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[01:18] <Tekno> http://pastebin.ca/1315891
[02:20] <DanaG> argh, the new volume control applet thoroughly sucks.
[02:20] <dtchen> well, it's a WIP...
[02:20] <DanaG> How am I supposed to choose which device my volume control keys control?
[02:20] <DanaG> I have to control both PCM and Master with the slider.... because each time I boot... it boots with PCM MUTED!
[02:20] <DanaG> And there's no way to set the gnome thing to use BOTH sliders!
[02:21] <DanaG> As far as I'm concerned, this new volume control is a major regression.
[02:21] <dtchen> that's bug 315971
[02:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 315971 in pulseaudio "'Front' and 'PCM' mixer control elements must be unmuted by default on HDA platforms" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315971
[02:21] <DanaG> There's also no way to select whether I want line, mic, or mix to record.
[02:21] <DanaG> My USB sound card has Line-in, Mic-IN, SPDIF-in, and a Mix recording option.
[02:22] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/316430
[02:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 316430 in alsa-utils "[Jaunty] Sound channels are muted after reboot" [Low,Fix released]
[02:22] <DanaG> Odd... not fixed for me.
[02:23] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and each time I resume from suspend, PulseAudio is no longer running.
[02:23] <DanaG> and thus all audio apps freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:23] <DanaG> (ze.)
[02:23] <dtchen> DanaG: you're confusing pulseaudio symptoms with alsa-utils symptoms
[02:24] <DanaG> Two separate issues.
[02:24] <dtchen> the alsa-utils symptom is definitely fixed
[02:24] <DanaG> But the old Gnome mixer had a Capture tab.
[02:24] <dtchen> pulseaudio is completely different
[02:24] <DanaG> Odd, not for me... it seems to keep booting muted.
[02:24] <dtchen> well, is it being saved muted?
[02:25] <DanaG> Shouldn't be.  I'll have to test it.
[02:25] <DanaG> Oh, and the applet slider is still backwards.
[02:25] <DanaG> =þ
[02:25] <DanaG> I'll try the reboot now.
[02:29] <DanaG> ♥ the fast boot.  Under a minute (or so) to desktop.
[02:29] <DanaG> Looks like the PCM actually is fixed.  Cool.
[02:30] <DanaG> Oddly enough, it plays the login-ready drumbeat sound... AFTER login.
[02:32] <DanaG> New mixer doesn't supplant pavucontrol as it claims to.
[02:34] <DanaG> ugh, gnome panel died and won't come back.
[03:04] <DanaG> Oh heyas, anyone know where I can get a general-purpose LED-class device (such as a USB device)?
[03:04] <DanaG> Right now I can use my diskprotect LED to indicate things, but that's a bit of an abuse of some signal that shouldn't be abused.
[03:06] <DanaG> I also wish hdapsd weren't hard-coded only for IBM/Lenovo.
[03:07] <DanaG> You know, there ARE other accelerometers out there besides in IBM laptops.  =þ
[03:17] <DanaG> yay: https://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2008/11/22/4269274
[03:24] <DanaG> argh-ness... xorg is eating 50% CPU.
[03:28] <hggdh> DanaG, I had it also
[03:29] <DanaG> Hmm, how can I figure out what's causing it?
[03:30] <hggdh> I took out the fglrx module (I have an ATI card), and it went down hard
[03:31] <hggdh> from about 2 hours of CPU in 9 hours of uptime to about 23 min of CPU in 23 hours uptime
[03:31] <DanaG> I'm using fglrx 8.543 right now -- all newer ones give kernel panics.
[03:32] <DanaG> I just wish the radeon / radeonhd at least supported power management on R600... even if 3D isn't there yet.
[03:32] <DanaG> As it is right now, the open-source drivers don't use the GPU... and yet leave it running at full-speed mode.  Major waste of power.
[03:32] <hggdh> ah well
[03:33] <hggdh> radeonhd seems to be coming up to speed... I am running it now
[03:35] <maxb> Xorg eating CPU? Could be bug 307306
[03:35] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 307306 in gnome-power-manager "upgrade to 2:1.2.99.2-0ubuntu1 makes session utterly slow" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307306
[03:36] <maxb> I wish AMD would get on and release a new fglrx. I'd quite like to move my main laptop to Jaunty, having seen it do fairly well on my ancient laptop and my netbook
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[03:40] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[03:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 314600 in fglrx-installer "fglrx versions newer than 8.543 cause system hang and panic" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[03:40] <lucent> maxb: yuck @ proprietary drivers
[03:41] <maxb> lucent: I agree, but last time I tried to get any open driver to play a DVD as well as fglrx, there were noticable artefacts
[03:43] <DanaG> killing g-s-d and g-p-m did not fix it for me.
[03:44] <lucent> DanaG: it's not LED class so far as I am aware, but the Logitech G15 keyboard with its LCD screen is fairly well understood and usable
[03:44] <DanaG> Eh, I just want a simple LED, actually -- one to use to indicate rfkill and such.
[03:44] <lucent> I don't own such a device, I am basing my guess off of commits to Rhythmbox that support displaying song titles to it, and several blugins everywhere
[03:44] <lucent> oh
[03:44] <hggdh> maxb, it is worth a try
[03:44] <lucent> nothing simple comes to my mind then
[03:45] <DanaG> As it is, my iwlagn LED is rather too obnoxiously bright to allow to blink.
[03:45]  * lucent looks at black piece of tape over his iwlagn LED
[03:46] <maxb> Yes, I'll have to give radeon/radeonhd another try in Jaunty
[03:46] <hggdh> again, what I noticed is that by disabling fglrx it got much better
[03:48] <RAOF> You probably need to remove fglrx before radeon/radeonhd will be accelerated, of course.
[03:55] <hggdh> heh. Most certainly true...
[04:17] <DanaG> random: http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/ollirac123/HP/HPEspresso.jpg
[04:43] <billisnice> After updating a few days ago I can not see the top or bottom ribbons...i rebooted many times.
[05:37] <DanaG> Random link to my alsa info:   http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b3f30450ca3429d30fef644ac0607fe2c9e328dc
[05:37] <DanaG> Does my ADI1988 support two simultaneous capture sources, or something?
[05:37] <DanaG> (And same for the USB card...)
[05:40] <DanaG> You know, despite my ATI issues, I actually don't regret getting the ATI video.
[05:48] <DanaG> bummAr, crimsun isn't here.
[05:48] <DanaG> Anyway, if I want to address somebody by name without pinging that person... I'll slightly obfuscate the name.
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[10:32] <simion314> hi, i installed alpha 3 , it worked fine but after a reboot i can't connect to the internet, i get an IP but i belive that the DNS is not working
[10:33] <simion314> the IP it gets is correct so why the DNS is not working?
[10:40] <scizzo-> simion314: have you tried with pinging the ip instead of the name?
[10:45] <simion314> scizzo-: i do not know an IP valid to ping, now i rebooted in  8.10 and i can get an ip , but i am reading the manual of dhclient
[10:46] <scizzo-> simion314: well from another machine you can ping www.google.com or something and use the ip there
[10:47] <simion314> ok, i will  reboot
[11:19] <simion314> scizzo-,  fixed my connection problem by using sudo dhclient eth0
[11:20] <simion314> maybe i can find a log to see what is the problem
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[13:09] <coz_> hey guys   is the cononical nitifications going to be on jaunty or is that installable onto intrepid?
[13:09] <coz_> notifications
[13:12] <scizzo-> coz_: apt-cache search notification-daemon
[13:12] <coz_> ok let me try that
[13:13] <coz_> this is the one?
[13:35] <biouser> wow, whoever fixed my video resolution issues, if you are in here, thanks a billion
[14:22] <marijus> hello, the intel drivers doesnt build with the new xorg, mesa, drm stuff... also compiz doesnt work anymore for me
[14:35] <biouser> I guess there is little hope for OpenGL with an ATI radeon right now?
[14:41] <Kuaera> Not until the graphics drivers get updated to the new X architecture, I believe
[14:46] <rconan> Kuaera, is it a similar situation with the nvidia cards?
[14:47] <Kuaera> Yes
[14:47] <rconan> anyone successfully got jaunty running from encrypted root?
[14:47] <rconan> I just upgraded and it seems to be broken...
[14:47] <Kuaera> As I recall, there was a notice in the Jaunty testing news release stating that ATi and nVidia drivers would not work due to the new X architecture
[14:48] <Kuaera> Granted, that was a while ago, but they're catching up, I think.
[14:48] <rconan> any news on when nvidia will release drivers?
[14:48] <rconan> --> google
[14:48] <Kuaera> [At least now I can /load/ the "ati" drivers... Originally, I had to use vesa]
[14:49] <Kuaera> I don't know much about nvidia drivers, to be honest
[14:50] <Kuaera> I just know that the open-source "ati" driver works, though glxgears segfaults
[14:50]  * rconan realises that upgrade was a mistake... too many things he uses all the time appear to be broken at the moment
[14:51] <rconan> encrypted root being the main one as it completely stops me booting
[15:06] <PolitikerNEU> Hello everonye, is there 3d-acceleration for nvidia cards availible in 9.04?
[15:10] <fosco_> yep
[15:10] <PolitikerNEU> ok, thanks
[15:23] <benpicco> I wonder if that's the right place, however, I installed kde4.2rc on kubuntu 8.10, works fine, but automount (of an ext3 volume) is broken, gives an AccessDeniedByPolincy - is there a way to fix it? Mounting it manually everytimes is not that convinient
[15:24] <fosco_> i don't use kde, sorry
[15:24] <fosco_> maybe in #kubuntu
[15:25] <benpicco> ok, i thought this was kubuntu+1 (and wondered why it was that populated)
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[15:54] <simion314> is the fglrx driver availeble for 9.04?
[15:58] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek - last day going to kick off in #ubuntu-classroom now!
[16:55] <legodude> X does not seem to fully load on my system
[16:55] <legodude> it starts to load
[16:55] <legodude> but never seems to get past loading the driver
[16:58] <legodude> I've tried removing my old xorg.conf but no luck with that either
[16:58] <legodude> no errors in the x log file either
[17:01] <legodude> the last line of my x log file is: (II) intel(0): [drm] mapped classic textures at 0xdc73f000, handle = 0xdc73f000
[17:12] <Volkodav> how come grub did not update itself for a new kernel on a dist-upgrade ?
[17:12] <charlie-tca> Does anyone else use static IP addresses? I find jaunty boots really fast, but it takes about 10-20 seconds after the desktop appears to get a network connection.
[17:13] <Volkodav> I use static and gets it right away
[17:13] <Volkodav> gnome is thinking more then usually
[17:13] <charlie-tca> My network manager spins a long time before connecting
[17:14] <Volkodav> hmm - when I see I see ip right there - no spinning at all
[17:14] <charlie-tca> Volkodav: My grub updated today - -5 kernel
[17:14] <Volkodav> my did'nt
[17:14] <Volkodav> that's what I mean
[17:14] <charlie-tca> Maybe my conf is wrong, then. I'll have to check it out.
[17:14] <Volkodav> I had to update it myself
[17:15] <legodude_> phew
[17:15] <legodude_> that was close
[17:15] <Volkodav> well I am in it and all works so far
[17:15] <charlie-tca> Now if we could get both of our systems doing what the other one does...
[17:15]  * legodude_ is back in kubuntu land
[17:17] <legodude_> wow, but video performance is _terrible_
[17:17] <charlie-tca> legodude: you are not using restricted drivers, are you?
[17:17] <legodude_> nope
[17:18] <legodude_> I had to install an experimental version of the intel drivers
[17:18] <legodude_> default jaunty failed for me
[17:18] <legodude_> and this is way slower than 8.10
[17:18] <charlie-tca> \o/
[17:18] <charlie-tca> It must be the video drivers, but I don't know how to fix it.
[17:19] <legodude_> takes me back a couple years
[17:20] <legodude_> still can't believe that after 40years unix still can't do video properly
[17:21] <legodude_> well, that is a bit unfair because 2d is not so bad
[17:26] <Volkodav> where do I set the position and size of terminal when it opens ?
[17:26] <Volkodav> I mean certain apps remember the position and size but not the terminal for some reason
[17:27] <legodude_> one of these days I will fix the volume control on this machine
[17:32] <charlie-tca> terminal is set in a configuration file, but I forgot which one. I'm using xubuntu now.
[17:50] <laz0r> hi, i just compiled libboost1.37 from the jaunty source package, and it seems the pkg-config files are missing
[17:51] <Skaag> I thought this would be intrepid
[17:51] <laz0r> anyone know how to generate them manually by any chance?
[17:51] <Skaag> intrepid is in #ubuntu? (it's not released is it?)
[17:51] <laz0r> it is
[17:51] <Skaag> oh I see
[17:51] <laz0r> see the topic, it says jaunty up there
[17:51] <Skaag> yes I know, but I was under the impression intrepid was still unreleased. thanks for the clarification.
[17:55] <maxb> Skaag: you're nearly 3 months out of date :-)
[17:56] <Skaag> yah, but when I tried to upgrade to intrepid 30 minutes ago, it wouldn't do it without the -d flag
[17:58] <maxb> If you're on an LTS release, it'll probably default to only suggesting you upgrade to new LTS releases
[17:59] <Skaag> that's probably why it did it... gotcha
[17:59] <Skaag> the second thing that confused me is how Xen 3.3 is in Intrepid but is broken, so everything basically smelled of beta ;-)
[18:07] <Volkodav> hmm I found config but do not see where the startup config mayve ?
[18:08] <Volkodav> http://pastie.org/368923
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Try changing line 65; 80x24 it's 80 across, 24 down
[18:11] <Volkodav> what about screen position though ?
[18:12] <Volkodav> I use 72x19
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[18:12] <charlie-tca> Never found position, only startup size
[18:12] <Volkodav> ok
[18:12] <charlie-tca> Sorry. Devils pie will move it to the right desktop, and may do position too.
[18:15] <Volkodav> hmm I changed the values but it opens with the same size though
[18:15] <Volkodav> remembers the position though
[18:15] <Volkodav> weird
[18:16] <charlie-tca> Maybe gotta restart to remember it?
[18:17] <charlie-tca> Although, I don't know why it would. Should be just a close and open terminal
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[18:29] <Volkodav> right
[18:29] <Volkodav> that's what I did - no reason to restart
[18:30] <andresmh> so I've been running Jaunty off an USB stick and today after doing all the updates suggested by the Update Manage and rebooting X.org won't work anymore. Any suggestions?
[18:30] <TheInfinity> andersk: look in xorg log files?
[18:31] <andresmh> not sure what to look for TheInfinity
[18:31] <TheInfinity> for errors?
[18:31] <andresmh> where is the xorg log?
[18:31] <TheInfinity> hey you installed an alpha version, you should know how to look for errors
[18:31] <TheInfinity> ...
[18:32] <andresmh> thanks
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[18:32] <TheInfinity> ./var/log - like every other logfile.
[18:33] <andresmh> how could one move my USB-based installation to my hard drive?
[18:34] <TheInfinity> dd
[18:45] <setuid> Is it worth it to jump to Jaunty, given that Intrepid shipped with more things broken out of the box than Hardy Heron? (video, sound, wireless, suspend, GNOME are all broken out of the box on Intrepid, but on Hardy on the same physical metal, it works flawlessly)
[18:45] <marijus> im on intel i915 x works actually just compiz doesnt work anymore... :(
[18:47] <andresmh> marijus, did compiz break after doing an update to jaunty?
[18:47] <maxb> setuid: ouch. unlucky hardware. But I wouldn't recommend any Alpha3-level release to anyone wishing to avoid the potential for breakage
[18:48] <setuid> maxb, Nope, the hardware is solid, works great with everything prior to Intrepid
[18:48] <marijus> yes today after upgrade to the 2.6.1 intel driver and the new mesa rc3
[18:48] <setuid> It's a Lenovo Thinkpad T61p, -everything- works, including the fingerprint reader, etc.
[18:48] <setuid> But Intrepid is a lot less functional than Hardy
[18:48] <maxb> setuid: I mean that it's just an unlucky combination of hardware to hit that many regressions
[18:48] <andresmh> marijus, I experienced the same thing and Ialso have i915
[18:49] <andresmh> not sure how to fix it but we shoul definitely open a bug report or something like that, as it might help the developers working on it
[18:49] <marijus> i had to disable compiz to get into x again
[18:49] <maxb> Hmm, interesting, I have a Z61p running intrepid. suspend is broken, but I blame that on fglrx
[18:49] <marijus> im still investigating... no luck xert
[18:49] <marijus> no luck yet
[18:50] <setuid> I've got the Nvidia card in mine, discrete graphics, not on-board, and it runs great... once I spent the 4-5 hours to debug and fix the video problems with the broken driver packages
[18:50] <setuid> It's pushing about 9,700fps
[18:50] <setuid> with glxgears
[18:51] <setuid> The biggest annoyance right now is that gdm is completely non-functional, because gnome-session is broken in the latest available packages, so I can't use a dm to start X. It works with startx though.
[18:51] <setuid> So I run startx, I get a default desktop and gnome-panel, but no wm, so I have to open a shell and run sawfish, then it works... but since there is no session management, I have to reset my fonts every single time.
[18:52] <setuid> (from 10pt to 7.5pt)
[18:52] <setuid> Takes me a good 5 minutes after logging in to start the wm and "reset" everything back to the way it should be, if it was managed by a working gnome-session
[18:52] <setuid> I'm wondering if the jump to jaunty might just add "fixed" packages
[18:53] <legodude_> I would not go to jaunty
[18:53] <legodude_> not yet at least
[18:53] <setuid> I burned the CD and did a test install, and most things worked... though graphics was a bit weird.
[18:53] <legodude_> I have more problems with it than latest intrepid, and less new features that I have seen yet
[18:53] <setuid> I didn't put it through ALL of its paces though
[18:53] <legodude_> graphics package was totally broken at mine
[18:53] <setuid> I may roll back to Hardy then... Intrepid isn't ready for prime-time yet
[18:53] <legodude_> luckily I was able to find a newer build
[18:55] <legodude_> and jaunty broke graphics on my desktop
[18:55] <legodude_> but I have not had any time to poke at it
[18:56] <setuid> I may just start pulling all of GNOME from svn and build it from scratch instead
[18:56] <legodude_> ugh
[18:56] <legodude_> I built kde once a million years ago
[18:57] <legodude_> what a disaster
[18:57] <legodude_> I wanted to explode it
[18:57] <setuid> I've built GNOME before, it's not that difficult... but making sure all of the deps are correct was a challenge.
[19:26] <RyeBrye> can anyone take a look at this and help me figure out how to get around the issue that I'm having related to a broken libmysql package? http://pastebin.com/d57f9a5eb
[19:27] <RyeBrye> The error it reports is: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libmysqlclient15-dev_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[19:27] <RyeBrye>  trying to overwrite `/usr/include/mysql/mysql.h', which is also in package libmysqlclient-dev
[19:27] <setuid> RyeBrye, It's Jaunty... things will be broken until they're fixed
[19:27] <apokalyp1> did you try a clean?
[19:28] <RyeBrye> I will try a clean now
[19:29] <maxb> a clean what?
[19:29] <RyeBrye> apt-get clean
[19:29] <maxb> That's bad advice
[19:29] <maxb> It'll just delete the downloaded packages that you're trying to install, without being relevant to solving the problem at all
[19:30] <setuid> apt-get -f install
[19:30] <setuid> or force-purge the referrant and install the -dev first
[19:31]  * setuid has solved this kind of error hundreds of times in the last 10 years with Debian and Ubuntu
[19:31] <RyeBrye> ok, thanks, I'll try that
[19:31] <setuid> You could tweak the postinst, but I wouldn't recommend that just yet
[19:43] <cdenny> can someone here unban me from #ubuntu
[19:43] <TheInfinity> :o
[20:07] <decomp> i am running jaunty with kde4, xfce4, and gnome. All three tend to intermittently kick me out to the login screen. It happens while im typing. I have an nvidia 8600, i know there are no released drivers yet. I did see something in ppa for an nvidia driver but at this point wonder if i could just switch to a generic that would work for non flashy / compiz type stuff. Just need to work ;)
[20:08] <RyeBrye> you can get the nvidia drivers to work if you use the ignore-abi option
[20:08] <decomp> i am using that
[20:09] <decomp> i am running xinerama at this moment but it still kicks me out at no warning ever so often
[20:09] <decomp> every
[20:10] <decomp> im assuming the xserver is where the problem is but not certain - there are stacktraces in the kdm log
[20:10] <TheInfinity> decomp: yea because drivers are not compatible at all
[20:11] <decomp> TheInfinity: when people say 'the nvidia' drivers, im assuming its the restricted driver for all the compiz type stuff. Im thinking of yanking that out (im using 80? or 180? rev, cant recall).
[20:12] <TheInfinity> decomp: oss drivers = nv :)
[20:12] <decomp> nvidia-glx-180
[20:13] <decomp> thats what i have now
[20:13] <decomp> actually there are several related packages as well for modealiases, kernelmod, but even for other versions like 71 and 96. Why would these be on here it seems they could conflict.
[20:20] <leleobhz> someone have problems with mirrors and jaunty alternate install?
[20:20] <leleobhz> at install time
[20:22] <TheInfinity> leleobhz: here. its normal. some mirrors dont have all packages.
[20:23] <leleobhz> but what i put in the mirror selection?
[20:23] <leleobhz> because alternate dont allow me to continue whithout a mirror
[20:24] <TheInfinity> leleobhz: packages.ubuntu.com works
[20:24] <leleobhz> dont worked
[20:24] <TheInfinity> then another repo :)
[20:24] <leleobhz> mirror: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[20:24] <leleobhz> dir: /ubuntu/
[20:24] <leleobhz> tryed mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <TheInfinity> try a local mirror :)
[20:25] <leleobhz> well, appear it liked only archive.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <leleobhz> but why force a internet update in alternate install?
[20:27] <TheInfinity> dont know. i didnt had time to search for a bugreport @launchpad about this
[20:27] <TheInfinity> perhaps you should do so ;)
[21:18] <solarion> soo, is there a timeline for intel graphics getting un-horked?
[21:24] <danbhfive> !schedule
[21:24] <ubottu> A schedule of Jaunty Jackelope (9.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
[21:25] <solarion> guess the answer is no?
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[21:34]  * solarion kicks the xorg server
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[22:12] <cwillu> solarion, what's the problem?
[22:14] <cwillu> solarion, if you're referring to the 945 horkage, and you're not on 64bit, running the -server kernel will work around the gem breakage
[22:15] <cwillu> if you _are_ on 64bit, I don't know a workaround, but basically the trick would be to find someway to get gem to fail to start
[22:16] <cwillu> it's a known issue upstream, but iirc it wasn't going to be fixable until 2.6.29
[22:25] <solarion> cwillu: I'm not certain what the horkage is.  I updated this morning, and when the X server came up it horked my graphics (even on the other VCs)
[22:25] <solarion> cwillu: after updating this afternoon, it runs but will die a horrible flaming death if I do 3D
[22:26] <solarion> this is an eee901 (intel Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller)
[22:26] <solarion> cwillu: is jaunty getting 2.6.29 now?
[22:27] <Amaranth> If not we probably want to turn GEM off
[22:27] <solarion> whatever it is that it's doing wrong, it needs to no longer be doing it wrong.  :)
[22:29] <cwillu> solarion, check your /var/log/xorg.0.log file for errors re: tiling
[22:30] <solarion> cwillu: I don't see anything with errors there
[22:30] <cwillu> pastebin?
[22:32] <solarion> cwillu: digitasaru.net/Xorg.{0,failsafe}.log{,.old}
[22:33] <cwillu> 0.log
[22:35] <solarion> what about it?
[22:35] <cwillu> was the only one I needed :p
[22:35] <cwillu> anyways, checking some stuff
[22:36] <cwillu> bunch of intel changes in there, might have fixed some stuff and broken others
[22:36] <cwillu> 2.6.28-5 was last night I guess?
[22:37] <solarion> cwillu: I think the .old was the one that showd bad behavior
[22:38] <solarion> -5 came in with the updates this morning, with one x thing (don't remembeer which)  After the update, I got a corrupted screen
[22:38] <cwillu> nice, your server screws up the mime type for 'old' files
[22:38] <solarion> an xorg video drive update came through this afternoon, and now I can use 2D (3D semi-hangs the system)
[22:39]  * cwillu wgets
[22:39] <solarion> heh.  so it does.  sorry
[22:39] <cwillu> .old is still on 28-5
[22:41] <cwillu> there's also a bug re: gnome-power-manager that's causing video slowness (it's polling the xserver, which is bad enough re: power savings, but it's doing it in a very expensive way too, causing performance issues)
[22:42] <cwillu> but that affects 2d as well
[22:43] <cwillu> solarion, you have libdrm-intel1 installed?
[22:44]  * cwillu has to run, will be back in about 5 hours
[22:44] <solarion> cwillu: yes, I do
[22:44] <solarion> 2.4.4-0ubuntu2
[22:44] <solarion> cwillu: shall I file a bug?
[22:45] <cwillu> you haven't already? :p
[22:45] <Amaranth> cwillu: Dude gnome-power-manager causes X to chew 50% CPU for the first couple minutes it's loaded
[22:45] <Amaranth> makes everything so slow I thought compiz was using software rendering
[22:45] <cwillu> Amaranth, want the bug #?
[22:46] <cwillu> bug #307306 It hink
[22:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 307306 in gnome-power-manager "upgrade to 2:1.2.99.2-0ubuntu1 makes session utterly slow" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307306
[22:46] <solarion> cwillu: I figured it already wask nown and that my searching skills just sucked
[22:46] <solarion> my main annoyance is with firefox
[22:47] <solarion> it still freezes on occaasion
[22:47] <cwillu> posting a bug is a good way of having somebody with better searching skills find it for you :p
[22:47] <cwillu> solarion, I need to run, but I'll hunt you down tonight if my laptop shows your symptoms (it's just installing the last 2 days of updates now)
[22:47] <solarion> cwillu: I prefer not to tax them
[22:47] <solarion> cwillu: eee 901?
[22:48] <solarion> I take no responsibility for horkage.  On the contrary, I'm your canary.  ;)
[22:48] <cwillu> no, but 945 chipset
[22:48] <solarion> ah
[22:48] <cwillu> I get sad if I don't have to fix anything during alpha updates :p
[22:48] <solarion> good luck.  :)
[22:49]  * solarion is pretty sure that he's a fool for upgrading, but he is a sucker for the shiny
[22:50] <cwillu> making lots of bug reports is the only way to atone for the sin of upgrading to an alpha and expecting support :p
[22:50] <cwillu> well, fixing bugs would too I guess
[22:50] <cwillu> anyways, gone for real now
=== ZehRique is now known as ZehRique[Away]
[23:17] <Volkodav> this f*/ng Nero holds cdrom that it never ejects
[23:18] <solarion> what is Nero?
[23:20] <Volkodav> nero.com
[23:21] <solarion> Volkodav: ah, burning Jaunty?
[23:22] <charlie-tca> tried right-click eject? or open a terminal and type eject -r ?
[23:22] <solarion> Volkodav: what's the benefit of Nero over k3b or brasero?
[23:22] <Volkodav> it holds like like no tomorrow
[23:22] <Volkodav> blu ray
[23:23] <Volkodav> brasero sux0rz for me on 64 bit for some reason
[23:23] <solarion> interesting
[23:23] <solarion> brasero has worked for me thus far, but I'm not demanding
[23:24] <Volkodav> k3b pulls tons of kde crap which i do not want
[23:26] <Volkodav> checking brasero again - have a lot to burn today
[23:26] <Volkodav> check them all
[23:27] <DanaG> grr, hp doesn't have an iso for the hpmini distro.
[23:28] <Volkodav> brasero crashed
[23:28] <Volkodav> again
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[23:44] <DanaG> aRGh, gdmsetup is missing the "local" tab!
[23:46] <mib_1nk9er> Don't kick me
=== mib_1nk9er is now known as akio
[23:47] <akio> ok, there we go
[23:47] <akio> major breakage
[23:48] <akio> I'm not sure where to look first but I'm going to have to ssh into my machine when I get home to figure out wth happened to my video.
[23:48] <akio> vga=ask works fine but when gdm kicks in something awful happens
[23:49] <akio> scrambled video
[23:49] <DanaG> Oh, no wonder... the hardy-hpmini package removes that tab.  =þ
[23:49] <akio> for a split second the video is ok when switching to a tty but the tty is scrambled too
[23:49] <akio> i do have a special case though
[23:50] <akio> my screen is 1024x600, its a MSI Wind U100
[23:50] <akio> Everything but acpi worked awesome up until last night.
[23:51] <akio> and the framebuffer, that wasn't optimised, but thats a different story
[23:51] <akio> removes what tab?
[23:51] <DanaG> The "Local" tab in gdmsetup.
[23:51] <DanaG> That's in HP's ubuntu remix.
[23:51] <akio> Does it matter than I'm not using a remix?
[23:52] <akio> I was confused, i thought you were saying something relevant to my issue....
[23:53] <akio> I don't know how to boot in a safe graphics way
[23:53] <akio> adding single to the boot line doesn't work
[23:55] <akio> how do i boot without going graphical?