my comptuer?
[02:23] <EagleScreen> explore /home folder
[02:23] <EagleScreen> or use kuser
[02:25] <downhill_> or /etc/passwd
[02:26] <tweaked> Thanks guys.
[02:27] <Snoopy_Corleone> hey guys
[02:27] <Snoopy_Corleone> any idea how to corret error 1: when booting ubuntu?
[02:29] <tweaked> Is ubuntu the only OS on your Hard drive?
[02:29] <Snoopy_Corleone> nope trying to dual boot with windows
[02:30] <Snoopy_Corleone> tried doing without wubi tried with wubu
[02:30] <Snoopy_Corleone> *wubi
[02:30] <Snoopy_Corleone> even tried partitioning some space with gparted
[02:30] <Snoopy_Corleone> then tried to install again
[02:32] <Snoopy_Corleone> hell i even tried to use sgd get any sort of file on the new partition
[02:32] <Snoopy_Corleone> no luck with anything yet
[02:34] <vmg> hola
[02:34] <Snoopy_Corleone> buenos dias
[02:34] <demarco> help. wifi-radar not working. Error: Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory)
[02:39] <tweaked> Snoopy_Corleone: you have to edit the grub file.
[02:40] <Snoopy_Corleone> ok how would I go about doing that?
[02:40] <Snoopy_Corleone> i get error 1: when i boot it
[02:40] <Snoopy_Corleone> then it takes me back to a list to boot from
[02:46] <demarco> how do you access root
[02:49]  * Snoopy_Corleone sighs
[02:49] <Marfi> Hello everyone! I just installed kubuntu onto my Eee 900, and the sound doesn't work. Should I reinstall?
[02:49] <holycow> no, you should look for repos online with dirvers for the eee 900
[02:50] <Snoopy_Corleone> hey guys are there any rooms dedicated to the removal of malware?
[02:50] <Marfi> holycow, they came across with ubuntu, though
[02:51] <holycow> Snoopy_Corleone: #windows probably
[02:51] <Snoopy_Corleone> trying in there.
[02:51] <faileas> actually there's a specific distro for the eee
[02:51] <Marfi> Snoopy_Corleone, go to download.com, install AVG and adaware...and scan / remove with that
[02:51] <Snoopy_Corleone> tried
[02:51] <faileas> Snoopy_Corleone: windows channel, read the topic
[02:51] <Marfi> Snoopy_Corleone, which version?
[02:52] <Snoopy_Corleone> winctrl32 is pretty persistant
[02:52] <Snoopy_Corleone> avg w/e newest version is
[02:52] <Marfi> faileas, which version?
[02:52] <Marfi> Snoopy_Corleone, or just google the problem. thats what i always do
[02:52] <faileas> Marfi: naw, there's a mention of a load of useful apps for that on te windows channel ;p
[02:52] <Snoopy_Corleone> i never seem to have much luck with google lol
[02:52] <Snoopy_Corleone> i've tried a lot of different stuff
[02:53] <Marfi> Snoopy_Corleone, winctrl32 removal works for me. =)
[02:53] <Snoopy_Corleone> i'll try that then
[02:54] <Snoopy_Corleone> anywho
[02:54] <Snoopy_Corleone> i am still having issues booting ubuntu >.<
[03:06] <Ardarandir> what languages?
[03:06] <Ardarandir> oh, sry - wrong position...-[
[03:07] <demarco> how do you access root
[03:08] <lunar-raven> Demarco: in a command line type "sudo"
[03:08] <lunar-raven> demarco sudo command
[03:09] <lunar-raven> command being whatever you want to do as root
[03:10] <demarco> thankyou
[03:10] <lunar-raven> np
[03:12] <lemouton> rebonjour
[03:12] <lemouton> je cherche à regarder la tv avec tvtime
[03:12] <lemouton> j'ai 2 entrée composite
[03:12] <lemouton> il n'en reconnai qu'une...
[03:12] <Marfi> so i ran lspci to see if I could see my audio card on my eee 900...and im not seeing it. any ideas? it works in ubuntu
[03:13] <Nomexous> !fr
[03:13] <lemouton> ioki
[03:13] <lemouton> sorry
[03:13] <lemouton> ;-)
[03:15] <lunar-raven> !x11
[03:17] <fidji> hi, is it possible to define which console with printk setting
[03:17] <fidji> for example all the kernel log to /dev/tty8
[03:19] <Marfi> does anyone have any ideas about kubuntu + normal sound on an eeepc?
[03:25] <fidji> ça promet ;)
[03:25] <fidji> http://books.google.fr/books?id=XJStF4p9RvkC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=kernel.printk&source=web&ots=Xn4k_r9In2&sig=KHXkn7Mlm0siXvMXQ7XvV16I8gc&hl=fr&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPA41,M1
[03:25] <Marfi> i am such an idiot
[03:25] <Marfi> i disabled the sound in my bios
[03:28] <lunar-raven> lol
[03:30] <fidji> sorry not the good chanel
[03:34] <lunar-raven> how is kde4.2rc?
[03:34] <donw35> sounds
[03:34] <lunar-raven> anyone know if its good?
[03:35] <jammen33> im using kde4.2
[03:35] <lunar-raven> jammen: cool. do you like it?
[03:35] <jammen33> so far i dont have any promlems
[03:36] <lunar-raven> nice
[03:36] <jammen33> its better then 4.1
[03:39] <EagleScreen> i also use 4.2 RC1
[03:40] <lunar-raven> nice
[03:40] <lunar-raven> like it?
[03:40] <jammen33> not all the plasmoids work tho :(
[03:40] <lunar-raven> im on kde 3.5.2 right now lol
[03:40] <lunar-raven> so out of date
[03:40] <EagleScreen> KDE 4 is not mature than KDE 3
[03:41] <EagleScreen> and still KDE 4 does not have ALL functions that KDE 3 has
[03:42] <EagleScreen> KDE 4 is less mature than KDE 3, KDE4 still has small issues
[03:42] <lunar-raven> =( yeah it's a bit behind..oddly
[03:42] <lunar-raven> can you change the theme yet? I havent used it for ages
[03:42] <lunar-raven> I didnt like all the black
[03:42] <jammen33> but i still like it better
[03:42] <jammen33> yes
[03:42] <jammen33> but most of the themes are black i think
[03:43] <AhmedG> ahmed
[03:43] <AhmedG> ag
[03:43] <AhmedG> whoooooooooops
[03:43] <EagleScreen> KDE 4.1 and 4.2 have Aya theme, which is while-gray
[03:43] <EagleScreen> white-gray sorry
[03:45] <EagleScreen> look this screenshot http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21494165/instantanea2.png
[03:45] <JontheEchidna> also clean-blend, which is white-blue
[03:46] <EagleScreen> i have heared that qt 4.5 will come some graphical fixes
[03:47] <EagleScreen> i think KDE 4.2 is usable, but it is less mature and less stable than KDE 3.5.10, and has some less functions
[03:48] <SilentDis> hello.  i just got a new drive, and i would like to get some suggestions for a partition table setup.
[03:48] <EagleScreen> what are you using the drive for?
[03:48] <SilentDis> it's a large drive, 500gb.  I was thinking 2gb swap - 10gb root - rest as /home, but can anyone suggest something better?
[03:49] <SilentDis> it's a SATA drive, to replace the 2 ailing EIDEs i've currently got in my machine.
[03:49] <EagleScreen> I suggest 15 GB of root, for the future
[03:50] <SilentDis> EagleScreen: *nod* that's reasonable.  2gb swap good enough?  machine has 2gb physical ram in it.
[03:50] <jammen33> maybe a partition for common files like a music collect if you share the computer with others
[03:50] <JontheEchidna> SilentDis: yeah, 2GB swap should be more than reasonable
[03:50] <SilentDis> jammen33: actually, i've got a server box that my music resides on.
[03:50] <EagleScreen> and if you are going to use virtual machines as like as virtualbox to run another operating systems, i'd set 4 GB swap partition
[03:50] <jammen33> kk
[03:51] <EagleScreen> and the rest for home
[03:51] <Qrawl> does Dolphin crash for anyone a lot
[03:51] <jammen33> mot me
[03:51] <EagleScreen> negative
[03:51] <Qrawl> every time I download something in Firefox, for example, Dolphin crashes
[03:51] <jammen33> not*
[03:52] <SilentDis> EagleScreen: ahh, thanks for that.  i was just starting to toy with VBox.  good to know.
[03:52] <Qrawl> are you using KDE 4.2
[03:53] <SilentDis> now, once the drive warms up (it was sitting in sub-zero conditions for a while), and i get it installed, what's the easiest way to go about the switchover?  I know just copying /home to the new /home will work, should i just reinstall the OS though?
[03:53] <EagleScreen> then you will need much swap, so each operating system running in the virtual machin will eat much of RAM
[03:53] <EagleScreen> i am using 4.2
[03:55] <EagleScreen> SilentDis reinstall OS in root / partition, but you can reuse your old home partition, by moving file to the new
[03:55] <EagleScreen> mv command will conservate your file permissions
[03:56] <SilentDis> EagleScreen: yeah, that's what prompted this.  i have 2 drives in the box, one failed entirely (had / on it).  I had a 20gb partition for windows on the 2nd drive, and seeing as i've not booted windows in nearly 2 years, i wiped it and rescued my machine that way.  home has always been on hdb2
[03:56] <SilentDis> i did some SMART tests on the drives, both are rather old, and both are starting to fail tests.  time to upgrade :)
[03:57] <EagleScreen> yes
[03:57] <EagleScreen> install the new disk and keep the old hdb2 disk temporary
[03:58] <EagleScreen> then run a Live CD for instance, and move you home data in hdb2 to your new 500 GB disk
[03:58] <SilentDis> yeah, when i bought the motherboard, it was an 'upgraders' board.  EIDE and SATA interfaces, etc.
[03:59] <EagleScreen> then you know what to do
[03:59] <SilentDis> aye.  just needed some partitioning suggestions more than anything else
[04:01] <EagleScreen> i suggest: 4GB for swap; 15 GB for root /; and the rest for /home; this is if you dont want another for /boot
[04:01] <EagleScreen> a partition for /boot is not necessary
[04:02] <SilentDis> yay, useless windows software disks for a hard drive.  i always need more coasters.
[04:03] <EagleScreen> godbye
[04:04] <girevikmoto> can someone help me? I can't get a hard drive partition to mount
[04:05] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: are you getting an error or some such?
[04:05] <girevikmoto> kio_media_mounthelper "permissions denied"
[04:06] <girevikmoto> a breaker popped earlier, and when i reset it, and booted the computer... it wont mount anymore
[04:06] <girevikmoto> im the only user on this computer
[04:06] <girevikmoto> never had a problem before with it mounting
[04:06] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: hmm... can you get to a cli?
[04:06] <girevikmoto> all my other drives mount fine, after i put password in
[04:06] <girevikmoto> yes, ive got konsole open
[04:07] <asobi> amarok, why is the love button diabled?
[04:07] <SilentDis> i'd say try mounting it from there, the errors are usually a bit more telling
[04:07] <girevikmoto> what command should i be using?
[04:07] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: what's the drive's location?
[04:08] <girevikmoto>  /dev/sda5
[04:08] <jammen33> whats the mount point
[04:08] <girevikmoto>  /media/
[04:08] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: sudo mkdir /media/tempmount && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/tempmount
[04:09] <girevikmoto> i have my hdd broken into three partitions, one for the OS, one for everything else, and one for swap
[04:09] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: then, see if you can't see the files in /media/tempmount
[04:09] <girevikmoto> (i have only been using linux for 5 or so months btw)
[04:10] <girevikmoto> how do i do that?
[04:10] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: no prob.  just copy and paste that whole long string into the CLI.
[04:10] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: oh hehe, i'm ahead of myself :)  cd /media/tempmount
[04:11] <girevikmoto> heh thought i was going nuts for a second
[04:11] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: then, use ls to see if it lists anything
[04:11] <girevikmoto> thats makes more sense :)
[04:12] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: you have to be a little nuts to use linux.  you know, who would want a stable, nearly virius-proof OS? *snicker*
[04:12] <girevikmoto> it says "no such file or directory"
[04:13] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: sudo mkdir /media/tempmount && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/tempmount
[04:13] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: copy and paste that whole line into the CLI, and hit enter at the end.  it'll make the directory, and try to mount the drive
[04:14] <girevikmoto> that worked
[04:14] <girevikmoto> i can browse the file tree now
[04:15] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: ok.  rock on, the drive didn't die.  we just need it mounted somewhere you can get at it normally now.
[04:16] <girevikmoto> yeah i thought it was the drive for a moment.. untill i realized that if the drive had died, i wouldnt be typicng right now
[04:16] <girevikmoto> because the OS is on another partition of that drive
[04:16] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: first, unmount it. `cd ~` that'll get you out of that directory, and back home.  `sudo umount /dev/sda5` that'll unmount the drive
[04:18] <girevikmoto> okay
[04:18] <girevikmoto> its unmounted
[04:19] <SilentDis> have you edited a /etc/fstab file before?
[04:19] <girevikmoto> no... i tried editing fstab before i got on the irc though
[04:20] <SilentDis> lets give it a more 'permanant' home though first.  what's on that drive?
[04:20] <girevikmoto> i commented out the line for sda5, and then tried writing a new mount point for it
[04:20] <girevikmoto> on the drive? most of my music and assorted other media
[04:20] <SilentDis> hmm... can you paste in the old line for sda5 please?
[04:20] <SilentDis> just that one line, so as not to arouse the spam filters heh
[04:21] <girevikmoto>  /dev/sda5 /media/disk auto nouser,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[04:21] <SilentDis> that should work fine.  just uncomment it.
[04:22] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: you can safely delete your other entry, as well.
[04:22] <girevikmoto> gives the same error as before
[04:22] <girevikmoto> "permissions denied"
[04:22] <girevikmoto> doesnt ask for a password first either
[04:23] <SilentDis> ahhh, sorry, i misread.  go back into your /etc/fstab, and change it from `nouser` to `user` i believe.
[04:24] <girevikmoto> "[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab"
[04:24] <girevikmoto> "mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist"
[04:24] <SilentDis> hmm....  `sudo mkdir /media/disk`
[04:25] <girevikmoto> success!
[04:25] <SilentDis> are you using some special program for mounting, or just the KDE 8.10 stuff with dolphin?
[04:26] <SilentDis> girevikmoto: rockin' :)  i'd recommend giving it a more comfy 'home' though, such as /media/multimedia or the like (make the directory, then update fstab), even set it to `auto` (remove `noauto`) etc, if you use it a lot :)
[04:27] <girevikmoto> lovely, breaker popped again
[04:28] <girevikmoto> thank you for the help! partition mounts again with no problems
[04:28] <jammen33> i would use less stuff on that breaker :)
[04:29] <girevikmoto> oh.. SilentDis logged out?
[04:29] <girevikmoto> yeah, its the space heater ... im trying to figure out what outlet is not on the same breaker as my computer
[04:29] <Traveler> hey guys
[04:30] <jammen33> just over clock your computer
[04:30] <Traveler> would 8.04 be more likely to be compatible with a computer than 8.10?
[04:30] <jammen33> get more speed and heat your house
[04:30] <girevikmoto> eh.. its only for tonight.. the heat should be fixed tomorrow
[04:30] <girevikmoto> just waiting on maintainence to come back
[04:31] <girevikmoto> does anyone know how to change which directory is the home directory?
[04:31] <jammen33> Traveler: it would be better for older computers because kubuntu 8.04 uses kde 3.5.10
[04:32] <Traveler2> sorry i got logged
[04:32] <jammen33> it would be better for older computers because kubuntu 8.04 uses kde 3.5.10
[04:32] <Traveler2> my comp isn't particularly ol
[04:32] <Traveler2> *old
[04:32] <Traveler2> i just can't seem to boot 8.10 to save my life
[04:33] <jammen33> how far will it boot?
[04:33] <Traveler2> well originally i got thrown into terminal
[04:33] <Traveler2> however, now
[04:34] <girevikmoto> i hope kde 4.2.0 is a major improvement... i tried kde 4.1 and wasnt impressed
[04:34] <Traveler2> it just boots error 1: unnamed path not found
[04:34]  * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[04:34] <Traveler2> i've tried a bunch of stuff
[04:34] <Traveler2> sgd, gparted,..
[04:34] <jammen33> girevikmoto: what didnt you like about kde4.1
[04:35] <jammen33> Traveler2: i dont know
[04:35] <Traveler2> hm
[04:35] <Traveler2> i created another partition
[04:35] <Traveler2> any idea on how I can install it directly to the partition
[04:36] <jammen33> can you boot 8.10 off the live cd
[04:36] <Traveler2> no.
[04:36] <Traveler2> well correction
[04:37] <Traveler2> sometimes i get thrown into terminal
[04:37] <Traveler2> sometimes it doesn't boot at all
[04:37] <Traveler2> usually just comes up with a bunch of random errors
[04:37] <Traveler2> and scrolls more or less endlessly
[04:37] <jammen33> are they crc errors?
[04:37] <girevikmoto> mainly that it was confusing.. this was when i was transitioning from xp to kubuntu.. i had used kde3 on a livecd and liked how it was organized, kde4 is quite different
[04:38] <jammen33> yea
[04:39] <girevikmoto> at the time kde4 felt very much like what it was and is.. a work in progress
[04:39] <jammen33> kde4.2 is better then 4.1 it has much more configuration options
[04:40] <jammen33> Traveler2: are they crc errors?
[04:40] <girevikmoto> i like using bleeding edge developmental releases, but not for my main desktop
[04:46] <Traveler4> back again x.X
[04:47] <maxmahem> I've got a strange issue with kde. It's not correctly sizing my desktop. The resolution is set correctly, but the desktop is expanding beyond my screen edges (ie the pannel is off the bottom of my screen).
[04:47] <maxmahem> Any help?
[04:47] <jammen33> what version of kde are you using?
[04:47] <maxmahem> 4.2 rc1
[04:48] <Traveler4> anyway my comp is an hp nc 8430 dualcore 2.61 ghz and an ati mobile x1600 gfx card
[04:48] <Traveler4> so its not too old >.<
[04:48] <Traveler4> no one seems to be able to figure out whats wrong ..
[04:48] <jammen33> no its better than mine
[04:48] <maxmahem> It wasn't doing this untill I enabled a second x session on my other monitor (which runs at a different resolution).
[04:48] <jammen33> have you tried multiple cd or just using the same one every time
[04:48] <maxmahem> However, X seems to have the resolutions correct, as my mouse behaves correctly on the edges and everything appears right on login.
[04:49] <Traveler4> same cd.
[04:49] <Traveler4> i'm about to burn an 8.04 .
[04:49] <jammen33> maxmahem: what video card do you have?
[04:49] <maxmahem> one sec...
[04:49] <maxmahem> nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7800 GT]
[04:50] <jammen33> Traveler4: it could be that the disk did not burn right at that is causing errors
[04:50] <Traveler4> ah well i'll burn a different one
[04:51] <Traveler4> i'll write it at 16x rather then max hopefully that'll help
[04:51] <jammen33> maxmahem: you have them set up for diffrent x sessions?
[04:51] <jammen33> Traveler4: it should
[04:51] <jammen33> if the cd was the problem
[04:51] <maxmahem> yes. I don't have a windows mannager running over there right now, but it appears to be working fine.
[04:52] <jammen33> in the xorg.conf file it migth have set a virtual screen size larger than the resolution
[04:53] <maxmahem> I don't think so, but let me check...
[04:55] <maxmahem> nope no resolutions set in xorg.conf at all.
[04:56] <jammen33> ok
[04:58] <jammen33> are you usiing the nvidia prioritary drivers?
[05:00] <maxmahem> yes.
[05:08] <maxmahem> hacking things... going to reboot x and try 'em.
[05:10] <maxmahem> Well that didn't make anything worse, but it didn't fix things either.
[05:10] <maxmahem> this is vexing, I'm going to install compiz and see if its kdm falt.
[05:12] <maxmahem> something has to be wrong in kde because it doesn't happen at my login...
[05:13] <maxmahem> yeah, switching to compiz fixed it. It's definetly something wrong with kdm/kwin or something.
[05:21] <TweakedEh> After kubuntu is installed is it possable to make your swap bigger?
[05:23] <maxmahem> yes, but its a bit of an ordeal. You have to repartition you system.
[05:24] <TweakedEh> would it be easier just to reinstall?
[05:24] <TweakedEh> Would it be worth it?
[05:25] <maxmahem> To up your swap? The install does a pretty good job of partitioning it out on its own.
[05:27] <uga> heh, last time I let kubuntu do partitioning on its own, it didn't even create a home partition
[05:27] <TweakedEh> How many partitions does linux have by default?
[05:27] <uga> I don't call that "pretty good job"
[05:28] <uga> TweakedEh: depends on your distro and/or your taste
[05:28] <uga> TweakedEh: I suggest / ,  /home and swap
[05:28] <uga> some will also claim /boot
[05:28] <uga> at least if you split home you'll be safe for future reinstalls, to keep your user data and configs
[05:29] <TweakedEh> uga: So if I were to partition it my self I should have /boot, / , /home?
[05:29] <uga> yes
[05:29] <TweakedEh> and swap
[05:29] <uga> although I never use /boot
[05:29] <TweakedEh> so it's not a big deal.
[05:29] <uga> not for me at least
[05:29] <uga> some people use it for keeping their kernels there
[05:30] <uga> I don't think it makes much sense
[05:30] <TweakedEh> I have a 300GB hard drive, to be save how much should I let / have?
[05:30] <uga> some older distros alsol had a separate /tmp partition, but it was only troublesome (if it was full for some reason, the system may not boot)
[05:31] <uga> TweakedEh: no matter how much crap you throw in software, I doubt you'll go beyond 20GiB on /
[05:31] <uga> TweakedEh: maybe some games can help you go over that
[05:32] <uga> so the rest is left for swap and home
[05:32] <TweakedEh> uga: Alright, I'm not too interested in games. Thanks for you help, Time to reinstall =]
[05:32] <PyleDriver> i need help with my wireless. i have an intel 3945 wireless card, and it only work occassionally. It works in windows, and a belkin card works fine in kubuntu.
[05:33] <uga> TweakedEh: I've got 2-3 versions of the kde desktop installed in /, all sort of soft, including developer soft, bug no games. After a few years I haven't gone above that
[05:33] <uga> ouch
[05:33] <dazzzzer> hello
[05:34] <dazzzzer> anyone around?
[05:35] <maxmahem> nobody here but us chickens.
[05:35] <dazzzzer> i8042.nomux=1
[05:41] <PyleDriver> Any ideas on the wireless problem?
[05:50] <PyleDriver> and i just realized i have no sound
[06:14] <dazzzzer> i8042.nomux=1
[06:24] <Rudd-O> http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/linuxvideoconverter
[06:26] <alan> hi
[06:27] <alan> Does someone manage to install Firefox on kubuntu ???
[06:29] <ahwhat> yes, using Adept
[06:30] <alan> ?
[06:30] <alan> how
[06:37] <lunar-raven> mooo
[06:44] <syockit> Where's the cafe channel for off-topic chat again? I want to ask things about openSUSE and other distros
[06:44] <lunar-raven> !cafe
[06:44] <lunar-raven> lol
[06:44] <lunar-raven> thought it was worth a try
[06:44] <faileas> syockit: #defocus or #linux i suppose
[06:46] <eagles0513875> !info cafe | lunar-raven
[06:47] <lunar-raven> :P
[06:52] <syockit> If you have experience in openSUSE, can you tell about yast and whether delta-rpm is used for all packages or not?
[06:55] <faileas> syockit: try the opensuse channel
[06:56] <syockit> faileas: it's quiet over there. What time is it in the USA?
[06:57] <faileas> i'm not in the USA
[06:57] <lunar-raven> I am
[06:57] <lunar-raven> in washington
[06:57] <faileas> (and yast is a flaming pile of.... its the main reason i stopposed using opensuse ;))
[06:57] <lunar-raven> and it's almost 11 pm
[06:58] <lunar-raven> yast rocks
[06:58] <lunar-raven> it's sluggish and heavy
[06:58] <lunar-raven> but helpful
[06:58] <faileas> lunar-raven: i was using smart at the time
[06:58] <syockit> Uh oh. I may not like it sluggish and heavy
[06:58]  * faileas dosen't see the point of something sluggish and heavy for basic maintainance of packages
[06:58] <lunar-raven> heh
[06:58] <lunar-raven> well yes, for package management I agree
[06:59] <faileas> oh, and the version of suse i was on was 10.1 ;p
[06:59] <lunar-raven> but yast has other uses if ciyrse
[06:59] <faileas> (broken yast ;p)
[06:59] <lunar-raven> of course*
[06:59] <syockit> Though I still don't know how to properly use adept
[06:59] <lunar-raven> same here faileas..i've heard it's speed has improved greatly since
[06:59] <faileas> syockit: i don't use adept, i stick to apt ;p
[06:59] <syockit> cool
[07:00] <faileas> oldskoolstyle ;)
[07:00] <lunar-raven> I like adept :P..but apt is cool for just getting it done fast
[07:00] <faileas> (ironically i started using apt with mandriva... )
[07:00] <faileas> cause i couldn't stand... (you guessed it) the package manager it came with
[07:00] <syockit> It's just  that I keep forgetting the parameters for it, having to crank the man page each time really bugs me
[07:00] <hagabaka> adept notifier is kind of helpful, but usually when I see there are packages I just update with aptitude
[07:00] <lunar-raven> mandriva..yeah I don't like their package manager either.
[07:01] <faileas> syockit: its not that hard
[07:01] <hagabaka> i don't like with adept that it asks you to enter root password before opening, even if you just want to browse packages
[07:02] <syockit> Maybe I ought to print them and post it somewhere on the wall
[07:02] <syockit> Strange that I've actually used it many times, but they fail to reside in my memory
[07:03] <lunar-raven> oo updated kubuntu..must reboot
[07:03] <lunar-raven> brb
[07:03] <faileas> sudo apt-get update to check for updates, sudo apt-get upgrade to upgrade. apt-cache search to look for a package, apt-get install to update ;)
[07:04] <syockit> Okay, I think I'm giving up the idea of migrating. Most packages don't have deltas it seems.
[07:10] <lunar-raven> what would be the easiest way to upgrade from hardy to Intrepid
[07:11] <lunar-raven> !intrepid
[07:11] <Daviey> lunar-raven: $ sudo do-release-upgrade , is one way
[07:12] <lunar-raven> I actually just did that..but i dont think it upgraded to intrepid. I was using a way old version of kubuntu
[07:12] <lunar-raven> how do i check what version im using?
[07:12] <lunar-raven> haha
[07:13] <lunar-raven> yeah..it upgraded to hardy
[07:13] <lunar-raven> and when I run the command again, it says there is no new version
[07:36] <syockit> lunar-raven: hmm. How do you know it's a way old? GUI?
[07:37] <syockit> lunar-raven: or if you migrated from KDE 3.5, you probably have to relogin with different session
[07:54] <gofi> #dba
[08:12] <szrhawaii> does anyone know of a comparable application or the source of a repo i can use to get bluej
[08:40] <noaXess> hi all.. and good morning
[08:41] <noaXess> is there any information, that in kde4.2 are nvidia graficcards better supported? in 4.1.4 i have always same problems, blinking clock, taskbar entries and diffrent other strange grafical problems..
[08:59] <dmmainou> Hi I'm trying to install my nic card and the instructions I'm following say to "apt-get install linux-source" but I have no internet.... any ideas how to get the package w/o internet.
[09:02] <dmmainou> hello?
[09:02] <syockit> dmmainou: wait, why?
[09:02] <syockit> dmmainou: It's not bundled with the installation?
[09:03] <dmmainou> hi syockit .... thiese are the instructions I'm following http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Realtek_8168
[09:04] <syockit> Do you have another media? like USB drive or something
[09:04] <dmmainou> yes
[09:05] <syockit> it requires some compiling, and that also requires installation of more tools.
[09:06] <dmmainou> It's ok I have the recepie... I hope I can follow it
[09:07] <dmmainou> It is the integrated nic card... no option unless I buy something else.
[09:08] <syockit> I'm checking if it's already in the kernel or not
[09:08] <syockit> Which version of Kubuntu?
[09:08] <dmmainou> 7.1
[09:08] <dmmainou> It's my first linux mce...
[09:10] <syockit> I think that's a 7.10. So it's another distro...
[09:10] <syockit> You'd probably have to download a number of packages to be able to compile
[09:10] <dmmainou> upon uname -a 2.6.22-14
[09:11] <syockit> Okay, I'll try to go through this step by step
[09:11] <dmmainou> Mate thanks so much....
[09:12] <syockit> Which recipe are you following? The one you gave before?
[09:12] <dmmainou> by the way... I'm connecting through my laptop running k 8.1 if that helps (2 months ago decided to leave vista and havent turned back since)
[09:12] <dmmainou> yes that one...
[09:15] <noaXess> does anybody now a tool to diff/merge files/dirs over ftp?
[09:15] <noaXess> tool for kde?
[09:15] <noaXess> there was kdiff3, but it's not in the repos now..
[09:20] <syockit> dmmainou: by the way, have you tried if you can execute make or not  in that computer?
[09:21] <dmmainou> yes, I have done every step succesfully ntill the apt-get
[09:21] <syockit> dmmainou: Nice, don't have to bother with tools anymore
[09:23] <dmmainou> I trust that that meant something good. I'm an accountant but discovered this thing called ubuntu  and here I am learning a Very nice hobby.
[09:24] <syockit> dmmainou: You need to download linux-source from a repository
[09:25] <dmmainou> ok... how do I do that?
[09:25] <syockit> dmmainou: first, select a location from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[09:27] <syockit> dmmainou: Then go into pool/main/l
[09:27] <syockit> dmmainou: pool/main/l/linux-sources-2.6.22
[09:29] <syockit> if you managed to get there, download linux-sources-2.6.22_2.6.22-14.46_all.deb
[09:30] <syockit> copy it to your usb drive, and copy it to your mce
[09:30] <syockit> Then sudo dpkg -i the file
[09:30] <dmmainou> ok I'm there ... which files
[09:30] <noaXess> !info kdiff3
[09:32] <dmmainou> ok downloading....
[09:34] <noaXess> why is kdiff3 not in intrepid? it is a really good diff/merge tool.. also over ftp
[09:36] <syockit> noaXess: reason is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdiff3/+bug/260326 . Get it here: https://launchpad.net/~tsaarni/+archive
[09:37] <syockit> It's even got the latest
[09:37] <noaXess> syockit: aha.. thanks.. :)
[09:37] <noaXess> nice
[09:37] <noaXess> love
[09:40] <dmmainou> syockit: done
[09:40] <syockit> dmmainou: You've dpkg -i it?
[09:41] <dmmainou> said something about setting up linux....
[09:41] <dmmainou> yes
[09:41] <syockit> Okay, you can continue the steps in the guide
[09:42] <dmmainou> mate I owe you a beer.... anywhere Sydney, Oz
[09:42] <syockit> oh wait, about the patch...
[09:42] <dmmainou> yes...
[09:42] <syockit> dmmainou: too bad I don't drink
[09:42] <syockit> It'd be nice if you prepare the patch beforehand and copy it to the mce
[09:43] <dmmainou> we'll you get my gratitude.
[09:43] <dmmainou> not exactly sure what you mean.
[09:45] <syockit> well, along the steps, there's this 'patch < r8168.diff'
[09:45] <syockit> you'd need to the file out if you don't have it already
[09:46] <syockit> it's not that difficult anyway without the patch. You just need to edit the files
[09:47] <syockit> How far have you got?
[09:47] <dmmainou> ok I tried to follow the next step "apt-get linux-source"
[09:48] <dmmainou> invalid operation
[09:48] <dmmainou> but I presume we already did that right?
[09:49] <dmmainou> sorry mate first time compiling...
[09:49] <syockit> Yup, can skip apt-get
[09:49] <syockit> Go from cd /usr/src
[09:51] <dmmainou> within /usr/src there are two files 2 headers 1 source
[09:53] <dmmainou> I suppose that the cd... and the tar... are two different steps?
[09:53] <dmmainou> when I tar it says can not open not such file
[09:54] <dmmainou> should I give the whole directory?
[09:54] <dmmainou> yes that was it... the screen is going mad
[09:55] <dmmainou> forgot to sudo... repeated the step...
[09:55] <syockit> ?
[09:57] <dmmainou> ok I have been succesful until where it says "make scripts prepare"
[09:59] <syockit> also needs sudo
[09:59] <dmmainou> ok it came out with errors.
[09:59] <dmmainou> long list
[10:01] <syockit> I'd love to have you paste bin that, but that'd take a long time
[10:02] <syockit> ah, run it again. this time should be shorter
[10:02] <dmmainou> same thing.
[10:03] <syockit> What kindof message?
[10:03] <syockit> keywords
[10:05] <dmmainou> scripts/basic/fixdep.c: (a number): then a warning or error e.g.incompatible implicit declaration....
[10:05] <syockit> errors are important. what kind of errors are there?
[10:06] <dmmainou> can I email the script to you I pasted it to kate...
[10:09] <syockit> please use pastebin
[10:10] <dmmainou> sorry what is pastebin?
[10:10] <syockit> save it to file, bring to the net computer, copy the contents to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <dmmainou> done I just made a mistake in my login dmainou rather than dmmainou
[10:13] <heinrich> Nicolae, de unde esti?
[10:13] <Eutychus> hello. everything about kubuntu is working great except i dont know how to make the laptop search for wireless connections.  is there something that needs to be turned on or downloaded in order to get the nic card to connect to the wireless router?
[10:15] <syockit> dmmainou: please paste the url here
[10:16] <dmmainou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/107683/
[10:17] <syockit> All right I can pretty much guess what's missing
[10:17] <dmmainou> some other packages...
[10:18] <jussi01> Eutychus: do you know which wireless card you have?
[10:19] <jussi01> Eutychus: also, is the wireless card listed when you click on the network icon in the system tray?
[10:19] <surfjunky> hi all
[10:20] <surfjunky> i have really big problems with kubuntu since kde 4.x
[10:20] <surfjunky> with backingstore = .true.
[10:20] <surfjunky> there are severall threads in the forums but ... hmm actually the problem is not solved
[10:20] <surfjunky> anybody interested ... ?
[10:21] <Eutychus> jussi01 sorry, back... wlan0 is listed but not by name. it is a nic card. i can reboot the computer and go into the bios to find out what the exact card is,.
[10:21] <syockit> dmmainou: Can you copy the output of 'dpkg --get-selections' to pastebin?
[10:22] <jussi01> Eutychus: no need for that
[10:22] <jussi01> Eutychus: if you click networkmanager - new connection - wlan0 does it have the networks?
[10:22] <dmmainou> yes give me a sec
[10:23] <robin0800> surfjunky: believe backingstore needs to be disabled for nvidia driver wiorks with ati driver?
[10:24] <dmmainou> actually the first time I did it it gave me errors but the second time I did it with sudo and it just returned the prompt.
[10:24] <surfjunky> there are also some problem with ati reported on the internet however as you have mentioned mostly linked to nvidia driver i tried the latest one 180.22 the problem remain persistent ...
[10:24]  * fidji ne joue plus au Go
[10:24] <surfjunky> the most funniest solution you can find for this big and severe BUG is that you have to turn of backingstore which is the final solution
[10:25] <surfjunky> however does not work for scientists since we rely on this feature
[10:25] <Eutychus> jussi01: network settings in system settings?
[10:25] <syockit> dmmainou: you mean the make command?
[10:25] <jussi01> Eutychus: no, the tray icon
[10:25] <syockit> dmmainou: or dpkg?
[10:25] <dmmainou> dpkg....
[10:26] <robin0800> surfjunky: yes ati  r3xx hardware still not supported by restricted drivers
[10:26] <Eutychus> jussi01:  k.  when i click it all the fields in the new connection are blank.
[10:26] <dmmainou> gave some erros... but tried again with sudo and gave back the prompt...
[10:26] <jussi01> Eutychus: ok, please go to terminal and do: lspci
[10:27] <jussi01> then find the name of the wireless card
[10:27] <surfjunky> robin0800: the funny think it is in certain forums moved to a Xserver problem however GNOME works fine with NVIDIA + Backingstore so it is most likely linked to kwin
[10:27] <surfjunky> i wonder why the developers of kde or kubuntu think it is a minor problem
[10:29] <Eutychus> jussi01:  k
[10:30] <robin0800> surfjunky: I think the tight deadlines mean that difficult problems are sidelined to concentrate on the release
[10:30] <syockit> dmmainou: by the way, the second dpkg (with --get-selections), have you got it?
[10:30] <surfjunky> hmm i see
[10:30] <surfjunky> actually i must run now gnome + 4.x
[10:30] <dmmainou> no...its no longer on the pipe...
[10:31] <surfjunky> using ubuntu ... ahh i got stuck in this system configuration problem ... i cannot work anymore i am just configuring my OS since the last 6 weeks ...
[10:31] <dmmainou> do you want me to run it again?
[10:31] <syockit> dmmainou: on the pipe? I mean, what's the output? Or maybe do it this way...
[10:31] <Eutychus> jussi01: k.  lots of bash code, and now the prompt.
[10:32] <jussi01> Eutychus: could you paste it into a pastebin?
[10:32] <robin0800> surfjunky: the fix to the r3xx hardware problem was to stop hardware manager offering the restricted driver!
[10:32] <jussi01> !paste | Eutychus
[10:32] <dmmainou> if I scroll up it is no longer there...
[10:32] <syockit> dmmainou: cd ~; dpkg --get-selections > installedPackage.lst; kate installedPackage.lst
[10:32] <surfjunky> i see ... with linux it is never boring ... thanks for conversation ...
[10:32] <suisse_indi> Hello. Who could help with a wifi / firefox problem?
[10:33] <jussi01> !ask | suisse_indi
[10:33] <syockit> dmmainou: if you see lots of package names with installed on the right, copy installedPackage.lst over to pastebin
[10:35] <suisse_indi> connection to a wifi network is established. firefox displays: can not connect to server. whats wrong? thanks for your help
[10:36] <Eutychus> jussi01 k. it will take a moment i have to plug the laptop into the router with another computer's cable.
[10:37] <jussi01> suisse_indi: is firefox in offline mode, is the wifi network online?
[10:37] <robin0800> suisse_indi: does the connection say activated in the taskbar
[10:37] <jussi01> suisse_indi: have you tried other webpages?
[10:37] <suisse_indi> network is online. firefox is online
[10:37] <suisse_indi> konquerer is the same
[10:38] <dmmainou> cd ~; dpkg --get-selections > inno packages found matching installedPackage.lst
[10:38] <jussi01> suisse_indi: open a terminal and do: ping google.com
[10:38] <dmmainou> sorry
[10:38] <dmmainou> no packages found matching installedPackage.lst
[10:38] <dmmainou> sorry again bad spelling.
[10:40] <syockit> dmmainou: um, did you miss the <?
[10:40] <syockit> Oh sorry
[10:40] <deborah> jussi01 hello. this is eutychus on the laptop.
[10:40] <syockit> dmmainou: it should be >
[10:40] <jussi01> deborah: :)
[10:40] <syockit> So I repeat again
[10:40] <deborah> !paste
[10:41] <syockit> cd ~; dpkg --get-selections > installedPackage.lst; kate installedPackage.lst
[10:42] <dmmainou> http://paste.ubuntu.com/107695/
[10:43] <dmmainou> no I missed a :
[10:43] <dmmainou> ;
[10:48] <deborah> jussi01 sorry this has taken so long. i put (deborah or eutychus) as the name, in text ,,and pasted the code. and hit enter. i hope i did it right.
[10:49] <jussi01> deborah: now give the url to me ;)
[10:49] <syockit> dmmainou: this time you'd need libc6-dev and linux-libc-dev
[10:49] <deborah> url? :(
[10:49] <dmmainou> ok Imin the page ...
[10:50] <syockit> dmmainou: you can get it from where you got linux-sources deb. By the way, libc6 is under /libc folder, not /l
[10:50] <deborah> jussi01 http://paste.ubuntu.com/107697/
[10:50] <syockit> dmmainou: and linux-libc-dev is under /l
[10:51] <dmmainou> I pressume that 2.6.22.14.46 just like last time...
[10:51] <deborah> sorry the url was whited out because a went to an all black theme that doesnt work well with ff.
[10:51] <jussi01> deborah: have you installed the restricted drivers for that card (kmenu, system, hardware drivers)
[10:52] <deborah> jussi01: i dont think so.
[10:52] <jussi01> deborah: that would help
[10:52] <deborah> jussi01 how do i do that?
[10:53] <jussi01> deborah: go to the kmenu, system, hardware drivers...  ;)
[10:55] <syockit> dmmainou: yup
[10:55] <dmmainou> looking for libc6 under /pub/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/ no luck...
[10:55] <syockit> hmmm
[10:55] <syockit> btw need to confirm version as well
[10:57] <syockit> sorry it's in glibc under g
[10:57] <deborah> jussi01 k. i activated the two drivers listed.
[10:57] <syockit> By the way, you can find them at packages.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <jussi01> deborah: does it work now?
[10:57] <syockit> but wait, need to confirm versions
[10:58] <Eutychus> jussi01 no,  it reads: no carrier
[10:59] <Gerrit> Hi, I can't find the Settings -> Configure -> ... option to change the treshhold for "monitor for silence" in Konsole 2.1 (KDE 4.1.3). Where can I change this treshhold?
[10:59] <jussi01> Eutychus: it might need the service to be restarted, but I cant remember which one. easiest just to do a full pc restart
[10:59] <Eutychus> jussi01:  k rebooting laptop
[11:00] <syockit> dmmainou: please do 'dpkg-query -s libc6 | grep Version'
[11:01] <dmmainou> it just said that "this package includes shared versions of the standard c library
[11:02] <syockit> ?
[11:02] <dmmainou> I installed 7.1  i386
[11:02] <dmmainou> yes thats it
[11:02] <syockit> dmmainou: was Version with large V?
[11:02] <Gerrit> How do I change the treshhold for the "Monitor for silence" option in Konsole 2.1 (KDE 4.1.3)? The docs say "By default, after 10 seconds of inactivity, an info icon will appear on the session's tab." -- how do I increase this period?
[11:03] <dmmainou> no 2.6.1-1ubuntu9
[11:03] <Eutychus> jussi01:  still no carrier
[11:04] <syockit> dmmainou: okay, download the appropriate libc6-dev dev from /g/glibc
[11:04] <jussi01> Eutychus: so when you go to the network manager icon, new connection, wlan0, no networks appear in the dialogue?
[11:05] <Eutychus> jussi01:  correct, all fields are blank.
[11:05] <jussi01> Eutychus: and you are sure there are wireless networks in range?
[11:06] <syockit> dmmainou: hmm, there're two types it seems. one with cpu on the end and one after the word dev.
[11:06] <Eutychus> jussi01:  i am right next to the router
[11:06] <syockit> dmmainou: Get this one 	libc6-dev_2.6.1-1ubuntu9_i386.deb
[11:07] <syockit> dmmainou: and afterwards, dpkg -i the two debs you downloaded
[11:08] <jussi01> Eutychus: not sure where to go from here atm. sorry
[11:10] <Eutychus> np.
[11:10] <syockit> Eutychus: no eth0?
[11:10] <syockit> Eutychus: sorry, was wireless eh
[11:11] <syockit> since wlan0 is there, I suppose the wifi card is working
[11:12] <syockit> the router is not stealth or something?
[11:12] <Eutychus> syockit: yes, eth0 works but the wlan0 wont read anything.
[11:12] <porta_ss> hello world
[11:12] <Eutychus> syockit: router is secured (it needs a password), but it is broadcasting to the whole block.
[11:13] <porta_ss> my kubuntu seems to block each time I start it
[11:13] <porta_ss> no mouse moovement, nosting
[11:13] <porta_ss> nothing*
[11:13] <porta_ss> why,why,why?
[11:13] <dmmainou> I've got libc6 the other one can't find it under l
[11:13] <syockit> Eutychus: how about manually entering the ESSID?
[11:14] <porta_ss> not even ctrl+alt+backspace seems to work
[11:14] <porta_ss> nothing
[11:14] <syockit> dmmainou: you mean linux-libc-dev? wait...
[11:14] <porta_ss> what a nasty system
[11:14] <dmmainou> yes
[11:15] <Eutychus> syockit:  i am not sure what an essid means. i am smart enough to be dangerous, but not smart enough to make a living at it. :)
[11:15] <dmmainou> sorry I have 1 file libc6 but not the other
[11:15] <syockit> dmmainou: actually it's in the linux-source directory you went for the first deb
[11:16] <Eutychus> syockit:  also this is a friends laptop. when she uses it she will mostly be using it at coffee shops, so the wireless sniffer needs to be able to work.
[11:16] <syockit> Eutychus: hmm. You mean, the broadcast is received on other computers, but not on her Kubuntu?
[11:16] <Eutychus> yes.
[11:17] <Eutychus> syockit: yes. the laptop is dual boot with vista, and it works for vista
[11:18] <dmmainou> Ok I have them in the machine... can you pls help me with the grep
[11:19] <dmmainou> I suppose first I have to tar them...
[11:19] <syockit> dmmainou: what grep?
[11:20] <syockit> Eutychus: need specs on wifi type
[11:21] <syockit> Eutychus: I mean the wifi interface on the laptop
[11:21] <dmmainou> sorry figured it myself...
[11:21]  * ibrar_away is away: Gone away for now
[11:22] <Eutychus> syockit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/107697/
[11:24] <syockit> Eutychus: if it's kubuntu 8.10, it might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218763
[11:25] <dmmainou> ok make scripts prepare worked
[11:26] <dmmainou> now the ptch command?
[11:26] <syockit> alright now edit drivers/net/r8169.c
[11:26] <szer0> hey i this problem Ubuntu 8.10 every now and again X crashes and all that shows in the log is this http://pastebin.ca/1314554 Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[11:26] <dmmainou> with nano?
[11:26] <syockit> dmmainou: sudo kate drivers/net/r8169.c
[11:27] <syockit> dmmainou: nano also possible. you probably need sudo
[11:27] <syockit> dmmainou: If you know vim, it's better :)
[11:27] <syockit> dmmainou: but with kate, you can just ctrl-f it
[11:28] <dmmainou> vim is still a challenge... opened kate ....
[11:28] <dmmainou> what do I look for.
[11:28] <syockit> 0x8168
[11:28] <dmmainou> found it
[11:28] <syockit> As you can see, the patch that is shown in that page says that a certain line has been removed, replaced with another line
[11:29] <syockit> In patch files, the minus (- on the beginning of the line) represents what is removed, while plus shows what is added
[11:29] <dmmainou> sorry I want to get this right... can you explain further
[11:29] <syockit> dmmainou: so comment out that line by inserting // on the beginning
[11:30] <syockit> now it should become //{ PCI_DEVICE(PCI_VENDOR_ID_REALTEK,	0x8168) something something
[11:30] <dmmainou> ok
[11:31] <syockit> dmmainou: and continue from make M=`pwd` stuff
[11:31] <dmmainou> save after that?
[11:31] <syockit> dmmainou: I mean the step "Build network modules"
[11:32] <syockit> dmmainou: oh yes. sorry forgot that
[11:32] <syockit> dmmainou: save first, then follow instructions after the patch
[11:32] <syockit> dmmainou: all of them require sudo
[11:33] <Eutychus> syockit: i need to get ready for class. thank you for your help... you too juss1. i will try again tonight. thanx
[11:33] <syockit> dmmainou: after finishing modprobe, test the network.
[11:34] <syockit> dmmainou: wishing you luck!
[11:34] <dmmainou> tanks mate... already had a fight with the mrs about being on the pc again... but I wouldn't figured out myself.
[11:35] <faileas> dmmainou: if you need an easy CLI text editor, try nano ;)
[11:36] <syockit> faileas: I forgot nano has Where is
[11:36] <faileas> ;)
[11:36] <faileas> nano is awesome. second best cli text editor i've used
[11:36] <dmmainou> kate did it this time...
[11:36] <dmmainou> its compiling....
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> nano can be a bit irritating due to its habit of word-wrapping when you don't want it to.
[11:37] <syockit> yup, but for such simple task, kate's loading time reduces productivity
[11:37] <syockit> SlimeyPete: how you'd get that to happen?
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> syockit: happens by default
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> if you open a file which includes a line which is wider than the terminal, and then you try to edit that line, nano "helpfully" wraps it
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> thus breaking shell-scripts
[11:40] <syockit> strange it doesn't happen here. Maybe it was a fixed bug
[11:41] <syockit> ah, i see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nano/+bug/39866 problem with root user
[11:41] <dmmainou> ok followed the recepie to the last step
[11:42] <dmmainou> how do i know if it worked?
[11:43] <syockit> dmmainou: You mean you finished modprobe?
[11:43] <syockit> dmmainou: then let's see....
[11:43] <syockit> dmmainou: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:44] <syockit> plug in the network cable, see if it automatically detects
[11:44] <dmmainou> done
[11:44] <syockit> if it doesn't, may need to restart
[11:45] <dmmainou> restarting now
[11:45] <|acm|_> hi leute. wollte mal fragen ob es unter (k)ubuntu eine moeglichkeit automatisiert module die nicht gebraucht werden zu entfernen/entladen. nicht der geschw. wegen, sondern weil ich wenig ram habe.
[11:46] <syockit> blimers, I have the premonition that it won't work... but let's hope!
[11:46] <|acm|_> moeglichkeit gibt natuerlich
[11:46] <syockit> I only understood eine, means "one" right?
[11:46] <|acm|_> oh english, sry
[11:46] <|acm|_> syockit: right :)
[11:46] <syockit> and maybe "Das war ein Befehl!"
[11:48] <dmmainou> Noooooo!  didn't work
[11:48] <|acm|_> well, is it possible to remove unneeded modules automatically. it would be nice because I only have less ram.
[11:49] <Gerrit> How do I change the treshhold for the "Monitor for silence" option in Konsole 2.1 (KDE 4.1.3)? The docs say "By default, after 10 seconds of inactivity, an info icon will appear on the session's tab." -- how do I increase this period?
[11:49] <dmmainou> sudo modprobe r8168  just gives the prompt is that correct...
[11:49] <|acm|_> the simplest way would be using xfce or another small desktop env.
[11:49] <syockit> dmmainou: yup
[11:50] <syockit> modinfo drivers/net/r8169.ko
[11:50] <syockit> sorry, mistake
[11:51] <dmmainou> ok what do I read from here.
[11:51] <syockit> dmmainou: can you do modinfo /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/drivers/net/r8169.k again?
[11:52] <dmmainou> yes didn't work just with k in the end but did with ko
[11:53] <dmmainou> I think there is an entry for 8169 that shouldn't be there....
[11:53] <syockit> And it didn't have the pci:v000010ECd00008168sv alias?
[11:53] <dmmainou> no...
[11:55] <syockit> arr, I'm confused with that 8168/8169 fiasco
[11:56] <syockit> By the way, does that computer have a history of windows?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:57] <syockit> yo yo ma
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> holla
[11:59] <dmmainou> no ... brand new box.... Asus P5n7A-vm
[11:59] <dmmainou> seems to work fine with 8.1 but linuxmce runs 7.1
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> !linuxmce
[12:03] <syockit> dmmainou: try lurking #linuxmce . In the meantime, we still can figure out what problems the network card have
[12:05] <syockit> dmmainou: I might even suggest upgrading the kernel too.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> dmmainou: its not an official release so its not supported here
[12:07] <syockit> Or turn newer Kubuntu into an MCE
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> or just install medibuntu then install xbmc and you're golden
[12:09] <dmmainou> yeah ... may try something like that....
[12:09] <Malic> !de
[12:09] <dmmainou> what about mythbuntu?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> something supported you mean
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !mythbuntu
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> looks like it
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> its weird but fluxbuntu isnt official
[12:10] <dmmainou> ok... I want to be able to record tv, store and see my movies AND have asterisk in the same box... thats it.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> and its really annoying cos it rocks
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> dmmainou: you can store and share movies with any distro, use samba
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> !info asterisk
[12:12] <dmmainou> mmmm yes but I want something more idiot friendly.... I'd been using trixbox but it crashes once a week in  my pIII therefore the upgrade...
[12:12] <syockit> dmmainou: go with 810 alpha then
[12:13] <syockit> http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE-0810_alpha1
[12:13] <dmmainou> Ok... I'm going on annual leave in a couple of weeks time. they may have a Beta version by then...
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> dmmainou: that why all my systems are linux based
[12:13] <syockit> including your toaster?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> syockit: they did install snmp to a toaster once
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> with toasting stats
[12:15] <dmmainou> guys thank you very much .... I'm dissapointed about the effort but happy to have kind people willing to help. Iwill be up to scratch one day to help like that...
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> its called a community for a reason :)
[12:17] <dmmainou> oh I've been in some communities that are a bit more agressive.
[12:17] <syockit> when I was in windows, I had problem looking for a helpful community
[12:18] <dmmainou> Windows.... never again... at work cause they force me.
[12:18] <dmmainou> guys I'm going to bed now.
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> dmmainou: im the same, i left windows on my own systems a long time ago as the OS doesnt give me anything that linux cant
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> its a tool for the job to me
[12:39] <Eutychus> jussi01 i reinstalled and rebooted and it worked. ... thanx
[12:46] <amerigo> !openoffice
[12:48] <amerigo> how can i import font times new roman?
[12:49] <Dr_willis> import?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: times is a standard font
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !font
[12:58]  * ibrar_away is away: Gone away for now
[12:59] <JackWinter> where do i tel kubuntu 8.10 to use software rendering instead of hardware ?
[12:59]  * ibrar is back.
[12:59] <zer0o> hi guys
[12:59] <zer0o> how can i make and OS X application work on linux?
[12:59] <zer0o> is there a way?
[13:01] <JackWinter> zer0o: there is a way but i don't know if i'm allowed to talk about it here.  it involves running osx under vmware, and works mostly.  sound missing and no acc video, but ok for the occasional app
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: what does the app do, maybe there is a native equivelant
[13:02] <JackWinter> zer0o: search the insanelymac.com forum for more information
[13:03] <amerigo> Action: I can't find in my open office
[13:04] <zer0o> alright the thing is me and a friend of mine have to work on an event scheduler and it has to be the same but, he has a mac and i run linux
[13:04] <zer0o> how do i solve that?
[13:04] <Dr_willis> zer0o,  use java :) is one way
[13:04] <zer0o> Dr_willis: sorry? :D
[13:05] <Dr_willis> python, perl, so on..
[13:05] <zer0o> dunno watcha talking about Dr
[13:05] <Dr_willis> actually i recall there being somthignm to do with the windowmaker/gnustep and stuff working  with Os-X some how.. or being sort of 'compatiable/portable'
[13:06] <zer0o> still speaking arab to me :D i dont understand what ur sayin sorry :D
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: he may have to use a different app, or you wil have to buy a mac
[13:07] <Dr_willis> USE  the java programing language
[13:07] <Dr_willis> if you want to make a program that runs on both.. is one solution
[13:07] <StR|Sangreal> there may exist mac application that supports the same formats...
[13:08] <zer0o> Dr_willis: what im trying to tell is that ivegot no idea of how to do that
[13:09] <Dr_willis> zer0o,  youve really not told us much on what you are trying to do actually eitehr...      'work on and event scheduler' you mean write one? or what exactly?
[13:10] <StR|Sangreal> if you want to share your schedules you can do that via google calendar ;)
[13:11] <zer0o> Dr_willis: oh im sorry ur right, i meant i need to download a database just to keep some events organized
[13:11] <zer0o> ivegotta do it with a friend of mine but he's got a mac and i run linux
[13:11] <zer0o> got it now?
[13:12] <StR|Sangreal> and which format do you use?
[13:12] <zer0o> hardy
[13:13] <coky> any1 using epson lx 800?
[13:13] <coky> how to get the driver?
[13:13] <Dr_willis> coky,  check cups.org to see how well that printer is supported?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> coky: http://forums.linux-foundation.org/read.php?26,1850
[13:14] <Dr_willis> coky,  for some printers there may be some cups support files witht eh drivers not installed by default.. I had a old printer that i had to rember t install the right packages for it.
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> coky: Use IBM ProPrinter II driver seems to be ok
[13:15] <coky> ok im trying
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> coky: you could check the hcl for compatibility next time before you buy to save heartache
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | coky
[13:28] <micettonero> hi
[13:29] <micettonero> i'm experiencing a problem with kopete on kde 4.2 rc
[13:29] <micettonero> the windows live messenger protocol doesn't work
[13:29] <micettonero> it gives me: cannot connect with the instant messanging server or peers
[13:30] <micettonero> any hint?
[13:30] <zer0o> alright can somebody suggest a good event organizer just for linux?
[13:31]  * Dr_willis isent even clear what an 'event' oorganizer is.. and how i differes from say a 'pim' type app.
[13:32] <zer0o> whatz a pim type app ?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> micettonero: try using http transport
[13:33] <Dr_willis> !find pim
[13:33] <Dr_willis> personanal Information manager
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> micettonero: its the msn protocol, sometimes it needs it
[13:33] <Dr_willis>  'ie: a little calander. :)
[13:33] <Dr_willis> doctor appoint on Monday... pick up laundry on thuisday
[13:34] <Dr_willis> kdepim - Personal Information Management apps from the official KDE release
[13:34] <zer0o> Dr_willis: not looking for that, im organizing events like concerts and i need an event-organizer an event-manager something i can put contacts dates numbers info... got it?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> sounds liek a calander to me...
[13:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:37] <zer0o> Dr_willis: alright lets check this kdepim out, how do i get it? is not in my repos so i shall do something like "apt-get install" WHAT?
[13:38] <Dr_willis> !info kdepim
[13:38] <Dr_willis> its in the MAIN repository.. so  somthing is weid if its not in yours...
[13:39] <Dr_willis> note the name was 'kdepim'  install that
[13:39] <cypr1nus> hi, i've got problem with upgrading nvidia drivers. when i upgraded nvidia-glx to 180.11 version using apt-get, i can't startx, due to problem: nvidia driver component has version 177.82, but nvidia kernel module has version 180.11. How can i figure it out?
[13:40] <cypr1nus> i can't find any package responsile for that
[13:44] <khaije1> when i rip DVDs using kpcopy it goes quickly then pauses at %95 completed for hours
[13:44] <khaije1> has anyone else had this problem or know how to fix it?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> cypr1nus: i'd uninstall all the nvidia drivers and fix the x server back to failsafe then reinstall the driver from scratch
[13:45] <bazhang> khaije1, I tend to use handbrake
[13:45] <Dr_willis> run the app from a terminal.. look for error messages khaije1    - for starters
[13:45] <bazhang> khaije1, though you will need to enable a PPA repo for that (jdong's)
[13:45] <cypr1nus> ActionParsnip how can i list all installed packages?
[13:47] <khaije1> ya heheh thl excellent suggestions actually, thx i'll try each (probably in that order too :) )
[13:47] <bazhang> khaije1, you need a link for the handbrake ppa?
[13:48] <khaije1> oh ty bazhang, yes pls!
[13:49] <micettonero> ActionParsnip: sorry what is http transport?
[13:49] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive khaije1 only for hardy and intrepid though :)
[13:50] <bazhang> khaije1, you need to add that to your sources.list then update and install handbrake
[13:50] <khaije1> that works for me :D
[13:51] <cypr1nus> how can i check the list of installed packages?
[13:51] <Pici> cypr1nus: dpkg -l | grep "^ii"
[13:51] <khaije1> do these ppa's usually use repo keys?
[13:51] <zer0o> Dr_willis: once installed it doesnt appear on the kmenu, how do i put it there?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> good morning
[13:51] <khaije1> bazhang: i've heard a lot of praise for handbrake
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> micettonero: its a way to get the messages transported, check in the account settings
[13:52] <zer0o> Dr_willis: and it doesnt even run from a terminal with a "kdepim" command
[13:52] <bazhang> khaije1, you will have some gnome stuff though (handbrake-gtk)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> it would be nice if HandBrake worked on intrepid
[13:52] <bazhang> BluesKaj, it does
[13:53] <paulo_> #kubuntu-es
[13:53] <khaije1> oh rly? heh well nothings perfect
[13:53] <BluesKaj> bazhang , maybe it's kde4.2 beta that crashing it then
[13:53] <coky> problem solved
[13:53] <bazhang> BluesKaj, could be
[13:54] <dstar> hmm... on my debian/unstable server, zsh can complete database names when I do 'mysql <tab>', but it doesn't seem to do that on my kubuntu laptop... does the kubuntu zsh package have fewer completions than the debian, or do I need to configure something?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> bazhang ,HandBrake's icon launches , appears in the taskbar then disappears after 10secs or so.
[13:59] <dstar> It also will do directory/filename completion on remote hosts when I'm doing an scp, but not on my kubuntu laptop... is there a package I need to install to get more completions? 'apt-cache search zsh' didn't turn anything obvious up....
[14:01] <BluesKaj> I installed a whole new version of ffmpeg with unstripped libs dependencies , so maybe i won't need handbrake
[14:09] <dstar> Hmm... ok, all the completion files are there, actually....
[14:11] <guedressel> hello there!
[14:11] <guedressel> anyone experienced crashes of kopete on opening the settings dialog?
[14:13] <guedressel> ah
[14:13] <dstar> guedressel: not kopete, but do you have an ATI video card?
[14:13] <guedressel> found a bug on launchpad: 284153
[14:14] <guedressel> yp
[14:14] <guedressel> yep
[14:14] <guedressel> it's about my webcam
[14:14] <guedressel> uvcvideo kernel module makes it crash
[14:14] <guedressel> after unloading it works fine
[14:18] <khalidmian> need halp with kubuntu screensavers how come i cant find them in adept or synaptic
[14:20] <dstar> guedressel: I've found that something about the latest Catalyst drivers+Xorg7.4+KDE4.2+my HD3100 is very unstable... to the point I'm having to use a GNOME session.
[14:22] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[14:22] <knusperfrosch> anyone else having performance issues on kde4 with intel graphics?
[14:22] <guedressel> dstar: my problem is the video module..
[14:22] <guedressel> ..since i'm not interested in the webcam i have no problem to deactivate it
[14:22] <khalidmian> can anyone help re kubuntu screensavers
[14:22] <dstar> guedressel: makes sense
[14:24] <delicowa1> khalidmian:is your package list up to date
[14:24] <delicowa1> then try installing kdeartworks
[14:24] <guedressel> dstar: never the less - i'm looking forward to a big upgrade for many apps in KDE 4.2
[14:24] <BluesKaj> khalidmian , look for Xscreensavers
[14:25] <delicowa1> then try installing anything related to kdeartworks package
[14:25] <guedressel> can't keep my feets still
[14:25] <guedressel> but don't want to test a not-release version of it
[14:25]  * guedressel is excited about KDE 4.2
[14:26] <khalidmian> BluesKaj: in add/remove or package manager
[14:27]  * faileas is running the beta/rc of that... its both shiny and more stable
[14:28] <BluesKaj> khalidmian , look for xscreensaver in adept or synaptic or apt
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: apt-cache search screensaver
[14:29] <guedressel> faileas: is there a service menu in the dolphin context menu for (un-)packing archives?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip ,xscreensaver in kde4
[14:31] <dstar> faileas: the beta/rc of kde4.2? It's not like the version of kde4.1 or whatever that Kubuntu uses by default is useable....
[14:31] <khalidmian> i didd get screensavers via sudo apt get but not all
[14:32] <faileas> guedressel: there's an open with arc option
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: it will find all packages about screensavers so it could be kde2 for all he cares ;)
[14:32] <faileas> dstar: thats what i found too. i'm using the 'official' experimental 4.2 repos mentioned on the channel topic, and i love it to bits
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip , some have very limited options , xscreensaver has the most
[14:33] <guedressel> faileas: i don't like that...
[14:33] <guedressel> ...klick & go
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: well the list will help to advise what package to install
[14:33] <guedressel> but i will add it myself - if it's not there by default.
[14:34] <dstar> faileas: ditto. Except that plasma would crash as soon as I logged in. That didn't happen the last time I tried it, a couple of days ago, but my task bar panel vanished after a couple of minutes, and I couldn't get it back....
[14:36] <faileas> dstar: on 4.1?
[14:36] <dstar> faileas: 4.2
[14:36] <faileas> guedressel:
[14:36] <faileas> well i normally use the cli for that
[14:36] <guedressel> sure
[14:36] <faileas> dstar: wierd. on my laptop its awesomely stable
[14:36] <guedressel> if i'm just in the cli i do it like this too
[14:37] <faileas> ssh 192.168.1.128
[14:37] <faileas> oops
[14:37] <guedressel> but if i'm using my mouse klicking through my data it's just nice to not break that experience because of an archive file
[14:37] <dstar> faileas: I think it's the current Catalyst drivers, at a guess... it got worse when I upgraded to Catalyst 8.12  hoping that would help. I know the 9.1 beta drivers fix the compiz problem of flickering Xv video when using compositing, so maybe this is the same underlying problem and will be fixed....
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !worksforme | faileas
[14:37] <dstar> AAAAAARG!
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> faileas: ;)
[14:38] <dstar> Something seems to be overwriting my resolv.conf file... and I can't figure out what, since I don't have any dhcp interfaces....
[14:38] <faileas> dstar: thats an odd little thing. i'm running an x3100, which is not very good, and can't do compiz last time i tried ;)
[14:38] <faileas> ActionParsnip: maybe ;p
[14:39] <faileas> hmm
[14:39] <dstar> faileas: the one that's an rs780 chipset?
[14:39] <faileas> oh yeah, is there any way to change the inode size on a ext file system, or to set it during an install?
[14:39] <khalidmian> why isnt adept giving me options to install all screensavers
[14:39] <faileas> dstar: intel integrated graphics ;p
[14:39] <dstar> faileas: ahhhh
[14:40] <dstar> faileas: I've got a Radeon HD3100
[14:40] <faileas> Its barely competant- some stuff won't work on it, some will, compiz had huge problems when i tried it last year ;p
[14:40] <dstar> heh
[14:40] <khalidmian> ugh i give up
[14:41] <faileas> on the other hand, i think it can handle aero, but i wouldn't let vista pollute my hard drive ;p
[14:41] <dstar> faileas: do you have the latest driver for it? ISTR seeing somethig about improvements to the intel driver recently when it comes to compositing
[14:42] <nahy> hey!
[14:42] <faileas> dstar: i have the stock driver, well i do have the proposed repo activated
[14:42] <dstar> faileas: hmm... that should do it
[14:43] <dstar> faileas: when was the last time you tried compiz?
[14:43] <nahy> i tried to install gnome on my kubuntu but it couldn't download some packages
[14:43] <faileas> dstar: last year, before october
[14:44] <nahy> i couldn't run gnome session
[14:44] <khalidmian> can anyone help me with kubuntu screensavers
[14:44] <dstar> faileas: I think the changes were in the last couple of months, but I don't really recall -- I just saw it in passing.
[14:44] <dstar> khalidmian: what do you need?
[14:45] <faileas> dstar: it was supposed to have been fixed in october
[14:46] <khalidmian> dstar: i fail to understand why adept isnt showing screensaver installtion option ive installed k and xscreensavers via sudo but most are missing
[14:46] <nahy> i tried to remove gnome by sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop but it said package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[14:46] <bazhang> !purekde
[14:47] <jamie> hello
[14:47] <Guest99077> sup guise
[14:48] <dstar> khalidmian: what's one of the screensavers that's missing in specific (so I know what to look for)?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> nahy: the gnome-desktop is a hollow metapackage so wont uninstall the packages its made of
[14:48] <khalidmian> gl series i think in k and x
[14:50] <nahy> but the instructions in help.ubuntu said that this "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop" will work
[14:50] <SlimeyPete> how old are those instructions?
[14:51] <SlimeyPete> the *-desktop packages have been through several different revisions
[14:52] <dstar> khalidmian: are xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra, and kscreensaver-xsavers installed?
[14:52] <nahy> is there any way to repair the packages?
[14:52] <khalidmian> dstar: thats what im trying to install
[14:53] <dstar> khalidmian: do 'apt-cache search screensaver' from the command line, and see if they show up there
[14:53] <khalidmian> they did
[14:54] <nahy> is there any way to repair the packages?
[14:54] <nahy> they haven't downloaded completely
[14:55] <nahy> when i wanted to install gnome
[14:55] <dstar> khalidmian: hmm.... but they don't show up in adept?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> nahy: sudo apt-get -f install
[14:55] <khalidmian> no
[14:55] <nahy> ok
[14:56] <khalidmian> ill have to reinstall kubuntu
[14:57] <nahy> it says you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[14:57] <dstar> khalidmian: if I fire up adept and put 'xscreensaver' in the search box, it shows up... how many packages do you see if you do that?
[14:57] <wesley_> #kubuntu-devel
[14:58] <coky> how to make totemsupport ssa subtitle?
[14:58] <nahy> it says there is no space
[14:59] <dstar> nahy: what's the exact error message?
[14:59] <nahy> i tried df -h and it shows my / is full
[15:00] <nahy> no space left on device
[15:01] <nahy> in some other extent like this i erased my log and archive
[15:01] <nahy> is that ok?
[15:02] <genii> nahy: Logs are fine, they just get re-created
[15:03] <nahy> ok but please show me where are they i can't remember
[15:04] <genii> nahy: Usually in /var/log         and the subdirs in there specific to whichever apps as well. Don't delete the subdirs however
[15:04] <nahy> ok thank you
[15:05] <genii> nahy: You may also want to use apt-get clean         which will clean out the downloaded install packages
[15:05] <raphink> nahy: instead of erasing the logs, you could compress them by running logrotate
[15:06] <nahy> then can i run this command to get rid of gnome? "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"?
[15:06] <raphink> nahy: logrotate is responsible for regularly compressing the current logs and deleting old ones, so forcing it usually saves space
[15:06] <ubuntu> wow I am running kubuntu from the live cd--! awesome! :)
[15:06] <nahy> what is the exact command?
[15:06] <raphink> nahy: I doubt it will remove gnome, maybe "sudo aptitude autoremove" afterwards will (not sure though)
[15:06] <nahy> ok buddy
[15:07] <raphink> ubuntu: welcome to the kubuntu world then ;)
[15:08] <nahy> it's working "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"
[15:09] <raphink> ok
[15:10] <nahy> but in the middle it said: run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[15:10] <nahy> are they different?
[15:10] <raphink> then run it :)
[15:10] <ubuntu> hey all I am brand new to this, and wondering if kubuntu will run on an atom proc?
[15:10] <nahy> i mean is it going to uninstall gnome?
[15:11] <raphink> dpkg is what manages the packages individually, apt-get and aptitude allow to download packages from distant repositories and manage dependencies between them
[15:11] <kr8> дб
[15:11] <raphink> ubuntu: yes it will
[15:11] <raphink> ubuntu: atom is intel compatible (i386 compatible)
[15:12] <raphink> nahy: if it tells you to run "dpkg --configure -a", it's because the installation/removal didn't work fine, so it needs to be tried again
[15:12] <raphink> nahy: so you should do it if it tells you
[15:12] <nahy> ok ok i did it
[15:12] <raphink> nahy: you could retry your aptitude command to make sure it was completed
[15:13] <nahy> aha
[15:13] <raphink> ubuntu: I personnaly run kubuntu on an aspire one, which uses an atom proc
[15:14] <ubuntu> that is awesome--- this is a slick little os
[15:16] <nahy> i still see that my root is 100% used what should i do?
[15:17] <raphink> nahy: genii proposed you to clean your aptitude cache
[15:17] <raphink> run "sudo apt-get clean"
[15:17] <raphink> this will remove the packages that were downloaded by apt-get/aptitude and are not useful anymore
[15:17] <raphink> (located in /var/cache/apt/archives)
[15:18] <raphink> what you can do next is check where the space is used
[15:18] <raphink> in order to do that, you can do
[15:18] <raphink> sudo du -sh /*
[15:18] <raphink> this will show you the space used by each directory on the computer
[15:18] <raphink> once you locate a directory that uses a lot of space, you run "sudo du -sh" on this directory
[15:18] <raphink> until you find where you can remove space
[15:18] <saiy> my first time
[15:19] <raphink> konqueror also has a very nice plugin for that
[15:19] <raphink> hopefully still working in KDE4... let me check
[15:19] <raphink> hi saiy
[15:19] <saiy> hi raphink
[15:20] <saiy> my first to use kubuntu ,my first time to come here.
[15:20] <raphink> nahy: you can fire up konqueror, and while you view a folder, go to the view mode and switch to the file size view
[15:20] <raphink> this is very useful
[15:20] <raphink> welcome then saiy
[15:20] <raphink> saiy: first time using a linux OS ?
[15:20] <saiy> thank you ,
[15:20] <saiy> yes ,
[15:20] <raphink> congrats then :)
[15:21] <saiy> thank you
[15:21] <saiy> I like kubuntu very much,it is very beautiful
[15:22] <ahmos> hi, how can i change login password
[15:23] <raphink> ahmos: either in systemsettings (see the preferences in the K menu)
[15:23] <daDudeMan> I had a 'held back' amarok for a while on Hardy, then finally uninstalled it.  Now I cant get it to install without reference to libmp4v2.  i installed libmp4 from source and still no go.  any suggestions from this error?  ---> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:23] <raphink> ah, too late ;)
[15:23] <daDudeMan>   amarok: Depends: libmp4v2-0 (>= 1:1.6dfsg) but it is not installable
[15:23] <daDudeMan> E: Broken packages
[15:23] <dstar> hmm... anyone know of a replacement for sort that understands size postfixes (k,m,g, etc)?
[15:24] <ubuntu> wow so if this install goes ok I will have kubuntu on my new 8gb usb stick and be able to boot from it! what are the chances of that working!? lol
[15:24] <saiy> hi,raphink,where are you from?
[15:24] <raphink> saiy: france
[15:24] <saiy> oh,great country
[15:25] <saiy> I am from China,nice to talk with you.
[15:25] <dstar> daDudeMan: what happens if you do 'sudo apt-get install libmp2v2-0'?
[15:25] <raphink> dstar: you could preprocess it by replacing k with 1000, m with 1000000 and g with 1000000000...
[15:25] <raphink> dstar: using awk for example... but it's a bit ugly
[15:25] <dstar> er, 'sudo apt-get install libmp4v2-0'
[15:26] <dstar> raphink: yeah
[15:26] <raphink> ubuntu: it should work if you follow the howto on bootable USB keys
[15:27] <daDudeMan> dstar:  I get "  E: Couldn't find package libmp2v2-0 "
[15:28] <raphink> dstar: is it to use with ls ?
[15:28] <nahy> raphink: response to du -sh for root returned no access to /proc and .........
[15:28] <dstar> daDudeMan: typo on my part... should have been libmp4v2-0
[15:28] <daDudeMan> dstar:  Does it matter I have the medibuntu repo in list to search?
[15:28] <dstar> raphink: du -sH
[15:28] <raphink> dstar: let me see
[15:28] <dstar> daDudeMan: shouldn't, try it again with mp4 instead of mp2
[15:29] <daDudeMan> dstar:  E: Package libmp4v2-0 has no installation candidate
[15:29] <raphink> dstar: you use use "du -s" without the h
[15:29] <raphink> dstar: this way you won't have k, m, g
[15:29] <dstar> raphink: yeah, that works... I'm looking for a way to have my cake and eat it, too.
[15:30] <raphink> haha
[15:31] <nahy> ok guys i'm so sorry but i got to go. i'll give it a try tomorrow
[15:31] <saiy> buy
[15:31] <nahy> thank you again
[15:31] <nahy> bye bye
[15:32] <dstar> daDudeMan: what architecture are you on?
[15:32] <saiy> how can i setup plugins ,when I use konqueror?
[15:33] <phanbt> where do I get kernel 2.6.24-7 downgrade?
[15:35] <saiy> which down tools is better to use in kubuntu?
[15:35] <raphink> down tools saiy?
[15:36] <saiy> yes
[15:36] <raphink> what do you mean?
[15:36] <saiy> it is used to download something from net
[15:36] <saiy> any good tool?
[15:36] <daDudeMan> dstar: 64bit
[15:36] <raphink> ah, download
[15:36] <raphink> saiy: graphical?
[15:36] <saiy> yes
[15:37] <raphink> saiy: there's Kget in KDE
[15:37] <raphink> which works directly with konqueror
[15:37] <dstar> daDudeMan: what does uname -m say?
[15:37] <saiy> ok, i will try it now
[15:37] <saiy> thank you
[15:37] <raphink> you're welcome
[15:37] <saiy> raphink
[15:37] <daDudeMan> dstar x86_64
[15:40] <khalidmian> hi im back with a fresh install of kubuntu running updates as we speak and would like to know how to add screensavers via adept not via sudo
[15:40] <dstar> daDudeMan: try downloading http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17200239/libmp4v2-0_1.6dfsg-0.2ubuntu3_amd64.deb and installing it with 'dpkg -i <path to downloaded file>'
[15:40] <nethans_> Hi guys.. I'm using qemu.. and my virtual OS is freebsd.. but I dont know why I cannot ping between my hosts.
[15:40] <daDudeMan> dstar: thanks will try
[15:40] <nethans_> any idea?
[15:41] <dstar> daDudeMan: I'm assuming that x86_64 is the same thing as what debian calls amd64
[15:41] <daDudeMan> dstar: i think its a reasonable assumption
[15:41] <dstar> nethans_: is your host os kubuntu?
[15:41] <nethans_> ubuntu
[15:42] <dstar> daDudeMan: How well does 64-bit linux work out for you?
[15:42] <raphink> nethans_: are you hosts on the same network?
[15:42] <nethans_> yep
[15:42] <raphink> what the IPs/masks nethans_?
[15:42] <nethans_> my host.. and the vritual OS are inthe same network.
[15:42] <daDudeMan> dstar: it screams
[15:42] <dstar> nethans_: well, this channel is for kubuntu, but I'll see if I can help... are you trying to ping between host os and guest, or guest os and another guest os?
[15:42] <nethans_> 192.168.1.0 /24
[15:42] <dstar> daDudeMan: no incompatibility problems?
[15:43] <raphink> nethans_: they're all in this network?
[15:43] <nethans_> yes
[15:43] <daDudeMan> dstar: i think i found WINE is only 32 bit but that was it for "problems"
[15:43] <dstar> daDudeMan: cool.
[15:43] <raphink> nethans_: can you ping other IPs from the virtual machines?
[15:43] <khalidmian> hi im looking for assistance on how to get kubuntu screensavers via adept rather than via sudo command
[15:44] <nethans_> I cannot ping the VM..
[15:44] <dstar> daDudeMan: I'm seriously considering moving to 64-bit if I ever (god forbid *shudder*) have to rebuild my server.
[15:44] <raphink> khalidmian: if someone told you to type "sudo apt-get install <something>", seach for this <something> in adept
[15:44] <nethans_> I have virtual box.. and I can..
[15:44] <raphink> nethans_: can the VM ping the host?
[15:44] <nethans_> but with qemu I cannot
[15:44] <dstar> khalidmian: did you see the question I asked just before I lost my connection earlier?
[15:44] <Guest47299> how can I kill a blocked app?
[15:44] <nethans_> I have 2 vitual tool. qemu and virtual box..
[15:44] <raphink> Guest47299: use the kill command, or use Ctrl+Esc and click on the window
[15:44] <dstar> nethans_: not the same guest os image in both cases though, right?
[15:45] <nethans_> no..
[15:45] <khalidmian> dstar: hey star no i didnt i just reinstalled kubuntu and am running upadtes at the moment so i guess you can say my kubuntu is a virgin
[15:45] <nethans_> I tried to put a static route.. but didnt worked
[15:45] <saiy> kget is undoubted a good tool.   thank you again,raphink
[15:45] <Guest47299> thanks a lot, that actually worked hahah
[15:46] <dstar> nethans_: what's ifconfig -a and netstat -r output for both host and guest on the working and non-working cases (you'll want to use a pastebox of course)
[15:46] <nethans_> I used tcpdump to check if actually the pings are trying to go out of the box.. but they dont
[15:46] <raphink> Guest47299: it was more fun when the cursor became a skull though ;)
[15:46] <daDudeMan> dstar:  I do environmental modeling with GIS on the linux 64 bit system, and it just rips the data up.  big files in GB order too.  just grinds away....faaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssst too
[15:46] <dstar> khalidmian: once it's done with updates, fire up adept, go to search, and put in xscreensaver and see what you get in the results
[15:46] <raphink> saiy: yes it's nice :)
[15:47] <raphink> saiy: in the console, there's wget if you ever want to check it, it's very powerful, too
[15:47] <khalidmian> dstar: shall do and will msg you for assistance if it doesnt work
[15:47] <ubuntu> so how long is the kubuntu install to a usb stick supposed to take? it seems to be taking a long time
[15:48] <saiy> I don't like to do something in console ,haha
[15:48] <raphink> saiy: you're not used to it yet ;)
[15:48] <dstar> daDudeMan: hmm... maybe I should have gone with 64-bit on my laptop. On the gripping hand, at the time I was on a cell-phone internet connection, and just downloading _one_ iso took hours... worse, I had to do it twice because it died at 90% the first time. So I didn't want to risk a failure....
[15:48] <raphink> saiy: I didn't like to use the console when I began to use linux. Now I use it more than the graphical tools. It saves me tons of time :)
[15:49] <saiy> ha,really!
[15:49] <raphink> saiy: yes, really :)
[15:49] <dstar> ubuntu: You can install kubuntu to a usb stick?
[15:49] <khalidmian>  dstar i tried the beta version of Windows 7 all i can say is that it sucks
[15:49] <dstar> saiy: really, and there are things you can do with the command line that just aren't possible with a gui....
[15:50] <dstar> khalidmian: My understanding is it's just like Vista and Server 2008. Of course it sucks....
[15:50] <saiy> ok,from now on,i will use it a little everyday ,ha
[15:51] <dstar> There is _one_ thing I liked about vista, and that was that it was possible in explorer to (for example) only show files with names that starte with 'a-f', etc... is that doable with any of the various Kubuntu/Ubuntu file managers?
[15:52] <dstar> saiy: that's the best way to do it -- don't try to force yourself into only using it, just make sure you do so that you get more comfortable with it, and you'll find yourself doing more and more with it.
[15:52] <khalidmian> dstar: why have windows when you have an open door invitaion to linux
[15:52] <saiy> thank you,but i am newer , it is difficult to me probably
[15:53] <dstar> khalidmian: Well, my laptop doesn't run Vista anymore... :) I gave Vista a fair try. And even at the end of a cell-phone internet connection, it took me less time to download and install ubuntu than I'd already spent trying to get Vista working.
[15:53] <khalidmian> dstar: all upgardes are complete should i reboot or stay online
[15:53] <dstar> khalidmian: Up to you -- did it say you needed to reboot?
[15:54] <raphink> saiy: as a matter of fact, you can do without the command line
[15:54] <raphink> saiy: my wife has been using linux for 3 years and doesn't use the command line at all
[15:54] <saiy> ha ,great
[15:55] <raphink> saiy: but if you're interested in controlling your computer and gaining time (especially in batch processing), then it's really worth it to learn
[15:55] <raphink> saiy: the GUIs can only do what they were planned to. There can't be buttons and boxes for everything you might want to do with a computer
[15:56] <saiy> yes , you are right . i have ever seen my friend using the console.that is difficult
[15:58] <raphink> saiy: it is not difficult, it's just another way of interacting with the computer
[15:58] <raphink> with words instead of graphics
[15:58] <saiy> oh,i have to remember a lot of command,i hate to remember something mechanically.
[15:58] <raphink> hehe ;)
[15:59] <khalidmian> d-tech: back after required reboot now what
[16:00] <LazersK> Right. Anyone remember that x-terminal error I had?
[16:00] <saiy> raphink,when did  you learn  ubuntu ?
[16:00] <JackWinter> how can i see how many files and application has opened ?
[16:00] <khalidmian> ok something is really wrong with my adept manager
[16:00] <raphink> saiy: about 3 years ago
[16:00] <raphink> JackWinter: you can use lsof for that
[16:00] <LazersK> Well, i fixed that by installing xterm, except, i can only run KDE via: 'KDESTART'
[16:00] <LazersK> And it logs me in as root.
[16:00] <LazersK> >_>
[16:01] <LazersK> Fixable@?
[16:01] <saiy> you must master it
[16:01] <raphink> JackWinter: for example, to check files opened by kmail, you can do 'lsof | grep "^kmail"'
[16:01] <saiy> i mean you probably master  it
[16:02] <khalidmian> why doesnt the electric shepp screensaver work in kubuntu
[16:03] <JackWinter> raphink: and if i only want to know how many a specific app has opened ?
[16:03] <raphink> you want to know how many files a program has opened?
[16:03] <raphink> then you can pipe the lsof command into wc
[16:03] <raphink> like
[16:03] <raphink> lsof | grep "^kmail" | wc -l
[16:04] <raphink> will give you the number of lines returned
[16:04] <khalidmian> dstar: finally the screensavers show up in adept
[16:04] <dstar> khalidmian: cool
[16:04] <khalidmian> dstar: why doesnt electric sheep work under kubuntu
[16:05] <daDudeMan> dstar: that seemed to work, its installing amarok now. thanks!  =D
[16:05] <dstar> khalidmian: what happens when you try?
[16:05] <dstar> daDudeMan: no problem
[16:05] <ferlete> ola
[16:06] <JackWinter> raphink: many thanks
[16:06] <raphink> JackWinter: does that answer your question?
[16:06] <phanbt> I have a patch for kernel 2.6.24-7 what i the easiest way to mod it to patch for the latest and greatest kernel?
[16:07] <genii> !br | ferlete
[16:07] <LazersK> Hooray, another bug caused crash.
[16:07] <raphink> JackWinter: lsof might include pipes opened by the program aswell though, so if you want only real files, you might want to check "man lsof"
[16:07] <LazersK>  I seriously hope KDE 4.2 is better than this.
[16:07] <LazersK> >_x;;;
[16:07] <dstar> LazersK: oh god yes
[16:07] <dstar> LazersK: Does KDM not work for you?
[16:07] <LazersK> Kdebluetooth doesn't work.
[16:07] <noir_lord> Anybody else having performance issues with Scribus on 8.10?
[16:07] <LazersK> I have to start KDE by manually typing 'KDESTART'
[16:07] <LazersK> It often crashes.
[16:08] <khakane> kde4.2 is awesome.
[16:08] <khakane> infinite times better than 4.1
[16:08] <LazersK> I got the RC.
[16:08] <sevenseeker> yay bluetooth... saw the bug updates about the kdebluetooth being fixed and will be backported to kde4.1 too, thanks for the hard work!
[16:09] <JackWinter> raphink: no this is cool, i just need to know approximately.  i had a sampler that ran out of filehandles with the default 1024 :)
[16:09] <dstar> LazersK: Why do you have to start kde with kdestart? Can you not choose a kde session at the login screen?
[16:09] <LazersK> KDEbluetooth doesn't work on mine
[16:09] <LazersK> doesn't even start
[16:09] <raphink> JackWinter: ok :)
[16:10] <noir_lord> has tried the Scribus team repositories, tried the svn release, built the whole thing from scratch out of the SVN repository, has rebuilt cairo with hardware acceleration enabled and it still runs like a 2 legged dog
[16:10] <porta_ss> helo ppl
[16:10] <porta_ss> help me out
[16:10] <saiy> hi, raphink,thank you very much.I do not want to leave but i have to go to sleep ,it is 00:10 now.
[16:10] <porta_ss> my kubuntu doesn't start
[16:10] <porta_ss> after loading at startup
[16:10] <porta_ss> the system blocks
[16:11] <porta_ss> all the apps block and the mouse too
[16:11] <porta_ss> what's wrong with my system?
[16:13] <SparX> ...
[16:13] <porta_ss> help pls
[16:14] <porta_ss> all the system seems to block, nothing works, not even ctrl+alt+backspace
[16:14] <porta_ss> what's wrong???
[16:14] <khakane> what the hell does blocks mean
[16:14] <porta_ss> :(
[16:14] <khakane> to me it means prevents
[16:15] <genii> porta_ss: By "block" you mean the graphics are square and chunky, or that the applications are prevented from running?
[16:15] <porta_ss> I mean that everything suddenly stops from workin'
[16:15] <porta_ss> mouse, apps, everything
[16:15] <porta_ss> 5 seconds after login
[16:16] <porta_ss> no key responds, no mouse movement, nothing
[16:18] <genii> porta_ss: Does it take you back to login screen after a while?
[16:18] <porta_ss> no
[16:18] <porta_ss> it just...
[16:18] <cjae> Hi how do I access Nvidia Controls in Kubuntu 8.10
[16:19] <RurouniJones> proprietry driver?
[16:19] <porta_ss> dies, I could watch the desktop for all day, but I can't move the mouse nor do anything else
[16:19] <noir_lord> KMenu - Settings - NVidia X Server Settings (if you are using the proprietary driver)
[16:19] <cjae> sorry found it and yes
[16:20] <porta_ss> so...all services stop and all I can do is press "Shut down" to tr again
[16:20] <porta_ss> try*
[16:20] <genii> porta_ss: When this happens, do the 3 lights on the keyboard keep all blinking on and off together?
[16:20] <porta_ss> nope, nothing
[16:21] <StR|Sangreal> please, how can i get new 64bit flash into opera?
[16:22] <StR|Sangreal> (i have core2duo processor)
[16:22] <porta_ss> the fact is that I can't eve try to solve the problem, the system just won't work
[16:22] <porta_ss> I login and that's it
[16:22] <porta_ss> can't even open konsole
[16:22] <cjae> what s xinerama again? I would like to use independent x screens and have edited xorg lots but cannot remember what xinerama is
[16:22] <porta_ss> this is the second time I install kubuntu
[16:22] <genii> porta_ss: When this happens can you use ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a text login?
[16:22] <cjae> !xinerama
[16:23] <StR|Sangreal> i have just removed the older version of flashplugin-nonfree and its dependancies because it didnt work. how shall i get the new package?
[16:23] <Aleminimale> ciauz
[16:23] <porta_ss> I didn't try. but if I can, what should I type there?
[16:23] <RurouniJones> porta_ss: does CTRL+ALT+F2 take you to a command line prompt?
[16:23] <RurouniJones> ah nm, someone already mentioned it
[16:24] <porta_ss> I didn't try. but if I can, what should I type there?
[16:24] <cjae> ok what is panning is that were you make the screen bigger than your normal resolution and access it by moving mouse to the corners
[16:24] <cjae> sides
[16:25] <MagicFab> Hi all - I am wondering if there's a "welcome wizard" in Kubuntu, something that pops up when a newly-installed kubuntu is logged into. What would that package name be ?
[16:25] <coreymon77> MagicFab: and why would you need that?
[16:25] <porta_ss> I don't know if ctrl+alt+f2 works but I can tell you that ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work
[16:25] <coreymon77> MagicFab: theres nothing to set up
[16:26] <dstar> porta_ss: start by doing ctrl-alt-f1. If it takes you to a text screen with a login prompt, try to log in and see if it works.
[16:26] <MagicFab> coreymon77, some first-time users may see its use. I am just curious and wanted to see what it did. I believe I remember seing that while browsing for other packages but can't remember.
[16:27] <coreymon77> MagicFab: i dont know, but once again, I cant see any sort of use for it, everything that needs setting up is done on install
[16:27] <StR|Sangreal> please, could sb tell me how should i install flash into intrepid, espetially so that it works with opera?
[16:27] <coreymon77> !flash | StR|Sangreal
[16:28] <MagicFab> coreymon77, regardless if you think it's useless, that's not what I am asking - no need to debate that.
[16:28] <khalidmian> dstar: need assistance buddy
[16:28] <dstar> khalidmian: shoot
[16:29] <coreymon77> MagicFab: i already said that, im not sure what it would be called, apt-cache search should be your friend for that though
[16:29] <khalidmian> dstar: screensaver prefrences in advanced are
[16:30] <khalidmian> dstar: says usr/share/backgrounds dir doesnt exist
[16:30] <dstar> khalidmian: hmmm... does it?
[16:30] <coreymon77> well then it doesnt exist
[16:30] <khalidmian> i dont know i thought its a default dir
[16:30] <MagicFab> coreymon77, I've searched, but as expected no obvious keywords match that. For KDE 4 a welcome plasmoid is coming up:
[16:30] <MagicFab> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMefOpN5izs
[16:31] <MagicFab> So apparently it's not as useless as one would think :)
[16:31] <BluesKaj> MagicFab, do you mean browse available pkges that aren't installed? If so, there are thousands and if you have something in mind then surf the pkg managers like adept for apps you might like.
[16:31] <khalidmian> dstar: isnt that the dir for wallpapers by default?
[16:31] <coreymon77> MagicFab: "welcome" as a keyword doesnt give you anything
[16:32] <StR|Sangreal> please, the manual for me is too complicated i have centrino2 architecture and use intrepid kubuntu
[16:32] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: no, he means a welcome wizzard when you log in to a newly installed kubuntu
[16:32] <dstar> khalidmian: I don't know, actually... I don't do much with walpapers
[16:32] <coreymon77> StR|Sangreal: its called apt, or adept, use it
[16:32] <BluesKaj> coreymon77 , Ikinow what he means , it's a matter of interpretation
[16:32] <porta_ss> hello again
[16:32] <StR|Sangreal> whence i should get sth compatible with amd64
[16:33] <porta_ss> ctrl+alt+f1 won't work,ctrl+alt+f1 neither
[16:33] <porta_ss> ctrl+alt+f2 neither
[16:33] <StR|Sangreal> the official flash plugin x86_64 does not work, neither flashplugin-nonfree with nspluginwrapper
[16:33] <MagicFab> coreymon77, at the risk of repeating myself, no.
[16:33] <dstar> khalidmian: is screensaver-default-images installed?
[16:33] <dstar> khalidmian: brb
[16:34] <porta_ss> nothing works
[16:34] <StR|Sangreal> which package should i get then?
[16:34] <porta_ss> no keys no mouse, nothing
[16:34] <StR|Sangreal> and from which repository?
[16:34] <StR|Sangreal> please
[16:35] <porta_ss> any idea please?
[16:35] <coreymon77> StR|Sangreal: if nobody is answering, theres a good chance that either nobody who is here and active at the moment knows, or is busy with something else at the moment
[16:35] <genii> porta_ss: If you choose Console login from the login screen, does it take you to a text login?
[16:36] <porta_ss> well, I don't have ckonsole option in the login menu, in 8.04 there was
[16:36] <porta_ss> indeed
[16:36] <porta_ss> or is it?
[16:36] <porta_ss> uhmmm, not quite sure
[16:37] <porta_ss> but if there is, what should I type in that konsole
[16:37] <porta_ss> ???
[16:37] <porta_ss> oh, u're right there is konsole
[16:37] <porta_ss> so, what should I do with it?
[16:38] <porta_ss> reinstalling kubuntu doesn't solve the problem,
[16:38] <genii> porta_ss: The idea is that if you can at least get to a usable console login, then some forensics can be done to see whats happening
[16:38] <porta_ss> ok, but I'm dual booting
[16:38] <IcyPolecat> sorry for xpost but #ubuntu is pretty darn busy - anyone now of a Kubuntu app that supports reading dmg (autocad) files?
[16:39] <porta_ss> so could you tell me what should I do in the console?
[16:39] <khalidmian> dstar: in software sources i try to add cdrom but it doesnt mount it
[16:39] <porta_ss> cause I'm dual booting, so I must restart in order to open the konsole
[16:40] <genii> porta_ss: The first useful thing would be to install the package pastebinit. eg:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:40] <porta_ss> ok, after that?
[16:40] <genii> porta_ss: In this case, why not instead boot to livecd and come here again from on that.
[16:40] <porta_ss> uhmmm, ok
[16:40] <dstar> khalidmian: hmm... not sure on that. on my system, dpkg says /usr/share/backgrounds is owned by screensaver-default-images, ubuntu-wallpapers, and ubuntustudio-wallpapers
[16:41] <khalidmian> dstar: in software sources i try to add cdrom but it doesnt mount it any clue?
[16:41] <dstar> khalidmian: Can you mount the cd manually?
[16:42] <khalidmian> dstar: how?
[16:43] <dstar> khalidmian: grep cdrom /etc/fstab, then do sudo mount <second entry on the fstab line (mine is /media/cdrom0)>
[16:44] <dstar> khalidmian: so if yours is like mine, sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[16:49] <setuid_w00t> I am in the process of moving my kubuntu install to a larger hard drive.  I have created the new partitions and filesystems and used rsync to copy all the files.  Now my problem is that I need to install grub on the new drive.  Can anyone tell me what I need to do?  I am currently using the LiveCD functionality of the kubuntu installer and have my new drive mounted. under ~/new_linux
[16:50] <EagleScreen> grub-install
[16:50] <setuid_w00t> EagleScreen: which directory do I execute that from?
[16:51] <porta_ss> ok, I got into konsole,
[16:51] <EagleScreen> to install grub you need two things to specify: root folder for grub installation, and disk in whose MBR grub will be installed
[16:51] <porta_ss> ok, I got into konsole,
[16:52] <porta_ss> I got updates and installed pstebinit
[16:52] <porta_ss> but still won;t work
[16:53] <EagleScreen> for instance: grub-install --root-directory=~/new_linux '(hd1)'
[16:53] <setuid_w00t> EagleScreen: ahhh.  I was trying to specify the last paramater as /dev/sdb
[16:54] <EagleScreen> you only have to set --root-directory and HD correctly
[16:54] <EagleScreen> sdb must be hd1
[16:54] <EagleScreen> sda hd0
[16:55] <setuid_w00t> well it didn't work when I did /dev/sdb
[16:55] <Goan_> Hi. I am having "kernel-panic" instances on my hardy installation since last week. Is there something that I can check?
[16:57] <STD> hi
[16:57] <EagleScreen> setuid_w00t you may need to edit (or create) manually the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in your new disk
[16:57] <setuid_w00t> EagleScreen: I have edited it to modify the disk UUIDs
[16:58] <STD> somebody now about bluetooh in kubuntu 8.10?
[16:58] <setuid_w00t> EagleScreen: and the (hd#,#) entries
[16:58] <EagleScreen> well done
[16:58] <setuid_w00t> (hd1,0) == /dev/sdb1 right?
[16:58] <Goan> Hi. I am having "kernel-panic" instances on my hardy installation since last week. Is there something that I can check?
[16:58] <EagleScreen> STD bluetooh in kubuntu 8.10 is broken
[16:58] <STD> really?
[16:59] <STD> why?
[16:59] <EagleScreen> yes setuid_w00t you are roght
[16:59] <setuid_w00t> ok.  Rebooting.  Thanks
[16:59] <Goan> Just after few minutes of login, the caps lock led starts flashing and the screen just freezes...
[17:00] <tyler_d2> I have a hard-drive named New
[17:00] <tyler_d2> New Volume - sorry, and I would like to change the name on it
[17:00] <EagleScreen> STD seems to be a kbluetooth issue
[17:01] <tyler_d2> as well I would like to automount it without the password?
[17:01] <EagleScreen> tyler_d2 change label?
[17:01] <giovanni_> ciao
[17:01] <tyler_d2> EagleScreen: yes
[17:01] <EagleScreen> !fstab
[17:01] <giovanni_> !list*
[17:02] <LjL> !it | giovanni
[17:02] <EagleScreen> !fstab | tyler_d2
[17:02] <genii> porta
[17:02] <genii> Beh
[17:03] <EagleScreen> tyler_d2 there is a python script to change disk labels, i can pass it on to you
[17:03] <STD> 	
[17:03] <STD> and do not know how to fix it
[17:03] <EagleScreen> i dont know
[17:04] <STD> no way?ç
[17:04] <EagleScreen> STD let me see..
[17:04] <STD> ok!
[17:05] <STD> this is
[17:05] <STD> 	
[17:05] <STD> It is therefore very important
[17:08] <EagleScreen> STD Bluetooh is broken, it is written in 8.10 release notes, you should read it before upgrade to 8.10
[17:08] <STD> yeah i read it
[17:09] <STD> 	
[17:09] <STD> but I thought it had fixed
[17:09] <EagleScreen> you did it wrongly
[17:10] <EagleScreen> you must use 8.04 to use bluetooh
[17:10] <STD> hmm yeap
[17:10] <STD> really?
[17:10] <EagleScreen> by the moment, yes
[17:10] <EagleScreen> and i have no hope to this is going to be fixed soon in 8.10
[17:11] <STD> how i can help?
[17:12] <EagleScreen> STD opena terminal and run command kbluetooth4, after, paste the putput into pastebin and share it
[17:13]  * cuznt puts on protective wear. no STD's for me!
[17:14] <STD> 	
[17:14] <STD> know of any tutorial?
[17:14] <EagleScreen> negative
[17:14] <STD> do you now about venenux?
[17:16] <STD> hey man, do you now about venenux?
[17:17] <STD> w
[17:17] <STD> well see you!
[17:17] <STD> thanks"
[17:18] <STD> www.venenux.org
[17:25] <Koordin> hi i have a problem when i type "xrandr --size 640x480" : my desktop does not scale
[17:37] <StR|Sangreal> hello
[17:37] <StR|Sangreal> please i have two issues
[17:38] <StR|Sangreal> 1. i need a thirdparty driver for my ATI, probably a reason for why my desktop manager sometimes displays black and white stripes or other disturbed graphics
[17:39] <StR|Sangreal> 2. please could sb tell me how to install flash onto AMD64 kubuntu intrepid? which one, from where and how should i integrate it into opera wb?
[17:40] <alan_> Hi somebody know how to install mozilla firefox in kubuntu ???
[17:41] <hyper__ch> huhu
[17:42] <alan_> ???
[17:42] <Wulong> alan_: menu -> application -> system -> pacakage manager.
[17:43] <hyper__ch> alan_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[17:43] <nippz> @ StR|Sangreal http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356649
[17:44] <alan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another pr  ess using it?
[17:44] <nippz> @ StR|Sangreal http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-969043.html
[17:44] <nippz> alan_ did you use sudo?
[17:44] <alan_> : Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporaril  unavailable)
[17:44] <Wulong> Because he did what I said.
[17:44] <Wulong> Close package manager.
[17:45] <nippz> StR|Sangreal those two should answer both questions you had
[17:45] <alan_> Thanks you =)
[17:45] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Grab the 64 bit Flash from: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz         then extract the file to  /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[17:46] <StR|Sangreal> should i do that for firefox and for opera separately?
[17:47] <genii> StR|Sangreal: You could also just put the .so file someplace common amd symlink from the plugin dirs of opera and firefox
[17:48] <alan_> Thanks a lot =)
[17:50]  * alan_ is away: Gone away for now.
[17:50]  * alan_ is away: Gone away for now.
[17:52] <dstar> hmm... what can cause a drmGetMagic error for aiglx?
[17:55] <genii> Probably hdcp related
[17:57] <dstar> genii: hdcp?
[17:58] <genii> ds187: High Definition Copy Protection         ... if you want to play a bluray for instance through the computer, the video card has to be HDCP compliant
[17:58] <neptunepink> My printer often prints an extra blank page. :/
[18:00] <dstar> genii: why would that affect OpenGL acceleration?
[18:03] <alan_> Sorry again I'm french and i want to know what does a "GPL game"  mean
[18:03] <alan_> ??
[18:04] <raphink> alan_: GPL game ??
[18:04] <Wulong> GNU Public Lisenced game.
[18:04] <raphink> alan_: la GPL est une licence d'utilisation libre
[18:04] <Wulong> A opensource game.
[18:05] <alan_> I want to have some game on my computer
[18:05] <raphink> la GNU Public Lisence comme Wulong l'a dit
[18:05] <raphink> alan_: il y a beaucoup de jeux pour linux
[18:05] <alan_> a bon ?
[18:05] <raphink> alan_: http://www.happypenguin.org/ http://www.linuxgames.com/
[18:06] <raphink> alan_: PM
[18:07] <raphink> alan_: tu as vu mon PM?
[18:08] <French76> Merci !!!!
[18:08] <alan__> merci ^
[18:10] <raphink> alan__: de rien, tu as vu mon PM?
[18:15] <alan__> non j'ai eu un pb de connection
[18:17] <hyper__ch> !fr | alan__
[18:18] <alan__> thx
[18:21] <ealonso> hola
[18:21] <ealonso> necesito que alguien me ayude con el adept de kubuntu
[18:22] <StR|Sangreal> !es
[18:22] <riorio> !es | ealonso
[18:22] <StR|Sangreal> gracias :)
[18:22] <riorio> de nada
[18:23] <StR|Sangreal> please i need advice
[18:23] <StR|Sangreal> where shall i copy the proprietary x86 flashplugin... .so so that it works with firefox?
[18:24] <riorio> StR|Sangreal, you don't want my advices, I'm new on Kubuntu
[18:24] <riorio> sorry
[18:24] <ealonso> in spanish please
[18:25] <StR|Sangreal> ealonso, for spanish join #kubuntu-es
[18:25] <ealonso> ok tanck you
[18:29] <Koordin> hi, i can't have the resolution 640x480 ; the desktop does not scale
[18:32] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Apologies on lag, work required me. For firefox, the plugin dir is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins        . But you need the 64 bit version of firefox for that, the 64 bit plugin won't work on 32 bit firefox.
[18:33] <StR|Sangreal> and how should i get 64bit firefox
[18:33] <StR|Sangreal> (the opera works fine btw :))
[18:35] <genii> StR|Sangreal: I cannot recall offhand if the default is 64bit if you are running amd64 kubuntu. Perhaps so. You could try
[18:37] <tyler_d2> how do I change the volume label on a hard drive
[18:37] <genii> tyler_d2: It depends on the filesystem of said partition.
[18:37] <tyler_d2> ntfs
[18:38] <tyler_d2> mlabel syntax is not working out for me
[18:40] <genii> tyler_d2: You want ntfsprogs. At any rate, there is good doc here on the entire subject https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive  Keep in mind volume names do not seem to change until after next boot.
[18:40] <dominique> !lvm
[18:42] <hubert_> my shift lock does not work for the numbered lines above the normal keys on the keyboard, any hints ?
[18:42] <Malic> where can i find the firefox bookmark file?
[18:43] <Malic> !de
[18:43] <genii> Malic: In /.mozilla/firefox/*.default/
[18:44] <Malic> genii: thx!!
[18:44] <genii> Malic: You're welcome
[18:44] <neothecat> i really tried and looked, but i can't find this...  i run "aptitude update", i get this error:
[18:44] <neothecat> : GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verifiedbecause the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4874D3686E80C6B7
[18:44] <Pici> neothecat: Thats normal.
[18:45] <genii> neothecat: That's not crucial
[18:45] <neothecat> Pici: ok, then i won't worry :)
[18:45] <neothecat> thanks
[18:45]  * genii hands Pici a coffee
[18:45] <fsamson> is there a way to show my system information with konversation?
[18:45] <fsamson> under windows i have mirc so i run a script.
[18:46] <hubert_> Sysinfo for 'hplaptop': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2050@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3192 bogomips), , RAM: 968/1001MB, 114 proc's, 22.13min up
[18:47] <hubert_> fsamson /sysinfo
[18:47] <xp-killer> is there a way to do multip folder instead of right clikin on the mouse to creat a folder all the time?
[18:47] <neothecat> another question... i am using KDE 4.2 RC 2.  kmail keeps on seg faulting when i go into my inbox.  has anybody else seen this, and i just need to wait for 4.2 to go gold?
[18:47] <fsamson> Sysinfo for 'fsamson-desktop': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.4 (KDE 4.1.4), CPU: AMDAthlon644000+ at 2410 MHz (4821 bogomips), HD: 252/986GB, RAM: 1955/2024MB, 145 proc's, 20.34h up
[18:47] <fsamson> nice
[18:47] <fsamson> RAM: 1955/2024MB, 145 proc's, 20.34h up
[18:47] <fsamson> 1955 used?
[18:47] <fsamson> no way..
[18:47] <xp-killer> is there a way to do multip folder instead of right clikin on the mouse to creat a folder all the time?
[18:48] <fsamson> good question
[18:48] <hubert_> mkdir folder1 folder2
[18:49] <hubert_> or mkdir -p folder1/subfolder1
[18:49] <fsamson> hubert knowns all
[18:50] <xp-killer> hubert_: i have to open a terminal on the window where i want the folders?
[18:52] <hubert_> yes xp-killer
[18:53] <xp-killer> hubert_: cool it work tanks
[18:53] <Koordin> how can i uninstall these drivers ? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22.html
[18:55] <hubert_> Koordin: i had a proplem with those as well,   removing the prepacked ubuntu version made the nvidia from site work
[18:56] <Koordin> hubert_: but i want to uninstall these (cause i have a display problem
[18:56] <zer0o> hi how do i get rid of Korganizer? even if i uncheck the "start at boo" option it starts automaticly at each boot, then i unistalled it from the repos, reboot, still there!!!! how do i get rid of it? help :D
[18:57] <||arifaX> hi, I have a wlan button on my notebook. if I forget to activate it before linux is up I can't enable wlan anymore. tried loading some modules but does only work when on at reboot. what can I do to find out how to activate it manually even if not on at boot?
[18:58] <fabio> ciao
[18:58] <fabio> raga
[19:00] <genii> zer0o: sudo apt-get remove --purge korganizer             But it still won't neccesarily remove shortcuts, rc files or so on which are in home directories. Only system files which it originally installed with the package.
[19:00] <Lokiase> hello all, can someone tell me how to go from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[19:01] <genii> fabio: /join #ubuntu-it       for Italian
[19:01] <hubert_> Lokiase:  if you want kde desktop    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:02] <fabio> ok sorry :)
[19:02] <zer0o> genii: thank u man! and how do i remove the other stuff? i can do it manually but i dunno where the files are located physically
[19:03] <JackWinter> how do i disable hardware rendering and switch on software rendering for kde4 in 8.10.
[19:03] <Lokiase> hubert_: doesnt it conflict with the languages?
[19:03] <hubert_> what do you mean languages ?
[19:03] <Lokiase> last time I installed kubuntu desktop, some things were in dutch, some in english
[19:04] <Lokiase> hubert_: last time I installed kubuntu desktop, some things were in dutch, some in english
[19:05] <hubert_> that depens on how much packages are translated, and if you installed all the localized packages, and if all the settings are correct
[19:05] <zer0o> genii: while removing it thatz what the output said http://paste.ubuntu.com/107902/ does this mean it removed also kdepim? i needed that! does it mean kdepim cant work without korganizer? uff...
[19:06] <Riddell> ** kubuntu bug squishing talk in #ubuntu-classroom
[19:09] <Lokiase> hubert_: now its asks me kdm of gdm???
[19:11] <hubert_>  dm is display manager,  k is for kde,  g for gnome ,
[19:11] <Lokiase> so K?:)
[19:11] <hubert_> what you prefer,   most kde users choose kdm
[19:16] <genii> zer0o: You could try after to install kdepim
[19:17] <naibed> pwet
[19:18] <bukharin> hello. does anyone know how to disable the session lock on suspend?
[19:18] <bukharin> i have two users on one laptop, when one suspends, the computer is able to resume without needfor a pasword, but when the session belongs to the other user, the computer suspendes and also locks the session, requiring a password for resume.
[19:18] <bukharin> i want to leave it as no password for all users...
[19:19] <bukharin> but i can't find any conf option in kde to manage this...
[19:19] <bukharin> (this is kde 3.5.9, on hardy)
[19:20] <jado> i have a big prolem : "the Nvidia kernel module has version
[19:20] <jado> 180.22 but ths nvidia driver component has version 180.11
[19:28] <genii> jado: Does: apt-cache policy nvidia-new-kernel-source                      report version 180.22 as being available to install?
[19:29] <xp-killer> u admins dont get bored of the same questions over n over n doing the samething everyday?
[19:29] <uten> xp-killer: We live for it
[19:29] <uten> or
[19:29] <uten> at least the bots do
[19:32] <xp-killer> uten: ok if u say so.
[19:33] <uten> It's rarely ever the same thing every day just in between releases
[19:33] <uten> new release different things to anwser
[19:33] <uten> Just do it every day till the new release
[19:33] <uten> at least in Kubuntu we have 4 releases a year
[19:34] <xp-killer> yeah but its a kind of scrary to upgrade and loose eveything
[19:35] <uten> You don't have to upgrade
[19:36] <TimS> Is there anyway to fix an FLV header? I can't play or convert this file because of a header error, and I don't know how to fix this :/
[19:38] <bukharin> does anyone know how to stop the session from locking up on suspend?
[19:40] <uten> Tims: oketa ?
[19:41] <indystorm> ok so I have kubuntu installed on a usb memory stick.... now I want to get a web browser that supports flash- how do I get it on my system?
[19:42] <genii> bukharin: Try in /etc/default/acpi-support   changing LOCK_SCREEN=true  to LOCK_SCREEN=false
[19:42] <genii> indystorm: You are running now on usb version or still on installer cd or so?
[19:43] <indystorm> no I am running kubuntu directly off the usb memory card- it's a bit slow on disk access, but otherwise runs very fast
[19:43] <bukharin> genii: but that's a system wide conifg... i only experience lock up with one user, other users suspend without locks....
[19:44] <uten> Did that one user change something?
[19:44] <genii> indystorm: So then just install firefox and flashplugin-nonfree   the normal way
[19:45] <indystorm> ok now how do I install firefox?
[19:45] <indystorm> can I do it with adept?
[19:46] <uten> Ye
[19:46] <uten> s
[19:47] <genii> indystorm: For flashplugin-nonfree      you will need to enable the multiverse repository in Adept
[19:54] <lakis1982> hello .. i have a driver that i want to install for my webcam.. its in tar.gz   format ... how do i install it .. does anyone know ???
[19:57] <marcel> exist another client program like Kopete under ubuntu ?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> lakis1982, in the terminal : tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz ..then go into the folder it creates and find the readme test for further instructions.
[19:57] <BluesKaj> test=text
[19:57] <uten> marcel:
[19:58] <marcel> yes
[19:58] <uten> not quite like kopete
[19:58] <Jado> hi i need help ; i can't have the 640x480 resolution : my desktop does not scale on the screen
[19:58] <uten> lakis1982: un tar it
[19:58] <lakis1982> let me try
[19:58] <marcel> i want to use YM under ubuntu, kopete fails
[19:58] <genii> lakis1982: Un-tar the file. Make sure you have packages build-essential  and linux-headers-$(uname -r)    installed. Then cd into the dir which it untarred to. Read the readme file there.
[19:59] <marcel> uten: do you know the name of program please ??
[19:59] <genii> lakis1982: The usual instructions in the readme will be something like:  make && sudo make install          then likely:sudo depmod -a            if it's a module
[19:59] <uten> !im
[20:00] <marcel> Pidgin , thank you
[20:00] <nico_> ciao
[20:00] <lakis1982> i untar it and a folder was created
[20:01] <lakis1982> there is inside a file with name read and install ... but it doesnt say anything avout installation
[20:01] <lakis1982> its saying about compiling the driver
[20:01] <uten> The compilation will install.
[20:03] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[20:03] <genii> lakis1982: Then re-read my instructions and follow them
[20:04] <lakis1982> do you guys have a webcam in linux?
[20:04] <genii> lakis1982: I use a Microsoft VX6000 which U had to compile a specialised driver for also.
[20:05] <lakis1982> i have creative webcam nx.. do you know any driver for it ??
[20:05] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu 8.10
[20:06] <uten> Jado: does your mouse push the edge of the screen?
[20:07] <indystorm> ok so it says firefox is installed, how do I access it?
[20:08] <Jado> no uten, it disappears
[20:08] <genii> lakis1982: The gspca driver should work for it
[20:08] <Jado> (only on the bottom of the screen)
[20:08] <lakis1982> and how do i install it ?
[20:09] <uten> your mouse pointer goes away when it hits the edge of the monitor?
[20:09] <genii> lakis1982: Does command:  modprobe -l | grep gspca                       show a result?
[20:10] <Jado> uten: the bottom edge, yes ; actually it does not go away, it's just that i can't see it anymore ; for example, i can click on the K-Button without seeing it, because i know that is it in the bottom left corner
[20:11] <lakis1982> it gives me some lines
[20:11] <genii> lakis1982: Good. then you already have the driver.
[20:12] <lakis1982> and why camera is not working in skype?
[20:12] <genii> lakis1982:  It should just take:  sudo modprobe gspca                      to load the driver
[20:12] <nippz> xp-killer its not scary at all
[20:12] <genii> lakis1982: skype does not always recognise the same webcams that otherwise work ok in linux. It has it's own list of approved webcams
[20:12] <lakis1982> it says....fatal : module gspca not found
[20:13] <nippz> just learn to dual boot - keep a stable and a experimental, and if your really bored you can keep same username... and backup good configs in stable so when u go expermental u can redo it easily
[20:13] <nippz> share /home
[20:15] <lakis1982> so?
[20:15] <lakis1982> it says....fatal : module gspca not found
[20:15] <mohbana> why are there so many dependencies for konqueror on ubuntu gnome
[20:15] <xp-killer> nippz: yes cause i just upgrade 3 days ago and my pc had probs and i had lots of data i didnt want to lost
[20:15] <mohbana> 1 upgraded, 32 newly installed, 0 to remove and 120 not upgraded.
[20:16] <mohbana> just to get a browser
[20:16] <Jado> uten: do you have any idea ?
[20:16] <uten> Jado: Well first question is why do you ned that low a res?
[20:16] <Jado> uten: to play starcraft ^^
[20:17] <mohbana> hello ...
[20:17] <uten> ha ha
[20:18] <Jado> ha ha ?
[20:18] <uten> Starcraft as a motivator :)
[20:19] <marcel> thank you for pidgin, run fine
[20:20] <mohbana> is anyone around
[20:20] <uten> ys
[20:20] <Jado> uten: very nice game :) and startcraft 2 will soon come out !
[20:20] <uten> Jado: I know what video card?
[20:21] <blinkz> hey can some one tell me how to get flash one kubuntu
[20:21] <genii> lakis1982: Try:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install module-assistant && sudo module-assistant -k "/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)" auto-install gspca-source
[20:21] <blinkz> on*
[20:21] <Jado> does anyone have an idea for my 640x480 resolution problem ?
[20:21] <mohbana> why the hell do i have to install all those dependencies
[20:22] <nashk> Hi, I have two monitors. I'm wondering, is it possible when I'm switching windows to let the switching only take place on screen1 ?
[20:22] <blinkz> flash???
[20:22] <lakis1982> its downloading and installing some things
[20:23] <Jado> uten: geforce 7200
[20:23] <genii> lakis1982: If it makes some errors, use the pastebin website to copy and paste the error there so I can see what it's doing
[20:23] <uten> mohbana: For?
[20:23] <mohbana> uten: konqueror
[20:23] <uten> what driver?
[20:24] <Jado> uten: i've tried 180.11 and 180.22
[20:24] <uten> mohbana: How are you installing it?
[20:24] <genii> lakis1982: If it completes without error, you should be able to do the: sudo modprobe gspca
[20:24] <Stecchino> could anyone with KDE 4.1.3 kubuntu packages and amarok 2.0.1.1 please try thid: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181338
[20:24] <mohbana> uten: CL, i just typed konqueror and it gave me a install command
[20:24] <demonizer> hello
[20:24] <lakis1982> Updated infos about 1 packages
[20:24] <lakis1982> Bad kernel version specification at /usr/bin/module-assistant line 566, <$apt> line 6.
[20:24] <lakis1982> thats the only thing it gave me..
[20:24] <lakis1982> is it error?
[20:25] <demonizer> ...........................................................
[20:25] <genii> lakis1982: Yes.
[20:25] <uten> mohbana: sudo apt-get install konqueror
[20:25] <mohbana> uten: yes
[20:25] <demonizer> lakis1982: yeah it is
[20:25] <lakis1982> so?
[20:25] <uten> that will instal depends
[20:26] <mohbana> my question is; why so many dependencies.  i just want to install the browser not the whole platform
[20:26] <dstar> Well. That's fun. I can oops my system by doing wine /path/to/arcanum/setup.exe twice....
[20:26] <genii> lakis1982: Try only then: sudo module-assistant auto-install gspca-source                                  you will get a text interface, you want to select BUILD
[20:28] <uten> mohbana: Konqueror isn't really a browser it's a viewer
[20:28] <uten> It's probably the most heavy user of KDE technologies
[20:28] <genii> lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination
[20:28] <lakis1982> Build of the package gspca-source failed! How do you wish     │
[20:28] <uten> Hence why it is in the base install
[20:28] <lakis1982>        │ to proceed?                                                   │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │                                                               │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │       VIEW     Examine the build log file                     │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │       CONTINUE Skip and continue with the next operation      │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │       STOP     Stop processing the build commands
[20:29] <mohbana> so what browser uses webkit then
[20:29] <lakis1982> view?
[20:29] <Pici> !paste
[20:29] <uten> Auroa
[20:30] <tyler_d2> looking to fix my drive -- when I run ntfslabel /dev/sdb1 it produces an error, wants windows, I don't want to do this?
[20:30] <genii> lakis1982: Yes, you should have a red and blue screen with a few items to choose from in the middle. This responds only to key entriy, no mouse. Use arrow keys to choose selection, enter to activate. Tab switches fields
[20:31] <mohbana> aurora is a browser?
[20:32] <genii> !pastebin | lakis
[20:32] <lakis1982> ok but its a large text and i can select it all with mouse because it doesnt work...
[20:32] <lakis1982> i cant select
[20:33] <uten> mohbana: What are you looking for specifically?
[20:33] <HappySmileMan> mohbana: I think it's spelled Arora, but yes, it's a Qt4 web browser using Webkit, Konqueror uses KHTML, which is what Webkit was forked from
[20:33] <genii> lakis1982: "[15:28:49] <genii> lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination
[20:33] <mohbana> a browser on linux that uses webkit
[20:33] <uten> epiphany
[20:33] <uten> It went default webkit like a year ago
[20:33] <genii> lakis1982: "[15:28:49] <genii> lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination"   --note I said go to bottom of log there, highlight the last part you can see
[20:34] <genii> Sorry for dbl post guys
[20:35] <lakis1982> http://paste.ubuntu.com/107958/plain/
[20:37] <uten> hmm
[20:37] <uten> not sure
[20:37] <ptroke> I have a puzzle with Intrepid and Open Office. With openoffice.org-kde it does not save or export. Without, the menues don't behave properly. Any ideas?
[20:38] <uten> how does it not save?
[20:39] <lakis1982> also something else.. when i put a dvd movie on the dvd player in pc kubuntu doesnt load it ...and i cant see the movie..generally no disc is autorun ... why ???
[20:44] <genii> Bah. Work is requiring me for an extended period. I'll need to be /away a while
[20:45] <genii> lakis1982: At any rate, perhaps google about installing the gspca driver for ubuntu/kubuntu
[20:45] <sergio4> hi
[20:46] <sergio4> ciao
[20:48] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[20:48] <uten> Jado: You can ask in #ubuntu as well
[20:48] <uten> It's not a KDE specific issue
[20:48] <Jado> yes uten thanks i am
[20:54] <ptroke> uten: If your message was for me? I have removed openoffice extensions for GTK, Gnome and KDE. Open Office is running fine and very fast! Apearence is a bit clunky though.
[20:54] <raidenovich> hey guys, im trying to add mount over a samba folder.. what do i have to add in /etc/fstab?  "//server/laptop     /home/raiden/Server     cifs      defaults   0,0" doesnt work
[20:55] <uten> :-) but it saves?
[20:55] <mohbana> how do i uninstall konqueror and it's dependencies ?
[20:56] <uten> mohbana: Which one did you install?
[20:56] <uten> KDE4?
[20:56] <ptroke> uten: loads, save exports, does all that I would expect it to. I will raise the issue with kubuntu, kde and openoffice.org. There's a bug in there somewhere.
[20:57] <mohbana> uten: i just want to uninstall konqueror, arora seems fine
[20:57] <mohbana> i remember konqeuror downloading a heep of files
[20:57] <uten> apt-get remove konqueror
[20:58] <mohbana> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 120 not upgraded.
[20:58] <mohbana> which is strange
[20:58] <mohbana> what about the rest of the 32 packages is just installed
[21:02] <fliegenderfrosch> mohbana: in theory you should be able to do a sudo apt-get autoremove afterwards, where it removes the additional libraries
[21:05] <uten> mohbana: auroa uses them? :)
[21:10] <khaije1> hi, is there a clean way to completely switch an install from ubuntu to kubuntu such that there isn't any left over ubuntu packages?
[21:12] <raidenovich> i worked on my /etc/fstab, now it tells me that something is missing at the end of the file.. i dont know the english word but i think it is "tab"
[21:13] <rickest> khaije1: the convention would be
[21:13] <rickest> apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  whether or not that would leave any remnants behind, I don't know
[21:13] <mohbana> how do i get the dependencies of a package on the CL for apt?
[21:14] <rickest> it has to be said that the only way to be sure is a clean install, of course
[21:14] <xp-killer> How do i keep my folder in details option everytime i do back it comes back to "preview view"
[21:15] <rickest> mohbana: aptitude show <pkgname>
[21:15] <rickest> mohbana: or apt-cache depends <pkgname>
[21:16] <rickest> by CL, I assumed you meant CLI
[21:17] <mohbana> last question, can i find out when a package was installed?
[21:17] <mauri> ciao, qualcuno parla italiano?
[21:17] <rickest> not that I know of
[21:17] <rickest> !it
[21:18] <mauri> ok, grazie
[21:20] <mohbana> is there an install log kept by apt or something along those lines
[21:20] <sven_> hello all,how can I add widgets to the panel?
[21:21] <slow-motion> hi
[21:22] <fliegenderfrosch> sven_: afaik this depends on the version you have. with the newer versions you should be able to drag them directly to the panel, at least if the panel is in 'edit mode'
[21:23] <sven_> fliegenderfrosch: I click right to the button, but when i want to drag them to it, it is not working
[21:24] <rickest> mohbana: /var/log/aptitude*, but probably not complete as old logs were rotated out
[21:24] <fliegenderfrosch> sven_: have you clicked on the cashew in the panel before?
[21:24] <fliegenderfrosch> sven_: which kde version do you have anyway?
[21:26] <petra> !wlan
[21:27] <xp-killer> How do i keep my folder in details option everytime i do back it comes back to "preview view"
[21:28] <david_> toosl -> configure dolpin
[21:28] <david_> choose default view there
[21:34] <indystorm> ok so now I got firefox installed but I cannot find the icon
[21:34] <indystorm> how do I get the icon?
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> indystorm: it’s probably somewhere in /usr/share/icons
[21:34] <indystorm> ok
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> indystorm: or rather in /usr/share/pixmaps
[21:36] <fliegenderfrosch> I’ve got a firefox-3.0.png there
[21:36] <hjuyttfrtter> hello
[21:36] <hjuyttfrtter> !list
[21:41] <fasfas3> Hi i've installed kubuntu 8.10 but it seems to be buggy as hell crashes many times back to kdm
[21:42] <fasfas3> many times after right mouse button menu's on systray icons
[21:42] <fasfas3> selecting settings from top menu in apps
[21:43] <fasfas3> i've read about some other people with comparing problems but no solutions
[21:44] <david_> fasfas3: the only thing that can make it crash back to KDM are video drivers
[21:44] <david_> KDE apps don't have the permission to do it if they tried
[21:44] <david_> NVidia I'm guessing?
[21:45] <fliegenderfrosch> fasfas3: 8.10 uses kde 4.1 and kde 4.2 should be out in a few days. this is a lot more stable, so I’d try this before working like hell on solutions
[21:45] <fasfas3> I have nvidia yes
[21:46] <powertool08> Does anyone know how to send a right ctrl signal to vbox over vnc?
[21:46] <fasfas3> but having the same problems under compiz as well
[21:46] <fasfas3> seems to be kde/dbus or something
[21:47] <fasfas3> quite unuseable
[21:47] <fasfas3> the 4.2 beta is somewhat better
[21:49] <fliegenderfrosch> powertool08: some vnc clients have a special function for sending commands
[21:50] <jazgator> After installing Ubunto I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed?
[21:51] <deathoncity> hi all
[21:53] <sven_> hello all, how do I add a hyperlink on the desktop of kubuntu 8.10?
[21:54] <deathoncity> i'm new in linux..i have a new computer  HP and a internal TV card Hauppauge  winTV HVR-1200 model 71xxx hybrid dvb-t no FP and i cannot install his driver in the latest kubuntu
[21:54] <deathoncity> can i have some help please...?.
[22:03] <indystorm> ok so I found that I can type mozilla as a run command and have it start- how do I make a desktop icon for it?
[22:06] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[22:09] <demarco> Any help in the room?
[22:09] <mcrandello> is there a way to manually load a plasmoid widget if it doesn't show in the plasmoid browser?
[22:09] <mcrandello> I built the plasmoid, did a checkinstall, installed the pkg, no errors, not showing in the plasmoid browser after logging out\in, crtl-alt-bksp, or runnig kbuildsyscoca4
[22:10] <mcrandello> the kde guys are awful reticent
[22:10] <mcrandello> maybe the suspect it's the ihatethecashew widget I'm trying to add
[22:10] <cjae> Hi how doI remove dragon player from kubuntu, sudo apt-get purge dragonplayer tries to remove kubuntu-desktop
[22:11] <mcrandello> kubuntu-desktop is what they call a meta pkg I think
[22:11] <cjae> as does the remove option
[22:11] <mcrandello> removing it won't actually remove kde
[22:11] <mcrandello> I don't think
[22:11] <mcrandello> unless it also wants to remove kdebase, then lookout
[22:11] <cjae> ok
[22:11] <cjae> thanks
[22:12] <mcrandello> seriously though this cashew is about to make me start hitting things
[22:12] <EagleScreen> you cannot remove dragonplayer becouse Kubuntu-desktop package depends on it
[22:13] <mgroman> !ohmy mcrandello
[22:13] <mgroman> !ohmy | mcrandello
[22:13] <deathoncity> i'm new in linux..i have a new computer  HP and a internal TV card Hauppauge  winTV HVR-1200 model 71xxx hybrid dvb-t no FP and i cannot install his driver in the latest kubuntu
[22:13] <deathoncity> can i have some help please...?.
[22:13] <cjae> EagleScreen: what are you jokin
[22:13] <deathoncity> pleasee
[22:13] <mcrandello> mgroman, ? I didn't think anyone would literally think I was going to get violent over a computer screen lmao
[22:14] <EagleScreen> deathoncity http://www.linuxtv.org/
[22:15] <EagleScreen> cjae no joke, kubuntu-desktop metapackage depends on dragonplayer, then if you uninstall dragonplayer, you break kubuntu installation by uninstalling lot of useful things, its the kubuntu style
[22:15] <EagleScreen> kubuntu-desktop shuld recommend dragonplayer, and not depends on it
[22:15] <EagleScreen> report a bug against kubuntu-desktop if you consider
[22:16] <cjae> EagleScreen: I just uninstalled it, that can't be right
[22:16] <cjae> so what now
[22:16] <mcrandello> it's fine
[22:16] <cjae> EagleScreen: have you tried to uninstall it
[22:16] <mcrandello> how many packages did it remove
[22:16] <EagleScreen> i am trying now..
[22:17] <mcrandello> apt-cache showpkg kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <cjae> mcrandello:
[22:17] <cjae> he following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:17] <cjae>   dragonplayer* kubuntu-desktop*
[22:17] <cjae> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:17] <cjae> After this operation, 1016kB disk space will be freed.
[22:17] <EagleScreen> it uninstalls kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <mcrandello> which doesn't provide any files
[22:18] <mcrandello> it's just there so you can easily install it from say a normal ubuntu installation
[22:18] <EagleScreen> cjae are you using KDE 4.2?
[22:18] <cjae> the one with 8.10
[22:18] <cjae> ibex
[22:19] <mcrandello> it pulls in all the other packages that it lists in that apt-cache command so they're listed as dependencies but removing the desktop package doesn't remove any of them other than the one you specify
[22:19] <EagleScreen> removal of kubuntu-desktop does not makr for removal other packages, that is good, but is not usually
[22:20] <mcrandello> This I'm not sure on but I think that all the foo-desktop packages in *buntu work that way
[22:20] <EagleScreen> but you may have problems with kuubntu updates if you do not have kubuntu-desktop package installed
[22:21] <cjae> anyone else in this channel have an opinion
[22:21] <jazgator> After installing Ubuntu I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed?
[22:22] <cjae> that would be the stupidest thing I have ever
[22:23] <EagleScreen> cjae the problem is that in some installations, all KDE and kubuntu stuff is installed from kubuntu-desktop package installation, then, if later you remove kubuntu-desktop, then all the other packages are aumatically marked for removal, becouse they were installed to satisfice the kubuntu-desktop dependences
[22:23] <mcrandello> what
[22:24] <EagleScreen> but now that is not the case, i dont know what, kubuntu installation scripts must be changed
[22:25] <cjae> sssssssssssoooooooooo
[22:25] <cjae> I am safe or no
[22:26] <raphink> EagleScreen: are you talking about a kubuntu install or update?
[22:26] <mcrandello> you should be safe, if not copy this down somewhere:
[22:26] <mcrandello> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:26] <mcrandello> problem solved
[22:27] <cjae> if I did that now would it install dragon player again as dependency?
[22:27] <mcrandello> you betcha
[22:27] <cjae> is there a way to install without dependencies in .deb's
[22:28] <mcrandello> that's the whole point of kubuntu-desktop though
[22:28] <mcrandello> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-kde-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[22:28] <EagleScreen> cjae dont worry, you can live without kubuntu-desktop package
[22:28] <cjae> it won't break updates or upgrades
[22:29] <mcrandello> it's mainly there so you can install say a basic system or if you wanted to switch from gnome
[22:29] <mcrandello> that's all
[22:29] <EagleScreen> objective of kubuntu-desktop package is install a new application by default in kubuntu in future versions, but if you dont want them.. you do not need kubuntu-desktop
[22:31] <cjae> ah I see so if down the road iceape is installed default in righteous rihno and I ididn't have kubuntu-desktop installed it would not install iceape
[22:32] <EagleScreen> yes..
[22:32] <cjae> ok
[22:33] <cjae> why does dragon suck so bad
[22:33] <cjae> opps
[22:33] <cjae> sorry
[22:33] <EagleScreen> if Kubuntu Team decides that kpackagekit must be installed by default in kubuntu, then they upload a new version of kubuntu-desktop that depens on or recomends kpackagekit, and when you update kubuntu-dsktop, kpackagekit is installed
[22:35] <cjae> first it had no sound or picture installed xine plugins, then just no sound after reboot had sound, now when watching avi from optical drive it just reads fro whereever on the disc
[22:35] <jazgator> After installing Ubuntu I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed? or is each pack dependent on their own subdirectory file.
[22:36] <cjae> why did they get rid of kaffeine
[22:37] <EagleScreen> becouse kaffeine is a KDE3 application
[22:37] <cjae> of was it totem
[22:37] <cjae> s/of/or
[22:37] <EagleScreen> they are trying to use KDE4 or Qt4 applications
[22:37] <EagleScreen> but you can install kaffeine in kubuntu 8.10
[22:37] <cjae> kaffeine is isn't
[22:37] <cjae> it
[22:38]  * cjae appologizes for bad typing
[22:38] <EagleScreen> 8.10 has other KDE3 apps installed as amarok, k3b, konvrsation..
[22:38] <EagleScreen> kaffeine was the default vodeo player in previous Kubuntu releases
[22:38] <cjae> oh I see
[22:39] <EagleScreen> a KDE4 version of kaffeine is under construction
[22:40] <cjae> who decides this stuff - "well we have good player but lets put a buggy one in the new kde release for giggles"
[22:40] <cjae> can't read iso's and such
[22:41] <QContinueum> you could always go back and use the last LTS
[22:41] <cjae> right
[22:41] <EagleScreen> cjae just install kaffeine if you want
[22:42] <cjae> right
[22:43] <cjae> hey how do I say get a network list for all the irc networks in konversation, like in xchat without having to manually find all of them and add them?
[22:45] <cjae> EagleScreen: since I have plenty of space should I reinstall dragon? cause I might down the road want to install gnome or xfce (or does it matter)
[22:46] <cjae> that way
[22:46] <cjae> I just didn't want to have such a buggy app on my system
[22:48] <EagleScreen> cjae is a good idea to have kubuntu-desktop installed perhaps you have to install dragonplayer, if you do not like it, do not use it, it is simple
[22:48] <cjae> right but doesn't having buggy apps create security problems
[22:49] <EagleScreen> do not be paranoic, dragonplayer won't destoy your system lol
[22:49] <cjae> ok
[22:50] <cjae> EagleScreen: did you see my other question?
[22:51] <EagleScreen> yes, but i have no idea
[22:52] <cjae> can I just maybe get the network list from xchat like in its install files and copy it to konversation
[22:55] <cjae> when I install dragon player it does not install kubuntu-desltop
[22:57] <cjae> wait it does install dragon player when I install desktop though ...sigh
[22:57] <cjae> thanks for the help
[23:03] <jimtucker> does anyone know if Ubuntu has C compiling capabilities?  like gcc
[23:09] <trappist> jimtucker: of course!  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:10] <Progz> Is there a special name in the "Start" Menu for Azureus or Vuze because after installation it's not there at all
[23:10] <LinuxHack3r> I figured it'd be a great idea to delete everything out of my menu that I don't need. How can I get into the kcontrol equivalent in kde4 from terminal?
[23:11] <marcel> how much memory i need on the disk for full instalation of kubutu (including C, C++ sources) ?
[23:11] <marcel> now i have 20GB . It's enough ?
[23:12] <LinuxHack3r> KDE settings?
[23:12] <LinuxHack3r> How to get there?
[23:12] <noaXess> is it better to wait for 4.2 or os kde 4.2 rc1 stable now?
[23:18] <myselftion> hola
[23:18] <myselftion> hay alguien?
[23:18] <myselftion> dios hace años que no entro en irc, ni siquiera recuerdo comandos basicos (como el de cambiar el nick :S)
[23:19] <Progz> ./nick ;p
[23:19] <myselftion> #linares
[23:19] <myselftion> jaja
[23:19] <myselftion> thanks!
[23:19] <myselftion> ups sorry por lo del canal
[23:19] <myselftion> no lo hice a drede
[23:20] <myselftion> alguien que este familiarizado con kubuntu?
[23:21] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[23:22] <myselftion> that's cause you've to change the resolution
[23:22] <myselftion> jado !
[23:22] <Jado> myselftion ?
[23:23] <myselftion> never mind
[23:23] <myselftion> bye!
[23:23] <Jado> bye
[23:24] <Brasil> hi guys
[23:25] <marcel> how much memory i need on the disk for full instalation of kubutu (including C, C++ sources) ?
[23:25] <Brasil> #ubuntu
[23:26] <marcel> i use kubuntu
[23:27] <Brasil> guys
[23:27] <Brasil> im using kurumin ng and im from brasil but i dont know
[23:28] <Brasil> any chanel from brasil
[23:29] <Skii> hey ppl's
[23:30] <Skii> I was woundering something and maybe someone can help me out with my problem that i am haveing so here it gose
[23:30] <Skii> i would like to put avi to mpeg in linux but i don't know how to, can someone help me out?
[23:35] <Stathis`> hey all
[23:39] <Axis-> $clan
[23:44] <wesley_> Skii there are converters for it, ffmpeg can handle it
[23:45] <wesley_> Don´t know precise which on, avidemux can you use
[23:45] <cjae> Hi I am using kde 4.x and nvidia twinview can I add panels to the tv out of is just for full screen movies and such as I have a 1080p plasma and like to sit on couch and surf
[23:46] <cjae> or must I use separate X server screens?
[23:46] <wesley_> You can put most times on your pc to your tv
[23:48] <cjae> someone directed me here from #ubuntu saying that panels on your tv is possible with twinview but I can't for the life of me figure it out
[23:48] <cjae> I can see the windows on the tv that I drag there