| eddie594 | Question | 00:48 |
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| zoredache | !ask | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 00:50 |
| eddie594 | I need the packages for the beta xfce authenticated... what is the authentication server\file\etc | 00:50 |
| eddie594 | one sec... | 00:51 |
| eddie594 | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/ubuntu intrepid main | 00:51 |
| eddie594 | Need help with that. | 00:52 |
| zoredache | why do you 'need' them to be authenticated? You should be able to install without them being authenticated. | 00:53 |
| eddie594 | Ubuntu bugs me and doesn't download them | 00:54 |
| zoredache | what do you mean 'ubuntu' bugs you? I know if you where installing with apt, it gives you a choice to install packages that haven't been authenticated | 00:55 |
| eddie594 | Err, thanks, I tend to use the gui as it requires less steps. | 00:57 |
| zoredache | vi you add a line 'APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated 1 ; | 00:57 |
| zoredache | vi you add a line 'APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated 1 ;' do your '/etc/apt/apt.conf' you may be able to convince your application to work | 00:57 |
| zoredache | if* you add.... | 00:58 |
| eddie594 | Does everyone still use vi? | 00:58 |
| zoredache | yes, i use vi very much. I use it so much I type vi even when I am thinking of other things | 00:58 |
| subscious | are shared librarys the librarys alltogether or is it aditional stuff? | 01:00 |
| zoredache | subscious: sorry? | 01:01 |
| subscious | i need some additional libraries... now i see several diffrent libs | 01:01 |
| subscious | the shared libs are the runtime libs? | 01:01 |
| eddie594 | Why don't they build an OS disc with an 'instant build from source' option? | 01:02 |
| zoredache | eddie594: eh? you mean like gentoo? | 01:03 |
| eddie594 | Yeah, but even gentoo I found it to take to many manuel steps | 01:03 |
| eddie594 | Especially when you constantly upgrade | 01:03 |
| eddie594 | Trying different comiling options etc.. | 01:03 |
| zoredache | ah, well, it is simple. Programmers suck | 01:03 |
| eddie594 | lol | 01:04 |
| eddie594 | Good explanation.. | 01:04 |
| subscious | y not requesting it? | 01:04 |
| subscious | i dont think programmers suck! | 01:05 |
| eddie594 | Well, ubuntu's philosophy probably isn't covering that section | 01:05 |
| zoredache | they don't really, but getting every developer to a point where they can build source packages so they could be reliably be built auto-magically is nearly impossible | 01:06 |
| eddie594 | Linux still has a ways to go I believe | 01:06 |
| eddie594 | Wow, I haven't used irc in almost a decade | 01:08 |
| subscious | how can i make the date modified column in thunar be more precise? | 01:08 |
| eddie594 | I (at one time) used a command to measure the time to draw a theme on the screen. Anyone remember where (or the command) can be found | 01:13 |
| eddie594 | Thanks. Must restart. | 01:15 |
| subscious | how can i make the date modified column in thunar be more precise? | 01:16 |
| zoredache | have you tried changing the 'date' setting in the preferences? | 01:17 |
| subscious | a ok i overlooked that | 01:18 |
| subscious | y the fuck is thunar not responding after beeing idle for a while? | 01:21 |
| subscious | test | 01:42 |
| a_ | buenas noches necesito ayuda acabo de instalar xubuntu pero no tengo audio | 01:50 |
| charlie-tca | !spanish | 01:53 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. | 01:53 |
| a_ | ok gracias | 01:54 |
| forces | saluton | 04:35 |
| Shadow__X | hello everyone | 05:21 |
| Shadow__X | i am trying to find the autostart manager but it seems to not exist | 05:22 |
| * forces is listening to: PANIC! At The Disco - A Fever You Can't Sweat Out - Lying Is The Most Fun A Girl Can Have Without Taking Her Clothes Off - (0:33/3:20) | 05:22 | |
| tajlero | is this a bug I receive this when starting balazar brothers http://pastebin.ca/raw/1316087 should I submit this as a bug ? | 06:00 |
| === forces_ is now known as forces | ||
| LeAstrale | WB all :) | 09:00 |
| source | :O | 09:23 |
| LeAstrale | What a blast of a net split yeah. | 09:24 |
| Ongavezir | Hozsanna dicsõséges testvéreim | 09:49 |
| Ongavezir | Ongavezir The Holyness join the community | 09:50 |
| Myrtti | a-ha | 09:50 |
| Ongavezir | I am the President Of L.H.A. brotha' | 09:51 |
| Ongavezir | My first task kill da TUKS | 09:51 |
| Ongavezir | I am da TUKSKILLAH | 09:51 |
| Ongavezir | TUKS must Die! The king of Holy Trolls said | 09:52 |
| jarnos | I can't record by gnome-sound-recorder. | 10:53 |
| jarnos | in 8.10 | 10:54 |
| jarnos | Neither in skype, but in linphone and audacity it works. | 10:58 |
| knome | have you checked which backends those use? | 10:59 |
| jarnos | knome: I guess gnome-sound-recorder uses gstreamer. I don't know. | 11:03 |
| Myrtti | jarnos: have you checked your input sources with alsamixer? | 11:04 |
| knome | jarnos, what does audacity/linphone usE? | 11:04 |
| knome | Myrtti o/ | 11:04 |
| jarnos | knome: yes. No idea. | 11:04 |
| jarnos | Myrtti: I think they should be fine as microphone works in linphone. | 11:06 |
| nikolam | jarnos, try selecting apropriate soud device in program you use | 11:09 |
| jarnos | nikolam: I don | 11:10 |
| nikolam | I had problems myself with skype until set | 11:10 |
| jarnos | nikolam: I don't know how to set it in 8.10's gnome-sound-recorder. | 11:10 |
| nikolam | And also turn off automaticallz adjust mixer levels in skype | 11:10 |
| nikolam | jarnos, I was thinking skype is problem | 11:11 |
| jarnos | nikolam: it is too. | 11:12 |
| nikolam | well for skzpe select sound in experiment until zou select right one | 11:12 |
| nikolam | zou hav emake a test call there | 11:12 |
| nikolam | in sound recorder go to file: open volume control | 11:13 |
| Juanantonio | Hello. I want to install Xubuntu 8.10 in a 800 Mhz PC, will it recognize a DVD ReWriter Pioneer DVR-108 and a Ati Tadeon RV100 (I suppose it is a 7000 series)? | 11:15 |
| Myrtti | !hardware | 11:15 |
| ubottu | For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 11:15 |
| Juanantonio | Thank you, I'm having a look | 11:16 |
| nikolam | Juanantonio, mostly will use eather default driver for ati or radeonhd | 11:16 |
| Juanantonio | I saw yesterday another driver, "radeon" | 11:16 |
| Juanantonio | nikolam, with the DVDRW I will have no problem then, will I? | 11:17 |
| nikolam | i think not | 11:17 |
| jarnos | nikolam: "Make a test sound" works, but "Make a test call" reports that "There is problem with audio playback". | 11:18 |
| nikolam | why woul d you | 11:18 |
| nikolam | jarnos, well select output you want | 11:18 |
| nikolam | maybe restart skype to make things work. anyway skype is external app. it is not part of ubuntu. even if it is on edibuntu repo | 11:19 |
| Bagualas | how may I install transalations?? | 11:19 |
| nikolam | I used to search in synaptic and install | 11:22 |
| Juanantonio | Ati Radeon 7000 is capable of glx acceleration, isn't it? | 11:23 |
| knome | Bagualas, system -> language support | 11:24 |
| jarnos | nikolam: I found a working combination of devices in Skype. I think I have tried it before, but I also purged and reinstalled skype, so maybe that was part of the solution. | 11:25 |
| Bagualas | knome, I forgot to tell that is evolution language | 11:26 |
| jarnos | Still recording in gnome-sound-recorder does not work. | 11:26 |
| nikolam | jarnos I think it is same again, select device for recording jarnos | 11:27 |
| nikolam | Bagualas, evolution? | 11:27 |
| Bagualas | yeah | 11:27 |
| jarnos | nikolam: I don't find any means select device for recording there. | 11:29 |
| nikolam | Juanantonio, I think some. see #radeon or #radeonhd | 11:29 |
| nikolam | jarnos, record from input: ? version of recorder? | 11:29 |
| jarnos | nikolam: 2.24.0.1 | 11:30 |
| Juanantonio | Ok, nikolam, thanks a lot | 11:30 |
| nikolam | Juanantonio, np | 11:30 |
| nikolam | U use 8.10 jarnos ? I am on 8.04.2 | 11:32 |
| nikolam | Mine is 2.22 | 11:32 |
| jarnos | nikolam: yes | 11:33 |
| tich | is anyone running xubuntu on a 901 eee pc? i am having trouble finding out any info on how to install it. | 11:33 |
| knome | tich, i am. what kind of help do you need? | 11:34 |
| nikolam | tich http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ | 11:35 |
| tich | i guess the handiest thing to know would be if someone has released a version of xubuntu (or an xfce4-centric os) with the array kernel | 11:35 |
| tich | oh, i will check that out i was so busy watching wha i was typing i missed your link! | 11:36 |
| knome | tich, just add the array repositories to (x)ubuntu after installation | 11:36 |
| nikolam | tuch i don`t like external kernel. I use niceeepc script on 701 and default kernel | 11:37 |
| nikolam | on xubuntu | 11:37 |
| nikolam | but not for 901 | 11:37 |
| tich | i have read that without the array kernel wireless won't work | 11:39 |
| tich | for the 901 | 11:39 |
| tich | i guess they changed some hardware stuff | 11:39 |
| knome | tich, true. just install xubuntu and add the array repository and install the -eeepc kernel | 11:39 |
| knome | tich, i suppose you have an ethernet cable available? | 11:40 |
| tich | knome, yes but not reliably. | 11:40 |
| knome | you only need it once anfter you've installed. | 11:40 |
| knome | *after | 11:40 |
| tich | ah right! to install the new kernel | 11:41 |
| tich | ha i forgot about that! | 11:41 |
| knome | then after installing the -eeepc kernel, you can select to boot the eeepc kernel from grub | 11:41 |
| tich | right | 11:41 |
| knome | i'm not sure about if the intrepid kernel works, though | 11:41 |
| knome | didn't work for me | 11:41 |
| tich | oh, really | 11:41 |
| knome | but i use the hardy repositories and a bit older kernel then | 11:42 |
| knome | so include the hardy repos if the intrepid kernel doesn't work | 11:42 |
| tich | okay | 11:42 |
| tich | good to know | 11:42 |
| tich | did you have any issue with the keyboard? | 11:44 |
| knome | nope | 11:44 |
| knome | works with the default kernel. | 11:44 |
| tich | well that is either good news or you were lucky! | 11:44 |
| tich | even the function and special keys? | 11:44 |
| knome | i haven't heard of kb issues from anybody using any linux distro with eeepc | 11:44 |
| knome | they work eith the array kernel | 11:45 |
| knome | *with | 11:45 |
| tich | i thought i had read some stuff about the some of the special functions not working... | 11:45 |
| knome | yeah, but they work with the array kernel, as i said | 11:46 |
| knome | you even get the OSD working ootb | 11:46 |
| knome | iirc | 11:46 |
| tich | so with a regular install everythings works, more or less, except for wireless | 11:46 |
| knome | hmm. | 11:47 |
| knome | well, you can use the pc | 11:47 |
| knome | what doesn't work: camera, function keys/osd, wireless | 11:47 |
| knome | at least | 11:47 |
| jarnos | I gave up using gnome-sound-recorder. Using audacity, instead. | 11:47 |
| knome | but after you install the array kernel, everything what is supposed to work, works | 11:47 |
| tich | so i add the repos, plug it in, and add teh array kernel (do some tweeking) and big bam boom a working eeepc | 11:47 |
| tich | that is easy enough | 11:48 |
| nikolam | knome maybe some part of niceee script would help. It is not the same on 901? | 11:48 |
| knome | yeah, just install it from synaptic as any other package :) | 11:48 |
| knome | nikolam, what does it do? | 11:48 |
| nikolam | knome automatic fix for hardy on eeepc 701 for everything | 11:48 |
| nikolam | on default kernel | 11:49 |
| knome | nikolam, because i've had absolutely *no* issues with array.org kernel | 11:49 |
| knome | nikolam, i'm running intrepid on my eeepc :) | 11:49 |
| knome | nikolam, but with hardy kernel | 11:49 |
| nikolam | I am content with hardy and i wanted default kernel, soo :) | 11:49 |
| knome | yeah | 11:49 |
| tich | well thanks for the advice, i will check out the forum a bit more and probably get xubuntu up and running soon | 11:50 |
| tich | do you think (x)ubuntu will support the eeepc with the next release? | 11:51 |
| knome | i doubt that, but we will still have the array.org repository :) | 11:51 |
| knome | we'd only need to add hardware support for eeepc hardware, but i'm not sure if anybody is working on that. | 11:52 |
| tich | i guess it is easy enough; i am just lazy sometimes... | 11:53 |
| nikolam | knome, that should be doen for jaunty. | 11:53 |
| knome | nikolam, really? good to know. | 11:53 |
| nikolam | 701 and 901 LOL | 11:53 |
| nikolam | :))) | 11:53 |
| Juanantonio | Does Compiz work with Xubuntu? I know it's not recommendable, but I'd like to know it | 12:11 |
| Ketsueki | I have tried looking at the various ubuntu docs, but it wants me to change something in System -> Preferences -> whatever to change the mosue settings in the HAL, but I'm using xubuntu and XFCE's menu doesn't have any such area, I can't even find anything even close. | 12:18 |
| nikolam | Juanantonio, Yes It works.I installed but end up not using it. I see no use of it. | 12:19 |
| knome | Ketsueki, settings->settings manager ? | 12:19 |
| knome | Ketsueki, + what are you trying to do and where do these erroneus docs exist? | 12:19 |
| Ketsueki | knome: has -no- way of disabling tap touching on the stupid pad... | 12:19 |
| knome | !synaptics | 12:19 |
| ubottu | For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad | 12:19 |
| Ketsueki | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad | 12:20 |
| Ketsueki | Yeah, that's what I was already trying to follow | 12:20 |
| Ketsueki | Basic Configuration with a Graphical Interface | 12:21 |
| Ketsueki | Ubuntu provides configuration of the most common touchpad options in System > Preferences > Mouse, under the Touchpad tab. | 12:21 |
| Ketsueki | However, I have no such tab. | 12:21 |
| knome | Ketsueki, yes, *Ubuntu*. if you're using xubuntu, please see section "Xubuntu and others" | 12:21 |
| Ketsueki | It was working fine, manually configured out in xorg.conf until I upgraded to 9.04 alpha whatever (I'm trying to get my laptop to suspend and resume more than once... I think I went backwards though, the first suspend/resume I tried failed ^.^;) | 12:21 |
| Ketsueki | That's only -advanced- there's no basic method? | 12:22 |
| Ketsueki | However, how do I change it in the HAL? | 12:22 |
| knome | Ketsueki, turning off tapping is not basic function either, i suppose | 12:23 |
| Ketsueki | from xorg.conf, right above where it commented out my previously working inputdevice # commented out by update-manager, HAL is now used | 12:23 |
| Ketsueki | knome: turning OFF tap clicking -is not basic- | 12:23 |
| Ketsueki | I think it is basic | 12:23 |
| knome | Ketsueki, from my pov it is not | 12:23 |
| Juanantonio | Nikolam, I use it in Kubuntu, I have both desktops and I use Compiz in K with shortcuts | 12:24 |
| nikolam | So Compiz is used for.. | 12:24 |
| Ketsueki | From my point of view, tap clicking is something that should be off by default. I never use it on any laptop because they always put the pads beneath where the sides of my thumbs rest when I'm between typing, or typing with poor ergonomics. | 12:24 |
| Ketsueki | So I end up clicking it... | 12:25 |
| Ketsueki | It also really sucks when I browse and lift my finger off the pad, because I don't want to move the mouse, then return it to move it furhter and end up clicking because the time is considerd a tap. | 12:25 |
| knome | Ketsueki, i always use tap clicking, so it's a question of taste. | 12:25 |
| Juanantonio | I use Compiz just to handle all the applications Kubuntu can open simultaneously | 12:26 |
| Ketsueki | knome: Besides all that, there's one other point. It is considered a basic option for ubuntu but not the others? | 12:26 |
| nikolam | aha ok | 12:26 |
| knome | Ketsueki, ubuntu has different configuration utilies because it runs gnome and not, for example, kde or xfce, like xubuntu does. | 12:27 |
| Juanantonio | not because it is pretty, but because I customize and it is faster than KDE window manager | 12:27 |
| multik | g'day all | 12:28 |
| Juanantonio | Ketsueki, for example, I installed Kubuntu 64 8.04, and later installed LXDE desktop, and now I have also xubuntu desktop | 12:29 |
| nikolam | Hey I have a problem | 12:38 |
| nikolam | My DVD`s won`t eject | 12:38 |
| Ketsueki | knome: Ok, why can't I install the gnome config things and run them from command line? I already have both the gnome and KDE libraries since XFCE uses gnome stuff, and kate (which I -really- like for syntax hiliting) use the others. | 12:38 |
| nikolam | I installed some udf packet support and also don`t know hoe to get rid of it now | 12:38 |
| nikolam | command eject works, only that way I can eject dvd`s | 12:39 |
| Ketsueki | nikolam: can you open a console and run 'eject -v /media/cdrom' ? It might tell you that something's currently using the dvd or that you don't have access... Oh well if that already works. | 12:39 |
| Ketsueki | I have no idea what's wrong since I never use the other ways of ejecting (besides the physical button) | 12:39 |
| Ketsueki | Well... this isn't going to help. the stuff I need to reboot to have working is ready, but I am not ready for a reboot ATM... I guess I'll be back if I have other issues. | 12:40 |
| subscious | hello... what would be a good alternative to thunar? (thunar is not responding a lot) | 14:01 |
| jarnos | subscious: pcmanfm | 14:01 |
| subscious | is thunar known for not responding? | 14:03 |
| Myrtti | I've never had problems with it | 14:04 |
| subscious | i have some ntfs partitions and an external drive... might they be the source of the problem? | 14:05 |
| subscious | whhat filemanager is ubuntu using? | 14:06 |
| knome | nautilus | 14:07 |
| knome | but xubuntu is using thunar. | 14:07 |
| subscious | is it available for xubuntu? | 14:07 |
| knome | yes, through synaptic. but be aware, it will steal your desktop. | 14:07 |
| subscious | steal my desktop? what do you want to say? | 14:08 |
| ablomen | subscious, it actually does steal your desktop, hes not kidding | 14:08 |
| ablomen | nautilus without the --no-desktop switch will kill the process that runs your desktop and take its place | 14:09 |
| subscious | haha sounds funny | 14:11 |
| ablomen | hehe yeah i was just thinking that nautilus is actually the guy from hitman, but slower | 14:12 |
| subscious | are all ubuntu distros based on debian? | 14:12 |
| subscious | is pcmanfm faster than thunar is? | 14:13 |
| LeAstrale | y | 14:13 |
| LeAstrale | they all are | 14:13 |
| subscious | what is good about debian? | 14:17 |
| knome | pcmanfm might be a bit faster than thunar. but to answer you original question; yes, ntfs partitions possibly are the cause of thunar being slow | 14:17 |
| knome | !debian | 14:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! | 14:17 |
| subscious | how can i make thunar show all mounted partitions in the explorer tree? | 14:19 |
| subscious | or have linux recognize them ... dunno | 14:19 |
| knome | subscious, so you have mounted the partitions? and can access them? | 14:21 |
| subscious | yeah | 14:21 |
| subscious | mounted them within media | 14:21 |
| subscious | /media/driveletter | 14:21 |
| knome | subscious, are you using shortcuts or tree view in thunar side pane? (view->side pane) | 14:22 |
| subscious | tree view | 14:22 |
| knome | well, then the drives should be available in /media | 14:22 |
| knome | under "File System" | 14:23 |
| subscious | the shortcuts view also doesnt show the partitions i mounted. | 14:23 |
| knome | subscious, it shouldn't by default, but you can add the partitions there | 14:23 |
| subscious | yeah but i want to see them besides filesystem in the tree | 14:23 |
| knome | subscious, i think that's impossible atm. i'm not sure about the next version of thunar. | 14:24 |
| knome | subscious, you can only add your own "bookmarks" in shortcuts side pane. | 14:24 |
| subscious | to bad | 14:24 |
| knome | i'm sorry. | 14:25 |
| subscious | well... its working :) | 14:26 |
| knome | yeah. | 14:26 |
| knome | subscious, the thunar developer says: "The reason is to keep the user interface clean and not to mix too many concepts at the same time." | 14:33 |
| knome | subscious, (why you can't see bookmarks and file system tree at the same time) | 14:34 |
| subscious | well no thats not what i wanted actually ... i just wanted my partitions to appear within the tree .... as the filesystem and my external hdd does | 14:35 |
| knome | subscious, well they are appearing | 14:35 |
| knome | subscious, under /media | 14:35 |
| knome | subscious, ...or wherever you mounted them, | 14:35 |
| subscious | yeah ... the other distros managed to display them as drives | 14:36 |
| subscious | what is sock_alloc_send_pskb? whenever that shows up in the system monitor thunar doesnt respond anymore | 14:37 |
| kahrn | has anyone considered stuff like remote samba browsing etc.. in thunar? | 14:37 |
| kahrn | I use /etc/fstab to mount my shares, but it'd be nice for thunar to have an extension or native network browser | 14:38 |
| kahrn | if not for new users that don't want to mess with command line/mounting/etc | 14:38 |
| subscious | im new and i managerd to mount my partitions .. | 14:41 |
| kahrn | yeah | 14:41 |
| subscious | i have to admit that i simply copied a line from a forum ;) | 14:41 |
| kahrn | but I'm talking about if I was going to set up a xubuntu machine for someone else | 14:41 |
| kahrn | and they needed remote samba shares for files | 14:42 |
| subscious | mybe someone arround can help me getting nagios3 to run ... i installed it via aptitude... | 14:42 |
| kahrn | as ubuntu/kubuntu have network browsers if I'm not mistaken | 14:44 |
| knome | kahrn, sion. it will be available for jaunty. also, thunar might get some more network capabilities soonish O:) | 14:45 |
| kahrn | cool | 14:45 |
| subscious | whats the diffrence between netbeans and netbeans platform? | 14:49 |
| subscious | or asked diffrently would it be reasonable to install both? or does one of them include the other? | 14:51 |
| subscious | how can i have those tiny symbols showing system relevant information on my panel? | 15:16 |
| gabkdlly | subscious: right click the panel, then pick "Add new item" | 15:22 |
| subscious | what happens if i did this "mv ~/downloads /downloads/" with that folder: ~/downloads/ ..? | 15:32 |
| subscious | erm "mv ~/downloads ~/downloads/" | 15:33 |
| kahrn | subscious, I installed netbeans and it pulled everything it needed in and worked fine | 15:40 |
| kahrn | I don't think netbeans-platform is required.. or maybe it's pulled in by netbeans | 15:40 |
| kahrn | I tend to use blueJ for java stuff though as I'm a student :) | 15:41 |
| HandOf0mega | Hi guys | 15:51 |
| HandOf0mega | Got a bit of a problem..... | 15:51 |
| HandOf0mega | Listen just crashed so I rebooted my comp, but now Xfce only shows the wallpaper & desktop icons & no bars @ top & bottom | 15:52 |
| HandOf0mega | Is this serious, or am I being dumb? :-S | 15:52 |
| * wemakeyousoundba thinks neither | 15:52 | |
| HandOf0mega | Is this an Xfce problem | 15:52 |
| HandOf0mega | ? | 15:53 |
| wemakeyousoundba | I can't remember, i think you need a terminal and: start xfce-panel | 15:53 |
| wemakeyousoundba | i'll check | 15:53 |
| HandOf0mega | hmmm, that doesn't work :-( | 15:54 |
| wemakeyousoundba | mybad: start xfce4-panel | 15:55 |
| wemakeyousoundba | try that | 15:55 |
| HandOf0mega | it says 'start: Unknown job: xfce4-panel' and i tried it wit sudo | 15:55 |
| wemakeyousoundba | try using run program to start it then >> alt + F2 | 15:57 |
| HandOf0mega | nope :-( | 15:58 |
| wemakeyousoundba | not sure what to suggest there, wait for more knowledgeable people I guess | 15:58 |
| HandOf0mega | ok, cheers anyway | 15:58 |
| wemakeyousoundba | to cheer you up: power cut killed my main computer MOBO last night :'( | 15:59 |
| HandOf0mega | whoa! that's gotta suck :-o | 16:00 |
| HandOf0mega | GOT IT! it was xfce4-panel | 16:01 |
| HandOf0mega | power here the other week | 16:01 |
| HandOf0mega | fucked my suse box up a bit | 16:01 |
| wemakeyousoundba | sorry for the wrong advice, I thought you had to put in start | 16:02 |
| wemakeyousoundba | D'oh! | 16:02 |
| HandOf0mega | it's ok :) | 16:03 |
| HandOf0mega | Hmm, just tried to log out, but it asks me if i wanna exit the xfce panel rather than shutdown the computer | 16:09 |
| subscious | what is this swap partition thing about? i wasnt able to set one up on a hdd! will i need to buy a swap drive for linux to run properly? | 16:12 |
| nunu | hi, can someone tell me how I can get my grub to a higher version? I need a version that suppoerts ext4 | 16:18 |
| nunu | do I need to dist-upgrade? If yes can I use the debian way in the sources.list (unstable instead of hardy)? | 16:19 |
| knome | no, unstable is not in ubuntu | 16:20 |
| subscious | ok ... nagios is not what i was searching for .... does anybody know good native system monitoring programs? | 16:20 |
| knome | subscious, what do you want to monitor? | 16:20 |
| knome | nunu, you have to upgrade to intrepid | 16:20 |
| subscious | all hdd activity | 16:20 |
| knome | !upgrade | nunu | 16:20 |
| ubottu | nunu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 16:20 |
| subscious | at best for every process | 16:20 |
| subscious | and memory activity and process activity ... | 16:21 |
| subscious | mmmm something like sysinternals process explorer registry monitor and file monitor | 16:21 |
| nunu | knome, whats intrepid? the system using ext4 is a gentoo system... | 16:22 |
| kahrn | subscious, you can use htop for monitoring process activity (or top, or xfce-system-monitor) | 16:22 |
| knome | nunu, intrepid is the most current version (8.10), hardy is the second newest (8.04) | 16:22 |
| nunu | ah ok | 16:23 |
| nunu | thx =) | 16:23 |
| subscious | kahrn does one of those feature hdd and memory activity? | 16:24 |
| knome | subscious, htop can show you mem activity. | 16:25 |
| kahrn | not hdd activity.. but that can be done with another command | 16:25 |
| kahrn | iostat | 16:25 |
| knome | subscious, suppose the others can as well, but i think htop can do it most explicitly | 16:25 |
| subscious | hdd activity for each process? | 16:25 |
| kahrn | hm | 16:26 |
| knome | subscious, no. mem/cpu activity for each process (can also be shown as treeviewed). | 16:26 |
| subscious | hdd activity is the most important tho | 16:27 |
| subscious | and network activity per process | 16:27 |
| kahrn | iostat can give hdd activity, but I don't think it can do it per process | 16:28 |
| knome | subscious, see atop (i'm not sure if it will help though, and you definitely need to read 'man atop') | 16:32 |
| InvaderZim | hello everyone | 16:39 |
| InvaderZim | I have a quick question | 16:39 |
| InvaderZim | I'm running Xubuntu on an old Pentium 2. | 16:40 |
| InvaderZim | the monitor's resolution should be 1024x768 at 85Hz | 16:42 |
| knome | !resolution | 16:43 |
| ubottu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution | 16:43 |
| InvaderZim | but it's stuck at 800x600 37.9 kHz/ 60Hz | 16:44 |
| InvaderZim | settings manager used to give me a resolution option for the recommended, but now it's gone | 16:45 |
| InvaderZim | can anyone tell me where it wet | 16:46 |
| InvaderZim | hello? | 16:49 |
| charlie-tca | hello | 16:50 |
| === wemakeyousoundba is now known as wemakeUsoundbad | ||
| InvaderZim | I'm running Xubuntu on an old Pentium 2. the monitor's resolution should be 1024x768 at 85Hz | 17:00 |
| InvaderZim | i had it that way as it was the recommendd setting | 17:01 |
| InvaderZim | but it changed, and the option inside of settings manager is gone | 17:01 |
| InvaderZim | is there a quick way to do it thru the CLI? | 17:01 |
| InvaderZim | is there anyone even here? | 17:06 |
| InvaderZim | someone please help me | 17:08 |
| InvaderZim | wow, so much for community support | 17:09 |
| alienkid | hi guys I have a big(?) proplem on my normal Linux install | 17:24 |
| alienkid | it won't connect to the internet at all and when I move my mouse over the network manager applet in the system tray it says "network manager nor running" what do I do? | 17:25 |
| alienkid | *"'network manager not running" | 17:27 |
| tajlero | do a rain dance and sign a prayer alienkid | 17:27 |
| alienkid | ? | 17:27 |
| alienkid | you have to be kidding me? Charlie do you know how to get it running again?? | 17:28 |
| zoredache | was it working before? | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | he is gone, zoredache | 17:34 |
| alienkid | ok I found a thread on the forums so i am going to reboot in to my install and try it out | 17:46 |
| kahrn | .. :| | 17:49 |
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| subscious1 | hey can someone tell me what the circle-labeld button on the top-left of a window is good for? | 18:18 |
| cody-somerville | subscious1, pinning | 18:19 |
| cody-somerville | It makes the window appear on all your virtual desktops | 18:19 |
| cody-somerville | (also called "workspaces") | 18:19 |
| subscious1 | cool thanks | 18:19 |
| === subscious1 is now known as subscious | ||
| gabkdlly | subscious: you can configure it away if you don't like it | 18:45 |
| gabkdlly | subscious: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Window Mangager -> Style -> Button Layout | 18:47 |
| === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla | ||
| cody-somerville | A Ubuntu Developer Week session on Xubuntu is starting in #ubuntu-classroom in a few minutes! Come join us! | 20:02 |
| === kahrn_ is now known as kahrn | ||
| migi | hello there | 21:07 |
| gabkdlly | migi: hi | 21:08 |
| migi | is this the place to ask questions regarding xubuntu? | 21:08 |
| gabkdlly | yes | 21:08 |
| gabkdlly | sometimes you get lucky and someone who knows your answer is ready to respond ;) | 21:08 |
| migi | alright. i am trying it now from the bootable cd. everything seems to be fine except that i don't know how to turn on my tv-out | 21:09 |
| migi | any ideas? | 21:09 |
| gabkdlly | I tried that once, over HDMI, I had to restart X to get it to work | 21:10 |
| migi | sorry, what's HDMI? | 21:10 |
| migi | & 'X'? | 21:10 |
| TheSheep | connecting the tv and running 'xrandr --auto' from terminal should make it work | 21:10 |
| gabkdlly | a protocol for digital video | 21:10 |
| gabkdlly | ah, TheSheep saves the day again :) | 21:10 |
| TheSheep | if that doesn't work, 'xrandr --output TV --auto' might work instead | 21:11 |
| migi | amazing! working perfectly! ta!!! | 21:12 |
| migi | maybe it's possible to do a so called 'extended desktop'? | 21:12 |
| TheSheep | !xinerama | 21:12 |
| ubottu | xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead | 21:12 |
| migi | and how to turn the monitor off then? write the same line again? | 21:13 |
| TheSheep | 'xrandr --output TV --off' | 21:14 |
| TheSheep | or disconnect it and do the auto thing | 21:14 |
| migi | ta! | 21:16 |
| migi | see you later! thanks a lot for your help! | 21:16 |
| Name141 | I have a problem with my external not working in 8.04 LTS. I run the install for 8.04 and it causes my external drive's light to go "red". And it hangs. However, I run the install for 8.10 and it doesn't hang up. Should I try to flip off the hard drive, install the OS, upgrade it, then flip back on the HD? Or would I be wasting my time as it wont work even after upgrade? I have problems with 8.10. | 21:55 |
| zoredache | Name141: I would be tempted to try the install with the disk disconnected. When does it go red? | 21:59 |
| Name141 | zoredache: right after Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu little animation starts to move about the boxes | 22:00 |
| zoredache | as soon as you boot the livecd, or after you start the install | 22:00 |
| Name141 | The 8.10 works, however the NIC doesn't work with it | 22:00 |
| Name141 | for some reason | 22:00 |
| Name141 | It makes my router flash , and I can't get a connection | 22:01 |
| zoredache | try booting the livecd, and then connecting the external drive. If that works, then instally 8.04 will probably work | 22:01 |
| Name141 | I even tried to manually set the IP | 22:01 |
| zoredache | Name141: why do you believe your nic will work in 8.04? has it worked there in the past, or are you just hoping it will? | 22:01 |
| Name141 | zoredache: 8.10 | 22:02 |
| Name141 | the NIC works in 8.04 LTS | 22:02 |
| Name141 | Which is why I want to install the LTS | 22:02 |
| zoredache | so you hand 8.04 installed and it worked before? | 22:02 |
| Name141 | That's correct. Until I got this new HD | 22:03 |
| Name141 | The HD causes hang ups for some reason | 22:03 |
| Name141 | And I haven't been back to *ubuntu to see if the upgrades fix it | 22:03 |
| Name141 | I also had a problem with 8.04 LTS, where I have to use f6, and type acpi=off | 22:04 |
| Name141 | for the installer to load | 22:04 |
| Name141 | zoredache: Anyway, I'll go try to Live version | 22:06 |
| live4ftjw | is there an admin in here who could help me out with a hard drive install of xubuntu 8.04.1? | 22:53 |
| live4ftjw | anyone? | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | What kind of help do you need? | 22:57 |
| live4ftjw | I would like to do a hd install of xubuntu 8.04.1 | 22:57 |
| live4ftjw | I am having one hell of a time trying to do so | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | What is happening? any error messages? | 22:58 |
| live4ftjw | I have grub4dos, I have successfully booted the install but it keeps asking for a cd and I cant bypass that | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | I do not know anything about grub4dos | 22:59 |
| live4ftjw | ight forget about grub4dos | 22:59 |
| live4ftjw | do you know about hd installs? | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | So, which cd are you using? Did it pass the cd integrity check? | 23:00 |
| live4ftjw | I'm not using a cd at all | 23:00 |
| live4ftjw | I do not have access to a burner at this time | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry, I don't think I can help you. | 23:00 |
| live4ftjw | damn | 23:00 |
| live4ftjw | you've never done an install with out a cd? | 23:00 |
| live4ftjw | strictly using an iso | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | Only to virtual box, which sees the image as a cd in a virtual cd drive. | 23:01 |
| live4ftjw | can that be run from windows?. | 23:01 |
| live4ftjw | ok i have to eat just leave the resonse so I can read it when i return, thanks for trying | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | You should be able to use WUBI from windows. | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | !wubi | 23:02 |
| ubottu | Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. | 23:02 |
| live4ftjw | ya i tried that already | 23:18 |
| live4ftjw | didnt work | 23:18 |
| live4ftjw | well it did it's job of putting the files on the hd but I couldnt get the installation to work | 23:19 |
| live4ftjw | that was looking for a cd as well | 23:19 |
| live4ftjw | any admins that know about how to use wubi or to do a hd install using strictly an iso, grub, kernel, and ram-disk? | 23:21 |
| live4ftjw | anyone able to help me out here? | 23:24 |
| live4ftjw | anyone alive out there? | 23:25 |
| fonzarelli | hi | 23:26 |
| live4ftjw | hey | 23:26 |
| fonzarelli | live4ftjw: did you ask your question yet, i just showed up | 23:26 |
| live4ftjw | yes i did, you an admin?. | 23:27 |
| fonzarelli | no | 23:27 |
| live4ftjw | well then you may not be able to help me | 23:27 |
| fonzarelli | ah, k | 23:27 |
| live4ftjw | unless you know how to do an hd install with out using a cd | 23:27 |
| fonzarelli | live4ftjw: did you see this? its for ubuntu, but i bet it would work for xubuntu as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948 | 23:28 |
| charlie-tca | live4ftjw: I don't think you will have much luck with admins. We are all volunteers here. | 23:28 |
| live4ftjw | well any volunteer that can help me is more than welcome to | 23:29 |
| live4ftjw | the only thing I didnt try on that forum message was to use the windows partition | 23:30 |
| live4ftjw | maybe thats why all of this is not working | 23:30 |
| live4ftjw | alright thanks to all of those that tried to help, I'm going to take another stab, hopefully this one works | 23:31 |
| Araneidae | Trying to copy a CD with surprisingly little luck. `sudo dd if=/dev/scd0 of=file.iso bs=1024` reports "dd: reading `/dev/scd0': Input/output error" -- not so helpful. Any ideas? | 23:46 |
| TheSheep | Araneidae: scratched cd | 23:47 |
| TheSheep | most likely | 23:47 |
| Araneidae | Afraid not. OSX is reading very happily | 23:47 |
| Araneidae | Actually, Sound Juicer read it -- but balked when I tried to insert a blank to write to | 23:47 |
| === Flare183_ is now known as Flare183 | ||
| Araneidae | I'm not getting any kind of desktop mount when I insert the CD ... but then it's an audio CD, so presumably that's normal... | 23:50 |
| TheSheep | is it a cd made by Sony? | 23:54 |
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