[02:34] fta: Accepted sqlite3 3.6.10-1 (source all amd64) [02:34] I hope you enjoy it :) === onestone__ is now known as onestone === hggdh is now known as hggdh|away === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:13] hi everyone [08:13] seb128: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gnome-games/ubuntu [08:14] lut didrocks, ok thanks [08:14] sorry for the time taken for this. I will have more time from now [08:14] helo gents [08:14] plop crevette [08:15] thanks seb128 for the hard work you did this night [08:15] salut didrocks === bluesmoke_ is now known as bluesmoke [08:19] grrrr jaunty, laptop frozen again [08:20] if somebody was saying something to me please say it again [08:20] seb128_: I don't remember who (^^) told me yesterday that it's time for me to upgrade to jaunty :) [08:20] ;-) === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [08:33] seb128, frezes happen under which circonstances ? [08:34] crevette: usually after switching between users [08:34] ah [08:34] I remember I had some too, and my gf told she had some [08:35] I had also freezes when doing some intensive network I/O [08:35] but perhaps it is more tied the network driver [08:36] I don't think I've issues to io load [08:37] didrocks: what was this bzr url for gnome-games? my jaunty crashed [08:38] Good morning [08:38] hey pitti! [08:38] "its thursday" [08:38] * Tm_T hides [08:38] seb128: it will be the futur url where mvo update desktop team bzr branch, normally [08:38] morning pitti ! [08:39] didrocks: ? [08:39] seb128: oh, no the one in control, but the url I gave you? [08:39] didrocks: I ask you to repeat what you wrote before because my laptop and IRC crashed before I used it ;-) [08:39] sorry, someone is speaking to me and my head get into trouble :) [08:40] seb128: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gnome-games/ubuntu [08:40] didrocks: I was going to ask if you can walk and talk in the same time but huats is not around so there is no point make a such joke ;-) [08:40] didrocks: thanks ;-) [08:41] seb128: :-p [08:41] hopefully huats is not using irssi, so, you will not repeat that, don't you? ;) [08:43] hum "do you?" is better [08:43] ? [08:43] * didrocks is seeing is Enligsh getting worse and worse since I came back from Ireland :( [08:43] his\ [08:43] his* [08:44] didrocks, hopefully I can't notice you irish accent when I read you :) [08:44] your* [08:45] you can notice his french accent though ;-) [08:46] seb128: you're an evil person, you know :-) [08:46] !!! [08:47] didrocks: no I'm not ;-) [08:47] seb128: and you had to quit/come back to this chan 3 times to be sure of that? ;) [08:49] didrocks: 3 times? I just closed IRC to show that's not how you talk to people there ;-) [08:49] coffee time ^^ [08:49] didrocks: anyway reviewing your changes now [08:49] didrocks: why did you drop the desktop path change? [08:50] (one sec, searching for reference) [08:50] didrocks: we usually don't update the standards-version in ubuntu, that creates unrequired diff over debian [08:51] seb128: but gnome package are splitted between ubuntu and debian, aren't they? [08:51] didrocks: what do you mean splitted? we rebase our packaging on theirs every now and then [08:51] and the standards-version means you verified everything conforms to the current standards [08:52] which we usually don't bother doing [08:52] seb128: ok, I thought that gnome packages were never synced [08:52] seb128: and yes, I verified the changes :-) [08:52] ok, good then but that's usually a detail and we don't bother [08:52] but ok, that's not necessary, I know it now [08:53] for the patch, I have read somewhere that the best pratice was not to use full path [08:53] but I was wrong reading http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html [08:53] /usr/games is in the path, why providing a full path? [08:54] didrocks: otherwise [08:54] $ diff -u gnome-games-2.24.1.1/configure.in build-area/gnome-games-2.25.5/configure.in | grep DBUS [08:54] +DBUS_GLIB_REQUIRED=0.75 [08:55] didrocks: you didn't add this build depends [08:55] my bad, correct :/ [08:56] didrocks: in fact it seems to be only required when building with the theme installer option [08:56] so not a bug ;-) [08:56] seb128: I do not have the configure.in (not access to my branch actually), let me take a look, one sec [08:57] didrocks: to know why changes are there usually read the debian changelog [08:57] didrocks: [08:58] * desktop-path.patch: added, uses absolute paths for .desktop files [08:58] (closes: #236618). [08:58] debian bug #236618 [08:58] Debian bug 236618 in gnome-games "gnome-games: menu entries unusable if /usr/games not on path" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/236618 [08:59] seb128: ok, I note that in my todo. I was unsure of this change and was relying on my sponsor :) [08:59] ;-) [08:59] didrocks: otherwise good work [08:59] so, diff in configure.in and always read the changelog, again :) [08:59] I'm test building it now [09:00] seb128: I would prefer it has been perfect, but well... :/ [09:00] (ok, I see in configure.in) [09:01] lut huats [09:01] hello huats [09:01] hey seb128 [09:01] huats: c'est à cette heure là qu'on arrive au boulot? ;-) [09:01] how are you ? [09:01] good thanks [09:01] you? [09:01] morning everyone too :) [09:01] seb128: LOL [09:01] good too [09:01] seb128: it's very early for him, now, you know? :) [09:02] I just get connected now there is a small difference ;) [09:02] (small I admit) [09:02] (but I was working late yesterday on my daywork...) [09:02] huats: time to boot? :-) [09:02] so he's basically starting at 10, reading mails for an hour, going for lunch, coming back at 15, doing some IRC and ubuntu work and then going for dinner? [09:02] seb128: are you in the same office than me ? [09:02] ;) [09:03] ;-) [09:03] seb128: except that you forgot the various planet reading [09:03] :p [09:03] heh [09:03] I knew it, there was no scheduled time for ubuntu-fr! :-p [09:04] seb128: the new gnome-keyring stuff FTBFS again (caused by the LDFLAGS like the previous time...) [09:04] seb128: I'll see what I can do about it... [09:04] huats: anyway, jokes aside it's sponsoring time, hand the packages you had to update for today [09:04] seb128: I will [09:04] ;-) [09:04] huats: the previous change doesn't apply this time? [09:05] seb128: nope. [09:05] I have to see if I can do some stuffs... [09:06] seb128: I have something to do for my daywork right now [09:06] huats: just mail upstream [09:06] huats: ok, no hurry, good work [09:06] but I'll will do my packages today :) [09:06] and sure I'll mail upstream :) [09:07] didrocks: another trick to learn for you [09:07] didrocks: [09:07] $ dh_install --list-missing [09:07] dh_install: usr/share/gnome-games-common/theme-install.ini exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere [09:07] didrocks: new file which should be installed in a binary and is not [09:24] huats, fta: btw libsqlite 3.6 has been uploaded to debian yesterday [09:25] seb128: THANKS ! [09:25] huats: I didn't do it, I just noticed the upload ;-) [09:25] thanks anyway :) [09:26] seb128: since there is DIF, I think I need to write something to ask for the inclusion... [09:27] I'll have a look then (later today after the uploads seb128 :)) [09:27] huats: you need a sync request bug and subscribe the sponsor team to the bug [09:30] seb128: ok thanks [10:08] seb128: sorry, I was in a meeting [10:08] dh_install --list-missing, ok, noted [10:09] can I fix the package this evening? [10:09] yes [10:11] seb128: ok, I will try to add an extra stuff so that you would forgive me for this bad update :-) [10:11] ;-) [10:11] there is no problem don't worry! [10:11] pitti: looks like the liferea update is flawed :( [10:12] pitti: I'll investigate this later (have an exam in 50 minutes). Do we need to do anything special? It's not in -updates yet. [10:13] pochu: please follow up on the bug report and tag it regression-proposed [10:13] pochu: exam> oh, good luck with it! [10:15] pitti: it's an English exam, so will be ok :) [10:16] ok, tagged [10:32] crevette: why did you change the nautilus-sendto description? we usually try to not change debian descriptions when not required, that creates delta over debian and that breaks translations === asac_ is now known as asac [10:33] seb128, ah sorry, I wanted to update the description with regards to new functions added, and about generic support of IM [10:33] later I dropped the description of upnp but I kept the IM part because it sounded me valuable [10:34] crevette: well, there is no real changes since we don't use universe components so it still use the same set [10:34] I can propose a new description for debian so [10:35] well, the issue is that I don't think your description bring a lot ;-) [10:35] "sending files to accounts in an Evolution email [10:35] - address book, contacts on a Pidgin or Gajim instant messaging list, [10:35] - through Thunderbird, or through Claws Mail (formerly Sylpheed Claws)." [10:36] changed to [10:36] "sending files to various components, as an attachement [10:36] + in a mail in evolution, Thunderbird, or Claws Mail, or to the contacts of various [10:36] + instant messaging client. [10:36] " [10:36] that's not that different [10:36] Gajim \o/ [10:36] lol [10:36] it was better with the UPNP and the other thing I forgot [10:38] :) [10:38] anyway I won't be angy if you drp it [10:40] crevette: ok, I'll drop it for now [10:40] angry [10:40] my "R" is blocked :) [11:01] seb128: AFAIR we had a bug tag which said "that's a good thing to work on for new interested people" [11:01] seb128: do you happen to remember that? [11:02] pitti: launchpad has a builtin option to say you would sponsor work on the bug, you can use that [11:02] pitti: otherwise there is bitesize for small changes [11:02] bitesize! that was it, merci! [11:03] you're welcome [12:36] mvo: any reason why jaunty-codec-install isnt targetted for jaunty? [12:40] mvo: I assume gnome-codec-install integrate properly with gstreamer? e.g. gnash will still work too? [13:26] asac: hey :) is it possible to thread messages in TB by "reply-to"? I'm looking at making threads useful in my launchpad bug-mail folder, and by subject is not an option as Launchpad mangles it [13:26] reply-to would work as it's bug specific, e.g. "Reply-To: Bug 247040 <247040@bugs.launchpad.net>" [13:26] Launchpad bug 247040 in gst-plugins-good0.10 "totem-gstreamer crashed with SIGSEGV in theora_decode_packetin()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247040 [13:27] (does anybody else have a working solution for this?) [13:28] pochu: doesnt tbird look at "References: "? [13:28] pochu: use evolution? ;-) [13:28] seb128: I tried :-) but I had a few issues... [13:28] I've moved 2 out of 3 accounts to Evo though [13:28] but they don't have hundreds of mails a day ;) [13:28] evolution blocked on lack of evolution ;) (just kidding) [13:29] heh [13:29] asac: hmm, not sure, let me try [13:30] asac: yeah, it should just work fine [13:31] asac: updated (targeted for jaunty now) [13:31] asac: looks like it doesn't [13:31] asac: but thanks. will continue later, lunch now :) [13:32] pochu: i have huge bug folders in tbird as its just rocking fast searching stuff and so on ... never noticed any bad threading issues [13:32] pochu: but i am using shredder (thunderbird-3.0 package from ~fta +archive) ... maybe try that .. otherwise we should figure whats wrong and file bug [13:34] seb128: I have worked on updating the bzr desktop team page. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bzr). If you don't like it, you can revert :) [13:37] didrocks: thank you, looking [13:39] didrocks: good work, that's clear and detailled ;-) we will probably tweak the workflow a bit but that's a good start [13:40] especially it would be nice to automate some of the testing or configure changes listing, etc [13:40] seb128: hope that can provide some help to others :) [13:40] that will [13:41] hum, I thought about removing debian/control from bzr [13:41] as it is generated by debian/control.in in "rules clean" [13:41] does this make sense? [13:41] I would not really bother [13:41] but I would not bother making sure it's uptodate either [13:42] it is just because I think this is a source of mistake for new contributors [13:44] I admit I was mistaken several time [13:45] seb128: I wanted to add some tricks for quilt + autotools (apply it one time, see which files are changed with find . -amin .. -type f > file and then make a quilt add ...). But this has to be in the packagingguide, hasn't it? [13:47] seb128: hm, I'm trying to get --short-docs to work (starting to work on bug 123035) [13:47] Launchpad bug 123035 in gnome-app-install "make installing games more easier" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123035 [13:47] $ LANG= gconftool --short-docs /apps/drivemount-applet/prefs [13:47] No schema known for `/apps/drivemount-applet/prefs' [13:47] bug 123025, of course [13:47] Launchpad bug 123025 in gconf2 "stop shipping static gconf translations, use gettext at runtime" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123025 [13:49] hm, I get the same error with gconf-editor [13:51] seb128: ok, nevermind; works with /apps/baobab/ui/toolbar_visible [14:02] http://blogs.gnome.org/mortenw/2009/01/21/the-gtk-file-chooser-dialog/ [14:02] I've seen that myself many times [14:03] re [14:04] pitti: sorry I was fighting the new gdm on my laptop and not looking at IRC [14:04] seb128: no problem, all set [14:04] didrocks: could be useful there too [14:04] seb128: I'm pretty surprised that gconf-schemas is a debianism; /var/lib/gconf/defaults/ doesn't look like being used from upstream? [14:04] seb128: ok. I will put a note about it [14:05] pitti: no, they use /etc/gconf/schemas by default but using etc is against the debian policy [14:10] Keybuk, this is fixed in gtk 2.15.x [14:11] Keybuk, however I think patching libgtk for intrepid would be nice, because I was upset by this bug [14:12] it doesn't happen every time [14:12] it's only cosmetic, the change is not trivial and intrepid is not a lts [14:12] seb128, yeah, in epi it happen 2nd time I need filechooser [14:12] ie I doubt it'll be backported if there is not somebody interested doing the work [14:15] crevette: what was the bug? [14:15] I figured it had something to do with compiz? [14:15] no at all [14:15] this is the codre of filechooser [14:15] code [14:15] oh right [14:15] the reason I figured it had something do with compiz is that when it's appeared [14:15] it appears at that size [14:16] Keybuk: it's federico who did too much code simplication when cleaning the code some time ago [14:16] but the file chooser is being rendered normally [14:16] just at 1/2 scale [14:16] the upstream bug is closed now as federico commit new code to fix that [14:16] all the text, buttons, widgets are half the size [14:16] then it refreshes to be normal scale, half the window size [14:16] bug #285285 [14:16] Launchpad bug 285285 in gtk+2.0 "GtkFileChooser dialog size randomly broken" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285285 [14:16] gnome bug #558776 [14:16] Gnome bug 558776 in GtkFileChooser "Filechooser size sometimes too small" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558776 [14:39] mvo, hello, would you please upload packagekit and packagekit-gnome 0.3.13? [14:39] glatzor: sure [14:40] glatzor: what is the current lp branch name? [14:41] glatzor: lp:~packagekit/pakcagekit/ubuntu-packagekit ? [14:41] 0.3.13-0ubvuntu1? [14:42] mvo, correct. [14:43] glatzor: ok, I fix the changelog and upload then (sitll has UNRELEASED in it) [14:44] mvo, i thought only the uploader should change the distro [14:45] glatzor: yeah, I never was so strict about that [14:45] glatzor: its fine, I just wanted to make sure there is no left over commit or anything === hggdh|away is now known as hggdh [14:50] mvo, is there an easy way to keep configuration for packges in debian/ but not build them? [14:51] glatzor: how do you mean? could could have a debian/rules.not-active in the source for example that would work [14:52] mvo, if packagekit wants to go into main I should not build some of the more obscure packages, e.g the yum and smart backend, mozilla plugin, gstreamer installer [14:53] glatzor: that should be fine, those stuff can still go to universe [14:53] glatzor: and just packagekit itself goes to main [14:53] mvo, are there any modifications required in the packaging? or is this an archive admin job? [14:54] glatzor: no modifications required, that is purely a archive thing (well, aisde from a MainInclusionReport) [14:54] glatzor: I guess riddell will write that anyway, no? [14:54] mvo, right. [14:55] how is the qt frontend shaping up? [14:55] asac: it only happens with the [NEW] mails, the rest are correctly threaded it seems [14:56] mvo, you can install it from the ppa. it seems to work. [14:56] pochu: ah. yeah. those are even misthreaded in mutt [14:56] pochu: definitly a launchpad prob imo [14:56] mvo, it seems that suse picks up packagekit seriously [14:58] asac: hmm, also when the summary is changed (and thus the subject changes) it starts a new thread [14:59] glatzor: in what sense? what backend do they use with it? the yast one? [14:59] mvo, zyppy [15:00] asac: but References seems to be correctly set [15:04] asac: I will try to update to TB 3 and see how it behaves [15:04] asac: thanks for the heads up :) [15:06] glatzor: how useful is the yum backend on a ubuntu system? [15:06] s/heads up/advice/ [15:07] glatzor, mvo, is the packagekit better with deb distro now than few months ago ? [15:08] I thought it tested it last summer [15:08] crevette, which issues did you encounter? [15:09] for instance after refreshing the list of updated packages in pkgkit, it won't see the packages to update [15:10] and I had various errors message with dbus and locking I believe [15:17] crevette, the first one is fixed [15:18] crevette, please write a bug report, if you see the error messages again [15:20] glatzor, okay I'll give it a try, I installed just few days to try it, but I removed it quickly [15:20] mvo, the yum backend is only build because there is yum in Debian :) [15:21] mvo, I use it for testing sometimes. [15:21] mvo, but indeed it is confusing. [15:22] mvo, I will remove the yum backend on the next upload. or is the upload still pending? [15:27] glatzor: just uploaded it, I don't really mind the backend, I was just curious :) [15:46] hiya [15:46] does anybody know where seb128 is? [15:46] hey dholbach [15:46] happy new year [15:46] crevette: and the same to you! [15:46] seb128_ est parti (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [15:46] he's supposed to give a session in #ubuntu-classroom in 14m :) [15:46] perhaps he lost its internet access [15:47] aaah [15:47] SEB128! [15:47] Pushing out GNOME releases to millions of users! [15:47] hey dholbach [15:47] seb128, ping, good morning and another difference on EDS trunk has surfaced [15:47] dholbach: , yeah, still 10 minutes right? [15:47] seb128: yep, all the time in the world [15:47] hggdh: hi, which one? [15:47] seb128: dholbach just began to worry :) [15:47] didrocks: trying to get the new gdm to work [15:47] seb128, libical is now an external depends [15:48] so lot's of session restart, not worth starting IRC between [15:48] hggdh: right I noticed they were working on that [15:48] current libical we ship is 0.33, eds requires 0.43 [15:48] seb128: good luck, seems to be a hard stuff (I looked at the it a little bit, following the desktop team meeting) [15:48] we will need to update, version updates are not really an issue [15:48] didrocks: thanks [15:49] OK, will open an upgrade request [16:00] seb128, done [16:01] hggdh: what is done? [16:01] sorry got a presentation starting now ;-) [16:02] seb128, the upgrade request for libical === crevette_ is now known as crevette [17:05] hggdh: re, sorry I got sidetracked by the presentation on the other channel [17:06] hggdh: did you open the request to debian or on launchpad or both? [17:09] pochu: thanks for forwarding the questions between the channels === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [17:17] seb128: yw [17:22] seb128: I think we don't ship upstream *.scores and use the ones provided by postinst? [17:26] didrocks: right [17:50] hello [17:52] hey gents [17:52] seb128, just in LP right now [17:52] do you have some tarball I can package [17:52] hggdh: he left [17:53] crevette, just noticed... thanks [17:54] I take vinagre / vino if you don't care [17:54] ember: thatnks for your brasero update, I'm happy to sponsor it [18:16] Nafallo: there? [18:17] didrocks: hi [18:17] Hi :) [18:17] question: if an updated version of a package exists in Debian, and there are no local changes, is this an upgrade or sync request? [18:17] Nafallo: I am looking for adding lpi to a python software. I saw there used to be one for gajim and I cherrypicked it [18:18] Nafallo: but in 0.12~beta1-0ubuntu1 you dropped it. And I wonder why :) [18:19] (away for half an hour, but I will read your answer then ;)) [18:20] hggdh: if there are no Ubuntu changes, then it would be a sync [18:20] asomething, thanks, I will correct the bug I opened [18:27] didrocks: cause we didn't use it at all. just added complexity I didn't need. [18:27] didrocks: i.e. the stuff was there, but we didn't use LP as the lp-integration was supposed to be used. [18:28] Nafallo: ok. this is not because of lpi no more supported for python in jaunty (I was afraid of that :)) [18:28] Nafallo: thanks a lot for your answer [18:28] didrocks: no worries. [18:36] So I just wasted two hours looking to see what KDE and GNOME do differently when changing cursor themes that would make compiz update the cursors in KDE but not in GNOME [18:37] Turns out kde-window-decorator checks for these changes and updates itself, compiz never updates it's two visible cursors [18:37] *sigh* [18:38] And kde-window-decorator seems to update these cursors every time you move your mouse (!) [18:43] mvo: The fullscreen stacking fixes patch should be in git now, btw [18:43] working on the cursor theme one now === pochu_ is now known as pochu [19:31] so no webkit for 2.26 [19:35] \o/ [20:22] you rock Amaranth [20:36] I update epiphany [20:41] mvo: Do you know if any of the drivers that support compiz still default to XAA? I'm a bit out of the loop there [20:41] I know intel defaults to EXA, what about ati? [20:44] Amaranth: -ati in jaunty uses exa, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/269357 [20:44] Launchpad bug 269357 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[Needs EXA] Video playback failes with compiz enabled" [High,Fix released] [20:46] Amaranth: I don't know, #ubuntu-x will know for sure [20:47] seb128: hi, bratche was looking for you on {gnome-hackers [20:47] crevette: hello, you know why? [20:47] no [20:55] damn I wondered why my sponsor request for vinagre was still no pushed... dumb em as usual [20:57] mvo: Ok, since intel and ati both use exa we can probably drop that first patch [20:58] mvo: the one that sets the _COMPIZ_GL_INCLUDE_INFERIORS or whatever [21:05] Amaranth: fine with me, its a devel release, people will yell if it breaks something :) [21:08] seb128: I have reworked on (and hopefully fixed) gnome-games: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gnome-games/ubuntu [21:09] and for bonus point, I added LPI to glchess and gnome-sudoku (python games) :) [21:09] didrocks: excellent [21:12] seb128: Hi, when you get a chance, could you take a look at bug #319400 [21:12] Launchpad bug 319400 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] evolution-mapi " [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319400 [21:12] asomething: hey, I read it and planned to comment but that has been a busy day, I need to ping the server team about the openchange and samba syncs [21:13] e-d-s and evo need to be updated to 2.25, did you do that? are you interested to work on those updates? [21:13] we might wait for next tarballs to upload though because they screwed a soname which is fixed in svn now [21:13] seb128: i just built them locally [21:13] they had some configure version lower in 2.25 compared to 2.24 [21:14] let me know if you are interest by doing the 2.25 jaunty updates, that would be welcome, I'm already quite busy on other things and keep delaying those [21:15] seb128: the openchange and samba syncs also aren't essential, but my real issues is that compile problem mentioned in the report [21:15] seb128: I can handle one or two tomorrow if that can help [21:16] asomething: I need to ask upstream or the server team about that [21:16] asomething: I'll update the bug tomorrow it's late for them now [21:17] seb128: great, thanks [21:17] thank you for your work ;-) [21:18] seb128: I finished to put the vinagre update from 2 weeks ago in lp and I did the vino update of today [21:19] crevette: thanks [21:21] bah, so little work [21:21] not a problem :) [21:26] seb128: i can't commit to doing the e-d-s/evo upgrades right now, i'll check in tomorrow and can probably take them if no one else wants to [21:27] seb128: libgweather will have to get updated for them, i just disabled it when building locally [21:27]