=== fabricio is now known as PYLL === jesus_ is now known as jebus_ === dark_ is now known as Ds4f [00:12] I have a bit of question about theory. Why is OpenOffice hard to install? [00:13] i've never had a problem with it [00:14] sudo apt-get install openoffice if i'm not mistaken [00:14] Well, it uses tar.gz, which is not point and click, so it's not quite the MS-Office replacement. [00:14] Adept keeps giving me the 2.4 version [00:15] So did Package Manager. [00:17] sudo apt-get install openoffice doesn't work. Gives me "Couldn't find package openoffice" [00:19] Sophty: use the package openoffice.org [00:19] ie: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org [00:20] but it should be installed by default in K/Ubuntu [00:20] 2.4 is installed. [00:20] I want 3, which I downloaded it, but it came as a tar.gz. Hence my original question. [00:20] then you'll have to compile it [00:21] :( That seems quite un-noob friendly. [00:23] Sophty: i suggest to wait until oo 3 gets into the official repos then [00:23] Sophty: you can try the .deb on http://download.openoffice.org/other.html [00:24] I clicked that and the download link is a tar.gz. [00:24] ok, i have a problem. I switched my laptop to run dual screens, now i'm stuck with 640x480 res and can't get it fixed [00:24] no, look at the page [00:26] Yea, match up Linux DEB and English. It gives me a file that ends in deb.tar.gz [00:26] Or will I have just the deb file after I extract it, without having the compile anything? [00:28] extract it and you'll find some .deb files in there [00:29] Yea, I see them. There is a metric feces ton in there. Is there one that installs the entire suite? [00:30] no, you'll have to install them manually [00:30] look at the packges you already have installed for openoffice and install the similar .debs [00:32] I uninstalled 2.4 so as to avoid conflict. === gnuton is now known as Gnut[OFF] [00:35] Sophty: http://pastebin.com/f774e6b31 is what I have installed, but the packages will be named differently [00:39] Hopefully one last question. Is it an upgrade or a new install? Should I have 2.4 installed before I start opening the DEBs [00:56] anyone know how to fix resolution problem with an ATI Radeon 200m? [00:58] Hey, all files and directories in my home dir are owned by a strange user (500). What does this mean? I can't even load X [01:05] Sophty: with .debs it doesn't matter [01:06] Schuenemann: this command should fix it: sudo chown -R $(whowmi):$(whoami) $HOME [01:07] stdin, I was told to change uid in /etc/passwd and /etc/groups [01:07] what do you think? [01:07] anyone using bespin ? if so , where to get the last version? [01:07] don't [01:08] stdin: did you write the stdin plasmoid? [01:08] but I already did in /etc/passwd... [01:08] Schuenemann: just change the owner back to you, messing with /etc/passwd and /etc/group can stop you from being able to login [01:08] jammen33: no [01:08] kk [01:08] stdin, I have other distros sharing this home dir. Will that mess with them? [01:09] actually I mean what should I do considering that too [01:09] Schuenemann: if you have other distros, then you will need to make sure all the UIDs and GIDs are the same across all. in that case, you have to edit the files. but be careful === abel is now known as abel_ === abel_ is now known as abel__ [01:10] stdin, yeah, I wasn't careful enough. I can't edit the groups file because there is uid 1000 in /etc/passwd anymore [01:10] it's generally a bad idea to have multiple distros sharing one $HOME though [01:10] really? That was an advice when I installed slackware IIRC [01:11] different distros can have different versions of software, and those can have incompatible config files in $HOME [01:11] hmm [01:11] Schuenemann: you'll have to login to recovery mode, that'll give you a root shell [01:11] I already am [01:11] I used nano to change the file [01:12] How can I find out which version of Kubuntu I have? I think it's either 8.9 or 8.10. I have KDE4.1. [01:12] !version [01:12] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [01:12] btw, there is no version 8.9 [01:13] Ibex? [01:13] stdin, what should I do now? I can't edit /etc/groups because my UID doesn't exist in /etc/passwd [01:14] BentFrank: 8.10 Intrepid Ibex, 8.04 Hardy Heron [01:14] Schuenemann: if you're root, then you are UID 0 [01:14] BentFrank: it's . [01:14] sudo: uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file! [01:14] that is the message [01:15] Schuenemann: you don't need sudo if you're root [01:15] you login to recovery mode and you are root [01:15] oh! one my first system, I started with 8.04 andupgraded to 8.10 and it has KDE4.1. Now I'm trying a new install froman 8.10 CD and it gives me KDE4.2, which I don't want right now. Did that come in the CD or from the first upgrade after installing? [01:16] stdin, so I end this session and leave the passwd file as it is? [01:17] Schuenemann: as long as root is in the passwd file, you should be able to fix it from a recovery session [01:18] ok, let me try [01:19] Here's my real problem... On the new system I did System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> Enable Desktop Effects. That hosed my display and I can't revert because I can't see anything. I can boot to root prompt and run text-based emacs (nostalgia++). How can I fix KDE from the command line? [01:19] BentFrank: 4.2 is not released yet, it won't be on the 8.10 CD [01:20] edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc, find the [Compositing] section and set "Enabled=true" to "Enabled=false" [01:20] stdin = best IRC helper I ever met [01:21] nah, I just have a habit of breaking things so have to figure out how to fix them again ;) [01:22] i like to do that too [01:22] so much fun [01:22] ok, rebooting... === Zagaroth is now known as Borg^Zap [01:25] stdin, it was fixed, thanks [01:25] :) [01:25] now I just get a message saying en_US isn't available [01:25] the language [01:26] try installing language-pack-en or language-pack-en-base [01:26] that will be a problem... I don't have internet yet [01:27] it should be on the CD [01:28] if it's a single .deb, I could download from this box [01:28] ugh, it's a metapackage [01:29] I'll leave this for now, it's just a message. I'll probably have network access soon [01:29] stdin, will I have to do this again for the other distros? [01:30] no, it'll only install to kubuntu [01:31] sorry, I was talking about editing those files under /etc [01:38] ok, evening all ...running quassel on windows 7..strange app to setup ,just as clunky as it is on kubuntu :) [01:40] ooo windows 7 [01:40] bbiab , gotta do a atm run...need some cash for tomorrow [01:40] that's the beauty of Qt4, if you write a clunky app for linux, it's clunky on win and OSX too :) [01:40] yup, stdin /..clunky IMO anyway ...maybe you wizards won't think so :) [01:41] nope, it's clunky [01:41] so any one want to buy me some ram? [01:41] bbl [01:41] !quassel [01:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about quassel [01:44] one happy camper here, thanks again stdin [01:47] qtparter needs a better icon === ubuntu is now known as aqqa [01:52] !de [01:52] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [01:52] !en [01:52] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [01:52] !swap [01:52] swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info [01:53] !kubuntu [01:53] Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE [01:54] Hrm. So there's no advantage to wiping my 8.10 ubuntu system and replacing it with Kubuntu [01:54] I already have KDE up and running :P [01:55] will ubuntu use multiple swap drives? [02:01] j #kubuntu-es [02:01] ups === snake is now known as albuntu [02:11] hay all, have a slight problem. Everytime i try to log into KDM i get an xterm failsafe seassion, anyone ahve any ideas on how to fix this? [02:13] Does anyone know if they had considered to use SMPlayer as default media player for Kubuntu 9.04? It is better than Dragon Player, and Kaffeine isn't yet ported to KDE4. [02:14] does any1 know how to instal pixelview tv tuner driver? [02:16] I have an ATI 3450 and I seem to have a problem with the aticonfig program. Everytime my puter starts up it is based on 1900x1080 but I set it to 1280x720 and the resolution is not saved. The driver works fine, I can confirm it with glxgears and other utilties, hasy anyone else come across this? === killab is now known as KillaB === KillaB is now known as ZigCat [02:17] hi there [02:18] shadowwhywind: on your login screen there's a dialog for Auto/KDE/failsafe [02:19] Hello. [02:19] i have a tiny lil problem with my refreshrate on a freshly installed ubutu and my geforce 6800 [02:20] alguém q tc? [02:20] and i have absolutely no expirience with linux systems ~=) === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [02:23] how do i get my first monitor (a CRT) to use 85hz instead if 60hz? [02:23] in addition to that i'd like both screens to run at 1280x1024 instead of 2 different resolutions [02:24] are you using the nvidia settings manager? [02:24] zigcat install the nvidia drivers and try the nvidia configuration utility [02:25] aka nvidia-settings [02:25] i tried [02:25] i got both screens to work [02:25] the TFT uses the 1280x1024 [02:26] but the CRT has only 1152x864 or 1360x768 to chose from [02:27] and i havn't found any way to change the refreshrate of the first screen [02:27] zigcat I hope not but you may end up having to go into the xorg.conf and setting up metamodes manually [02:28] wheeeeeeeeeee [02:28] =) [02:28] so, where do i find those? [02:28] and how can i make sure i dont fcuk up my system? =) [02:28] zigcat you won't find them pre-built most likely, you'll have to make them :| [02:28] okay [02:28] you don't.. if it does mess up, you revert the config file through a vtty [02:28] i recall a x modeline generatoer web site.. from ages ago.. [02:28] i googled allready, and read something about horizontal and vertical tracing and stuff [02:29] not had to use it since ive gone all lcd. [02:29] i had to use the modeline generator once with my lcd to get 800x600 to have the proper refresh rate (it see's two, picks the wrong one" [02:29] ) [02:29] LCDs and TFTs arn't flexible enough for my taste. u have to use the home-resolution oder a fraction of it, or it starts looking ugly [02:30] and the problem with that is? [02:30] i play games and i dont have a rig to play all games at desktopresolution [02:30] i imagine in a few more years.. it will be very hard to even find CRT's any more [02:31] so i have to reduce the resolution to something that makes the game work smooth-ish [02:31] who cares with OLED? :P [02:31] ESP-LED - light right into your brains [02:31] lol [02:31] and what about aliasing? =) [02:32] lol [02:32] You dont really Hear much about those video 'big deals' that were commomly argued just a year or 2 ago.. [02:32] think about all those stairs DIRECTLY on you retina! =) [02:32] esp-led [02:33] Ive not kept up with video card stuff in ages... getting where the new ones got so much power it scary.. then the games just add more leafs/shadows/stuff flittering about.. to suck up all tha tpower [02:33] makes me wonder what the range is on esp-led [02:33] apt-get install kesp-frontend === John is now known as Guest99584 [02:33] anyhow [02:33] how do i get my screens up and running? [02:34] that would be nice [02:34] because another thing that i dont like is, that the desktop on my main-screen is larger than i can see [02:34] list [02:34] nick [02:34] help [02:34] HELP [02:35] login [02:35] Error: You are not identified [02:35] login [02:35] Error: You are not identified [02:35] erm [02:35] that was quick [02:35] and there we go again [02:35] help [02:35] .h [02:36] i installed the user agent switcher but there is no test button so how will i know if it works? [02:38] am i allowed to post weblinks in here? [02:39] looking for help and assistance in setting multi display using nvidia xserver [02:39] i installed the user agent switcher but there is no test button so how will i know if it works? [02:39] Test button? [02:40] As soon as you selected the user agent, your browser will use that [02:40] khalidmian: welcome to the club! =) [02:40] ZigCat: ty [02:40] ah, you mean like to prove it's using the user agent? [02:40] well the uas site there is test button installed with the uas in the tools menu under user agent switcher [02:41] ZigCat: any suggestions help on my topic? [02:41] the browser will use it automatically so no reason for testing? [02:42] not really [02:42] i have some similar problems =) [02:43] ncfi1013: hmm, the page gives a link to http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html [02:43] ah lol i seem to enable my tv and it works but i lose setting on reboot [02:43] ncfi1013: I don't see any mention of test button === John is now known as Guest37670 [02:45] when i as to save settings to X config file it says: Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'. [02:45] ok look at this syockit: http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/help/ [02:45] maybe there allready is one file with that name [02:46] tried "xorg.conf.backup2" some something in that line of thought? [02:46] i doubt i just installed it === carlos is now known as Guest66087 [02:46] kalenedrael, you are runnng whatever x config tool.. as the root user? [02:46] ncfi1013: Like I said, there's only a link for the test. It says to select first the UA from the uas menu. Then go to the test site if you want === John is now known as Guest25170 === Guest66087 is now known as carlos_ [02:48] i just tried it [02:48] looking for help and assistance in setting multi display using nvidia xserver anybody? [02:48] i get the same message [02:48] gah, I'm going to revert to Konversation. Quassel's too weird [02:48] and there is no file with that name [02:49] yes no file by that name [02:50] hm [02:50] im not able to create any files manually in that folder [02:50] maybe there just a problem with the rights in there [02:50] its under root [02:51] i have no idea [02:51] sudo gedit etc/x11/xorg.conf [02:51] im new to this, too ~=) [02:51] im just trying educated guesses here =) [02:57] i found a website/blog about the "gtf"-command [03:16] there somehow is a Universal Accessibility tray icon [03:16] and it doesn't disappear after a reboot [03:16] how do i remove it? [03:26] Can I tell apt to only ignore current upgrade? In other words, hold current upgrade until a newer upgrade comes === raphael_ is now known as ZIzek [03:33] Installing NX on Kubuntu 8.10. It wants to know if I have one of (redhat, suse, mandrake, debian, solaris, fedora). I think debian - is that right? [03:33] sorry i didn't receive any possible replies [03:35] how do i remove the Universal Accessibility tray icon? === chelsea is now known as [phoenix] === [phoenix] is now known as d4rkf3n1x === kris is now known as mommas_boy === MissySplendour is now known as LittleMissy [04:25] anybody who speaks spanish here? [04:25] No Hoblo [04:25] !es [04:25] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [04:25] i don't want spanish help [04:25] i just want to chat with some spanish speaking person [04:25] :( [04:26] nobody? [04:26] So try those 2 channels then? :) [04:26] hmm, then I should go to #ubuntu-ja ... [04:26] well, finally the language doesn't matter at all... [04:26] ...but no one's there! [04:26] * Dr_willis goes to #ubuntu-HotBabes [04:27] oh, it was ubuntu-jp [04:28] ok.. bye then... === fidji_ is now known as fidji [04:35] no ones on HotBabes... [04:35] even if there are, they would be text-only [04:41] They all ran away when You joined. :) [04:43] #ubuntu's having massive flood [04:43] It is? i dident see it === integer is now known as Shital [04:47] your monitor's too big [04:48] Mine is 7.8" [04:55] dtchen: About phonon and pa: did that mean you just set it to prefer pulseaudio over alsa? [04:55] syockit: i didn't set anything in jaunty [04:55] i just installed kubuntu-desktop, and it worked [04:56] dtchen: you mean, you installed from scratch? you didn't have kubuntu intrepid before? [04:56] syockit: i did not, no [04:56] i had ubuntu feisty -> gutsy -> hardy -> intrepid -> jaunty [04:56] in jaunty, i installed kubuntu-desktop [04:57] (it's intentional; i'm debugging a pulseaudio interaction issue) [04:57] oh. Maybe it had a conf script in that package. I ought to try it one day... === arief is now known as arief001 === arief001 is now known as Drake001 === Drake001 is now known as Drake005 === Drake005 is now known as DedeQ [05:10] <\kira> I get a error while installing that it cant mount the things it just formatted, any ideas? [05:12] kwsk [05:12] <\kira> kwsk? [05:13] <\kira> ''adsf [05:13] <\kira> opps [05:13] <\kira> nevermind that last line [05:14] sorry, used wrong abbr at wrong place [05:14] I mean, details plz? [05:15] <\kira> well. I manually partitioned my drives, and when it goes about formatting them, after it returns that it cant mount them. Is this a usual thing? [05:16] <\kira> I have the options to go back or continue [05:16] hello, I've been over to #apache and #python with this question but it may be appropriate here as ubuntu apache configuration files seem to be set up in a unique way. I need to change the cgi directive to enable apache to read python scripts. The directive I changed resides in /etc/apache2/sites-available. Is this correct? === rob is now known as Guest43893 [05:18] \kira, ive see it befor where after partioning a disk. the system has to reboot to see the changes. [05:18] pulaski: all you need to do is add ExecCGI to the Directory directive and add something like "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" [05:18] <\kira> Okay, ill try just ignoring it after I finish checking the disk for defects [05:19] I normally leave a part of the hd unpartitoned/unallocated and let the installer auto-allocate that space.. or let it use the whole drive. :) [05:20] or i make my own layout by hand befor i start the installer [05:20] stdin: Thanks for responding. I've done that. You can take a look at the directive here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/101094/ [05:21] <\kira> well, my last installation was working, but it froze half way through loading, then after a hard reset, I got a grub 18 error. My home partition is still intact, so I wanted to use it as my home directory for my new installation [05:21] You can always just mount /home to its proper place after installing. [05:21] <\kira> Get home on friday, cant wait to play wow, turn on computer to see a grub error :( My day has sucked so far [05:21] sad [05:21] <\kira> lol [05:21] No idea what grub 18 is. - i dont recall that one :) [05:22] i think it means it cant find the menu.list [05:22] or something like that [05:22] pulaski: you don't nees a ScriptAlias if your document root is /home/mike/public_html, and I think you need to move AddHandler out of the Directory directive, I have mine in the bottom of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf [05:22] <\kira> basically, yea. The actual error was more complicated to understand [05:23] thats possible if the drives have some how moved I guess. [05:23] <\kira> the person who was using the system at the time said it just crashed while booting [05:23] <\kira> then started giving the grub error [05:23] <\kira> I tried to mount my / partition from a live cd, and it was corrutp [05:23] <\kira> *corrput [05:24] <\kira> so im guessing thats why it couldnt find the boot files in the first 8 gigs [05:24] \kira: Ok thanks for taking a look. I won't take anymore of your time. I have a couple other ideas to try. [05:24] taht could be the problem [05:24] <\kira> pulaski: wrong person [05:24] !kdenlive [05:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about kdenlive [05:24] !info kdenlive [05:24] kdenlive (source: kdenlive): A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.svn20071228-0.0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 871 kB, installed size 2624 kB [05:25] <\kira> um... after checking the disk, the machine didnt even give any output, it just restarted [05:25] <\kira> is that okay? [05:25] canal español? [05:26] !kubuntu-es [05:26] Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es [05:26] cheh [05:26] ok [05:26] !es [05:26] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [05:26] I see [05:26] stdin: thanks. that's someting else I can try. [05:26] ok [05:26] Now learnt a new thing [05:26] but maybe regular users like me shouldn't abuse the bot [05:33] Anyone having kmail crashes ? [05:34] hola angel [05:36] DaSkreech: I have it not crashing, does that help? (; [05:40] Tm_T: If you can remember the last time you updated then yes [05:41] DaSkreech: compiled yesterday (;) [05:42] Blast [05:46] dtchen: Output of your said command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108870/ [05:53] dtchen: Redone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/108871/ [05:54] syockit: are you using `pulseaudio -D -vv'? a *lot* of verboseness is missing... [05:56] yup [05:57] dtchen: should I install pulseaudio-dbg? [05:57] Stop krashing Kmail!!! [05:59] syockit: you'll probably need more than that. Are all the necessary dependencies installed? [06:01] hi qcjn [06:01] dtchen: probably not. I need to go through my pulseaudio installs again [06:02] hi DaS [06:02] i'm messing around with xcfe and compiz [06:03] Cool [06:04] i wanted to try xcfe, but i've installed compiz icon, and i think this starts compix automatically, and i,d like to close it. Cause it makes my computer a bit slower ? [06:04] metacity --replace [06:05] thats it ? "in the terminal" ? [06:05] Yes [06:05] ok [06:05] dtchen: still the same after installing pulseaudio-*. Gonna restart. brb [06:06] yes sir...thanks [06:06] and if i'd like it back..same thing or what [06:06] I always use the 'fusion-icon' tool to enable/disable compiz [06:07] Dr_willis: i don't see where in the fusion icon [06:07] * Tm_T just uses Kwin <3 [06:07] !info fusion-icon [06:07] fusion-icon (source: fusion-icon): tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.0-1 (intrepid), package size 29 kB, installed size 264 kB [06:07] install it. and run it with 'fusion-icon' [06:10] nop, metacity --replace didn't worked [06:11] it froze ! had to restart xwindow [06:12] so Dr_willis how to stop with the icon..i have it ..rightclick/quit ? [06:12] what froze? [06:13] i normally run fusion-icon from a terminal with 'fusion-icon &' if i recall... it has right click menus to set things [06:13] wow got 4.2 desktop sweet [06:13] but why is my panel bar two inches to short on right side? [06:13] seems to be xwindow..couldn't do anything [06:20] does tab completion not work in konsole or something? because it will only list stuff in the current directory. I can't use it for aptitude to list stuff in the repositories [06:21] I think more advnaced tab completion features need to be enabled in the .bashrc or .bash_profile [06:22] is this something new because it never use to be like that, Its still the same way in gnome anyhow [06:22] try from a shell ' . /etc/bash_completion ' [06:22] see if it works after that. [06:22] could be the Konsole is running .bashrc instead of .bash_profile or somthing like that [06:24] thanks guys, i've just took off the burning window, and it's fast enough, so it's ok [06:24] but now i'm going to sleep [06:24] so good night all [06:29] hi [06:29] as these [06:36] Dr_willis weird, not sure why it wasn't enabled [06:37] but i noticed not working after upgrading kdebindings [06:40] TraceRoute: try doing "source /etc/bash_completion" [06:41] cjae: Just lengthen it [06:41] TraceRoute: if it works after that check your ~/.bashrc, it should have something like "if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then . /etc/bash_completion; fi" [06:41] ' . /etc/bash_completion ' [06:41] is same as source :) the . is a shortcut for 'source' [06:42] Dr_willis: if it has a space after it [06:42] and it does. :) [06:42] actually i cut/pasted that from the .bashrc [06:42] use of the source command would be more clear i agree [06:42] but its good to rember the 'trick' since i seeit a lot in othe rshell scripts as we [06:43] well it works now [06:43] just odd to me why it stopped [06:44] I think it was enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc some time, but that changed a couple releases ago [06:44] ah ok [06:46] but it still works fine on my gnome box and i never had to do anything, it is just something to do with konsole? [06:46] no, it's bash. nothing to do with konsole [06:46] Its possible its a 'Konsile isrunning a shell, vs a LOGIN shell' type issue also. [06:47] try it in xterm, see if it works. try it in 'xterm -ls' see if it works [06:49] yeah works fine in xterm [06:50] does it work in xterm -ls ? [06:50] yes [06:51] starting xterm after sourcing /etc/bash_completion would work, as the environment should be preserved [06:52] Its working in here under xterm, and konsole. [06:58] ew does ur alls logout logo look like this? http://www.mypicx.com/01242009/logout_logo/ [06:59] I'm using kde4.2 I guess it changed with i updated [06:59] when* [07:28] i dont even use kde 4.2 :) [07:29] Boooo [07:29] * jammen33 screams [07:30] * Dr_willis giggles like a schoolgirl === mj is now known as Guest47015 [07:33] i wonder when the alphas fro kde 5.0 will come out? === Gnut[OFF] is now known as gnuton [07:35] * Dr_willis waits for Service pack 1 [07:35] what masochist would try kde 5.0 alphas [07:35] how much ram will it need? [07:36] kde 4 double [07:36] will 5 doulbe that? [07:36] exponetial [07:36] :) [07:36] ic [07:36] 2, 4, 8 16 32, 64, [07:36] 128. 256 [07:37] so about 2TB? [07:37] :) [07:37] for the icon cache.. yea 2tb :) [07:38] must me some icons [07:38] be* === rob is now known as Guest11665 [07:47] dtchen: you still here? I think my pulseaudio is still not working [07:48] dtchen: probably policykit packages missing === geek is now known as faileas [07:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/265010 says it's user error, but how come? [07:58] !enligthenment [07:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about enligthenment [07:58] !enlightenment [07:58] Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version. [07:59] !E [07:59] well it said or "E" [07:59] Its also known simply as 'E' or "E17" [07:59] i kno [07:59]