[00:00] nl [00:00] wesley_: and I wake up at 6... [00:00] so time to go I guess :) [00:00] no i am workless [00:00] goodbye [00:00] wesley_: seya ! [00:05] * ScottK learns about bzr push :parent [00:05] whats that ? [00:08] Pushes a bzr branch back where it was branched from. [00:08] aha, i am bored [00:14] man 720 doesnt seem to run that good [00:24] is a get-orig-source rule necessary, everytime I repacked the source? [00:31] evening [00:33] I should use messages like contact person has left the chat use more often [00:37] interesting couldnt input text on quassel until i quit and started again [00:39] jjesse-dell9: Split client/core? [00:39] ScottK: no core with internal server [00:39] OK. No idea then. [00:40] trying to figure this out [00:40] neversfelde: Most MOTU won't advocate without it. [00:41] ScottK: thanks, I should provide one with plasmoid-windowslist then [00:41] neversfelde: Yes. [00:44] neversfelde: You need to version your build-dep on libplasma-dev to 4.1.96~ or higher [00:44] Due to your CMake patch it won't work on earlier ones. [00:46] neversfelde: Also add a comment to the patch explaining why it's needed. [00:46] hehe she says she goes offline, but then she shows up again [00:47] any news regarding nvidida drivers version 180.22 ? [00:47] It's not really a Kubuntu issue. [00:48] in quassel is there a way to notify on all events? only see notifications of my nickname === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian [01:19] what channel is kpackagekit maintainer in? #packagekit? [01:20] jjesse-dell9: i think people said he is not online much [01:20] mostly email [01:20] Nightrose: thanks [01:26] question on the lcd weather plasmoid, if i am not connected to the internet when it starts up, it never updates [01:28] if i close the lcd weather applet then open it back up connected to internet it works again [01:30] So I've lost non-root write access for the 2nd time in a week. [01:30] * ScottK starts to thing running the kernel from -proposed wasn't a great idea. [01:30] thing/think [01:36] look at bug 316849 [01:36] Launchpad bug 316849 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "mysql-server-5.1 5.1.30-2ubuntu3 fails to install/upgrade / doesn't start - skip-bdb option unsupported (amarok)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316849 [01:37] ScottK: ^ [01:38] Looks like [01:53] <_neversfelde> re again, probably not long === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [01:54] ScottK: I added a get-orig-source rule and the libplasma version but where should I add a comment of the patch [01:54] for plasmoid-windowslist [02:00] * vorian whispers 'changelog' [02:00] vorian: there is a description [02:01] what do you mean? [02:02] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-windowslist [02:04] neversfelde: that patch allows the plasmoid to build against the new libplasma-dev [02:04] yes, but I added a description to changelog [02:04] is it not good enough? [02:04] it really doesn't have anything to do with the buildsystem change [02:05] ah ok, I thought [02:05] you were close [02:05] and copied it somewhere [02:05] thanks [02:05] that patch fixes pre 4.1.96 plasmoid/plasma stuff [02:05] no problem [02:07] uploaded again [02:13] Riddell, ping [02:42] vorian and neversfelde: Lintian will whine at you if your patch doesn't have a description in it. For quilt it is freeform text before the start of the patch. [02:43] ScottK: do you know an example? [02:44] Look at the qt-x11 packages. They are chock full of commented patches from the Trolls. [02:44] ScottK: ty [02:45] YW [02:52] what is that webpage that apachelogger uses to figure out the best time for a meeting? [02:52] nevermind, found it [02:52] doodle.com [02:53] nixternal: doodle? [02:53] :) [03:00] added the description [03:00] puh :) [03:04] nixternal: Can you do a bit of sponsoring for vorian? [03:04] or that [03:05] I am unable to right now...working on getting a snapshot out for our QA team [03:05] no big deal [03:05] I am kind of screwed right now because we restructured on friday, which means I took on the jobs of 2 previous people [03:06] I am about to head up to the gas station and see if they are hiring [03:06] :o [04:09] ScottK: ping [04:09] Pong [04:09] a|wen: ^^ [04:10] ScottK: have you had time to look at kdesvn (just wanted to know if you had any comments/questions)? [04:10] Haven't had a chance to look. [04:11] okay, no problem [04:13] do you have anything atm which needs to be done / looked at (have some time later today for stuff) [04:14] Packaging or coding or either? [04:14] BTW, I CAN haz bluetooth. [04:14] Riddell: kdebase-workspace for 4.1.4 uploaded to intrepid-proposed. [04:14] packaging or testing mostly [04:16] What are you running? [04:16] intrepid with 4.2rc2 [04:16] Not sure then. [04:16] * ScottK looks at vorian. [04:17] * ScottK needs 4.1.4 testers. [04:17] If you wanted a coding thing to look at http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/todays-tip-turning-off-fancy-schmancy.html seems useful. [04:17] ScottK: i run jaunty, sorry [04:17] Right, but anything you know of needs testing? [04:18] not off the top of my head [04:18] ScottK: i have an eeePC with me which run "stock" intrepid ... will look at upgrading that to 4.1.4 while i'm in class later today [04:19] a|wen: Great. Thanks. [04:20] were you referring to the plasma configuration dialog thing? ... it want make it for 4.2? [04:21] I was. It won't make it upstream, but if you could produce a patch for 4.2 we could add it locally the then push it up into 4.3. [04:22] Generally we want to package as many interesting plasmoids as we can this cycle. That's also useful. [04:22] ScottK: from the link you gave: "Update: A patch for this has already shown up on the plasma devel list. Nice.." ... so we pretty much just need to find that mail [04:23] Ah, even better. [04:23] :) [04:25] * a|wen starts searching [04:29] ScottK: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/331/diff/ ... and the comment from Aaron Seigo to it was "Ship it!" [04:30] Good enough for me. [04:32] do we know in which of our packages it belongs? kdebase-workspace? [04:32] That's what it looks like. [04:33] good; didn't want to start out with the wrong one [04:34] If you're up for it, I'd suggest adding it to our current package locally and then if it works for you, kvetch at vorian to make sure the patch gets into our 4.2.0 packages (he's coordinating packaging of 4.2.0) [04:37] ScottK: i'll do that [04:37] a|wen: Great. It's good to have you back. [04:38] good to be back :) [04:38] ScottK: our kde-packaging is in bzr, right? is it in lp:~kubuntu-members? [04:40] a|wen: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu [04:40] Yes. [04:41] thx [04:47] Riddell: New kdebase-workspace in intrepid-proposed is currently building (StevenK accepted it). kdebluetooth is also uploaded and needs accepting (unless he gets to it). [04:47] I got at least as much bluetooth as I had before, so it's progress. [04:48] ScottK: i give up on these symbols, clearly not anywhere near my ability [04:49] vorian: OK. I'm heading to bed here shortly (bluetooth is all I'm going to manage tonight). [04:49] yay [04:50] sleep well then [04:53] If someone wants to do some bug stuff, all of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kde4.1.4 need tagged needs-verification. [04:58] rather verification-needed [05:00] That's it. Thanks. [05:00] * ScottK isn't very good with the paperwork. [05:01] i'm just as bad remembering tags ... (except the SRU ones; try to do a lot of SRU testing when possible) [05:03] * a|wen starts tagging while waiting for a download [05:04] ScottK: should anyone be subscribed to the bugs as well (sru-verification)? [05:04] a|wen: I think so, but I don't recall for sure. The wiki page tell all I'm pretty sure. [05:04] * ScottK really needs to get to bed. [05:08] doesn't look like it from the wiki ... but last time i had an sru where they weren't subscribed they did complain a bit [05:08] For Main, it's ubuntu-sru I think. [05:09] But I wouldn't swear to it. [05:09] Good night all. [05:09] ScottK: are the packages uploaded? [05:09] ScottK: or is it approval we are looking for? [05:10] 4.1.4 is in -proposed. [05:10] good ... thx [05:10] The update to kdebase-workspace to get bluetooth working is buildng now. [05:10] cool :) [05:10] night ScottK ;) [05:23] ScottK: all 4.1.4 bugs tagged and sru-verification subscribed [05:28] * a|wen leaves for a while ... only one inet connection and is going to upgrade his other machine to 4.1.4 === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [09:05] Riddell: I mentioned a logout problem to you a few days ago, (straight logout when clicking on the shutdown plasmoid) and you mentioned that usually happens when ksmserver has crashed. however, ksmserver is running, and its still happening. any other ideas? [09:54] jussi01: nope [09:55] Riddell: ok then. Ill file a bug :) [10:40] Riddell: if an lp:~kubuntu-members branch of a package is still listed as "unreleased" for a package that is actually released, how to go about that? [10:44] a|wen: commit the fix [10:45] a|wen: did you have a package other day that needed review? [10:45] okay, thx [10:45] Riddell: yes, kdesvn - http://awen.dk/packages/kdesvn/ [10:52] a|wen: looks fine, uploading [10:53] Riddell: thx [10:59] * a|wen- hates being kicked out due to laggy inet [11:08] a|wen-: Thanks. [11:08] sad... the only decent qt4 browser is closed source [11:09] Riddell: I messed up kdebase-workspace for Intrepid (didn't actually apparently do something I thought I had. New one in a moment.) [11:09] ScottK: np [11:10] ScottK: Riddell has just looked at kdesvn ... so you get away this time [11:10] I saw. Thanks Riddell. [11:12] ScottK: just a note ... the lase release in jaunty of kdebase-workspace wasn't committed to bzr; i've just shuffled the missing bits up (would result in a build error if you took it directly; so that might be your backporting error?) [11:13] s/lase/last/ [11:13] a|wen-: No. This is Intrepid and when I was moving my changes out of the chroot I was building in, I messed up. [11:13] * ScottK does note that someone ought to ping Tonio about that. [11:14] ScottK: okay ... then just ignore [11:14] guess I'll write those packagekit main inclusion reports [11:14] * a|wen- was about to ping Tonio ... but he wasn't there [11:19] Maybe even the NM plasmoid too .... [11:19] ScottK: does it work? [11:20] which svn still doesnt build... [11:20] although given the speed of MIRs pre-emptive is not a bad idea [11:20] Apparently not with wep, but someone said they had wpa working [11:20] err wpa2 I think. [11:21] current svn isnt building, just tried again then... [11:25] hrm, cleaned builddir and starting again. lets see if it compiles now [11:26] Riddell: Would you please accept kdebase-workspace and kdebluetooth in intrepid-proposed (kdebluetooth has a versioned build-dep so it'll just depwait until workspace builds) [11:27] ScottK: what's the bug number? [11:27] yeah, nm plasmoid, current svn still not building [11:28] Riddell: Bug 280997 [11:28] Launchpad bug 280997 in kdebase-workspace "solid-bluetooth needs update for bluez 4.x" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280997 [11:28] Back in a bit. [11:38] Riddell: I'm headed back to bed for an hour. Is there anything else you needed for workspace and bluetooth on Intrepid? [11:39] ScottK: that's fine [11:39] OK. Thanks. [11:45] vorian: new soprano is out http://soprano.sourceforge.net/node/28 [11:45] vorian: debian has packaging in their branches/kde4.2/packages/soprano/debian [11:48] ScottK: accepted (although normally only pitti is trusted to accept SRUs for main but it can't get more broken in this case) [12:03] apachelogger: kdegraphics failed to build - missing quilt as build-depends [12:03] apachelogger: can you upload the fix or should I find some other core-dev to sponsor fix upload? [12:04] * Lure needs working okular [12:06] Lure: I can if you commit to bzr [12:07] Riddell: will try (did not use new bzr model until now) [12:14] Riddell: this bat* scripts just obscure stuff - where are bzr branches for kde packages? [12:14] * Lure just want to work directly with bzr [12:16] I suspect it is lp:~kubuntu-members/kdegraphics/ubuntu [12:17] uf, but it does not have apachelogger's change in changelog... [12:17] Lure: that's the one [12:18] Riddell: ok, will merge in apacheloger's change too - it was anyhow just upload to trigger rebuild [12:18] * Lure is not sure how kdegraphics has built before withou quilt [12:19] Lure: it doesn't need quilt if there's no patches, maybe a patch was added recently? [12:19] Riddell: probably [12:19] Riddell: it is patch to fix arm build [12:19] pesky arm [12:38] Riddell: commited [12:56] Riddell: thanks. i'll grab it next [12:59] who is getting grabbed? [13:01] ScottK: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/quilt-edit-patch.ogv [13:05] apachelogger: hi, I have commited fix for kdegraphics build (missing quilt build-depends) [13:05] apachelogger: can you or Riddell upload it to get my okular working? [13:06] apachelogger: btw, your upload was not in bzr, so I merged it in from package [13:08] Lure: did you testbuild? [13:08] * apachelogger_ noticed earlier that said patch does not apply [13:09] in fact, I think the whole patches dir should be removed completely [13:09] apachelogger: no, as my overheating laptop is currenlty busy with digikam [13:09] launchpad diff from ubuntu1 to my ubuntu2 will know [13:09] Lure: just take a look at the diff [13:09] how did then ubuntu1 upload work? [13:09] without patches dir [13:09] apachelogger: so it was in bzr by accident!? [13:10] that is one of the problems that occur if ninja packaging is not centered around the branch but around the source [13:10] Lure: more like not removed at all [13:10] apachelogger: ninja packaging confuses me [13:10] +1 [13:10] * Lure uses normal bzr or debdiff rather ;-) [13:10] apachelogger: That's a start. Part of the idea though would be to not have to do the quilt add foo step. [13:11] ScottK: that would take away 45% of why quilt is superior [13:11] I'd like to be able to just toss a patch at the tmp and have it work. [13:11] if you run with -t it would take away another 45% [13:11] remaining 10 % is quilt import I suppose [13:11] ScottK: you should use import [13:12] * Riddell still not convinced quilt is superior [13:12] apachelogger: I'd say it takes away a substantial chunk of why quilt is annoying. [13:12] * Lure too [13:12] ScottK: use import :P [13:12] Riddell: in either way it is faster [13:12] apachelogger: Well that didn't work at all on the bluetooth thing [13:13] ScottK: read the doc before you try using superior software :P [13:13] I tried every -p option more than once and ended up with empty patch every time. [13:13] apachelogger: Read man quilt and the Debian how to several times. [13:13] All lack a good example of import actually working. [13:13] now that can be fixed [13:13] for now back to work [13:14] So don't bitch about my lack of reading what's not written. [13:14] It's almost like bzr. [13:14] "Why aren't you using this option that isn't actually documented. [13:15] " [13:15] I've found bzr to be very well documented [13:15] and also good enough that it doesn't need documentation [13:17] * ScottK didn't know about bzr push :parent until he asked on #bzr. [13:18] Riddell: It does have a lot of documentation. It's perhaps I don't use it enough to get through stuff like knitted double stacked branches (I know that's slightlyl made up) and what the difference is. [13:27] I noticed another thing while moving digikam package to kde4.mk: *.install are relative to debian/, while with cmake.mk (used before) it is relative to package base - is this kubuntu specific change in kde4.mk? [13:27] it's a debian kde packagers change I think [13:28] It is and it's bloody annoying. [13:28] * ScottK had to do the same change when moving quassel to kde4.mk. [13:31] bug 320028 bug 320012 bug 319998 [13:31] Launchpad bug 320028 in plasmoid-network-manager "main inclusion report for plasmoid-network-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320028 [13:31] Launchpad bug 320012 in kpackagekit "main inclusion report for kpackagekit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320012 [13:31] Launchpad bug 319998 in packagekit "main incluson report for packagekit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319998 [14:10] the network manager plasmoid wont connect to wifi networks for me :( [14:12] cbr: Using WEP? [14:40] * JontheEchidna huggles whomever is responsible for co-installable amarok and kmail [14:45] http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3216921374.html [14:45] KDE is winning ^_^ [14:52] ScottK: both with wpa-psk and no security [14:52] cbr: OK. Recently WEP was reported not working. [14:53] i went back to nm-applet [14:53] works fine except it wont connect to wifi network @ one building in school [14:53] but that's a linux issue for some reason [14:53] doesnt work with network-manager nor wicd [14:54] windows people dont have problems [15:01] cbr: whats type of your wifi module [15:02] intel's 3945abg [15:02] but another guy uses kubuntu on his laptop too and i doubt he has the same wifi hardware [15:03] but it fails for him too [15:03] cbr: mine intel 4965 works fine [15:03] it kind of associates with the AP but can't get DHCP reply [15:03] it just waits for it and fails [15:03] with nm or wicd, wep/wpa [15:04] yeah, works for me for most networks too [15:04] but fails @ that building [15:04] the only thing that's different from most networks is that it's 802.11a [15:05] it also supports some handover function between AP's [15:05] but dont know whether that's relevant [15:07] cbr: it may be some timeout issue (slow dhcp response) [15:07] cbr: timeouts were raised a bit with 0.7, but may not be enough for all AP [15:08] can i somehow manually change it to test? [15:08] cbr: I had one AP, that did not work with pre-0.7 due to it [15:08] cbr: not sure - check network-manager package changelog fr coment and then inspect the diff to see what have changed [15:09] cbr: it may be that it was actually accepted upstream (as I also recall a thread on networkmanager mailing list) [15:10] cbr: from changelog: make manual regristration timeout patch out of automatic one (which [15:10] was applied upstream) [15:11] cbr: bug 303142 may have more info [15:11] Launchpad bug 303142 in network-manager "3G [Option] some modems take a while time to register on network (CREG)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303142 [15:12] or better bug 292054 [15:12] Launchpad bug 292054 in network-manager "Some drivers take too long to associate (Was: network-manager 0.7 always asks for WPA passphrase)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292054 [15:13] cbr: it looks it is hardcoded... [15:13] :-( [15:14] that network isn't encrypted though [15:14] no wpa/wep [15:15] * Lure is not sure if wpasupplicant is not used there to to kick dhcp request... [15:17] cbr: according to src/dhcp-manager/nm-dhcp-manager.c, dhcp timeout is 45 sec [15:17] the retries occur more often imo [15:17] but yeah, eventually it just fails.. so dunno [15:18] cbr: so in less than 45 sec? [15:18] cbr: does it take long also for windows users? [15:18] haven't asked really [15:19] well the whole thing times out in 45 seconds maybe.. but there are several requests like every 10 seconds [15:19] dont know about dhcp, does the previous request get superseded by a new one or how does it go [15:28] cbr: the problem with dhcp is that is it udp, so in a wifi environment maybe with a lot of traffic, they easily get lost [15:33] i doubt there's very much traffic [15:33] there are a lot of ap's [15:34] could also get lost in the network behind the AP's ... but hard to know [15:58] Riddell, apachelogger, rgreening: plasmoid-network-manager seems to build again and received a HUDGE number of changes... [15:59] I'm uploading an update right now so that everyone can test [15:59] Riddell: also uploading kpackagekit if nobody did [15:59] Tonio_: go ahead [15:59] Tonio_: I did the MIRs [16:00] ScottK: it must be documented somewhere, otherwise I wouldn't know it [16:00] * apachelogger doesn't read bash source :P [16:01] Tonio_: \o/ [16:02] ScottK: kdebase-workspace committed to bzr with the notification configuration dialog ... i've tested the patch on intrepid (made a local backport) [16:05] if anybody wants to test it, it's build for both intrepid as well as jaunty in my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive [16:06] a|wen: notification configuration dialog? [16:06] Riddell: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/331/diff/ [16:07] cor [16:08] a|wen: do you know upstream's opinion of that patch? [16:08] Riddell: the MIRs ? all of them ? [16:08] Tonio_: I just built the plasmoid nm :) [16:09] Riddell: Aaron Seigo said "Ship it!" [16:09] Riddell: yeah, he indicated it would be main for 4.3 [16:10] a|wen: that's encouragement :) [16:10] Riddell: exactly my though :) [16:10] Tonio_: bug 320028 bug 320012 bug 319998 [16:10] Launchpad bug 320028 in plasmoid-network-manager "main inclusion report for plasmoid-network-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320028 [16:10] Launchpad bug 320012 in kpackagekit "main inclusion report for kpackagekit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320012 [16:10] Launchpad bug 319998 in packagekit "main incluson report for packagekit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319998 [16:13] Riddell: rocking ! [16:17] Riddell: sorry for the delay for the MIRs... I was too tired yesterday to go on that :) I left the work at about 21... [16:19] a|wen: Great. [16:19] Riddell: I think we ought to include the notification control in our 4.2.0 package. [16:21] ScottK: yes should be good, just want to make sure upstream are happy [16:21] kpackagekit uploaded [16:22] plasmoid-network-manager too [16:22] do we know if there will be an rc2 ... or when 4.2 will arrive? [16:23] Riddell: k3b seems to work pretty decent and I mostly finished the packaging, fyi [16:23] Riddell: could be uploaded this we probably [16:23] a|wen: 4.2.0 is tagged [16:23] Tonio_: i had no issues with the .deb you provided me [16:23] they worked fin on my box [16:23] ScottK: oh; so packaging has begun? [16:23] Tonio_: packaged as k3b or k3b-kde4 ? [16:24] a|wen: yes it has, in the secret channel if you want to help [16:24] Riddell: just got an invite from ScottK [16:25] wow a secret channel :) [16:25] Only for dealing with unreleased upstream tarballs. [16:26] Tonio_: I successfuly burned a DVD with k3b. looks to be fine. [16:26] Tonio_: i burned a CD fine with it, no issues [16:48] is devicekit better than hal or smth? [16:50] Tonio_: I burned an iso, went fine, but md5 was not checked [16:51] neversfelde: is your crap uploaded yet? [16:51] cbr: it is hal just named *kit :P [16:52] apachelogger: no, I had to add get-orig-source rules and several other things [16:53] neversfelde: urlies please [16:53] urlies? [16:59] neversfelde: urls I imagine [16:59] (hi) [16:59] neversfelde: good point ;) [17:00] Riddell: I plan to finish the all k3b packaging for tomorrow, and then will also look at partitionmanager [17:01] apachelogger: http://tinyurl.com/a7u6s7 and http://tinyurl.com/cj9ml5 [17:03] ScottK: do you really think a get-orig-source for kde-look hosted stuff is worth the effort? [17:04] apachelogger: I think if we figured it once, it'd make things much easier in the future. I'm willing to accept it's more trouble than it's worth. [17:05] ScottK: it would have to be hardlocked to $upload [17:05] so there wouldn't be any benefit but being able to redownload the tarball [17:06] OK. Maybe not worth it. [17:06] :) [17:08] neversfelde: that patch header for the plasmoid... did you add that with quilt? [17:08] apachelogger: no, should I? [17:09] no, I just wanted to sign you up for documenting that :P [17:09] neversfelde: does that get-orig target work? [17:10] mv windowslist_0.3 plasmoid-windowslist.orig ... looks phony [17:10] so does rm -rf plasmoid-windowslist.orig [17:10] apachelogger: mhh, that was new to me, I will look into it again [17:11] neversfelde: well, you should at least testrun stuff :P [17:11] make -f debian/rules get-orig-source [17:12] neversfelde: btw, if you end every line with ; \ [17:12] you don't have to do ../ all the time [17:12] * ScottK confesses to have asked for a get-orig-source and forgot to specify 'working'. [17:13] ScottK: could you unsubscribe ubuntu-sponsors-main from bug 177652 [17:13] Launchpad bug 177652 in k3b "Typo in K3b : Apppended" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177652 [17:13] well, there is not much point in a broken one ;-) [17:14] Sure [17:14] I'd have thought that, but who know. [17:14] Riddell: Done. [17:15] thanks [17:26] neversfelde: general note about get-orig-source targets ... if you can't implement them in a way that they can easily bumped for a new upstream release, there is little reason to do them at all [17:26] the other reason I could think of would removing binary blob [17:28] I do not understand these rules atm [17:30] * ScottK notes http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=312 and wonders if this ought to be integrated into something. [17:32] ScottK: can we add the package to the desktop seed? or make a recommends of system-settings? [17:33] rgreening: Needs a MIR first. [17:33] Dunno how big it is, but if there's a convenient package already in main that could be patched, it'd save space and avoid a MIR. [17:33] * ScottK didn't look at the code. [17:33] apachelogger: when I repackaged the source, a get-orig-source rule is absolutely necessary, isn't it? [17:37] ScottK: It's small (python) < 11K src, < 5K deb, ~66K installed [17:38] ScottK: works fine here. [17:38] neversfelde: well, you only should repack the source when you need to remove non-free stuff anyway [17:39] apachelogger: I did it, because of wrong directory layout [17:39] neversfelde: wrong directory layout? [17:40] ScottK: It also requires python-xkit as a dep [17:40] Oh. Well we need that for jockey anyway [17:40] cool. then its a no brainer [17:41] apachelogger: the unpacked dir is windowslist_0.3, so I renamed to plasmoid-windowslist-0.3 and packed it again [17:42] ScottK: what do you mean "integrated into something"? [17:42] neversfelde: unnecessary [17:42] apachelogger: ok, only rename the directory? [17:42] seele: Not a separate package [17:42] neversfelde: not at all [17:42] ScottK: install it. [17:43] neversfelde: it wouldn't even matter if the unpacked dir is called "foobar" ... everyone but you will use dpkg-source to extract the source package, and that takes care the dir is named properly [17:43] ScottK: i think that's just for now [17:43] ScottK: dontzap is the interface to editing the xorg.conf and can be run cmdline. [17:43] It's looks integrated into system settings from users perspective. [17:44]