# /srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/01/23/#kubuntu.txt

fliegenderfrosch fliegenderfrosch fliegenderfrosch HenryHeron: there are different versions of kde at the moment 00:00 HenryHeron: kde 3.5 is the most stable but oldest, kde 4.1 is the kubuntu intrepid default, kde 4.2 is only released in a few days, but the RC is already very usable 00:01 === andre is now known as Guest40722 HenryHeron: depending on which version you choose, the packages/sources are different 00:01 fliegenderfrosch  It will work w/ 8.10? 00:01 HenryHeron: yes, i’m using 8.10 with kde 4.2 release candidate 00:02 and it works fine 00:02 fliegenderfrosch so I can use either synaptic package manager or apt-get (terminal) what do I look for (for 4.2)? 00:03 HenryHeron: in general, you have to choose between the 3.5 and the 4.x series. 3.5 is more mature, but 4.x is where all the new development happens and it is already very usable 00:03 kDE 4.2 RC 1: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1 00:03 yes, but for the 4.2 RC you have to add new sources 00:03 Dr_willis: thx, that’s what i was about to post :) 00:04 fliegenderfrosch Do I hear a nother alternative, i.e., build from source? 00:04 HenryHeron: you could build it from source as well, but the packages are definitely the most comfortable solution 00:05 HenryHeron: plus you will probably get an upgrade to 4.2 final automatically 00:05 fliegenderfrosch I agree... sight unseen. The instructions would be on the link Dr_willis mentioned? 00:06 HenryHeron: but remember that 4.2 isn’t officially supported by the kubuntu team 00:06 HenryHeron: exactly 00:06 HenryHeron: still I find 4.2 to be more usable than the official 4.1 packages 00:07 fliegenderfrosch Apparently ubuntu intrepid isn 00:07 fliegenderfrosch either... I'm having a hard time getting any help. 00:07 HenryHeron: you mean the gnome version? I’m actually quite happy with it (on my laptop), but that’s probably different for everyone 00:08 fliegenderfrosch Yes, exactly. 00:09 HenryHeron: if your problems are related to the kernel or drivers, changing from gnome to kde won’t help however 00:10 fliegenderfrosch It may be something I did, as I built a number of rather complex programs... then the desktop went fluey... (high tech term)... 00:10 * Dr_willis is confused... 00:11 but im also holding the grandson.. so im distracted.. :P 00:11 fliegenderfrosch Ok, I'll go check out the recommended web site now, thanks all! 00:11 HenryHeron: np 00:13 fliegenderfrosch One last note as I saw your last message... getting the tools/utilities to understand what is going wrong seems a real problem in Linux? No? What to do? 00:13 HenryHeron: which tools/utilities do you mean? 00:14 fliegenderfrosch I'm thinking of trying to be able to understand how to tell if the problem/s are related as you suggest, kernel or driver. 00:15 Am I the only one here? 00:24 yes 00:25 wow 00:25 da: do you feel lonely now? 00:25 no, I got my wife in the other room watching TV. 00:26 oh ! you are the one then 00:26 I don/t know. 00:27 is anyone having a problem where clicking a link in a Qt program (qtconfig-qt4) doesn't open it? 00:29 === gnuton is now known as Gnut[OFF] hagabaka , did you try it in the Konsole ? 00:32 yeah, i get an output like http://pastebin.com/f202e88dc 00:33 none of the URLs in the app respond 00:33 for you too? 00:34 qtconfig-qt4 in the terminal opens Qt but the urls listed and highlighted don't open 00:35 do you get that output too? 00:35 yes Qt configuration GUI opened 00:37 I'm having two problems with the Network manager:1. I can't have more than one set to autoconnect, and 2. It won't autoconnect to a network with SSID broadcast off. (This is in 8.10, and neither of these were problems in 8.04) 00:38 Anyone have any clue here, or should I ask on the forums 00:38 hagabaka , I'm not familiar with it , so i didn't fool with it 00:39 did you try the links in "About Qt" dialog? 00:39 or the "phonon" tab? 00:40 my kde appears to not be monitoring keyboard input to keep the screensaver turned off.  that is, when i do not use the mouse for N minutes the screensaver comes on even as I am in the middle of typing.  how do i fix that? 00:40 hagabaka , yes none respond 00:41 ok, thanks 00:42 sparr , system settings/country region and language/keyboard layout/enable keyboard layout/ keyboard model ..choose your KB from thelist if it's there 00:44 === maite is now known as maitetxu56 BlueEagle: its just a normal 104 key keyboard, already selected 00:49 === Axis- is now known as AxisAFK === quassel59 is now known as astromme heya 01:02 hi ppl, can anyone here tell me how to change the firewall settings so that Konvresation can use ident ? 01:03 i just managed to install latex-suite (for vi) twice, now i get the following error "command Error detected while processing /var/lib/vim/addons/plugin/remoteOpen.vim: line 37:E174: Command already exists: add ! to replace it 01:03 how can I remove the error without losing all my latexsuite settings? 01:03 kaddi,  you installed that how exactly? 01:09 \join guitar 01:10 \join 01:10 try a /join 01:10 === Raylz1 is now known as Raylz via aptitude... 01:12 i was scrolling through the installed/not installed packages and latex-suite had a "c" in front of it, instead of the expected "i". 01:12 so, because I was to lazy to check what I was doing, I selected it for installation 01:13 only to realise afterwards that I actually already  installed it way back in october 01:13 (this was totally my bad, I know... but it would be nice if you helped me clean up the mess anyways ;) ) 01:14 what probably happened, is that I installed latex-suite via the vim-addonmanager in october and which is why aptitude didn't recognize it as an isntalled package 01:17 === Taladan_ is now known as Taladan ahh... so vim-addonmanager confused  the apt-get stuff eh 01:18 * Dr_willis has no idea what the vim-addonmanager does. :) 01:18 cant recall ever ysing that part of vim. 01:18 it installs addons ;) 01:19 no, I was having trouble with the latex-suite 01:19 there's a bug where the functions don't get mapped correctly, when installing latexsuite via aptitude 01:19 installing it with the addonmanager somehow solves the problem 01:19 could remove the thing both ways.. and then reinstall it the way you want I guess. 01:20 ive not used LaTeX since college. :) 01:20 hehe, im still in college, so ill have to use it for a while ;) 01:20 the problem ist, that I havent really touched this pc in quite a while, so Im not sure where all the configurations are saved 01:21 and I would be really annoyed if i lost the settings... which is why i dont really want to uninstall latexsuite 01:22 If they are system settings instaleld by a package. and not customized by you.. then reinstalling them via the package manager or whatever.. should restore them, 01:22 Its only customized things that id be worrying about 01:22 no, they are customized by me 01:22 latexsuite translates shortcuts into valid latex-code... something like turinung #/ into \frac{<++>} {<++>}<++> 01:23 and I did set a lot of such shortcuts 01:24 :( 01:24 but maybe this is the price i'll have to pay for being stupid :( 01:25 hello 01:27 anybody have kubuntu 8.10 running on a IBM T41 laptop? 01:28 I'm having trouble connecting to wireless access point.. any ideas? 01:28 kaddi,  yea the package manager i think will notice customized files and not overwrite them 01:29 but he will delete them, if i uninstall the package? 01:30 I dont think so.. but not sure.. 01:30 I wouldent think it would..  since it noticed the changed and dident install over them. 01:30 kubuntu-user: I’ve got ubuntu 8.10 on it (and sometimes use the kde desktop as well), but I don’t have problems with wireless 01:31 so i just need to have faith and uninstall the package? :D 01:32 fliegenderfrosch-I installed it fresh few days ago and it was working fine until last night.. 01:33 do you know how to see the log? 01:33 from knetworkmanager I can see the wireless networks available.. 01:33 but I can't seem to connect to a simple unsecured network.. 01:33 kaddi,  well if the sytem still works now.. you may want to jkust leave it alone..  or are you saying the vi-latex thing no longer works? 01:34 no its working, it's just throwing a lot of messages and i have to confirm 2 error messages before i can actually open vi 01:35 which, in the long term, is rather annoying 01:35 Trying to install Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10.  I have CDs for both.  Either way, it gets to Step 3 of 6, where I pick a keyboard.  Then it does Scanning for Disks and Checking Filesystems.  Then it juststops doing anything.  The program responds to clicks.  I can Cancel it.  But no install and no CD or HDD access.  Any ideas? 01:36 kaddi,  ya could look at  /var/lib/vim/addons/plugin/remoteOpen.vim: line 37:E174: Command already exists: add ! to replace it 01:37 and see whats on like 37 :) 01:37 sounds like its  including somthing thats allready been included 01:37 i'll just go for it.. I made a backup of .vim and hope that all the important files wil be in there :) 01:37 BentFrank: I've had this issue before. Just leave the system un-interrupted. Eventually it will bring up 4-6. Probably it is takign longer time to figure out file system. 01:37 it took me around 15-20 mins to go from 3-6 to 4-6 dialog... 01:38 System is Athlon 1800, 500 MB RAM, one 20GB HDD.  Motherboard is M7VIW. 01:38 nothing i'd understand, but maybe you can make something out of it: 01:38 37 com -nargs=1 RemoteOpen :call RemoteOpen('') 01:39 Kubuntu-user:  How long is eventually?  It's been 30 minutes. 01:39 what does the E174 mean? 01:39 I think I waited around same time.. 01:40 Maybe the HDD is going.  There is an old Windows 3000 system on it now and it was having troubles toward the end. 01:40 er 2000 01:40 may be you can leave it some more time .. 01:40 I think I'll try swappign the drive and see.  If that doesnt work i'll let the install run overnight. 01:41 Thanks, kubuntu-user 01:42 no worries. 01:42 does anybody know how to see knetworkmanager logs? I'm trying to see why my T41 is not connecting to WAP.. 01:43 wireless can be such a pain. :( 01:45 tell me about it.. 01:45 either it works for me.. or its totally  unuseable. :) but now a days on my 3 wireelss machines.. it all works. 01:45 kubuntu-user: run it from the terminal 01:47 I tried it.. it prints a whole bunch of messages.. 01:48 that's what you're after no? ;) 01:48 uninstalling worked.. :) everything seems to be as it used to be and my settings are still there \o 01:49 thanks :) 01:49 but it doesn't print anything destriptive.. 01:49 @dr_willis :) 01:49 I'll look more in detail.. 01:49 thanks. I have to leave now.. I'll try loggin in later.. 01:49 kaddi,  isent the pacage manageing system amazing! :) 01:51 !info menu 01:52 menu (source: menu): generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.40ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 424 kB, installed size 1924 kB 01:52 dr_willis : it definitely is. :) never would have thought that it would keep my previous settings 01:52 kaddi,  its gnu-riffic! 01:52 :D 01:52 (wrt kde 4.0) instead of KDEstrophic? 01:53 === jamie is now known as jatos hey i'm trying to install kubuntu on the latest version of parallels, and it installs fine but upon trying to log in, it logs in then returns to the gui login screen...what's goin on here? 01:59 I get a glimpse of the desktop which looks kinda screwed up then it goes back to the login screen 02:02 i'd guess that your x-server is doing a runner.. try typing ctrl-alt-f1 when you get to the login screen and see if you can log in in the command line 02:05 yeah it logs in at the command line 02:05 what happens if you try starting kdm from the commandline? 02:05 how do I do that? 02:05 Qb_Master: /etc/init.d/kdm start 02:06 sudo may be needed 02:06 :) 02:06 "Starting K Display manager: kdm already running" 02:06 /etc/init.d/kdm stop or start, or restart :) 02:07 k that brought me back to the gui login screen, let's see what happens this time 02:08 kaddi, Dr_willis: it seems that his kdm and xserver are starting fine, but kde itself doesn’t 02:08 yeah it goes through the loading process again, I see the desktop which looks screwed up and it goes back to login again 02:09 h/o i'll try to get a screenshot 02:10 http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1160/kubuntuparallelsglitchymi2.jpg 02:12 Qb_Master: I guess there are no old KDE configs which could cause tit to fail.... 02:12 that's what the desktop looks like upon loading, for like 3 seconds before it returns to login 02:12 hmm 02:12 Qb_Master: you could try upgrading to kde 4.2 RC and look if the problem still exists 02:13 hm lemme look into it 02:15 how do I do that? xD 02:15 sorry I'm fairly noobish in linux, I've only dabbled with it 02:15 I expect to use it more now that I have it running in a virtual desktop :) 02:16 it might be a problem with parallels...I might try VMWare next 02:17 Qb_Master: you could also try virtualbox 02:18 k thx I didn't know of that one :) 02:19 is amarok 2 going in official repository? 02:19 === slyuk is now known as SlyZZZ === [mors]l is now known as [mors] k trying virtualbox 02:23 parallels might just be a POS 02:23 :p 02:23 I folks 02:23 **hi 02:23 ey 02:24 will kde4.2 ever make it to intreid repos ? 02:25 **intrepid 02:25 backports i imagine 02:26 unoffical repos. :) 02:26 hum 02:26 I saw the instructions to install it on intrepid, but it required adding the kubuntu-experimental repository... but that repository has other non-kde packages as well, right ? 02:27 i hate that part about ppa repositories 02:27 it won't upgrade anything that doesn't need upgraded for KDE 4.2 to work 02:28 how do you compare koffice against open office ? 02:29 hm interesting, the install process looks different in virtualbox than it did in parallels 02:33 o wait nvm 02:34 lol yay 3rd time trying to install 02:35 foilks, why did canonical choose gnome for their main distro ? 02:36 kubuntu feels like a 2nd class citizen.... :/ 02:36 but I prefer kde by leaps and bounds 02:37 * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go 02:37 someone should make a distro of linux that runs itself in its own virtual desktop software that can be installed and run directly from windows or other OSes 02:38 I always liked the idea of using linux but being able to switch to windows (for gaming and the like) without rebooting :D 02:40 === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] How to find out about system i am runing in termanel 02:46 hm, why does the installer take forever to 'scan the mirror'? 02:53 if it doesn't soon ima have to disable the network so it times out 02:54 ah there it goes 02:55 servers may be slow 03:01 ah virtualbox worked :) 03:03 it's parallel's fault 03:03 hm well now I can't choose a resolution bigger than 800x600 tho 03:08 xD I always have so many problems right off the bat 03:09 -_- 03:12 I am having way too many problems with this 03:30 and I'll deal with them when I'm alert enough to stay awake... 03:33 lol 03:33 bbl 03:33 anybody using RC1? 03:51 i have a portable mac drive but i cant copy files to it cuz it says i dont have permission? 04:01 sparr: Ok. 04:06 sparr: I've got a 105-key keyboard. 04:06 Dolo: well you probably don't have permission :-) 04:08 Dolo: is it brand new? 04:09 I've never seen it so quiet in here.... 04:18 Shhhhhh 04:25 It's the anticipation for 4.2 04:26 hey, i'm reading to understand about skype or something similar, or not !!! because really, what i'd like is something i could "voice chat" using my bluetooth "that i don't use for my cell phone, cause i don't use my cellphone ? any suggestion ? 04:30 qcjn: You want to use your phone to caht? 04:31 I just installed a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) and my conn is at 1mps and I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853942 but the only thing that was on the page was exit0. I tried of series of variations with or without exit0 and restarted my conn and it is still at 1mps. Any ideas? 04:31 DaSkreech: no, i've heard we could use an app, like skype with the bluetooth that we use for the cell phone 04:32 If it's an app I don' see why you need the bluetooth 04:33 DaSkreech: The thing you put in your ear when you're driving a car , for cellphones? 04:34 Oh you want to use it as a microphone 04:34 yes 04:35 so you can walk in the house and speak ! 04:35 Hey. This is only tangently related to Kubuntu, but... how do I get/enable the ipfilter in ktorrent? 04:36 === stephen is now known as Guest7012 !bluetooth 04:36 For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup 04:36 And there is an app I think called blueradar 04:37 ok, thanks, i ll look at that :) 04:37 Sophty: For the firewall? 04:37 I guess you could call it a firewall. 04:37 !iptables 04:38 Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE). 04:38 I just installed a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) and my conn is at 1mps and I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853942 but the only thing that was on the page was exit0. I tried of series of variations with or without exit0 and restarted my conn and it is still at 1mps. Any ideas? 04:38 Is it some hard limit if 1 MBs? 04:39 Like it gets there pretty fast then stops 04:39 no never getsfast 04:40 always at 1mps under conn info 04:40 Have you tested it to see if thats' true 04:41 yeah, it's not a hard 1mps but where abouts 04:44 I don't think iptables is what I'm looking for. 04:44 Unless I'd do something further to adapt iptables to my use, which is then my question. 04:44 yeah no clue why 04:52 can anyone assist with atheros 242x 05:00 I am trying to update my apt list for KDE Nightly neon I have the correct key installed but I still get W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 778978B00F7992B0 05:34 Bsims: you need to do "gpg --export -a 0F7992B0 | sudo apt-key add -" 05:37 thanks stdin I'll give that a try 05:38 hello... does kubuntu support wireless connections better and easier (interface and installation wise) THAN ubuntu ? (both last versions) 05:39 Anyone know if there will be unofficial kde3 packages for jaunty? I am sorry but kde4 gives me hives 05:40 DarkTerror: they both use the same backend (NetworkManager) just different frontends 05:41 Bsims: that would depend on if the person who makes the packages wants to do it 05:42 * Bsims nods fair enough I am using the ones from pierson computing but its been offline for a while 05:42 thx stdout 05:42 I'm trying to upgrade to current a fresh install from an 8.04 beta disc and using adept and when preconfigureing starts it it stays at 0% forever, at configuring kdm, dpkg-preconfigure's child goes zombie 05:43 * Bsims laughs building kde from source sucks 05:43 Souper: scrap the qui once it's updated your sources, and follow the commands for a server update 05:43 does anyone else have trouble with their nvidia card not putting monitors into DPMS power saving mode? 05:44 I come down and my screens are blanked but the backlights are staying on 05:44 and they're fairly new flat panels 05:44 sometimes it does it right, but likely about 65-70% of the time they're just glowing black 05:44 === kalorin__ is now known as kalorin_ that happens 100% of the time with my laptop 05:46 I don't get that 05:47 like why it's so hard to time out monitors 05:47 I woudl think it would just "work" 05:47 Bsims: Don't want to help package KDE3? :) 05:47 * Bsims grins my skills are limited 05:48 * Bsims laughs tried my usual dpkg -r trick and it needs more 05:48 * Bsims grins debating going back to Mother Debian and her wacky son Sid 05:50 Been over five years, I'd miss the polish 05:50 Bsims: Skills are irrelevant :-) Willingness is relevant 05:52 * Bsims grins you will be absorbed into the collective? 05:52 By choice 05:53 DaSkreech: lets put it this way I got started on Debian Potato 05:53 And you would like KDE3 :-) 05:54 DaSkreech: its currently more stable and I configred it to my tastes years ago 05:54 * DaSkreech nods. So would you like to help package it? 05:55 Well I've never built a multi-package deb and can't find any good tutorials on it 05:55 the Debian New Maintainers guide is lacking there 05:55 The #kubuntu-devel room is a good guide :) 05:56 As I said basically you need Willingness and either a CPU that warms up or a net connection 05:56 * Bsims nods I may wander over there... Idealy I'd turn a script loose on it and it craps out a folder of debs 05:57 * DaSkreech nods. Yes sir 05:57 * Bsims grins willing, single core machine but my connection is fast and my storage exceeds a TB 05:57 Great :_ 05:57 :_) 05:57 * Bsims can't beleve how cheap drives are now 05:58 I bought a 1TB drive for less than 150 05:58 Yeah Crazy huh? 05:58 * Bsims grins when I got started my first computer had a .9mhz proccessor I beleve 14k of ram and used audio cassette as main storage 05:59 soon or later, we'll all have SSD 05:59 Sooner or later we'll have Data synthesizing food for us even though he doesn't know waht it tastes like because he wants to be more human 06:00 xanax: that musical card you threw away last week... was the entire global computer power when we designed the atom bomb... your current desktop is probably 80-90% of global computer power less than 30 years ago 06:00 i know.. i know. 06:01 * DaSkreech reads that as "Moar graphix in Gamezzz" 06:01 * Bsims giggles If I could borrow a tardis... I'd bring a modern beastly box running Linux with sources and drop it off at UC Berkley in the 70's 06:02 it will be fun to be there when CPUs won't be able to be miniaturized any more 06:02 and another one would be handed to a hippie named Stallman 06:02 on the east coast 06:02 damn i should have upgraded the release before i upgraded the packages 06:03 I'd walk into a Godzilla movie and replace it with Jurassic Park if I had a tardis 06:03 * Bsims grins nah DaSkreech imagine Stallman or esr with a 2009 current level laptop in the 70's 06:04 Bsims: Richard would probably hurd the computers together 06:04 and sources for the OS and as much history of processor design as could fit 06:04 * Bsims grins and the same given to the BSD folks 06:05 DaSkreech: Heh wine is past 1.0 Duke nukem and HURD will have to follow 06:05 do you think Linux will succeed in growing up to 50% (or more) of OSs use, one day ? 06:06 People don't care about OSes they care about Desktop 06:06 xanax: eventually probably... Lets face it would you ever have considered anything apple shipped an Offical Unix, certified as such by the Open Group 06:06 * stdin points to #kubuntu-offtopic 06:06 they care about simplicity too.. and Linux has a bad image about this point 06:07 Yeah I am there too 06:07 thank you stdin, i didn't even know this channel existed. 06:07 join me there? 06:07 hello any one there help me to how to use ubuntu iam new in ubuntu ? 06:27 what do you want to know exactly umar ? 06:27 I want to know about Player Like vlc and others plus Messengers ? 06:28 well, you can install vlc if you want. And pidgin too 06:28 just launch Adept or Synaptic 06:29 how can u send me link plzzz 06:29 !install 06:30 Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate 06:30 hmm thats not right, what is the wiki page for installing packages 06:30 !im 06:32 Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin 06:32 well, i've set this in my .bashrc 06:42 # My Own Crap 06:42 xset +dpms 06:42 xset dpms 600 06:42 xset s off 06:42 that seems to work 06:42 actually that'd be xset dpms 600 700 900 06:44 <--- agressive with those settings cause I don't like leaving the LCD's on all the time when I'm not around 06:44 it was set to blank earlier which I'm wondering if that might have been what was going on 06:44 needs to be set to off not blank 06:44 anyway 06:45 laters 06:45 way too late 06:45 :-) 06:55 === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === Gnut[OFF] is now known as gnuton hello 07:21 !hi 07:23 Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! 07:23 I am a new user to Kubuntu 07:23 is it possiblie  to run IE7 using WINE on Kubuntu 07:24 === georges is now known as georges_ === georges_ is now known as georges__ georges__: Look for IE4linux 07:25 It's a website 07:25 === georges__ is now known as georges === georges is now known as georges_ any     rrecommended ssite for IE4linux? 07:27 http://www.tatanka.com.br/ 07:28 thanks DaSkreech 07:28 I'll try it out 07:28 Nothing on IE7 ?? 07:29 are there any antivirus solutions for Kubuntu?? 07:31 georges_: for what viruses? 07:31 but yeah there are 07:31 georges_: I think most antivirus software for linux is for linux servers, sharing files to windows machines 07:33 so it's antivirus-for-windows running on linux... 07:33 thaanks guys.  see  ya laaater 07:36 ? 07:40 wow thanx. Now I can play that forex game that runs only on ie 07:45 ...wait, does it run ActiveX? 07:45 Huh? 07:46 === desti_T2 is now known as desti helo here 08:11 i have a problem with my wireless connection 08:11 ecubuntu:state your problem 08:12 i can see my network but i can not connect 08:12 i have mac address filter on my router 08:12 ? 08:13 ecubuntu:wait for a while,somebody will help you 08:14 till then read this 08:15 !wifi 08:15 Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs 08:15 do you have an IP address? 08:15 and this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/RouterIssues 08:15 what do you mean DaSkreech 08:16 hi. how can I launch adept-updater manually ? I have erroneusly removed its icon from my panel 08:33 hi people 08:34 what is the kde equivalent to cheese?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/cheese 08:35 === carlos is now known as Guest69421 how do i have to form the username for connecting to an FTP server in the address bar IF the username contains an @ ? 09:08 okay i found out: need to replace the @ with %40 09:11 * fidji ne joue plus au Go 09:32 === Tidus_ is now known as Tidus Bonjour à tous 09:55 !french 09:56 Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr 09:56 ok, sorry ! 09:56 :) 09:57 hello every one :) 10:26 hello 10:26 hru :) 10:26 not many people here atm apparantly... 10:26 aight 10:27 right:) 10:27 ht's the firest time using IRC 10:27 you get used to it 10:28 Hi all 10:28 ive been using it a while now and i still feel like a noob 10:28 hello 10:28 why ? 10:29 i am on 8.10, how can i enable syntax highliting feature in vim?? 10:29 um using8.10 too but but i can't under stant wt u mean >?< 10:30 maxemo.. haha, theres all types of stuff in irc i dont know 10:30 yes i dunno :) 10:31 i've some small problem 10:32 when i enabel my compiz i found that i've 2 desktop not 4 liek i want 10:33 on kubuntu 10:33 like sorry 10:33 hi, after last ugrade, i cannot run lastfm, this is what i get on konsole 10:35 Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries 10:35 is kbluetooth4 bugged or something? 10:37 There is something wrong with it, yes. 10:39 isnt there any way to send files via bluetooth? 10:40 Aranel yes 10:46 you can try blueman package 10:46 Hey all, If an app window is minimised, does the window get drawn in anticipation of a maximise of is it left undrawn until the maximise 10:46 === caldera is now known as heinrichfoobar === heinrichfoobar is now known as un_taran Hi all. After upgrading to intrepid, the arrow keys on my keyboard as well as insert, delete etc no longer work. If I open up a text login these seem to function okay. any pointers? 11:17 [EGC-i]ThinIce: check keyboard settings in systemsettings 11:18 [EGC-i]ThinIce: if its correct, set it to something else, then back 11:18 ActionParsnip, hrm doesn't seem to be doing any good, I'm trying to use UK layout and currently generic 104-key PC is selected, not sure if thats right, my actual keyboard model isn't listed there but I've never had problems in the past 11:27 [EGC-i]ThinIce: check xorg.conf to see what it says about keyboard 11:37 ActionParsnip, hrm has pc104 and gb in there as well, although looking at an old backup file in the X11 directory it seems to be listed as pc105. Setting that in kde doesn't make any difference but if you think its worth it might be worth setting it in the file and restarting x? 11:41 [EGC-i]ThinIce: could be a fix, give it a go, just make sure you can rollback if you break stuff 11:42 yeah I'll make a copy before editing it 11:43 [EGC-i]ThinIce: good lad, best way 11:45 [EGC-i]ThinIce: very few people do, then moan when they bork their system 11:45 and then come and shout in here I bet ;) 11:46 === george2002 is now known as Guest9956 [EGC-i]ThinIce: then say Ubuntu sucks 11:59 === jp is now known as Guest41546 === sparklingshrew is now known as shinygerbil ActionParsnip, no luck :| weirdly enough though the delete key works on the login screen of kdm, just not once you're logged in 12:04 hmmm 12:05 do the keys generate events in xev? 12:08 yeah they do. was just typing in cat actually with them, in a konsole del comes out as ^@ (I'm not sure of my character codes but that doesn't look right) 12:09 when I run Armagetron on ubantu 8.1 I get garbbled text.  Any ideas why & how to fix? 12:09 [EGC-i]ThinIce: does it type ok in kate etc? 12:11 yeah in the text only login it comes out as something completely different (which I presume is correct). In kate most of the keyboard works okay, but certain things don't such as insert, delete, arrow keys as with the rest of kde 12:12 === robert__ is now known as robertknight ciao 12:20 !list 12:20 Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots 12:20 carmen: you looking for the italian room 12:25 !it | carmen 12:25 carmen: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) 12:25 g'day all 12:28 g'day 12:29 === JackWinter_ is now known as JackWinter hmm, only 4 more days until shiny lovely kde 4.2 12:35 === ulysses__ is now known as ulysses__K === ulysses__K is now known as ulysses__ g'morning 13:01 hi all 13:02 How can I change the icons from kde 4 network manager and the other systray icons? 13:02 === ame is now known as Guest68727 hi. my screensaver only works in a quarter of the screen. plz help 13:15 cant say that i even bother with screensavers any more these days.. other then to blank/black/dim the screen 13:16 yeah isilion_ whats up with the screensaver? 13:18 just blank it 13:18 :) 13:18 well 13:18 sry, your choice of course 13:18 but i want to use that screensaver :S 13:18 xd 13:18 hi 13:19 I personally hate screensavers, they're just using power for nothing. In the old days that meant also loud spinning fans. 13:20 hi I am having some audio problems with my new mobo. I have some "azalia" drivers for linux that I must install but have no idea how to cansomeone shed me some light, thanks 13:20 dmmainou , azaliz drivers , in what form /file extension ? 13:28 err azalia dmmainou , they seem to be for the realtek soundcard , a very popular make 13:31 === alex__ is now known as breadstic hi my mobo is a asus p5n7a-vm 13:38 hey guys, can anyone help me with a problem I'm having... I'm trying to get an app to run on startup as a different user 13:38 I'm following the steps outlined in the zip file but having erroers. 13:38 run at user login? or at boot time? 13:38 at user login... I want to be able to place thh command su -c [program] [user] in a script without being asked to type a password 13:39 Im not even sure su works at all on ubuntu.. 13:40 ye it does :) jut tried it.. 13:40 oh, it does, but obviously i can't just have a script running it because i need to type the password 13:40 and it asks for the password of the user you are switching to. 13:40 yea 13:41 that's how you get root access ....   sudo su - 13:41 You could  use sudo I guess. and some how get around that password.. 13:41 do NOT use 'sudo su -' to get a root shell . :) thats not the proper way to do it 13:41 but I need to type my password in for sudo 13:41 don't i? 13:41 You can set up sudo to allow specifi commands to be ran by anyone  as root 13:41 you could set the script as setuid root, but that is something which has to be considered very carefully - it can be dangerous 13:42 oh, ok, that sounds good 13:42 yea, i've been trying that, but the program need gtk output, and setuid doesn't allow it 13:42 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/ 13:42 for a gui app ran by a different user. you most likely will need to also use the 'xhost + localhost' command to allow the other user access to the desktop 13:43 which service runs for all the keyboard shortcuts?.. 13:43 they stopped working now.. 13:43 eg- ALT+F2 13:43 Hi, i can't login to mmsn with kopete 0.60.82 on kde 1.96, is this normal ? 13:43 and is there a workaround ? 13:44 yep, i use xhost +local: for that 13:44 microsoft likes to change the MSN protocall eveyr so often and break 3rd party IM clients 13:44 good morning 13:44 afternoon :) 13:44 evening 13:44 hi, im newbie to ubuntu. so far so good.  i need a remote desktop server. so i can view client computers 13:45 abdul: krdc 13:45 similar to team viewer 13:45 !krdc | abdul 13:45 Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc 13:45 abdul,  one is built in to kde and gnome. that uses the vnc protocall :) 13:45 !info krdc | abdul 13:45 krdc (source: kdenetwork): Remote Desktop Connection client for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 (intrepid), package size 378 kB, installed size 708 kB 13:45 hey Dr_willis wasup? 13:46 thanks i will try 13:46 which service i habe to start, if my keyboard shortcuts won't work? 13:46 noaXess,  havin some issues with the nvidia drivers  lately.. not sure whats going on..  Its like they are installed.. but not being used.. and compiz dont want to work..and everything is sluggish 13:46 Trying KDE4.2rc1 in intrepid and get many SIGABRT in korganizer after klicking OK to create a new timeblock. Anyone else get this?   #9  0x00007ff82fd25577 in CollectionFetchJob (cut) at /build/buildd/kdepimlibs-4.1.96/akonadi/collectionfetchjob.cpp:72 13:47 Dr_willis: have also nvidia.. latest from repo.. have now kde 4.1.96, someties blinking screen, panel blinking or so.. 13:47 now.. now keyboard shortcut works :(.. some service crash.. but which one? 13:48 I used to have it set to show the nvidia Logo.. and thats not even showing at X restart 13:48 Dr_willis: mine is showing 13:48 grrrr. ALT+TAB won't work..which service i need to restart to get them working instead of relogin to kde? 13:48 I think abdul has a totally different view on what clients and servers are 13:50 what service handle all the keyboard shortcuts? 13:51 aapzak your right i looked at krdc and it's not what i'm looking for 13:51 :) 13:51 abdul: tell us, what do you need? 13:51 krdc is the client 13:51 meaning, that is the application you use to login to a running terminal server 13:51 grrr.. kwin uses 30% cpu.. hm kde 4.2 rc1 is buggy 13:52 by the client downloading a small app. java or what ever. he or she chose a user name and pass then give me the control of the computer so i can remotely fix thier problem. 13:52 yes 13:52 You can set up any vncserver on the remote box and connect to it via any vncclient. :) In theory 13:53 abdul: in that case you will be the client 13:53 like http://teamviewer.com/index.aspx 13:53 of course vnc is not the best thing to use over the wild and nasty internet. :) 13:53 abdul: and your client need to be running the vnc or rdc servers 13:53 but i'm not sure of security. i would like to have control if you know what i mean 13:53 yes. but my client are not computer savvy 13:54 ah 13:54 so you're looking for a solution in which they can easily handover their desktop to you, without complicated setup on their side 13:55 yes 13:55 with ssh, you could in theory ssh in , start a vncserver.. then connect via vnc.. with them not even looking at the pc. :) 13:55 your clients, what do they use? windows? osx? linux? 13:55 windows 13:56 problem with remote desktops.. is what do ya do when that part is also crashed. :) 13:56 I don't know anything about taking over windows machines. 13:57 mostly i would like to show them how to use certain program or so. 13:57 I don't know anything about windows machines. 13:57 :) 13:57 vnc, or some how windows hsa some sort of remote-desktop thing.. but ive never used the windows thing. .Just vnc. 13:57 bbl 13:58 help.. 13:59 I'm sorry abdul , cannot help you further here. 13:59 no idea which service for keyboard shortcuts? 13:59 guys thanks. 13:59 i got to go to work. 13:59 no ideas? 14:04 noaXess: I guess you better restart the beast if you upgraded important parts of KDE. 14:05 I mean logout, login 14:06 === shadeslayer is now known as solebum Hmm.. well got the nvidia logo going now.. after reinstalling the nvidia drivers. but compiz is still a nogo 14:17 but ideentical xorg.conf does work on my live-thimbdrive  i got for emergancies.. with compiz 14:18 got the compiz cube , Dr_willis_ ? 14:19 got no compiz anything... 14:19 /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Could not acquire compositing manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0" 14:19 ok 14:19 /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0 14:20 but IDENTICAL xorg.conf worked on the older install. - which is what is on the thumb drive 14:20 thumbdrive also has older kenrnel. 14:20 === manuel__ is now known as fliegenderfrosch at least now - the gfx on kde/gnome/other apps are faster,  and not glitzy like they were earlier today 14:21 well night all - its bed time for me 14:23 === torkiano is now known as jjardon === JackWinter_ is now known as JackWinter === solebum is now known as shadeslayer http://www.kbfx.org   is not up? they lose their website? i wanted to get more theames 14:35 aapzak: kded4 is the solution.. 14:35 === Riddelll is now known as Riddell cuznt: http://www.kbfx.net/ 14:41 and the kbfx links to the .org... go figure 14:41 danks 14:41 np 14:41 noaXess: restarting kded4 solved all your minor problems? 14:41 anyone know when we can expect 4.2 final? Still running RC1, which irritates me a bit I must say 14:43 === shadeslayer is now known as solebum aapzak: jep.. keyboard shortcuts comes back.. 14:48 aapzak: 27th of january :) http://www.kde.org/ 14:48 === Guest68727 is now known as ame__ is that the day we can expect it in Ubuntu as well you think? 14:48 RC2 should be available already, I believe 14:49 hm.. the rc1 was at the same time in kubuntu experimental repos as kde published it.. 14:49 there isn't an RC2 14:50 aight 14:50 my mistake 14:50 aye, no RC2 14:50 :) 14:50 nor will be 14:50 atm atleast 14:50 final release should be the 27th though 14:50 should yes and apparently will be too 14:51 my kwin is eating 30% of my cpu.. any idea why? 14:51 noaXess: hmmm, some effects on? 14:52 some... but wait.. 14:52 kopete takes 20% cpu and 50% mem here. 14:53 Tm_T: seam a nvidia problem.. 14:53 noaXess: how so? 14:53 noaXess: what driver version? 14:53 177 14:53 hmm, upgrade? 14:53 Tm_T: people in kde say that it be a prolbem with nvidia 14:54 Tm_T: how? combile self? 14:54 noaXess: no, it's in intrepid repositories 14:54 no upgraded version in repos even in unsupported repos 14:54 ? 14:54 ok 14:54 noaXess: intrepid-updates must be enabled 14:54 (as it always must be) 14:54 noaXess: I heard our nifty closed drivers installation gui doesn't have it but it's there 14:55 Tm_T: hm..- 14:56 why is the cpu and memload on kopete so huge? 14:57 aapzak: it usually isn't, perhaps some of the plugins you use? 14:57 history? 14:57 hmm, shouldn't be it 14:58 I'm using 4 protocols 14:58 I restarted kopete, big difference. I also switched of stats gathering, looks like a winner to me :) 14:59 aapzak: stats indeed, it's, well, evil 14:59 Tm_T: how to see what nvidia driver is loaded? 14:59 i have all repos, updates enabled in sources.. 15:00 The stats plugin uses an sqlite database, that's probably what's doing it 15:00 switched it back on, no load. Lets see what happens ... I'll let it run for now 15:01 Tm_T: do i need install the latest driver? 15:01 i mean, instead of upgrading the current 177 15:01 noaXess: you need 180 series driver, really 15:02 Tm_T: ok.. how to upgrade to them, i don't see any in the package list 15:03 noaXess: do following in konsole: "grep GLX /var/log/Xorg.0.log" 15:04 noaXess: first line will contain driver version I believe 15:04 Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108601/ 15:05 177.78 15:05 177.82.. sorry 15:05 aye 15:05 noaXess: do this then: "apt-cache search nvidia-glx-180" 15:06 Tm_T: ok its there.. so apt-get install it.. 15:07 noaXess: splendid 15:07 Tm_T: will it be automaticaly uses as default or need i make it as default? with the jockey-kde? 15:07 hi guys 15:07 noaXess: it will be used 15:08 guidancepowermanager depends on which services? powersaved for example or what? 15:08 !hi 15:08 Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! 15:08 hi moocow 15:08 ok... self explainend.. 177.82 will be removed ;) 15:08 something i did and i made kdeguidancepwoermanager not to show me options to choose governor 15:08 yeah... new driver new luck ;) 15:08 thanks Tm_T 15:08 180.11 15:08 ok.. nvidia 180.11 is on, rebooting... see ya 15:12 Tm_T: so, nvidia 180.11 is up and running... see whats happend :) 15:18 noaXess: good luck 15:18 * Tm_T hides 15:18 Does anyone know the url for downloading ndiswrapper drivers? 15:20 Everytime I search yahoo, I get a bunch of old links.... 15:20 15:25 ­ 15:25 whats going on 15:25 ah, keys back o normal 15:26 I wonder if that's the right place, however, I installed kde4.2rc on kubuntu 8.10, works fine, but automount (of an ext3 volume) is broken, gives an AccessDeniedByPolincy - is there a way to fix it? Mounting it manually everytimes is not that convinient 15:26 !aptfix 15:26 If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » 15:26 hi, does anyone know what konqueror plugin i need that lets konqueror find the feeds on a site? 15:27 === solebum is now known as shadelsayer hi everyone!!! 15:39 !hi | mapelo 15:41 mapelo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! 15:41 Hello 15:51 === fernando is now known as Guest99773 I've 2 partitions, Linux and Windows, how can I resize the partitions on my HDD to have only Linux partition and don't lose data? 15:52 kz: first piece of advice:  backup backup backup 15:53 if you don't do that you are really treading some dangerous ground 15:53 yes 15:53 once you know you have solid backups, get a live cd and do it that way 15:53 or a live usb disk or something 15:53 ok 15:54 gparted, qt, parted should work 15:54 I've to run parted on Live CD? or I can run parted using my actual Linux? 15:54 + 15:55 ¿? 15:55 yes but how you have your partitions setup it depends on what you can do 15:56 you won't be able to move / for example 15:56 ok 15:58 === central is now known as carlitos__ then I try a Live CD, thx! 15:58 hi, i wanted to compile one widget 15:58 http://pastebin.com/m2bfb8e9 15:58 here is what i got 15:58 can you help me? 15:58 === lerolero is now known as lalalalala === stephen is now known as Guest93238 === ame__ is now known as ame_ Hey there.. 16:32 Can anyone in here help a noob in need...? 16:32 Anyone?? 16:33 you need to ask the question 1st killerwee 16:34 we wont know if we can help otherwise 16:34 ok... :D 16:34 I can't get sound on kubuntu 16:34 !sound 16:35 If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 16:35 try that then 16:35 ;) 16:35 trying 16:35 right on 16:35 it will work 16:35 what version are you using? 16:36 i am kde 4.2 RC1 16:36 mine works great now 16:36 back in 3.5.x i had to mess with my creative 16:36 there are nothing like that in the sound system settings 16:37 all I get is a list of my soundcard... 16:37 and a button saying add device list to? 16:38 === ame_ is now known as ame === ame is now known as ame_ === fernando is now known as Guest61050 hi 16:41 I have proble 16:41 hello 16:42 is there any kde widget  to manage the wifi networks available ? 16:43 i tried looking in synaptic  but nothing looked apropriate any sugestion for this issue ? under kde 16:45 === mehdi is now known as mehdi_ limeaids 16:48 azz finally still ME 16:48 === matthias__ is now known as Trollinator http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GSA-E60L&cat=DVD&cpc=DVDbsc    does anyone think this dvd+rw work in kde? 17:00 cuznt, kde has nothing to do with it ...will it work on a Linux OS is the question ..and who knows 17:02 kde has everything to do with everything on my pc .........                            so there.. :p 17:03 cuznt, kde doesn't determine the the required drivers for hardware on your system 17:04 i know.... 17:05 and ty 17:05 i was wearing my kde pride baby 17:05 does kubuntu support WPA ? 17:06 * BluesKaj shrugs ...running kde4.2 0n my linux partition, right now I'm testing windows 7 17:06 ubsafder,  yes 17:06 !wifi | ubsafder 17:07 ubsafder: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs 17:07 i am not willing to run a system that takes 16gigs of hard drive to run. 17:08 Hi. Can someone please help me with a little bash script? I want to run a java program after every 15 minutes. 17:16 and append all of the output from each run into a file 17:17 === NCommander is now known as NC|Lunch === NC|Lunch is now known as NCommander Goan, look up cron 17:19 sure, noir_lord 17:20 Hi. I am on Hardy. Akregator does not show links for http://.... i need to upon the complete story , very very inconvinient. is there a fix? 17:21 Goan, if you have scipting experience , why not make a bin/sh and place it in init.d ..let it run as a daemon 17:22 Goan, it should be simple enough to set up cron to do what you want (by default cron checks every minute to see if any jobs are due to be executed) so you have the resolution you need time wise 17:22 === kpenrose_ is now known as kpenrose cuznt you're correct about W7, it has a large footprint ...with a few apps added it's almost 15G on this pc 17:30 how long does the installation of 8.10 usually take to 'Checking for packages to remove...' - install seems to be hung, does anyone have any idea? 17:31 dougl, how long now ? 17:32 BluesKaj, been about 10-20 minutes at 95% 17:33 BluesKaj, 96% now so I guess it is not hung :) 17:35 dougl,  just let it go ..it took around 20-30 mins just to remove old packages 17:35 BluesKaj, cool - thanks for the info/peice of mind :) 17:36 === cbass is now known as Paradigm_Shift dougl, NP ... it's prolly due to kde4 replacing some of the kde3 stuff 17:38 evening 17:46 hi. I have some problems with audio. I can hear it with the pc speaker, but I can't hear it with headphones. all worked since one day ago, and now I don't understand what has happened. I tried different headphones, but the result is the same 17:47 paolo: when you say pc speaker do you mean the ones plugged into your soundcard or the one inside your computer? 17:48 rickest: the one inside 17:51 paolo: that one really doesn't have anything to do with regular sound; i.e., videos, mp3s, etc.  so your real audio hardware is probably either unrecognized (no driver) or misconfigured 17:51 rickest: I can hear all the audio types with this speaker 17:52 paolo: then I can't help, sorry 17:54 thanks aniway rickest 17:55 17:55 Hey sorry I have a problem with my Canon printer who can help me? 17:56 17:56 Hey sorry I have a problem with my Canon printer who can help me? 17:56 === fernando is now known as Guest24580 === Guest24580 is now known as fernando_ Hey sorry I have a problem with my Canon printer who can help me? 17:56 gee... you could state the problem... 17:56 hola disculpen tengo un problema con mi impresora canon quien me puede ayudar? 17:58 installing the driver pulls me that I lack the library libglib 1.2 but now I have installed 17:58 installing the driver how? 17:58 17:59 from the file manager 17:59 you mean the pacakge manager? adept? 17:59 yes 18:00 !info libglib 18:00 Package libglib does not exist in intrepid 18:00 !find libglib 18:00 Found: libglib-perl, libglib2.0-cil, libglibmm-2.4-1c2a, libglibmm-2.4-dbg, libglibmm-2.4-dev (and 19 others) 18:00 18:01 when you try to install I get the error: dependency is not satisfi: libgblib1.2 18:01 satisfiable:libglib1.2 18:01 === rob is now known as Guest79447 hee ? can I help me 18:02 help 18:03 help me 18:03 bonjour 18:03 fernando_: mind-reading over the internet is not an art many people master 18:03 anyone know if there is a package containing the 35 GPL licensed URW fonts? Ive looked but cant find anything with them in 18:17 Someone knows why when I try to install digikam apt deletes kdeplasma-addons? 18:25 I am trying to change the keyboard shortcuts for amarok on a media keyboard. how is this accomplished? 18:30 === john is now known as Guest95000 ahoj 18:38 poradi mi prosim nekdo s nastavenim skype? 18:38 hi, can someone help me with settings by skype? 18:39 does anyone know if kde-base and such packages are dependent on the 32 bit or 64 bit architechture? like if I have a 64 arch and upgrade kde to 4.2 will I have to have 64 bit packages? 18:42 hi... how can i set a shortcut to minimize all windows? 18:44 === fernando is now known as Guest66928 fernando 18:55 can i synch kalendar (KDE 4.2 RC 2) with google calendars? 19:04 neothecat: yes, you can 19:04 is it bi-directional? 19:05 neothecat: it is 19:05 hypet_ch:  thank you very much! 19:06 neothecat: but not on its own 19:06 pls how can i setup a keyboard shortcut in K to minimize windows? 19:06 neothecat: you can accomplish it with GCalDaemon 19:06 StR|Sangreal: that must be somewhere in the system settings panel 19:07 hyper_ch: i will check that out. thanks. 19:07 keyboard and mouse i think and then shortcuts 19:07 i was also thinking of installing one of the free groupware servers at home.  anybody have any experience/luck with that? 19:07 yep 19:07 neothecat: need a few links on that topic? 19:08 neothecat: I've tried before, it's always a lot of work 19:08 lots of awesomeness out there 19:08 and yes it is a lot of work 19:08 sure, any information would be very helpful. 19:08 groupware handles some rather broad and deep topics ... its hard to really make it simple 19:08 so it's not just "sudu aptitude " and it magically works? :) 19:08 neothecat: http://www.chipbennett.net/wordpress/index.php/2008/06/how-to-synchronize-google-calendar-with-kde-pim-part-2/ 19:09 neothecat: http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/usage-b.html#offline 19:09 neothecat: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/11/howto-two-way-sync-between-kontact-and-gcal/ 19:09 hi guys 19:09 neothecat: with those links I set it up here 19:09 hi elitrou 19:10 i need some help with scanner configuration 19:10 hi hyper 19:10 hi guys, there something in kde to sync a google calendar from web to offline? 19:10 elwood: check the links a few lines up 19:11 hyper__ch to the rescue 19:11 i was about to suggest google it :) 19:11 omg , sorry, i'm blind :) 19:11 hyper_ch:  thanks a lot.  this is going to help a lot. 19:11 these sorts of questions are all answered by google tho :) 19:12 moocow: you know letmegooglethatforyou.com ? 19:12 moocow:  well, sometimes i like to get peoples personal experience with dealing with certain issues, or there recommendations 19:12 heh, i heard about that yeah 19:12 neothecat: fair enough 19:12 because i have spent all afternoons trying to set things up, after trying nth different recommendations online, and none of them worked. 19:13 moocow: just call that page, enter your terms and it will get then a url that you can give to others... even bette, you can also convert it to a tinyurl... then with a flash animation the search terms will be entered and a search will be conducted :) 19:13 and then you spend a few minutes chatting with someone on irc who went through the same pain as you, and it gets done right away. 19:14 neothecat: gcaldaemon uses java... basicall you create an ical file in which you can save the stuff and that you can then sync with google 19:14 and that's why i didn't ask for anybody to actually show me how, i just wanted to know someone has successfully done it.  but hyper_ch was nice enough to hold my hand anyway :) 19:14 hyper__ch: or i can do what i usually do to get my self banned ... abuse the users 19:15 hehehe 19:15 :) 19:15 neothecat: well, it took me quite a while to find that 19:15 Hi, my gamepad get's recognized as a mouse instead of a gamepad - and behaves just like one, except that none of the buttons nor the second anolog stick works any longer 19:17 poradi mi prosim nekdo s nastavenim skype? 19:17 hi, can someone help me with settings by skype? 19:17 jenda: maybe 19:18 jenda: no private query 19:18 jenda: one more message in private query and you're on my ignore list 19:18 jenda: you're now on my ignore list 19:19 !cz | jenda 19:20 jenda: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme. 19:20 hyper: thx for you great support... 19:20 hyper: I love such assholes as you... 19:21 jenda: no need to be rude 19:21 Kepp that up and you will get kicked from the channel 19:21 elitrou: I' m not angry, but when I ask for help, I write someone a PM and he add me on ignore list is it normal? 19:22 Yes 19:22 i don't think so... 19:22 kľud jenda 19:22 asi ti nevie nik pomäcť 19:22 pomôcť 19:22 Get used to it, it is the standard on help channels. We are not personal tutors, ask teh question in the channel and expect hellp in the channel 19:22 Asking a proper question is a good start 19:22 hi all, can anyone tell me if there will be an incremental update for kde 4.2 from the rc... 19:23 Or go to the #ubuntu-cz chanel and ask in your native language if English is an issue 19:23 I've wrote him PM after he wrote me maybe! 19:23 I'm already on ubuntu, because you're a little bit crazy 19:23 j3frea: you're using ppa repos? 19:23 ale no neurážaj 19:23 Then he was being nice, most people ignore PMs from people asking for help 19:23 And if you stilll want help then ask the question again with some information 19:23 hyper__ch: i havent updated yet - i'm not phased 19:23 str: kokoti, nic jinyho... se vsadim ze to je Madar :-) 19:24 Like what the problem is, why it isn't working, what you want to do etc. 19:24 hyper__ch: in other words I havent set it up but im willing to 19:24 j3frea: where do you have then RC from? 8.10 does not ship RC 19:24 hyper__ch: i dont have the rc yet - i would use the ppa to get it though 19:24 j3frea: well, upgrade will be incremental.... but at lot of basic things have changed from 4.1 to 4.2 RC 19:24 hyper__ch: ya, i wont have a good connection from monday onwards so im wondering whether id have to get 4.2 entirely or whether it would be a smaller update if i already had the rc 19:25 hyper__ch: so im deciding whether or not to get the rc 19:25 j3frea: updates will be smaller on each "upgrade" but overall you will download more stuff 19:26 jenda: he asked you politely enough to ask him in the common room, not in the private... 19:26 hyper__ch: right now i can download a lot - it is more whether i will need to download a lot when 4.2 actually comes out 19:26 j3frea: I mean if you upgrade to rc now and later to stable then, with both upgrades combined, you will ahve downloaded more 19:27 j3frea: compared to if you just upgrade from 4.1 to 4.2 stable 19:27 hyper__ch: but if i download rc now then the stable 4.2 will be less right? 19:28 j3frea: yes 19:28 hyper__ch: the reason is that I will not have a good connection soon so i want to save on future downloads 19:28 j3frea: not having a good connectino sux :( 19:28 hyper__ch: tell me about it - im in south africa 19:29 ﻿hyper__ch: and are you sure that there will be an incremental update? on #kde they said that there would not be although i realise that kubuntu does stuff on their own 19:29 j3frea: ask Mark to build a 1GB dedicated line for you :) 19:29 hyper__ch: okay... 19:29 hyper__ch: what's his nick ? :D 19:29 j3frea: well, there won't be any 4.2 for Kubuntu 8.10 19:29 j3frea: but the PPA will very likely upgrade 19:29 j3frea: so it will be incremental 19:30 j3frea: not sure about 9.04 19:30 hyper__ch: okay - then that's awesome... 19:30 hyper__ch: as far as i know 9.04 plans to include 4.2 19:30 j3frea: haven't tried it yet... 19:30 hyper__ch: rc or kde4? 19:30 j3frea: 9.04 19:31 j3frea: will probably install it next weekend 19:31 oh - isnt it scheduled for april 19:32 j3frea: alpha versions are out 19:32 RIAD0 read performance is much faster than RAID1, right? 19:33 hyper__ch: not really a bleeding edge type of guy - with a poor con you cant really afford to be... 19:33 j3frea: :) 19:33 hyper__ch: :( 19:33 j3frea: I like getting daily updates :) that's why I use amaork neon 19:33 hyper__ch: tell me again what mark's nick is :D 19:33 !microphone 19:34 Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone 19:34 j3frea: no clue.... 19:34 !audio input 19:34 Sorry, I don't know anything about audio input 19:34 j3frea: I don't think he's on the in here 19:34 hyper__ch: ahh, now what's a guy to do 19:34 hyper__ch: no hope... 19:34 StR|Sangreal: what is your problem? 19:34 j3frea: :( 19:34 hyper__ch: ja well... maybe one day they'll get jacked up here and i'll also run amarok neon (at least I do have amarok 2) 19:35 j3frea: amarok neon is a nightly updated package from svn 19:36 hyper__ch: what does help with a slower con is that you make sure you make it count - for example you say amarok rather than "amaork" :P 19:36 j3frea: provided by apachelogger 19:36 hyper__ch: figured it was a nightly 19:36 j3frea: btw, a nice little page:  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch 19:36 hyper__ch: kk, thanks for the info - appreciate the help and I'm having a look at the page - ta... 19:37 hyper__ch: gtg 19:37 j3frea: cya 19:37 how do i find what package would provide gd.h ? 19:43 !find gd.h 19:44 Found: libgdchart-gd2-noxpm, libgdchart-gd2-noxpm-dev, libgdchart-gd2-xpm, libgdchart-gd2-xpm-dev, python-gdchart2 (and 1 others) 19:44 i have the lib installed but i don't have the header 19:45 Hi, I have kubuntu 8.10 and edited sources to deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main and while downloading it installed mysql (which I do not need) and several other things I do not need but primarily I stopped the install at ttf-dejavu and ttf-dejavu-extra and did not install the packages following that package, it says to dpkg --configure -a amd apt-get -f install which both fail at said packages, what 19:45 is onw to do? and what are those packages for? 19:45 I did the upgrade for fixes for multiple monitors 19:46 s/onw/one 19:46 ubsafder: you'd want the -dev package of the lib 19:48 Hello! I downloaded and burned a Kubuntu live-CD. When I boot my PC up with it, it gives me the languages choice and the menu, but when I press enter to choose something, it locks up. What can I do ? 19:48 please, my vlc/kaffeine flickers on playing. how can i fix it? 19:49 ok but can't find the package of the lib 19:49 sin: check the disc integrity 19:49 cjae: "Check CD for defects" locks up as well. 19:49 sin: must be bad disc, check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded 19:51 as i could not find what package profided libgd.so.2 i am loking to learn to find package by their file contents 19:52 i know i want gd.h for the lib i have already installed 19:54 ubsafder: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has a search field for that, neer the bottom of the page 19:55 anybody using kde 4.2 19:55 === ricky_ is now known as Guest43298 === Guest43298 is now known as ricky_1966 rc1 19:58 Hey all! I have just installed Kubuntux86_64 KDE. my only problem is the bootloader (GRUB) did not add Vista properly. Can anyone tell me what I need to change in grub to get vista to boot as well? 20:00 try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo 20:00 please, i need a foccused help on my video/display/graphic/microphone 20:00 i was trying to read walkthroughs and tutorials but didnt succeed 20:01 is there sb to help me please? 20:01 StR|Sangreal, the flickering in vlc can maybe disabled by setting the video output from xv to x11 20:03 how, where? 20:03 open vlc 20:03 settings > video 20:03 the whole window except the headder starts flickering on play 20:03 what video output are you running in vlc now ? 20:04 === Zorix_ is now known as Zorix default 20:06 change to X11 20:07 the clip window didnt open 20:07 no vid with x11? 20:08 none 20:08 change it to Xvideo 20:08 yet no video opens on any choice 20:10 I have tried this and it is not solving my problem. If you can help me, I will tell you what I have and see if you can guide me 20:12 brandon__: isn't it enough to boot vista in a vm? 20:13 :o theres a #kubuntu, nice 20:13 I have had vista for a while and i have to use it for work. 20:14 kon: that's not the #kubuntu you are looking for *makes jedi mind trick* 20:14 brandon__: poor you :( 20:14 :P 20:14 I just installed kubuntu on my MacBook Pro 20:14 StR|Sangreal, what video card is this 20:14 Runs so nice 20:14 ok it seems like vlc doesnt open any video track anymore (just changed the output mode from default to x11) 20:14 kon: I'd even suggest to update it to 4.2 rc 20:15 only issue is see is the Application Loader, it keeps shutting down on me :( 20:15 LOOK I came here for help but if you just want to antagonize me than to hell with you 20:15 kon: you might want to try to upgrade it - maybe that helps 20:15 kaffeine still opens but flickers all around except the upper header 20:15 hyper__ch: I think i will 20:15 the menu bar as well and all the context menu 20:15 kon: :) 20:15 I'll try a different distro. 20:15 and my card is ati mobility radeon x1450 20:15 the normal ati drivers or fglrx ? 20:16 Does GimpShop run on kubuntu? 20:16 no clue 20:16 hyper__ch: don't antagonise users 20:16 i installed the closed thirdparty driver offered by the system 20:16 and nothing else 20:16 stdin: if you'd explain to me what "antagonise" means 20:16 hmm ok so fglrx 20:16 StR|Sangreal, havew u tried restarting vlc or using mplayer ? 20:17 stdin_: if you'd explain to me what "antagonise" means 20:18 hyper__ch: if you can't help someone, replying with "pore you :(" does not help 20:18 never mind, i found gimp on the app loader 20:18 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antagonize 20:18 stdin: well, he was given already the correct link above.. at least that's what my backlog says 20:19 hyper__ch: and that excuses you? 20:20 hmmm. antagonize"to make hostile"... having pity with someone is making hostile... interesting interpretation 20:20 why do I not have a /~.bashrc ? 20:20 Bash.org Getting a random quote from bash.org, Please wait.. 20:20 Bash.org - #958 Quote: (heck01) i sometimes dont know if i'm straight or not, then a cute girl sits down next to me and i get a huge erection and i remember 20:20 Opps 20:20 sorry 20:20 remotes off 20:20 * Remote is off 20:20 :) 20:20 lokpest: because it's ~/.bashrc 20:21 hyper__ch: that was what I ment, dont have that either 20:21 hey thanx for the bedst gui ever 20:22 stdin: well, actually I think it does 20:22 thank you 20:23 stdin: wow, getting kicked for that 20:23 !guidlines 20:23 Sorry, I don't know anything about guidlines 20:23 !guidelines 20:23 The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines 20:23 I suggest you read that 20:23 stdin: why? 20:23 because those are the rules of this channel 20:24 stdin: getting kicked for having sympathies with someone... that's really against the rules 20:24 sorry i had to restart my xserver 20:24 I am haveing a problem finding my vista partition number. 20:24 stdin: and if that's against the rules then it's not my place to be here 20:24 so what should i do about my graphics troubles? 20:24 i keep getting this error on a new install 20:25 brandon__: anyway, I think you need to add something to vista to get it working. did you see the "External Links" at the bottom of the page I gave you? 20:25 "no rrot system is defined" 20:25 anyone know what that is? 20:25 root* 20:25 StR|Sangreal, have u tried mplayer ? 20:25 how do I get back into vista? 20:26 i mean often some popups are black or flickering, some graphical effects are malfunctioning and any attempt to open video file with vlc, kaffeine, mplayer ends in either freezing of the software or it opens on the top of the desktop and cant be controlled much and some 60% of frames are black only 20:26 StR|Sangreal: Might be the wrong driver for your video card? 20:26 or outdated 20:27 StR|Sangreal, sounds like a driver problem  on youre system and xard you dont need the closed drivers 20:27 the opensource ones would work fine 20:27 yes I saw those links, but they all seem to be refferring to before hand and not after the fact 20:27 brandon__: does your system have a "restore" feature? It's sometimes shows before grub, like "F11 System Restore". It doesn't matter in what order you installed, as long as you setup grub last. or restore the windows bootloader and then grub 20:28 brandon__: if you have the install CD/DVD there is an advanced/other 20:30 options section. Within it are options to run a startup repair 20:30 ok will try thanks 20:33 hi all 20:33 what is ttf-dejavu? 20:35 !ttf-dejavu 20:36 Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf-dejavu 20:36 !ttf 20:36 Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer 20:36 ms font will ot install wither 20:36 either 20:36 === vincenzo is now known as vincenzo_ hello 20:37 none??? 20:39 hello! 20:40 alguém aí fala português? 20:41 === ricky_ is now known as Guest93662 !pt | airton 20:44 airton: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado. 20:44 blz! 20:45 who do I not have a ~/.bashrc 20:48 add another user and steal it from that one 20:49 !radius 20:49 Sorry, I don't know anything about radius 20:49 tyler_d1: why? 20:49 tyler_d1: if I didnt get one, why should the new one get one? 20:50 lokpest: why are you asking then? 20:51 stdin: because I dont have a ~/.bashrc 20:51 well, you or something else would have deleted it, it's there by default (coppied from /etc/skel) 20:52 stdin: nope, never was there from the begining... think a saw a bugreport about it 20:54 then you know the reason 20:55 I just want to know how I get one! :) 20:55 copy it from /etc/skel 20:55 Hi, when I try to send a signed email it immediately says I put in a badpassphrase ... but I didn't get chance to enter one. Any ideas how to solve this? (kmail kde4.2rc1) 20:56 ok i have removed the proprietary software 20:56 for graphic controlling 20:56 and reinstalled one package mentioned in the tutorial 20:56 no video software responses on my video now 20:57 lokpest: use "ls -a ~" to see if you have it, because it's a hidden file. 20:57 I cannot seem to install my nvidia drivers on my hardware (amd athlon 32bit/512 w/fx5700)... log = nvidia.ko failed to build! 20:58 snake_: I know that :) 20:58 ok 20:58 so, now I should have one.. 20:58 ah good, now I can play with aliases :---) 21:00 is kubuntu better than opensuse? 21:04 "better" is only poosible to determine in a specific enviroment 21:05 possible* 21:05 i certainly like it 21:05 it works great on my pc and i had to start veryvery little linux knowledge 21:06 like? kubuntu "ubuntu" or suse? kde or gnome? 21:06 kde 21:06 kubuntu 4.2 RC1 21:06 iv been using ubuntu for 3 years. iv alwaysed used gnome as my environment. but kde 4 has me wanting to try it. but i hear the new opensuse 11 is pretty nice 21:07 no idea about open suse. 21:08 i started on the recommendation of a peep on furthurnet.org 21:08 lost my windowz lic when my processor and mother board crapped the cookie 21:08 windows sucks. stick with linux 21:09 well i know that now 21:09 i dig kubuntu 21:10 even if windows was better design wise (which it isnt), based on principle Linux will always be superior 21:10 if i could get my webcam to work, everything will be just exactly perfect 21:10 lease i have just removed the proprietary ATI controller because one told me that it causes all the flickering of my videoplayers... how should i install the right opensource one? (my architecture is centrino2, distro kubuntu intrepid and videocard ati mobility radeon x1450) 21:11 you have youre trial and error cuznt, but there is always a fix to the problems 21:12 anyone has an idea on how to make lexmark x2650 work on kubuntu ? 21:12 i've tryed installing it's software...but it won't work 21:12 it won't print...neither scan 21:12 is there a way to install nvidia driver in kde? 21:13 dougl yes, what version of kde do you have ? 21:14 should be prepackaged 21:14 well i have since installed 2 hard drives kde on each 21:14 use one to fix the other 21:14 yes, wes_'s right :) but if it doesn't work already it means that something's wrong 21:14 mihai__, default that comes with 8.10... 21:14 sorry forgot to mention that :) 21:14 so what's the prob then ? 21:15 mihai__, I would like to install nvidia drivers but manual nvidia installer fails to build kernel module... is there somewhere in kde to install older version for my fx5700? 21:17 I had good luck with the envy driver installer 21:17 my mouse pointer disappears when I rollover the opera tab bar, anybody heard of this problem before? 21:21 === shadeslayer is now known as solebum I had a little pop up icon come up in my system tray and it had options to enable nvidia drivers - one option for current then an option for older driver = how do I get that application/utility again? 21:22 !wpa2 21:22 Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs 21:22 I am running 8.10 21:22 nevermind, must have been a transient, because a restart fixed it 21:25 hi.  i have a set of photos, and i need to print them 4 to a page on photo paper.  what is the best way to do this?  the best program? 21:29 Is it possible to let the button "attach in email" i dolphin to work with thunderbird instead of kmail? 21:32 === stdin is now known as stdin === stdin_ is now known as stdin === solebum is now known as shadeslayer === stdin is now known as stdin_ === paolo is now known as faLUCE hmm, this seams to be a related bugreport 21:34 https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+question/24656 21:34 === robson is now known as Robson_br === elwghost is now known as elwood anyone? 21:52 !de 21:55 In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. 21:55 I have a problem with my external not working in 8.04 LTS.   I run the install for 8.04 and it causes my external drive's light to go "red".  And it hangs.  However, I run the install for 8.10 and it doesn't hang up.  Should I try to flip off the hard drive, install the OS, upgrade it, then flip back on the HD?  Or would I be wasting my time as it wont work even after upgrade?  I have problems with 8.10. 21:55 please, i have uninstalled the proprietary graphic driver (i use centrino2 notebook and my videocard is ATI radeon mobile x1450) 21:57 how can i install the proper opensource driver? 21:58 with the proprietary one my videoplayer wasnt able to play vids properly 21:59 hmmm  quiet here  eh ? 22:02 yep very quiet 22:03 * shadeslayer starts to brush up a storm 22:04 you want me too 22:04 hehe  I just found konversation amongst other things  while trying to get ubuntu to talk with my phone,  tried kde and all sorts -  then I found an up to date thread 22:04 all the same info just up to date repository urls:  world of difference 22:05 so is this channel  normally fully of general chat or nerdy chat ? 22:05 My KDE4 is broke after an update. It just logs into a white screen, I see my desktop, then more white screen. 22:08 dkkong restart x and choose to log in on the safe mode 22:09 how come there is no package for ngspice? 22:10 === fernando is now known as Guest41393 then do sudo apt-get update 22:10 sudo apt-get upgrade -f 22:10 === nicolas_ is now known as Guest95118 Okay, just a sec. BRB. Thanks cuznt 22:10 === Guest95118 is now known as Bou there were unresolved plasma dependancies dkkong 22:10 stewart sometimes 22:11 does somebody know how i can get ngspice? 22:12 yousef what are you looking to do 22:12 cause for some reason the package is not in the repos 22:12 === denis is now known as denis_ Hi Can anyone tell me how to get compiz-fusion working properly with the "cube" on 8.10 running Kde 4.12 please?..thanks 22:12 i want the ngspice engine 22:12 === denis_ is now known as denis__ for oregano 22:13 circuit analysing 22:13 !de 22:14 In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. 22:14 yousef you got gnome or kde 22:14 kde 22:14 3.5 22:14 did you download the package for ngspice ngspice 22:15 what package 22:16 im looking for te package ngspice 22:16 ill give you a forum and location 22:17 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292856 forum 22:17 thnx 22:18 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=38962&package_id=31152 location 22:18 yousef_, here it is :) http://ngspice.sourceforge.net/ 22:18 of file 22:18 !pulse 22:18 PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions 22:18 then terminal it after you download this from that site sudo dpkg -i ngspice_17.0.0-1_i386.deb 22:18 !compiz-fusion 22:18 Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion 22:18 So can anyone tell me what pulseaudio does besides break sound systems? 22:19 yousef this is the file your looking for ngspice_17.0.0-1_i386.deb 22:20 yousef at this website http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=38962&package_id=31152 22:20 64bit? 22:21 oh wait 22:21 ok thanx 22:21 No luck cuznt. I still see the desktop and the welcome to the pasmoid note, then white takes over and I can't see a thing 22:22 dkkong what did you do 22:23 just an upgrade 22:23 try looking at your download history to see what you downloaded 22:24 maybe you will find the problem 22:24 szrhawaii: Yeah, I was running 3, then it upgraded to 4 22:24 dkkong did a sudo apt-get upgrade -f 22:24 That too 22:24 RC1? 22:24 === denis__ is now known as seckel === seckel is now known as denis === denis is now known as denis_ I don't think it's the RC1 version. It's whatever was in the repo. Honestly, I'm not quite sure how the upgrade happened. I was happy with KDE 3, but somehow got the 4 packages installed 22:26 === denis_ is now known as derdenis what are the 4 packages 22:26 The KDE 4 packages. 22:26 === ice__ is now known as icelord why would you put kde 4 packages ontop of kde 3.5 22:32 === derdenis is now known as vormalsdenis === MissySplendour is now known as LittleMissy === roberto is now known as Guest69432 Is anyone here knowedgeable with graphics cards? My card (9800GT) has two DVI outs, and claims its max resolution is 2560x1600, is that per monitor or in total 23:06 TimS: 1280x800x2 23:21 How to remove koffice-data-kde4 package? I want to install new KDE 23:22 === Ardarandir1 is now known as Ardarandir === carlos is now known as Guest98588 How to remove koffice-data-kde4 package? I want to install new KDE 23:28 === rgdf is now known as ulysses__ === mateusz is now known as crash_art witajcie mam taki problemik malutki 23:32 mianowicie chodzi o to ponieważ zakupiłem sobie w anglii laptopa advent 23:33 i on ma guziki od włączania wi-fi, poczty, i guzik od włączanie szybszych obrotów wentylatora 23:34 i żaden z nich nie chce mi działąć :/ 23:34 tochę lipa jest bo wi-fi muszę odpalać z konsoli (ifconfig wlan0 up) 23:35 może ktoś mi pomoże jak to ugryść :/ 23:35 ?? 23:35 aha no dobra widzę szału nie ma nikt nie jest chętny do wspułpracy :[ 23:36 hi 23:42 === Flare183_ is now known as Flare183 ok, i have a problem. I switched my laptop to run dual screens, now i'm stuck with 640x480 res and can't get it fixed 23:53 hi 23:58 firefox in kubuntu does not look right, the tabs have graphic errors, is this common? is there a fix? 23:59 === KonDTsan is now known as DarkTan`

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