[00:03] hallo [00:03] habe ein problem mit kubuntu 8.10 [00:03] genauer gesagt ein problem mit der grafik [00:03] ist hier jemand der mir helfen kann? [00:04] Nein, du hast to sprech engels, das eine oder germaanse tale [00:05] hallo [00:05] hallo [00:06] habe ein problem mit kubuntu 8.10 und zwar mit der grafik [00:06] was fur eine grafik karte had du then ? [00:06] habe eine ati x1950 pro graka [00:07] ati is sheise, du kans google auf deine ati [00:07] aufm laptop läufts ohne probleme, aber auf pc mit ati nur probleme [00:07] #ubuntu-de [00:07] Ich bin immitating german sprache, so kan dich nich hilfen [00:08] ah ok [00:08] kennst du das problem denn? === moocow is now known as holycow [00:19] anyone know how to put panel on tvout (nvidia twinview? [00:19] +s [00:30] Anyone know how to fix the touchpad in Kubuntu Intrepid? I don't see a touch pad setting anywhere. I can fix it with the mouse settings but then it screws up my mouse when I use that [00:32] Hello. Is there a way in Kubuntu that I keep on working on a local file and once I save my file locally, some sort of software syncs that version of the file on a remote host - that I can ssh to [00:34] Goan: rsync and something to run it every so often [00:34] possibly dropbox might work, but on kubuntu you're stuck with the cli interface i think [00:35] It is a pain to keep scp'ing the saved file to the remote host, once after making changes locally [00:36] hmm, or unison? [00:37] http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ (there's a package too but good to read to see if its what you need) === john is now known as ghone [00:42] tks faileas, i'll have a look at it [00:42] ever came across kernel panics with caps lock flashing? [00:43] since last week, i am experiencing a lots of those === maite is now known as maitetxu56 [00:44] don't know if it is hardware or software issue.. called up lenovo t61 tech support, and they adviced me to unplug the hdd and plug it back in properly [00:44] will try it tonight [00:45] nope [00:45] i run an r61. only issue i have at the moment is everything not linux hating my ext3 partition ;) [00:45] hehe.. no problem here [00:46] (i run xp too. ext3 ifs, and acronis throw a fit at it. forums say its the inode size.... ) [00:48] i can find on net an another KMix sound Mixer ? [00:48] i need that for 5.1 boxes [00:48] now i have just 4 channels mode [00:49] and i need for 5.1 mode [00:54] hello [00:54] netsplit [01:00] KMix doesn't mute sound. 64-bit Hardy, SBLive Audigy 2 ZS [01:01] do the sliders modify the sound volume ok [01:01] ? [01:06] I'm having trouble compiling my video card driver. It is integrated video..some sort of intel. I got the right driver for it..but when I try, I get the error "The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules. Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on what went wrong." [01:06] any idea what is wrong and how to fix it? [01:06] :P [01:07] I'm assuming I need to install some sort of kernel module first..but im not sure what [01:07] ActionParsnip: Yes, they do [01:07] But the mute function does nothing [01:07] Blitzz|Kubuntu: are you using pulse or alsa? [01:08] * n00bi3 was waken up by the frosty cold weather [01:08] I have KDE set using OSS. I honestly don't even know which sound system is being used now. It might be using ALSA. :S [01:08] !sound [01:08] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [01:08] Pulse doesn't seem to be on here [01:08] * n00bi3 has a real cool dream about giant b00bs! [01:11] n00bi3, not here [01:12] ActionParsnip: Where do I look? [01:12] Blitzz|Kubuntu: its in the sound settings in systemsettings [01:13] Yeah, I've been there, I just didn't know if it actually had any effect [01:13] It's set on OSS [01:14] It also seems that some programs have noticeable sound lag, while others don't [01:15] Blitzz|Kubuntu: creative support is very limited, even in windows [01:15] Latency was fine in Windows... [01:19] Blitzz|Kubuntu: i dont know what to advise. I flat out avoid them as the support sucks hard [01:19] Blitzz|Kubuntu: try again later, diferent users in the channel etc [01:21] hmm. If i kept my home directory synchronised between two systems, would it keep track of what i've read on akrigator, and my firefox history? [01:21] hi there... when I try to configure samba share through dolphin nothing happens [01:21] when I try to run kdesudo kcmshell4 fileshare I get [01:21] kcmshell(22452) KServiceFactory::findServiceByDesktopPath: "findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found" [01:22] Can anybody help me? [01:22] faileas: just share your home directory and smbmount it to use it on the 2 systems. I'd imagine if you did use sync then the settings would fly over too including history etc [01:23] alipio: i can show you how to configure samba using smb.conf, its ridiculously easy [01:23] ActionParsnip: naw, its for backing up. i MIGHT need to temporarily wipe my linux partition [01:23] alipio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 [01:24] I know.. but I'd want to learn my brother to configure that through GUI [01:24] alipio: i only know the file, I can send you mine to inspect if you like [01:25] ActionParsnip: the plan is to use unison to test it. if it works, its cool but i can't be bothered to test something that dosen't work right at this moment [01:25] faileas: sounds like a project [01:26] ActionParsnip: actually no. getting a decent backup of my laptop is. ;p [01:26] ActionParsnip: It's not necessary... but thanks.. I'm going to configure the file for him... but I'd want to know if there is a bug in kubuntu kdenetwork-fileshare package or something like that... [01:26] faileas: i just cron a cp task to run at 5am, simple yet effective [01:27] alipio: you could try later if you arent in a massive hurry [01:27] hi [01:27] ActionParsnip: not as fun ;) [01:27] i want to know how do i get disk information on the console [01:27] and i can do this over a network [01:28] faileas: smbmount and cp [01:28] amelie: what sort of info do you need? [01:28] ActionParsnip: not as fun ;p [01:28] amelie: how what? disk space? [01:29] and any changes on one homedir is automagically propagated on the other [01:29] df -h [01:29] yes [01:29] disk space [01:29] * n00b13 has a real cool dream about giant b00bs! [01:30] thank you very much alipio [01:30] ok [01:32] amelie: df -h will show disk usage, the -h means humanly readable [01:32] amelie: if you want to view partition info there is: sudo fdisk -l [01:33] thanks [01:33] Is there a way to download the sent mails (which were sent via web interface) ? [01:33] you guys are very kind [01:33] thank you very much [01:35] If I start updating from hardy to intrepid, could I loose my data during the process .. in case lets say, there is an error or something during installation [01:38] Goan: shouldnt be, if you want, run your backup just before the update but it is very much a safe process imho [01:38] Is there a backup utility that I can use? [01:39] Is swap just as good as ram? [01:39] !backup [01:39] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [01:40] TweakedEh: its a tonne slower but if you need the capacity its cool [01:40] ActionParsnip: alright, Thanks. [01:40] TweakedEh: its like the pagefile in windows [01:41] TweakedEh: except windows is isnt smart enough to have it on its own partition so it can affect fragmentation [01:42] ActionParsnip: Lol, So would it still be worth it to go out and get a new ram card? [01:44] TweakedEh: if you need extra ram for activities, grab some. its cheap [01:45] ActionParsnip: well in theory you can have a windows style swap file ;p [01:45] faileas: true [01:46] faileas: i'd rather have it on a different disk, extra speed [01:47] ActionParsnip: and i think a poweruser of windows can move the pagefile to its own partition [01:47] a lot of sillyness is mainly cause they chose a different approach ;) === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [01:55] faileas: well the default user model is admin so you should be ok :D [01:56] ActionParsnip: i don't run it that way ;p [01:57] * faileas insists on 2-3 accounts (admin for maintainance, user, one account for VMs on vmware server running boxen) [01:57] faileas: true but standard idiots do and then they moan the get system issues [02:00] ActionParsnip: ;) ... and there's a reason why we have a !root factoid here ;p [02:01] indeed [02:01] few windows kids learn [02:02] then jump into ubuntu and enable root and login to it to browse the web etc === alipio is now known as squidy [02:17] !gtk [02:17] GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI [02:23] Woot, Lost season 5 is on =] === TwoEqualsTen is now known as Hikeractive [02:46] hello guys good nite all of you, can somebody help me pls [02:49] i just install kubuntu 8.04.1 so i am so new in here and i cant find mozilla, and also i was looking on google and all they said konsole, sudo aptitude(apt-get) install frefox mozilla whatever the rest might be but it just wont work [02:49] so how can i install mozilla on kubuntu help plss??? [02:49] !firefox [02:49] firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins [02:49] i cant [02:49] its right there in the package manager tools.. a few clicks and it isntalls... [02:50] firefox - meta package for the popular mozilla web browser [02:51] sudo apt-get install firefox [02:51] that dont work [02:51] then why dont you tell us some more info.. it works for most everyone else.... [02:51] it say that it couldnt find any package with that name [02:52] update the package manager listing, upgrade, and try again [02:52] sudo apt-get update [02:52] sudo apt-get upgrade [02:52] sudo apt-get install firefox [02:52] !info firefox [02:52] firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1 (intrepid), package size 67 kB, installed size 124 kB [02:52] its in the 'main' repo - so that shouldent be a problem [02:54] DR. Willis if i do the second comman (sudo apt-get upgrade) it means it will upgrade the systm to the newest kubuntu intrepid? [02:55] it will upgrade to the latest stuff yes.. if you are using intrepid [02:55] no [02:55] if you are not using intrepid.. then it wull upgrade whatever release you are using [02:55] see this is my problem for somereason i do have the latest kubuntu but it wont start [02:56] that is why i decided to install the previous one [02:56] Most likely some driver issue [02:56] If you are using the older one.. upgrade will NOT force you to upgrade to intrepid [02:57] i mean i did install kubuntu intrepid and everything seems just find but then when it reboot after user and password the screen freeze [02:57] sounds like a driver issue to me [02:58] work time for me. bye.. good luck [02:58] hello thanks a lot DR WILLIS after done what you say is installing it [03:07] not strictly a kubuntu question, but there might be a commandline ninja lurking [03:07] basically i have a text file with 100 email adresses, that i need to send the same email to [03:07] and no, its not spam, just a big community [03:07] picked them out of a mysql db [03:08] any command line tool that can take that file as input ? [03:20] hello everyone [03:20] i have just activated two finger scrolling on my T61 [03:20] unfortunately it scrolls back to the last position when removing both fingers at once [03:21] i can only scroll correctly when removing the fingers one after another -- this is pretty annoying [03:21] you have any ideas how to prevent that? === pictureyoshi is now known as oko88 [03:35] My wireless only works occasionally. I have an intel 3945 card. it works fine in windows and a belkin card works every time. any ideas? [04:04] The 3945 are notoriously horrible on linux. You could try ndiswrapper but I doubt it would help much [04:05] i've noticed the terrifying amount of forum posts on it. i've pretty much come to the conclusion that it just won't work reliably [04:06] so I reinstalled kubuntu, actually only a temporary install to download a new livecd etc, and my nvidia 6600 is stuck at 640 resolution after running envyng (and 800 was the highest it could go before) [04:06] PyleDriver: If you already have a backup adapter I'd just disable it or so [04:06] it sees my GPU and the drive and wont go above 640 resolution [04:07] on 8.4 right now [04:10] is it possible to install Kubuntu through Wubi in more than 30 itty bitty GBs? [04:12] genii: the belkin card is an external one that i can plug in if the 3945 isn't working === Danu is now known as qnah [04:17] I am currently using a 32bit processor. I plan on getting a 64. I see kubuntu supports it at the downloads. what about it being multicore? don't I need something else for this? [04:19] vbgunz: no, current kernels support multi-core processors [04:21] p_quarles: so I get the 64bit download, install, and the latest kernel automatically picks up on all cores? [04:21] vbgunz: yep, been that way for awhile now [04:22] sweet. damn, I love it [04:23] No more separate smp kernel [04:28] hello, im trying to install a game from a cd (UT 2004) and its saying i have no write perms to /usr/local/games, and this is with running the install script with sudo === ubuntu is now known as setuid_w00t [04:33] gartral: sudo -i then run it. then: exit [04:34] genii: You'll need to cd to the dir it's in, sudo -i puts you in the root users home dir [04:34] gartral: You'll need to cd to the dir it's in, sudo -i puts you in the root users home dir [04:34] Bah. bad tab-complete .... [04:35] well, i cant do that, because the way the script runs, it locks the tray, and wont eject the disk (and when theres 5 cds too go throgh, you kind of need to eject) [04:39] er, at least i cant run the script from the cd, or it will do that [04:41] looking for information regarding installation of amarok new version pls help === trigger is now known as vladamir === vladamir is now known as valtieri [04:42] ok, if the script is on my desktop the cd path would be /home/[name]/desktop , right? === valtieri is now known as Corleone === Corleone is now known as nikalaos [04:43] so guys.. i did something pretty stupid >.<. [04:43] changed my home folder [04:43] without changing the user name [04:43] so i couldn't log in at all [04:44] i created a new user and deleted the old one [04:44] now i can't seem to get sudo priviliges.. [04:44] when i press ctrl tab and ctrl f4 in firefox it doesnt do anything [04:44] how can i change this behavior [04:45] can anyone assist in telling me how to get amarok 2.0.1.1 via sudo command [04:45] blocky: whats ctrl+F4 supposed too do, as far as i see, it doesnt do squat in any web browser [04:46] coses current tab [04:46] closes rather [04:46] does so in windows on most browsers [04:47] not for me >.> [04:48] are you thinking _shift_+F4? [04:49] ohh wait, nvm, im rambling like a fool [04:49] * gartral wears a dunce cap and halds a "disregard" sign [04:50] * nikalaos sighs [04:50] ok, if the script is on my desktop the cd path would be /home/[name]/desktop , right? [04:51] crap, I hate my luck >.< [04:51] or more properly the command would be cd /home/]name]/desktop to get to the dir, right? [04:53] if i make a change to the iptables do i have to restart networking? [04:54] hey guys how do i add a user to "sudoers" [04:54] How can I tell which swap partition I am using? [04:54] more specifically when i deleted the only account in the "sudoers" group to begin ith 0.o [04:56] nikalaos: easiest thing i can think of is to reinstall... but there may be another way [04:56] damn... that sucks [04:56] guess third time really is the charm >.< [04:57] nevemind [04:57] lol... this is why you should take regular backups [04:57] lol backups wouldn't have helped me too much [04:57] i just started like two days ago. [04:58] first i burned a bad cd so my install didn't work properly [04:58] then i mistyped a username and messed up trying to fix it so this is my third lol [04:58] I got a new keyboard. The vloume buttons works but they play/pause does not work with VLC, any ideas? I'm messing with the 'Hotkeys settings' but nothing seems to be working. [04:58] nikalaos: it common pratice to do a _complete_ image backup of your drives after your enviroment is up... at least, is for me, it saved me from similar [04:59] ah [05:00] well anyway [05:00] thanks for your help again guys [05:00] its nice to be out of the windows enviroment finally lol [05:02] and its _still_ saying i dont have write perms to /usr/local/games [05:03] gartral: what are you trying to do sorry? [05:04] install unreal tourny 2004 [05:04] from the CDs [05:04] what's the command that you're using? [05:04] to install it [05:05] cd /home/[name]/desktop && sudo install.sh (using "[name]" so i dont give my username away here >.>) [05:08] and yes, the script is smart enough too look fer the cdrom, and run from anywhere, but theres no reason i cant write too the games dir once sudo 'd [05:08] gartral: strange [05:09] very... and im worried... [05:09] gartral: you could change the permissions of /usr/local/games [05:09] is there a way too get adept too do it? [05:09] gartral: but I have no idea why it's not working [05:09] i did, A+X [05:10] is there a way to get adept to do it? [05:10] or add/remove [05:15] does anyone know anything about oasis media player? if so, how can i put music to it and other thing's that i would like in linux??? === akii is now known as skii [05:17] does anyone know anything about oasis media player? if so, how can i put music to it and other thing's that i would like in linux??? [05:17] i know nothing [05:17] skii: please dont double post [05:18] how else am i gonna get someone to answer me than [05:18] lol [05:18] ^_^ [05:18] lol [05:18] skii: stop flooding, please [05:18] can't u take a joke [05:18] i guess not!!! [05:19] this is a dev/help channel, please take this too kubuntu-community [05:19] i guess someone has there panties in a twiest [05:19] i'm in kubuntu channel [05:20] an i would like some help with that i'm ask'n for so do NOT be a dick or u will find one very ticked off person!!! [05:20] yes, this is kubuntu, i directed you to kubuntu-community, theres a BIG differebce [05:21] like i care i don't wanna talk to u any more so go away [05:21] continue this, and youll find a bunche of ticked people, so... [05:21] if u do NOT wanna help me out then leave me alone!!! [05:23] first off, as far as "help" goes, you asked if we knew of stuff *you* would like, that is a matter of personal opinion, and not something we would know, second, the oasis media play is buggy, and still in early stages of development last i knew, i recomend Amarok, which is already on your system if your running any recent kubuntu [05:24] what u r like 5 yr's old? stop being a dick and if u r gonna help me out then do so but if u r NOT then leave me alone cuz i really do not wanna punish a 5 yr for being bad!!! [05:25] ok i have a .tar.gz for openoffice. how/where do i extract it? [05:27] now when i say that i have a oasis media play i do mean it's a MEDIA PLAYER aka MP3 PLAYER [05:27] how can ppl be so dumb these day's [05:27] !!! [05:27] * gartral looks around, "as far as I see, your the 5 year old, especially by your in-unique sense of grammar" [05:28] why don't u get down on ur kneess and open wide cuz that's all ur be do'n tonight!!! [05:28] NOW DO U WANNA STOP OR GO ON WITH THIS!!!!!!! [05:29] ok, well its not my fault that theres both a DAP and software called "oasis media player" and second, to load music too it from kubuntu, the easiest way would be through Amarok, especially if the device is MTP based [05:31] it is but everytime i try to put music to it my computer alway's restart's by it's self and i wanna know how to stop that from keep happening!!! [05:31] I moved Kununtu on to a new hard drive. On my old hard drive, I was dual-booting windows and kubuntu. I would now like to be able to boot Windows (which still exists on the old hard drive) from grub. [05:31] Why would it have stopped working? I updated the menu.lst to point at the right partition for windows [05:32] windows might be trting the wrong hard drive [05:32] Is the fact that grub is in the MBR on the old hard drive screwing things up? [05:33] the device _probably_ needs a windows based transfer client then, and is totally incompatible with linux [05:33] jammen33: That is quite likely [05:33] if the new drive is set to be the master drive windows migth be use to be on that and there for can not load [05:33] it does the same when i go to window's [05:34] so i am sol no matter wat i do and i just got the damn thing too [05:34] how do I install a program from a .tar.gz file? [05:34] skii: then the device is faulty, ide send it too the manufacture for a replacment [05:34] PyleDriver: is it source or bin? [05:34] hmm. I have seen some posts about using the repair functionality of the windows XP CD. Maybe I'll try that. I'm a bit nervous about it blowing away all of my linux data though [05:35] PyleDriver: untar it, read the readme [05:35] i just got it today cuz my other didn't work ither and that was a creative zen v plus [05:35] setuid_w00t: it will change the mbr [05:35] skii: try every USB port? [05:35] sometimes a faulty port can cause wierd things [05:36] jammen33: bin faileas:thanks [05:36] jammen33: yes, but hopefully only on the disk I want it to [05:36] setuid_w00t: it will change it on the primary harddrive im farly sure [05:37] jammen33: I think I'll unplug that one then :) [05:37] setuid_w00t: what i would do is set the windows drive to primary and have grub set to boot linux off the other [05:38] so windows will be happy [05:38] ok i'll try every usb port but what if that doesn't work then what??? [05:38] jammen33: That's another option... [05:39] setuid_w00t: i think that might be the easist [05:39] then its a bad device, or see if it has an MSC mode in its firmware [05:39] jammen33: thanks for the ideas [05:39] setuid_w00t: np [05:56] is there a logbot still? === Zag is now known as Borg^Zap [05:57] !pulseaudio [05:57] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [05:58] !firefox [05:58] firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins [05:58] !lde [05:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about lde [05:58] !kde [05:58] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4 === uten_ is now known as uten [06:06] !kde4 [06:06] kde4 is KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 | 4.2 Beta 2 packages http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2 | Support in #kubuntu [06:07] !kopete [06:07] Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin [06:07] Hey guys, I'm trying to install Kubuntu and I ran into a bit of trouble. [06:08] Anyone here? [06:08] whats teh prblem [06:08] I'm getting the "No root file system" error [06:09] It's my first linux installation, ever, on a laptop that already has Vista. [06:09] too set a system dir a writable its chmod A+X right? [06:09] TheElevated: are you wanting to keep vista? [06:09] Preferably, yes. [06:10] I have the laptop with me, so I can do anything on it in real-time, so to speak. [06:10] TheElevated: are you using the manual or guided partitioning? [06:10] Guided [06:10] Manual* [06:10] Guided sees my entire drive as a single partition, while it came with two (visible) and one I just found out about when I clicked on manual. [06:11] have you created a parttion you want to install kubuntu on? [06:11] I have a partition with sufficient space and no other OSes installed there. [06:11] But it was already present when I bought the laptop. [06:12] ok so click on it and click edit [06:12] And then? [06:12] oyou will also need a swap partition [06:12] gartral: chmod a+x - it's case sensitive [06:12] I'm guessing that's the third partition that I just discovered. [06:12] quite posibly [06:13] under edit [06:13] hold on [06:14] Okay, I'm there. For "new partition size in megabytes," I entered its previous size, use as "ntfs", don't format and mount point, my options are /dos and /windows [06:15] is that your windows partition? [06:15] No, that's the non-OS partition. [06:15] The one I intend to install it in. [06:16] ok select use as Ext3 [06:16] and mount point as '/' [06:16] What effect will that have on the data in that partition? [06:16] it will erease it [06:16] Well, that would seem like an issue. [06:16] Is there any way I could avoid that? [06:17] if you boot back into window and run tthe cd [06:18] you will be given an option to us ewubi [06:18] wubo* [06:18] ... [06:18] wubo? [06:18] wubi* [06:18] sudo? [06:18] wubi? [06:18] Regardless of how it's spelled, what is it? [06:18] it will let you install kubuntu inside windows [06:19] It claims that'll result in slower performance. [06:19] Does Intrepid support reading and writing of ext4 filesystems? [06:19] !ext4 [06:19] Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 [06:19] idk [06:19] setuid: jaunty does [06:19] I noticed that mkfs.ext4 is available [06:19] that's why I asked [06:20] jammen33: I got windows to boot by having grub fake that windows was the first drive [06:21] is there any way to set inode size during install or to change the inode size of a current install for an ext3 partition? [06:21] setuid_w00t: thats good [06:21] jammen33, if I use Ext3, format the partition, will Windows then be able to read whatever else I put there? [06:21] no and yes [06:22] by default it wont [06:22] but you can get drivers [06:22] Is there some advantage of using Ext3 over NTFS? [06:23] TheElevated: most of the ext3 drivers for windows won't work in intrepid [06:23] I have no idea what intrepid is. [06:24] faileas: i have one that works [06:24] TheElevated: the current release version of ubuntu [06:24] jammen33: which one? [06:24] http://www.fs-driver.org/ [06:24] the fsdriver one is broked for me [06:24] its ext2 [06:24] it asks me if i want to reformat. according to the forums its a result of the inode size that newer linux distros use [06:25] ok [06:25] Well, NTFS seems like less headache and more compatability. [06:25] In case anyone was curious, Intrepid can create, but not mount ext4 [06:25] thats ood [06:25] TheElevated: in my opinion, go for NTFS if you'll use windows more, and ext3 if you use linx more [06:25] TheElevated: NTFS is really slow [06:25] *linux [06:25] TheElevated: in linux [06:26] JohnFlux: actually ntfs3g is quite fast [06:26] faileas: hmm, I saw some benchmarks of it compared to ext3 [06:26] faileas, yea, adding 3G to anything makes it faster, ;) [06:26] about twice as slow [06:26]