[00:03] <ubuntu_> hallo
[00:03] <ubuntu_> habe ein problem mit kubuntu 8.10
[00:03] <ubuntu_> genauer gesagt ein problem mit der grafik
[00:03] <ubuntu_> ist hier jemand der mir helfen kann?
[00:04] <wesley_> Nein, du hast to sprech engels, das eine oder germaanse tale
[00:05] <ubuntu_> hallo
[00:05] <wesley_> hallo
[00:06] <ubuntu_> habe ein problem mit kubuntu 8.10 und zwar mit der grafik
[00:06] <wesley_> was fur eine grafik karte had du then ?
[00:06] <ubuntu_> habe eine ati x1950 pro graka
[00:07] <wesley_> ati is sheise, du kans google auf deine ati
[00:07] <ubuntu_> aufm laptop läufts ohne probleme, aber auf pc mit ati nur probleme
[00:07] <wesley_> #ubuntu-de
[00:07] <wesley_> Ich bin immitating german sprache, so kan dich nich hilfen
[00:08] <ubuntu_> ah ok
[00:08] <ubuntu_> kennst du das problem denn?
[00:19] <cjae> anyone know how to put panel on tvout (nvidia twinview?
[00:19] <cjae> +s
[00:30] <trepan_> Anyone know how to fix the touchpad in Kubuntu Intrepid?  I don't see a touch pad setting anywhere.  I can fix it with the mouse settings but then it screws up my mouse when I use that
[00:32] <Goan> Hello. Is there a way in Kubuntu that I keep on working on a local file and once I save my file locally, some sort of software syncs that version of the file on a remote host - that I can ssh to
[00:34] <faileas> Goan: rsync and something to run it every so often
[00:34] <faileas> possibly dropbox might work, but on kubuntu you're stuck with the cli interface i think
[00:35] <Goan> It is a pain to keep scp'ing the saved file to the remote host, once after making changes locally
[00:36] <faileas> hmm, or unison?
[00:37] <faileas> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ (there's a package too but good to read to see if its what you need)
[00:42] <Goan> tks faileas, i'll have a look at it
[00:42] <Goan> ever came across kernel panics with caps lock flashing?
[00:43] <Goan> since last week, i am experiencing a lots of those
[00:44] <Goan> don't know if it is hardware or software issue.. called up lenovo t61 tech support, and they adviced me to unplug the hdd and plug it back in properly
[00:44] <Goan> will try it tonight
[00:45] <faileas> nope
[00:45] <faileas> i run an r61. only issue i have at the moment is everything not linux hating my ext3 partition ;)
[00:45] <Goan> hehe.. no problem here
[00:46] <faileas> (i run xp too. ext3 ifs, and acronis throw a fit at it. forums say its the inode size.... )
[00:48] <marcel> i can find on net an another KMix sound Mixer ?
[00:48] <marcel> i need that for 5.1 boxes
[00:48] <marcel> now i have just 4 channels mode
[00:49] <marcel> and i need for 5.1 mode
[00:54] <marcel> hello
[00:54] <marcel> netsplit
[01:00] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> KMix doesn't mute sound. 64-bit Hardy, SBLive Audigy 2 ZS
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> do the sliders modify the sound volume ok
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> ?
[01:06] <lunar-raven> I'm having trouble compiling my video card driver. It is integrated video..some sort of intel. I got the right driver for it..but when I try, I get the error "The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules. Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on what went wrong."
[01:06] <lunar-raven> any idea what is wrong and how to fix it?
[01:06] <lunar-raven> :P
[01:07] <lunar-raven> I'm assuming I need to install some sort of kernel module first..but im not sure what
[01:07] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> ActionParsnip: Yes, they do
[01:07] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> But the mute function does nothing
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Blitzz|Kubuntu: are you using pulse or alsa?
[01:08]  * n00bi3 was waken up by the frosty cold weather
[01:08] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> I have KDE set using OSS. I honestly don't even know which sound system is being used now. It might be using ALSA. :S
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[01:08] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> Pulse doesn't seem to be on here
[01:08]  * n00bi3 has a real cool dream about giant b00bs!
[01:11] <bazhang> n00bi3, not here
[01:12] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> ActionParsnip: Where do I look?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Blitzz|Kubuntu: its in the sound settings in systemsettings
[01:13] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> Yeah, I've been there, I just didn't know if it actually had any effect
[01:13] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> It's set on OSS
[01:14] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> It also seems that some programs have noticeable sound lag, while others don't
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Blitzz|Kubuntu: creative support is very limited, even in windows
[01:15] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> Latency was fine in Windows...
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Blitzz|Kubuntu: i dont know what to advise. I flat out avoid them as the support sucks hard
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Blitzz|Kubuntu: try again later, diferent users in the channel etc
[01:21] <faileas> hmm. If i kept my home directory synchronised between two systems, would it keep track of what i've read on akrigator, and my firefox history?
[01:21] <alipio> hi there... when I try to configure samba share through dolphin nothing happens
[01:21] <alipio> when I try to run kdesudo kcmshell4 fileshare I get
[01:21] <alipio> kcmshell(22452) KServiceFactory::findServiceByDesktopPath: "findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found"
[01:22] <alipio> Can anybody help me?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> faileas: just share your home directory and smbmount it to use it on the 2 systems. I'd imagine if you did use sync then the settings would fly over too including history etc
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> alipio: i can show you how to configure samba using smb.conf, its ridiculously easy
[01:23] <faileas> ActionParsnip: naw, its for backing up. i MIGHT need to temporarily wipe my linux partition
[01:23] <jammen33> alipio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[01:24] <alipio> I know.. but I'd want to learn my brother to configure that through GUI
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> alipio: i only know the file, I can send you mine to inspect if you like
[01:25] <faileas> ActionParsnip: the plan is to use unison to test it. if it works, its cool but i can't be bothered to test something that dosen't work right at this moment
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> faileas: sounds like a project
[01:26] <faileas> ActionParsnip: actually no. getting a decent backup of my laptop is. ;p
[01:26] <alipio> ActionParsnip: It's not necessary... but thanks.. I'm going to configure the file for him... but I'd want to know if there is a bug in kubuntu kdenetwork-fileshare package or something like that...
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> faileas: i just cron a cp task to run at 5am, simple yet effective
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> alipio: you could try later if you arent in a massive hurry
[01:27] <amelie> hi
[01:27] <faileas> ActionParsnip: not as fun ;)
[01:27] <amelie> i want to know how do i get disk information on the console
[01:27] <faileas> and i can do this over a network
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> faileas: smbmount and cp
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> amelie: what sort of info do you need?
[01:28] <faileas> ActionParsnip: not as fun ;p
[01:28] <alipio> amelie: how what? disk space?
[01:29] <faileas> and any changes on one homedir is automagically propagated on the other
[01:29] <alipio> df -h
[01:29] <amelie> yes
[01:29] <amelie> disk space
[01:29]  * n00b13 has a real cool dream about giant b00bs!
[01:30] <amelie> thank you very much alipio
[01:30] <alipio> ok
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> amelie: df -h will show disk usage, the -h means humanly readable
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> amelie: if you want to view partition info there is: sudo fdisk -l
[01:33] <amelie> thanks
[01:33] <matisse> Is there a way to download the sent mails (which were sent via web interface) ?
[01:33] <amelie> you guys are very kind
[01:33] <amelie> thank you very much
[01:35] <Goan> If I start updating from hardy to intrepid, could I loose my data during the process .. in case lets say, there is an error or something during installation
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> Goan: shouldnt be, if you want, run your backup just before the update but it is very much a safe process imho
[01:38] <Goan> Is there a backup utility that I can use?
[01:39] <TweakedEh> Is swap just as good as ram?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> TweakedEh: its a tonne slower but if you need the capacity its cool
[01:40] <TweakedEh> ActionParsnip: alright, Thanks.
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> TweakedEh: its like the pagefile in windows
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> TweakedEh: except windows is isnt smart enough to have it on its own partition so it can affect fragmentation
[01:42] <TweakedEh> ActionParsnip: Lol, So would it still be worth it to go out and get a new ram card?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> TweakedEh: if you need extra ram for activities, grab some. its cheap
[01:45] <faileas> ActionParsnip: well in theory you can have a windows style swap file ;p
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> faileas: true
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> faileas: i'd rather have it on a different disk, extra speed
[01:47] <faileas> ActionParsnip: and i think a poweruser of windows can move the pagefile to its own partition
[01:47] <faileas> a lot of sillyness is mainly cause they chose a different approach ;)
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> faileas: well the default user model is admin so you should be ok :D
[01:56] <faileas> ActionParsnip: i don't run it that way ;p
[01:57]  * faileas insists on 2-3 accounts (admin for maintainance, user, one account for VMs on vmware server running boxen)
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> faileas: true but standard idiots do and then they moan the get system issues
[02:00] <faileas> ActionParsnip: ;) ... and there's a reason why we have a !root factoid here ;p
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> indeed
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> few windows kids learn
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> then jump into ubuntu and enable root and login to it to browse the web etc
[02:17] <PSiL0> !gtk
[02:23] <TweakedEh> Woot, Lost season 5 is on =]
[02:46] <luis__> hello guys good nite all of you, can somebody help me pls
[02:49] <luis__> i just install kubuntu 8.04.1 so i am so new in here and i cant find mozilla, and also i was looking on google and all they said konsole, sudo aptitude(apt-get) install frefox mozilla whatever the rest might be but it just wont work
[02:49] <luis__> so how can i install mozilla on kubuntu help plss???
[02:49] <Dr_willis> !firefox
[02:49] <luis__> i cant
[02:49] <Dr_willis> its right there in the package manager tools.. a few clicks and it isntalls...
[02:50] <Dr_willis> firefox - meta package for the popular mozilla web browser
[02:51] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:51] <luis__> that dont work
[02:51] <Dr_willis> then why dont you tell us some more info.. it works for most everyone else....
[02:51] <luis__> it say that it couldnt find any package with that name
[02:52] <Dr_willis> update the package manager listing, upgrade, and try again
[02:52] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[02:52] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:52] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:52] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[02:52] <Dr_willis> its in the 'main' repo - so that shouldent be a problem
[02:54] <luis__> DR. Willis if i do the second comman (sudo apt-get upgrade) it means it will upgrade the systm to the newest kubuntu intrepid?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> it will upgrade to the latest  stuff yes.. if you are using intrepid
[02:55] <luis__> no
[02:55] <Dr_willis> if you are not using intrepid.. then it wull upgrade whatever release you are using
[02:55] <luis__> see this is my problem for somereason i do have the latest kubuntu but it wont start
[02:56] <luis__> that is why i decided to install the previous one
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Most likely some driver issue
[02:56] <Dr_willis> If you are using the older one.. upgrade will NOT force you to upgrade to intrepid
[02:57] <luis__> i mean i did install kubuntu intrepid and everything seems just find but then when it reboot after user and password the screen freeze
[02:57] <Dr_willis> sounds like a driver issue to me
[02:58] <Dr_willis> work time for me. bye.. good luck
[02:58] <luis__> hello thanks a lot DR WILLIS  after done what you say is installing it
[03:07] <zicada> not strictly a kubuntu question, but there might be a commandline ninja lurking
[03:07] <zicada> basically i have a text file with 100 email adresses, that i need to send the same email to
[03:07] <zicada> and no, its not spam, just a big community
[03:07] <zicada> picked them out of a mysql db
[03:08] <zicada> any command line tool that can take that file as input ?
[03:20] <derjens> hello everyone
[03:20] <derjens> i have just activated two finger scrolling on my T61
[03:20] <derjens> unfortunately it scrolls back to the last position when removing both fingers at once
[03:21] <derjens> i can only scroll correctly when removing the fingers one after another -- this is pretty annoying
[03:21] <derjens> you have any ideas how to prevent that?
[03:35] <PyleDriver> My wireless only works occasionally. I have an intel 3945 card. it works fine in windows and a belkin card works every time. any ideas?
[04:04] <genii> The 3945 are notoriously horrible on linux. You could try ndiswrapper but I doubt it would help much
[04:05] <PyleDriver> i've noticed the terrifying amount of forum posts on it. i've pretty much come to the conclusion that it just won't work reliably
[04:06] <Fragility> so I reinstalled kubuntu, actually only a temporary install to download a new livecd etc, and my nvidia 6600 is stuck at 640 resolution after running envyng (and 800 was the highest it could go before)
[04:06] <genii> PyleDriver: If you already have a backup adapter I'd just disable it or so
[04:06] <Fragility> it sees my GPU and the drive and wont go above 640 resolution
[04:07] <Fragility> on 8.4 right now
[04:10] <Name141> is it possible to install Kubuntu through Wubi in more than 30 itty bitty GBs?
[04:12] <PyleDriver> genii: the belkin card is an external one that i can plug in if the 3945 isn't working
[04:17] <vbgunz> I am currently using a 32bit processor. I plan on getting a 64. I see kubuntu supports it at the downloads. what about it being multicore? don't I need something else for this?
[04:19] <p_quarles> vbgunz: no, current kernels support multi-core processors
[04:21] <vbgunz> p_quarles: so I get the 64bit download, install, and the latest kernel automatically picks up on all cores?
[04:21] <p_quarles> vbgunz: yep, been that way for awhile now
[04:22] <vbgunz> sweet. damn, I love it
[04:23] <genii> No more separate smp kernel
[04:28] <gartral> hello, im trying to install a game from a cd (UT 2004) and its saying i have no write perms to  /usr/local/games, and this is with running the install script with sudo
[04:33] <genii> gartral: sudo -i                    then run it. then: exit
[04:34] <genii> genii: You'll need to cd to the dir it's in, sudo -i puts you in the root users home dir
[04:34] <genii> gartral:  You'll need to cd to the dir it's in, sudo -i puts you in the root users home dir
[04:34] <genii> Bah. bad tab-complete ....
[04:35] <gartral> well, i cant do that, because the way the script runs, it locks the tray, and wont eject the disk (and when theres 5 cds too go throgh, you kind of need to eject)
[04:39] <gartral> er, at least i cant run the script from the cd, or it will do that
[04:41] <khalidmian> looking for information regarding installation of amarok new version pls help
[04:42] <gartral> ok, if the script is on my desktop the cd path would be /home/[name]/desktop , right?
[04:43] <nikalaos> so guys.. i did something pretty stupid >.<.
[04:43] <nikalaos> changed my home folder
[04:43] <nikalaos> without changing the user name
[04:43] <nikalaos> so i couldn't log in at all
[04:44] <nikalaos> i created a new user and deleted the old one
[04:44] <nikalaos> now i can't seem to get sudo priviliges..
[04:44] <blocky> when i press ctrl tab and ctrl f4 in firefox it doesnt do anything
[04:44] <blocky> how can i change this behavior
[04:45] <khalidmian> can anyone assist in telling me how to get amarok 2.0.1.1 via sudo command
[04:45] <gartral> blocky: whats ctrl+F4 supposed too do, as far as i see, it doesnt do squat in any web browser
[04:46] <blocky> coses current tab
[04:46] <blocky> closes rather
[04:46] <blocky> does so in windows on most browsers
[04:47] <gartral> not for me >.>
[04:48] <gartral> are you thinking _shift_+F4?
[04:49] <gartral> ohh wait, nvm, im rambling like a fool
[04:49]  * gartral wears a dunce cap and halds a "disregard" sign
[04:50]  * nikalaos sighs
[04:50] <gartral> ok, if the script is on my desktop the cd path would be /home/[name]/desktop , right?
[04:51] <nikalaos> crap, I hate my luck >.<
[04:51] <gartral> or more properly the command would be cd /home/]name]/desktop to get to the dir, right?
[04:53] <dope> if i make a change to the iptables do i have to restart networking?
[04:54] <nikalaos> hey guys how do i add a user to "sudoers"
[04:54] <setuid_w00t> How can I tell which swap partition I am using?
[04:54] <nikalaos> more specifically when i deleted the only account in the "sudoers" group to begin ith 0.o
[04:56] <gartral> nikalaos: easiest thing i can think of is to reinstall... but there may be another way
[04:56] <nikalaos> damn... that sucks
[04:56] <nikalaos> guess third time really is the charm >.<
[04:57] <setuid_w00t> nevemind
[04:57] <gartral> lol... this is why you should take regular backups
[04:57] <nikalaos> lol backups wouldn't have helped me too much
[04:57] <nikalaos> i just started like two days ago.
[04:58] <nikalaos> first i burned a bad cd so my install didn't work properly
[04:58] <nikalaos> then i mistyped a username and messed up trying to fix it so this is my third lol
[04:58] <TweakedEh> I got a new keyboard. The vloume buttons works but they play/pause does not work with VLC, any ideas? I'm messing with the 'Hotkeys settings' but nothing seems to be working.
[04:58] <gartral> nikalaos: it common pratice to do a _complete_ image backup of your drives after your enviroment is up... at least, is for me, it saved me from similar
[04:59] <nikalaos> ah
[05:00] <nikalaos> well anyway
[05:00] <nikalaos> thanks for your help again guys
[05:00] <nikalaos> its nice to be out of the windows enviroment finally lol
[05:02] <gartral> and its _still_ saying i dont have write perms to /usr/local/games
[05:03] <JohnFlux> gartral: what are you trying to do sorry?
[05:04] <gartral> install unreal tourny 2004
[05:04] <gartral> from the CDs
[05:04] <JohnFlux> what's the command that you're using?
[05:04] <JohnFlux> to install it
[05:05] <gartral> cd /home/[name]/desktop && sudo install.sh (using "[name]" so i dont give my username away here >.>)
[05:08] <gartral> and yes, the script is smart enough too look fer the cdrom, and run from anywhere, but theres no reason i cant write too the games dir once sudo 'd
[05:08] <JohnFlux> gartral: strange
[05:09] <gartral> very... and im worried...
[05:09] <JohnFlux> gartral: you could change the permissions of /usr/local/games
[05:09] <gartral> is there a way too get adept too do it?
[05:09] <JohnFlux> gartral: but I have no idea why it's not working
[05:09] <gartral> i did, A+X
[05:10] <gartral> is there a way to get adept to do it?
[05:10] <gartral> or add/remove
[05:15] <akii> does anyone know anything about oasis media player?  if so, how can i put music to it and other thing's that i would like in linux???
[05:17] <skii> does anyone know anything about oasis media player?  if so, how can i put music to it and other thing's that i would like in linux???
[05:17] <jammen33> i know nothing
[05:17] <gartral> skii: please dont double post
[05:18] <skii> how else am i gonna get someone to answer me than
[05:18] <skii> lol
[05:18] <skii> ^_^
[05:18] <skii> lol
[05:18] <gartral> skii: stop flooding, please
[05:18] <skii> can't u take a joke
[05:18] <skii> i guess not!!!
[05:19] <gartral> this is a dev/help channel, please take this too kubuntu-community
[05:19] <skii> i guess someone has there panties in a twiest
[05:19] <skii> i'm in kubuntu channel
[05:20] <skii> an i would like some help with that i'm ask'n for so do NOT be a dick or u will find one very ticked off person!!!
[05:20] <gartral> yes, this is kubuntu, i directed you to kubuntu-community, theres a BIG differebce
[05:21] <skii> like i care i don't wanna talk to u any more so go away
[05:21] <gartral> continue this, and youll find a bunche of ticked people, so...
[05:21] <skii> if u do NOT wanna help me out then leave me alone!!!
[05:23] <gartral> first off, as far as "help" goes, you asked if we knew of stuff *you* would like, that is a matter of personal opinion, and not something we would know, second, the oasis media play is buggy, and still in early stages of development last i knew, i recomend Amarok, which is already on your system if your running any recent kubuntu
[05:24] <skii> what u r like 5 yr's old?  stop being a dick and if u r gonna help me out then do so but if u r NOT then leave me alone cuz i really do not wanna punish a 5 yr for being bad!!!
[05:25] <PyleDriver> ok i have a .tar.gz for openoffice. how/where do i extract it?
[05:27] <skii> now when i say that i have a oasis media play i do mean it's a MEDIA PLAYER aka MP3 PLAYER
[05:27] <skii> how can ppl be so dumb these day's
[05:27] <skii> !!!
[05:27]  * gartral looks around, "as far as I see, your the 5 year old, especially by your in-unique sense of grammar"
[05:28] <skii> why don't u get down on ur kneess and open wide cuz that's all ur be do'n tonight!!!
[05:28] <skii> NOW DO U WANNA STOP OR GO ON WITH THIS!!!!!!!
[05:29] <gartral> ok, well its not my fault that theres both a DAP and software called "oasis media player" and second, to load music too it from kubuntu, the easiest way would be through Amarok, especially if the device is MTP based
[05:31] <skii> it is but everytime i try to put music to it my computer alway's restart's by it's self and i wanna know how to stop that from keep happening!!!
[05:31] <setuid_w00t> I moved Kununtu on to a new hard drive.  On my old hard drive, I was dual-booting windows and kubuntu.  I would now like to be able to boot Windows (which still exists on the old hard drive) from grub.
[05:31] <setuid_w00t> Why would it have stopped working?  I updated the menu.lst to point at the right partition for windows
[05:32] <jammen33> windows might be trting the wrong hard drive
[05:32] <setuid_w00t> Is the fact that grub is in the MBR on the old hard drive screwing things up?
[05:33] <gartral> the device _probably_ needs a windows based transfer client then, and is totally incompatible with linux
[05:33] <setuid_w00t> jammen33: That is quite likely
[05:33] <jammen33> if the new drive is set to be the master drive windows migth be use to be on that and there for can not load
[05:33] <skii> it does the same when i go to window's
[05:34] <skii> so i am sol no matter wat i do and i just got the damn thing too
[05:34] <PyleDriver> how do I install a program from a .tar.gz file?
[05:34] <gartral> skii: then the device is faulty, ide send it too the manufacture for a replacment
[05:34] <jammen33> PyleDriver: is it source or bin?
[05:34] <setuid_w00t> hmm.  I have seen some posts about using the repair functionality of the windows XP CD.  Maybe I'll try that.  I'm a bit nervous about it blowing away all of my linux data though
[05:35] <faileas> PyleDriver: untar it, read the readme
[05:35] <skii> i just got it today cuz my other didn't work ither and that was a creative zen v plus
[05:35] <jammen33> setuid_w00t: it will change the mbr
[05:35] <gartral> skii: try every USB port?
[05:35] <gartral> sometimes a faulty port can cause wierd things
[05:36] <PyleDriver> jammen33: bin faileas:thanks
[05:36] <setuid_w00t> jammen33: yes, but hopefully only on the disk I want it to
[05:36] <jammen33> setuid_w00t: it will change it on the primary harddrive im farly sure
[05:37] <setuid_w00t> jammen33: I think I'll unplug that one then  :)
[05:37] <jammen33> setuid_w00t: what i would do is set the windows drive to primary and have grub set to boot linux off the other
[05:38] <jammen33> so windows will be happy
[05:38] <skii> ok i'll try every usb port but what if that doesn't work then what???
[05:38] <setuid_w00t> jammen33: That's another option...
[05:39] <jammen33> setuid_w00t: i think that might be the easist
[05:39] <gartral> then its a bad device, or see if it has an MSC mode in its firmware
[05:39] <setuid_w00t> jammen33: thanks for the ideas
[05:39] <jammen33> setuid_w00t: np
[05:56] <gartral> is there a logbot still?
[05:57] <PSiL0> !pulseaudio
[05:58] <jammen33> !firefox
[05:58] <jammen33> !lde
[05:58] <jammen33> !kde
[06:06] <solid_liq> !kde4
[06:07] <jammen33> !kopete
[06:07] <TheElevated> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Kubuntu and I ran into a bit of trouble.
[06:08] <TheElevated> Anyone here?
[06:08] <jammen33> whats teh prblem
[06:08] <TheElevated> I'm getting the "No root file system" error
[06:09] <TheElevated> It's my first linux installation, ever, on a laptop that already has Vista.
[06:09] <gartral> too set a system dir a writable its chmod A+X right?
[06:09] <jammen33> TheElevated: are you wanting to keep vista?
[06:09] <TheElevated> Preferably, yes.
[06:10] <TheElevated> I have the laptop with me, so I can do anything on it in real-time, so to speak.
[06:10] <jammen33> TheElevated: are you using the manual or guided partitioning?
[06:10] <TheElevated> Guided
[06:10] <TheElevated> Manual*
[06:10] <TheElevated> Guided sees my entire drive as a single partition, while it came with two (visible) and one I just found out about when I clicked on manual.
[06:11] <jammen33> have you created a parttion you want to install kubuntu on?
[06:11] <TheElevated> I have a partition with sufficient space and no other OSes installed there.
[06:11] <TheElevated> But it was already present when I bought the laptop.
[06:12] <jammen33> ok so click on it and click edit
[06:12] <TheElevated> And then?
[06:12] <jammen33> oyou will also need a swap partition
[06:12] <p_quarles> gartral: chmod a+x - it's case sensitive
[06:12] <TheElevated> I'm guessing that's the third partition that I just discovered.
[06:12] <jammen33> quite posibly
[06:13] <jammen33> under edit
[06:13] <jammen33> hold on
[06:14] <TheElevated> Okay, I'm there. For "new partition size in megabytes," I entered its previous size, use as "ntfs", don't format and mount point, my options are /dos and /windows
[06:15] <jammen33> is that your windows partition?
[06:15] <TheElevated> No, that's the non-OS partition.
[06:15] <TheElevated> The one I intend to install it in.
[06:16] <jammen33> ok select use as Ext3
[06:16] <jammen33> and mount point as '/'
[06:16] <TheElevated> What effect will that have on the data in that partition?
[06:16] <jammen33> it will erease it
[06:16] <TheElevated> Well, that would seem like an issue.
[06:16] <TheElevated> Is there any way I could avoid that?
[06:17] <jammen33> if you boot back into window and run tthe cd
[06:18] <jammen33> you will be given an option to us ewubi
[06:18] <jammen33> wubo*
[06:18] <jammen33> ...
[06:18] <TheElevated> wubo?
[06:18] <jammen33> wubi*
[06:18] <TheElevated> sudo?
[06:18] <TheElevated> wubi?
[06:18] <TheElevated> Regardless of how it's spelled, what is it?
[06:18] <jammen33> it will let you install kubuntu inside windows
[06:19] <TheElevated> It claims that'll result in slower performance.
[06:19] <setuid_w00t> Does Intrepid support reading and writing of ext4 filesystems?
[06:19] <jammen33> !ext4
[06:19] <jammen33> idk
[06:19] <PSiL0> setuid: jaunty does
[06:19] <setuid_w00t> I noticed that mkfs.ext4 is available
[06:19] <setuid_w00t> that's why I asked
[06:20] <setuid_w00t> jammen33: I got windows to boot by having grub fake that windows was the first drive
[06:21] <faileas> is there any way to set inode size during install or to change the inode size of a current install for an ext3 partition?
[06:21] <jammen33> setuid_w00t: thats good
[06:21] <TheElevated> jammen33, if I use Ext3, format the partition, will Windows then be able to read whatever else I put there?
[06:21] <jammen33> no and yes
[06:22] <jammen33> by default it wont
[06:22] <jammen33> but you can get drivers
[06:22] <TheElevated> Is there some advantage of using Ext3 over NTFS?
[06:23] <faileas> TheElevated: most of the ext3 drivers for windows won't work in intrepid
[06:23] <TheElevated> I have no idea what intrepid is.
[06:24] <jammen33> faileas: i have one that works
[06:24] <faileas> TheElevated: the current release version of ubuntu
[06:24] <faileas> jammen33: which one?
[06:24] <jammen33> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:24] <faileas> the fsdriver one is broked for me
[06:24] <jammen33> its ext2
[06:24] <faileas> it asks me if i want to reformat. according to the forums its a result of the inode size that newer linux distros use
[06:25] <jammen33> ok
[06:25] <TheElevated> Well, NTFS seems like less headache and more compatability.
[06:25] <setuid_w00t> In case anyone was curious, Intrepid can create, but not mount ext4
[06:25] <jammen33> thats ood
[06:25] <faileas> TheElevated: in my opinion, go for NTFS if you'll use windows more, and ext3 if you use linx more
[06:25] <JohnFlux> TheElevated: NTFS is really slow
[06:25] <faileas> *linux
[06:25] <JohnFlux> TheElevated: in linux
[06:26] <faileas> JohnFlux: actually ntfs3g is quite fast
[06:26] <JohnFlux> faileas: hmm, I saw some benchmarks of it compared to ext3
[06:26] <TheElevated> faileas, yea, adding 3G to anything makes it faster, ;)
[06:26] <JohnFlux> about twice as slow
[06:26] <JohnFlux> faileas: although maybe that wasn't ntfs3g but the other driver
[06:26] <faileas> wierd. i remember the early version being about as fast
[06:26] <JohnFlux> I forget
[06:26] <JohnFlux> okay cool
[06:27] <faileas> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/performance.html
[06:28] <TheElevated> So, of all the options, which is the best?
[06:29] <TheElevated> Also, if I, for example, transfer everything on that partition to my PC's HDD (NTFS), could I then transfer it back quickly/painlessly to the newly formatted Ext3 partition?
[06:32] <noaXess> good morning..
[06:32] <jammen33> its night here
[06:33] <jammen33> so good night
[06:34] <noaXess> if i upgrade kde to 4.2 rc1, what happends on 27th january, when 4.2 comes out?
[06:39] <gartral> do i need ./ in front of a script too get it too run?
[06:39] <ubuntu> helllooo
[06:41] <JohnFlux> gartral: if it's in your current directory, yeah
[06:41] <setuid_w00t> gartral: Probably.  Linux does not usually have "."  (the current directory) in the path it searches for programs.
[06:43] <ubuntu> \nick jo
[06:45] <noaXess> has anyboy upgraded to kde 4.2 rc1?
[06:45] <gartral> yea, most other linux distros do allow easy symbolic linkages though
[06:45] <Jox> hmm
[06:45] <cuznt> yes
[06:46] <cuznt> im 4.2 rc1
[06:46] <cuznt> it works
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> gartral: i cant think of one that doesnt use symlinks
[06:47] <noaXess> hey ActionParsnip wasup..
[06:48] <noaXess> nice to see a kubuntu friend ;)
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[06:48] <noaXess> have you upgraded to kde 4.2 rc1?
[06:49] <setuid_w00t> gartral: can you explain that?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: no, 4.1 is fine for me, i run fluxbox so dont have all the dumb kwin issues
[06:49] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:49] <Jox> i need to change my keyboard conf
[06:49] <Jox> can anyone help me_
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard  Jox
[06:50] <noaXess> but.. now, if i upgrade to 4.2 rc1, what about if the real version comes out, need i just disable the spezial repo from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | Jox
[06:50] <Jox> got it thank you
[06:51] <Jox> was looking under keyboard
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: im not sure, makes sense if its on the main repos
[06:51] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ok... that what i think too, thanks
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: just keep your ear to the ground ;)
[06:52] <Jox> much better now-
[06:52] <Jox> .
[06:52] <setuid_w00t> Have any of you tried changing the kwin setting for "Walk through windows" to Meta+Tab from the default (Alt+Tab)?
[06:53] <setuid_w00t> I have found that it behaves differently when I change the keys assinged to that action
[06:53] <PSiL0> TheElevated: In linux: NTFS<->Ext3; In Windows: NTFS only
[06:54] <TheElevated> What about this, PSiL0, http://www.go2linux.org/accessing-linux-drive-ext-with-vista
[06:55] <gartral> whats the mount command for forcing a cd to mount?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> PSiL0: theres www.fs-driver.org
[06:55] <Enanito1> hello
[06:55] <PSiL0> ahh..
[06:55] <PSiL0> well, I hardly go back to xp nowadays anywayz :-p
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> gartral: sudo mount /dev/cdrw /media/cdrom0 --force
[06:56] <Enanito1> i need some assistance installing my webcam... i already tried everything found on google... my webcam is an omega (pixart if lsusb), already installed gspca and spca from the repositories... tried modprobe gspca and nothing....
[06:56] <Enanito1> installed easycam and nothing
[06:56] <gartral> ok, sorry, how do i mount via term, i didnt mean force as actually force
[06:57] <gartral> i meant is tell it too mount, the auto mounter is broken whiel my installer sccript is running
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> gartral: then just remove the --force bit, as long as /dev/cdrw points to your cdrom drive you are ok
[06:57] <gartral> is it just mount /dev/cdrw /media/cdrom0 ?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> gartral: you need sudo for it, users can't mount
[07:00] <Enanito1> i need some assistance installing my webcam... i already tried everything found on google... my webcam is an omega (pixart if lsusb), already installed gspca and spca from the repositories... tried modprobe gspca and nothing....
[07:01] <gartral> thanks
[07:01] <Enanito1> also, tried easycam and nothing
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | Enanito1
[07:08] <Enanito1> ActionParrsnip: already tried that :(
[07:12] <szer0> Hey I am wondering what kubuntu/linux kernel does if bad memory is detected (eg if it puts data in memory then it turns out corrupt) do programs crash or kernel freezes or what?
[07:12] <TheElevated> It makes a deal with Satan and gets it back for you.
[07:13] <Ratchet|> XD
[07:13] <TheElevated> Or what somebody with actual knowledge of the system will tell you.
[07:13] <TheElevated> sudo mount /deals/devil/RAM/recover
[07:14] <Ratchet|> how do i get my webcam to work? its a ogitec and i think i need drivers for it
[07:15]  * Ratchet| pokes
[07:17] <JohnFlux> !webcam
[07:17] <JohnFlux> Ratchet|: ^^
[07:21] <Ratchet|> thanks ^
[07:21] <Ratchet|> ^^
[07:22] <lophyxp> close
[07:25] <darkdelusiona> Horray for projects :)
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> oh only lots
[07:27] <PyleDriver> I have no sound. except for when i start up and shut down. help?
[07:28] <darkdelusiona> wow it appears pidgin hates nickserv
[07:28] <noaXess> on a test maching, with installed kde 4.1.4 i h try to upgrade to 4.2 rc1, but now i get some errors..http://paste.ubuntu.com/108143/
[07:28] <darkdelusiona> PyleDriver: have you checked the alsamixer
[07:29] <PyleDriver> darkdelusiona: no. i don't know what that is
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !sound | PyleDriver
[07:32] <PyleDriver> ActionParsnip: thank you sir
[07:32] <TheElevated> My laptop has "dedicated" buttons on the side that, in Vista, regulate the (overall) volume and play/pause in WMP. Is there anyway to assign those buttons to regulate the volume, or anything else, in Linux?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> PyleDriver: you dont need the sir bit :)
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> TheElevated: do they create events in xev/
[07:34] <TheElevated> I have *no* clue.
[07:34] <TheElevated> I didn't even install Kubuntu yet.
[07:34] <TheElevated> I just feel awkward sitting in the chat while I backup my HDD without asking anything.
[07:35] <noaXess> abody an idea what to do if sudo apt-get -f install output this http://paste.ubuntu.com/108143/
[07:35] <noaXess> i upgrade from kde 4.1.4 t 4.2 rc1..
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> TheElevated: if you run ubuntu and run xev in a konsole, if there are outputs when you press the keys, they have been detected and you can map the keycodes to actions
[07:36] <TheElevated> Okay.
[07:36] <TheElevated> So just treat the keys as any other keys.
[07:43] <PyleDriver> 'twas the alsamixer. thank you
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> PyleDriver: awesome, sweet move dude
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> TheElevated: well, thats all they are
[07:47] <noaXess> any idea or hint? http://paste.ubuntu.com/108143/
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: you could force install those apps with: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[07:51] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: wow.. nice
[07:51] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: thanks.. seems to be ok
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: try not to use it but it can help
[07:52] <noaXess> in this way it helped
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: truly, but it can break stuff if used excessively
[07:53] <noaXess> ActionParsnip:  ok.. but its a testmachine
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: fair donks, just try to keep it to a minimum
[07:54] <gartral> thanks for your help tonight all
[07:55] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ok.. just jus it as last chance
[08:07] <noaXess> use ^
[08:07] <noaXess> ;)
[08:53] <knusperfrosch> what's the easiest way to update xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4.x to 2.6?
[08:53] <knusperfrosch> i'm running 8.10
[09:01] <deborah> hello. i accidentally exited the clear desktop thingy, how do i get it back?
[09:05] <deborah> i am using kubuntu 8.10.  the kde desktop has a clear panel on it, and i accidentally closed it. what is its name, and how do i get it back on the desktop?
[09:05] <shadeslayer> deborah:its the desktop plasmoid
[09:06] <shadeslayer> its in the gadgets list
[09:06] <shadeslayer> dont know the exact kname though ;)
[09:08]  * deborah reads thur the plasma help files.   :)
[09:11] <shadeslayer> netsplit
[09:14] <shadeslayer> deborah:did you find it??
[09:31] <deborah> hello again. does anyone know how to get the plasmoid deskop thingy to open. i accidentally closed it and now it wont appear.
[09:31] <deborah> ?
[09:45] <jussi01> deborah: which thing do you mean?
[09:47] <deborah> jussi01 hey. the clear borderless window on the left side of the desktop. i assume it is to put widgets in. i accidentally closed it before i could find out what it is, and what it can do, what its name is, and how to get it back.
[09:48] <broken> Hello, anyone had the problem where their keyboard doesn't work under KDE 4.1?
[09:48] <jussi01> deborah: ok. right click the desktop, add widgets, then drag "folderview" to the desktop
[09:50] <deborah> jussi01 keen. that is it!  :)    where can i find instructions on what it can do?
[09:51] <jussi01> deborah: its pretty much like dolphin, but embedded into the desktop
[09:56] <deborah> jussi01 how do i get it to show the desktop. right now it will only load the home folders.
[09:56] <amitbk> hi, i have a question, but i'm not sure this is the right place to ask it. i want to install opera from the ubuntu repository, but following the steps on the wiki page - the opera package is not found.
[09:58] <jussi01> deborah: click the wrench icon on the black bar that comes up when you hover over it ;)
[09:59] <amitbk> anyone?
[10:00] <deborah> jussi01 keen. now it makes sense!  thanks juss
[10:00] <jussi01> amitbk: as I understand it, its been removed from the ubuntu repos
[10:01] <amitbk> jussi01: has it? that means it's no longer tested?
[10:03] <jussi01> amitbk: to be honest Im not certain of the status
[10:04] <amitbk> jussi01: how can i check it myself?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:16] <amitbk> i have another question - how can i map a key to open up amarok window? i have a multimedia key on my keyboard that i want to use for that. it has an X event i can use
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[10:19] <amitbk> ubottu: i have "Keyboard shortcuts" under "Keyboard and mouse" but how do i add a new shortcut there?
[10:20] <shadeslayer> lol
[10:20] <amitbk> hmmm, the ubottu just wrote me a message, and then said he's actually a bot. anyone?
[10:20] <shadeslayer> !info
[10:21] <shadeslayer> !help
[10:21] <shadeslayer> :P
[10:21] <amitbk> ok, i'll try that.
[10:23] <shadeslayer> jussi01:what does !botsnack do BTW
[10:24] <jussi01> !botsnack
[10:24] <shadeslayer> thats just for fun right
[10:24] <jussi01> yep
[10:24] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[10:24] <shadeslayer> what made you add that function??
[10:24] <noaXess> ihae a lot of keyboard shortcut entries in my system settings... lot of the same type and name..
[10:25] <noaXess> how can i delete them to create the default shortcuts?
[10:25] <jussi01> shadeslayer: its just a fun factoid. for more bot questions -> #ubuntu-bots
[10:25] <shadeslayer> hehehe ok
[10:29] <shadeslayer> jussi01:can i try out the bots in  #ubuntu-bots
[10:29] <jussi01> yep
[10:30] <shadeslayer> ok thanks
[10:32] <noaXess> jussi01 do you know how to remove all unnessecary keyboard shortcut entries?
[10:33] <jussi01> noaXess: no... why would you want to?
[10:34] <noaXess> cause there are a lot of double entries.. look at this http://files.wmx.ch/upload/jpeg/70_keyboard-shortcuts.jpeg
[10:37] <eleve> salut
[10:37] <eleve_> ça va
[10:37] <eleve> oui et toi?
[10:38] <Tm_T> !es | eleve
[10:38] <eleve_> oui
[10:38] <eleve_> et toi
[10:38] <eleve> ca va
[10:39] <eleve_> alor quoi de neuf
[10:39] <eleve> bein rien de + et toi?
[10:39] <eleve_> je suis en maths et toi t'es ou
[10:39] <eleve> OH MOI AUSSI!
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: mine does that, no idea why.
[10:39] <eleve> JE TE VOIS PAS TES OU?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> !fr | eleve
[10:40] <eleve_> tourne te tete
[10:40] <eleve> ah oui!!
[10:40] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[10:40] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: you have same problem you mean?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: yeah, but now i use fluxbox I just add an entry in ~/.fluxbox/keys :D
[10:44] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: where are the s'cut entries for kde4? is there any config file?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: not sure man, sorry, you could try asking in #kde. I'd imagine its someplace in ~/.kde
[10:45] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ok.. will thry there.. or search for myself ;) thanks
[10:50]  * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[10:54] <matt_> Hi, does anyone know when the release notes for jaunty alpha 3 will be available?
[10:55] <matt_> I see that ubuntu has release notes for 3, but no kubuntu
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> matt_: same deal, just kubuntu uses kde + kwin instead of gnome + metacity
[10:57] <matt_> Hi ActionParsnip, I understand that my friend. but usually when a new alpha comes out there are release notes for both ubuntu and k
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> matt_: they are essentially the same deal
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> matt_: i cant see how theyd be different
[10:58] <Zagaroth> can someone tell me how to rename a file from command line
[10:58] <Zagaroth> please
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Zagaroth: mv <old name> <new name>
[10:58] <Zagaroth> thanks
[10:59] <matt_> ActionParsnip - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha2/Kubuntu - this is the release notes for Kubuntu.  This has notes on KDE stuff
[10:59] <matt_> you see, such as powerdevel and KDE 4.2 beta 2.  These are not ubuntu related
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> true
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> maybe someone has a link in#ubuntu+1
[11:01] <matt_> it seems to me, my friend that they are missing the alpha 3 build - which I am running btw
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> jaunty isnt supported here dude, its all in the +1
[11:02] <amitbk> i'm sorry, i couldn't figure out how to use the bot for this. i want to add a new keyboard shortcut. i am using kde with kubuntu 8.10.
[11:02] <matt_> it is working fine, however 'enable desktop effects' is not working.  usually the release notes for an alpha would say such a thing
[11:02] <amitbk> i want to assign a keyboard key to open up amarok
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[11:02] <amitbk> i can't seem to find out how.
[11:03] <matt_> it is true, it is not supported, I am on my own, and I am happy with that :-)
[11:04] <amitbk> ActionParsnip: yes, i got this message already, however, i can't find the place in which to add the new key mapping.
[11:04] <amitbk> ActionParsnip: i'm not sure this is updated for kde4
[11:04] <matt_> amitbk - do you know which version of KDE you are using?
[11:06] <amitbk> the one intrepid installed. 4.1.2, isn't it?
[11:06] <matt_> amitbk - there was an issue with KDE 4.0 and 4.1 with regards to global shortcuts
[11:06] <amitbk> matt_: can you reference me to read about it?
[11:07] <sorset> hi, can i use desktop in kde4 as a folder? like kde3 or windows
[11:08] <jussi01> sorset: its not implemented until kde 4.2
[11:09] <sorset> jussi01 can u explain?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> fluxbox shorcut keys are way easier to configure
[11:09] <jussi01> sorset: the feature you want is not added in the older release, it comes in kde 4.2...
[11:09] <matt_> amitbk - iirc it was on www.planetkde.org - but the link has now gone
[11:10] <amitbk> matt_: an interesting question you asked. now that i check using the Help > About KDE, every program gives me a different KDE version.
[11:10] <sorset> jussi01: ok, thx
[11:11] <matt_> amitbk, that is strange, what does konqueror say as the KDE version?
[11:11] <amitbk> matt_: 4.1.3
[11:11] <amitbk> matt_: Konversation gives 3.5.10
[11:12] <amitbk> matt_: amarok also gives 3.5.10
[11:12] <jussi01> amitbk: thats because konqui is still the old qt3 version
[11:12] <jussi01> same with amarok
[11:12] <matt_> amitbk, this is because these programs with 3.5.10 are using KDE 3,
[11:12] <jussi01> err... konvi
[11:12] <amitbk> matt_ jussi01: so it means i have both kde3 and kde4 libs installed here?
[11:13] <matt_> konqueror is a program written for KDE 4 (qt4)
[11:14] <jussi01> amitbk: correct
[11:14] <jussi01> some of them anyway
[11:15] <amitbk> jussi01: do you might have any idea how i can define global shortcuts in kde4?
[11:15] <jussi01> amitbk: you asked me before..
[11:17] <matt_> amitbk, I am using kde 4.2 rc1, in the system settings, click on keyboard and mouse
[11:17] <matt_> then global keyboard shortcuts
[11:17] <matt_> do you have this option, my friend?
[11:18] <amitbk> jussi01: have i? i'm sorry, but i guess i'm a little confused about it. i can't understand from the settings gui where do i add new global shortcuts.
[11:22] <matt_> amitbk, how are you doing?
[11:23] <amitbk> matt_: i guess i'm on 4.1.3 . i can't find "global keyboard shortcuts" under keyboard and mouse.
[11:23] <amitbk> matt_: I have "Keyboard Shortcuts"
[11:24] <amitbk> with specific applications in it
[11:24] <matt_> amitbk, as I said I have 4.2 and global shortcuts, however they are limited also in the applications that you can open
[11:25] <matt_> while amarok is on the list, and you can change the volume and the next track
[11:25] <matt_> I do not think that you can 'open' amarok with a global shortcut key
[11:26] <amitbk> matt_: i'm looking at a page i found. it suggests the answer is under the "advanced" tab. looking at it now.
[11:26] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[11:26] <matt_> but say if you were in another program, you could stop, play and pause
[11:27] <knusperfrosch> Jado: hit the auto-adjust button on your tft ;)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Jado: try killing then restarting plasma in 640x480
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> well, knusperfrosch is probably a better first try
[11:31] <sorset> can i mount ntfs with konqueror in kde4, like kde3 ?
[11:31] <matt_> ActionParsnip, you seem very knowledgeable - do you develop KDE?
[11:32] <Jado> knusperfrosch: it's a laptop :(
[11:32] <Jado> ActionParsnip: i'll try
[11:32] <Jado> ActionParsnip: but how can i start plasma in 640x480 ?
[11:34] <knusperfrosch> Jado: plasma --help-kde
[11:34] <knusperfrosch> Jado: so i guess --geometry is what you're looking for
[11:35] <Jado> i have no manual entry for X
[11:35] <BeteNoire> hi
[11:35] <BeteNoire> what is that application in kubuntu's tray to manage network connections?
[11:35] <matt_> BeteNoire: hi -
[11:36] <matt_> knetworkmanager
[11:36] <BeteNoire> what version?
[11:36] <matt_> 0.7 - i think
[11:36] <matt_> depends on your kde
[11:36] <Jado> how can i have a manual entry for X ?
[11:37] <BeteNoire> it was fresh install of newest kubuntu, when i saw that app
[11:37] <BeteNoire> so that was in KDE 4
[11:37] <amitbk> matt_: thanks for you assistance. i will keep looking for this later. leaving now.
[11:37] <fillipbisera> how to install compiz???
[11:37] <matt_> amitbk - hope it works for you my friend
[11:38] <knusperfrosch> Jado: just try 640x480 or what ever
[11:38] <Jado> knusperfrosch: i've tried but my desktop stays on 1280x800
[11:38] <matt_> BeteNoire - I think that for KDE4 it is 0.7
[11:39] <matt_> are you having problems?
[11:39] <BeteNoire> matt_: but 0.7 is version of networkmanager, not knetwork*, right?
[11:39] <fillipbisera> please tell me how to install compiz
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Jado: just start it like any other app
[11:39] <Jado> ActionParsnip: i've tried ; but the resolution stays at 1280x800
[11:39] <fillipbisera> download adress
[11:39] <fillipbisera> pls??
[11:40] <Jado> i've tried plasma --geometry 640x480 and plasma --geometry 800x600 but that does not change the resolution
[11:40] <Jado> (and i kill plasma before)
[11:41] <Jado> any other idea ?
[11:42] <matt_> Betenoire - what I saw on Suse - I thought that it was knetwork manager version 0.7 - but I could be wrong
[11:43] <BeteNoire> matt_: newest is 0.2.2 but i wonder how it can be compiled with kde4
[11:43] <Jado> knusperfrosch: i found it : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343426
[11:45] <matt_> is knetwork a qt3 app?
[11:45] <knusperfrosch> Jado: o you added "640x480_60" to your xorg.conf?
[11:45] <knusperfrosch> matt_: knetworkmanager, yes
[11:45] <Jado> knusperfrosch: actually i tried xrandr --size 640x480_60 but the screen still does not fit
[11:46] <BeteNoire> matt_: i think so, it pulls kdelibs 3.5 on my gentoo box and on suse page svn version comes from KDE/3.5 dir
[11:47] <knusperfrosch> Jado: xrandrr --output <whatever> --mode 640x480 --rate 60
[11:48] <matt_> I seem to recall on Kde planet about knetwork manager, but the blog is not current
[11:48] <matt_> *current
[11:49] <Jado> knusperfrosch: there is an error in the command i can't see it
[11:50] <Jado> knusperfrosch: Rate 60.0 Hz not available for this size
[11:50] <knusperfrosch> dpaste xrandr
[11:50] <Jado> knusperfrosch: ?
[11:52] <matt_> did anyone watch Barack Obama on linux?
[11:53] <Jado> knusperfrosch: actually me screen cannot have the refresh rate 60Hz
[11:59] <knusperfrosch> put the output of xrandr on dpaste.com
[12:00] <Jado> knusperfrosch: the only output is that "Rate 60Hz not available for this size"
[12:00] <Jado> i cannot have this refresh rate on my laptop screen
[12:02] <knusperfrosch> xrandr without options
[12:03] <Jado> ok sorry
[12:04] <Jado> http://dpaste.com/111798/ knusperfrosch
[12:04] <Jado> i'm sorry i have to go ; if you have an idea let me know i'm staying connected on the chan
[12:12] <estan> hm. if i do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade, and see that there's some updates. what's the easiest way to see what has changed in those packages? is there any way to do it from the command line using aptitude, or do i go to some web site?
[12:15]  * Heinz|Hawi is away: Zur Zeit abwesend
[12:23] <knusperfrosch> Jado: xrandr --output default --mode 640x480 --rate 61
[12:37] <estan> ah i found the "aptitude changelog" command now. nevermind
[12:38] <estan> or hm. seems there's no way to download the changelog using that command for only the packages that are to be upgraded..
[12:39] <Dr_willis> ive noticed a lot of the changelogs are not listed in the updates lately. Not sure what the deal is
[12:39] <Dr_willis> they all say go to this or that.. web site.. :)
[12:40] <estan> hm. okay. it would be nice if you could pass a flag to "aptitude changelog" to get the changelogs for the packages that needs upgrading.
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> estan: doesnt apt have a log soeplace?
[12:46] <estan> ActionParsnip: hm. probably.. but i mean what i'd like is to see the changelog before deciding to do the upgrade.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> estan: if you run: sudo apt-get upgrade you can review what apps are being upgraded before saying 'yes upgrade my system'
[12:47] <estan> ActionParsnip: of course, but you don't get the changelog.
[12:47] <estan> i'll have to do "aptitude changelog <package>" for each of them manually.
[12:47]  * Heinz is back.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> estan: you'd have to hit the developers sie to see whats new
[12:48] <estan> it would be nice with either an option for "safe-upgrade" command to output changelog, or an option for "aptitude changelog" to give the changelog of out-of-date packages.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> estan: i guess, submit it as a functionality request
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> !bug | estan
[12:48] <estan> ActionParsnip: yea. but you can get the Debian changelog.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> estan: i'd mention that too
[12:49] <estan> ActionParsnip: yea, but it should be filed at bugs.debian.org i think, that's where aptitude has its bugs.
[12:50] <estan> maybe i'll take a look at it myself.. should be pretty simple since all the functionality is already there, it's just a new option that combines it the right way.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> estan: its where I submit functionality requests. You'll get an email later saying "is this a bug or a functionality wish"
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> estan: yeah, you could make it yourself
[12:51] <estan> well i just saw that aptitude wants it's bugs filed at bugs.debian.org (http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/bugs/).
[12:51]  * estan off. bbl.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> peace
[12:53] <wesley_> uys did you know that, gwenview does turn your foto´s good? But not saves it
[12:53]  * khalidmian needs recommendations of must get list for kubuntu o/s
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: check out imagemagick ;)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: there isnt one, every single users use is different
[12:55] <wesley_> actionparsnip, i mean gwenview fools us
[12:55]  * khalidmian is also looking for suggestions on what to ad to repositories
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: i didnt think it could save back
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: again, it depends what your system is for. If you use a lot of image manipulation and web browsing theres no point advising wine config tools and dvd ripping software
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: your request is moot, and please stop with the /me commands
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: if you can be specific on what you like or need we can advise, right now we could advise you ANYTHING
[13:01] <zer0o> hi guys is there a windows support channel?
[13:02] <tobor> zer0o: seriusly?
[13:02] <tobor> *ously
[13:02] <zer0o> unfortunately yes
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ##windows
[13:02] <tobor> zer0o: did you effing LOOK?
[13:02] <zer0o> im getting crazy with a friend's of mine pc
[13:02] <zer0o> audio drivers
[13:02] <zer0o> they dont want to get installed
[13:02] <tobor> zer0o: what would you guess such a channel might be called?
[13:03] <wesley_> lol pulseaudio and so gives trouble in jaunty
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: use device manager if you are SURE they are correct and tell it to use the drivers by force
[13:03] <tobor> unbelievable
[13:03] <tobor> ##windows
[13:03] <zer0o> ive installed them 3 times (from the mobo's cd, downloaded them from the mobo's website) but nothing!
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: point the system to the .inf file
[13:03] <Dr_willis> with windows you often have to try weird/random/backwards things  and hope stuff works..
[13:04] <Dr_willis> i recall a few problem hardware drivers i had to do the REVERSE of what the docs said. :)
[13:04] <Dr_willis> 'dont do  this....' so i had to do that. :P
[13:04] <tobor> ActionParsnip: I beg thee fair and gentle goodknight, do not encourage therabbel to promulgate in this fair channel, for tis 'bundant enow for all such as thee!
[13:04] <wesley_> I think its kde4 thats having a fight with pulseaudio
[13:04] <zer0o> ActionParnsip: the thing is i install the drivers, the setup goes ok, reboot and it says "no audio peripheral device"
[13:04] <Dr_willis> kde dosent use pulse audio as far as i know.. so that may be right wesley_
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> tobor: peace :D
[13:05] <zer0o> seriously man :D
[13:06] <wesley_> Dr_willis, I though of disabeling them, maby
[13:06] <wesley_> I putted pulse above and then it switched to alc
[13:06] <Dr_willis> I got a kde and gnome system here.. ive not had any issues with kde and pulse audio,. i was thiniing if you booted to the kde desktop.. you dident ahve pulseaudio running
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: yeah man, if you are sure its the right one say "look thats the driver, just install it. i dont are what you think"
[13:07] <wesley_> but when i putted alc abovce, it switched to pluse
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: then get your pimp hand out
[13:07] <zer0o> LOL
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> zer0o: shouting shabba is optional
[13:07] <Dr_willis> 'gort clacko barato nickto!'
[13:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:08] <Dr_willis> or somthing like that..
[13:08] <wesley_> but i am running jaunty on this pc
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | wesley_
[13:09] <wesley_> So I know the risks off it, but it runs fine, better then Windows
[13:09] <Dr_willis> all bets are off then - are riding the rabbit rollercoaster!
[13:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:09]  * ActionParsnip is waiting for release
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> id rather kill zombie dogs with my (t)rusty pickaxe in pernumbra overture than mess with possibly flaky software
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> runs native too :)
[13:14] <alarm> hello, is it worth to instal kubuntu 64bit, or should i stay in the standard edition ? 1) will i see any performance difference 2) any application issues ?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> alarm: 64bit is also standard
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> alarm: whats the system going to be used for?
[13:16] <alarm> personal use
[13:16] <alarm> laptop
[13:17] <alxju> Hello! I use DVB with Kaffeine. But the EPG display doesn't work (but dvbepg.data seems updated). Ana idea?
[13:17] <alxju> *any
[13:17] <alarm> i have used before on my desktop 64bit before, but i cant say that i did see some differences. but i am aware of the applications availability in 64bits , like flash,java etc
[13:18] <velgiak> ciao
[13:18] <velgiak> ciao a tutti
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> alarm: still need more infor, is it just web browsing and chat or will you be doing stuff like encoding video / audio?
[13:19] <velgiak> hi
[13:19] <velgiak> i need help
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> alarm: flash now has a 64bit plugin
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !ask | velgiak
[13:19] <velgiak> i've kubuntu 8.10
[13:19] <velgiak> i'm a beginner
[13:20] <Dr_willis> And the problem is?
[13:20] <velgiak> so i've to install globus toolkit
[13:20] <alarm> use, for compiling, development generaly
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: everyone is at one point
[13:20] <Dr_willis> !find globus
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> alarm: then 64bit will help there, if you have > 2Gb RAM I suggest 64 bit too (personal opinion)
[13:21] <velgiak> when i try to ./configure as globus user
[13:21]  * Dr_willis has no idea what globus is. :()
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> !info globus-toolkit
[13:21] <alarm> 4gb ram
[13:21] <velgiak> i've an error
[13:21]  * Dr_willis guesses  at the  anwer.. :)  'install build-essential' package yet?
[13:21] <raphink> velgiak: do you really need to compile it?
[13:21] <velgiak> permission denied
[13:22] <velgiak> cannot create file.sh
[13:22] <raphink> velgiak: ActionParsnip has given you some info, and I've asked you a question
[13:22] <Dr_willis> whats the exact error? You may want to use one of the pastebin sites to paste the whole error message.    and youmay juat have the files miss-owned dependign on how you unpacked the source
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: have you ran: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:22] <velgiak> ok, i try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:23] <Dr_willis> !compile
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: that will install a compiling environment for you
[13:23] <frloja> oi
[13:25] <frloja> zorix?
[13:26] <squid0> hi. when I try launch kbluetooth4, it crashes
[13:26] <velgiak> i try sudo apt-get install build-essential, but the error is the same: ./configure: 97: cannot create conf28151.sh: Permission denied
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: where is the source folder located?
[13:27] <velgiak> yes
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: if you run pwd what is the output
[13:27] <velgiak> one moment
[13:27] <squid0> kbluetooth4: symbol lookup error: kbluetooth4: undefined symbol: xxxxSolid7Control16BluetoothManager8securityxxxxQString
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> squid0: i seem to remember it bing broken. I think you have to se the gnome app
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> *being
[13:28] <squid0> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[13:28] <velgiak> the output of pwd is: /home/velgiak/gt4.2.1-installer
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> i may be wrong, i'd check it out first
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: ok try sudo chown -R velgiak /home/velgiak/gt4.2.1-installer
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: you sure its no an installer script and not source
[13:30] <velgiak> i've to launch .configure as globus and not as velgiak
[13:30] <velgiak> i've switched to globus user
[13:32] <Dr_willis> you made a globus user?
[13:32] <velgiak> yes
[13:33] <velgiak> and i made the directory /usr/local/globus-4.2.0
[13:33] <velgiak> with the right r/w for globus
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: you dont need to, if its part of the install, it wll be made for you
[13:33] <Dr_willis> but  you ADDED a 'globus' user?  theres a /home/globus ?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> velgiak: sudo make install will give you the access and the installer will install where it needs to go
[13:34] <racquad> hi guys, where in KDE I can write a shell script so the user, when logons, execute that script?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> ./configure, make, sudo make install    <----------- the normal install from source  3 step process. :)
[13:34] <Dr_willis> !autostart | racquad
[13:35] <Dr_willis> racquad,   make script. make it excutable.. link it to some name in  ~/.kde/Autostart
[13:35] <velgiak> yes, there's /home/globus
[13:35] <racquad> Dr_willis is it possible to write this script on xinit or something?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> racquad,  that would be for ALL users...
[13:35] <racquad> Dr_willis to be system wide?
[13:35] <racquad> yes, that's what I want
[13:35] <Dr_willis> and you are on your own there.. what does this script need to do?
[13:36] <racquad> this is insane, but: xhost +
[13:36] <Dr_willis> racquad,   xhost + localhost is better :)
[13:36] <Dr_willis> safer at least heh.. dependin ion what you are doing
[13:37] <Dr_willis> I havent had to use xhost+ since ive learnd ssh -X :)
[13:37] <racquad> Dr_willis the thing is: i'm configuring a network with LTSP and I want to get access, via VNC, to all the terminals. So, I will not access from localhost, but from another host
[13:38] <Dr_willis> Im not clear on why using vnc. you need xhost + , but i guess you can dissedt/tweak the X startup scripts all ya want :)
[13:40] <Dr_willis> ive not messed with LTSP - I just vnc back and forth to the box's on my lan. or ssh -X, or use X and xdmcp.
[13:40] <Dr_willis> its bed time for me.. good luck. Night all
[13:40] <racquad> Dr_willis ssh -X may work on somecases, but on others, I'll need to see the screen of the user
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> racquad: then vnc is cool so you can see the user screen, if its over wan, do it over ssh tunnel so its secure (vnc traffic is unencrypted)
[13:42] <Dragnslcr> There are VNC servers and clients that can do SSL
[13:42] <racquad> ActionParsnip I'll use over SSH. But I still need to open xhost to be able to connect
[13:43] <khalidmian> how do i connect konversation via proxy server
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> racquad: if you have a headless, you can connect to a virtual x session using vnc, then vnc from there (maybe)
[13:46] <raphink> khalidmian: use quassel, it rocks :)
[13:46] <raphink> (and it's Qt4)
[13:47] <raphink> khalidmian: and it supports using proxies
[13:48] <khalidmian> raphink: what is quassel and how does it help me with the proxy server question i had
[13:48] <raphink> khalidmian: quassel is a new IRC client for KDE4, and the proxy settings are very easy to set in it
[13:48] <raphink> khalidmian: that's how it helps you, especially since Konversation is not yet ported to KDE4 ;)
[13:49] <raphink> khalidmian: http://quassel-irc.org/
[13:49] <khalidmian> can i get it via sudo command?
[13:50] <raphink> sure
[13:50] <khalidmian> i tired sudo apt-get quassel didnt work
[13:50] <raphink> you have to choose whether you want the simple quassel (equivalent to konversation), or the client/server version, which is very nice if you use IRC from different locations
[13:51] <raphink> khalidmian: you miss "install" in your command line
[13:51] <raphink> khalidmian: sudo apt-get install quassel
[13:53] <khalidmian> raphink: just installed it how do i config core account lol
[13:53] <velgiak> this is the link for globus installation: http://www-unix.globus.org/toolkit/docs/4.0/admin/docbook/ch04.html
[13:53] <velgiak> when i arrive to point 3
[13:54] <raphink> khalidmian: if you installed the "quassel" account, you don't need to configure a core, just connect to freenode and join #kubuntu
[13:54] <velgiak> i've the error:
[13:54] <velgiak> ./configure: 97: cannot create conf29280.sh: Permission denied
[13:54] <velgiak> ./configure: 97: cannot create conf29280.sh: Permission denied
[13:54] <velgiak> chmod: cannot access `conf29280.sh': No such file or directory
[13:54] <velgiak> ./configure: line 88: conf29280.sh: Permission denied
[13:54] <raphink> khalidmian: if you want to use a proxy, you can do so in the configuration of the network
[13:54] <velgiak> ./configure: line 89: conf29280.sh: Permission denied
[13:54] <velgiak> chmod: cannot access `conf29280.sh': No such file or directory
[13:54] <velgiak> ./configure: line 201: conf29280.file: Permission denied
[13:54] <velgiak> ./configure: line 907: config.log: Permission denied
[13:54] <raphink> velgiak: please use a pastebin for this kind of things
[13:54] <raphink> khalidmian: go to File -> Networks -> Configure Networks
[13:55] <raphink> khalidmian: and there you can mofidy the servers, and set the proxy you want to use in the "advanced" tab
[13:55] <Tim___> what is the replacement of "kdesu ...." in intrepid? My users are not in the "adm" group so I think kdesudo wont help?
[13:56] <raphink> Tim___: what you do mean it won't hel?
[13:56] <raphink> Tim___: what do you need to do ? get admin rights or change users ?
[13:56] <Tim___> raphink: run a command as root
[13:56] <raphink> then kdesudo should be the way
[13:57] <Tim___> raphink: but it asks for the users password?!
[13:57] <raphink> if the user has sudo rights to become admin
[13:57] <raphink> Tim___: yes
[13:57] <raphink> Tim___: if your user doesn't have admin rights, you should either add it to the admin group, or add a rule in sudoers
[13:58] <khalidmian> im toonewbie for this
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:58] <raphink> khalidmian: did you start quassel?
[13:58] <khalidmian> raphink: i dont know how to
[13:59] <raphink> khalidmian: it should appear in your K menu in the bar
[13:59] <Tim___> raphink: OK. But in hardy and earlier there was "kdesu" which asked for the root Passwort. It didnt rely on sudo but on su. I think the removed it for whatever reason :(
[13:59] <raphink> khalidmian: or else you can do Ctrl+F2 and type quassel
[13:59] <khalidmian> raphink: its asking me to connect to quassel core
[14:00] <raphink> khalidmian: you installed the quassel package or quassel-client?
[14:00] <khalidmian> i have no clue i just did sudo apt-get install quassel
[14:00] <raphink> Tim___: that's good actually, it's much safer for your security to have a group that can access root priviledges without knowing the root password
[14:01] <raphink> khalidmian: my bad then, do "sudo apt-get install quassel-client quassel-core"
[14:01] <raphink> and then start quassel
[14:01] <raphink> and it should give you a nice interface to configure your core
[14:01] <raphink> it's easy I promise :)
[14:02] <khalidmian> raphink: i did theres a window to connect to quassel core
[14:02] <raphink> khalidmian: ok, then just select the local core (which should already be listed) and connect to it
[14:02] <raphink> Tim___: you know how to do that?
[14:03] <khalidmian> raphink: connectio to localhost failed connection refused
[14:03] <Tim___> raphink: I am not sure, are you referring to sudo?
[14:03] <raphink> khalidmian: did you do the "sudo apt-get install quassel-core quassel-client" and restart quassel?
[14:03] <raphink> Tim___: yes, either adding people to the admin group, or adding rules in sudoers
[14:04] <khalidmian> raphink: i just typed apt-get install quassel thats all
[14:04] <raphink> khalidmian: and it was not the right command. it's my mistake sorry. Please type "sudo apt-get install quassel-client quassel-core"
[14:04] <raphink> so you have a local core to connect to
[14:04] <Tim___> raphink: Thanks
[14:05] <raphink> Tim___: thanks for what?
[14:05] <Tim___> raphink: he, for your help of course :)
[14:07] <khalidmian> raphink: quassel-core failed to install/upgrade
[14:07] <khalidmian> raphink: forget it
[14:08] <khalidmian> raphink: connected to localhost now what launch wizard?
[14:10] <khalidmian> raphink: connected to localhost now what launch wizard?
[14:14] <nahy> hey guys. i'm using ubuntu and i want join an ubuntu chan. how can i do this?
[14:14] <raphink> khalidmian: you can go to File -> Networks and connect to Freenode
[14:15] <raphink> nahy: you want to join #ubuntu ?
[14:15] <nahy> yes that is it
[14:15] <khalidmian> raphink: thats all greek to me
[14:16] <raphink> khalidmian: I'm telling you about menus, on top of the window
[14:16] <nahy> i try to connect but i don't know the instructions
[14:16] <raphink> khalidmian: Click on "File", then "Networks", then "Freenode"
[14:16] <raphink> nahy: /join #ubuntu
[14:16] <nahy> yes but i cant see network
[14:16] <raphink> khalidmian: and then type "/join #kubuntu" and you should end up here
[14:16] <raphink> nahy: if you're here, you're already on the network
[14:17] <khalidmian> raphink: i dont have any networks
[14:17] <khalidmian> its all blank
[14:17] <raphink> ah, that's weird
[14:17] <nahy> i wanna ask something else
[14:17] <raphink> khalidmian: then you can go to Configure Networks
[14:17] <raphink> and add Freenode
[14:17] <raphink> although it's weird if it's not already there
[14:17] <raphink> nahy: what else?
[14:18] <nahy> when you erite something to me how you do that so my name appears in the beginning
[14:18] <nahy> ?
[14:18] <khalidmian> raphink: says i need to define server
[14:18] <raphink> nahy: I type your name ?
[14:18] <nahy> when you write?
[14:18] <raphink> (and I use tab for completion)
[14:18] <nahy> aha
[14:19] <Tim___> has anybody tried the OpenOffice3 packages from launchpad, are they good?
[14:19] <raphink> khalidmian: use chat.freenode.net:8001 as the server
[14:19] <raphink> Tim___: openoffice 3 is great :)
[14:19] <nahy> if you remember my problem was freeing up some space in my root and couldn't
[14:20] <raphink> khalidmian: as in, chat.freenode.net, on port 8001
[14:20] <khalidmian> raphink:ok now what
[14:20] <raphink> khalidmian: are you connected to Freenode now?
[14:20] <khalidmian> raphink: apparently yes
[14:21] <raphink> if you are it should say "Freenode" in the right top corner, under "buffer"
[14:21] <Tim___> raphink: Does the KDE Filepicker work?
[14:21] <raphink> if you are, then click on the "Freenode" word, and type "/join #kubuntu" in the field at the bottom of the window
[14:21] <raphink> Tim___: haven't tried
[14:21] <khalidmian> raphink: yes it does
[14:23] <raphink> khalidmian: or you can right click on "Freenode" and choose join channel
[14:23] <raphink> and put "#kubuntu" as the channel name
[14:26] <khalidmian> raphink: its going through ident check
[14:26] <khalidmian> raphink: no identid
[14:27] <raphink> hmpf
[14:28] <raphink> just checking if konversation does proxy connection, but I can't see that it does
[14:28] <raphink> so I still think quassel can solve your problem
[14:28] <raphink> khalidmian: did it take you through the core configuration steps?
[14:28] <khalidmian> raphink: yes
[14:29] <raphink> did you configure the freenode network with "chat.freenode.net" as server and 8001 as port?
[14:30] <kpenrose> After adding medibuntu to my software repositories, searching for anything from that site (e.g. acroread) in adept doesn't return anything, command line apt-get does work however.  Why doesn't adept show the medibuntu pkgs?
[14:30] <khalidmian> chat.freenode.ney port 800
[14:30] <khalidmian> 8001 i mean
[14:30] <raphink> 8001
[14:30] <khalidmian> yes
[14:30] <raphink> ok
[14:31] <raphink> then you connected to it?
[14:31] <khalidmian> im trying to
[14:31] <khalidmian> its refusing connection
[14:31] <khalidmian> identd issue
[14:31] <raphink> hmmm
[14:31] <raphink> taht's weird
[14:31] <raphink> you're on the same machine as the one you're using to be here?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> kpenrose: did you sudo apt-get update
[14:32] <khalidmian> yes same machine
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> kpenrose: if apt can see it you got the gold
[14:32] <raphink> khalidmian: what are you using to be here right now?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> kpenrose: i dont use adept myself, apt-get does everything a man can need
[14:32] <khalidmian> konversation
[14:32] <raphink> ok
[14:32] <kpenrose> ActionParsnip:  Doesn't adept do that automatically??
[14:33] <raphink> kpenrose: you need to refresh in adept
[14:33] <raphink> kpenrose: like ActionParsnip said, apt-get does everything you need, and much faster than adept
[14:33] <kpenrose> ActionParsnip - I think searching is easier in adept
[14:33] <khalidmian> its irc.ubuntu.com
[14:33] <raphink> apt-cache is a great tool, and grep is good, too
[14:33] <raphink> khalidmian: you can try with irc.ubuntu.com, too
[14:33] <raphink> although it should be quite the same result
[14:34] <raphink> khalidmian: unless maybe your network doesn't allow you to connect to port 8001
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> kpenrose: apt-cache search <something>
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> kpenrose: you can even grep the output to get intelligent results
[14:34] <raphink> khalidmian: you can add chat.freenode.net on port 7000
[14:35] <raphink> and the ones you have in konversation
[14:35] <raphink> khalidmian: the more servers you have, the more likely to get connected if one fails
[14:35] <kpenrose> ActionParsnip:  I guess I'm getting lazy in my old age.  I will reform my ways.  Thanx for the help.
[14:35] <raphink> khalidmian: you can also use irc.freenode.org on port 6667
[14:35] <BluesKaj> hmm, I noticed your converstaion about quassel ,raphink, khalidmian ...tried out quassel , not my cup of tea , the GUI is too restictive doesn't show much info and it wouldn't connect
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> kpenrose: it may just need time to settle in
[14:36] <raphink> BlueEagle: ah, it works great for me, and khalidmian wants to use a proxy to connect, which konversation doesn't allow
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> kpenrose: try adept tomorrow
[14:36] <raphink> BlueEagle: + quassel allows me to keep my session open without using irssi+screen, which is lovely
[14:36] <khalidmian> BluesKaj: all i wanted to know is how i can connec  via proxy server
[14:37] <raphink> khalidmian: and quassel can do that, while konversation can't (that I know of)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> IC , khalidmian, raphink
[14:38] <kpenrose> Another question - anyone using knetworkmanager for ppp sessions (tethered modem)?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> raphink, how did you get the server page to expand so one can see what is happening? ...looked for options in configure/settings but to no avail :(
[14:39] <raphink> BlueEagle: I clicked on the limit and dragged it down
[14:39] <raphink> well edge
[14:40] <khaldmian> i have two quassel
[14:40] <khaldmian> one is client only
[14:40] <BluesKaj> raphink , I tried that , there was way to do it
[14:40] <BluesKaj> no
[14:40] <raphink> ah, weird
[14:41] <raphink> it works for me BlueEagle :s
[14:41] <khaldmian> ?
[14:42] <raphink> blackflag: http://r.pinson.free.fr/snapshots/quassel3.png
[14:42] <raphink> khaldmian: yes, that's normal
[14:42] <raphink> khaldmian: you have a local core, which is what connects to IRC, and a client, which is the graphical part that connects to the core
[14:43] <raphink> taht's how quassel is designed
[14:43] <raphink> this is why it's great :)
[14:43] <khaldmian> raphink: im not using client at moment
[14:43] <raphink> in my case, the core runs on my machine at home, and I'm on the client at work :)
[14:43] <raphink> khaldmian: if you're in a graphical interface, you're using the client
[14:43] <raphink> the core has no graphical interface, it's only a command line service
[14:44] <BluesKaj> raphink, BTW I'm BluesKaj, not BlueEagle
[14:44] <raphink> haha sorry BluesKaj
[14:44] <raphink> and sorry BlueEagle for spamming ;)
[14:45] <khaldmian> raphink: ok using client quassel
[14:45] <raphink> khaldmian: ok
[14:46] <khaldmian> raphink: can u know tell me how to use proxy server
[14:46] <raphink> khaldmian: edit the server in File -> Networks -> Configure Networks
[14:46] <raphink> khaldmian: and where you add the server (e.g. chat.freenode.net), you have an "advanced" tab
[14:46] <raphink> in this tab, you can set the proxy
[14:47] <BluesKaj> raphink, np:)
[14:48] <raphink> BlueEagle: you should give it another try though, quassel is really worth it ;)
[14:48] <raphink> imho
[14:48] <khaldmian> raphink: advanced tab only shows encoding
[14:49] <raphink> khaldmian: when you edit the network, click on a server (e.g. chat.freenode.net:8001), and click on "modify..."
[14:49] <raphink> there, you have an "advanced" tab, which lets you set the proxy
[14:49] <raphink> at least in my version of quassel
[14:49] <raphink> which might be a bit more recent than yours probably
[14:50] <khaldmian> raphink: there is no modify only add edit or delete
[14:50] <raphink> wel lthen edit
[14:50] <raphink> (sorry, I have it in French, so I'm trying to guess what it says in English )
[14:51] <khaldmian> raphink: all it asks me is for server and port
[14:51] <raphink> khaldmian: http://r.pinson.free.fr/snapshots/quassel_proxy.png
[14:51] <raphink> do you have something like this?
[14:52] <raphink> with two tabs: "Server info" and "Advanced"
[14:52] <khaldmian> raphink: yes
[14:52] <raphink> then click on the "Advanced" tab
[14:53] <raphink> and there I see : http://r.pinson.free.fr/snapshots/quassel_proxy1.png
[14:53] <raphink> whcih lets me set the proxy
[14:54] <cjae> hi how do I enable the nvidia driver in 8.04, actually I used thr hardware driver gui to install the driver, but cannot access the nvidia-settings
[14:54] <khaldmian> raphink: maynot be available in client only
[14:54] <khaldmian> one sec
[14:54] <cjae> sudo nvidia-settings does not work
[14:57] <raphink> khaldmian: did you find?
[14:57] <khaldmian> raphink: no
[14:57] <raphink> no "advanced" tab?
[14:58] <khaldmian> raphink: its there but just shows encoding i wanna use
[14:59] <raphink> ah ok
[14:59] <raphink> it probably changed between versions
[14:59] <raphink> :s
[14:59] <raphink> I can tell you how to install a newer version if you want
[14:59] <khaldmian> sure
[14:59] <BluesKaj> cjae, try looking in the kmenu/applications/system/Hardware Drivers
[15:00] <cjae> I thought it had the nvidia-settings
[15:00] <khaldmian> am i suppose to use clint or what?
[15:01] <cjae> it just shows a gui that says the driver is in use
[15:02] <BluesKaj> raphink, I'm looking in synaptic for quassel , do I install the client and the core or... ?
[15:02] <raphink> BluesKaj: it depends on what you want
[15:02] <BluesKaj> want?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> what do they mean by core anyway ?
[15:03] <raphink> BluesKaj: if you only want a standalone system, install "quassel", if you want to use the distributed functionality, you can install quassel-core (server) and/or quassel-client (the GUI)
[15:03] <raphink> in my case, I have quassel-core installed at home, and quassel-client instaled at work
[15:03] <raphink> so I connect to my core at home from work
[15:03] <raphink> that's what's interesting with quassel
[15:04] <raphink> I have another quassel-client at home, connect to the its local core
[15:04] <BluesKaj> so what benefit is that, like a server over irc ?
[15:04] <raphink> so both clients are connected to the same core
[15:04] <raphink> this way I'm connected only once to freenode, and I see the same conversation/history in both places
[15:04] <raphink> when I leave work, if someone talks to me on IRC
[15:04] <raphink> I will see it when I get home
[15:04] <raphink> and vice versa
[15:05] <BluesKaj> well, I'm retired so I connect from one , altho i suppose if i decide to use the laptop in a diff part of the house that might be an option
[15:07] <raphink> BluesKaj: apart from that special functionality, it also uses KDE4 libraries
[15:07] <raphink> while konversation uses KDE3
[15:07] <raphink> so that's also good for me, since konversation was the last bit of KDE3 still running in my session
[15:07] <BluesKaj> yeah, but I still like konversation a lot
[15:08] <raphink> I liked konversation a lot too :)
[15:08] <raphink> until yesterday :)
[15:10] <raphink> BluesKaj: the newer version of quassel also supports proxies, which is good for khaldmian
[15:11] <raphink> unfortunately, I didn't know the earlier version didn't
[15:11] <raphink> khaldmian: do you want me to tell you how to install a newer verions?
[15:11] <raphink> version
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hmm, interesting client , I guess :)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> raphink, I prefer having the chat  channel indicaors as tabs on the bottom ...what's the fix for that ?
[15:28] <lakis1982> hello .. i have installed kubuntu 8.10 intrepid in my pc... but there is no power settings for the pc....  how can i put the pc go into sleep mode when system is inactive for some minutes ?????
[15:28] <tobor> lakis - look under system settings menu
[15:29] <lakis1982> i have looked there
[15:31]  * fidji ne joue plus au Go
[15:33] <tobor> lakis1982: look unders "services" there
[15:33] <tobor>  BBL
[15:35] <raphink> BluesKaj: I haven't searched, because I prefer them on the side
[15:36] <lakis1982> service manager?
[15:36] <lakis1982> tobor?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> lakis1982, system settings/advanced/service/
[15:37] <BluesKaj> err service manager
[15:38] <lakis1982> i am in service manager but i cat see anything about power setting
[15:39] <lakis1982> i cant see
[15:41] <robin0800> lakis1982: its in advanced but i think only in 4.2rc
[15:42] <robin0800> lakis1982: before that i think there was a task bar icon
[15:42] <lakis1982> there is no taskbar
[15:42] <lakis1982> i have kde 4.1.4
[15:43] <robin0800> lakis1982: try 4.2
[15:45] <cuznt> 4.2 rc1 work great
[15:45] <lakis1982> how?
[15:46] <lakis1982> how can i install it ?
[15:46] <robin0800> lakis1982: clean install or update it
[15:47] <lakis1982> but how can i update it ... i dont know
[15:48] <robin0800> lakis1982: update instructions here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1
[15:50] <khalidmian> raphink: got dc
[15:50] <raphink> khaldmian: ah ok
[15:50] <raphink> khaldmian: I was asking you
[15:50] <raphink> khaldmian: do you want me to tell you how to install a newer verions?
[15:51] <khalidmian> raphink: wait i wanna dcc send u something
[15:51] <raphink> sure
[15:51] <kpenrose> icons in my panel (like clock, clipboard) flash - empty blue box one second, regular icon the next. any ideas?
[15:52] <khalidmian> raphink: how do i dcc
[15:53] <raphink> khaldmian: hmmm in quassel no idea actually
[15:53] <raphink> I don't really use DCC
[15:53] <raphink> most of the time, it's blocked
[15:53] <khalidmian> raphink: i want to share pic of quassel config
[15:54] <raphink> send it by email
[15:59] <ame> !samba
[16:00] <Guest83148> i need a little explanation about sharing folder betwen kubuntu
[16:01] <beto> hi all
[16:01] <beto> i just want to know if i can use skype on kubuntu
[16:02] <genii> beto: Yes
[16:02] <beto> tnks :) but i'm trying and no microphone
[16:02] <beto> i'm using the skype tesst
[16:03] <genii> beto: Sonds more like a soundcard/driver issue than a skype issue
[16:03] <beto> ok should I install something?
[16:04] <beto> (i'm not an expert :(  using kubuntu  )
[16:04] <genii> beto: Try instead first looking in the mixer (kmix, which is that speaker icon on your bar) to see that the input is set for the microphone, also there may be in there a setting for the volume of the input
[16:05] <beto> ok
[16:06] <beto> i have front PCM and Internal mic boost
[16:06] <beto> they are all at the highest level
[16:08] <beto> but the speaker icon is '' HDA Intel'' and not kmix
[16:08] <genii> beto: In Konsole program, what says result of command: lspci | grep Audio
[16:09] <genii> The HDA Intel has some problems with microphone input for some reason (this is the same card I have)
[16:10] <beto> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[16:16] <beto> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[16:16] <beto> is what i have in comand
[16:22] <genii> back
[16:38] <khalidmian> raphink: what now
[16:39] <ame__> hello .... in a lan i have 2 PC with kubuntu and 2 PC with XP ..... with samba i can share XP folder also for kubuntu .... but how can I share kubuntu folder both for XP and for Kubuntu?
[16:39] <reese> hi! is it normale not to have the ~/.kde4 directory, but only the ~/.kde one?
[16:41] <ame__> !share
[16:41] <ame__> !folder
[16:42] <ame__> !azz
[16:42] <ame__> !samba
[16:50] <genii> reese: Yes, with 8.10 onwards it is just .kde    again
[16:51] <genii> ame__: You should be able to browse from the windows machines to any samba share you have on the kubuntu boxes
[16:56] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part ; i've tried xrandr --size 640x480 --rate 60 but my laptop screen does not support this refresh rate.
[16:59] <chewwe> hola
[16:59] <chewwe> me pasa algo harto curioso con el bluetooth
[17:00] <chewwe> puedo mandar de pc a movil, de pc a pc pero no de movil a pc (a traves de bluetooth)
[17:00] <chewwe> pero si puedo mandar de otro pc a este pc, y eso e slo curioso
[17:06] <freeRag> hello
[17:06] <raphink> helllo freeRag
[17:07] <sven_> hello, does anyone knows how to add shortcuts on the plasmadesktop in kubuntu 8.10
[17:07] <freeRag> kde is better then be7a 10 folds
[17:08] <raphink> sven_: you can use a folder view and put a shortcut there
[17:10] <freeRag> im connected thru Sweden :D
[17:11] <freeRag> be ware of black flags
[17:11] <sven_> raphink: what do you mean by folder view?
[17:11] <raphink> sven_: there's a plasmoid that lets you see the contents of a folder
[17:11] <raphink> for example, your ~/Desktop
[17:11] <raphink> once you use this plasmoid, you can put shortcuts in this folder
[17:12] <raphink> so they will appear on your desktop
[17:12] <sven_> quick access,
[17:12] <raphink> you can also use the quick launcher plasmoid for that
[17:12] <sven_> ?
[17:12] <raphink> no, folder view
[17:12] <raphink> but quick access can be used too
[17:19] <BluesKaj> raphink , i think I'll wait til we can have diff coloured nicks in the chat text page on quassel before i use it agian ... I find it easier for these old eyes to ID nicks by name and colour , and confusing when the nicks are all the same colour
[17:22] <raphink> BluesKaj:  hehe ok
[17:22] <raphink> BluesKaj: that's an interesting point. We don't all want the same features... that's why there's different clients :)
[17:22] <tomek> h
[17:22] <tomek> n
[17:22] <tomek> k
[17:22] <tomek> huje
[17:23] <BluesKaj> !enter | tomek
[17:23] <Neremor> hello!
[17:24] <Neremor> I can't kill a process, not even if i'm logged in as root
[17:24] <Neremor> the process is pulseaudio
[17:25] <Neremor> i tryed "kill $PID" several times right now but it is still running... any ideas what i could do to really kill a prozess?
[17:25] <noir_lord> kill -s kill $PID
[17:26] <aaroncampbell> tomek: What the heck was with the PM?
[17:26] <Neremor> -s ??
[17:27] <noir_lord> kill -s just allows you to send a particular signal to a process, in this case kill
[17:27] <noir_lord> its functionally the same as kill 9
[17:27] <Neremor> thanks :)
[17:27] <Neremor> that worked, now i don't have to restart my pc anymore if pulseaudio crashes :)
[17:27] <Neremor> and that happens very often ;)
[17:29] <noir_lord> be wary of over using it though since you are sending SIGKILL and thats untrappable
[17:29] <noir_lord> any resources allocated to the process may not be released
[17:29] <noir_lord> including temporary files and other state data
[17:30] <freeRag> this channel is buzzier then M$ core developers channel :)
[17:31] <freeRag> SIGKILL sounds like danger too me
[17:32] <noir_lord> its not optimal to use it but sometimes you have little choice, as with most *nix commands improperly used you can blow your own foot off
[17:32] <freeRag> thats noir_lord u tha killah rrright ?
[17:33] <freeRag> :-)
[17:33] <freeRag> met  noir_lord the best haxor on the web
[17:34] <freeRag> noir_lord: dont kill MY connection pls!
[17:45] <rocio> HALP!
[17:45] <rocio> my box just froze stone cold.
[17:45] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part ; i've tried xrandr --size 640x480 --rate 60 but my laptop screen does not support this refresh rate.
[17:45] <rocio> how can i konw what happened?!?
[17:46] <user74> hello to all
[17:47] <bukharin> i got a full freeze... nev er happende to me before, is there a log i can check on reboot to see what happened?
[17:47] <user74> newby question can anyone tell me how to copy some file to /usr/share/virtualbox
[17:48] <noir_lord> sudo cp <filename> /usr/share/virtualbox not work?
[17:48] <bukharin> box doesn't reply to pings, fully dead...
[17:49] <user74> thanks lord
[17:49] <user74> hehehe jebus save me i just getting forget the commands
[17:50] <noir_lord> bukharin, normally you would start with /var/log/messages I think unless you suspect some other subsytem of causing the crash
[17:50] <bukharin> noir_lord: ok, will look into that. i'm suspecting a hw failure, as it is completely dead, no mouse, no nothing.
[17:51] <bukharin> should a busted ram or hd appear in messages?
[17:51] <noir_lord> bukharin, possible, also have a look in /var/log/dmesg
[17:52] <bukharin> aha... and how can i determine if the messages are from the past session or the new one?
[17:52] <bukharin> do the logs get rotated on boot?
[17:54] <noir_lord> bukarin, not sure what the behaviour is on Ubuntu/Kubuntu but normally yes
[17:54] <bukharin> ok, so i can expect to find an older log with a timestamp corresponding with the lock up?
[17:54] <user74> brb
[17:55] <bukharin> (sorry for the many questions, but i want to know how to preserve the onfo before presing the reset button...)
[17:55] <bukharin> info*
[17:55] <noir_lord> bukharin, make a folder in your home directory then copy all the output from /var/log to that
[17:55] <noir_lord> directory in your home directory* (too many years of windows)
[17:57] <bukharin> noir_lord: sorry, could you develop?
[17:57] <bukharin> you mean, rebbot, and inmeadiately copy all contents of var/log somewhere?
[17:58] <noir_lord> bukharin, is the system completely frozen?
[17:59] <bukharin> yep.
[17:59] <bukharin> stone cold dead. not even beeps when i move the mouse.
[17:59] <noir_lord> bukharin, then restarting will stomp over some of the stuff in /log at the moment, if you want to preserve that then if it was me I'd boot of a LiveCD/USB Drive, mount the partition and copy the files
[17:59] <bukharin> i haven't re-cycled it yet... i want to ensure i save all relevatn info :P
[18:00] <bukharin> aha! good idea.
[18:00] <bukharin> yes, i think i will do just that. thx a bunch for the tip
[18:00] <noir_lord> not a problem, hope it helps :)
[18:00] <bukharin> i hope my ram didn't fry or something :S
[18:01] <bukharin> see youlater, i'm sure to come back for help deciphering the contents of the logs :D
[18:03] <bukharin> ok, doing good, box passed POST with no warnings... at least i have ram still :)
[18:05] <noir_lord> if you suspect the ram try running memtest86
[18:05] <noir_lord> iirc Kubuntu has that on the live CD (someone can probably confirm)
[18:07] <venik212> when I reboot my 64 bit HP Kubuntu 8.10 machine, it often (but not always) gets stuck in Starting Bluetooth devices, and cannot continue.  TO get it going, I have to start several times.  Is there a way around this old bug?
[18:08] <casper_> i got a problem about me shutting down my system, i dont have a turn off button in the restart/change account menu
[18:08] <casper_> anyone know how i get it back?
[18:12] <rabx> Im using Konversaition in Hardy, and cannot get identd to work port 113 is forwarded - any ideas ppl ?
[18:15] <bukharin> noir_lord sorry, was busy saving the logs... memtest86 would perform a thorough ram test?
[18:15] <noir_lord> yes
[18:16] <noir_lord> it was designed for the purpose, it checks every byte by writing specific patterns of bits, it can find really obscure memory errors, its not infallible but its useful to rule out certain kinds of problems
[18:18] <bukharin> noir_lord, ok, will look into that too.
[18:19] <rabx> hmmm, nobody awake who knows about identd ??
[18:22] <bukharin> ok, i have the logs... but i can'f find anything in messages or syslog
[18:22] <bukharin> could kdm or X hang the machine like that?
[18:24] <noir_lord> have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you suspect x11
[18:24] <noir_lord> grep for '(EE)' if its a long log file
[18:24] <bukharin> nothing there either
[18:25] <bukharin> ls -l --sort=t shows auth.log and sys.log as the last modified files...
[18:26] <noir_lord> buk, its possible it crashed so hard/fast it didnt have time to output to the logs, has this system been previously stable?
[18:27] <bukharin> now that you mention it, i seem to recall something similar a few days before. but yes, in general it has been rock stable.
[18:27] <ubuntu> привет всем, помогите пож-та, слетела виста пришлось грузиться с Live CD, как востановить не теряя данные?
[18:27] <noir_lord> changed any drivers/hardware recently?
[18:27] <bukharin> intrepid messed up a few things, though, but hadn't produced system locks until now
[18:27] <bukharin> mmm, nop
[18:28] <bukharin> unless something managed to get through apt... but  i usually check the updates.
[18:28] <noir_lord> has found Kubuntu 8.10 to be a bit unstable at best, had a couple of X crashes and KDE 4.1 was about as stable as britney spears
[18:29] <bukharin> well, i have had some stability issues in specific things...  i dont know, dolphin crashung when moving files, or plasma crashiung and restarting from time to time...
[18:29] <noir_lord> upgrading to the nvidia 180 drivers and switching to the RC for KDE 4.2 has (ironically considering its an RC) been much more stable
[18:29] <bukharin> but a full system lock? not even mouse or keyboard responding?
[18:30] <bukharin> well, i think that i will wipe the system and start ove with jaunty.
[18:30] <bukharin> i just want to make sure that neither the ram or the hd failed...
[18:30] <noir_lord> buk, Ive only seen that happen twice running linux (once with Kubuntu and once with slackware), the time with Kubuntu I never figured out the problem, the time with slackware the fan had failed and the processor was melting
[18:31] <noir_lord> important lesson, dont use cheap fans on the processor, do install thermal managment software and dont disable thermal warnings in the bios heh
[18:31] <bukharin> well, i only seen it once on windows.... and it was a hd failure. "click" and then nothing. but i still use that hd :P
[18:31] <bukharin> not on this box, though
[18:32] <noir_lord> bukharin, if you suspect the HD most manufacturers have software you can run from a boot disk that will run their diagnostics against the suspect drive
[18:32] <bukharin> he, i got a pound of thermaltake copper sitting on my cpu
[18:32] <tue> Hello, is there a command i can type to find out what chipset my computer uses?
[18:32] <bukharin> might be a little dusty, but usually, it operates at 30 celsius or the like
[18:32] <noir_lord> tue, lspci
[18:33] <bukharin> well. it seems i won't find anything on the logs. will reboot to memtest86, and see if i can get some good hd stress tests around
[18:33] <bukharin> thanks for the help...
[18:33] <noir_lord> bukharin, no problem
[18:36] <tue> noir_lord: this is the output. http://paste.ubuntu.com/108329/ does this mean i have a 945g chipset? because lenovos page about my computer says its either a 975, 955 or 965 :-(.
[18:36] <tue> noir_lord: its because im trying to buy some ram and then i need to find out how much it can address.
[18:36] <noir_lord> tue, dual booting the machine with windows?
[18:36] <tue> noir_lord: yah
[18:37] <noir_lord> tue, crucial.com has a neat little utility (windows only) that will tell you what the maximum amount of ram your system can utilise is
[18:38] <tue> noir_lord: ah, this is really cool :-) . you know if its reliable? i suppose i can also try the device manager in windows and see if it says something about the chipset.
[18:38] <tue> noir_lord: just feels silly to trust windows with something like this ;-)
[18:38] <noir_lord> tue, I've been recommending it to customers for a while, if its not reliable then I'd be in a world of hurt by now ;)
[18:39] <tue> noir_lord: okay, thats all i need :-) . thanks a lot for the help!
[18:39] <noir_lord> tue, no problem
[18:40] <venik212> The Nvidia 177 driver messes up under Kubuntu 8.10 on my HP 64 bit machine (kde 4.1)-- it leaves lines all over the place, and shows great hesitation.  WIthout it, however, I cannot get desktop effects.... ;-(
[18:40] <noir_lord> venik, tried 180?
[18:41] <venik212> I did not know they had 180.  I got 177 from the window that popped up when I clicked on Hardware Drivers
[18:41] <noir_lord> nvidia-glx-180
[18:42] <noir_lord> its nearly current its 180.11 (current on nvidia.com is 180.22)
[18:42] <venik212> where do I get it and how do I install it?
[18:42] <noir_lord> iirc its in the normal repos, so it should just be sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-180
[18:43] <noir_lord> for some reason it doesnt show up under the hardware driver managment tool but its in the repo's
[18:43] <venik212> thanks-- I shall try it
[18:44] <noir_lord> I had major problems with 177 but 180 has been much more reliable (Im on an AMD64x2 running 32bit Kubuntu and a 7600GT)
[18:46] <venik212> I just installed it, and got a fatal error from Kmix
[18:47] <hyper__ch> venik212: what did you install?
[18:47] <venik212> the 180 nvidia video driver
[18:48] <venik212> nvidia-glx-180
[18:48] <venik212> but despite the error, things seem to be working
[18:48] <noir_lord> venik, I had a few kmix crashes as well but I dont think it had anything to do with the nvidia drivers, it was just unstable from the start with 8.10
[18:48] <cp> hola
[18:48] <hyper__ch> which version of it?
[18:48] <venik212> I agree-- I saw the same thing
[18:48] <cp> cesar
[18:49] <noir_lord> I did something I dont normally do and ran a RC on a production system (KDE4.2RC) and its *much* better
[18:49] <cp> good bye
[18:49] <venik212> However, I still have those weird lines when the screen saver kicks in
[18:50] <noir_lord> describe the lines
[18:50] <venik212> noir-- can you explain what you mean by RC?  Reconfigure?  if so, how?
[18:50] <venik212> an empty square or two
[18:50] <noir_lord> RC == Release Candidate
[18:50] <fhensley> RC = Release Candidate version
[18:50] <noir_lord> the final version they release before the release the "final" version
[18:51] <venik212> oh.... I would have thought that the final release would be better.  Was that wrong?
[18:51] <noir_lord> typically an RC sits between a Beta and a Final Release (unless your Microsoft then you just release the Beta and what should be the RC is called Service Pack 1)
[18:51] <noir_lord> venik, there isnt a final release of KDE4.2 yet (its not due till end of the month)
[18:52] <venik212> I can live with this, but I hate the delay that I feel when I click on an application.  It was not there until I install the proprietary driver
[18:52] <noir_lord> venik212 its possible its one of the compositing effects misbehaving, try switching them off and seeing if that helps
[18:53] <venik212> until then the machine was amazingly responsive
[18:53] <noir_lord> menu transitions are a particular pain for me
[18:54] <venik212> do u have any idea about the Bluetooth-related  hangup during restarting?
[18:54] <venik212> THis seeems to be an old bug (2005?), but it is still with us
[18:57] <noir_lord> venik212, if you want to play with the compositing options for kwin, Alt+F3 and then Configure Window Behaviour , they are in there
[18:57] <noir_lord> to be honest I turned all of them off pretty much (eye candy just slows things down)
[18:58] <venik212> I do this through the system settings
[18:58] <noir_lord> shrugs, same result thats just the way I get to the options quickly
[19:00] <venik212> Yes, things are much faster without the effects, but I sort of liked them, and thought that with the right driver, things will work just fine
[19:01] <JackWinter> i have 8.10 in a vbox.  thought it might be a good idea to install the virtual kernel.  now /boot/grub/menu.lst shows the server kernel installed while adept show the virtual kernel installed.  any ideas ?
[19:01] <noir_lord> venik212 there is a problem with the current nvidia drivers on linux, Qt4 seems to make extensive use of some features in XRender that nvidia didnt implement completely/test properly
[19:02] <J_A_X> how do I get a time/date widget into a panel? there doesn't seem to have one installed by default...
[19:02] <noir_lord> J_A_X, you know how to add widgets to a panel?
[19:02] <J_A_X> yes
[19:03] <noir_lord> J_A_X, when you add a widget one of the ones on the list is "Simple Digital Clock"
[19:03] <noir_lord> add that then right click on it, Digital Clock Settings, then select "Show Date"
[19:03] <J_A_X> huh, can't believe I didn't see that one before...
[19:03] <venik212> Thanks, Noir.  This confirms my observations.  I can live with that for now
[19:04] <J_A_X> thanks
[19:04] <venik212> thanks for pointing out the existence of 180
[19:04] <noir_lord> no problem
[19:04] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part ; i've tried xrandr --size 640x480 --rate 60 but my laptop screen does not support this refresh rate.
[19:04] <J_A_X> man, kubuntu + compiz = teh win
[19:27] <J_A_X> how do you mount a windows shared drive?
[19:27] <J_A_X> using dolphin?
[19:28] <J_A_X> or do you have to go through terminal?
[19:29] <fhensley> Mounting a Windows NTFS Partition - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/i-want-to-mount-ntfs-partitions-after-booting-kubuntu-435704/
[19:31] <wesley_>  amsn gives me the error that there is no capture loaded
[19:35] <wesley_> whats a other msn program that can cam
[19:37] <AliTarihi> any idea why powerdevil does not lock the screen on resume? (KDE 4.2 but the same on 4.1)
[19:37] <J_A_X> fhensley: I don't want to mount an NTFS partition, but a network windows drive
[19:41] <fhensley> J_A_X - Have you tried clicking "Network" on the Places panel within Dolphin and following the prompts?
[19:43] <J_A_X> I can get to the drive no problem
[19:43] <J_A_X> I just want to mount it
[19:43] <jussi01> !samba | JackWinter
[19:43] <jussi01> !samba | J_A_X
[19:44] <jussi01> sorry JackWinter
[19:47] <fhensley> J_A_X - If you can see the drive contents, then it *is* mounted...  Are you wishing to automount a Windows network share every time you power up the workstation?  If so, I might manually edit /etc/fstab, but am now aware of a solution via dolphin..
[19:47] <fhensley> now=not..
[19:49] <wesley_> what are msn clients where i can use a cam
[19:56] <wesley_> !msn
[19:56] <slow-motion> hi
[19:58] <wesley_> !kopete
[19:58] <wesley_> !kopete-kde3
[20:01] <||arifaX> hi, i created a new partitition, formatted it, created /vmachines and did an fstab entry. what permissions do I have to set now in fstab or on /vmachines to make it working for my user? in fstab I did a duplicate of / but changed the UUID and the mountpoint
[20:08] <fhensley> Jarifax - Do a "man mount" from the console, paying attention to the "-o" options for elements to customize fstab for specific users or groups..
[20:14] <edilson> como puedo instalar una webcam logitec
[20:15] <bazhang> !webcam
[20:15] <bazhang> edilson, check the link to see if it is supported ^^
[20:16] <techbw> hi all.
[20:16] <techbw> I wonder if someone can help me with flash player in firefox?
[20:16] <bazhang> !flash
[20:17] <techbw> I have kubuntu 8.04 and managed to install flash 9 and it was working on firefox, now only working in konqueror
[20:17] <techbw> youtube video loads, and only a white space is displayed and the about:plugins shows that it is installed
[20:18] <bazhang> techbw, with compiz or not
[20:19] <techbw> no I tried installing compiz, but have a SiS graphics, so removed it, it was working after I removed compiz though
[20:19] <techbw> just disabled, and enabled will let you know if it worked
[20:19] <bazhang> techbw, did you try and remove then reinstall flash with firefox closed
[20:20] <techbw> no have not, cos it took forever to get it installed, and flash 10 is a no go, have even tried to manually copy to plugins directory, but that too did not work
[20:20] <ncfi1013> is there an equivalent to internet explorer for firefox?
[20:20] <techbw> will try remove now
[20:21] <neothecat> hello.  i am running KDE RC 2.  i set it up, and it says my inbox has 1K unread messages,  when i select "Inbox", it crashes, and there is no backtrace.  if there are not any unread messages in a folder, it reads it fine.  as anyone else seen this problem and know a way around it?
[20:23] <PhilRod> neothecat: I get around those by deleting the indexes: they're in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap (for imap indexes at least)
[20:23] <jenda> ahoj
[20:23] <PhilRod> neothecat: try renaming that folder and reopening kmail
[20:23] <jenda> muzu poprosit o radu s pridavanim zdroju? jsem linux newbie :-)
[20:23] <bazhang> !cz
[20:23] <bazhang> jenda, ^^
[20:24] <techbw> I have removed flash using apt, but it is still showing when I about:plugins in konqueror, and firefox, how to I totally remove so that it uninstalls from firefox and konqueror
[20:24] <neothecat> PhilRod:  thanks, i'll give it a try.  but for the renaming the folder, it's the "Inbox" folder.
[20:24] <PhilRod> neothecat: no, I mean rename ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap/
[20:24] <jenda> hi, can someone hep me with adding-removing sources?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> techbw, whay are you uninstalling flash
[20:24] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:24] <neothecat> PhilRod: ooops, sorry.  thanks :)
[20:25] <techbw> to reinstall, it's not working in firefox
[20:25] <techbw> was only working in konqueror
[20:25] <BluesKaj> jenda , adding-removing sources in sourceslist or adept or both
[20:25] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:27] <techbw> BluesKaj:  I am removing flash to re-install, as it was not working in firefox, but even after removing in apt, it still shows up in about:firefox
[20:27] <BluesKaj> techbw, check apt or adept for "flashplugin-nonfree", that's what you should be using in FF
[20:28] <techbw> I installed from an old download of flash 9, as flash 10 did not want to work with either, for some unknow reason, it looks like a problem many people are having, only way I got vids to work was flash 9 but that died today for no reason in firefox
[20:29] <techbw> tried flashplugin-nonfree
[20:29] <techbw> did not work
[20:29] <techbw> also tried adobe-flashplugin
[20:31] <Mand> ciao
[20:31] <Mand> a tutti
[20:32] <Mand> cè nessuno?
[20:32] <bazhang> !it
[20:33] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[20:33] <neothecat> PhilRod: so far, so good.  i think the 1K+ new emails was to much for it.
[20:40] <J_A_X> hum, sound doesn't seem to work in kubuntu, is there a way to configure this?
[20:40] <J_A_X> or auto-detect the drivers?
[20:41] <bukharin> hello! doe anyone know of any good app to maange a collection of pdf aticles?
[20:41] <bukharin> ie, a bunch of leeched jstor file?
[20:41] <bukharin> files*
[20:42] <lakis1982> i have an old pc that i will change now and i was thinking to make it as a server inside my home network ... so that all my files are stored there ... is it better if a buy an external ethernet hard disk case and mount two hard disks inside  ???
[20:43] <bukharin> Iakis1982: if i were you, i'd get one of those SAN boxes where you can hotplug a bunch of satas into raid...
[20:44] <bukharin> Iakis1982 but they can set you back a coupleo' hundred...
[20:45] <bukharin> or, alternatively, you can buy a good sata controller card, and plug the drives directly into your old box... which would be like building your own san box, actually :)
[20:45] <lakis1982> yes
[20:46] <lakis1982> but whihc solution would be better.  which one would achieve better transfer speeds ?
[20:46] <paolo_> hi. I upgraded kde4.1 to 4.2 RC1 as suggested in the topic but something caused a mess in apt. now, when I try to install a new package, apt doesn't work and tells me to do "apt-get -f install". I have no result if I do this last operation... what should I do ?
[20:46] <lakis1982> in may reviews i have heard that most san boxes do not have good transfer speeds .... maximum 15mb/sec...
[20:48] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part ; i've tried xrandr --size 640x480 --rate 60 but my laptop screen does not support this refresh rate.
[20:48] <bukharin> Iakis1982: usualñly, when you have a san box or the like, all traffic is done through a network interface, and that is usually the bottleneck.
[20:49] <bukharin> traitionally, you'd plug the san as an exported nfs filesystem...
[20:49] <mooperd> I want to use the latest version of asterisk from svn, is there anything I should do before doing this or should it just work?
[20:49] <mooperd> should I uninstall it first for instance?
[20:49] <bukharin> but the important  question is... you want good tranfer rates between whcih points of the network?
[20:50] <lakis1982> between my everyday pc and the server ...
[20:50] <Muzer> argh, I miss katapult
[20:50] <Muzer> why was it removed from the repos?
[20:50] <paolo_> please help me :)
[20:50] <bukharin> Iakis1982, well, in that case, traffic is going to be through the network, and the ethernet link will be the main bottleneck.
[20:51] <lakis1982> and what does this mean ?
[20:51] <bukharin> Iakis1982, the alternative i mentioned would imply differente tr between the server and the bunch o disks...
[20:51] <techbw> hi I am back, managed to get Flash9 running again, when I was installing flash on a remote pc I must have done somthing locally, cos the file was a newer file that it should have been.  All I did was copy the .so file back into /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/plugins directory, because it does not work if you run the setup file included, cos then it wants to install to /usr/lib/mozilla
[20:52] <bukharin> Iakis1982: it means that is not so relevant
[20:52] <bukharin> Iaki1982: with the same box acting as SAN and network router/server, that box is going to have good transfer rates to disk.
[20:53] <bukharin> Iakis1982. with two boxes, one acting as server and the other as SAN, you will have somewhat slower transfger rates between disk and server...
[20:54] <bukharin> Iakis1982 but in both cases your pc would conect to the disk through ethernet, either PC -> server -> san or PC -> server/san
[20:55] <lakis1982> yes but i think that if i make the old pc a server and i connect it to the router , and also connect to the router my everyday pc that i use , that transfer rates would be better....
[20:55] <bukharin> ok, now i know how to ask my question in better terms: anyone knows a good personal document management system for KDE?
[20:56] <bukharin> Iakis1982: as opposed to?
[20:56] <lakis1982> as opposed to a san connecting to the router and my everyday pc connectin to the router...
[21:01] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> Hi all. I've just upgraded to intrepid. however now my arrow keys (and certain others such as del, insert etc) don't work in KDE. They do however seem to work if I open up another terminal session and login text only. any ideas?
[21:04] <bukharin> Iakis1982: you have many options for the layout of a lan. i thought that ou were asking about wether to get another box to handle the disks, or handle them directly with your old box...
[21:04] <mooperd> is there anything I should consider when compiling and installing asterisk from svn on my kubuntu 8.10 install?
[21:04] <bukharin> Iakis1982 i don't think youll get a vast improvement in tranfer speed between those two, its main features would lie in security, redundancy, etc.
[21:05] <BluesKaj> mooperd. yerah be prepared for probs with svn sourced stuff
[21:07] <techbw> BluesKaj: Thanks for the help just now, I managed to get flash working, had to copy the .so file for flash into the kubuntu mozilla directory, for some reason it sees /usr/lib/mozilla as install directory in the installer, but it actually is /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/
[21:08] <paolo_> hi. I upgraded kde4.1 to 4.2 RC1 as suggested in the topic but something caused a mess in apt. now, when I try to install a new package, apt doesn't work and tells me to do "apt-get -f install". I have no result if I do this last operation... what should I do ?
[21:08] <BluesKaj> right techbw , that's an old prob , are you running an older version of kubuntu ?
[21:08] <techbw> I am running Kubuntu 8.04
[21:09] <techbw> still downloading 8.10 alternate
[21:09] <techbw> want to try upgrading instead of clean install...have never done that before
[21:10] <BluesKaj> paolo_ try this,  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[21:10] <BluesKaj> upgrading works well
[21:11] <mooperd> BluesKaj: What type of problems and will they be reversable?
[21:11] <paolo_> BluesKaj: nothing solved :(
[21:13] <BluesKaj> paolo_ , then try  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:13] <paolo_> BluesKaj: neither...
[21:14] <BluesKaj> do you have a package manager open somewhere
[21:15] <paolo_> BluesKaj: no
[21:16] <BluesKaj> paolo , have you updated apt since you upgraded kde ?
[21:17] <paolo_> BluesKaj: I can't update anything
[21:17] <BluesKaj> paolo_ can you open adept ?
[21:17] <paolo_> BluesKaj: yes
[21:18] <paolo_> synaptic too
[21:21] <BluesKaj> ok, then make sure you r thirdparty sources are open and make the cdrom source is not...it could be interfering
[21:22] <carmen> ciao
[21:22] <paolo_> BluesKaj: and which is the cdrom one ? so I can comment out it from the source list
[21:22] <carmen> !list
[21:22] <bukharin> hello, anyone knows how can i configure the appearance of old kde 3.5.10 apps under intrepid with kde4?
[21:24] <BluesKaj> paolo_, it'll start with: # deb cdrom ...mkae sure it's commented
[21:24] <usuario_> hola alguien que me pueda ayudar
[21:24] <paolo_> BluesKaj: but I don't have a cdrom inserted
[21:25] <BluesKaj> no matter. paolo it will sit and wait for one
[21:26] <Nomexous> usuario_: !es
[21:26] <Nomexous> !es | usuario
[21:27] <BluesKaj> paolo_ , if you comment it , then apt won't look for anything there , whether a cdrom is inserted or not makes no difference
[21:27] <paolo_> BluesKaj: let's try
[21:28] <vincent__> Hi guys, I have a question about Dragon Player: it always starts with a video as small as a stamp and I always have to resize it manually. When opening the same with gmplayer, it will adapt to the video default size. How can I have the same behavior with Dragon Player?
[21:28] <paolo_> BluesKaj: it's already commented
[21:29] <BluesKaj> ok, paolo_ , then I'm stumped ...but maybe a reboot will help , dunno for sure
[21:29] <bukharin> usuario_ yo hablo español
[21:29] <paolo_> BluesKaj: I've tried all... thanks anyway for your help
[21:30] <BluesKaj> sry we couldn't solve it, paolo_ :P
[21:30] <paolo_> BluesKaj: don't worry
[21:31] <BluesKaj> vincent__ , may I suggest you try Kaffeine instead
[21:33] <vincent__> Dragon player is the default one... But I can try, yes. Why do you prefer Kaffeine?
[21:34] <BluesKaj> more mature, more options and more stable , vincent__
[21:35] <david_edmundson> vincent__: it's a bug in Dragon Player
[21:35] <david_edmundson> it's been fixed - but only in the past week
[21:35] <david_edmundson> it won't make it into 4.2
[21:35] <david_edmundson> it will be in 4.2.1
[21:35] <BluesKaj> I have it in 4.2 , david_edmundson
[21:36] <BluesKaj> but i don't bother with it
[21:36] <wesley_> I have a problem with amsn, i cant set the brightness right
[21:36] <david_edmundson> the patch isn't in 4.2.0
[21:38] <david_edmundson> BluesKaj: what would Dragon need for you to bother with it?
[21:38] <david_edmundson> this may be a bit off topic so jump to #dragonplayer
[21:38] <wesley_> Why arent my contacts in msn in kopete getting a cam invite when i invite them ?
[21:39] <BluesKaj> kaffeine is fine in my experience , my alternative is usually VLC
[21:39] <vincent__> OK, then I think I will stick with gnome-mplayer or try VLCk, I like simple and kafeine looks too cluttered...
[21:39] <david_edmundson> vincent__: when 4.2.1 comes out, could you check back on Dragon
[21:39] <david_edmundson> it'll have the fixes
[21:39] <david_edmundson> many fixes in fact
[21:40] <vincent__> when is 4.2.1 scheduled for?
[21:40] <bukharin> how am i supposed to use strigi if strigi protocol is not supported in konqueror? am i missing some critical package?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> kaffeine has a lot more options , like fastforward to check if conversion went correctly etc
[21:43] <wesley_> what another msn client where i can cam ?
[21:44] <david_edmundson> dragon has seeking througha file
[21:45] <david_edmundson> BluesKaj: I'm not trying to have a go at you or anything - I just want to make Dragon better
[21:51] <BluesKaj> david_edmundson , no offence taken.. we all have our preferences ..I merely gave my reasons for them
[21:52] <david_edmundson> aye. well check back on us at some point
[21:53] <david_edmundson> the entire full screen toolbar is being rewritten (once I stop pissing about on IRC) and it's having a shiny view for displaying metadata whilst playing audio
[21:53] <david_edmundson> I'll win you over at 4.3 :-)
[21:53] <BluesKaj> david_edmundson , using amarok 2 ?
[21:54] <david_edmundson> I am.
[21:54] <david_edmundson> oh
[21:54] <david_edmundson> the view isn't
[21:54] <david_edmundson> it's just ID3 tags
[21:54] <david_edmundson> but it's better than a blank white screen
[21:54] <paolo_> hi. I upgraded kde4.1 to 4.2 RC1 as suggested in the topic but something caused a mess in apt. now, when I try to install a new package, apt doesn't work and tells me to do "apt-get -f install". I have no result if I do this last operation... what should I do ?
[21:54] <neothecat> hello.  if i want to share my kontact calendar, not only on kontact on my desktop, but with an online calendar also, does anybody have any recommendations?  the online calendar can be part of a groupware server i install.  thanks.
[21:57] <BluesKaj> paolo_ , do you have the experimental deb ppa repos in your sources.list ?
[22:00] <paolo_> BluesKaj: solved all! see this article
[22:00] <paolo_> http://itechlog.com/linux/2008/12/18/fix-broken-package-ubuntu/
[22:07] <BluesKaj> paolo_ , sorry didn't realize it was a broken package , sometimes one can use synaptic/edit/fix broken packages to do the same thing as the article.
[22:07] <paolo_> BluesKaj: I tried fix-broken option, but without results
[22:08] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:08] <paolo_> the article suggested other ways
[22:09] <besitzer__> n,n ,.
[22:19] <stnormal> anyone know how to install libdrm-intel?
[22:19] <enzo50> ciao
[22:19] <enzo50> we
[22:20] <stnormal> i'm not sure which repositories i have to add to include libdrm-intel
[22:20] <stnormal> and google isn't being halpful at all
[22:36] <LKS-chel> hm..
[22:36] <LKS-chel> hi all =)
[22:42] <lakis1982> has anyone tried making an old pc to a home server ??
[22:50] <Stathis`> hey all
[22:56] <venik212> when I try to use some web sites that require Java on my 64 bit Kubuntu (8.10) I am told that Java is not installed.  But it IS installed, and checked in the Firefox preferences
[22:56] <venik212> what do I do?
[22:56] <Raylz1> how do i exapnd my desktop folder to fullscreen in 4.2rc?
[22:58] <venik212> is 4.2 RC working well?  Should I try it?
[22:58] <Raylz1> venik212: only some minor graphic bugs in the systray
[22:59] <Raylz1> upgrade is definitely worth it
[22:59] <lakis1982> how can i install kde 4.2rc ??i now have kde 4.1.4
[22:59] <venik212> how do I find the latest version of my kde?
[23:00] <fliegenderfrosch> lakis1982: depends on the distribution
[23:00] <fliegenderfrosch> ah sorry
[23:00] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[23:00] <fliegenderfrosch> didn’t see that this is the kubuntu channel, thought it was kde
[23:00] <lakis1982> ok..so?
[23:00] <fliegenderfrosch> lakis1982: see here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1
[23:01] <Raylz1> venik212: open some help -> about kde windows
[23:01] <noir_lord> lakis1982, you need to add the correct repositories
[23:01] <fliegenderfrosch> venik212: which version do you mean? the latest of kde 3.5 series? the latest stable kde4 version? the latest unstable kde4 version?
[23:02] <noir_lord> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1 has instructions
[23:02] <venik212> I would like to find out which version of KDE 4.1? I am running now
[23:02] <venik212> on Kubuntu 8.10
[23:02] <noir_lord> open a console and type konqueror --version
[23:08] <stnormal> my 3d graphics in open windows aren't working right. I can see the stuff being rendered, but when I move my mouse, everything turns to garbage or black
[23:10] <stnormal> also: How do I disable the click on my trackpad? It's way too sensitive, and i prefer using the buttons anyhow
[23:12] <mooperd>  I need to install a version of asterics later than the standard one in the ubuntu repositories. Can anyone advise me on how to go about this. I tried downloading from the svn and compiling but I got pid lock file problems and it was all a bit ropey
[23:12] <mooperd> asterisk
[23:16] <Ketrel> I'm having two problems with the Network manager
[23:17] <Ketrel> 1. I can't have more than one set to autoconnect, and 2. It won't autoconnect to a network with SSID broadcast off. (This is in 8.10, and neither of these were problems in 8.04)
[23:19] <supert0nes> somehow my codecs got all messed up for wmv and xvid how do i fix that?
[23:19] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu 8 and firefox 3.. how can i change the fonts of firefox ..  mean the fonts that are displayed in the menubar , in the tabs ......
[23:23] <lakis1982> ?
[23:23] <fliegenderfrosch> lakis1982: just a wild guess, but it is possible that it changes when the gnome settings are changed, as firefox uses GTK afaik
[23:24] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu 8
[23:26] <fliegenderfrosch> lakis1982: i know. (you probably mean 8.04 or 8.10). but firefox happens to be a gtk program, and they usually use the gnome settings afaik
[23:28] <lakis1982> so i cant change the fonts in menubar etc ??
[23:29] <venik212> Where do I set the background for what used to be called the Desktop (main windows) in KDE 4.1?
[23:30] <venik212> Like MS, the Ubuntu folks hide functions as ssoon as I learn where they reside in the menus
[23:30] <fliegenderfrosch> lakis1982: i’ve got an entry in systemsettings, appearance, gtk-styles and fonts
[23:30] <fliegenderfrosch> lakis1982: maybe you could look there
[23:31] <venik212> I looked everywhere in System Settings, but cannot find it in Appearance, Desktop, Windows behavior, etc.
[23:31] <velgiak> hi
[23:31] <fliegenderfrosch> venik212: rightclick on the desktop?
[23:31] <velgiak> i need help
[23:31] <velgiak> i installed a package for my printer
[23:32] <velgiak> but it give me an error
[23:32] <venik212> Yes, it USED to be doable by a right click on the desktop, but alaas, not in kde 4.1
[23:32] <velgiak> if i try to uninstall, linux says me that package in inconsistent and require to be reinstalled+
[23:32] <venik212> OK-- found it
[23:33] <velgiak> but i cant reinstall because it give me always the same error
[23:33] <velgiak> what can i do?
[23:35] <velgiak> nnobody can  help me?
[23:37] <fliegenderfrosch> velgiak: what is the error message?
[23:37] <supert0nes> has anyone else had codec problems today?
[23:40] <velgiak> one moment
[23:41] <velgiak> the packet is in an inconistent state, it may be reinstalled
[23:41] <velgiak> sorry for my english, but i try to translate from italian
[23:49] <khalidmian> how to i add conical to software sources in kubuntu
[23:51] <ubuntu_> olá
[23:51] <Leonard> olá
[23:53] <Leonard> hello
[23:55] <fliegenderfrosch> khalidmian: what do you mean with ‘conical’
[23:59] <HenryHeron> Hi, I'm having some Gnome troubles w/ a recent clean install of ubuntu 8.10 (disks, partition, network, cd/dvd rom won't mount, trash will not work, etc.) & I'm thinking of downloading kde desktop, is this do able? & which file do I call?