[00:00] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: there are different versions of kde at the moment
[00:01] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: kde 3.5 is the most stable but oldest, kde 4.1 is the kubuntu intrepid default, kde 4.2 is only released in a few days, but the RC is already very usable
[00:01] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: depending on which version you choose, the packages/sources are different
[00:01] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch  It will work w/ 8.10?
[00:02] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: yes, i’m using 8.10 with kde 4.2 release candidate
[00:02] <fliegenderfrosch> and it works fine
[00:03] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch so I can use either synaptic package manager or apt-get (terminal) what do I look for (for 4.2)?
[00:03] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: in general, you have to choose between the 3.5 and the 4.x series. 3.5 is more mature, but 4.x is where all the new development happens and it is already very usable
[00:03] <Dr_willis> kDE 4.2 RC 1: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1
[00:03] <fliegenderfrosch> yes, but for the 4.2 RC you have to add new sources
[00:04] <fliegenderfrosch> Dr_willis: thx, that’s what i was about to post :)
[00:04] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch Do I hear a nother alternative, i.e., build from source?
[00:05] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: you could build it from source as well, but the packages are definitely the most comfortable solution
[00:05] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: plus you will probably get an upgrade to 4.2 final automatically
[00:06] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch I agree... sight unseen. The instructions would be on the link Dr_willis mentioned?
[00:06] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: but remember that 4.2 isn’t officially supported by the kubuntu team
[00:06] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: exactly
[00:07] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: still I find 4.2 to be more usable than the official 4.1 packages
[00:07] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch Apparently ubuntu intrepid isn
[00:07] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch either... I'm having a hard time getting any help.
[00:08] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: you mean the gnome version? I’m actually quite happy with it (on my laptop), but that’s probably different for everyone
[00:09] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch Yes, exactly.
[00:10] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: if your problems are related to the kernel or drivers, changing from gnome to kde won’t help however
[00:10] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch It may be something I did, as I built a number of rather complex programs... then the desktop went fluey... (high tech term)...
[00:11]  * Dr_willis is confused...
[00:11] <Dr_willis> but im also holding the grandson.. so im distracted.. :P
[00:11] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch Ok, I'll go check out the recommended web site now, thanks all!
[00:13] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: np
[00:13] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch One last note as I saw your last message... getting the tools/utilities to understand what is going wrong seems a real problem in Linux? No? What to do?
[00:14] <fliegenderfrosch> HenryHeron: which tools/utilities do you mean?
[00:15] <HenryHeron> fliegenderfrosch I'm thinking of trying to be able to understand how to tell if the problem/s are related as you suggest, kernel or driver.
[00:24] <da> Am I the only one here?
[00:25] <BluesKaj> yes
[00:25] <da> wow
[00:25] <fliegenderfrosch> da: do you feel lonely now?
[00:26] <da> no, I got my wife in the other room watching TV.
[00:26] <kenami> oh ! you are the one then
[00:27] <da> I don/t know.
[00:29] <hagabaka> is anyone having a problem where clicking a link in a Qt program (qtconfig-qt4) doesn't open it?
[00:32] <BluesKaj> hagabaka , did you try it in the Konsole ?
[00:33] <hagabaka> yeah, i get an output like http://pastebin.com/f202e88dc
[00:33] <BluesKaj> none of the URLs in the app respond
[00:34] <hagabaka> for you too?
[00:35] <BluesKaj> qtconfig-qt4 in the terminal opens Qt but the urls listed and highlighted don't open
[00:35] <hagabaka> do you get that output too?
[00:37] <BluesKaj> yes Qt configuration GUI opened
[00:38] <Ketrel> I'm having two problems with the Network manager:1. I can't have more than one set to autoconnect, and 2. It won't autoconnect to a network with SSID broadcast off. (This is in 8.10, and neither of these were problems in 8.04)
[00:38] <Ketrel> Anyone have any clue here, or should I ask on the forums
[00:39] <BluesKaj> hagabaka , I'm not familiar with it , so i didn't fool with it
[00:39] <hagabaka> did you try the links in "About Qt" dialog?
[00:40] <hagabaka> or the "phonon" tab?
[00:40] <sparr> my kde appears to not be monitoring keyboard input to keep the screensaver turned off.  that is, when i do not use the mouse for N minutes the screensaver comes on even as I am in the middle of typing.  how do i fix that?
[00:41] <BluesKaj> hagabaka , yes none respond
[00:42] <hagabaka> ok, thanks
[00:44] <BluesKaj> sparr , system settings/country region and language/keyboard layout/enable keyboard layout/ keyboard model ..choose your KB from thelist if it's there
[00:49] <sparr> BlueEagle: its just a normal 104 key keyboard, already selected
[01:02] <kaddi> heya
[01:03] <rabx> hi ppl, can anyone here tell me how to change the firewall settings so that Konvresation can use ident ?
[01:03] <kaddi> i just managed to install latex-suite (for vi) twice, now i get the following error "command Error detected while processing /var/lib/vim/addons/plugin/remoteOpen.vim: line 37:E174: Command already exists: add ! to replace it
[01:03] <kaddi> how can I remove the error without losing all my latexsuite settings?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> kaddi,  you installed that how exactly?
[01:10] <awolf> \join guitar
[01:10] <awolf> \join
[01:10] <Dr_willis> try a /join
[01:12] <kaddi> via aptitude...
[01:12] <kaddi> i was scrolling through the installed/not installed packages and latex-suite had a "c" in front of it, instead of the expected "i".
[01:13] <kaddi> so, because I was to lazy to check what I was doing, I selected it for installation
[01:13] <kaddi> only to realise afterwards that I actually already  installed it way back in october
[01:14] <kaddi> (this was totally my bad, I know... but it would be nice if you helped me clean up the mess anyways ;) )
[01:17] <kaddi> what probably happened, is that I installed latex-suite via the vim-addonmanager in october and which is why aptitude didn't recognize it as an isntalled package
[01:18] <Dr_willis> ahh... so vim-addonmanager confused  the apt-get stuff eh
[01:18]  * Dr_willis has no idea what the vim-addonmanager does. :)
[01:18] <Dr_willis> cant recall ever ysing that part of vim.
[01:19] <kaddi> it installs addons ;)
[01:19] <kaddi> no, I was having trouble with the latex-suite
[01:19] <kaddi> there's a bug where the functions don't get mapped correctly, when installing latexsuite via aptitude
[01:19] <kaddi> installing it with the addonmanager somehow solves the problem
[01:20] <Dr_willis> could remove the thing both ways.. and then reinstall it the way you want I guess.
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ive not used LaTeX since college. :)
[01:20] <kaddi> hehe, im still in college, so ill have to use it for a while ;)
[01:21] <kaddi> the problem ist, that I havent really touched this pc in quite a while, so Im not sure where all the configurations are saved
[01:22] <kaddi> and I would be really annoyed if i lost the settings... which is why i dont really want to uninstall latexsuite
[01:22] <Dr_willis> If they are system settings instaleld by a package. and not customized by you.. then reinstalling them via the package manager or whatever.. should restore them,
[01:22] <Dr_willis> Its only customized things that id be worrying about
[01:22] <kaddi> no, they are customized by me
[01:23] <kaddi> latexsuite translates shortcuts into valid latex-code... something like turinung #/ into \frac{<++>} {<++>}<++>
[01:24] <kaddi> and I did set a lot of such shortcuts
[01:24] <kaddi> :(
[01:25] <kaddi> but maybe this is the price i'll have to pay for being stupid :(
[01:27] <kubuntu-user> hello
[01:28] <kubuntu-user> anybody have kubuntu 8.10 running on a IBM T41 laptop?
[01:28] <kubuntu-user> I'm having trouble connecting to wireless access point.. any ideas?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> kaddi,  yea the package manager i think will notice customized files and not overwrite them
[01:30] <kaddi> but he will delete them, if i uninstall the package?
[01:30] <Dr_willis> I dont think so.. but not sure..
[01:30] <Dr_willis> I wouldent think it would..  since it noticed the changed and dident install over them.
[01:31] <fliegenderfrosch> kubuntu-user: I’ve got ubuntu 8.10 on it (and sometimes use the kde desktop as well), but I don’t have problems with wireless
[01:32] <kaddi> so i just need to have faith and uninstall the package? :D
[01:33] <kubuntu-user> fliegenderfrosch-I installed it fresh few days ago and it was working fine until last night..
[01:33] <kubuntu-user> do you know how to see the log?
[01:33] <kubuntu-user> from knetworkmanager I can see the wireless networks available..
[01:33] <kubuntu-user> but I can't seem to connect to a simple unsecured network..
[01:34] <Dr_willis> kaddi,  well if the sytem still works now.. you may want to jkust leave it alone..  or are you saying the vi-latex thing no longer works?
[01:35] <kaddi> no its working, it's just throwing a lot of messages and i have to confirm 2 error messages before i can actually open vi
[01:35] <kaddi> which, in the long term, is rather annoying
[01:36] <BentFrank> Trying to install Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10.  I have CDs for both.  Either way, it gets to Step 3 of 6, where I pick a keyboard.  Then it does Scanning for Disks and Checking Filesystems.  Then it juststops doing anything.  The program responds to clicks.  I can Cancel it.  But no install and no CD or HDD access.  Any ideas?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> kaddi,  ya could look at  /var/lib/vim/addons/plugin/remoteOpen.vim: line 37:E174: Command already exists: add ! to replace it
[01:37] <Dr_willis> and see whats on like 37 :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> sounds like its  including somthing thats allready been included
[01:37] <kaddi> i'll just go for it.. I made a backup of .vim and hope that all the important files wil be in there :)
[01:37] <kubuntu-user> BentFrank: I've had this issue before. Just leave the system un-interrupted. Eventually it will bring up 4-6. Probably it is takign longer time to figure out file system.
[01:38] <kubuntu-user> it took me around 15-20 mins to go from 3-6 to 4-6 dialog...
[01:38] <BentFrank> System is Athlon 1800, 500 MB RAM, one 20GB HDD.  Motherboard is M7VIW.
[01:38] <kaddi> nothing i'd understand, but maybe you can make something out of it:
[01:39] <kaddi> 37 com -nargs=1 RemoteOpen :call RemoteOpen('<args>')
[01:39] <BentFrank> Kubuntu-user:  How long is eventually?  It's been 30 minutes.
[01:39] <kaddi> what does the E174 mean?
[01:40] <kubuntu-user> I think I waited around same time..
[01:40] <BentFrank> Maybe the HDD is going.  There is an old Windows 3000 system on it now and it was having troubles toward the end.
[01:40] <BentFrank> er 2000
[01:40] <kubuntu-user> may be you can leave it some more time ..
[01:41] <BentFrank> I think I'll try swappign the drive and see.  If that doesnt work i'll let the install run overnight.
[01:42] <BentFrank> Thanks, kubuntu-user
[01:42] <kubuntu-user> no worries.
[01:43] <kubuntu-user> does anybody know how to see knetworkmanager logs? I'm trying to see why my T41 is not connecting to WAP..
[01:45] <Dr_willis> wireless can be such a pain. :(
[01:45] <kubuntu-user> tell me about it..
[01:45] <Dr_willis> either it works for me.. or its totally  unuseable. :) but now a days on my 3 wireelss machines.. it all works.
[01:47] <xerosis> kubuntu-user: run it from the terminal
[01:48] <kubuntu-user> I tried it.. it prints a whole bunch of messages..
[01:48] <xerosis> that's what you're after no? ;)
[01:49] <kaddi> uninstalling worked.. :) everything seems to be as it used to be and my settings are still there \o
[01:49] <kaddi> thanks :)
[01:49] <kubuntu-user> but it doesn't print anything destriptive..
[01:49] <kaddi> @dr_willis :)
[01:49] <kubuntu-user> I'll look more in detail..
[01:49] <kubuntu-user> thanks. I have to leave now.. I'll try loggin in later..
[01:51] <Dr_willis> kaddi,  isent the pacage manageing system amazing! :)
[01:52] <Dr_willis> !info menu
[01:52] <kaddi> dr_willis : it definitely is. :) never would have thought that it would keep my previous settings
[01:52] <Dr_willis> kaddi,  its gnu-riffic!
[01:52] <kaddi> :D
[01:53] <Roey> (wrt kde 4.0) instead of KDEstrophic?
[01:59] <Qb_Master> hey i'm trying to install kubuntu on the latest version of parallels, and it installs fine but upon trying to log in, it logs in then returns to the gui login screen...what's goin on here?
[02:02] <Qb_Master> I get a glimpse of the desktop which looks kinda screwed up then it goes back to the login screen
[02:05] <kaddi> i'd guess that your x-server is doing a runner.. try typing ctrl-alt-f1 when you get to the login screen and see if you can log in in the command line
[02:05] <Qb_Master> yeah it logs in at the command line
[02:05] <kaddi> what happens if you try starting kdm from the commandline?
[02:05] <Qb_Master> how do I do that?
[02:06] <fliegenderfrosch> Qb_Master: /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:06] <Dr_willis> sudo may be needed
[02:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:06] <Qb_Master> "Starting K Display manager: kdm already running"
[02:07] <Dr_willis> /etc/init.d/kdm stop or start, or restart :)
[02:08] <Qb_Master> k that brought me back to the gui login screen, let's see what happens this time
[02:08] <fliegenderfrosch> kaddi, Dr_willis: it seems that his kdm and xserver are starting fine, but kde itself doesn’t
[02:09] <Qb_Master> yeah it goes through the loading process again, I see the desktop which looks screwed up and it goes back to login again
[02:10] <Qb_Master> h/o i'll try to get a screenshot
[02:12] <Qb_Master> http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1160/kubuntuparallelsglitchymi2.jpg
[02:12] <fliegenderfrosch> Qb_Master: I guess there are no old KDE configs which could cause tit to fail....
[02:12] <Qb_Master> that's what the desktop looks like upon loading, for like 3 seconds before it returns to login
[02:12] <Qb_Master> hmm
[02:13] <fliegenderfrosch> Qb_Master: you could try upgrading to kde 4.2 RC and look if the problem still exists
[02:15] <Qb_Master> hm lemme look into it
[02:15] <Qb_Master> how do I do that? xD
[02:15] <Qb_Master> sorry I'm fairly noobish in linux, I've only dabbled with it
[02:16] <Qb_Master> I expect to use it more now that I have it running in a virtual desktop :)
[02:17] <Qb_Master> it might be a problem with parallels...I might try VMWare next
[02:18] <fliegenderfrosch> Qb_Master: you could also try virtualbox
[02:19] <Qb_Master> k thx I didn't know of that one :)
[02:19] <hagabaka> is amarok 2 going in official repository?
[02:23] <Qb_Master> k trying virtualbox
[02:23] <Qb_Master> parallels might just be a POS
[02:23] <Qb_Master> :p
[02:23] <[mors]> I folks
[02:23] <[mors]> **hi
[02:24] <Qb_Master> ey
[02:25] <[mors]> will kde4.2 ever make it to intreid repos ?
[02:25] <[mors]> **intrepid
[02:26] <Dr_willis> backports i imagine
[02:26] <Dr_willis> unoffical repos. :)
[02:26] <[mors]> hum
[02:27] <[mors]> I saw the instructions to install it on intrepid, but it required adding the kubuntu-experimental repository... but that repository has other non-kde packages as well, right ?
[02:27] <hagabaka> i hate that part about ppa repositories
[02:28] <JontheEchidna> it won't upgrade anything that doesn't need upgraded for KDE 4.2 to work
[02:29] <[mors]> how do you compare koffice against open office ?
[02:33] <Qb_Master> hm interesting, the install process looks different in virtualbox than it did in parallels
[02:34] <Qb_Master> o wait nvm
[02:35] <Qb_Master> lol yay 3rd time trying to install
[02:36] <[mors]> foilks, why did canonical choose gnome for their main distro ?
[02:36] <[mors]> kubuntu feels like a 2nd class citizen.... :/
[02:37] <[mors]> but I prefer kde by leaps and bounds
[02:37]  * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[02:38] <Qb_Master> someone should make a distro of linux that runs itself in its own virtual desktop software that can be installed and run directly from windows or other OSes
[02:40] <Qb_Master> I always liked the idea of using linux but being able to switch to windows (for gaming and the like) without rebooting :D
[02:46] <runpain2> How to find out about system i am runing in termanel
[02:53] <Qb_Master> hm, why does the installer take forever to 'scan the mirror'?
[02:54] <Qb_Master> if it doesn't soon ima have to disable the network so it times out
[02:55] <Qb_Master> ah there it goes
[03:01] <Dr_willis> servers may be slow
[03:03] <Qb_Master> ah virtualbox worked :)
[03:03] <Qb_Master> it's parallel's fault
[03:08] <Qb_Master> hm well now I can't choose a resolution bigger than 800x600 tho
[03:09] <Qb_Master> xD I always have so many problems right off the bat
[03:12] <Qb_Master> -_-
[03:30] <Qb_Master> I am having way too many problems with this
[03:33] <Qb_Master> and I'll deal with them when I'm alert enough to stay awake...
[03:33] <Qb_Master> lol
[03:33] <Qb_Master> bbl
[03:51] <epimeth> anybody using RC1?
[04:01] <Dolo> i have a portable mac drive but i cant copy files to it cuz it says i dont have permission?
[04:06] <BlueEagle> sparr: Ok.
[04:06] <BlueEagle> sparr: I've got a 105-key keyboard.
[04:08] <epimeth> Dolo: well you probably don't have permission :-)
[04:09] <epimeth> Dolo: is it brand new?
[04:18] <epimeth> I've never seen it so quiet in here....
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Shhhhhh
[04:26] <DaSkreech> It's the anticipation for 4.2
[04:30] <qcjn> hey, i'm reading to understand about skype or something similar, or not !!! because really, what i'd like is something i could "voice chat" using my bluetooth "that i don't use for my cell phone, cause i don't use my cellphone ? any suggestion ?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> qcjn: You want to use your phone to caht?
[04:31] <Omikane> I just installed a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) and my conn is at 1mps and I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853942 but the only thing that was on the page was exit0. I tried of series of variations with or without exit0 and restarted my conn and it is still at 1mps. Any ideas?
[04:32] <qcjn> DaSkreech: no, i've heard we could use an app, like skype with the bluetooth that we use for the cell phone
[04:33] <DaSkreech> If it's an app I don' see why you need the bluetooth
[04:34] <qcjn> DaSkreech: The thing you put in your ear when you're driving a car , for cellphones?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Oh you want to use it as a microphone
[04:35] <qcjn> yes
[04:35] <qcjn> so you can walk in the house and speak !
[04:36] <Sophty> Hey. This is only tangently related to Kubuntu, but... how do I get/enable the ipfilter in ktorrent?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> !bluetooth
[04:37] <DaSkreech> And there is an app I think called blueradar
[04:37] <qcjn> ok, thanks, i ll look at that :)
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Sophty: For the firewall?
[04:37] <Sophty> I guess you could call it a firewall.
[04:38] <DaSkreech> !iptables
[04:38] <Omikane> I just installed a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) and my conn is at 1mps and I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853942 but the only thing that was on the page was exit0. I tried of series of variations with or without exit0 and restarted my conn and it is still at 1mps. Any ideas?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Is it some hard limit if 1 MBs?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Like it gets there pretty fast then stops
[04:40] <Omikane> no never getsfast
[04:40] <Omikane> always at 1mps under conn info
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Have you tested it to see if thats' true
[04:44] <Omikane> yeah, it's not a hard 1mps but where abouts
[04:44] <Sophty> I don't think iptables is what I'm looking for.
[04:44] <Sophty> Unless I'd do something further to adapt iptables to my use, which is then my question.
[04:52] <Omikane_> yeah no clue why
[05:00] <snarkster> can anyone assist with atheros 242x
[05:34] <Bsims> I am trying to update my apt list for KDE Nightly neon I have the correct key installed but I still get W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 778978B00F7992B0
[05:37] <stdin> Bsims: you need to do "gpg --export -a 0F7992B0 | sudo apt-key add -"
[05:38] <Bsims> thanks stdin I'll give that a try
[05:39] <DarkTerror> hello... does kubuntu support wireless connections better and easier (interface and installation wise) THAN ubuntu ? (both last versions)
[05:40] <Bsims> Anyone know if there will be unofficial kde3 packages for jaunty? I am sorry but kde4 gives me hives
[05:41] <stdin> DarkTerror: they both use the same backend (NetworkManager) just different frontends
[05:42] <stdin> Bsims: that would depend on if the person who makes the packages wants to do it
[05:42]  * Bsims nods fair enough I am using the ones from pierson computing but its been offline for a while
[05:42] <DarkTerror> thx stdout
[05:43] <Souper> I'm trying to upgrade to current a fresh install from an 8.04 beta disc and using adept and when preconfigureing starts it it stays at 0% forever, at configuring kdm, dpkg-preconfigure's child goes zombie
[05:43]  * Bsims laughs building kde from source sucks
[05:43] <Bsims> Souper: scrap the qui once it's updated your sources, and follow the commands for a server update
[05:44] <kalorin__> does anyone else have trouble with their nvidia card not putting monitors into DPMS power saving mode?
[05:44] <kalorin__> I come down and my screens are blanked but the backlights are staying on
[05:44] <kalorin__> and they're fairly new flat panels
[05:44] <kalorin__> sometimes it does it right, but likely about 65-70% of the time they're just glowing black
[05:46] <Souper> that happens 100% of the time with my laptop
[05:47] <kalorin_> I don't get that
[05:47] <kalorin_> like why it's so hard to time out monitors
[05:47] <kalorin_> I woudl think it would just "work"
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Bsims: Don't want to help package KDE3? :)
[05:48]  * Bsims grins my skills are limited
[05:48]  * Bsims laughs tried my usual dpkg -r trick and it needs more 
[05:50]  * Bsims grins debating going back to Mother Debian and her wacky son Sid
[05:50] <Bsims> Been over five years, I'd miss the polish
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Bsims: Skills are irrelevant :-) Willingness is relevant
[05:52]  * Bsims grins you will be absorbed into the collective?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> By choice
[05:53] <Bsims> DaSkreech: lets put it this way I got started on Debian Potato
[05:54] <DaSkreech> And you would like KDE3 :-)
[05:54] <Bsims> DaSkreech: its currently more stable and I configred it to my tastes years ago
[05:55]  * DaSkreech nods. So would you like to help package it?
[05:55] <Bsims> Well I've never built a multi-package deb and can't find any good tutorials on it
[05:55] <Bsims> the Debian New Maintainers guide is lacking there
[05:56] <DaSkreech> The #kubuntu-devel room is a good guide :)
[05:56] <DaSkreech> As I said basically you need Willingness and either a CPU that warms up or a net connection
[05:57]  * Bsims nods I may wander over there... Idealy I'd turn a script loose on it and it craps out a folder of debs
[05:57]  * DaSkreech nods. Yes sir
[05:57]  * Bsims grins willing, single core machine but my connection is fast and my storage exceeds a TB
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Great :_
[05:57] <DaSkreech> :_)
[05:58]  * Bsims can't beleve how cheap drives are now 
[05:58] <Bsims> I bought a 1TB drive for less than 150
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah Crazy huh?
[05:59]  * Bsims grins when I got started my first computer had a .9mhz proccessor I beleve 14k of ram and used audio cassette as main storage
[05:59] <xanax`> soon or later, we'll all have SSD
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Sooner or later we'll have Data synthesizing food for us even though he doesn't know waht it tastes like because he wants to be more human
[06:00] <Bsims> xanax`: that musical card you threw away last week... was the entire global computer power when we designed the atom bomb... your current desktop is probably 80-90% of global computer power less than 30 years ago
[06:01] <xanax`> i know.. i know.
[06:01]  * DaSkreech reads that as "Moar graphix in Gamezzz"
[06:02]  * Bsims giggles If I could borrow a tardis... I'd bring a modern beastly box running Linux with sources and drop it off at UC Berkley in the 70's
[06:02] <xanax`> it will be fun to be there when CPUs won't be able to be miniaturized any more
[06:02] <Bsims> and another one would be handed to a hippie named Stallman
[06:02] <Bsims> on the east coast
[06:03] <Souper> damn i should have upgraded the release before i upgraded the packages
[06:03] <DaSkreech> I'd walk into a Godzilla movie and replace it with Jurassic Park if I had a tardis
[06:04]  * Bsims grins nah DaSkreech imagine Stallman or esr with a 2009 current level laptop in the 70's
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Bsims: Richard would probably hurd the computers together
[06:04] <Bsims> and sources for the OS and as much history of processor design as could fit
[06:05]  * Bsims grins and the same given to the BSD folks
[06:05] <Bsims> DaSkreech: Heh wine is past 1.0 Duke nukem and HURD will have to follow
[06:06] <xanax`> do you think Linux will succeed in growing up to 50% (or more) of OSs use, one day ?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> People don't care about OSes they care about Desktop
[06:06] <Bsims> xanax`: eventually probably... Lets face it would you ever have considered anything apple shipped an Offical Unix, certified as such by the Open Group
[06:06]  * stdin points to #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:07] <xanax`> they care about simplicity too.. and Linux has a bad image about this point
[06:07] <Bsims> Yeah I am there too
[06:07] <xanax`> thank you stdin, i didn't even know this channel existed.
[06:07] <Bsims> join me there?
[06:27] <umar> hello any one there help me to how to use ubuntu iam new in ubuntu ?
[06:27] <xanax`> what do you want to know exactly umar ?
[06:28] <umar> I want to know about Player Like vlc and others plus Messengers ?
[06:28] <xanax`> well, you can install vlc if you want. And pidgin too
[06:29] <xanax`> just launch Adept or Synaptic
[06:29] <umar> how can u send me link plzzz
[06:30] <posingaspopular> !install
[06:30] <posingaspopular> hmm thats not right, what is the wiki page for installing packages
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !im
[06:42] <kalorin_> well, i've set this in my .bashrc
[06:42] <kalorin_> # My Own Crap
[06:42] <kalorin_> xset +dpms
[06:42] <kalorin_> xset dpms 600
[06:42] <kalorin_> xset s off
[06:42] <kalorin_> that seems to work
[06:44] <kalorin_> actually that'd be xset dpms 600 700 900
[06:44] <kalorin_> <--- agressive with those settings cause I don't like leaving the LCD's on all the time when I'm not around
[06:44] <kalorin_> it was set to blank earlier which I'm wondering if that might have been what was going on
[06:44] <kalorin_> needs to be set to off not blank
[06:45] <kalorin_> anyway
[06:45] <kalorin_> laters
[06:45] <kalorin_> way too late
[06:55] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:21] <georges> hello
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !hi
[07:23] <georges> I am a new user to Kubuntu
[07:24] <georges> is it possiblie  to run IE7 using WINE on Kubuntu
[07:25] <DaSkreech> georges__: Look for IE4linux
[07:25] <DaSkreech> It's a website
[07:27] <georges_> any     rrecommended ssite for IE4linux?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[07:28] <georges_> thanks DaSkreech
[07:28] <georges_> I'll try it out
[07:29] <georges_> Nothing on IE7 ??
[07:31] <georges_> are there any antivirus solutions for Kubuntu??
[07:31] <JohnFlux> georges_: for what viruses?
[07:31] <JohnFlux> but yeah there are
[07:33] <JohnFlux> georges_: I think most antivirus software for linux is for linux servers, sharing files to windows machines
[07:33] <JohnFlux> so it's antivirus-for-windows running on linux...
[07:36] <georges_> thaanks guys.  see  ya laaater
[07:40] <syockit> ?
[07:45] <syockit> wow thanx. Now I can play that forex game that runs only on ie
[07:45] <syockit> ...wait, does it run ActiveX?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Huh?
[08:11] <ecubuntu> helo here
[08:11] <ecubuntu> i have a problem with my wireless connection
[08:12] <shadeslayer> ecubuntu:state your problem
[08:12] <ecubuntu> i can see my network but i can not connect
[08:12] <ecubuntu> i have mac address filter on my router
[08:13] <ecubuntu> ?
[08:14] <shadeslayer> ecubuntu:wait for a while,somebody will help you
[08:15] <shadeslayer> till then read this
[08:15] <shadeslayer> !wifi
[08:15] <DaSkreech> do you have an IP address?
[08:15] <shadeslayer> and this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/RouterIssues
[08:16] <ecubuntu> what do you mean DaSkreech
[08:33] <ocs_> hi. how can I launch adept-updater manually ? I have erroneusly removed its icon from my panel
[08:34] <jim_p> hi people
[08:35] <jim_p> what is the kde equivalent to cheese?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/cheese
[09:08] <Briareos1> how do i have to form the username for connecting to an FTP server in the address bar IF the username contains an @ ?
[09:11] <Briareos1> okay i found out: need to replace the @ with %40
[09:32]  * fidji ne joue plus au Go
[09:55] <neophytes> Bonjour à tous
[09:56] <SlimeyPete> !french
[09:56] <neophytes> ok, sorry !
[09:57] <SlimeyPete> :)
[10:26] <maxemo> hello every one :)
[10:26] <GSF1200S> hello
[10:26] <maxemo> hru :)
[10:26] <GSF1200S> not many people here atm apparantly...
[10:27] <GSF1200S> aight
[10:27] <maxemo> right:)
[10:27] <maxemo> ht's the firest time using IRC
[10:28] <GSF1200S> you get used to it
[10:28] <integer> Hi all
[10:28] <GSF1200S> ive been using it a while now and i still feel like a noob
[10:28] <GSF1200S> hello
[10:29] <maxemo> why ?
[10:29] <integer> i am on 8.10, how can i enable syntax highliting feature in vim??
[10:30] <maxemo> um using8.10 too but but i can't under stant wt u mean >?<
[10:30] <GSF1200S> maxemo.. haha, theres all types of stuff in irc i dont know
[10:31] <maxemo> yes i dunno :)
[10:32] <maxemo> i've some small problem
[10:33] <maxemo> when i enabel my compiz i found that i've 2 desktop not 4 liek i want
[10:33] <maxemo> on kubuntu
[10:33] <maxemo> like sorry
[10:35] <marek_> hi, after last ugrade, i cannot run lastfm, this is what i get on konsole
[10:35] <marek_> Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[10:37] <Aranel> is kbluetooth4 bugged or something?
[10:39] <Wulong> There is something wrong with it, yes.
[10:40] <Aranel> isnt there any way to send files via bluetooth?
[10:46] <marek_> Aranel yes
[10:46] <marek_> you can try blueman package
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Hey all, If an app window is minimised, does the window get drawn in anticipation of a maximise of is it left undrawn until the maximise
[11:17] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> Hi all. After upgrading to intrepid, the arrow keys on my keyboard as well as insert, delete etc no longer work. If I open up a text login these seem to function okay. any pointers?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: check keyboard settings in systemsettings
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: if its correct, set it to something else, then back
[11:27] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> ActionParsnip, hrm doesn't seem to be doing any good, I'm trying to use UK layout and currently generic 104-key PC is selected, not sure if thats right, my actual keyboard model isn't listed there but I've never had problems in the past
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: check xorg.conf to see what it says about keyboard
[11:41] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> ActionParsnip, hrm has pc104 and gb in there as well, although looking at an old backup file in the X11 directory it seems to be listed as pc105. Setting that in kde doesn't make any difference but if you think its worth it might be worth setting it in the file and restarting x?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: could be a fix, give it a go, just make sure you can rollback if you break stuff
[11:43] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> yeah I'll make a copy before editing it
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: good lad, best way
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: very few people do, then moan when they bork their system
[11:46] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> and then come and shout in here I bet ;)
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: then say Ubuntu sucks
[12:04] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> ActionParsnip, no luck :| weirdly enough though the delete key works on the login screen of kdm, just not once you're logged in
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> hmmm
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> do the keys generate events in xev?
[12:09] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> yeah they do. was just typing in cat actually with them, in a konsole del comes out as ^@ (I'm not sure of my character codes but that doesn't look right)
[12:09] <Guest41546> when I run Armagetron on ubantu 8.1 I get garbbled text.  Any ideas why & how to fix?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> [EGC-i]ThinIce: does it type ok in kate etc?
[12:12] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> yeah in the text only login it comes out as something completely different (which I presume is correct). In kate most of the keyboard works okay, but certain things don't such as insert, delete, arrow keys as with the rest of kde
[12:20] <carmen> ciao
[12:20] <carmen> !list
[12:25] <eagles0513875> carmen: you looking for the italian room
[12:25] <eagles0513875> !it | carmen
[12:28] <multik> g'day all
[12:29] <eagles0513875> g'day
[12:35] <dwidmann> hmm, only 4 more days until shiny lovely kde 4.2
[13:01] <BluesKaj> g'morning
[13:02] <Unggnu> hi all
[13:02] <Unggnu> How can I change the icons from kde 4 network manager and the other systray icons?
[13:15] <isilion_> hi. my screensaver only works in a quarter of the screen. plz help
[13:16] <Dr_willis> cant say that i even bother with screensavers any more these days.. other then to blank/black/dim the screen
[13:18] <aapzak> yeah isilion_ whats up with the screensaver?
[13:18] <aapzak> just blank it
[13:18] <aapzak> :)
[13:18] <isilion_> well
[13:18] <aapzak> sry, your choice of course
[13:18] <isilion_> but i want to use that screensaver :S
[13:18] <isilion_> xd
[13:19] <eagle2000> hi
[13:20] <aapzak> I personally hate screensavers, they're just using power for nothing. In the old days that meant also loud spinning fans.
[13:20] <dmmainou> hi I am having some audio problems with my new mobo. I have some "azalia" drivers for linux that I must install but have no idea how to cansomeone shed me some light, thanks
[13:28] <BluesKaj> dmmainou , azaliz drivers , in what form /file extension ?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> err azalia dmmainou , they seem to be for the realtek soundcard , a very popular make
[13:38] <dmmainou> hi my mobo is a asus p5n7a-vm
[13:38] <breadstic> hey guys, can anyone help me with a problem I'm having... I'm trying to get an app to run on startup as a different user
[13:38] <dmmainou> I'm following the steps outlined in the zip file but having erroers.
[13:38] <Dr_willis> run at user login? or at boot time?
[13:39] <breadstic> at user login... I want to be able to place thh command su -c [program] [user] in a script without being asked to type a password
[13:40] <Dr_willis> Im not even sure su works at all on ubuntu..
[13:40] <Dr_willis> ye it does :) jut tried it..
[13:40] <breadstic> oh, it does, but obviously i can't just have a script running it because i need to type the password
[13:40] <Dr_willis> and it asks for the password of the user you are switching to.
[13:41] <breadstic> yea
[13:41] <breadstic> that's how you get root access ....   sudo su -
[13:41] <Dr_willis>  You could  use sudo I guess. and some how get around that password..
[13:41] <Dr_willis>  do NOT use 'sudo su -' to get a root shell . :) thats not the proper way to do it
[13:41] <breadstic> but I need to type my password in for sudo
[13:41] <breadstic> don't i?
[13:41] <Dr_willis> You can set up sudo to allow specifi commands to be ran by anyone  as root
[13:42] <SlimeyPete> you could set the script as setuid root, but that is something which has to be considered very carefully - it can be dangerous
[13:42] <breadstic> oh, ok, that sounds good
[13:42] <breadstic> yea, i've been trying that, but the program need gtk output, and setuid doesn't allow it
[13:42] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[13:43] <Dr_willis> for a gui app ran by a different user. you most likely will need to also use the 'xhost + localhost' command to allow the other user access to the desktop
[13:43] <noaXess> which service runs for all the keyboard shortcuts?..
[13:43] <noaXess> they stopped working now..
[13:43] <noaXess> eg- ALT+F2
[13:43] <Takahani> Hi, i can't login to mmsn with kopete 0.60.82 on kde 1.96, is this normal ?
[13:44] <Takahani> and is there a workaround ?
[13:44] <breadstic> yep, i use xhost +local: for that
[13:44] <Dr_willis> microsoft likes to change the MSN protocall eveyr so often and break 3rd party IM clients
[13:44] <abdul> good morning
[13:44] <Takahani> afternoon :)
[13:44] <shadeslayer> evening
[13:45] <abdul> hi, im newbie to ubuntu. so far so good.  i need a remote desktop server. so i can view client computers
[13:45] <noaXess> abdul: krdc
[13:45] <abdul> similar to team viewer
[13:45] <noaXess> !krdc | abdul
[13:45] <Dr_willis> abdul,  one is built in to kde and gnome. that uses the vnc protocall :)
[13:45] <noaXess> !info krdc | abdul
[13:46] <noaXess> hey Dr_willis wasup?
[13:46] <abdul> thanks i will try
[13:46] <noaXess> which service i habe to start, if my keyboard shortcuts won't work?
[13:46] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  havin some issues with the nvidia drivers  lately.. not sure whats going on..  Its like they are installed.. but not being used.. and compiz dont want to work..and everything is sluggish
[13:47] <TeLLuS> Trying KDE4.2rc1 in intrepid and get many SIGABRT in korganizer after klicking OK to create a new timeblock. Anyone else get this?   #9  0x00007ff82fd25577 in CollectionFetchJob (cut) at /build/buildd/kdepimlibs-4.1.96/akonadi/collectionfetchjob.cpp:72
[13:47] <noaXess> Dr_willis: have also nvidia.. latest from repo.. have now kde 4.1.96, someties blinking screen, panel blinking or so..
[13:48] <noaXess> now.. now keyboard shortcut works :(.. some service crash.. but which one?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> I used to have it set to show the nvidia Logo.. and thats not even showing at X restart
[13:48] <noaXess> Dr_willis: mine is showing
[13:48] <noaXess> grrrr. ALT+TAB won't work..which service i need to restart to get them working instead of relogin to kde?
[13:50] <aapzak> I think abdul has a totally different view on what clients and servers are
[13:51] <noaXess> what service handle all the keyboard shortcuts?
[13:51] <abdul> aapzak your right i looked at krdc and it's not what i'm looking for
[13:51] <aapzak> :)
[13:51] <aapzak> abdul: tell us, what do you need?
[13:51] <aapzak> krdc is the client
[13:51] <aapzak> meaning, that is the application you use to login to a running terminal server
[13:52] <noaXess> grrr.. kwin uses 30% cpu.. hm kde 4.2 rc1 is buggy
[13:52] <abdul> by the client downloading a small app. java or what ever. he or she chose a user name and pass then give me the control of the computer so i can remotely fix thier problem.
[13:52] <aapzak> yes
[13:53] <Dr_willis> You can set up any vncserver on the remote box and connect to it via any vncclient. :) In theory
[13:53] <aapzak> abdul: in that case you will be the client
[13:53] <abdul> like http://teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[13:53] <Dr_willis> of course vnc is not the best thing to use over the wild and nasty internet. :)
[13:53] <aapzak> abdul: and your client need to be running the vnc or rdc servers
[13:53] <abdul> but i'm not sure of security. i would like to have control if you know what i mean
[13:54] <abdul> yes. but my client are not computer savvy
[13:54] <aapzak> ah
[13:55] <aapzak> so you're looking for a solution in which they can easily handover their desktop to you, without complicated setup on their side
[13:55] <abdul> yes
[13:55] <Dr_willis> with ssh, you could in theory ssh in , start a vncserver.. then connect via vnc.. with them not even looking at the pc. :)
[13:55] <aapzak> your clients, what do they use? windows? osx? linux?
[13:56] <abdul> windows
[13:56] <Dr_willis> problem with remote desktops.. is what do ya do when that part is also crashed. :)
[13:57] <aapzak> I don't know anything about taking over windows machines.
[13:57] <abdul> mostly i would like to show them how to use certain program or so.
[13:57] <aapzak> I don't know anything about windows machines.
[13:57] <aapzak> :)
[13:57] <Dr_willis> vnc, or some how windows hsa some sort of remote-desktop thing.. but ive never used the windows thing. .Just vnc.
[13:58] <Dr_willis> bbl
[13:59] <noaXess> help..
[13:59] <aapzak> I'm sorry abdul , cannot help you further here.
[13:59] <noaXess> no idea which service for keyboard shortcuts?
[13:59] <abdul> guys thanks.
[13:59] <abdul> i got to go to work.
[14:04] <noaXess> no ideas?
[14:05] <aapzak> noaXess: I guess you better restart the beast if you upgraded important parts of KDE.
[14:06] <aapzak> I mean logout, login
[14:17] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. well got the nvidia logo going now.. after reinstalling the nvidia drivers. but compiz is still a nogo
[14:18] <Dr_willis_> but ideentical xorg.conf does work on my live-thimbdrive  i got for emergancies.. with compiz
[14:19] <BluesKaj> got the compiz cube , Dr_willis_ ?
[14:19] <Dr_willis_> got no compiz anything...
[14:19] <Dr_willis_> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Could not acquire compositing manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[14:19] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:20] <Dr_willis_> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[14:20] <Dr_willis_> but IDENTICAL xorg.conf worked on the older install. - which is what is on the thumb drive
[14:20] <Dr_willis_> thumbdrive also has older kenrnel.
[14:21] <Dr_willis_> at least now - the gfx on kde/gnome/other apps are faster,  and not glitzy like they were earlier today
[14:23] <Dr_willis_> well night all - its bed time for me
[14:35] <cuznt> http://www.kbfx.org   is not up? they lose their website? i wanted to get more theames
[14:35] <noaXess> aapzak: kded4 is the solution..
[14:41] <CTShadow> cuznt: http://www.kbfx.net/
[14:41] <cuznt> and the kbfx links to the .org... go figure
[14:41] <cuznt> danks
[14:41] <CTShadow> np
[14:41] <aapzak> noaXess: restarting kded4 solved all your minor problems?
[14:43] <aapzak> anyone know when we can expect 4.2 final? Still running RC1, which irritates me a bit I must say
[14:48] <noaXess> aapzak: jep.. keyboard shortcuts comes back..
[14:48] <noaXess> aapzak: 27th of january :) http://www.kde.org/
[14:48] <aapzak> is that the day we can expect it in Ubuntu as well you think?
[14:49] <aapzak> RC2 should be available already, I believe
[14:49] <noaXess> hm.. the rc1 was at the same time in kubuntu experimental repos as kde published it..
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> there isn't an RC2
[14:50] <aapzak> aight
[14:50] <aapzak> my mistake
[14:50] <Tm_T> aye, no RC2
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> :)
[14:50] <Tm_T> nor will be
[14:50] <Tm_T> atm atleast
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> final release should be the 27th though
[14:51] <Tm_T> should yes and apparently will be too
[14:51] <noaXess> my kwin is eating 30% of my cpu.. any idea why?
[14:52] <Tm_T> noaXess: hmmm, some effects on?
[14:52] <noaXess> some... but wait..
[14:53] <aapzak> kopete takes 20% cpu and 50% mem here.
[14:53] <noaXess> Tm_T: seam a nvidia problem..
[14:53] <Tm_T> noaXess: how so?
[14:53] <Tm_T> noaXess: what driver version?
[14:53] <noaXess> 177
[14:53] <Tm_T> hmm, upgrade?
[14:54] <noaXess> Tm_T: people in kde say that it be a prolbem with nvidia
[14:54] <noaXess> Tm_T: how? combile self?
[14:54] <Tm_T> noaXess: no, it's in intrepid repositories
[14:54] <noaXess> no upgraded version in repos even in unsupported repos
[14:54] <noaXess> ?
[14:54] <noaXess> ok
[14:54] <Tm_T> noaXess: intrepid-updates must be enabled
[14:54] <Tm_T> (as it always must be)
[14:55] <Tm_T> noaXess: I heard our nifty closed drivers installation gui doesn't have it but it's there
[14:56] <noaXess> Tm_T: hm..-
[14:57] <aapzak> why is the cpu and memload on kopete so huge?
[14:57] <Tm_T> aapzak: it usually isn't, perhaps some of the plugins you use?
[14:57] <aapzak> history?
[14:58] <Tm_T> hmm, shouldn't be it
[14:58] <aapzak> I'm using 4 protocols
[14:59] <aapzak> I restarted kopete, big difference. I also switched of stats gathering, looks like a winner to me :)
[14:59] <Tm_T> aapzak: stats indeed, it's, well, evil
[14:59] <noaXess> Tm_T: how to see what nvidia driver is loaded?
[15:00] <noaXess> i have all repos, updates enabled in sources..
[15:00] <JontheEchidna> The stats plugin uses an sqlite database, that's probably what's doing it
[15:01] <aapzak> switched it back on, no load. Lets see what happens ... I'll let it run for now
[15:01] <noaXess> Tm_T: do i need install the latest driver?
[15:01] <noaXess> i mean, instead of upgrading the current 177
[15:02] <Tm_T> noaXess: you need 180 series driver, really
[15:03] <noaXess> Tm_T: ok.. how to upgrade to them, i don't see any in the package list
[15:04] <Tm_T> noaXess: do following in konsole: "grep GLX /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[15:04] <Tm_T> noaXess: first line will contain driver version I believe
[15:05] <noaXess> Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108601/
[15:05] <noaXess> 177.78
[15:05] <noaXess> 177.82.. sorry
[15:05] <Tm_T> aye
[15:06] <Tm_T> noaXess: do this then: "apt-cache search nvidia-glx-180"
[15:07] <noaXess> Tm_T: ok its there.. so apt-get install it..
[15:07] <Tm_T> noaXess: splendid
[15:07] <noaXess> Tm_T: will it be automaticaly uses as default or need i make it as default? with the jockey-kde?
[15:07] <turuburu> hi guys
[15:08] <Tm_T> noaXess: it will be used
[15:08] <turuburu> guidancepowermanager depends on which services? powersaved for example or what?
[15:08] <genii> !hi
[15:08] <Tm_T> hi moocow
[15:08] <noaXess> ok... self explainend.. 177.82 will be removed ;)
[15:08] <turuburu> something i did and i made kdeguidancepwoermanager not to show me options to choose governor
[15:08] <noaXess> yeah... new driver new luck ;)
[15:08] <noaXess> thanks Tm_T
[15:08] <noaXess> 180.11
[15:12] <noaXess> ok.. nvidia 180.11 is on, rebooting... see ya
[15:18] <noaXess> Tm_T: so, nvidia 180.11 is up and running... see whats happend :)
[15:18] <Tm_T> noaXess: good luck
[15:18]  * Tm_T hides
[15:20] <bobleny> Does anyone know the url for downloading ndiswrapper drivers?
[15:20] <bobleny> Everytime I search yahoo, I get a bunch of old links....
[15:25] <aapzak> 
[15:25] <aapzak> ­
[15:25] <aapzak> whats going on
[15:26] <aapzak> ah, keys back o normal
[15:26] <benpicco> I wonder if that's the right place, however, I installed kde4.2rc on kubuntu 8.10, works fine, but automount (of an ext3 volume) is broken, gives an AccessDeniedByPolincy - is there a way to fix it? Mounting it manually everytimes is not that convinient
[15:26] <wesley_> !aptfix
[15:27] <spawn57> hi, does anyone know what konqueror plugin i need that lets konqueror find the feeds on a site?
[15:39] <mapelo> hi everyone!!!
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !hi | mapelo
[15:51] <kz> Hello
[15:52] <kz> I've 2 partitions, Linux and Windows, how can I resize the partitions on my HDD to have only Linux partition and don't lose data?
[15:53] <moocow> kz: first piece of advice:  backup backup backup
[15:53] <moocow> if you don't do that you are really treading some dangerous ground
[15:53] <kz> yes
[15:53] <moocow> once you know you have solid backups, get a live cd and do it that way
[15:53] <moocow> or a live usb disk or something
[15:54] <kz> ok
[15:54] <moocow> gparted, qt, parted should work
[15:54] <kz> I've to run parted on Live CD? or I can run parted using my actual Linux?
[15:55] <moocow> +
[15:55] <kz> ¿?
[15:56] <moocow> yes but how you have your partitions setup it depends on what you can do
[15:56] <moocow> you won't be able to move / for example
[15:58] <kz> ok
[15:58] <kz> then I try a Live CD, thx!
[15:58] <marek_> hi, i wanted to compile one widget
[15:58] <marek_> http://pastebin.com/m2bfb8e9
[15:58] <marek_> here is what i got
[15:58] <marek_> can you help me?
[16:32] <killerwee> Hey there..
[16:32] <killerwee> Can anyone in here help a noob in need...?
[16:33] <killerwee> Anyone??
[16:34] <cuznt> you need to ask the question 1st killerwee
[16:34] <cuznt> we wont know if we can help otherwise
[16:34] <killerwee> ok... :D
[16:34] <killerwee> I can't get sound on kubuntu
[16:35] <cuznt> !sound
[16:35] <cuznt> try that then
[16:35] <cuznt> ;)
[16:35] <killerwee> trying
[16:35] <cuznt> right on
[16:35] <cuznt> it will work
[16:36] <cuznt> what version are you using?
[16:36] <cuznt> i am kde 4.2 RC1
[16:36] <cuznt> mine works great now
[16:36] <cuznt> back in 3.5.x i had to mess with my creative
[16:37] <killerwee> there are nothing like that in the sound system settings
[16:37] <killerwee> all I get is a list of my soundcard...
[16:38] <killerwee> and a button saying add device list to?
[16:41] <Guest61050> hi
[16:41] <Guest61050> I have proble
[16:42] <ubsafder> hello
[16:43] <ubsafder> is there any kde widget  to manage the wifi networks available ?
[16:45] <ubsafder> i tried looking in synaptic  but nothing looked apropriate any sugestion for this issue ? under kde
[16:48] <mehdi_> limeaids
[16:48] <altrortla> azz finally still ME
[17:00] <cuznt> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GSA-E60L&cat=DVD&cpc=DVDbsc    does anyone think this dvd+rw work in kde?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> cuznt, kde has nothing to do with it ...will it work on a Linux OS is the question ..and who knows
[17:03] <cuznt> kde has everything to do with everything on my pc .........                            so there.. :p
[17:04] <BluesKaj> cuznt, kde doesn't determine the the required drivers for hardware on your system
[17:05] <cuznt> i know....
[17:05] <cuznt> and ty
[17:05] <cuznt> i was wearing my kde pride baby
[17:06] <ubsafder> does kubuntu support WPA ?
[17:06]  * BluesKaj shrugs ...running kde4.2 0n my linux partition, right now I'm testing windows 7 
[17:06] <BluesKaj> ubsafder,  yes
[17:07] <BluesKaj> !wifi | ubsafder
[17:08] <cuznt> i am not willing to run a system that takes 16gigs of hard drive to run.
[17:16] <Goan> Hi. Can someone please help me with a little bash script? I want to run a java program after every 15 minutes.
[17:17] <Goan> and append all of the output from each run into a file
[17:19] <noir_lord> Goan, look up cron
[17:20] <Goan> sure, noir_lord
[17:21] <chx> Hi. I am on Hardy. Akregator does not show links for http://.... i need to upon the complete story , very very inconvinient. is there a fix?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> Goan, if you have scipting experience , why not make a bin/sh and place it in init.d ..let it run as a daemon
[17:22] <noir_lord> Goan, it should be simple enough to set up cron to do what you want (by default cron checks every minute to see if any jobs are due to be executed) so you have the resolution you need time wise
[17:30] <BluesKaj> cuznt you're correct about W7, it has a large footprint ...with a few apps added it's almost 15G on this pc
[17:31] <dougl> how long does the installation of 8.10 usually take to 'Checking for packages to remove...' - install seems to be hung, does anyone have any idea?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> dougl, how long now ?
[17:33] <dougl> BluesKaj, been about 10-20 minutes at 95%
[17:35] <dougl> BluesKaj, 96% now so I guess it is not hung :)
[17:35] <BluesKaj> dougl,  just let it go ..it took around 20-30 mins just to remove old packages
[17:36] <dougl> BluesKaj, cool - thanks for the info/peice of mind :)
[17:38] <BluesKaj> dougl, NP ... it's prolly due to kde4 replacing some of the kde3 stuff
[17:46] <kaddi> evening
[17:47] <paolo> hi. I have some problems with audio. I can hear it with the pc speaker, but I can't hear it with headphones. all worked since one day ago, and now I don't understand what has happened. I tried different headphones, but the result is the same
[17:48] <rickest> paolo: when you say pc speaker do you mean the ones plugged into your soundcard or the one inside your computer?
[17:51] <paolo> rickest: the one inside
[17:51] <rickest> paolo: that one really doesn't have anything to do with regular sound; i.e., videos, mp3s, etc.  so your real audio hardware is probably either unrecognized (no driver) or misconfigured
[17:52] <paolo> rickest: I can hear all the audio types with this speaker
[17:54] <rickest> paolo: then I can't help, sorry
[17:55] <paolo> thanks aniway rickest
[17:55] <fernando> 	
[17:56] <fernando> Hey sorry I have a problem with my Canon printer who can help me?
[17:56] <fernando> 	
[17:56] <fernando> Hey sorry I have a problem with my Canon printer who can help me?
[17:56] <fernando_> Hey sorry I have a problem with my Canon printer who can help me?
[17:56] <Dr_willis> gee... you could state the problem...
[17:58] <fernando_> hola disculpen tengo un problema con mi impresora canon quien me puede ayudar?	 	
[17:58] <fernando_> installing the driver pulls me that I lack the library libglib 1.2 but now I have installed
[17:58] <Dr_willis> installing the driver how?
[17:59] <fernando_> 	
[17:59] <fernando_> from the file manager
[17:59] <Dr_willis> you mean the pacakge manager? adept?
[18:00] <fernando_> yes
[18:00] <Dr_willis> !info libglib
[18:00] <Dr_willis> !find libglib
[18:01] <fernando_> 	
[18:01] <fernando_> when you try to install I get the error: dependency is not satisfi: libgblib1.2
[18:01] <fernando_> satisfiable:libglib1.2
[18:02] <fernando_> hee ? can I help me
[18:03] <fernando_> help
[18:03] <fernando_> help me
[18:03] <hyper__ch> bonjour
[18:03] <hyper__ch> fernando_: mind-reading over the internet is not an art many people master
[18:17] <noir_lord> anyone know if there is a package containing the 35 GPL licensed URW fonts? Ive looked but cant find anything with them in
[18:25] <fitoria> Someone knows why when I try to install digikam apt deletes kdeplasma-addons?
[18:30] <tyler_d1> I am trying to change the keyboard shortcuts for amarok on a media keyboard. how is this accomplished?
[18:38] <jenda> ahoj
[18:38] <jenda> poradi mi prosim nekdo s nastavenim skype?
[18:39] <jenda> hi, can someone help me with settings by skype?
[18:42] <cjae> does anyone know if kde-base and such packages are dependent on the 32 bit or 64 bit architechture? like if I have a 64 arch and upgrade kde to 4.2 will I have to have 64 bit packages?
[18:44] <StR|Sangreal> hi... how can i set a shortcut to minimize all windows?
[18:55] <Guest66928> fernando
[19:04] <neothecat> can i synch kalendar (KDE 4.2 RC 2) with google calendars?
[19:04] <hyper__ch> neothecat: yes, you can
[19:05] <neothecat> is it bi-directional?
[19:05] <hyper__ch> neothecat: it is
[19:06] <neothecat> hypet_ch:  thank you very much!
[19:06] <hyper__ch> neothecat: but not on its own
[19:06] <StR|Sangreal> pls how can i setup a keyboard shortcut in K to minimize windows?
[19:06] <hyper__ch> neothecat: you can accomplish it with GCalDaemon
[19:07] <moocow> StR|Sangreal: that must be somewhere in the system settings panel
[19:07] <neothecat> hyper_ch: i will check that out. thanks.
[19:07] <moocow> keyboard and mouse i think and then shortcuts
[19:07] <neothecat> i was also thinking of installing one of the free groupware servers at home.  anybody have any experience/luck with that?
[19:07] <moocow> yep
[19:08] <hyper__ch> neothecat: need a few links on that topic?
[19:08] <astromme> neothecat: I've tried before, it's always a lot of work
[19:08] <moocow> lots of awesomeness out there
[19:08] <moocow> and yes it is a lot of work
[19:08] <neothecat> sure, any information would be very helpful.
[19:08] <moocow> groupware handles some rather broad and deep topics ... its hard to really make it simple
[19:08] <neothecat> so it's not just "sudu aptitude <groupware server>" and it magically works? :)
[19:09] <hyper__ch> neothecat: http://www.chipbennett.net/wordpress/index.php/2008/06/how-to-synchronize-google-calendar-with-kde-pim-part-2/
[19:09] <hyper__ch> neothecat: http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/usage-b.html#offline
[19:09] <hyper__ch> neothecat: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/11/howto-two-way-sync-between-kontact-and-gcal/
[19:09] <elitrou> hi guys
[19:09] <hyper__ch> neothecat: with those links I set it up here
[19:10] <hyper__ch> hi elitrou
[19:10] <elitrou> i need some help with scanner configuration
[19:10] <elitrou> hi hyper
[19:10] <elwood> hi guys, there something in kde to sync a google calendar from web to offline?
[19:11] <hyper__ch> elwood: check the links a few lines up
[19:11] <moocow> hyper__ch to the rescue
[19:11] <moocow> i was about to suggest google it :)
[19:11] <elwood> omg , sorry, i'm blind :)
[19:11] <neothecat> hyper_ch:  thanks a lot.  this is going to help a lot.
[19:12] <moocow> these sorts of questions are all answered by google tho :)
[19:12] <hyper__ch> moocow: you know letmegooglethatforyou.com ?
[19:12] <neothecat> moocow:  well, sometimes i like to get peoples personal experience with dealing with certain issues, or there recommendations
[19:12] <moocow> heh, i heard about that yeah
[19:12] <moocow> neothecat: fair enough
[19:13] <neothecat> because i have spent all afternoons trying to set things up, after trying nth different recommendations online, and none of them worked.
[19:13] <hyper__ch> moocow: just call that page, enter your terms and it will get then a url that you can give to others... even bette, you can also convert it to a tinyurl... then with a flash animation the search terms will be entered and a search will be conducted :)
[19:14] <neothecat> and then you spend a few minutes chatting with someone on irc who went through the same pain as you, and it gets done right away.
[19:14] <hyper__ch> neothecat: gcaldaemon uses java... basicall you create an ical file in which you can save the stuff and that you can then sync with google
[19:14] <neothecat> and that's why i didn't ask for anybody to actually show me how, i just wanted to know someone has successfully done it.  but hyper_ch was nice enough to hold my hand anyway :)
[19:15] <moocow> hyper__ch: or i can do what i usually do to get my self banned ... abuse the users
[19:15] <moocow> hehehe
[19:15] <moocow> :)
[19:15] <hyper__ch> neothecat: well, it took me quite a while to find that
[19:17] <benpicco> Hi, my gamepad get's recognized as a mouse instead of a gamepad - and behaves just like one, except that none of the buttons nor the second anolog stick works any longer
[19:17] <jenda> poradi mi prosim nekdo s nastavenim skype?
[19:17] <jenda>  hi, can someone help me with settings by skype?
[19:18] <hyper__ch> jenda: maybe
[19:18] <hyper__ch> jenda: no private query
[19:18] <hyper__ch> jenda: one more message in private query and you're on my ignore list
[19:19] <hyper__ch> jenda: you're now on my ignore list
[19:20] <RurouniJones> !cz | jenda
[19:20] <jenda> hyper: thx for you great support...
[19:21] <jenda> hyper: I love such assholes as you...
[19:21] <elitrou> jenda: no need to be rude
[19:21] <RurouniJones> Kepp that up and you will get kicked from the channel
[19:22] <jenda> elitrou: I' m not angry, but when I ask for help, I write someone a PM and he add me on ignore list is it normal?
[19:22] <RurouniJones> Yes
[19:22] <jenda> i don't think so...
[19:22] <StR|Sangreal> kľud jenda
[19:22] <StR|Sangreal> asi ti nevie nik pomäcť
[19:22] <StR|Sangreal> pomôcť
[19:22] <RurouniJones> Get used to it, it is the standard on help channels. We are not personal tutors, ask teh question in the channel and expect hellp in the channel
[19:22] <RurouniJones> Asking a proper question is a good start
[19:23] <j3frea> hi all, can anyone tell me if there will be an incremental update for kde 4.2 from the rc...
[19:23] <RurouniJones> Or go to the #ubuntu-cz chanel and ask in your native language if English is an issue
[19:23] <jenda> I've wrote him PM after he wrote me maybe!
[19:23] <jenda> I'm already on ubuntu, because you're a little bit crazy
[19:23] <hyper__ch> j3frea: you're using ppa repos?
[19:23] <StR|Sangreal> ale no neurážaj
[19:23] <RurouniJones> Then he was being nice, most people ignore PMs from people asking for help
[19:23] <RurouniJones> And if you stilll want help then ask the question again with some information
[19:23] <j3frea> hyper__ch: i havent updated yet - i'm not phased
[19:24] <jenda> str: kokoti, nic jinyho... se vsadim ze to je Madar :-)
[19:24] <RurouniJones> Like what the problem is, why it isn't working, what you want to do etc.
[19:24] <j3frea> hyper__ch: in other words I havent set it up but im willing to
[19:24] <hyper__ch> j3frea: where do you have then RC from? 8.10 does not ship RC
[19:24] <j3frea> hyper__ch: i dont have the rc yet - i would use the ppa to get it though
[19:24] <hyper__ch> j3frea: well, upgrade will be incremental.... but at lot of basic things have changed from 4.1 to 4.2 RC
[19:25] <j3frea> hyper__ch: ya, i wont have a good connection from monday onwards so im wondering whether id have to get 4.2 entirely or whether it would be a smaller update if i already had the rc
[19:25] <j3frea> hyper__ch: so im deciding whether or not to get the rc
[19:26] <hyper__ch> j3frea: updates will be smaller on each "upgrade" but overall you will download more stuff
[19:26] <elitrou> jenda: he asked you politely enough to ask him in the common room, not in the private...
[19:26] <j3frea> hyper__ch: right now i can download a lot - it is more whether i will need to download a lot when 4.2 actually comes out
[19:27] <hyper__ch> j3frea: I mean if you upgrade to rc now and later to stable then, with both upgrades combined, you will ahve downloaded more
[19:27] <hyper__ch> j3frea: compared to if you just upgrade from 4.1 to 4.2 stable
[19:28] <j3frea> hyper__ch: but if i download rc now then the stable 4.2 will be less right?
[19:28] <hyper__ch> j3frea: yes
[19:28] <j3frea> hyper__ch: the reason is that I will not have a good connection soon so i want to save on future downloads
[19:28] <hyper__ch> j3frea: not having a good connectino sux :(
[19:29] <j3frea> hyper__ch: tell me about it - im in south africa
[19:29] <j3frea> ﻿hyper__ch: and are you sure that there will be an incremental update? on #kde they said that there would not be although i realise that kubuntu does stuff on their own
[19:29] <hyper__ch> j3frea: ask Mark to build a 1GB dedicated line for you :)
[19:29] <j3frea> hyper__ch: okay...
[19:29] <j3frea> hyper__ch: what's his nick ? :D
[19:29] <hyper__ch> j3frea: well, there won't be any 4.2 for Kubuntu 8.10
[19:29] <hyper__ch> j3frea: but the PPA will very likely upgrade
[19:30] <hyper__ch> j3frea: so it will be incremental
[19:30] <hyper__ch> j3frea: not sure about 9.04
[19:30] <j3frea> hyper__ch: okay - then that's awesome...
[19:30] <j3frea> hyper__ch: as far as i know 9.04 plans to include 4.2
[19:30] <hyper__ch> j3frea: haven't tried it yet...
[19:30] <j3frea> hyper__ch: rc or kde4?
[19:31] <hyper__ch> j3frea: 9.04
[19:31] <hyper__ch> j3frea: will probably install it next weekend
[19:32] <j3frea> oh - isnt it scheduled for april
[19:32] <hyper__ch> j3frea: alpha versions are out
[19:33] <ryan-c> RIAD0 read performance is much faster than RAID1, right?
[19:33] <j3frea> hyper__ch: not really a bleeding edge type of guy - with a poor con you cant really afford to be...
[19:33] <hyper__ch> j3frea: :)
[19:33] <j3frea> hyper__ch: :(
[19:33] <hyper__ch> j3frea: I like getting daily updates :) that's why I use amaork neon
[19:33] <j3frea> hyper__ch: tell me again what mark's nick is :D
[19:34] <StR|Sangreal> !microphone
[19:34] <hyper__ch> j3frea: no clue....
[19:34] <StR|Sangreal> !audio input
[19:34] <hyper__ch> j3frea: I don't think he's on the in here
[19:34] <j3frea> hyper__ch: ahh, now what's a guy to do
[19:34] <j3frea> hyper__ch: no hope...
[19:34] <j3frea> StR|Sangreal: what is your problem?
[19:34] <hyper__ch> j3frea: :(
[19:35] <j3frea> hyper__ch: ja well... maybe one day they'll get jacked up here and i'll also run amarok neon (at least I do have amarok 2)
[19:36] <hyper__ch> j3frea: amarok neon is a nightly updated package from svn
[19:36] <j3frea> hyper__ch: what does help with a slower con is that you make sure you make it count - for example you say amarok rather than "amaork" :P
[19:36] <hyper__ch> j3frea: provided by apachelogger
[19:36] <j3frea> hyper__ch: figured it was a nightly
[19:36] <hyper__ch> j3frea: btw, a nice little page:  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[19:37] <j3frea> hyper__ch: kk, thanks for the info - appreciate the help and I'm having a look at the page - ta...
[19:37] <j3frea> hyper__ch: gtg
[19:37] <hyper__ch> j3frea: cya
[19:43] <ubsafder> how do i find what package would provide gd.h ?
[19:44] <JontheEchidna> !find gd.h
[19:45] <ubsafder> i have the lib installed but i don't have the header
[19:45] <cjae> Hi, I have kubuntu 8.10 and edited sources to deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main and while downloading it installed mysql (which I do not need) and several other things I do not need but primarily I stopped the install at ttf-dejavu and ttf-dejavu-extra and did not install the packages following that package, it says to dpkg --configure -a amd apt-get -f install which both fail at said packages, what
[19:45] <cjae> is onw to do? and what are those packages for?
[19:46] <cjae> I did the upgrade for fixes for multiple monitors
[19:46] <cjae> s/onw/one
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> ubsafder: you'd want the -dev package of the lib
[19:48] <sin> Hello! I downloaded and burned a Kubuntu live-CD. When I boot my PC up with it, it gives me the languages choice and the menu, but when I press enter to choose something, it locks up. What can I do ?
[19:49] <StR|Sangreal> please, my vlc/kaffeine flickers on playing. how can i fix it?
[19:49] <ubsafder> ok but can't find the package of the lib
[19:49] <cjae> sin: check the disc integrity
[19:49] <sin> cjae: "Check CD for defects" locks up as well.
[19:51] <cjae> sin: must be bad disc, check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[19:52] <ubsafder> as i could not find what package profided libgd.so.2 i am loking to learn to find package by their file contents
[19:54] <ubsafder> i know i want gd.h for the lib i have already installed
[19:55] <stdin> ubsafder: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has a search field for that, neer the bottom of the page
[19:55] <cjae> anybody using kde 4.2
[19:58] <TeLLuS> rc1
[20:00] <brandon__> Hey all! I have just installed Kubuntux86_64 KDE. my only problem is the bootloader (GRUB) did not add Vista properly. Can anyone tell me what I need to change in grub to get vista to boot as well?
[20:00] <stdin> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[20:00] <StR|Sangreal> please, i need a foccused help on my video/display/graphic/microphone
[20:01] <StR|Sangreal> i was trying to read walkthroughs and tutorials but didnt succeed
[20:01] <StR|Sangreal> is there sb to help me please?
[20:03] <ghostcube> StR|Sangreal, the flickering in vlc can maybe disabled by setting the video output from xv to x11
[20:03] <StR|Sangreal> how, where?
[20:03] <ghostcube> open vlc
[20:03] <ghostcube> settings > video
[20:03] <StR|Sangreal> the whole window except the headder starts flickering on play
[20:04] <ghostcube> what video output are you running in vlc now ?
[20:06] <StR|Sangreal> default
[20:07] <ghostcube> change to X11
[20:07] <StR|Sangreal> the clip window didnt open
[20:08] <ghostcube> no vid with x11?
[20:08] <StR|Sangreal> none
[20:08] <ghostcube> change it to Xvideo
[20:10] <StR|Sangreal> yet no video opens on any choice
 I have tried this and it is not solving my problem. If you can help me, I will tell you what I have and see if you can guide me
[20:13] <hyper__ch> brandon__: isn't it enough to boot vista in a vm?
[20:13] <kon> :o theres a #kubuntu, nice
[20:14] <brandon__> I have had vista for a while and i have to use it for work.
[20:14] <hyper__ch> kon: that's not the #kubuntu you are looking for *makes jedi mind trick*
[20:14] <hyper__ch> brandon__: poor you :(
[20:14] <kon> :P
[20:14] <kon> I just installed kubuntu on my MacBook Pro
[20:14] <ghostcube> StR|Sangreal, what video card is this
[20:14] <kon> Runs so nice
[20:14] <StR|Sangreal> ok it seems like vlc doesnt open any video track anymore (just changed the output mode from default to x11)
[20:15] <hyper__ch> kon: I'd even suggest to update it to 4.2 rc
[20:15] <kon> only issue is see is the Application Loader, it keeps shutting down on me :(
[20:15] <brandon__> LOOK I came here for help but if you just want to antagonize me than to hell with you
[20:15] <hyper__ch> kon: you might want to try to upgrade it - maybe that helps
[20:15] <StR|Sangreal> kaffeine still opens but flickers all around except the upper header
[20:15] <kon> hyper__ch: I think i will
[20:15] <StR|Sangreal> the menu bar as well and all the context menu
[20:15] <hyper__ch> kon: :)
[20:15] <brandon__> I'll try a different distro.
[20:15] <StR|Sangreal> and my card is ati mobility radeon x1450
[20:16] <ghostcube> the normal ati drivers or fglrx ?
[20:16] <kon> Does GimpShop run on kubuntu?
[20:16] <StR|Sangreal> no clue
[20:16] <stdin> hyper__ch: don't antagonise users
[20:16] <StR|Sangreal>  i installed the closed thirdparty driver offered by the system
[20:16] <StR|Sangreal> and nothing else
[20:16] <hyper__ch> stdin: if you'd explain to me what "antagonise" means
[20:16] <ghostcube> hmm ok so fglrx
[20:17] <ghostcube> StR|Sangreal, havew u tried restarting vlc or using mplayer ?
[20:18] <hyper__ch> stdin_: if you'd explain to me what "antagonise" means
[20:18] <stdin> hyper__ch: if you can't help someone, replying with "pore you :(" does not help
[20:18] <kon> never mind, i found gimp on the app loader
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antagonize
[20:19] <hyper__ch> stdin: well, he was given already the correct link above.. at least that's what my backlog says
[20:20] <stdin> hyper__ch: and that excuses you?
[20:20] <hyper__ch> hmmm. antagonize"to make hostile"... having pity with someone is making hostile... interesting interpretation
[20:20] <lokpest> why do I not have a /~.bashrc ?
[20:20] <kon> Bash.org Getting a random quote from bash.org, Please wait..
[20:20] <kon> Bash.org - #958 Quote: (heck01) i sometimes dont know if i'm straight or not, then a cute girl sits down next to me and i get a huge erection and i remember
[20:20] <kon> Opps
[20:20] <kon> sorry
[20:20] <kon> remotes off
[20:20] <kon> * Remote is off
[20:20] <kon> :)
[20:21] <hyper__ch> lokpest: because it's ~/.bashrc
[20:21] <lokpest> hyper__ch: that was what I ment, dont have that either
[20:22] <leif> hey thanx for the bedst gui ever
[20:22] <hyper__ch> stdin: well, actually I think it does
[20:23] <brandon__> thank you <stdin>
[20:23] <hyper__ch> stdin: wow, getting kicked for that
[20:23] <stdin> !guidlines
[20:23] <stdin> !guidelines
[20:23] <stdin> I suggest you read that
[20:23] <hyper__ch> stdin: why?
[20:24] <stdin> because those are the rules of this channel
[20:24] <hyper__ch> stdin: getting kicked for having sympathies with someone... that's really against the rules
[20:24] <StR|Sangreal> sorry i had to restart my xserver
[20:24] <brandon__> I am haveing a problem finding my vista partition number.
[20:24] <hyper__ch> stdin: and if that's against the rules then it's not my place to be here
[20:24] <StR|Sangreal> so what should i do about my graphics troubles?
[20:25] <kon> i keep getting this error on a new install
[20:25] <stdin> brandon__: anyway, I think you need to add something to vista to get it working. did you see the "External Links" at the bottom of the page I gave you?
[20:25] <kon> "no rrot system is defined"
[20:25] <kon> anyone know what that is?
[20:25] <kon> root*
[20:25] <ghostcube> StR|Sangreal, have u tried mplayer ?
[20:26] <brandon__> how do I get back into vista?
[20:26] <StR|Sangreal> i mean often some popups are black or flickering, some graphical effects are malfunctioning and any attempt to open video file with vlc, kaffeine, mplayer ends in either freezing of the software or it opens on the top of the desktop and cant be controlled much and some 60% of frames are black only
[20:26] <kon> StR|Sangreal: Might be the wrong driver for your video card?
[20:27] <kon> or outdated
[20:27] <ghostcube> StR|Sangreal, sounds like a driver problem  on youre system and xard you dont need the closed drivers
[20:27] <ghostcube> the opensource ones would work fine
yes I saw those links, but they all seem to be refferring to before hand and not after the fact
[20:28] <stdin> brandon__: does your system have a "restore" feature? It's sometimes shows before grub, like "F11 System Restore". It doesn't matter in what order you installed, as long as you setup grub last. or restore the windows bootloader and then grub
[20:30] <stdin> brandon__: if you have the install CD/DVD there is an advanced/other
[20:30] <stdin>  options section. Within it are options to run a startup repair
[20:33] <brandon__> ok will try thanks
[20:33] <snake> hi all
[20:35] <cjae> what is ttf-dejavu?
[20:36] <cjae> !ttf-dejavu
[20:36] <cjae> !ttf
[20:36] <cjae> ms font will ot install wither
[20:36] <cjae> either
[20:37] <vincenzo_> hello
[20:39] <vincenzo_> none???
[20:40] <airton> hello!
[20:41] <airton> alguém aí fala português?
[20:44] <stdin_> !pt | airton
[20:45] <airton> blz!
[20:48] <lokpest> who do I not have a ~/.bashrc
[20:49] <tyler_d1> add another user and steal it from that one
[20:49] <blackflag> !radius
[20:49] <lokpest> tyler_d1: why?
[20:50] <lokpest> tyler_d1: if I didnt get one, why should the new one get one?
[20:51] <stdin> lokpest: why are you asking then?
[20:51] <lokpest> stdin: because I dont have a ~/.bashrc
[20:52] <stdin> well, you or something else would have deleted it, it's there by default (coppied from /etc/skel)
[20:54] <lokpest> stdin: nope, never was there from the begining... think a saw a bugreport about it
[20:55] <stdin> then you know the reason
[20:55] <lokpest> I just want to know how I get one! :)
[20:55] <stdin> copy it from /etc/skel
[20:56] <adz21c> Hi, when I try to send a signed email it immediately says I put in a badpassphrase ... but I didn't get chance to enter one. Any ideas how to solve this? (kmail kde4.2rc1)
[20:56] <StR|Sangreal> ok i have removed the proprietary software
[20:56] <StR|Sangreal> for graphic controlling
[20:56] <StR|Sangreal> and reinstalled one package mentioned in the tutorial
[20:57] <StR|Sangreal> no video software responses on my video now
[20:57] <snake_> lokpest: use "ls -a ~" to see if you have it, because it's a hidden file.
[20:58] <dougl> I cannot seem to install my nvidia drivers on my hardware (amd athlon 32bit/512 w/fx5700)... log = nvidia.ko failed to build!
[20:58] <lokpest> snake_: I know that :)
[20:58] <snake_> ok
[20:58] <lokpest> so, now I should have one..
[21:00] <lokpest> ah good, now I can play with aliases :---)
[21:04] <wes_> is kubuntu better than opensuse?
[21:05] <lokpest> "better" is only poosible to determine in a specific enviroment
[21:05] <lokpest> possible*
[21:05] <cuznt> i certainly like it
[21:06] <cuznt> it works great on my pc and i had to start veryvery little linux knowledge
[21:06] <wes_> like? kubuntu "ubuntu" or suse? kde or gnome?
[21:06] <cuznt> kde
[21:06] <cuznt> kubuntu 4.2 RC1
[21:07] <wes_> iv been using ubuntu for 3 years. iv alwaysed used gnome as my environment. but kde 4 has me wanting to try it. but i hear the new opensuse 11 is pretty nice
[21:08] <cuznt> no idea about open suse.
[21:08] <cuznt> i started on the recommendation of a peep on furthurnet.org
[21:08] <cuznt> lost my windowz lic when my processor and mother board crapped the cookie
[21:09] <wes_> windows sucks. stick with linux
[21:09] <cuznt> well i know that now
[21:10] <cuznt> i dig kubuntu
[21:10] <GSF1200S> even if windows was better design wise (which it isnt), based on principle Linux will always be superior
[21:10] <cuznt> if i could get my webcam to work, everything will be just exactly perfect
[21:11] <StR|Sangreal> lease i have just removed the proprietary ATI controller because one told me that it causes all the flickering of my videoplayers... how should i install the right opensource one? (my architecture is centrino2, distro kubuntu intrepid and videocard ati mobility radeon x1450)
[21:12] <wes_> you have youre trial and error cuznt, but there is always a fix to the problems
[21:12] <mihai__> anyone has an idea on how to make lexmark x2650 work on kubuntu ?
[21:12] <mihai__> i've tryed installing it's software...but it won't work
[21:12] <mihai__> it won't print...neither scan
[21:13] <dougl> is there a way to install nvidia driver in kde?
[21:14] <mihai__> dougl yes, what version of kde do you have ?
[21:14] <wes_> should be prepackaged
[21:14] <cuznt> well i have since installed 2 hard drives kde on each
[21:14] <cuznt> use one to fix the other
[21:14] <mihai__> yes, wes_'s right :) but if it doesn't work already it means that something's wrong
[21:14] <dougl> mihai__, default that comes with 8.10...
[21:14] <dougl> sorry forgot to mention that :)
[21:15] <mihai__> so what's the prob then ?
[21:17] <dougl> mihai__, I would like to install nvidia drivers but manual nvidia installer fails to build kernel module... is there somewhere in kde to install older version for my fx5700?
[21:17] <ryan-c> I had good luck with the envy driver installer
[21:21] <webmaren> my mouse pointer disappears when I rollover the opera tab bar, anybody heard of this problem before?
[21:22] <dougl> I had a little pop up icon come up in my system tray and it had options to enable nvidia drivers - one option for current then an option for older driver = how do I get that application/utility again?
[21:22] <petra> !wpa2
[21:22] <dougl> I am running 8.10
[21:25] <webmaren> nevermind, must have been a transient, because a restart fixed it
[21:29] <Ahmuck> hi.  i have a set of photos, and i need to print them 4 to a page on photo paper.  what is the best way to do this?  the best program?
[21:32] <lokpest> Is it possible to let the button "attach in email" i dolphin to work with thunderbird instead of kmail?
[21:34] <lokpest> hmm, this seams to be a related bugreport
[21:34] <lokpest> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+question/24656
[21:52] <lokpest> anyone?
[21:55] <denis> !de
[21:55] <Name141> I have a problem with my external not working in 8.04 LTS.   I run the install for 8.04 and it causes my external drive's light to go "red".  And it hangs.  However, I run the install for 8.10 and it doesn't hang up.  Should I try to flip off the hard drive, install the OS, upgrade it, then flip back on the HD?  Or would I be wasting my time as it wont work even after upgrade?  I have problems with 8.10.
[21:57] <StR|Sangreal> please, i have uninstalled the proprietary graphic driver (i use centrino2 notebook and my videocard is ATI radeon mobile x1450)
[21:58] <StR|Sangreal> how can i install the proper opensource driver?
[21:59] <StR|Sangreal> with the proprietary one my videoplayer wasnt able to play vids properly
[22:02] <stewart_> hmmm  quiet here  eh ?
[22:03] <szrhawaii> yep very quiet
[22:04]  * shadeslayer starts to brush up a storm
[22:04] <shadeslayer> you want me too
[22:04] <stewart_> hehe  I just found konversation amongst other things  while trying to get ubuntu to talk with my phone,  tried kde and all sorts -  then I found an up to date thread
[22:05] <stewart_> all the same info just up to date repository urls:  world of difference
[22:05] <stewart_> so is this channel  normally fully of general chat or nerdy chat ?
[22:08] <dkkong> My KDE4 is broke after an update. It just logs into a white screen, I see my desktop, then more white screen.
[22:09] <cuznt> dkkong restart x <cntl><backspace> and choose to log in on the safe mode
[22:10] <yousef_> how come there is no package for ngspice?
[22:10] <cuznt> then do sudo apt-get update
[22:10] <cuznt> sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[22:10] <dkkong> Okay, just a sec. BRB. Thanks cuznt
[22:10] <cuznt> there were unresolved plasma dependancies dkkong
[22:11] <szrhawaii> stewart sometimes
[22:12] <yousef_> does somebody know how i can get ngspice?
[22:12] <szrhawaii> yousef what are you looking to do
[22:12] <yousef_> cause for some reason the package is not in the repos
[22:12] <linuxguy> Hi Can anyone tell me how to get compiz-fusion working properly with the "cube" on 8.10 running Kde 4.12 please?..thanks
[22:12] <yousef_> i want the ngspice engine
[22:13] <yousef_> for oregano
[22:13] <yousef_> circuit analysing
[22:14] <denis__> !de
[22:14] <szrhawaii> yousef you got gnome or kde
[22:14] <yousef_> kde
[22:14] <yousef_> 3.5
[22:15] <szrhawaii> did you download the package for ngspice ngspice
[22:16] <yousef_> what package
[22:16] <yousef_> im looking for te package ngspice
[22:17] <szrhawaii> ill give you a forum and location
[22:17] <szrhawaii> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292856 forum
[22:18] <yousef_> thnx
[22:18] <szrhawaii> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=38962&package_id=31152 location
[22:18] <linuxguy> yousef_, here it is :) http://ngspice.sourceforge.net/
[22:18] <szrhawaii> of file
[22:18] <jhutchins_lt> !pulse
[22:18] <szrhawaii> then terminal it after you download this from that site sudo dpkg -i ngspice_17.0.0-1_i386.deb
[22:18] <linuxguy> !compiz-fusion
[22:19] <jhutchins_lt> So can anyone tell me what pulseaudio does besides break sound systems?
[22:20] <szrhawaii> yousef this is the file your looking for ngspice_17.0.0-1_i386.deb
[22:20] <szrhawaii> yousef at this website http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=38962&package_id=31152
[22:21] <yousef_> 64bit?
[22:21] <yousef_> oh wait
[22:21] <yousef_> ok thanx
[22:22] <dkkong> No luck cuznt. I still see the desktop and the welcome to the pasmoid note, then white takes over and I can't see a thing
[22:23] <szrhawaii> dkkong what did you do
[22:23] <szrhawaii> just an upgrade
[22:24] <szrhawaii> try looking at your download history to see what you downloaded
[22:24] <szrhawaii> maybe you will find the problem
[22:24] <dkkong> szrhawaii: Yeah, I was running 3, then it upgraded to 4
[22:24] <cuznt> dkkong did a sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[22:24] <dkkong> That too
[22:24] <cuznt> RC1?
[22:26] <dkkong> I don't think it's the RC1 version. It's whatever was in the repo. Honestly, I'm not quite sure how the upgrade happened. I was happy with KDE 3, but somehow got the 4 packages installed
[22:26] <szrhawaii> what are the 4 packages
[22:26] <dkkong> The KDE 4 packages.
[22:32] <szrhawaii> why would you put kde 4 packages ontop of kde 3.5
[23:06] <TimS> Is anyone here knowedgeable with graphics cards? My card (9800GT) has two DVI outs, and claims its max resolution is 2560x1600, is that per monitor or in total
[23:21] <genii> TimS: 1280x800x2
[23:22] <nedim> How to remove koffice-data-kde4 package? I want to install new KDE
[23:28] <nedim> How to remove koffice-data-kde4 package? I want to install new KDE
[23:32] <crash_art> witajcie mam taki problemik malutki
[23:33] <crash_art> mianowicie chodzi o to ponieważ zakupiłem sobie w anglii laptopa advent
[23:34] <crash_art> i on ma guziki od włączania wi-fi, poczty, i guzik od włączanie szybszych obrotów wentylatora
[23:34] <crash_art> i żaden z nich nie chce mi działąć :/
[23:35] <crash_art> tochę lipa jest bo wi-fi muszę odpalać z konsoli (ifconfig wlan0 up)
[23:35] <crash_art> może ktoś mi pomoże jak to ugryść :/
[23:35] <crash_art> ??
[23:36] <crash_art> aha no dobra widzę szału nie ma nikt nie jest chętny do wspułpracy :[
[23:42] <Freddy2> hi
[23:53] <KonDTsan> ok, i have a problem. I switched my laptop to run dual screens, now i'm stuck with 640x480 res and can't get it fixed
[23:58] <whking> hi
[23:59] <whking> firefox in kubuntu does not look right, the tabs have graphic errors, is this common? is there a fix?