[15:08] <_MMA_> thorwil: I tell you, Sebastian is a machine. Though I'm a little sad more people aren't participating.
[15:18] <kwwii> _MMA_: my experience has been that only one or two people will be very active...there simply is a lack of talented icon artists willing to spend much time on OSS
[15:20] <_MMA_> kwwii: Oh I know. I woulda liked at least 1 more person. Maybe a push after we have a little more of a set together might get someone. I think putting a release on GNOME-Look might help.
[15:34] <kwwii> give it some time, I am sure others will follow
[15:37] <_MMA_> kwwii: I gotta do a little more to get the word out. I've been kinda unmotivated because of stress to do anything other than maintain BZR and the wiki. But I gotta do some more promotion soon.
[15:38] <kwwii> _MMA_: yeah, I know that feeling
[15:38] <kwwii> but getting more word out would be a good idea
[15:39] <kwwii> not sure how easy that it though
[15:40] <_MMA_> I think throwing a release up on GNOME-Look soon would start to help. Put in a little README about getting involved.
[15:41] <kwwii> very good idea
[16:45] <thorwil> if it was only a lack of talented artists. too many fail at basic communication :>
[16:45] <thorwil> kwwii: what's the plan regarding alpha wallpapers now?
[17:17] <kwwii> thorwil: there is still some discussion...bascially it boils down to a question of whether we will use a mascot on the final wallpaper or not
[17:17] <kwwii> thorwil: I had meetings today about just this, expect more info in the next two days or so
[17:19] <thorwil> kwwii: ok. i would treat wallpapers for alpha and final as entirely separated concerns, but that's just me, apparently
[17:19] <kwwii> thorwil: right, the point is that we don't want to use a mascot on the alpha wallpaper if we are going to use one with a mascot in the final
[17:20] <kwwii> and we don't want to start asking for final wallpapers until we have a decent design brief
[17:20] <thorwil> wow, a brief! it happens!
[17:20] <thorwil> :)
[17:44] <kwwii> well, let's wait and see what we comes before we get our hopes up ;)
[17:44] <kwwii> -we
[18:54] <darkmatter> http://leuchtstoff.deviantart.com/art/overlay-eye-candy-no-function-97746451 -- neat
[18:56] <_MMA_> darkmatter: Interesting. Would be a kinda neat screensaver. (not that it would save the screen much)
[18:57] <darkmatter> _MMA_: not even the screensaver.. just as an overlay is nice.. make's thinkgs seem less virtual/more real
[18:58] <_MMA_> I said screensaver because I feel it would be a bit distracting as anything else. Just my POV.
[19:00] <darkmatter> as presented.. probably.. but it's the basic idea that's appealing
[19:01] <darkmatter> not the actual pattern
[19:01] <_MMA_> sure
[19:02] <_MMA_> I'm *postitve* Compiz can handle something like this.
[19:09] <darkmatter> so. you have a wallpaper that has nice ambiance with well defined 'zones', have an overlay that matches, but if a window moves into that zone 'could add a 'zoom' effect for unfocused to create the illusion od slightly increased distance from focused), any shadows cast would ovelay the unfocused windows in the zones
[19:09] <darkmatter> it's just another way (purely graphical) to make the interface feel like a physical object
[22:11] <kwwii> re
[22:12]  * _MMA_ waves
[22:35] <primes2h> kwwii: Hello, are you there?
[22:35] <primes2h> :-)
[22:59] <kwwii> primes2h: hi
[23:01] <kwwii> hey _MMA_
[23:01] <kwwii> just uploaded some old stuff I did with the company I founded 12+ years ago
[23:01] <kwwii> kinda funny looking at it now
[23:01] <_MMA_> :)
[23:01] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/mbavi.avi
[23:01] <_MMA_> kwwii: I'm helping Julian get set up on LP. https://launchpad.net/levelhead
[23:02] <kwwii> and http://sinecera.de/Popstar_Compare.mpg
[23:02] <kwwii> hehe
[23:03] <kwwii> wow, that looks neat
[23:03] <primes2h> kwwii: Hi, I made a patch for this bug #172353
[23:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 172353 in human-icon-theme "Human theme has non-translatable emblem names." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172353
[23:04] <primes2h> This is the debdiff http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/107953/
[23:04] <kwwii> primes2h: yeah, I saw that email, didn't read it though
[23:04] <kwwii> what is the point?
[23:04] <primes2h> Could you please have a look?
[23:04] <primes2h> hubuntu-icon-theme doesn't have translation support for emblems...
[23:04] <kwwii> primes2h: looks like a no-brainer to me
[23:05] <primes2h> human sorry
[23:05] <kwwii> just adding the right po files
[23:05] <kwwii> well, pot files
[23:05] <kwwii> sometimes I wish other people had write acces to this stuff :p
[23:05] <_MMA_> hehe
[23:05] <kwwii> it would save me a lot of work
[23:05] <primes2h> no, It's not that simple.
[23:05] <kwwii> hrm?
[23:06] <primes2h> I had to create .icon.in files, change mMakefile.am in scalable/emblems/ and obviously POTFILES.in
[23:06] <primes2h> I followed gnome-icon-theme structure...
[23:07] <primes2h> It has translation for emblems...
[23:07] <kwwii> primes2h: it is shortly after 0:00 here, I will look at this tomorrow, ok?
[23:07] <kwwii> I am dead in the water, atm
[23:07] <primes2h> ok! Thanks fo now :-)
[23:07] <kwwii> if it works and is correct, I think it is a good idea
[23:08] <primes2h> Ok, but I would like you to have a look.. ;-)
[23:08] <primes2h> there is also a strange thing happened, but I'll ask you tomorrow..
[23:09] <primes2h> I'm not used in packaging, patches etc...
[23:09] <primes2h> yet
[23:10] <primes2h> I'm leaving, see you tomorrow.. thanks... :-)
[23:45] <kwwii> oh well, time for sleep
[23:45] <kwwii> night