| kwwii | evening | 00:30 |
|---|---|---|
| kwwii | does the kde4 kmail now work with imap? | 00:30 |
| jussi01 | kwwii: its been working for a good while now afaik | 00:49 |
| kwwii | jussi01: erm, not on my system...it crashes again and again | 00:54 |
| kwwii | and if it doesn't crash it simply doesn't work | 00:54 |
| kwwii | it works fine with the kde3 version | 00:54 |
| jussi01 | kwwii: weird. you are on the old packages or the 4.2 ones? | 00:54 |
| kwwii | I have tried both imap and disconnected imap | 00:54 |
| kwwii | jussi01: I am running intrepid with the old packages I guess | 00:55 |
| kwwii | I want to update to jaunty on my laptop but it is currently running hardy (with kde3 where it works) | 00:55 |
| jussi01 | kwwii: ahh. Im using 4.2 and it works here | 00:56 |
| kwwii | if I loose my imap account I will no longer get my kde emails | 00:56 |
| kwwii | hrm | 00:56 |
| kwwii | maybe I should update my intrepid install then | 00:56 |
| kwwii | this just sicks | 00:56 |
| kwwii | sucks | 00:56 |
| kwwii | I happen to rely on this stuff for work | 00:56 |
| kwwii | :( | 00:56 |
| kwwii | if I click on the namespaces edit icon it simply crashes | 00:57 |
| * seele waves at kwwii | 00:58 | |
| jussi01 | kwwii: very weird. have you considered the other kde4 client out there? | 00:58 |
| kwwii | which one is that? | 00:58 |
| jussi01 | hello seele! | 00:58 |
| kwwii | I use kmail because it has all the features I need | 00:59 |
| kwwii | hi seele :-) | 00:59 |
| jussi01 | hrm, trying to remember the name | 00:59 |
| kwwii | I am about ready to (gulp) use thunderbird or something | 00:59 |
| kwwii | I really need to update this laptop to jaunty | 00:59 |
| jussi01 | !info mailody | 00:59 |
| ubottu | mailody (source: mailody): fast IMAP mail user agent for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-4 (intrepid), package size 388 kB, installed size 1400 kB | 00:59 |
| kwwii | but the kde4 packages on my hardy install and intrepid simply don't work with imap | 01:00 |
| jussi01 | kwwii: not sure if the kde4 ones are there yet | 01:00 |
| kwwii | ouch, nope...I don't think I need an extra email app | 01:00 |
| kwwii | kde4 has just pissed me off to be honest | 01:00 |
| * jussi01 huggles kwwii | 01:01 | |
| kwwii | it looks sooo nice and is soo much faster but only has half the functions of kde3 | 01:01 |
| jussi01 | kwwii: 4.2 rc1 is a big improvemnt imho. | 01:01 |
| kwwii | I mean, I am old-school kde...but this just makes me want to switch to something that works | 01:01 |
| kwwii | right, which means extra work and extra risk | 01:01 |
| kwwii | boah | 01:02 |
| kwwii | oh well | 01:02 |
| kwwii | thanks for the info | 01:02 |
| kwwii | kde seems to be trying to kill itself these days...sad | 01:02 |
| * jussi01 is sad kwwii has had a bad experience | 01:03 | |
| kwwii | jussi01: you cannot imagine how strongly I feel the same way | 01:07 |
| kwwii | kmail is simply the best email client which exists | 01:07 |
| kwwii | I love it | 01:08 |
| kwwii | and the kde4 version is soo much faster | 01:08 |
| kwwii | but this is breaking my back | 01:08 |
| kwwii | I need it | 01:08 |
| kwwii | oh well, time for sleep | 01:08 |
| kwwii | it can wait another day | 01:08 |
| kwwii | jussi01: thanks for the help | 01:08 |
| kwwii | seele: when do you start at canonical? :p | 01:09 |
| kwwii | I am going to ask that every time I see you in hope that one day it might happen :) | 01:09 |
| seele | kwwii: hah | 01:10 |
| seele | kwwii: i dont really feel like moving to london now that we've got a decent president :) | 01:10 |
| seele | kwwii: and i dont know if the UX team is too happy with me atm. we've been discussing my divergent view on notifications | 01:10 |
| kwwii | seele: I almost cried when I heard that Obama won...and the same agin at the inauguration | 01:11 |
| kwwii | seele: no worries, I think they will get a *lot* of shit once that stuff gets out in the wild | 01:11 |
| seele | kwwii: yeah.. i think the entire world is excited about it hehe | 01:11 |
| kwwii | but don't say I said that | 01:11 |
| * seele hopes he doesn't let us down | 01:11 | |
| kwwii | yeah, me too...he cannot be perfect but so many people expect him to be | 01:12 |
| seele | well, he would have to try pretty hard to meet bush standards, so i think we'll be ok | 01:12 |
| kwwii | I guess I don't have to worry about imap support, Obama will fix it | 01:12 |
| kwwii | it would be hard to do worse :p | 01:13 |
| jussi01 | rofl | 01:13 |
| usr | Hi! Does anyone know if they had considered to use SMPlayer as default media player for Kubuntu 9.04? It is better than Dragon Player, and Kaffeine isn't yet ported to KDE4. | 02:19 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| torkiano | usr: SMPlayer uses phonon? | 02:28 |
| usr | I don't know, it uses mplayer, and qt4 only | 02:30 |
| usr | http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/ | 02:30 |
| torkiano | mmmm, then I don't believe that kubuntu developers consider it to replace dragonplayer | 02:31 |
| usr | O.K., it was only to give the idea, because is a great media player. Thank you. :-) | 02:38 |
| torkiano | usr: yeah, i'm only a user, not a developer. But dragon is great too ;-). (I'm downloadding smplayer now to try) | 02:41 |
| usr | yes, yes, I know that you are only a user, but thanks for your answer also | 02:43 |
| usr | add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/ubuntu intrepid main" to get the latest version | 02:44 |
| usr | if you have problems with the sound, select "openal" audio output in SMPlayer | 02:46 |
| ScottK-laptop | ScottK: Ping test | 04:12 |
| apachelogger | kwwii: actually akonadi ought to solve the imap issue ... in theory at least ;-) | 08:48 |
| apachelogger | obviously a lot of people in here use quassel :P | 09:16 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: thats cause quassel rocks? :D | 09:30 |
| apachelogger | possibly | 09:32 |
| === Quintasa1 is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Could you find some time to help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/290304? | 10:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 290304 in skim "Skim has no KMenu icon" [Low,Triaged] | 10:01 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: well, you have to change the install path of the icon | 10:02 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: yeah, but I can't find it -_-' | 10:02 |
| apachelogger | that can either be archived by fiddeling with the .install file (if there is any) or by moving the file after install in debian/rules | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | or by patching the Makefiles to use the right path | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | oh, nice enough, the package got a skim.install, so I would go with that approach | 10:04 |
| Quintasan | and the right place would be cd /usr/share/icons/default.kde4 ? | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: see the dh_install manpage for the syntax you have to use in order to install it to usr/share/hicolor rather than .../crystalsvg | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | eh | 10:05 |
| Quintasan | ah, ok, thanks | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | /usr/share/icons/hicolor | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: only hicolor gets inherit by all desktop's no matter what icon set the user defined | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | kmail just wiped out my inbox | 10:36 |
| jpds | apachelogger: I hope you have backups. | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | now must be a perfect time to abandon it and go use software that actually supports imap | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | jpds: I wouldn't be using kmail if I didn't do backups on both ends ;-) | 10:37 |
| knusperfrosch | tried to compile kdenetwork with neonmake, got a linker error: libQtGui.so.4: undefined reference to `QCoreApplicationPrivate::checkReceiverThread(QObject*) | 10:53 |
| knusperfrosch | hmm k, lookslike this was a icecc issue | 11:07 |
| knusperfrosch | wasn't a icecc issue: according to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-711151.html qt-core should have been built with debug symbols. i guess i'm missing a package? | 11:15 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I changed the path in skim.install, however I'm having problems with pbuilder. First it stopped at "rm /tmp/buildd/skim-1.4.5/debian/tmp/usr/share/autostart/skim.desktop" saying the file doesn't exists, so i commented the line. Then it failed at "dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --fail-missing". Here is the build log: http://wklej.org/id/43680/ | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: actually the build fails | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | scons: *** [utils/libscim-kdeutils.la] TypeError : cannot concatenate 'str' and 'list' objects | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | make: [install-stamp] Error 2 (ignored) | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: what arch are you on? | 11:27 |
| Quintasan | amd64 | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | maybe the cause | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | IMHO the package should just be removed from the archives anyway ;-) | 11:28 |
| knusperfrosch | which package owns /opt/project-neon/lib/libQtGui.so ? | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | dpkg -S | 11:34 |
| knusperfrosch | thx just found it. but qt seems to be built with dbg anyways | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | off topic anyway | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | !ot | 11:35 |
| ubottu | #kubuntu-devel is the development channel for Kubuntu, please use #kubuntu for support questions and #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks | 11:35 |
| knusperfrosch | apachelogger: is there a channel for neon? | 12:53 |
| jussi01 | knusperfrosch: #amarok.neon | 13:01 |
| knusperfrosch | jussi01: thx | 13:03 |
| jussi01 | :) | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | wifi is so incredibly broken it's not even funny | 13:08 |
| danimo | apachelogger: broken wifi is never fun... | 13:26 |
| danimo | apachelogger: but I guess you mean in network manager | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | danimo: mostly, then again when network manager is broken you gotta spend half an hour fixing up the wpasupplicant | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | all good now \o/ | 13:28 |
| danimo | apachelogger: I have that problem since about 3 or 4 kubuntu releases | 13:30 |
| danimo | apachelogger: is that a KDE problem? a general ubuntu problem? or NM in general? | 13:31 |
| danimo | apachelogger: all other ubuntu users seem to be perfectly happy with it | 13:31 |
| danimo | (gnome users, that is) | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | danimo: KDE mostly AFAIK | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | will all be good once the NM plasmoid is finished | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | at least I hope so | 13:31 |
| danimo | apachelogger: *sight*, can't we just use nm-applet then and integrate it withh kwallet? | 13:32 |
| danimo | apachelogger: last thing I heard it was terribly broken | 13:32 |
| danimo | -t | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | danimo: I don't think that would fit on the CD, nm-applet pulls in loads of GNOME stuff | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | if the knetworkconf thing wouldn't be so broken, I would have considered that an option ... but well... | 13:33 |
| danimo | apachelogger: well, we have to face the fact that those who work on nm use nm-applet as the frontend, which is why it effectively works best | 13:34 |
| alleeHol | danimo: sent the nm developers a fresh CD with KDE 4.2. When they try they some may help with knetworkmanager in the future :) | 13:37 |
| Sput | nm-applet didn't work for me when I tried it in KDE, this gnome keyring crap stored the WPA password as a hash, and then decided to spit it out again as a hash when asked for it | 13:38 |
| Sput | (that wasn't on *buntu though) | 13:38 |
| Sput | ah yes, and it pulled in > 50 gnome packages. | 13:38 |
| seele | including recommended packages? | 13:39 |
| Sput | seele: that was all required deps (on Gentoo though, we probably pack Gnome a bit more fine-grained than *buntu) | 13:40 |
| Sput | but it seemed a tad too much for a simple systray applet | 13:40 |
| Sput | all for figuring out that it wouldn't work, because the password hash obviously does not help with associating. | 13:41 |
| Nightrose | kubotu: ping | 13:49 |
| kubotu | pong | 13:49 |
| alleeHol | Mhm, Tonio uploaded p-nm yesterday. My tries ... | 13:50 |
| === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose | ||
| CruX| | hello all, I just updated my system to kbuntu 8.10, and i have problem with my keyboard. I set my keyboard rate with "xset r rate 200 70". All keys are working with exception of downarrow and leftarrow - wait delay is much bigger than 200 ms. What's wrong ? on kubuntu 8.04 it worked. | 15:26 |
| seele | !kubuntu-devel | 15:35 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-devel | 15:35 |
| seele | !help | 15:35 |
| ubottu | Hi! I'm #kubuntu-devel's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 15:35 |
| seele | CruX|: #kubuntu for help | 15:36 |
| seele | this is a development channel | 15:36 |
| CruX| | what are you developping scripts ? | 15:36 |
| ScottK | Kubuntu | 15:36 |
| ScottK | !support | 15:37 |
| ubottu | The official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only. | 15:37 |
| seele | packaging, software, defaults, etc. | 15:37 |
| CruX| | if yes i have another problem when my pc wakes up i must execute /etc/init.d/networking restart to bring eth0 up | 15:37 |
| CruX| | is it my problem only ? | 15:37 |
| seele | CruX|: #kubuntu for support please | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please assign bug 319245 some status and importance | 15:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 319245 in kdebase "konqueror resume dialogue unclear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319245 | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | as a matter of speaking: "the bug gets in the way of bug triage :P" | 15:48 |
| * ScottK notes plasmoid-windowslist sitting on REVU looking for a 2nd advocate. | 15:51 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: ^^ | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: can you please upload, I am not at home right now | 15:56 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ok, I'm archving | 16:01 |
| ScottK | Just test building, one more time ... | 16:02 |
| ScottK | So we've got consolekit, packagekit, xkit, etc. | 16:04 |
| ScottK | Is the meta system to manage all this kitkit? | 16:04 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: no, kit2000 | 16:05 |
| * Tm_T hides from Hasselhoff | 16:05 | |
| apachelogger | oi vei | 16:06 |
| ScottK | _neversfelde and apachelogger: Uploaded. | 16:13 |
| claydoh | is there going to be a Kubuntu 8.04.2? | 16:13 |
| ScottK | _neversfelde: Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 16:13 |
| ScottK | claydoh: Don't think so. It's not LTS. | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | oh oh | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | claydoh! | 16:14 |
| claydoh | questions are arising, especially as there was a kubuntu 8.04.1 | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | there was a kubuntu 8.04.1? Oo | 16:14 |
| claydoh | ScottK: I assumed as much there | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu could you please drop the pre-intrepid stuff to subpages? | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: the old information seems rather pointless for most users | 16:15 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: | 16:15 |
| claydoh | sure | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | k, thx :) | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | ~order cookie for claydoh | 16:15 |
| * kubotu slides one of world's finest cookies down the bar to claydoh. | 16:15 | |
| claydoh | me is working on a quassel-for-dummies as well today | 16:15 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 16:16 |
| claydoh | you don't wan't to keep some stuff for hardy there ? | 16:16 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: He has a point. | 16:17 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04.1/release/ | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | nah, all to subpages | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | with visible links to them | 16:17 |
| claydoh | kk | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | hm | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | did we do 8.04.1 DVD-only? | 16:18 |
| ScottK | No | 16:18 |
| * apachelogger only sees dvd :P | 16:18 | |
| apachelogger | anyway, why did we get 8.04.1 but not .2? | 16:19 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 16:19 |
| ScottK | Maybe no one asked. | 16:19 |
| * ScottK looks at Riddell for wisdom. | 16:19 | |
| apachelogger | we do have ask for that? Oo | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 16:19 |
| claydoh | most seem to be gnome fixes, but there are a few underlying things there as well, from looking at the changes | 16:19 |
| * claydoh prepares for the firestorms in the fora/ml's ;) | 16:21 | |
| ScottK | We've also gone to KDE 3.5.10. | 16:22 |
| ScottK | That'd be a big deal. | 16:22 |
| * claydoh forgot that | 16:22 | |
| claydoh | good point | 16:22 |
| claydoh | if you download the iso for 8.04 from kubuntu.org, you get the 8.04.1 cd image, wonder why the cdimage site only has the dvd | 16:26 |
| nixternal | good morning kubuntu! | 16:35 |
| claydoh | good morning nixternal | 16:40 |
| neversfelde | ScottK, apachelogger: thank you | 16:44 |
| Ramblurr | what's the package name for qt assistant? | 16:54 |
| Ramblurr | all i can find is libqt4-assistant | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | Ramblurr: qt4-assistant I suppose | 17:19 |
| MalikLamin | does anybody know an intersting GUI for editing linux code | 17:20 |
| Ramblurr | :No candidate version found for qt4-assistant | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | Ramblurr: qt4-dev-tools: /usr/bin/assistant-qt4 | 17:21 |
| jussi01 | !neon | 17:21 |
| ubottu | The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | MalikLamin: please define "linux code" | 17:21 |
| MalikLamin | sorry, linux kernel | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | vim ;-) | 17:22 |
| MalikLamin | vim??????? | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | !vim | 17:22 |
| ubottu | Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code | 17:22 |
| MalikLamin | are you crazy | 17:22 |
| MalikLamin | ? | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | MalikLamin: what is wrong with vim? | 17:22 |
| MalikLamin | i'd like a interactive IDE, i cant get flexibility with vim | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 17:24 |
| MalikLamin | I will try kdevelop | 17:26 |
| Ramblurr | apachelogger: thanks | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 17:29 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "live in moscow" by Faithless | 17:29 |
| nixternal | anyone else having issues with jaunty, today latest updates, with intel video? | 17:39 |
| tsdgeos | hi | 17:44 |
| tsdgeos | there are plasma dbg packages? | 17:44 |
| tsdgeos | oh yes | 17:45 |
| tsdgeos | kdelibs and kdebase -dbg | 17:45 |
| * tsdgeos goes home :D | 17:45 | |
| jpds | tsdgeos: You can install debug packages from ddebs.ubuntu.com | 17:45 |
| Riddell | kdebase-workspace-dbg or add "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com jaunty main" and install kdebase-workspace-bin-dbgsym | 17:46 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: what's the difference? | 17:46 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Any idea about 8.04.2 CD images for Kubuntu? | 17:48 |
| ghostcube | hi guys its me again | 17:54 |
| ghostcube | :D | 17:54 |
| ghostcube | i updated today from proposed and now amarok tells me an error at startup | 17:55 |
| nixternal | x-session-manager[3989]: WARNING: Detected that screensaver has left the bus | 17:55 |
| nixternal | hahahahahah, my screensaver didn't like the bus, so it left :p | 17:55 |
| ghostcube | oh it likes walking more ? | 17:55 |
| nixternal | that or it didn't pay its fare | 17:55 |
| nixternal | I guess so | 17:55 |
| ghostcube | bad | 17:56 |
| ghostcube | :D | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | tdomhan: I don't suppose there is any difference, ddebs holds a more complete set of debug packages (due to autogeneration) though ... which doesn't really matter for KDE because all our stuff got -dbg packages anyway | 18:03 |
| tsdgeos | apachelogger: ok ;-) | 18:03 |
| ghostcube | hmm forget it now i dont get the error on startup | 18:04 |
| ghostcube | oO | 18:04 |
| * ghostcube thinks kde4 is playing tricks on him | 18:05 | |
| apachelogger | rgreening, vorian: you have to be more careful with version bumps ... you made oxygen-icons-kde replace dolphin << 4.2.0 for no apparent reason while not bumping some real dependencies | 18:06 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu/Edgy | 18:08 |
| claydoh | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu/Hardy | 18:08 |
| claydoh | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu | 18:08 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: should I perhaps expand on the 'adding third party repositories' area? | 18:09 |
| ScottK | claydoh: I don't think third party stuff should be there. | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: _we_ are third party when deploying stuff via PPA | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: btw, I think feisty can be removed completely | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | if I am not mistaken feisty is out of support anyway | 18:11 |
| ScottK | It is. | 18:11 |
| claydoh | one area I often see newbie problems is incorrect urls in the repo line | 18:11 |
| ScottK | I don't think 3rd party of any kind should go there. | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: it's community docs after all | 18:12 |
| ghostcube | bug 254468 | 18:13 |
| ghostcube | damn | 18:13 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/254468/+text) | 18:13 |
| claydoh | I was just thinking of a shot of that section, more or less, and aren't the commercial repos listed there anyway? | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | stdin_: is ubottu brokenish recently? | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | stdin_: or is it launchpad? | 18:13 |
| ScottK | It's more LP is slow | 18:13 |
| Arby | apachelogger: Riddell: anyone else What else needs to be on here? | 18:14 |
| Arby | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RemoveArts | 18:14 |
| ScottK | The Edgy and before page should get called Dapper. | 18:14 |
| ghostcube | is anyone here doing backporting ? | 18:15 |
| ScottK | Of? | 18:15 |
| ghostcube | and can may tell me if this bug will pass backporting commit | 18:15 |
| ghostcube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/254468 | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | Arby: maybe a coulmn to mark if it has been fixed | 18:15 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/254468/+text) | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | Arby: or how it has been fixed | 18:15 |
| ghostcube | ubottu, youre timeout sux :P | 18:15 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 18:15 |
| ghostcube | i know | 18:16 |
| ghostcube | :D | 18:16 |
| Arby | apachelogger: yeah, fair point | 18:16 |
| tsdgeos | apachelogger: there are no digikam packages one can have installed togheter with the 4.2rc1 packages in intrepid? | 18:16 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: It's Launchpad not the bot that's the problem | 18:16 |
| ghostcube | ScottK, yeah but i can only blame the bot for now lol | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: there might be somewhere, Lure would know | 18:16 |
| tsdgeos | :-7 | 18:17 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: SRU, not backport for that. | 18:17 |
| tsdgeos | i'm already missing my old installtion :D | 18:17 |
| ghostcube | ScottK, means | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos: https://edge.launchpad.net/~digikam-experimental/+archive/ppa maybe | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | I guess we'll create a much more usable package stack in the kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa once 4.2.0 is out | 18:18 |
| tsdgeos | apachelogger: please :D | 18:19 |
| tsdgeos | let me try that though | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | :) | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: do you know where jonny is? | 18:19 |
| ScottK | He said he'd be offline all weekend | 18:19 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 18:19 |
| Arby | apachelogger: column added | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: taking a break? ;-) | 18:20 |
| ScottK | I think more like drug off by his parents somewhere. | 18:21 |
| Arby | apachelogger: are the instructions correct? | 18:21 |
| Arby | and what do we want people to do with the debdiff once they're done | 18:21 |
| ghostcube | ScottK, that would result in not fixing this bug in inteprid | 18:21 |
| Arby | we don't especially want dozens of bug reports | 18:21 |
| ghostcube | intrepid | 18:22 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: No. It means preparing a patch to go into intrepid-proposed and test it. | 18:22 |
| ghostcube | oO | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | Arby: I would go with one bug report affecting all packages | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | Arby: some packages don't exist anymore anyway | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | like libkonq4 | 18:23 |
| ghostcube | this would be the best proposed release in the last months | 18:23 |
| ghostcube | :D | 18:23 |
| Arby | ok, I haven't started checking the lists yet | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | Arby: can be done by those who are helping anyway | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | more time efficient IMHO | 18:24 |
| Arby | ok I'll create the bug then send a mail to the list | 18:24 |
| ghostcube | this bug is really annoing | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | Arby: in control there might be more to edit than just the build-dep | 18:24 |
| ScottK | I agree | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | Arby: best would be to search for arts | 18:25 |
| Arby | apachelogger: I just quoted what you said the other day :P | 18:25 |
| Arby | ok | 18:25 |
| Arby | something I'm still confused by. | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | Arby: also searching the .install files before testbuilding could help squash obvious stuff | 18:25 |
| Arby | aren't we going to break some functionality in certain apps? | 18:26 |
| ghostcube | ScottK, i know you dont support compiz but could this solve the redraw prob with the nvidia loose-binding option , if you know about this | 18:26 |
| Arby | I don't especially feel like being yelled at because we broke $app | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | Arby: that is really up to the developer who edits $app :P | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | Arby: outside of KDE land everything that depends on arts ought to be compiled without it without problem | 18:27 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: The problem happens on my Intel box too. | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | Arby: so there we would just remove unusable functionallity | 18:27 |
| Arby | I'm thinking about things like mythtv and friends | 18:27 |
| ghostcube | oh i thought only nvidia and ati related | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | Arby: and inside KDE land there might be apps that actually need arts tow rok | 18:27 |
| Xand3r | hey ho | 18:27 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: AFAIK it's everything. | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | Arby: mythtv probably just supports arts as a sound daemon | 18:27 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: what are the 4.1.4 SRU bugs doing? | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | Arby: like audacious | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: ask ScottK | 18:28 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i am afraid | 18:28 |
| Arby | apachelogger: is it worth cross posting to ubuntu-devel in case anybody has any burning objections? | 18:28 |
| ScottK | Xand3r: They are waiting for people to add comments saying how wonderful 4.1.4 is. | 18:29 |
| Arby | or is that just likely to upset people for cross posting | 18:29 |
| ScottK | Arby: ubuntu-devel is appropriate if there are non-KDE packages. | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | Arby: what ScottK said ;-) | 18:29 |
| ghostcube | hmmm so far 4.1.4 works here | 18:30 |
| ghostcube | the one bug from amarok didnt happen again | 18:30 |
| Xand3r | ScottK: is it equal from whom the comment comes? | 18:30 |
| Arby | well as I said, things like mplayer and mythtv are non-KDE so I guess I cross post | 18:31 |
| ghostcube | i never get mythtv to work :D | 18:31 |
| ghostcube | good luck | 18:31 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: Please say so in the relevant bugs: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&fi | 18:32 |
| ScottK | .used=&field.tag=kde4.1.4&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search | 18:32 |
| ScottK | Xand3r: Yes. | 18:32 |
| ScottK | Pretty much anyway. | 18:33 |
| Xand3r | kk i will ask some from the germanspeaking community | 18:33 |
| Xand3r | ScottK: ^ | 18:33 |
| ScottK | Actually verification reports from people not invlolved in the packaging are better. | 18:33 |
| Xand3r | perfekt | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: perfect ... or ... perfeKt :P | 18:34 |
| * apachelogger compiles 3 packages at the same time | 18:34 | |
| ghostcube | ScottK, so i need to comment all packages :) | 18:35 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: you know the k is magic | 18:35 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: Yes. | 18:35 |
| ghostcube | ui | 18:36 |
| ghostcube | :D long run | 18:36 |
| ScottK | Except the bluetooth one. We got plenty on that one already | 18:36 |
| * ScottK wishes for a script to "Open all the bugs on listed on this page in new tabs". | 18:37 | |
| ghostcube | but one thing is still a prob should be mentioned somehow that starting this damn teacooker applet will stop jackd from loading heh cause plasma grabs hw:0 | 18:38 |
| ghostcube | lol | 18:38 |
| ScottK | ghostcube: So far no one else can reproduce that problem. | 18:39 |
| ScottK | I think you should mention it though. | 18:39 |
| ghostcube | ScottK, hmm nah a|wen had it too yesterday | 18:39 |
| ScottK | Ah. OK. | 18:39 |
| ScottK | Missed that. | 18:39 |
| ScottK | Need to look into it. He's a good person to do it. | 18:40 |
| ghostcube | <a|wen-> dtchen: it didn't grab raw here the first time ... but now i can't get it to stop grabbing raw :) | 18:40 |
| ghostcube | it highjacks the hw:0 rofl | 18:41 |
| ScottK | If we could get you and dtchen together to investigate it, that'd be great as he understands the sound stuff better than anyone I know. | 18:41 |
| ScottK | He's not around a lot though... | 18:42 |
| ScottK | Very busy | 18:42 |
| ghostcube | :) | 18:42 |
| ghostcube | no prob but maybe this would explain some question in the forums i found abput why jackd not starting | 18:42 |
| ghostcube | and no one had opened anything | 18:42 |
| Arby | apachelogger: how do we want this arts thing to work for people who already have upload privileges? | 18:45 |
| Arby | i.e. do we still want a debdiff to review for QA | 18:45 |
| Arby | or can people upload their own work | 18:45 |
| apachelogger | Arby: what else would we want? | 18:45 |
| Arby | people who can upload do, people who can't attach a debdiff | 18:46 |
| Arby | or everyone attaches a debdiff so that it can be reviewed | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | aye | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | Arby: former | 18:47 |
| Arby | thanks | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | there is no point in having developers attach a debdiff ;-) | 18:47 |
| Arby | we still have reviews for ninja packaging | 18:49 |
| Arby | even for developers :) | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | nope | 18:50 |
| Arby | anyway bug 320915 | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | we have reviews for those who don't usually have upload rights | 18:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 320915 in arts "Remove aRts from the archive - rebuild all dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320915 | 18:50 |
| Arby | e-mail to follow later | 18:51 |
| apachelogger | Arby: maybe also mention ... if the package _can_ be fixed to not depend on arts, it should be marked as affected and closed in the changelog entry | 18:55 |
| Arby | apachelogger: do you mean put LP#: 320915 (or whatever it is) in the changelog entry? | 18:56 |
| Arby | btw, what do we do if a package can't be fixed to not depend on arts? keep arts? | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | Arby: 1) yes 2) either that or we remove the package ... depends on the package really :) | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | or push upstream to change $apps behaviour so we can drop arts | 18:58 |
| Arby | ok, got to go for now, biab | 18:59 |
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| blizzz | won't there be the 8.04.2 release for kubuntu? | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | we don't know | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | doesn't seem so though | 19:18 |
| blizzz | what does it depends on? | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | blizzz: if release team is actually in mood to get us one | 19:22 |
| blizzz | ok. ty apachelogger | 19:23 |
| Arby | apachelogger: anything I need to add to this before I send it. | 20:07 |
| Arby | http://paste.ubuntu.com/109092/ | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | Arby: is the bug mentioned on the wiki page? | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | if not, you should add it ... mail is good | 20:15 |
| Arby | by number yes, I'll add a link in a sec | 20:15 |
| Arby | mail sent | 20:17 |
| ghostcube | who is making the kde classic menu applet :) | 20:47 |
| ghostcube | i have a feature request if its not already done | 20:49 |
| Arby | ghostcube: we don't really do feature addition, that happens upstream in KDE | 20:50 |
| Arby | if it's a plasma applet then someone in #plasma will likely know | 20:51 |
| ghostcube | Arby, hmm ok | 20:59 |
| Arby | apachelogger: ping? | 21:51 |
| Arby | looking at arts stuff libsdl1.2debian-arts looks pretty useless without arts | 21:51 |
| Arby | should it be marked for removal from the archive? | 21:51 |
| Arby | likewise liballegro4.2-plugin-arts | 21:52 |
| claydoh | well I have not fin ished the quassel how-to completely :( | 22:32 |
| claydoh | I eas sidetracked by an online shopping session | 22:33 |
| * claydoh loves getting a bonus check by surprisse | 22:33 | |
| * claydoh gets to have a running desktop soon w00t! | 22:35 | |
| ScottK-palm | How goes it? | 22:38 |
| jussi01 | heya ScottK-palm :) it goes ok :) | 22:42 |
| * Sput just came back from a really nice evening with markey, Mamarok, Claudia Rauch et. al. | 23:53 | |
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