[02:34] <pochu> fta: Accepted sqlite3 3.6.10-1 (source all amd64)
[02:34] <pochu> I hope you enjoy it :)
[08:13] <didrocks> hi everyone
[08:13] <didrocks> seb128: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gnome-games/ubuntu
[08:14] <seb128> lut didrocks, ok thanks
[08:14] <didrocks> sorry for the time taken for this. I will have more time from now
[08:14] <crevette> helo gents
[08:14] <didrocks> plop crevette
[08:15] <crevette> thanks seb128 for the hard work you did this night
[08:15] <crevette> salut didrocks
[08:19] <seb128_> grrrr jaunty, laptop frozen again
[08:20] <seb128_> if somebody was saying something to me please say it again
[08:20] <didrocks> seb128_: I don't remember who (^^) told me yesterday that it's time for me to upgrade to jaunty :)
[08:20] <seb128_> ;-)
[08:33] <crevette> seb128, frezes happen under which circonstances ?
[08:34] <seb128> crevette: usually after switching between users
[08:34] <crevette> ah
[08:34] <crevette> I remember I had some too, and my gf told she had some
[08:35] <crevette> I had also freezes when doing some intensive network I/O
[08:35] <crevette> but perhaps it is more tied the network driver
[08:36] <seb128> I don't think I've issues to io load
[08:37] <seb128> didrocks: what was this bzr url for gnome-games? my jaunty crashed
[08:38] <pitti> Good morning
[08:38] <seb128> hey pitti!
[08:38] <Tm_T> "its thursday"
[08:38]  * Tm_T hides
[08:38] <didrocks> seb128: it will be the futur url where mvo update desktop team bzr branch, normally
[08:38] <didrocks> morning pitti !
[08:39] <seb128> didrocks: ?
[08:39] <didrocks> seb128: oh, no the one in control, but the url I gave you?
[08:39] <seb128> didrocks: I ask you to repeat what you wrote before because my laptop and IRC crashed before I used it ;-)
[08:39] <didrocks> sorry, someone is speaking to me and my head get into trouble :)
[08:40] <didrocks> seb128: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gnome-games/ubuntu
[08:40] <seb128> didrocks: I was going to ask if you can walk and talk in the same time but huats is not around so there is no point make a such joke ;-)
[08:40] <seb128> didrocks: thanks ;-)
[08:41] <didrocks> seb128: :-p
[08:41] <didrocks> hopefully huats is not using irssi, so, you will not repeat that, don't you? ;)
[08:43] <didrocks> hum "do you?" is better
[08:43] <Tm_T> ?
[08:43]  * didrocks is seeing is Enligsh getting worse and worse since I came back from Ireland :(
[08:43] <didrocks> his\
[08:43] <didrocks> his*
[08:44] <crevette> didrocks, hopefully I can't notice you irish accent when I read you :)
[08:44] <crevette> your*
[08:45] <seb128> you can notice his french accent though ;-)
[08:46] <didrocks> seb128: you're an evil person, you know :-)
[08:46] <seb128> !!!
[08:47] <seb128> didrocks: no I'm not ;-)
[08:47] <didrocks> seb128: and you had to quit/come back to this chan 3 times to be sure of that? ;)
[08:49] <seb128> didrocks: 3 times? I just closed IRC to show that's not how you talk to people there ;-)
[08:49] <didrocks> coffee time ^^
[08:49] <seb128> didrocks: anyway reviewing your changes now
[08:49] <seb128> didrocks: why did you drop the desktop path change?
[08:50] <didrocks> (one sec, searching for reference)
[08:50] <seb128> didrocks: we usually don't update the standards-version in ubuntu, that creates unrequired diff over debian
[08:51] <didrocks> seb128: but gnome package are splitted between ubuntu and debian, aren't they?
[08:51] <seb128> didrocks: what do you mean splitted? we rebase our packaging on theirs every now and then
[08:51] <seb128> and the standards-version means you verified everything conforms to the current standards
[08:52] <seb128> which we usually don't bother doing
[08:52] <didrocks> seb128: ok, I thought that gnome packages were never synced
[08:52] <didrocks> seb128: and yes, I verified the changes :-)
[08:52] <seb128> ok, good then but that's usually a detail and we don't bother
[08:52] <didrocks> but ok, that's not necessary, I know it now
[08:53] <didrocks> for the patch, I have read somewhere that the best pratice was not to use full path
[08:53] <didrocks> but I was wrong reading http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
[08:53] <didrocks> /usr/games is in the path, why providing a full path?
[08:54] <seb128> didrocks: otherwise
[08:54] <seb128> $ diff -u gnome-games-2.24.1.1/configure.in build-area/gnome-games-2.25.5/configure.in | grep DBUS
[08:54] <seb128> +DBUS_GLIB_REQUIRED=0.75
[08:55] <seb128> didrocks: you didn't add this build depends
[08:55] <didrocks> my bad, correct :/
[08:56] <seb128> didrocks: in fact it seems to be only required when building with the theme installer option
[08:56] <seb128> so not a bug ;-)
[08:56] <didrocks> seb128: I do not have the configure.in (not access to my branch actually), let me take a look, one sec
[08:57] <seb128> didrocks: to know why changes are there usually read the debian changelog
[08:57] <seb128> didrocks:
[08:58] <seb128>   * desktop-path.patch: added, uses absolute paths for .desktop files
[08:58] <seb128>     (closes: #236618).
[08:58] <seb128> debian bug #236618
[08:59] <didrocks> seb128: ok, I note that in my todo. I was unsure of this change and was relying on my sponsor :)
[08:59] <seb128> ;-)
[08:59] <seb128> didrocks: otherwise good work
[08:59] <didrocks> so, diff in configure.in and always read the changelog, again :)
[08:59] <seb128> I'm test building it now
[09:00] <didrocks> seb128: I would prefer it has been perfect, but well... :/
[09:00] <didrocks> (ok, I see in configure.in)
[09:01] <seb128> lut huats
[09:01] <didrocks> hello huats
[09:01] <huats> hey seb128
[09:01] <seb128> huats: c'est à cette heure là qu'on arrive au boulot? ;-)
[09:01] <huats> how are you ?
[09:01] <seb128> good thanks
[09:01] <seb128> you?
[09:01] <huats> morning everyone too :)
[09:01] <huats> seb128: LOL
[09:01] <huats> good too
[09:01] <didrocks> seb128: it's very early for him, now, you know? :)
[09:02] <huats> I just get connected now there is a small difference ;)
[09:02] <huats> (small I admit)
[09:02] <huats> (but I was working late yesterday on my daywork...)
[09:02] <didrocks> huats: time to boot? :-)
[09:02] <seb128> so he's basically starting at 10, reading mails for an hour, going for lunch, coming back at 15, doing some IRC and ubuntu work and then going for dinner?
[09:02] <huats> seb128: are you in the same office than me ?
[09:02] <huats> ;)
[09:03] <seb128> ;-)
[09:03] <huats> seb128: except that you forgot the various planet reading
[09:03] <huats> :p
[09:03] <seb128> heh
[09:03] <didrocks> I knew it, there was no scheduled time for ubuntu-fr! :-p
[09:04] <huats> seb128: the new gnome-keyring stuff FTBFS again (caused by the LDFLAGS like the previous time...)
[09:04] <huats> seb128: I'll see what I can do about it...
[09:04] <seb128> huats: anyway, jokes aside it's sponsoring time, hand the packages you had to update for today
[09:04] <huats> seb128: I will
[09:04] <seb128> ;-)
[09:04] <seb128> huats: the previous change doesn't apply this time?
[09:05] <huats> seb128: nope.
[09:05] <huats> I have to see if I can do some stuffs...
[09:06] <huats> seb128: I have something to do for my daywork right now
[09:06] <seb128> huats: just mail upstream
[09:06] <seb128> huats: ok, no hurry, good work
[09:06] <huats> but I'll will do my packages today :)
[09:06] <huats> and sure I'll mail upstream :)
[09:07] <seb128> didrocks: another trick to learn for you
[09:07] <seb128> didrocks:
[09:07] <seb128> $ dh_install --list-missing
[09:07] <seb128> dh_install: usr/share/gnome-games-common/theme-install.ini exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere
[09:07] <seb128> didrocks: new file which should be installed in a binary and is not
[09:24] <seb128> huats, fta: btw libsqlite 3.6 has been uploaded to debian yesterday
[09:25] <huats> seb128: THANKS !
[09:25] <seb128> huats: I didn't do it, I just noticed the upload ;-)
[09:25] <huats> thanks anyway :)
[09:26] <huats> seb128: since there is DIF, I think I need to write something to ask for the inclusion...
[09:27] <huats> I'll have a look then (later today after the uploads seb128 :))
[09:27] <seb128> huats: you need a sync request bug and subscribe the sponsor team to the bug
[09:30] <huats> seb128: ok thanks
[10:08] <didrocks> seb128: sorry, I was in a meeting
[10:08] <didrocks> dh_install --list-missing, ok, noted
[10:09] <didrocks> can I fix the package this evening?
[10:09] <seb128> yes
[10:11] <didrocks> seb128: ok, I will try to add an extra stuff so that you would forgive me for this bad update :-)
[10:11] <seb128> ;-)
[10:11] <seb128> there is no problem don't worry!
[10:11] <pochu> pitti: looks like the liferea update is flawed :(
[10:12] <pochu> pitti: I'll investigate this later (have an exam in 50 minutes). Do we need to do anything special? It's not in -updates yet.
[10:13] <pitti> pochu: please follow up on the bug report and tag it regression-proposed
[10:13] <pitti> pochu: exam> oh, good luck with it!
[10:15] <pochu> pitti: it's an English exam, so will be ok :)
[10:16] <pochu> ok, tagged
[10:32] <seb128> crevette: why did you change the nautilus-sendto description? we usually try to not change debian descriptions when not required, that creates delta over debian and that breaks translations
[10:33] <crevette> seb128, ah sorry, I wanted to update the description with regards to new functions added, and about generic support of IM
[10:33] <crevette> later I dropped the description of upnp but I kept the IM part because it sounded me valuable
[10:34] <seb128> crevette: well, there is no real changes since we don't use universe components so it still use the same set
[10:34] <crevette> I can propose a new description for debian so
[10:35] <seb128> well, the issue is that I don't think your description bring a lot ;-)
[10:35] <seb128> "sending files to accounts in an Evolution email
[10:35] <seb128> - address book, contacts on a Pidgin or Gajim instant messaging list,
[10:35] <seb128> - through Thunderbird, or through Claws Mail (formerly Sylpheed Claws)."
[10:36] <seb128> changed to
[10:36] <seb128> "sending files to various components, as an attachement
[10:36] <seb128> + in a mail in evolution, Thunderbird, or Claws Mail, or to the contacts of various
[10:36] <seb128> + instant messaging client.
[10:36] <seb128> "
[10:36] <seb128> that's not that different
[10:36] <Nafallo> Gajim \o/
[10:36] <seb128> lol
[10:36] <crevette> it was better with the UPNP and the other thing I forgot
[10:38] <crevette> :)
[10:38] <crevette> anyway I won't be angy if you drp it
[10:40] <seb128> crevette: ok, I'll drop it for now
[10:40] <crevette> angry
[10:40] <crevette> my "R" is blocked :)
[11:01] <pitti> seb128: AFAIR we had a bug tag which said "that's a good thing to work on for new interested people"
[11:01] <pitti> seb128: do you happen to remember that?
[11:02] <seb128> pitti: launchpad has a builtin option to say you would sponsor work on the bug, you can use that
[11:02] <seb128> pitti: otherwise there is bitesize for small changes
[11:02] <pitti> bitesize! that was it, merci!
[11:03] <seb128> you're welcome
[12:36] <asac> mvo: any reason why jaunty-codec-install isnt targetted for jaunty?
[12:40] <asac> mvo: I assume gnome-codec-install integrate properly with gstreamer? e.g. gnash will still work too?
[13:26] <pochu> asac: hey :) is it possible to thread messages in TB by "reply-to"? I'm looking at making threads useful in my launchpad bug-mail folder, and by subject is not an option as Launchpad mangles it
[13:26] <pochu> reply-to would work as it's bug specific, e.g. "Reply-To: Bug 247040 <247040@bugs.launchpad.net>"
[13:27] <pochu> (does anybody else have a working solution for this?)
[13:28] <asac> pochu: doesnt tbird look at "References: "?
[13:28] <seb128> pochu: use evolution? ;-)
[13:28] <pochu> seb128: I tried :-) but I had a few issues...
[13:28] <pochu> I've moved 2 out of 3 accounts to Evo though
[13:28] <pochu> but they don't have hundreds of mails a day ;)
[13:28] <asac> evolution blocked on lack of evolution ;) (just kidding)
[13:29] <pochu> heh
[13:29] <pochu> asac: hmm, not sure, let me try
[13:30] <mvo> asac: yeah, it should just work fine
[13:31] <mvo> asac: updated (targeted for jaunty now)
[13:31] <pochu> asac: looks like it doesn't
[13:31] <pochu> asac: but thanks. will continue later, lunch now :)
[13:32] <asac> pochu: i have huge bug folders in tbird as its just rocking fast searching stuff and so on ... never noticed any bad threading issues
[13:32] <asac> pochu: but i am using shredder (thunderbird-3.0 package from ~fta +archive) ... maybe try that .. otherwise we should figure whats wrong and file bug
[13:34] <didrocks> seb128: I have worked on updating the bzr desktop team page. (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bzr). If you don't like it, you can revert :)
[13:37] <seb128> didrocks: thank you, looking
[13:39] <seb128> didrocks: good work, that's clear and detailled ;-) we will probably tweak the workflow a bit but that's a good start
[13:40] <seb128> especially it would be nice to automate some of the testing or configure changes listing, etc
[13:40] <didrocks> seb128: hope that can provide some help to others :)
[13:40] <seb128> that will
[13:41] <didrocks> hum, I thought about removing debian/control from bzr
[13:41] <didrocks> as it is generated by debian/control.in in "rules clean"
[13:41] <didrocks> does this make sense?
[13:41] <seb128> I would not really bother
[13:41] <seb128> but I would not bother making sure it's uptodate either
[13:42] <didrocks> it is just because I think this is a source of mistake for new contributors
[13:44] <crevette> I admit I was mistaken several time
[13:45] <didrocks> seb128: I wanted to add some tricks for quilt + autotools (apply it one time, see which files are changed with find . -amin .. -type f > file and then make a quilt add ...). But this has to be in the packagingguide, hasn't it?
[13:47] <pitti> seb128: hm, I'm trying to get --short-docs to work (starting to work on bug 123035)
[13:47] <pitti> $ LANG= gconftool --short-docs /apps/drivemount-applet/prefs
[13:47] <pitti> No schema known for `/apps/drivemount-applet/prefs'
[13:47] <pitti> bug 123025, of course
[13:49] <pitti> hm, I get the same error with gconf-editor
[13:51] <pitti> seb128: ok, nevermind; works with /apps/baobab/ui/toolbar_visible
[14:02] <Keybuk> http://blogs.gnome.org/mortenw/2009/01/21/the-gtk-file-chooser-dialog/
[14:02] <Keybuk> I've seen that myself many times
[14:03] <seb128> re
[14:04] <seb128> pitti: sorry I was fighting the new gdm on my laptop and not looking at IRC
[14:04] <pitti> seb128: no problem, all set
[14:04] <seb128> didrocks: could be useful there too
[14:04] <pitti> seb128: I'm pretty surprised that gconf-schemas is a debianism; /var/lib/gconf/defaults/ doesn't look like being used from upstream?
[14:04] <didrocks> seb128: ok. I will put a note about it
[14:05] <seb128> pitti: no, they use /etc/gconf/schemas by default but using etc is against the debian policy
[14:10] <crevette> Keybuk, this is fixed in gtk 2.15.x
[14:11] <crevette> Keybuk, however I think patching libgtk for intrepid would be nice, because I was upset by this bug
[14:12] <seb128> it doesn't happen every time
[14:12] <seb128> it's only cosmetic, the change is not trivial and intrepid is not a lts
[14:12] <crevette> seb128, yeah, in epi it happen 2nd time I need filechooser
[14:12] <seb128> ie I doubt it'll be backported if there is not somebody interested doing the work
[14:15] <Keybuk> crevette: what was the bug?
[14:15] <Keybuk> I figured it had something to do with compiz?
[14:15] <crevette> no at all
[14:15] <crevette> this is the codre of filechooser
[14:15] <crevette> code
[14:15] <Keybuk> oh right
[14:15] <Keybuk> the reason I figured it had something do with compiz is that when it's appeared
[14:15] <Keybuk> it appears at that size
[14:16] <seb128> Keybuk: it's federico who did too much code simplication when cleaning the code some time ago
[14:16] <Keybuk> but the file chooser is being rendered normally
[14:16] <Keybuk> just at 1/2 scale
[14:16] <crevette> the upstream bug is closed now as federico commit new code to fix that
[14:16] <Keybuk> all the text, buttons, widgets are half the size
[14:16] <Keybuk> then it refreshes to be normal scale, half the window size
[14:16] <seb128> bug #285285
[14:16] <seb128> gnome bug #558776
[14:39] <glatzor> mvo, hello, would you please upload packagekit and packagekit-gnome 0.3.13?
[14:39] <mvo> glatzor: sure
[14:40] <mvo> glatzor: what is the current lp branch name?
[14:41] <mvo> glatzor: lp:~packagekit/pakcagekit/ubuntu-packagekit ?
[14:41] <mvo> 0.3.13-0ubvuntu1?
[14:42] <glatzor> mvo, correct.
[14:43] <mvo> glatzor: ok, I fix the changelog and upload then (sitll has UNRELEASED in it)
[14:44] <glatzor> mvo, i thought only the uploader should change the distro
[14:45] <mvo> glatzor: yeah, I never was so strict about that
[14:45] <mvo> glatzor: its fine, I just wanted to make sure there is no left over commit or anything
[14:50] <glatzor> mvo, is there an easy way to keep configuration for packges in debian/ but not build them?
[14:51] <mvo> glatzor: how do you mean? could could have a debian/rules.not-active in the source for example that would work
[14:52] <glatzor> mvo, if packagekit wants to go into main I should not build some of the more obscure packages, e.g the yum and smart backend, mozilla plugin, gstreamer installer
[14:53] <mvo> glatzor: that should be fine, those stuff can still go to universe
[14:53] <mvo> glatzor: and just packagekit itself goes to main
[14:53] <glatzor> mvo, are there any modifications required in the packaging? or is this an archive admin job?
[14:54] <mvo> glatzor: no modifications required, that is purely a archive thing (well, aisde from a MainInclusionReport)
[14:54] <mvo> glatzor: I guess riddell will write that anyway, no?
[14:54] <glatzor> mvo, right.
[14:55] <mvo> how is the qt frontend shaping up?
[14:55] <pochu> asac: it only happens with the [NEW] mails, the rest are correctly threaded it seems
[14:56] <glatzor> mvo, you can install it from the ppa. it seems to work.
[14:56] <asac> pochu: ah. yeah. those are even misthreaded in mutt
[14:56] <asac> pochu: definitly a launchpad prob imo
[14:56] <glatzor> mvo, it seems that suse picks up packagekit seriously
[14:58] <pochu> asac: hmm, also when the summary is changed (and thus the subject changes) it starts a new thread
[14:59] <mvo> glatzor: in what sense? what backend do they use with it? the yast one?
[14:59] <glatzor> mvo, zyppy
[15:00] <pochu> asac: but References seems to be correctly set
[15:04] <pochu> asac: I will try to update to TB 3 and see how it behaves
[15:04] <pochu> asac: thanks for the heads up :)
[15:06] <mvo> glatzor: how useful is the yum backend on a ubuntu system?
[15:06] <pochu> s/heads up/advice/
[15:07] <crevette> glatzor, mvo, is the packagekit better with deb distro now than few months ago ?
[15:08] <crevette> I thought it tested it last summer
[15:08] <glatzor> crevette, which issues did you encounter?
[15:09] <crevette> for instance after refreshing the list of updated packages in pkgkit, it won't see the packages to update
[15:10] <crevette> and I had various errors message with dbus and locking I believe
[15:17] <glatzor> crevette, the first one is fixed
[15:18] <glatzor> crevette, please write a bug report, if you see the error messages again
[15:20] <crevette> glatzor, okay I'll give it a try, I installed just few days to try it, but I removed it quickly
[15:20] <glatzor> mvo, the yum backend is only build because there is yum in Debian :)
[15:21] <glatzor> mvo, I use it for testing sometimes.
[15:21] <glatzor> mvo, but indeed it is confusing.
[15:22] <glatzor> mvo, I will remove the yum backend on the next upload. or is the upload still pending?
[15:27] <mvo> glatzor: just uploaded it, I don't really mind the backend, I was just curious :)
[15:46] <dholbach> hiya
[15:46] <dholbach> does anybody know where seb128 is?
[15:46] <crevette> hey dholbach
[15:46] <crevette> happy new year
[15:46] <dholbach> crevette: and the same to you!
[15:46] <crevette> seb128_ est parti (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[15:46] <dholbach> he's supposed to give a session in #ubuntu-classroom in 14m :)
[15:46] <crevette> perhaps he lost its internet access
[15:47] <crevette> aaah
[15:47] <dholbach> SEB128!
[15:47] <dholbach> Pushing out GNOME releases to millions of users!
[15:47] <seb128> hey dholbach
[15:47] <hggdh> seb128, ping, good morning and another difference on EDS trunk has surfaced
[15:47] <seb128> dholbach: , yeah, still 10 minutes right?
[15:47] <dholbach> seb128: yep, all the time in the world
[15:47] <seb128> hggdh: hi, which one?
[15:47] <didrocks> seb128: dholbach just began to worry :)
[15:47] <seb128> didrocks: trying to get the new gdm to work
[15:47] <hggdh> seb128, libical is now an external depends
[15:48] <seb128> so lot's of session restart, not worth starting IRC between
[15:48] <seb128> hggdh: right I noticed they were working on that
[15:48] <hggdh> current libical we ship is 0.33, eds requires 0.43
[15:48] <didrocks> seb128: good luck, seems to be a hard stuff (I looked at the it a little bit, following the desktop team meeting)
[15:48] <seb128> we will need to update, version updates are not really an issue
[15:48] <seb128> didrocks: thanks
[15:49] <hggdh> OK, will open an upgrade request
[16:00] <hggdh> seb128, done
[16:01] <seb128> hggdh: what is done?
[16:01] <seb128> sorry got a presentation starting now ;-)
[16:02] <hggdh> seb128, the upgrade request for libical
[17:05] <seb128> hggdh: re, sorry I got sidetracked by the presentation on the other channel
[17:06] <seb128> hggdh: did you open the request to debian or on launchpad or both?
[17:09] <seb128> pochu: thanks for forwarding the questions between the channels
[17:17] <pochu> seb128: yw
[17:22] <didrocks> seb128: I think we don't ship upstream *.scores and use the ones provided by postinst?
[17:26] <seb128> didrocks: right
[17:50] <crevette> hello
[17:52] <crevette> hey gents
[17:52] <hggdh> seb128, just in LP right now
[17:52] <crevette> do you have some tarball I can package
[17:52] <crevette> hggdh: he left
[17:53] <hggdh> crevette, just noticed... thanks
[17:54] <crevette> I take vinagre / vino if you don't care
[17:54] <mvo> ember: thatnks for your brasero update, I'm happy to sponsor it
[18:16] <didrocks> Nafallo: there?
[18:17] <Nafallo> didrocks: hi
[18:17] <didrocks> Hi :)
[18:17] <hggdh> question: if an updated version of a package exists in Debian, and there are no local changes, is this an upgrade or sync request?
[18:17] <didrocks> Nafallo: I am looking for adding lpi to a python software. I saw there used to be one for gajim and I cherrypicked it
[18:18] <didrocks> Nafallo: but in 0.12~beta1-0ubuntu1 you dropped it. And I wonder why :)
[18:19] <didrocks> (away for half an hour, but I will read your answer then ;))
[18:20] <asomething> hggdh: if there are no Ubuntu changes, then it would be a sync
[18:20] <hggdh> asomething, thanks, I will correct the bug I opened
[18:27] <Nafallo> didrocks: cause we didn't use it at all. just added complexity I didn't need.
[18:27] <Nafallo> didrocks: i.e. the stuff was there, but we didn't use LP as the lp-integration was supposed to be used.
[18:28] <didrocks> Nafallo: ok. this is not because of lpi no more supported for python in jaunty (I was afraid of that :))
[18:28] <didrocks> Nafallo: thanks a lot for your answer
[18:28] <Nafallo> didrocks: no worries.
[18:36] <Amaranth> So I just wasted two hours looking to see what KDE and GNOME do differently when changing cursor themes that would make compiz update the cursors in KDE but not in GNOME
[18:37] <Amaranth> Turns out kde-window-decorator checks for these changes and updates itself, compiz never updates it's two visible cursors
[18:37] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[18:38] <Amaranth> And kde-window-decorator seems to update these cursors every time you move your mouse (!)
[18:43] <Amaranth> mvo: The fullscreen stacking fixes patch should be in git now, btw
[18:43] <Amaranth> working on the cursor theme one now
[19:31] <pochu> so no webkit for 2.26
[19:35] <dobey> \o/
[20:22] <mvo> you rock Amaranth
[20:36] <crevette> I update epiphany
[20:41] <Amaranth> mvo: Do you know if any of the drivers that support compiz still default to XAA? I'm a bit out of the loop there
[20:41] <Amaranth> I know intel defaults to EXA, what about ati?
[20:44] <johanbr> Amaranth: -ati in jaunty uses exa, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/269357
[20:46] <mvo> Amaranth: I don't know, #ubuntu-x will know for sure
[20:47] <crevette> seb128: hi, bratche was looking for you on {gnome-hackers
[20:47] <seb128> crevette: hello, you know why?
[20:47] <crevette> no
[20:55] <crevette> damn I wondered why my sponsor request for vinagre was still no pushed... dumb em as usual
[20:57] <Amaranth> mvo: Ok, since intel and ati both use exa we can probably drop that first patch
[20:58] <Amaranth> mvo: the one that sets the _COMPIZ_GL_INCLUDE_INFERIORS or whatever
[21:05] <mvo> Amaranth: fine with me, its a devel release, people will yell if it breaks something :)
[21:08] <didrocks> seb128: I have reworked on (and hopefully fixed) gnome-games: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gnome-games/ubuntu
[21:09] <didrocks> and for bonus point, I added LPI to glchess and gnome-sudoku (python games) :)
[21:09] <seb128> didrocks: excellent
[21:12] <asomething> seb128: Hi, when you get a chance, could you take a look at bug #319400
[21:12] <seb128> asomething: hey, I read it and planned to comment but that has been a busy day, I need to ping the server team about the openchange and samba syncs
[21:13] <seb128> e-d-s and evo need to be updated to 2.25, did you do that? are you interested to work on those updates?
[21:13] <seb128> we might wait for next tarballs to upload though because they screwed a soname which is fixed in svn now
[21:13] <asomething> seb128: i just built them locally
[21:13] <seb128> they had some configure version lower in 2.25 compared to 2.24
[21:14] <seb128> let me know if you are interest by doing the 2.25 jaunty updates, that would be welcome, I'm already quite busy on other things and keep delaying those
[21:15] <asomething> seb128: the openchange and samba syncs also aren't essential, but my real issues is that compile problem mentioned in the report
[21:15] <didrocks> seb128: I can handle one or two tomorrow if that can help
[21:16] <seb128> asomething: I need to ask upstream or the server team about that
[21:16] <seb128> asomething: I'll update the bug tomorrow it's late for them now
[21:17] <asomething> seb128: great, thanks
[21:17] <seb128> thank you for your work ;-)
[21:18] <crevette> seb128: I finished to put the vinagre update from 2 weeks ago in lp and I did the vino update of today
[21:19] <seb128> crevette: thanks
[21:21] <crevette> bah, so little work
[21:21] <crevette> not a problem :)
[21:26] <asomething> seb128: i can't commit to doing the e-d-s/evo upgrades right now, i'll check in tomorrow and can probably take them if no one else wants to
[21:27] <asomething> seb128: libgweather will have to get updated for them, i just disabled it when building locally
[21:27] <seb128> asomething: they are waiting for a while so if you want to do those you have time, they can get uploaded next week for example
[21:27] <seb128> I started on this one but I've a build issue remaining
[21:27] <lovlexir> Him somebody know how reconfigure my GDM ??
[21:27] <seb128> I'll try to get it done tomorrow
[21:27] <lovlexir> Hi, somebody know how reconfigure my GDM ??
[21:27] <seb128> lovlexir: sudo gdmsetup and click?
[21:28] <lovlexir> but i can´t login in graphic intercafe...
[21:28] <lovlexir> from terminal can i access?
[21:31] <didrocks> time to go to bed. Have a good night/day everyone :-)
[21:31] <lovlexir> i install some packages for multimeia, from soundforge and anoter, and from there the Xserver do not start....
[21:31] <lovlexir> «didrocks» good night :)
[21:32] <lovlexir> any talk spanish :$
[21:32] <lovlexir> somebody ? :'(
[21:34] <seb128> lovlexir: try #ubuntu, this channel is one where people work not one for user questions
[21:34] <lovlexir> sorry
[22:20] <hggdh> seb128, I changed the upgrade request for libical to a sync request -- debian already has libical-0.4.3 in Sid
[22:20] <seb128> hggdh: excellent ;-)
[22:21] <hggdh> so now we have two blocks on going to Evo 2.25.4/5 on Jaunty: libical and libpst
[22:21] <hggdh> 2.25.5, to be more correct
[22:24] <seb128> hggdh: we will likely wait for next tarballs, the configure version were lower in 2.25 than 2.24 for some reason, I noticed that when looking at the update and srag fixed it to svn today
[22:25] <seb128> hggdh: doing the 2.25 update would require to lower a soname to update it again in the next upload
[22:29] <seb128> hggdh: you want to subscribe the main sponsor team since libical is in main now
[22:30] <seb128> hggdh: don't bother I do sync it now
[22:47] <hggdh> seb128, thank you
[22:48] <seb128> you're welcome