[10:07] <primes2h> kwwii: Hi, I would like to ask you something about human-icon-theme, please :-)
[10:07] <kwwii> primes2h: sure, shoot
[10:08] <kwwii> I was thinking about the translation issues...to be honest my specialty is artwork and such, not internationalization
[10:08] <kwwii> there might be someone who could help you much more/quicker than I can
[10:09] <primes2h> When I build human-icon-theme (e.g. ./autogen.sh and make) it doesn't update automatically po files.
[10:09] <primes2h> I need to do it manually going to po/ directory giving make update-po. Is it normaò?
[10:09] <primes2h> normal?
[10:09] <kwwii> erm, exactly that kind of stuff is what I really don't understand
[10:09] <primes2h> ah, ok :-)
[10:10] <primes2h> who is a specialist of this ?
[10:10] <primes2h> ;-)
[10:10] <kwwii> someone in ubuntu-devel could help more (seb128 would be a good start)
[10:10] <kwwii> #ubuntu-devel
[10:10] <primes2h> ok, thanks. about icons I would like to ask you somrthing..
[10:10] <primes2h> different
[10:10] <kwwii> sure
[10:11] <primes2h> There is an emblems that in someway is broken.
[10:12] <kwwii> I can probably help with that :-) what is the exact problem?
[10:12] <primes2h> Hold on, I'll tell you the name...
[10:14] <primes2h> kwwii: stockmail-priority-high
[10:15] <primes2h> when you are dragging it no icon appears....
[10:16] <primes2h> it has the same icon as important emblems icon.
[10:16] <kwwii> let me look into it, one second
[10:16] <primes2h> the strange things is that it's not mentioned in scalable/emblems/
[10:17] <primes2h> it's not present in it.
[10:17] <primes2h> and there is an underline on the "m"
[10:18] <kwwii> my guess is that it is not included in the makefile and is therefor not installed when building the package
[10:19] <kwwii> sorry, I am doing three things at once, give me a minute
[10:19] <primes2h> no problem , I'll wait :-)
[10:21] <kwwii> hrm, this is not in the human theme
[10:21] <kwwii> maybe it is just a symbolic link, one second
[10:22] <kwwii> nope
[10:22] <kwwii> I am guessing that it is not in the human theme
[10:23] <primes2h> but it takes the same icon as important.
[10:23] <primes2h> "important"
[10:23] <primes2h> did you see?
[10:24] <primes2h> I faced it because using my patch, you get two identical  "important" emblems
[10:24] <primes2h> dupe
[10:25] <kwwii> the orange icon with an exclamation point?
[10:25] <primes2h> with "important" instead of "stockmail-priority-high in the text...
[10:26] <primes2h> yes.
[10:26] <kwwii> ahhh, now I see it in the interface
[10:27] <primes2h> As I was telling you, using my patch you get two exclamation point icons with "Important" in the text
[10:28] <kwwii> wow
[10:28] <kwwii> freakky
[10:28] <primes2h> Looking at the original version, I saw the issue...
[10:28] <kwwii> when I click on it, it changes to another icon I made for jockey which does *not* belong there
[10:29] <primes2h> yep
[10:29] <kwwii> this seems to be an issue for the interface and not the icons
[10:29] <kwwii> that is really wierd
[10:29] <kwwii> thanks for bringing this up
[10:29] <kwwii> can you create a bug and assign myself (kwwii) and seb128 please?
[10:30] <primes2h> ok, but we need to coordinate all to bring internationalization patch too.
[10:31] <kwwii> right
[10:31] <kwwii> you can file a bug for that as well
[10:31] <kwwii> :-)
[10:31] <kwwii> bugs are the way to push us canonical employees to get what you want :p
[10:31] <primes2h> it's already reported bug #172353
[10:31] <kwwii> oh right
[10:31] <kwwii> I forgot
[10:31] <primes2h> A last thing.
[10:32] <primes2h> Did you see a jockey icon when you push it?
[10:32] <primes2h> I see a sort of blank sheet
[10:33] <primes2h> of paper
[10:36] <kwwii> looks normal here
[10:36] <kwwii> I am guessing you changed the size and that icon does not exist at that size
[10:37] <kwwii> teh jockey icon does not belong there to begin with though :-)
[10:39] <primes2h> In fact when I click on jockey icons it appears the same sheet of paper too...
[10:40] <kwwii> very strange
[10:41] <kwwii> seems like some wierd name space error or such
[10:41] <kwwii> or perhaps just a mistake in the interface
[10:41] <kwwii> not sure
[10:44] <primes2h> There is another strange thing. There are some icons (Download, default etc.. ) that are not in scalable/emblems/directory but they are translated. It seems that they fallback from gnome-icon-theme (which has internationalization)
[10:44] <primes2h> But they are not broken..
[10:44] <primes2h> if you click on them the icon is correct.
[10:56] <kwwii> well, do they exist as pixmaps in the different dirs?
[10:57] <kwwii> there are quite a few human icons that we do not have scalable versions of
[10:59] <primes2h> oh, yes, they are.
[10:59] <primes2h> That's ok.
[11:00] <kwwii> dealing with icon themes can get quite tricky
[11:00] <primes2h> :-)
[11:02] <primes2h> I still don't understand why they fallback to gome-icon internationalization but it doesn't happen with the scalable ones.
[11:02] <primes2h> at least those with the same name.
[11:03] <kwwii> I don't understand that either
[11:03] <kwwii> internationalization is big and scary :p I know pretty much nothing about how it all works
[11:04] <kwwii> ouch, I get the feeling that seb128 is on vacation
[11:05] <kwwii> if you cannot find him in the #ubuntu-devel channel ask pitti
[11:06] <primes2h> ok, thanks. About the new bug, do i have to add seb128 or pitti instead?
[11:07] <kwwii> seb128 would be best as he works on the gnome desktop
[11:07] <kwwii> but pitti is a good fallback as he is seb's boss :)
[11:07] <kwwii> well, not boss, but technical lead
[11:07] <kwwii> so he can figure out who to push this on
[11:17] <primes2h> so , due to seb128 vacation, I'll put pitti and you on the new bug.. :-)
[11:18] <primes2h> or maybe both... ;-)
[11:18] <primes2h> pitti and seb128
[11:31] <kwwii> cool
[11:39] <primes2h> kwwii: I opened this bug #319991. Have a look and feel free to add any other special comment...
[11:39] <kwwii> primes2h: excellent, thanks
[11:40] <primes2h> kwwii: Thank you too!
[11:41] <kwwii> primes2h: it's really great that someone is interested in this stuff, I would never have noticed - I don't use emblems :p
[13:00] <primes2h> kwwii: I faced this because I'm a member of Italian Ubuntu Translator team, and It's bad to have some part of Ubuntu untranslated, like emblems :P
[13:01] <kwwii> primes2h: cool...in the meantime I have mentioned this to pitti so he has a heads up on what is coming
[13:03] <primes2h> kwwii: That's nice! Now I'm going to ask him about po regeneration issue..
[13:05] <kwwii> good idea, have fun!
[13:06] <primes2h> Thank you indeed for your help. It's nice to find collaborative people like you...
[13:07] <kwwii> :) I hope that there are many others just like me - or ubuntu won't keep being what it is today!
[13:07] <primes2h> I'm surprised once more about this Ubuntu spirit ;-)
[13:09] <primes2h> Oh, sure... a lot :-)
[13:17] <kwwii> mpt: wanna see a really wierd bug? right click on a folder and open the emblems tab, then select the stockmail-priority-high emblem
[13:17] <kwwii> oops
[13:17] <kwwii> wrong channel
[13:17]  * _MMA_ waves
[13:20] <kwwii> hey man
[13:20]  * kwwii gets lunch
[13:23] <primes2h> kwwii: I tried it but it seems normal...
[21:24] <tretle_> cimi?
[21:28] <tretle_> doesn anyone know if its possible to have two seperate colors for the input box's and the treeviews etc?
[21:31] <Cimi> ?
[21:33] <tretle_> yeah, I was going to ask you about gtk colors and the dialog box's, was thinking of leaving it on your site under feature requests but decided it would be much faster to just ask you on irc
[21:33] <Flaw> Hi, is anyone here 'good' with gradients?
[21:34] <tretle_> so do you know of any way of having seperate colors for treeviews and dialog box's? I would like the treeviews etc to use a dark color and bright text but I would like the dialog box's to use white bg color on black text to keep visual consistency with websites
[21:35] <tretle_> right now from the looks of it the treeviews and dialog box's share the same pallet
[21:36] <Flaw> http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9153/bodybgti3.jpg
[21:36] <Flaw> I need that but in green, would anyone be able to do that?
[21:45] <Cimi> tretle_, you just need to change base and text for gtkentry
[21:45] <tretle_> cool
[21:46] <SealV> Flaw you could just open it in Gimp and colorize it
[21:49] <Flaw> SealV: I don't have much experience with graphics, I usually only do coding on websites.
[21:50] <SealV> gimme a sec, let me try my luck. could you point to a green that you like/want?
[21:51] <Flaw> It just needs to be green (royal green would be a good choice) but in a gradient, light to dark, starting nearly white.
[21:51] <Flaw> Like the blue one.
[21:52] <Flaw> I've tried using colorize but I get blocks of colour, not a gradient
[21:56] <SealV> making an svg
[22:02] <SealV> http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9914/g3704ep6.png
[22:02] <SealV> colors are changable very easily now that its an svg
[22:07] <Flaw> SealV: what's the white on the side?
[22:08] <Flaw> this image is being repeated vertically, so it doesn't look too good
[22:10] <SealV> is the white part not supposed to be there? I just imported the png and worked from there, but no worries.
[22:10] <SealV> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/651/rect2920py4.png
[22:11] <Flaw> SealV: sorry, i confused you.
[22:11] <SealV> no worries :)
[22:11] <Flaw> the white bit at the top is sup post to be there, just not the white bit on either side
[22:12] <SealV> no whit bit to the sides.. let me check
[22:12] <Flaw> on the first one you posted there was.
[22:12] <SealV> bloody strokes
[22:12] <Flaw> sorry!
[22:12] <SealV> hold on I see the prob
[22:13] <SealV> its the default setting of inkscape
[22:13] <Flaw> the white bit at the top is suppose to be there, just not the bit on either sides
[22:23] <SealV> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7091/g3750qf7.png
[22:23] <SealV> try that
[22:26] <Flaw> thanks! that looks great.