[00:43] Hey guys I just put xubu on my ps3 and have all kinds of problems [00:44] It won't let me access any folders [00:44] xfce keeps disabling itself as desktop manager [00:44] What do I do??? [00:47] Hello ppl??? [00:57] :-( [00:57] please help me [01:02] sml1226, don't pm random people [01:02] if anyone is available we'll help [01:02] sorry man [01:03] is there anybody here??? [01:09] sml1226: you probably want to try a channel/forum that specifically addresses xubuntu on a ps3 [01:11] Where can I find that??? [01:13] plela2 u still there? [01:13] sml1226: looks like you want to try http://psubuntu.com/ [01:13] ok thanks man [01:20] trying to use ubu to get back to xubu cuz psubuntu was no help at all [01:22] ubuntu is ubuntu the only difference in name is if you use Gnome or Xfce [03:03] does gufw require root permissions to be effective? [03:04] hello, whats the steps for getting flash/java working in xubuntu [03:04] ? [03:04] gartral: Platform? [03:05] xubuntu latest [03:05] no, x32 or x86_64? [03:06] what is your processor? [03:06] unfortunetly, im dealing with a total idiot, acting as an intermidery, and he feels too overwhelmed to ask here, i assume its 32, however, hes rather cluless when came too windows, and is pretty much vompletly lost in any linux [03:07] flash works pretty well on both platforms now in ubuntu [03:07] so let me dig up the commands for both [03:07] no commands, please, this is the fifth time hes reinstalled >.> [03:08] it really would be best if we could do this through the gui [03:08] it's a simple apt-get command [03:08] hes already screwed that up five time, trust me [03:09] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree sun-java6-jre [03:09] that should install everything you need [03:09] thats what i found in the forums, and hes botched it five times... [03:09] hmm [03:09] do you know what is processor is? [03:10] i already said, were assuming 32 [03:10] I don't know how you botch that 5 times [03:10] does he have firefox installed? [03:10] neither do i, but hes totally cluless [03:10] yes, thats base package, isnt it? [03:11] Depends on your version of ubuntu [03:11] xubuntu, latest 8.10 [03:11] ehh [03:11] open synaptic [03:11] six times... he just reformatted the main drive... [03:11] O_o [03:12] c l u e l e s s [03:12] it's ok, we were all there at one time [03:12] ;) [03:12] type gksu synaptic in a terminal [03:13] that will open a GUI for installing programs [03:13] brandon = terminalphobia [03:13] oh wait, he's on xubuntu? [03:13] Applications -> System -> Synaptic [03:13] enter the root password [03:13] then search for flash [03:13] check flashplugin-nonfree [03:14] then search for jre [03:14] and check sun-java6-jre [03:14] then hit apply [03:14] you dont need to designate the nonfree packages? [03:14] hes just installed [03:14] and at prettymuch zeroconfig [03:14] Xubuntu 8.10 doesn't require that multi-verse thing anymore [03:15] *multiverse configuration [03:15] it should just ask when you try to install, just hit ok if that happens [03:15] ok, thats explains why he didnt find it when i told him too look [03:15] when jre asks to agree to the Sun EULA, scrolldown and check the box, and press accept [03:16] then wait for it to finish and you should be done [03:16] ok, lets put it this way, he thinks synaptic is in firefox [03:17] ... [03:17] when i say cluless, i mean clueless like the former president clueless [03:19] wow, um [03:19] I can't really explain this any other way... [03:19] actually... [03:19] you COULD install it from firefox [03:20] it may be a bit more difficult, though [03:20] but you have too hunt down the packages [03:20] much simpler, actually [03:20] and there deps [03:20] go to a website using flash, and when it says missing plugins, click the little popup, and do as it says [03:21] and here we go, he finally got it, god [03:21] through firefox? [03:21] nah, synaptic [03:21] alright [03:21] good luck with Linux [03:22] heh, ill tell him, im running a different distro, and the layouts way different [03:22] oh, it's not installed yet? [03:22] huh? [03:23] flash and java [03:23] you may want to teach him to use the terminal [03:23] you relise, ths helps being relayed, this isnt on my system, and i said, he has severe terminal-phobia [03:24] ok, where all good [03:24] thank you all [03:24] you're welcome [03:24] happy to help [03:25] i have yet too use the latest ubuntu, i had severe issues with thermal overloads in dapper and havent touched it since [03:25] dapper was over two years ago [03:26] thermal overloads? When was the last time you cleaned your fan? [03:26] not a fan issue, its just an old AMD newark, 05 series, the system has a liquid coolant system and still overheats [03:27] oh [03:27] I'm not real big on hardware [03:27] crappy hardware, nothing i can do [03:27] laptop? [03:27] yea >.> [03:27] buy a new one? [03:27] no money [03:28] i literally have $75 a month for food [03:28] what country? [03:28] USA [03:29] gartral: Find a job [03:29] hmm [03:29] im on SSI, and they dicked me for $ on my birthday [03:29] you're making BELOW minimum wage? O_o [03:29] i cant work, im multiple dissability [03:29] gartral: Too "sad" to work? [03:29] mmhm [03:29] ignore MisterFlibble, he's a troll [03:30] Social Security is just a program for fakers [03:30] between having half a leg, and rare lung condition, i can leave my house much [03:30] people that need it can't get it [03:30] cause of all the "I'm sad" cheaters [03:31] gartral: Have you considered working in the Informations Technology field? [03:31] no degrees [03:31] you don't need one [03:31] ...for certain things [03:31] SSI can pay anything from $623 to like $2,000 or so a month I think [03:32] selling websites doesn't require a degree [03:32] never finished high school cause the track and feild couch ran me till my leg clotted, the it was amputated [03:32] depending on your income before you were on it [03:32] gartral: You didn't sue? [03:32] they won the case with the staement of "we were never made awear of any prior health issue in your family" [03:33] more cause the lawer apointed too me at the time was a fucking pig [03:33] excuse my language [03:33] The government covers their ass retroactively, and the hearing is decided by a government judge [03:33] don't you love the hypocrisy? [03:33] yea [03:33] no, MisterFlibble, its an idiocracy [03:34] so then you have to hire a bloodsucking lawyer and fight them for a year or three [03:34] with what? [03:34] my "good looks?: [03:34] they'll work on contingent [03:34] they only get paid if you win [03:35] you could try selling websites [03:35] the SSI pays you a certain back pay [03:35] the lawyer takes part of that [03:35] yea, he still is.. [03:35] a year after he fucked me [03:35] You have to be careful what lawyer you hire [03:36] one of the friedmen domino and smith asses [03:37] heh [03:37] anyway, if i could rewind a year or two, ide just avoid lakewood as a city all together, and wouldnt be here [03:37] I had a case in the court system at one point, and my lawyer lost paperwork she needed for my case [03:38] and I was lucky the judge gave me a continence or I'd still be in jail [03:38] *Continuance [03:39] I love how our system works, it says "innocent til proven guilty" but what really happens is the state charges you with a crime and you have to spend thousands on a lawyer to prove you didn't do it [03:39] and you don't get that back, even if you're not guilty [03:40] and also, in america, the land of the free, you cant get a job at Buger King or Toxic Bell without a collage diploma [03:40] uhhhm [03:40] there's high school dropouts working there [03:40] yeah [03:40] not in lakewood ohio [03:40] the register even counts change for them now [03:41] you could put a monkey there [03:41] why the hell would you go to college to work at burger king? [03:41] Collosal.waste.of.money [03:41] ohh, but having animals do the laber is workers right violations [03:41] that sounds like discrimination to me based on your disabilities [03:41] Grant: There's not such thing as needing a college degree to flip hamburgers [03:42] I think you've been lied to [03:42] even their managers don't need them usually [03:42] just on the job training [03:42] our president didn't act like he had one [03:42] McDonalds hires people off the street [03:42] hah, then why do the all have their degrees posted on the wall? [03:42] gives them uniforms [03:42] and pays minimum wage [03:42] lol [03:42] Welcome to McDonalds, would you be interested in giving me change? [03:43] it's a job for kids and for people that are honestly not competent to do anything else [03:43] no, the unemployment rate in the craphole is way too high too be sustainable [03:43] They probably can't spell "college" [03:44] those diplomas on the walls are most likely city business licenses, land leases, awards, and one of the manager's [03:44] When they tell you the economy is growing and the unemployment is going through the roof [03:44] it means "The rich are doing fine, where's the problem?" [03:44] :) [03:45] Hopefully our new government will be a little less apathetic to workers, but I doubt it [03:45] Maybe on the surface at least, Obama won't be an insensitive clod like Bush :P [03:45] Well, the only difference is a democratic majority and new commander in chief [03:45] the president has very little power [03:45] hah, no, they all bear marking from big name colleges like stanford-brown, ITT, Phoenix, and ohhyea, the manager went too kent state [03:46] I highly doubt those are the employee's [03:46] yea they are dudre [03:46] Grant: The President has lots of power, but he can't use most of it without Congress approving it [03:46] which is how it should be [03:46] no one in hell would go to college just to work at minimum wage for the rest of their lives... [03:46] 15 year olds work at BK and McD [03:46] not college graduates [03:47] hmm [03:48] I looked up his IP address... [03:48] it's not from anywhere in Ohio... [03:48] it not that they WANT too, its that, booger fling and toxic hell are the only places left too work, unless youed rather work a Caribou Coffee, or the Library, or perhaps free-lance journalist.... all of which pay SHIT i might add [03:48] duh.. proxy [03:48] 75.33.65.127 [03:48] burger king and taco bell pay less than the other places... [03:49] minimum wage is $8 an hour, and they only work 12 hour days [03:49] no, sadly, they honestly pay more, the other 3 pay 6 and under, and i dont know how they get away with it [03:50] minimum wage is $6.50 an hour, and it will be $.7.25 this May [03:50] ((8*12)*7)*4 = [03:50] anything over 40 hours is time and a half [03:50] by law [03:50] and my frind says that the media plugins arnt working after installation [03:51] people who work full time at burger king and taco bell only make $2,688 a month, add all utility, food, and housing bills, and that leaves them with $300 a month [03:51] honstly, you really think a search by ip is reliable? [03:52] yea, and SSI pays me under 1200 [03:52] I'm not going to argue anymore... you aren't making sense... [03:53] anyway, this is severly OT, my frin says he cant get flash working still [03:56] ok, so what, your all went clueless? [03:56] I've explained it every way I can... [03:57] sorry [03:58] is it that, or have you just tooken a cold shoulder too me for being a complaining cripple? [03:58] um no... I explained to you every possible way to install it [03:58] really, be honest, you wont hurt me much more than i already am [03:59] ugh.... clueless moron, hes had KUBUNTU on his system this whole time! [04:00] he needs a terminal in that case, because adept is broken [04:00] well, konsole in this case [04:00] yet he just rebooted and it works anyway >.> [04:01] ok, now im baffled there [04:01] < 30 second reboot? [04:03] no, he dissapeared a few minutes ago [04:03] oh [04:03] i was just too busy typing too notice [04:04] hes so clueless, he needs help finding volume controls.. [04:09] hi, whats the best way to install nvidia drivers on intrepid ? [04:10] the jockey pop-up didn't come? [04:11] Applications > System > Hardware Drivers [04:11] Then select the NVidia driver that corresponds with your car [04:11] *card [04:11] Grant-A|busy, actually i'm running server+xfce i don't have application>system etc... [04:12] ah, I am not sure then [04:12] infact i dont have "applications" at all... [04:16] youll need too know the name of the file, and use wget from terminal [04:53] saluton [05:37] quote of the day: How could you compete, they are smart enough to have mastered space travel. While you are a emotionally crippled buffoon with a Napoleon complex." [05:37] =) [05:37] Roughly translated maybe.. [08:18] Hi! I wonder why I can see group audio by groups command, but not by the graphical utility. [08:25] group audio what? [08:29] ball: I meant a group called "audio". [08:30] oh. [08:30] File and image hosting sites that do not require registration list. http://pastebin.ca/raw/1314460 [08:39] I want to know why Gstreamer still has that bug that tints my video playback blue [08:39] I've seen that come and go since 7.04 [09:44] i'm having a problem writing to my external drive (ntfs). i've tried drag/drop, copy/paste via gui, and copy via terminal. no go. i also installed ntfs configuration tool and enabled write support for external drive. nothing seems to work. [09:48] !ntfs [09:48] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [09:48] i can see my drive and copy files from it. it seems to auto mount fine. i've installed ntfs-3g [09:49] any output if you try to copy from terminal [09:49] ? [09:50] knome: no [09:51] hmmh. [09:51] i'm already out of ideas. [09:51] that's what has been lurking in the back of my head all day.....hmmmm, ha, ha [09:52] i'm new to linux and i figured maybe i'm too stupid, being a windows user and all [11:53] hi, how can i update xfce to version 4.6? is there a repo already? [11:54] on xubuntu 8.10 [12:03] there was a repository, but I'm not sure it still works [12:04] it's generally a bad idea though, it's not finished yet [12:11] i think i can wait till its final release in about 2 weeks [12:19] KosiNuss: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive [12:20] ty [12:23] KosiNuss: there gonna be a new release of xubuntu in two weeks? [12:24] yes, official release date is feb 2nd [12:24] sry on feb 6th [12:24] http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.6/milestones [12:26] KosiNuss: thanks alot! [12:27] hmz issnt that just a new release from xfce? [12:28] nevermind i read it correctly now [12:39] is ther a useful way to use bluetooth on xubuntu? any tool or so? [12:40] !bluetooth [12:40] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [12:41] !info bluetooth [12:41] bluetooth (source: bluez): Bluetooth support. In component main, is optional. Version 4.12-0ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 4 kB, installed size 40 kB [12:41] no. not the ubuntu one... i just get nautlius startet all the time etc... [12:41] s/startet/started [12:41] is there really only the ubuntu way to use bluetooth on xubuntu? [12:42] i use bluetooth with hcitool, sdptool, obexfs ... [12:42] !info bluetooth-applet [12:42] Package bluetooth-applet does not exist in intrepid [12:42] i have to go -> [12:42] i hope you get it sorted out. [12:42] knome: the bluetooth-applet alway starts nautilus which messes up with xfce [12:58] atari_ dont run naulius fully then. run it without the desktop. [12:58] just the file manager. [12:58] how can i tell it not to run the desktop part? [12:59] via command-line option [13:00] see nautilus --help [13:00] and how? i used the gnome-bluetooth app [13:00] and that starts nautilus [13:04] well, start it yourself before it does === judgen is now known as judgen-away === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [13:52] Hey all. [14:38] has anybody used xubuntu + multi-head workstation without xinerama? [14:48] taw, what graphics card to you have? [15:15] Hey, can anyone tell me why using the following command grub fails to locate the file : find /boot/grub/stage1 [15:15] The file is in /boot/grub [15:16] Even though it keeps on saying tgat it doesnt exist [15:24] taw: yes [15:24] taw: but i use the nvidia xinerama like emulation [15:26] Ratty, the way you did your command...it is telling find to start looking in the DIRECTORY /boot/grub/stage1. stage1 is a file and that is why you are getting the error [15:27] Ratty, read this over to get a handle on find. http://www.linux.com/articles/55377 [15:28] It is a great tool, but the syntax is hard...I had the worst time getting the hang of it, but now I love it. [15:28] Pres-Gas: good point, but does still not work without the wacky [15:28] do you have a separate /boot/ partition? [15:29] Nope [15:29] Default install really [15:29] hi, I'm looking for anyone with some experience with Kino [15:30] 3 partitions... Primary, extended, and swap [15:30] Dual booting XP [15:41] Hmmm... For some reason or another the grib gfx package is not installing correctly [15:41] Using dpkg -i (file) [15:47] Ahhh so you cant use it on xubuntu since its ext3 partitions use the newer 256 byte inode unlike what grub gfx uses which is 128 [16:04] Pres-Gas, at the moment one matrox dual-head, and one even older Matrox [16:05] but planning to install some dual head ati + that old matrox for third head [16:14] atari_, nautilus --no-desktop [16:19] knome: yeah. but that doesnt help... even if i already have started nautilus, it gets started as normal... [16:27] atari_, so do you want to browse files on a device? [16:32] knome: yeah [16:55] atari_, install obexfs, then "obexfs -b 01:02:03:04:05:06 -B channel -- /mount/point" [16:56] atari_, to unmount, "fusermount -u /mount/point" [16:57] atari_, and of course replace 01:02... with your device mac [16:57] atari_, and channel with obex file transfer channel on you device [17:02] knome: ill try it later [17:02] knome: thanks for the advice :) [17:06] atari_, np. just had to find out this yesterday myself [18:47] hey guys! [18:47] i have a q [18:47] can anyone help please? [18:48] i just installed xubuntu, but looks like it loads with GNOME [18:48] not rite button menu and stuff [18:49] any advice? [18:49] GNOME and XFCE share a lot of packages [18:50] i c [18:50] ty [18:50] but still no right button menu... can you advice how to make it more like XFCE? [18:51] saint-tropez, if you want it more traditional XFCE you will have to go into the settings manager [18:51] ah... k ill try [18:51] xubu is made to behave very similarly to ubu [18:51] ty both [18:51] yeah, Xubuntu sets XFCE up to basically clone GNOME [18:52] yeah i can see this... now, was a bit scared at first =) [18:53] ty [18:53] The resource usage isn't different enough to make much difference on a reasonable fast machine [18:53] but the menus and file manager load and navigate a lot quicker [18:53] all i need is speed =) [18:53] yep [19:00] http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7817/screenshot7or3.png [19:01] is how mine's set up :P [19:01] XFCE has better themes than GNOME [19:05] Hello, does Xubuntu not offer to encrypt your hard drive when installing? 8.10 [19:05] RediXe: i beleive you need to use the alternative install disc for that... [19:05] !alternative | RediXe [19:06] RediXe: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate link on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [19:10] uh so guys [19:10] i had a problem with my xubuntu install cd, and it gave an IO error half way through [19:11] unfortunately, that leaves me in the curious position of having a half-installed xubuntu system [19:11] so, i can't boot it because the install cd thinks that xubuntu is installed, and so boots from the disk [19:11] (as in the hard disk) [19:12] i can't use the one half-installed on the hard disk because well, it's half-installed [19:12] if anyone has some evil genius plan here, please do let me know [19:13] lc2: reinstalling seems to be the only option... i also reccomend using the alternative install disc... as it seems somewhat more secure... [19:13] Odd-rationale: i can't reinstall, that's the whole problem [19:14] lc2: you have to change the boot order in the bios... [19:14] Odd-rationale: when i put the install cd in, it boots from it, and i'm guessing it's like "lol there's a ubuntu system on the hard drive, let's boot from that!11" [19:14] lc2: no, it should ask you whether you want to install, or boot from first hard drive... [19:15] Odd-rationale: if i go to install, it boots me into xubuntu, from my hard drive. [19:15] lc2: hmm strange... did you check the integrity of the disc? [19:15] Odd-rationale: no i didn't, i had one i had sitting around [19:16] Odd-rationale: but that's not foremost among my concerns at the moment [19:16] somehow being able to get into the installer again, would be great [19:17] lc2: for some reason, you install disc is not behaving properly... i was wondering whether an incorrect burn could be the issue... [19:17] oh btw i can't even ctrl+alt+Fx to get into a real terminal, because 1) i can't log in 2) getty or whatever it's called these days hasn't installed [19:17] Odd-rationale: no, i suspect it's behaving just as it should, it's seeing i have xubuntu installed on disk, and booting from that rather than CD [19:18] that is, the CD is doing that [19:18] that's my point... the cd shouldn't be doing that... :P [19:18] that seems like rational behaviour, *if* there was no such thing as a hosed install [19:18] Odd-rationale: i don't think a corrupted CD would cause that [19:19] you know, corrupted CDs mean random corrupted files, not "hey let's boot off another disk entirely" [19:19] what version of the iso do you have? [19:19] uhh hardy [19:19] in before "upgrade", i like LTS [19:20] well, gonna go play around with boot parameters, brb! [19:26] hey guise, if i do get it to boot fully off the CD again, is there a way i can tell xubuntu to install everything from the internets, rather than from the CD? [19:26] saves me booting into the rootkitted windows installation to download another ISO [19:26] :P [19:26] lc2: you need to use the mini.iso to download packages from the internet. [19:27] !mini [19:27] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [19:27] it is like 10mb... [19:27]