| gmb | wgrant: Ohnononnono. We want that in the bug tracker. It's a matter of resources and other priorities. | 00:00 |
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| gmb | (Two hours later, I grant you, but hey, such is asynchronous communication, and I wanted to stick my oar in before I went to bed.) | 00:01 |
| wgrant | gmb: Oh good, you've changed your attitude. It was very strongly shot down years ago. | 00:02 |
| gmb | wgrant: No, I haven't changed my attitude, I'm just expressing what the bugs team have said themselves. Whether it has been shot down from on high in the past I don't know (and our data model - or at least our understanding of how to refine it - is better now). Of course, there's always the chance that any new feature will get the stompy boot of doom applied to it by the people who have the last word. | 00:05 |
| wgrant | gmb: 'You' meaning the LP developer collective, sorry. | 00:07 |
| gmb | wgrant: Ah right. Well, like I said, I can't speak for the PTB but in the trenches it's something we'd very much like to see. | 00:08 |
| wgrant | gmb: Excellent, thanks. | 00:08 |
| gmb | np. | 00:08 |
| wgrant | Should a single PPA really be allowed to die up all of the PPA buildds for ages? | 00:17 |
| wgrant | s/die/tie/ | 00:17 |
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| dnyy | Is there a channel for help with package building? | 02:03 |
| thumper | dnyy: not a specific one that I know of | 02:12 |
| thumper | not related to launchpad anyway | 02:12 |
| nhandler | dnyy: #ubuntu-motu might be your best bet (if the packages are for Ubuntu) | 02:14 |
| dnyy | they are, thanks thumper and nhandler. :) | 02:15 |
| nhandler | You're welcome dnyy | 02:16 |
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| wgrant | Soyuz, stop lieing to me! | 03:00 |
| wgrant | It is telling me that I copied packages from a PPA which is different from the one I actually copied them from. | 03:01 |
| det | Are there any plans for launchpad to be able to build packages for Debian ? | 03:08 |
| thumper | det: it has been considered | 03:11 |
| mwhudson | det: in the "hmm, yeah, that would be nice" sense, yes | 03:11 |
| thumper | but I'm not sure on the current status of the plans | 03:11 |
| det | It would be really nice, IMO, and show that Ubuntu gives back to Debiab, | 03:11 |
| det | I currently maintain packages for a game for Ubuntu users, it seems a shame that Debian users cant piggyback off my packaging, when the source packages are compatible with both. | 03:12 |
| * lamalex dreams of a universal build service | 03:13 | |
| lamalex | maybe when LP is open sourced.. | 03:13 |
| thumper | heh | 03:14 |
| lamalex | suse, red hat, debian, ubuntu packages all in the same place | 03:14 |
| lamalex | that'd be a dream come true for projects | 03:14 |
| thumper | lamalex: interesting dream | 03:14 |
| lamalex | "I have a dream" | 03:14 |
| lamalex | thumper: it should be that hard, there are already great build services for most major distros | 03:15 |
| lamalex | shouldn't | 03:15 |
| lamalex | they just need an abstracted front end and probably a roll of duct tape | 03:15 |
| mwhudson | yeah, specifying build dependencies should be a breeze?! | 03:15 |
| lamalex | mwhudson: i'm not voting for one service that builds N packages | 03:16 |
| lamalex | you say I want a suse package, give it the sauce to make a suse package, it hands it off to the suse builder | 03:16 |
| mwhudson | oh right | 03:17 |
| mwhudson | that sounds a lot saner :) | 03:17 |
| lamalex | haha indeed | 03:17 |
| lamalex | it just gives projects one place to tell users to get packages | 03:17 |
| lamalex | which has value | 03:18 |
| lamalex | and increases LPs appeal to projects | 03:18 |
| wgrant | lamalex: Note that the relevant bit of Launchpad isn't being open-sourced. | 03:20 |
| * lamalex puts his head down | 03:21 | |
| lamalex | is that Charlie Brown music I hear? | 03:21 |
| wgrant | Hm? | 03:24 |
| lamalex | nevermind, arrested development reference | 03:24 |
| wgrant | We can hope that the lords of Launchpad will change their minds soon. | 03:25 |
| mwhudson | -s, possibly | 03:28 |
| wgrant | Well, yes. | 03:28 |
| maxb | It's a shame Soyuz isn't going to be opened. I'd be interested in it purely from the PoV of understanding Ubuntu better | 03:29 |
| lamalex | I'm going to assume Soyuz is the PPA part | 03:29 |
| wgrant | lamalex: Soyuz is Launchpad's package management component, which deals with both PPAs and Ubuntu itself. | 03:29 |
| lamalex | gotcha | 03:30 |
| wgrant | (yet apparently it doesn't include the bit that deals with Debian in Launchpad... I'm not entirely sure what is and isn't included in the open sourcing) | 03:30 |
| maxb | Does launchpad deal with Debian other than in the sense of bugtracker linking? | 03:31 |
| maxb | Oh, and using P-a-s (wrongly, I might add) | 03:31 |
| wgrant | maxb: It imports the packages. | 03:31 |
| wgrant | The Debian imports have nothing to do with P-a-s. | 03:32 |
| wgrant | Ooh dear. | 03:33 |
| wgrant | Launchpad is not going to be happy with me, I don't think... I wonder how that will work. | 03:33 |
| wgrant | Aw, it didn't break. It just didn't publish. | 03:44 |
| maxb | ooh? | 03:46 |
| wgrant | I got a Debian package into my PPA. i was hoping it would crash the publisher or something creative like that, but it apparently does really only publish Ubuntu. | 03:48 |
| mkanat | What's the canonical URL for a bug? bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123456 ? | 04:22 |
| thumper | mkanat: that'll work | 04:24 |
| mkanat | Okay. How many variations are there? Just bugs/12345$ and +bug/12345$ ? | 04:25 |
| mkanat | (In regex terms.) | 04:25 |
| * thumper pokes ubottu | 04:26 | |
| thumper | bug 123 | 04:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 123 in rosetta "There's no direct way to see the project info when translating it" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123 | 04:26 |
| thumper | mkanat: that url will redirect to the main bug-task | 04:26 |
| thumper | mkanat: so there are lots of variations depending on what the bug relates to | 04:26 |
| mkanat | Sure, but they all end in either +bug/1234 or bugs/1234 | 04:27 |
| thumper | mkanat: however bugs/1234 will work | 04:27 |
| thumper | probably | 04:27 |
| thumper | I can't say with 100% certainty | 04:27 |
| mkanat | Okay. | 04:27 |
| thumper | but most likely | 04:27 |
| mkanat | This is basically for an API, so I just need to know all the possible variations of URLs that people could give me. | 04:27 |
| * wgrant doesn't know of any other formats. | 04:32 | |
| mkanat | Okay. :-) | 04:32 |
| StevenK | I'm having trouble creating a branch, with bzr giving me a permission denied trying to push to bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/unr/ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings | 06:42 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Pastebin the output, please. | 06:54 |
| StevenK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/108471/ | 06:56 |
| james_w | StevenK: does that branch exist? | 06:59 |
| StevenK | james_w: Nope, I'm trying to create it | 07:00 |
| wgrant | Wow. It is OOPSing at me and telling me that the project doesn't exist, depending on whether I do it on edge or staging. | 07:00 |
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| persia | Maybe because lpnet/unr is a metaproject? | 07:00 |
| james_w | that's probably it | 07:00 |
| wgrant | Oh, so it is. | 07:00 |
| wgrant | I didn't notice that. | 07:00 |
| wgrant | It still shouldn't OOPS. | 07:01 |
| StevenK | Agreed | 07:01 |
| wgrant | Mmmm. Package branches work on staging now. | 07:05 |
| persia | james_w, about package branches: how would these interact with Vcs-* in debian/control? Would it be sensible to just use package branches, or to have also another branch? | 07:07 |
| wgrant | Vcs-* fails to make sense for Ubuntu packages once we have and use package branches. | 07:08 |
| james_w | Vcs-* for most packages will be essentially lp:ubuntu/$suite/$package | 07:08 |
| james_w | however, if there is say a SVN repo used for collaboration between Ubuntu and Debian then that is useful information | 07:09 |
| wgrant | $suite or +latest? | 07:09 |
| james_w | so we shouldn't overried it for every package, but for consistency have the tools default to those branches | 07:09 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 07:10 |
| james_w | well, that's one of the under-specified things about Vcs-*, do you document the branch that things came from, or the branch for the latest code, or the branch that you want changes submitted back to? | 07:10 |
| persia | Within the original context, it's usually been the second and third, which were typically identical. | 07:11 |
| persia | So would you recommend not specifying Vcs-* for ubuntu-local native packages? | 07:12 |
| persia | And just letting the package branching infrastructure manage it? | 07:12 |
| james_w | that's not what I said | 07:12 |
| james_w | having that information would be useful | 07:12 |
| persia | But it should be lp:ubuntu/$suite/$package ? | 07:13 |
| james_w | but the toolset isn't based on that information | 07:13 |
| james_w | (the toolset not being Debian things such as debcheckout) | 07:13 |
| persia | heh | 07:13 |
| persia | So, when preparing a new ubuntu-local native package not expected to be used externally to Ubuntu, what would you recommend? | 07:14 |
| james_w | persia: sorry, missed your question. I would recommend adding the Vcs-* header, pointing to the package branch. | 07:34 |
| persia | So lp:ubuntu/$suite/$package ? | 07:34 |
| james_w | yeah | 07:40 |
| james_w | the expanded version probably | 07:40 |
| persia | right. Thanks | 07:42 |
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| mvo | hello! what is the best way if I want to upgrade a branch on LP? when I try it, I get: "starting upgrade of sftp://mvo@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/app-install-data-ubuntu/ubuntu/; bzr: ERROR: File exists: '/~ubuntu-core-dev/app-install-data-ubuntu/ubuntu/backup.bzr': mkdir failed: unable to mkdir" - is there way around this other than poking with sftp manually around? | 09:36 |
| mvo | (and I I somehow trigger it remote so that I don't have to do all the dowload/upload? this branch is really big) | 09:36 |
| mvo | $ du -sh .bzr | 09:36 |
| mvo | 68M.bzr | 09:36 |
| james_w | mvo: you have to delete the backup.bzr using lftp or similar currently | 09:51 |
| james_w | and unfortunately there is no way to do it server side yet, that is being worked on | 09:51 |
| mvo | james_w: ok, thanks. I whish there was a LP button "update my branch" :) | 09:52 |
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| shilbert | Hi, I have started to read up on uploading packages to my PPA. I am stuck at multiple points in the procedure. Let me try to explain what I aim for | 10:54 |
| shilbert | I am from the GNUmed team | 10:54 |
| shilbert | there are uptodate packages for debian in sid | 10:55 |
| shilbert | and I would like to get these into the GNUmed PPA for Hardy, Intrepid and Jaunty | 10:55 |
| shilbert | I am looking for advice on how to best achieve this | 10:55 |
| shilbert | First attempt was to go through the complete build and upload from source cycle | 10:56 |
| shilbert | This fails as to it apparently uploads ok but I don't receive any email on success or failure nor does it appear in the PPA | 10:57 |
| shilbert | So I found this manual where ist states that one can copy from one PPA to another | 10:57 |
| shilbert | this however is not an option as GNUmed is only in Debian Sid and not in another PPA | 10:58 |
| shilbert | Please advise on the best way to do this | 10:58 |
| noodles775 | shilbert: Yes, I'd recommend trying to find out if and why the builds from the sources failed... | 10:58 |
| noodles775 | Was it hours/days ago that you uploaded the sources? | 10:59 |
| shilbert | I might be impatient and did not know it can take hours, it was only two hours ago, sorry if that is the problem | 10:59 |
| shilbert | is there any sync possible from Debian Sid ? | 11:00 |
| noodles775 | No problem... I just recall someone the other day being given the advice "Just wait a bit" | 11:00 |
| shilbert | I am just starting to learn packaging and all I want to do is copy it from Debian :-) | 11:01 |
| noodles775 | shilbert: have you gone through the video tutorials? I reckon they're a great way to start... | 11:01 |
| shilbert | Sorry did not find those. I have read many pages starting with launchpad help | 11:02 |
| shilbert | will go and check it out now | 11:02 |
| shilbert | thanks | 11:02 |
| noodles775 | np... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKLabbXTqMc | 11:03 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Is it intentional that one can have packages in multiple distros in a single archive? Does that make sense at all? | 11:03 |
| noodles775 | shilbert: In your case it should be a bit easier as you won't need to create the debian files... | 11:04 |
| wgrant | (if I try to copy from a Debian archive into my PPA, I can only copy into Debian series, which is unfortunate and useless) | 11:04 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: I'm not certain that the possibility has been considered... | 11:05 |
| noodles775 | bigjools: will be back soon and can probably provide more helpful info... | 11:05 |
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| wgrant | Well, it's certainly possible, and it would be useful to be able to copy from Debian to a PPA and have things built and published. | 11:05 |
| wgrant | Actually, I wonder if I can do that through the API... | 11:06 |
| noodles775 | Yeah, good question... | 11:06 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: AFAICS, the UI definitely does not support it (although it's currently noted as a bug)... so it should be fixed if PPAs for other distributions are supported... | 11:18 |
| shilbert | wgrant: just in case you find an elegant way it would be nice if you could somehow notify the gnumed team (time permitting) | 11:18 |
| wgrant | noodles775: The UI does not support what? | 11:19 |
| shankhs | Is geany in LP? | 11:19 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: sorry, I meant to say, that allowing the selection of distroseries (other than that of the source archive) is something that should be fixed... | 11:20 |
| noodles775 | in the UI | 11:21 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Do Archives have distros linked directly, or is it just the SPPHs? | 11:22 |
| shankhs | I was trying to install geanydebug plugin but it seems that the configure.in file in geany needs the source code I found the geany source code in /usr/include/geany and gave the path but at the end it always says FATAL ERROR : source code not found | 11:23 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: Archives are linked directly to distros, yes. | 11:23 |
| shankhs | How should I change the configure.in file? | 11:24 |
| wgrant | noodles775: That's what I thought until this afternoon, but how on earth does it let me copy something into the wrong distro in an archive? | 11:25 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: as I said, I don't think it's intentional... | 11:25 |
| noodles775 | but I'm not certain... | 11:26 |
| wgrant | noodles775: I guess it's an easy fix since archives are linked to distros. | 11:26 |
| wgrant | Hmmm, except not. | 11:26 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: if you've time, can you submit a bug for this? | 11:26 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Sure, I was planning to once I checked with one of you guys. | 11:27 |
| noodles775 | :) - migth be worth checking with bigjools first, but AFAICS, it looks like a bug. | 11:27 |
| wgrant | The API looks up the distroseries name against the archive's distro, and I can do Debian Primary -> Ubuntu PPA copies fine that way. | 11:30 |
| wgrant | shilbert: ^^ | 11:30 |
| noodles775 | Great | 11:31 |
| wgrant | If archives are bound to distros, is there no namespacing reason for the 'ubuntu' in PPA URLs? | 11:32 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: f someone's copying it into their sources.list, it's handy for the url to be descriptive isn't it? | 11:34 |
| wgrant | noodles775: True. So it's just descriptive, not for namespacing? Interesting. | 11:34 |
| maxb | The URL is ppa.launchpad.net/USER/ubuntu - so perhaps it's there to reserve a level of namespacing for giving a user a second PPA for a different distro, should that ever happen? | 11:36 |
| wgrant | maxb: It's actually ppa.launchpad.net/USERNAME/ubuntu/PPANAME now. | 11:36 |
| maxb | well, yes, but only on edge so far | 11:37 |
| wgrant | IIRC the constraint is only (person, distro, name), so the web UI's URLs are wrong. | 11:37 |
| wgrant | And ppa.launchpad.net's are right. | 11:37 |
| wgrant | ('wrong' meaning special-cased to Ubuntu) | 11:38 |
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| wgrant | Bug #320398 | 11:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 320398 in soyuz "Copy UI allows copying into Debian series in Ubuntu PPAs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320398 | 11:41 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: don't you mean: /USERNAME/PPANAME/ubuntu ? (on edge) | 11:41 |
| noodles775 | Thanks wgrant | 11:41 |
| wgrant | noodles775: That I do. That doesn't make sense if archives are linked to distros. | 11:42 |
| noodles775 | Well, it only doesn't make sense if you imply from that url that one archive might have content for multiple distros... | 11:45 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: ^^^ | 11:45 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: but my *guess* would be that the intention people will use a different ppa for the different distro... | 11:45 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: but... you've been around here longer than me, so you could be right! | 11:46 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Right, but it would make more sense, to group the PPAs by distro in the directory hierarchy, I think, and it's less confusing. | 11:46 |
| wgrant | Hah. | 11:46 |
| wgrant | Argh, I am going to die of commas. | 11:46 |
| * noodles775 laughs | 11:46 | |
| noodles775 | wgrant: possibly, but as you said, there may not be a need for the distro in the directory hierarchy, except so the url is descriptive... | 11:48 |
| * wgrant looks up the constraint for a definitive answer to that. | 11:48 | |
| * noodles775 is out of his depth here... so take it with a grain of salt | 11:49 | |
| wgrant | (distro, person_name, ppa_name) | 11:49 |
| wgrant | So the 'ubuntu' is necessary. | 11:49 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: where are you looking for the constraint? | 11:49 |
| wgrant | noodles775: The spec and some bugs. | 11:50 |
| bigjools | it's placeholder as much as anything, the pain involved to add a named PPA to things was not good so when/if we start supporting more than Ubuntu PPAs it will be easier | 11:51 |
| wgrant | bigjools: I wondered as soon as I saw the +archive URL changing a couple of months ago why you didn't take this opportunity to fix it forever in one hit and add the distro in there too... | 11:53 |
| bigjools | URLs are easy to deal with, they can be redirected | 11:53 |
| wgrant | bigjools: True, true. | 11:54 |
| bigjools | as I've done for the ppa name :) | 11:54 |
| wgrant | Right. | 11:55 |
| wgrant | Has a policy for multiple PPA usage been decided upon yet? | 11:55 |
| bigjools | policy in what regard? | 11:55 |
| wgrant | What they are to be used for. Last I heard it was to be very restricted. | 11:55 |
| bigjools | where did you hear that, out of interest? | 11:56 |
| wgrant | In hear. | 11:57 |
| wgrant | Gah. | 11:57 |
| wgrant | *here*. I suck. | 11:57 |
| * wgrant is grepping. | 11:57 | |
| wgrant | bigjools: Oh, I remember now, the spec says that only ~admins are meant to be able to create them. | 12:09 |
| bigjools | wgrant: ok. I'm not sure that's completely decided yet but it will be firmed up before the full launch, of course | 12:10 |
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| weboide | Hi, I need to reupload a orig.tar.gz to my PPA, but with the same version, how could I do? | 14:38 |
| wgrant | weboide: You cannot. | 14:38 |
| weboide | wgrant: argh :/ | 14:38 |
| weboide | wgrant: I always have to superseed it? | 14:38 |
| wgrant | Both because it's not possible, and because it's not a good idea. | 14:38 |
| wgrant | Why do you need to modify it? | 14:38 |
| wgrant | The point of it is that it's *not* modified from the upstream release, so it should never change. | 14:39 |
| weboide | because the upstream changed it | 14:39 |
| wgrant | .... | 14:39 |
| wgrant | The upstream is wrong. | 14:39 |
| weboide | it needs to increase the version? | 14:39 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 14:39 |
| weboide | okay, I'll ask then. | 14:40 |
| weboide | Thanks wgrant :) | 14:40 |
| wgrant | It's very, very strange to alter a release after it's released.. | 14:40 |
| wgrant | It defies the point of having a release. | 14:40 |
| weboide | wgrant: yeah but I'll contact them ;) | 14:41 |
| weboide | wgrant: thanks for your help | 14:41 |
| wgrant | np | 14:42 |
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| mkanat | gmb: All of the Bugzilla API stuff is upstream now, and we freeze in six days, so make sure to let me know if anything doesn't work the way you want. | 15:12 |
| gmb | mkanat: Excellent, thanks. I'll take a look at the start of next week (it's freeze day for us today). | 15:17 |
| mkanat | gmb: Okay. :-) | 15:17 |
| mkanat | gmb: I think everything is doc'ed at http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/en/html/api/Bugzilla/WebService/Bug.html | 15:18 |
| gmb | mkanat: Brilliant, thanks. | 15:18 |
| mkanat | gmb: They did change a lot from what's in the plugin, FWIW. | 15:18 |
| gmb | mkanat: Okay. That shouldn't be a problem; I'll just need to do plenty of testing and tweaking :) | 15:19 |
| mkanat | gmb: Okay. :-) | 15:19 |
| beuno | mkanat, hi! | 15:21 |
| mkanat | Hey beuno! | 15:21 |
| beuno | mkanat, there's a Loggerhead branch waiting for your comments | 15:21 |
| mkanat | I should test that branch for you, shouldn't I? | 15:21 |
| beuno | mkanat, just to know if that addresses what you need, or if I need to work on it further | 15:22 |
| beuno | if you give me the thumbs up | 15:23 |
| mkanat | beuno: Does it display a list of revisions that ends at a certain point? | 15:23 |
| beuno | I'll clean it up a bit and land it into trunk | 15:23 |
| beuno | mkanat, it does | 15:23 |
| mkanat | beuno: Okay. And it still paginates revisions normally, I'd imagine? | 15:23 |
| beuno | mkanat, it should, yes | 15:23 |
| beuno | I refactored some parts of the code to take revision ranges | 15:23 |
| mkanat | beuno: That's what I need then, yeah. :-) | 15:24 |
| beuno | mkanat, how's the migration going? | 15:24 |
| mkanat | beuno: Oh, it's a little controversial. | 15:24 |
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| beuno | mkanat, well, let us know if we can do anything to smoothen it out | 15:25 |
| mkanat | beuno: The key point is that Mozilla mainly uses Hg. | 15:26 |
| mkanat | beuno: So we have to have a compelling reason to move to bzr instead of Hg. | 15:27 |
| mkanat | beuno: Other than "mkanat likes bzr more." :-) | 15:27 |
| beuno | mkanat, bzr rocks? | 15:27 |
| beuno | it's even a command! | 15:27 |
| mkanat | :-D | 15:27 |
| mkanat | Well, I definitely prefer it. I would have rather Mozilla moved to it, but I understand the scaling problems at their level. | 15:28 |
| beuno | mkanat, oh, the scaling problems we can work out, I'm sure, if Mozilla is interested in us helping | 15:31 |
| mkanat | beuno: We already had the whole discussion about a year ago. | 15:31 |
| beuno | mkanat, a lot has changed in a year ;) | 15:31 |
| mkanat | beuno: Yeah, but they've already moved to Hg. | 15:31 |
| * beuno tickles kiko | 15:32 | |
| beuno | mkanat, I know :( | 15:33 |
| beuno | but just throwing it out there | 15:33 |
| mkanat | Sure, I'd love it. | 15:34 |
| mkanat | They only committed to hg for this development cycle, but they're building a lot of infrastructure around it now. | 15:34 |
| poolie | hello | 15:35 |
| mkanat | Howdy. :-) | 15:36 |
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| heikki | i'm trying to upload a package to my ppa and get this error: "Unhandled exception processing upload: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe4' in position 77: ordinal not in range(128)", any ideas how to fix this? u'\xe4' is 'ä', there is ä in my name and I'v been able to upload packages with my name in changelog/control file before | 16:57 |
| heikki | (um, was that message too long?) | 16:58 |
| rockstar | heikki, where are you getting this error? | 17:01 |
| heikki | i run the dput command and get a mail which says that my package is rejected | 17:02 |
| heikki | whole message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108647/ | 17:03 |
| bigjools | heikki: known bug, can you change your name in LP to a non-unicode one temporarily during the upload | 17:04 |
| heikki | ok i'll try | 17:05 |
| bigjools | it'll be fix in 2.2.2 | 17:05 |
| bigjools | fixed* | 17:06 |
| heikki | bigjools: it works, thanks! | 17:16 |
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| LaserJock | beuno: it seems like there's gotta be a decent way to let people know that a vcs-import is just plain dead | 19:12 |
| beuno | LaserJock, sure, we just have to find it | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | I've had to completely give up on using Launchpad for non-bzr projects | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | which makes the whole "everything on LP" thing hard | 19:13 |
| poolie | LaserJock: because the imports are out of date and you can't find out? | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | yeah, vcs-imports are too unreliable | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | I'll be pulling along and then I think, "hmm, it's been a couple weeks since I got any updates" | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | I check the LP page and it's dead | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | it would've been nice to get something when I do a pull | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | not sure how possible that is | 19:14 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, there needs to be a good way to know about this. It's a bug that there isn't a notfication sent out. | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | I wonder if there could be a redirect or something | 19:15 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, also, where are your vcs-imports coming from? | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | like bzr knows when a branch format needs to be upgraded, when there's a redirect | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | I wonder if it could somehow "know" that the branch has some "dead import" flag | 19:16 |
| LaserJock | rockstar: as in which VCS hosting? | 19:16 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, bzr knows it needs an upgrade. Launchpad doesn't tell it that. | 19:16 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, yea. We seem to have all sorts of issues with Google Code. | 19:16 |
| LaserJock | rockstar: right, what I'm saying is maybe there's something within the branch itself we can set | 19:16 |
| LaserJock | no, no Google Code | 19:17 |
| LaserJock | mostly SourceForge | 19:17 |
| LaserJock | and at least one on Savannah | 19:17 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, there is something we can set, but it's manual right now. | 19:17 |
| LaserJock | rockstar: perhaps that could be leveraged in some sort of automatic way, that'd be cool | 19:19 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, yeah. We need to be able to do that. | 19:19 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, also, you should note that today is my day off, and I'm hacking on the import code. | 19:20 |
| LaserJock | I mean, I realize that vcs-imports are bound to break sometimes (though i don't understand why they're so bad currently) so a good notification system would be a big help | 19:20 |
| rockstar | LaserJock, well, they are so bad because we've had other plates that needed to keep spinning. | 19:21 |
| * LaserJock gives rockstar a cookie | 19:21 | |
| LaserJock | rockstar: right, I mean so bad comparied to bzr-svn | 19:21 |
| * rockstar eats the cookie and asks for a glass of milk. | 19:22 | |
| rockstar | LaserJock, I'm actually working on making bzr-svn the svn importer for VcsImports | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | I've *never* had a failure with bzr-svn, but like I said earlier, I can't seem to get above a 50% success rate with vcs-imports | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | rockstar: are you guys looking much at github for ideas? | 19:23 |
| rockstar | Yea, sometimes. | 19:24 |
| LaserJock | a project I work on recently went form SVN/Sourceforge to git/Github | 19:24 |
| LaserJock | there are some interesting "social networking" bits | 19:24 |
| LaserJock | a lot more personal than LP | 19:24 |
| rockstar | Yea, we've talked about that. | 19:25 |
| rockstar | However, github is also pretty much one thing. Launchpad is trying to be a whole suite of tools. | 19:25 |
| LaserJock | right | 19:25 |
| rockstar | Er, we're not really trying. We succeeding. :) | 19:25 |
| LaserJock | heh | 19:25 |
| LaserJock | whatever you say | 19:25 |
| LaserJock | interestingly, that same project is using LP too | 19:26 |
| LaserJock | so they have wiki/download/bug tracking on SourceForge, VCS on github, and translations on Launchpad | 19:26 |
| rockstar | Geez, that's gotta be rough. I believe in monogamy (and I should note that I'm a mormon :) | 19:27 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 19:27 |
| LaserJock | it is rough | 19:27 |
| LaserJock | especially since there's still an SVN repo on SourceForge | 19:28 |
| LaserJock | so technically there's VCS on both SF and Github | 19:28 |
| LaserJock | rockstar: I did try to pimp bzr/code hosting though :-) | 19:31 |
| LaserJock | but for a developer group of ~6-7 I was the only one that'd even used bzr so I go pretty outvoted :( | 19:31 |
| rockstar | It's too bad though. People get stockholm syndrome with their tools. | 19:32 |
| LaserJock | the main dev is sorta like that | 19:32 |
| LaserJock | he said he invested a lot of time/effort into learning git, he wasn't going to switch | 19:32 |
| LaserJock | and he's a speed freak so I don't think he'd have liked bzr anyway | 19:33 |
| mkanat | That's like why people use Windows. :-| | 19:33 |
| mkanat | It took them so long to learn how to make it work, they feel invested. | 19:33 |
| thomasdelbeke | Hi again | 19:34 |
| thomasdelbeke | I am looking for advice on a hurestore bug | 19:34 |
| thomasdelbeke | It is ancient | 19:34 |
| thomasdelbeke | but I now have an strace and valgrind log that indicate memory leak | 19:35 |
| thomasdelbeke | gdb was semi succesful | 19:35 |
| thomasdelbeke | Do I mark mine as a duplicate and reattach | 19:35 |
| thomasdelbeke | or the other way around | 19:36 |
| thomasdelbeke | ??? | 19:36 |
| Ape3000 | How can I join the launchpad-users mailing list? | 19:36 |
| thomasdelbeke | If so, which reports and comments yo attach? | 19:36 |
| thomasdelbeke | anyone there? | 19:37 |
| LaserJock | thomasdelbeke: so there's 2 bugs, the later, more complete one is yours? | 19:38 |
| thomasdelbeke | yes | 19:38 |
| thomasdelbeke | #320421 | 19:39 |
| LaserJock | thomasdelbeke: I generally favor the one with the most complete report, but all things being equal go with the earliest | 19:39 |
| thomasdelbeke | that is mine | 19:39 |
| thomasdelbeke | OK, I will keep mine than maybe | 19:39 |
| thomasdelbeke | but the other one is already triaged | 19:40 |
| thomasdelbeke | marked importance high | 19:40 |
| thomasdelbeke | Is that a problem? | 19:40 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 19:40 |
| LaserJock | then maybe it would be better to make yours the dup and add your material to the other bug | 19:40 |
| LaserJock | so you don't waste any triaging :-) | 19:41 |
| thomasdelbeke | Bug #64594: | 19:41 |
| thomasdelbeke | This report is public | 19:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 64594 in hubackup "hurestore will always crash on startup (unfinished tool)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64594 | 19:42 |
| thomasdelbeke | that is the original one | 19:42 |
| thomasdelbeke | Is there an alternative BTW? | 19:43 |
| thomasdelbeke | Maybe I will post this on the forum | 19:43 |
| thomasdelbeke | If there is not alternative | 19:43 |
| thomasdelbeke | It should be marked critical | 19:44 |
| LaserJock | thomasdelbeke: there are a bunch of dupes for that bug | 19:44 |
| LaserJock | thomasdelbeke: just mark yours a dup | 19:44 |
| thomasdelbeke | People can loose data this way | 19:44 |
| thomasdelbeke | If you reformat your system and it is not working | 19:44 |
| thomasdelbeke | OK I will mark it as a dup | 19:45 |
| thomasdelbeke | and post it on the forum | 19:45 |
| thomasdelbeke | Thanks for the info | 19:45 |
| LaserJock | np | 19:45 |
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| Adri2000 | got OOPS-1119ED453 when renewing team membership | 20:30 |
| flacoste | hi Adri2000 | 20:56 |
| flacoste | Adri2000 how did you renew your membership? | 20:57 |
| flacoste | sinzui, Adri2000 hit an assertion error when renewing his membership | 20:57 |
| flacoste | sinzui: OOPS-1119ED453 | 20:57 |
| flacoste | Adri2000: it seems that you can't renew your membership yourself, the team admin should do it | 20:57 |
| savvas | nice error, hehe | 20:58 |
| savvas | "OOPS" | 20:58 |
| shilbert | Hi, how can I investigate why I do not receive any feedback from launchpad via email after dput upload to my PPA? Thanks. | 21:11 |
| flacoste | shilbert: do you receive email from Launchpad regularly | 21:14 |
| sinzui | Adri2000: How did you get to that page to renew your membership? The only documented way to do get to that page was by typing the URL into the browser. | 21:29 |
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| bigjools | shilbert: you've either signed with the wrong key or not signed at all | 21:35 |
| maxb | Hi, is there anyone around who can poke yellow.buildd with a big stick? It's apparently been building qt4-x11 for three _days_ | 21:37 |
| Adri2000 | flacoste, sinzui: it was for the ~motu team, and despite the oops, the renewal itself did work. and I just followed the link given in the email I received, and hit the "renew" button | 21:38 |
| Adri2000 | also, I use edge, being in the beta testers team | 21:38 |
| flacoste | herb, mthaddon, do any of you can help maxb? | 21:39 |
| sinzui | Adri2000: thanks. There is a discrepancy in the code the generates the form and the rules for renewal. I'll file a bug about it. | 21:40 |
| herb | maxb, flacoste: one moment | 21:41 |
| Adri2000 | sinzui: ok | 21:41 |
| flacoste | bac, sinzui: can we grant a vouchour for gary's https://edge.launchpad.net/lpbuildbot ? | 21:42 |
| bac | flacoste: i did it about an hour ago | 21:42 |
| flacoste | bac: thanks | 21:43 |
| sinzui | mthaddon: can you confirm the ~motu team's member policy is ondemand? | 22:01 |
| mthaddon | sinzui: where would I find that - I see it's restricted team | 22:03 |
| sinzui | mthaddon: do you have access to the change details page? Which number radio button is selected for " When someone's membership is about to expire, notify them and: " | 22:07 |
| mthaddon | sinzui: "invite them to renew their own membership" | 22:07 |
| sinzui | 2 is ondemand, Thanks | 22:07 |
| elmo | maxb: fixed | 22:12 |
| maxb | excellent :-) | 22:15 |
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| maxb | I don't suppose anyone's considered making an "upload multiple attachments to bug" feature? | 23:09 |
| beuno | maxb, we have, in several ways | 23:10 |
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| Blackfate | anyone here? | 23:17 |
| beuno | Blackfate, 125 people, what's up? | 23:18 |
| Blackfate | i see laucnchpad imported keys | 23:18 |
| Blackfate | for the ubuntu repositories | 23:18 |
| Blackfate | i made a bash script which allows you to auto scan the pc for the launchpad sources and and auto download keys | 23:19 |
| Blackfate | you can check more here | 23:19 |
| Blackfate | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6605259#post6605259 | 23:19 |
| beuno | Blackfate, that's awesome | 23:20 |
| Blackfate | ^^ | 23:20 |
| Blackfate | clean code! you can change it if you like | 23:20 |
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| spitfire_ | Hi. I have a strange problem. I've uplodaed package to my PPA, and it failed to build, but building it locally, using pbuilder worked. | 23:58 |
| spitfire_ | Any clues? | 23:58 |
| spitfire_ | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21582680/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.gnome-do_0.7.98-0~intrepid~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 23:58 |
| spitfire_ | And it's strange it failed to build only on amd64 arch. | 23:58 |
| spitfire_ | Is there some kind of problem with mono, when building in buildd system? | 23:59 |
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