kwwiidoes the kde4 kmail now work with imap?00:30
jussi01kwwii: its been working for a good while now afaik00:49
kwwiijussi01: erm, not on my system...it crashes again and again00:54
kwwiiand if it doesn't crash it simply doesn't work00:54
kwwiiit works fine with the kde3 version00:54
jussi01kwwii: weird. you are on the old packages or the 4.2 ones?00:54
kwwiiI have tried both imap and disconnected imap00:54
kwwiijussi01: I am running intrepid with the old packages I guess00:55
kwwiiI want to update to jaunty on my laptop but it is currently running hardy (with kde3 where it works)00:55
jussi01kwwii: ahh. Im using 4.2 and it works here00:56
kwwiiif I loose my imap account I will no longer get my kde emails00:56
kwwiimaybe I should update my intrepid install then00:56
kwwiithis just sicks00:56
kwwiiI happen to rely on this stuff for work00:56
kwwiiif I click on the namespaces edit icon it simply crashes00:57
* seele waves at kwwii 00:58
jussi01kwwii: very weird. have you considered the other kde4 client out there?00:58
kwwiiwhich one is that?00:58
jussi01hello seele!00:58
kwwiiI use kmail because it has all the features I need00:59
kwwiihi seele :-)00:59
jussi01hrm, trying to remember the name00:59
kwwiiI am about ready to (gulp) use thunderbird or something00:59
kwwiiI really need to update this laptop to jaunty00:59
jussi01!info mailody00:59
ubottumailody (source: mailody): fast IMAP mail user agent for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-4 (intrepid), package size 388 kB, installed size 1400 kB00:59
kwwiibut the kde4 packages on my hardy install and intrepid simply don't work with imap01:00
jussi01kwwii: not sure if the kde4 ones are there yet01:00
kwwiiouch, nope...I don't think I need an extra email app01:00
kwwiikde4 has just pissed me off to be honest01:00
* jussi01 huggles kwwii01:01
kwwiiit looks sooo nice and is soo much faster but only has half the functions of kde301:01
jussi01kwwii: 4.2 rc1 is a big improvemnt imho.01:01
kwwiiI mean, I am old-school kde...but this just makes me want to switch to something that works01:01
kwwiiright, which means extra work and extra risk01:01
kwwiioh well01:02
kwwiithanks for the info01:02
kwwiikde seems to be trying to kill itself these days...sad01:02
* jussi01 is sad kwwii has had a bad experience01:03
kwwiijussi01: you cannot imagine how strongly I feel the same way01:07
kwwiikmail is simply the best email client which exists01:07
kwwiiI love it01:08
kwwiiand the kde4 version is soo much faster01:08
kwwiibut this is breaking my back01:08
kwwiiI need it01:08
kwwiioh well, time for sleep01:08
kwwiiit can wait another day01:08
kwwiijussi01: thanks for the help01:08
kwwiiseele: when do you start at canonical? :p01:09
kwwiiI am going to ask that every time I see you in hope that one day it might happen :)01:09
seelekwwii: hah01:10
seelekwwii: i dont really feel like moving to london now that we've got a decent president :)01:10
seelekwwii: and i dont know if the UX team is too happy with me atm.  we've been discussing my divergent view on notifications01:10
kwwiiseele: I almost cried when I heard that Obama won...and the same agin at the inauguration01:11
kwwiiseele: no worries, I think they will get a *lot* of shit once that stuff gets out in the wild01:11
seelekwwii: yeah.. i think the entire world is excited about it hehe01:11
kwwiibut don't say I said that01:11
* seele hopes he doesn't let us down01:11
kwwiiyeah, me too...he cannot be perfect but so many people expect him to be01:12
seelewell, he would have to try pretty hard to meet bush standards, so i think we'll be ok01:12
kwwiiI guess I don't have to worry about imap support, Obama will fix it01:12
kwwiiit would be hard to do worse :p01:13
usrHi! Does anyone know if they had considered to use SMPlayer as default media player for Kubuntu 9.04? It is better than Dragon Player, and Kaffeine isn't yet ported to KDE4.02:19
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torkianousr: SMPlayer uses phonon?02:28
usrI don't know, it uses mplayer, and qt4 only02:30
torkianommmm, then I don't believe that kubuntu developers consider it to replace dragonplayer02:31
usrO.K., it was only to give the idea, because is a great media player. Thank you. :-)02:38
torkianousr: yeah, i'm only a user, not a developer. But dragon is great too ;-). (I'm downloadding smplayer now to try)02:41
usryes, yes, I know that you are only a user, but thanks for your answer also02:43
usradd "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/ubuntu intrepid main" to get the latest version02:44
usrif you have problems with the sound, select "openal" audio output in SMPlayer02:46
ScottK-laptopScottK: Ping test04:12
apacheloggerkwwii: actually akonadi ought to solve the imap issue ... in theory at least ;-)08:48
apacheloggerobviously a lot of people in here use quassel :P09:16
jussi01apachelogger: thats cause quassel rocks? :D09:30
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Quintasanapachelogger: Could you find some time to help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/290304?10:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290304 in skim "Skim has no KMenu icon" [Low,Triaged]10:01
apacheloggerQuintasan: well, you have to change the install path of the icon10:02
Quintasanapachelogger: yeah, but I can't find it -_-'10:02
apacheloggerthat can either be archived by fiddeling with the .install file (if there is any) or by moving the file after install in debian/rules10:03
apacheloggeror by patching the Makefiles to use the right path10:03
apacheloggeroh, nice enough, the package got a skim.install, so I would go with that approach10:04
Quintasanand the right place would be cd /usr/share/icons/default.kde4 ?10:05
apacheloggerQuintasan: see the dh_install manpage for the syntax you have to use in order to install it to usr/share/hicolor rather than .../crystalsvg10:05
Quintasanah, ok, thanks10:05
apacheloggerQuintasan: only hicolor gets inherit by all desktop's no matter what icon set the user defined10:05
apacheloggerkmail just wiped out my inbox10:36
jpdsapachelogger: I hope you have backups.10:36
apacheloggernow must be a perfect time to abandon it and go use software that actually supports imap10:36
apacheloggerjpds: I wouldn't be using kmail if I didn't do backups on both ends ;-)10:37
knusperfroschtried to compile kdenetwork with neonmake, got a linker error: libQtGui.so.4: undefined reference to `QCoreApplicationPrivate::checkReceiverThread(QObject*)10:53
knusperfroschhmm k, lookslike this was a icecc issue11:07
knusperfroschwasn't a icecc issue: according to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-711151.html qt-core should have been built with debug symbols. i guess i'm missing a package?11:15
Quintasanapachelogger: I changed the path in skim.install, however I'm having problems with pbuilder. First it stopped at "rm /tmp/buildd/skim-1.4.5/debian/tmp/usr/share/autostart/skim.desktop" saying the file doesn't exists, so i commented the line. Then it failed at "dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --fail-missing". Here is the build log: http://wklej.org/id/43680/11:25
apacheloggerQuintasan: actually the build fails11:26
apacheloggerscons: *** [utils/libscim-kdeutils.la] TypeError : cannot concatenate 'str' and 'list' objects11:26
apacheloggermake: [install-stamp] Error 2 (ignored)11:26
apacheloggerQuintasan: what arch are you on?11:27
apacheloggermaybe the cause11:27
apacheloggerIMHO the package should just be removed from the archives anyway ;-)11:28
knusperfroschwhich package owns /opt/project-neon/lib/libQtGui.so ?11:30
apacheloggerdpkg -S11:34
knusperfroschthx just found it. but qt seems to be built with dbg anyways11:34
apacheloggeroff topic anyway11:34
ubottu#kubuntu-devel is the development channel for Kubuntu, please use #kubuntu for support questions and #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks11:35
knusperfroschapachelogger: is there a channel for neon?12:53
jussi01knusperfrosch: #amarok.neon13:01
knusperfroschjussi01: thx13:03
apacheloggerwifi is so incredibly broken it's not even funny13:08
danimoapachelogger: broken wifi is never fun...13:26
danimoapachelogger: but I guess you mean in network manager13:26
apacheloggerdanimo: mostly, then again when network manager is broken you gotta spend half an hour fixing up the wpasupplicant13:27
apacheloggerall good now \o/13:28
danimoapachelogger: I have that problem since about 3 or 4 kubuntu releases13:30
danimoapachelogger: is that a KDE problem? a general ubuntu problem? or NM in general?13:31
danimoapachelogger: all other ubuntu users seem to be perfectly happy with it13:31
danimo(gnome users, that is)13:31
apacheloggerdanimo: KDE mostly AFAIK13:31
apacheloggerwill all be good once the NM plasmoid is finished13:31
apacheloggerat least I hope so13:31
danimoapachelogger: *sight*, can't we just use nm-applet then and integrate it withh kwallet?13:32
danimoapachelogger: last thing I heard it was terribly broken13:32
apacheloggerdanimo: I don't think that would fit on the CD, nm-applet pulls in loads of GNOME stuff13:32
apacheloggerif the knetworkconf thing wouldn't be so broken, I would have considered that an option ... but well...13:33
danimoapachelogger: well, we have to face the fact that those who work on nm use nm-applet as the frontend, which is why it effectively works best13:34
alleeHoldanimo: sent the nm developers a fresh CD with KDE 4.2.   When they try they some may help with knetworkmanager in the future :)13:37
Sputnm-applet didn't work for me when I tried it in KDE, this gnome keyring crap stored the WPA password as a hash, and then decided to spit it out again as a hash when asked for it13:38
Sput(that wasn't on *buntu though)13:38
Sputah yes, and it pulled in > 50 gnome packages.13:38
seeleincluding recommended packages?13:39
Sputseele: that was all required deps (on Gentoo though, we probably pack Gnome a bit more fine-grained than *buntu)13:40
Sputbut it seemed a tad too much for a simple systray applet13:40
Sputall for figuring out that it wouldn't work, because the password hash obviously does not help with associating.13:41
Nightrosekubotu: ping13:49
alleeHolMhm, Tonio uploaded p-nm yesterday.  My tries ...13:50
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CruX|hello all, I just updated my system to kbuntu 8.10, and i have problem with my keyboard. I set my keyboard rate with "xset r rate 200 70". All keys are working with exception of downarrow and leftarrow - wait delay is much bigger than 200 ms. What's wrong ? on kubuntu 8.04 it worked.15:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-devel15:35
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu-devel's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:35
seeleCruX|: #kubuntu for help15:36
seelethis is a development channel15:36
CruX|what are you developping scripts ?15:36
ubottuThe official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only.15:37
seelepackaging, software, defaults, etc.15:37
CruX|if yes i have another problem when my pc wakes up i must execute /etc/init.d/networking restart to bring eth0 up15:37
CruX|is it my problem only ?15:37
seeleCruX|: #kubuntu for support please15:38
apacheloggerRiddell: please assign bug 319245 some status and importance15:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 319245 in kdebase "konqueror resume dialogue unclear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31924515:47
apacheloggeras a matter of speaking: "the bug gets in the way of bug triage :P"15:48
* ScottK notes plasmoid-windowslist sitting on REVU looking for a 2nd advocate.15:51
ScottKapachelogger: ^^15:51
apacheloggerScottK: can you please upload, I am not at home right now15:56
apacheloggerScottK: ok, I'm archving16:01
ScottKJust test building, one more time ...16:02
ScottKSo we've got consolekit, packagekit, xkit, etc.16:04
ScottKIs the meta system to manage all this kitkit?16:04
Tm_TScottK: no, kit200016:05
* Tm_T hides from Hasselhoff16:05
apacheloggeroi vei16:06
ScottK_neversfelde and apachelogger:  Uploaded.16:13
claydohis there going to be a Kubuntu 8.04.2?16:13
ScottK_neversfelde: Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.16:13
ScottKclaydoh: Don't think so.  It's not LTS.16:13
apacheloggeroh oh16:14
claydohquestions are arising, especially as there was a kubuntu 8.04.116:14
apacheloggerthere was a kubuntu 8.04.1? Oo16:14
claydohScottK: I assumed as much there16:14
apacheloggerclaydoh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu could you please drop the pre-intrepid stuff to subpages?16:14
apacheloggerclaydoh: the old information seems rather pointless for most users16:15
apacheloggerk, thx :)16:15
apachelogger~order cookie for claydoh16:15
* kubotu slides one of world's finest cookies down the bar to claydoh.16:15
claydohme is working on a quassel-for-dummies as well today16:15
claydohyou don't wan't to keep some stuff for hardy there ?16:16
ScottKapachelogger: He has a point.16:17
claydohapachelogger: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04.1/release/16:17
apacheloggernah, all to subpages16:17
apacheloggerwith visible links to them16:17
apacheloggerdid we do 8.04.1 DVD-only?16:18
* apachelogger only sees dvd :P16:18
apacheloggeranyway, why did we get 8.04.1 but not .2?16:19
ScottKMaybe no one asked.16:19
* ScottK looks at Riddell for wisdom.16:19
apacheloggerwe do have ask for that? Oo16:19
apacheloggeroh my16:19
claydohmost seem to be gnome fixes, but there are a few underlying things there as well, from looking at the changes16:19
* claydoh prepares for the firestorms in the fora/ml's ;)16:21
ScottKWe've also gone to KDE
ScottKThat'd be a big deal.16:22
* claydoh forgot that16:22
claydohgood point16:22
claydohif you download the iso for 8.04 from kubuntu.org,  you get the 8.04.1 cd image, wonder why the cdimage site only has the dvd16:26
nixternalgood morning kubuntu!16:35
claydohgood morning nixternal16:40
neversfeldeScottK, apachelogger: thank you16:44
Ramblurrwhat's the package name for qt assistant?16:54
Ramblurr all i can find is libqt4-assistant16:54
apacheloggerRamblurr: qt4-assistant I suppose17:19
MalikLamindoes anybody know an intersting GUI for editing linux code17:20
Ramblurr:No candidate version found for qt4-assistant17:20
apacheloggerRamblurr: qt4-dev-tools: /usr/bin/assistant-qt417:21
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon17:21
apacheloggerMalikLamin: please define "linux code"17:21
MalikLaminsorry, linux kernel17:22
apacheloggervim ;-)17:22
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code17:22
MalikLaminare you crazy17:22
apacheloggerMalikLamin: what is wrong with vim?17:22
MalikLamini'd like a interactive IDE, i cant get flexibility with vim17:23
MalikLaminI will try kdevelop17:26
Ramblurrapachelogger: thanks17:26
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "live in moscow" by Faithless17:29
nixternalanyone else having issues with jaunty, today latest updates, with intel video?17:39
tsdgeosthere are plasma dbg packages?17:44
tsdgeosoh yes17:45
tsdgeoskdelibs and kdebase -dbg17:45
* tsdgeos goes home :D17:45
jpdstsdgeos: You can install debug packages from ddebs.ubuntu.com17:45
Riddellkdebase-workspace-dbg or add "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com jaunty main"  and install kdebase-workspace-bin-dbgsym17:46
tsdgeosRiddell: what's the difference?17:46
ScottKRiddell: Any idea about 8.04.2 CD images for Kubuntu?17:48
ghostcubehi guys its me again17:54
ghostcubei updated today from proposed and now amarok tells me an error at startup17:55
nixternalx-session-manager[3989]: WARNING: Detected that screensaver has left the bus17:55
nixternalhahahahahah, my screensaver didn't like the bus, so it left :p17:55
ghostcubeoh it likes walking more ?17:55
nixternalthat or it didn't pay its fare17:55
nixternalI guess so17:55
apacheloggertdomhan: I don't suppose there is any difference, ddebs holds a more complete set of debug packages (due to autogeneration) though ... which doesn't really matter for KDE because all our stuff got -dbg packages anyway18:03
tsdgeosapachelogger: ok ;-)18:03
ghostcubehmm forget it now i dont get the error on startup18:04
* ghostcube thinks kde4 is playing tricks on him18:05
apacheloggerrgreening, vorian: you have to be more careful with version bumps ... you made oxygen-icons-kde replace dolphin << 4.2.0 for no apparent reason while not bumping some real dependencies18:06
claydohapachelogger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu/Edgy18:08
claydohapachelogger: should I perhaps expand on the 'adding third party repositories' area?18:09
ScottKclaydoh: I don't think third party stuff should be there.18:10
apacheloggerScottK: _we_ are third party when deploying stuff via PPA18:10
apacheloggerclaydoh: btw, I think feisty can be removed completely18:11
apacheloggerif I am not mistaken feisty is out of support anyway18:11
ScottKIt is.18:11
claydohone area I often see newbie problems is incorrect urls in the repo line18:11
ScottKI don't think 3rd party of any kind should go there.18:11
apacheloggerScottK: it's community docs after all18:12
ghostcubebug 25446818:13
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/254468/+text)18:13
claydohI was just thinking of a shot of that section, more or less, and aren't the commercial repos listed there anyway?18:13
apacheloggerstdin_: is ubottu brokenish recently?18:13
apacheloggerstdin_: or is it launchpad?18:13
ScottKIt's more LP is slow18:13
Arbyapachelogger: Riddell: anyone else What else needs to be on here?18:14
ScottKThe Edgy and before page should get called Dapper.18:14
ghostcubeis anyone here doing backporting ?18:15
ghostcubeand can may tell me if this bug will pass backporting commit18:15
apacheloggerArby: maybe a coulmn to mark if it has been fixed18:15
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/254468/+text)18:15
apacheloggerArby: or how it has been fixed18:15
ghostcubeubottu, youre timeout sux :P18:15
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:15
ghostcubei know18:16
Arbyapachelogger: yeah, fair point18:16
tsdgeosapachelogger: there are no digikam packages one can have installed togheter with the 4.2rc1 packages in intrepid?18:16
ScottKghostcube: It's Launchpad not the bot that's the problem18:16
ghostcubeScottK, yeah but i can only blame the bot for now lol18:16
apacheloggertsdgeos: there might be somewhere, Lure would know18:16
ScottKghostcube: SRU, not backport for that.18:17
tsdgeosi'm already missing my old installtion :D18:17
ghostcubeScottK, means18:17
apacheloggertsdgeos: https://edge.launchpad.net/~digikam-experimental/+archive/ppa maybe18:18
apacheloggerI guess we'll create a much more usable package stack in the kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa once 4.2.0 is out18:18
tsdgeosapachelogger: please :D18:19
tsdgeoslet me try that though18:19
apacheloggerScottK: do you know where jonny is?18:19
ScottKHe said he'd be offline all weekend18:19
ScottKghostcube: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates18:19
Arbyapachelogger: column added18:20
apacheloggerScottK: taking a break? ;-)18:20
ScottKI think more like drug off by his parents somewhere.18:21
Arbyapachelogger: are the instructions correct?18:21
Arbyand what do we want people to do with the debdiff once they're done18:21
ghostcubeScottK, that would result in not fixing this bug in inteprid18:21
Arbywe don't especially want dozens of bug reports18:21
ScottKghostcube: No.  It means preparing a patch to go into intrepid-proposed and test it.18:22
apacheloggerArby: I would go with one bug report affecting all packages18:22
apacheloggerArby: some packages don't exist anymore anyway18:23
apacheloggerlike libkonq418:23
ghostcubethis would be the best proposed release in the last months18:23
Arbyok, I haven't started checking the lists yet18:23
apacheloggerArby: can be done by those who are helping anyway18:23
apacheloggermore time efficient IMHO18:24
Arbyok I'll create the bug then send a mail to the list18:24
ghostcubethis bug is really annoing18:24
apacheloggerArby: in control there might be more to edit than just the build-dep18:24
ScottKI agree18:24
apacheloggerArby: best would be to search for arts18:25
Arbyapachelogger: I just quoted what you said the other day :P18:25
Arbysomething I'm still confused by.18:25
apacheloggerArby: also searching the .install files before testbuilding could help squash obvious stuff18:25
Arbyaren't we going to break some functionality in certain apps?18:26
ghostcubeScottK, i know you dont support compiz but could this solve the redraw prob with the nvidia loose-binding option , if you know about this18:26
ArbyI don't especially feel like being yelled at because we broke $app18:26
apacheloggerArby: that is really up to the developer who edits $app :P18:26
apacheloggerArby: outside of KDE land everything that depends on arts ought to be compiled without it without problem18:27
ScottKghostcube: The problem happens on my Intel box too.18:27
apacheloggerArby: so there we would just remove unusable functionallity18:27
ArbyI'm thinking about things like mythtv and friends18:27
ghostcubeoh i thought only nvidia and ati related18:27
apacheloggerArby: and inside KDE land there might be apps that actually need arts tow rok18:27
Xand3rhey ho18:27
ScottKghostcube: AFAIK it's everything.18:27
apacheloggerArby: mythtv probably just supports arts as a sound daemon18:27
Xand3rapachelogger: what are the 4.1.4 SRU bugs doing?18:28
apacheloggerArby: like audacious18:28
apacheloggerXand3r: ask ScottK18:28
Xand3rapachelogger: i am afraid18:28
Arbyapachelogger: is it worth cross posting to ubuntu-devel in case anybody has any burning objections?18:28
ScottKXand3r: They are waiting for people to add comments saying how wonderful 4.1.4 is.18:29
Arbyor is that just likely to upset people for cross posting18:29
ScottKArby: ubuntu-devel is appropriate if there are non-KDE packages.18:29
apacheloggerArby: what ScottK said ;-)18:29
ghostcubehmmm so far 4.1.4 works here18:30
ghostcubethe one bug from amarok didnt happen again18:30
Xand3rScottK: is it equal from whom the comment comes?18:30
Arbywell as I said, things like mplayer and mythtv are non-KDE so I guess I cross post18:31
ghostcubei never get mythtv to work :D18:31
ghostcubegood luck18:31
ScottKghostcube: Please say so in the relevant bugs: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&fi18:32
ScottKXand3r: Yes.18:32
ScottKPretty much anyway.18:33
Xand3rkk i will ask some from the germanspeaking community18:33
Xand3rScottK: ^18:33
ScottKActually verification reports from people not invlolved in the packaging are better.18:33
apacheloggerXand3r: perfect ... or  ... perfeKt :P18:34
* apachelogger compiles 3 packages at the same time18:34
ghostcubeScottK, so i need to comment all packages :)18:35
Xand3rapachelogger: you know the k is magic18:35
ScottKghostcube: Yes.18:35
ghostcube:D long run18:36
ScottKExcept the bluetooth one.  We got plenty on that one already18:36
* ScottK wishes for a script to "Open all the bugs on listed on this page in new tabs".18:37
ghostcubebut one thing is still a prob should be mentioned somehow that starting this damn teacooker applet will stop jackd from loading heh cause plasma grabs hw:018:38
ScottKghostcube: So far no one else can reproduce that problem.18:39
ScottKI think you should mention it though.18:39
ghostcubeScottK, hmm nah a|wen had it too yesterday18:39
ScottKAh.  OK.18:39
ScottKMissed that.18:39
ScottKNeed to look into it.  He's a good person to do it.18:40
ghostcube<a|wen-> dtchen: it didn't grab raw here the first time ... but now i can't get it to stop grabbing raw :)18:40
ghostcubeit highjacks the hw:0 rofl18:41
ScottKIf we could get you and dtchen together to investigate it, that'd be great as he understands the sound stuff better than anyone I know.18:41
ScottKHe's not around a lot though...18:42
ScottKVery busy18:42
ghostcubeno prob but maybe this would explain some question in the forums i found abput why jackd not starting18:42
ghostcubeand no one had opened anything18:42
Arbyapachelogger: how do we want this arts thing to work for people who already have upload privileges?18:45
Arbyi.e. do we still want a debdiff to review for QA18:45
Arbyor can people upload their own work18:45
apacheloggerArby: what else would we want?18:45
Arbypeople who can upload do, people who can't attach a debdiff18:46
Arbyor everyone attaches a debdiff so that it can be reviewed18:47
apacheloggerArby: former18:47
apacheloggerthere is no point in having developers attach a debdiff ;-)18:47
Arbywe still have reviews for ninja packaging18:49
Arbyeven for developers :)18:49
Arbyanyway bug 32091518:50
apacheloggerwe have reviews for those who don't usually have upload rights18:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 320915 in arts "Remove aRts from the archive - rebuild all dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32091518:50
Arbye-mail to follow later18:51
apacheloggerArby: maybe also mention ... if the package _can_ be fixed to not depend on arts, it should be marked as affected and closed in the changelog entry18:55
Arbyapachelogger: do you mean put LP#: 320915 (or whatever it is) in the changelog entry?18:56
Arbybtw, what do we do if a package can't be fixed to not depend on arts? keep arts?18:57
apacheloggerArby: 1) yes 2) either that or we remove the package ... depends on the package really :)18:57
apacheloggeror push upstream to change $apps behaviour so we can drop arts18:58
Arbyok, got to go for now, biab18:59
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blizzzwon't there be the 8.04.2 release for kubuntu?19:16
apacheloggerwe don't know19:18
apacheloggerdoesn't seem so though19:18
blizzzwhat does it depends on?19:19
apacheloggerblizzz: if release team is actually in mood to get us one19:22
blizzzok. ty apachelogger19:23
Arbyapachelogger: anything I need to add to this before I send it.20:07
apacheloggerArby: is the bug mentioned on the wiki page?20:14
apacheloggerif not, you should add it ... mail is good20:15
Arbyby number yes, I'll add a link in a sec20:15
Arbymail sent20:17
ghostcubewho is making the kde classic menu applet :)20:47
ghostcubei have a feature request if its not already done20:49
Arbyghostcube: we don't really do feature addition, that happens upstream in KDE20:50
Arbyif it's a plasma applet then someone in #plasma will likely know20:51
ghostcubeArby, hmm ok20:59
Arbyapachelogger: ping?21:51
Arbylooking at arts stuff libsdl1.2debian-arts  looks pretty useless without arts21:51
Arbyshould it be marked for removal from the archive?21:51
Arbylikewise liballegro4.2-plugin-arts21:52
claydohwell I have not fin ished the quassel how-to completely :(22:32
claydohI eas sidetracked by an online shopping session22:33
* claydoh loves getting a bonus check by surprisse22:33
* claydoh gets to have a running desktop soon w00t!22:35
ScottK-palmHow goes it?22:38
jussi01heya ScottK-palm :) it goes ok :)22:42
* Sput just came back from a really nice evening with markey, Mamarok, Claudia Rauch et. al.23:53

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