[00:43] Hi there people [00:43] I have my gpg-key now an will try to sign the code of conduct [00:44] First things first [00:44] I have a hughe gdm bug [00:44] it has tons of symptoms [00:44] I don't know which ones are important [00:45] some help would be appreciated [00:45] Most typical = thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ pidof gdm [00:45] 5406 5403 [00:45] thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ [00:45] thomasdelbeke: what are some of the symptoms? [00:46] pidof gdm gives two entries [00:46] I noticed the problem on two different machines [00:46] and how is that a problem? [00:46] both Acer Aspire [00:46] do a 'ps -ef | grep gdm' [00:47] the and mine, which is: [00:47] you will find two, one owned by init [00:47] the other a child of the first [00:47] 9410-4933 [00:48] thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ ps -ef | grep gdm [00:48] root 5403 1 0 00:29 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm [00:48] root 5406 5403 0 00:29 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm [00:48] root 5411 5406 5 00:29 tty7 00:00:57 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 [00:48] thomas 7164 7012 0 00:47 pts/0 00:00:00 grep gdm [00:48] thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ [00:48] yes [00:48] this is not a problem [00:48] OK [00:48] but I have malignant symptoms too [00:48] They are: [00:50] root@thomas-laptop:/home/thomas# hurestore --usage [00:50] Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:72: GtkWarning: could not open display [00:50] warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning) [00:50] Usage: hurestore [-?] [-?|--help] [--usage] [--oaf-ior-fd=FD] [00:50] [--oaf-activate-iid=IID] [--oaf-private] [--disable-sound] [00:50] [--enable-sound] [--espeaker=HOSTNAME:PORT] [--version] [00:50] [--load-modules=MODULE1,MODULE2,...] [00:50] This is the error message I got on my current outstanding gedit bug [00:51] I opened it as gedit ... [00:51] and this happens when you run the command under a terminal in your logged in Gnome session, right? [00:51] but it just means I cannot open anything else either [00:51] thomasdelbeke, what is the bug #? [00:51] yes, from terminal, as root or as 1000 [00:52] but also from icons on panel [00:52] I will look it up in firefox [00:52] please be patient, [00:52] firefox does not work correctly [00:52] neither does right keypad [00:52] we are patient. We are also confused right now. [00:53] these are two of the other symptoms [00:53] one (keypad) filed as a bug already [00:53] I go look now [00:54] OK, this is one: 318276 [00:54] bug 218276 [00:54] Launchpad bug 218276 in doit "DoIt on Windows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218276 [00:54] now looking for the rest [00:54] bug 318276 [00:54] Launchpad bug 318276 in xorg "serious xserver-xorg problem in 8.10" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318276 [00:55] yes [00:55] thomasdelbeke, I am sorry, but I cannot understand what is the problem on the bug [00:56] hey [00:56] this is not an Ubuntu bug [00:56] thomasdelbeke: it is very important to treat each bug separately [00:56] this one is not mine: 218276 [00:56] there are a lot of confusing and inter mixed issues going on in this bug report [00:57] I do not use thunderbird [00:57] I know [00:57] The problem is that I do not know which package, but I presume all of these are gdm, as display cannot be accessed [00:58] you think not??? [01:01] heh. gone [01:02] I am *very* confused by this bug report [01:02] he has some very confusing issues going on [01:04] the "I voted Adolf" comment in the bug got my attention. And I did not like it [01:07] I don't understand what he is trying to accomplish or wants [01:08] isn't he a launchpad spammer? [01:08] i've seen some " strange " reports from him before... [01:08] he isn't sticking viagara adds in there [01:08] which is good. I guess [01:09] but he does have some very confusing problems [01:10] Hi [01:10] Are you guys still ther [01:10] ??? [01:10] I had to reboot [01:10] Because the task bar of firefox disappeared [01:11] I could no longer mininmize and only open firfox in full screen mode [01:11] thomasdelbeke: yes, you seem to have reported quite a few bugs. Is this all on the same hardware? [01:12] yes, but I was able to verify this on a different acer machine as well [01:12] the 5050 [01:12] but only some of these, as I do not own that machine [01:13] thomasdelbeke, please stick to ONE issue at a time [01:13] OK [01:13] but the thing is [01:13] I am not a programmer [01:14] and I do not know the cause of these display problems [01:14] thomasdelbeke, please start by stating what is the issue [01:14] so I do not know if it is one bug [01:14] ok [01:14] list of symptoms: [01:14] thomasdelbeke: are your last comments on that bug pretty much your summary of the issue? [01:14] which one bug? [01:15] gedit or xserver-xorg (keypad)??? [01:15] bug 318276 [01:15] Launchpad bug 318276 in xorg "serious xserver-xorg problem in 8.10" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318276 [01:15] you said that's solved now [01:16] no [01:16] yes, sorry, I was looking at the xorg bug. I came in during the middle of this discussion. My appologies. [01:16] with VGA driver thing? [01:16] that is not my bug [01:16] the names match [01:17] OK. Please give us the bug # we will be talking about now [01:17] but i do indeed have a VGA issue [01:17] ok [01:17] this is the gedit one: 311237 [01:17] I posted it as gedit [01:18] bug 311237 [01:18] Launchpad bug 311237 in gedit "gedit fails to run as root in jaunty" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311237 [01:18] but it is about the magic cookie [01:18] ye indeed [01:18] that bug [01:18] magic cookie "cannot ad display" [01:18] correctly displayed. You had su - to root [01:19] under your X session [01:19] what do you mean? [01:19] root@thomas-laptop:/home/thomas# gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [01:20] I think that something in ubuntu changes something in my BIOS [01:20] is this still the problem with gedit? [01:20] yes [01:20] thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ sudo su [01:20] [sudo] password for thomas: [01:20] root@thomas-laptop:/home/thomas# pidof gdm [01:20] 5144 5141 [01:20] root@thomas-laptop:/home/thomas# cat /etc/apt/sources.list [01:21] # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)]/ intrepid main restricted [01:21] # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to [01:21] # newer versions of the distribution. [01:21] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted [01:21] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties [01:21] ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the [01:21] ## distribution. [01:21] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted [01:21] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties [01:21] ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu [01:21] damn [01:21] ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any [01:21] ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team. [01:21] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe [01:21] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates universe [01:21] ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu [01:21] ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to [01:21] ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in [01:21] ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu [01:21] ## security team. [01:21] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse [01:21] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates multiverse [01:21] ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' [01:21] ## repository. [01:21] ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as [01:21] ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes [01:21] ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. [01:21] ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review [01:21] ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. [01:21] # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse [01:21] # deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse [01:21] ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's [01:21] ## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is [01:22] ## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu [01:22] ## users. [01:22] deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner [01:22] deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner [01:22] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted [01:22] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties [01:22] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security universe [01:22] thomasdelbeke: Please WAIT.... use pastebin [01:22] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed restricted main multiverse universe [01:22] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed restricted main multiverse universe [01:22] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports restricted main multiverse universe [01:22] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports restricted main multiverse universe [01:22] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security multiverse [01:22] root@thomas-laptop:/home/thomas# [01:22] but not just gedit [01:22] thomasdelbeke, do *NOT* paste this again!! [01:22] that was what I said [01:22] what damn? [01:22] You wanted /etc/apt/sources.list? [01:22] I misunderstood? [01:22] thomasdelbeke, instead, use pastenbin [01:22] pls use pastebin for that kind of things.. [01:22] !pastebin [01:22] ok [01:22] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [01:23] also. it seems that you're giving a lot of info, [01:23] what i've got so far [01:23] and, anyways, I have *NO* idea of what the sources.list has to do with gedit [01:23] ok [01:23] sorry about that [01:23] no [01:24] is that you believe that Ubuntu modified your BIOS and it's causing issues with intel driver and Xorg not executing gui apps... ??? [01:24] somebody said gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [01:24] so I presumed you wanted to see my repos [01:24] sorry [01:24] thomasdelbeke, I was showing you your own text in the gedit bug [01:24] andresmujica: different bug, actually [01:24] ok sorry again [01:25] yes my bios is altered [01:25] greg-g: it seems that he's mixing both of them.. don't know for sure... [01:25] I know that from the live cd [01:25] andresmujica: most likely. [01:25] I could sometimes start in safe graphics mode [01:25] thomasdelbeke, by the way, you should refrain from opening a root shell. This is not a good idea, for your own security [01:25] sometimes this option had disappeared [01:26] thomasdelbeke: yes, why do you use 'sudo su' so much? [01:26] oh yeah [01:26] don't use the name of root in vain [01:26] actually, do not be root in vain [01:26] I always have a root and a $USER open at same time [01:27] yes correct hggdh [01:27] why? [01:27] i pick one for each command [01:27] thomasdelbeke, this is really not a good idea. The chances of a mistake are much increased [01:27] ok thanks for the tip [01:28] if you try to run a X application from the root shell, it will fail. [01:28] The thing was I had an extreme pwd [01:28] and it made it very difficult to always type that in [01:28] I will follow your advice there [01:28] oh [01:29] but the (gedit and all other gui things) [01:29] I do not use from the terminal [01:30] thomasdelbeke, back to the gedit issue: (1) open a NEW terminal; (2) on this terminal, type 'gedit whatever'; does gedit open? [01:30] I just click on the icons [01:30] yes know I do not have problems in this particular partition [01:30] The thing is: [01:30] so bug 311237 can be closed? [01:30] on the live cd I had [01:30] Launchpad bug 311237 in gedit "gedit fails to run as root in jaunty" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311237 [01:30] no [01:31] in the other partition the problem still exists [01:31] ??? [01:31] I reinstalled that partition [01:31] whithout formatting [01:31] what other partition? [01:31] it did not go away [01:31] also 8.10 [01:31] hold on [01:32] this is a temporary one [01:32] ok [01:32] I am holding on [01:32] are you telling us you reinstalled 8.10 over an already-installed Ubuntu? [01:32] without reformatting the disk? [01:32] not this one [01:32] that is what I did first yes [01:32] but the problem maintained [01:33] so I reformatted now [01:33] the other partition [01:33] this is a new and temporary one [01:33] to be upgraded to jaunty [01:33] pls execute from a terminal sudo fdisk -l and put it in pastebin. [01:33] through update-manager -c -d [01:34] ok, i am on it [01:34] rember [01:34] !pastebin [01:34] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [01:34] oy vey [01:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/108824/ [01:35] like this? [01:36] I noticed that I could "cure" some of my symptoms [01:36] by reinstalling VGA driver in XP [01:36] likewise in 5050 [01:37] that is on a different partition! [01:37] that would be bug #318276 right? the VGA driver in XP [01:37] the only way I can see that happen is when the BIOS is altered [01:37] Launchpad bug 318276 in xorg "serious xserver-xorg problem in 8.10" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318276 [01:37] no [01:38] that one is not mine [01:38] hmmm??? [01:39] (19:54:21) thomasdelbeke: [01:39] OK, this is one: 318276 [01:39] I have: 311237 318276 [01:39] yes that one [01:39] and a few others [01:39] Tormod Volden pointed out to me first that the BIOS is crap [01:39] he is right [01:40] but I reflashed with the latest BIOS [01:40] there is no alternative [01:40] OpenBIOS and u-boot and such won't work people say [01:41] thomasdelbeke, are we still talking about gedit? [01:41] no, like I told you, I named the bug gedit, but the symptom there was that every gui failed to open [01:42] also firefox, update-manager [01:42] how did you start them? From the icons? [01:42] it was the Magic cookie .. deprecated ... [01:42] yes from icons [01:42] I apologise if I flouded that gedit thing [01:43] I can repeat it though [01:43] If you can tell me what you need [01:43] thomasdelbeke, please do the following: (1) close *all* terminals; (2) click on a programme shown as an icon [01:43] I can do it from the live CD [01:43] does it work? [01:44] now off course, I am working from a stable and fully updated partition, but my other partition is bust, although also a harddisk partition, with an intact file system [01:45] that is the strange stuff there [01:45] does it work? The answer should be an 'yes' or 'no' [01:45] yes [01:45] the home on both installations is different, right? [01:45] yes [01:45] ok, [01:45] andresmujica, good catch [01:46] get your data from the bad partition [01:46] and move it to your good installation [01:46] the other worked fine five minutes before I contacted you [01:46] and remove the bad partition [01:46] and you'll be fine! [01:46] thomasdelbeke, can you please pastebin the output of 'mount'? [01:46] ok i will patebin [01:46] sorry i type slow [01:46] but no I will not be fine [01:47] I just ran on the other partition: [01:47] yes, you'll have a lot more space available!! [01:47] dar -x .dar [01:47] that is what triggered it [01:47] thomasdelbeke, can you please pastebin the output of 'mount'? [01:55] * hggdh considers getting karma by attaching files to bugs [02:02] Hi ther [02:03] Is this the channel? [02:03] Sorry, [02:03] one of my housemates pulled the switch [02:03] then network-manager crashes [02:04] I am now in my sick partition [02:04] firefox does not work correctly [02:05] is there a standalone irc client in main? [02:05] Hi there hggdh [02:06] thomasdelbeke, I am here [02:06] Ok [02:06] I am now in my sick partition [02:06] I was stopped because my housemate turned the modem switch [02:06] sorry about that [02:07] I do not know what irc clients are in main [02:07] oh thanks [02:07] I now do pastebin [02:07] !pastebin [02:07] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [02:07] no not working [02:07] sigh [02:08] thomasdelbeke, so you have three partitions: one Windows, and two linux. [02:09] the Linux systems, do they see each other's partitions? [02:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/108835/ [02:11] Hey, bug 320440 is blocking the packaging of an application that is a core component of a desktop enviornment (Sugar, spesifically the "sugar-write-acitivity"). I think it's technically wishlist, but can I put it higher since it's kinda important to a now-dropped package? [02:11] Launchpad bug 320440 in abiword "Sugar needs abiword built with libabiword" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320440 [02:12] yes [02:12] correct [02:12] pastebin still opens in firefox [02:12] I just installed epiphany [02:12] this is not sick [02:12] you want me to test something now [02:12] I have one #root and one $USER [02:12] gnome-terminal that is (open) [02:12] I now have the keypad problem again [02:12] this was not there anymore after I reinstalled with reformatting [02:12] also the 'sick' firefox went away (not the all gui do not open) [02:12] lfaraone: shouldn't really matter what the importance is set to, if it is an issue to build another package it should be done anyways (and then the conversation should be in #ubuntu-motu ;) ) [02:13] after dar -x [02:13] yes [02:13] you found the pastebin? [02:13] thomasdelbeke, CLOSE the root session. Please learn to live without root (or use sudo, but *NOT* 'sudo su -') [02:14] ok [02:14] root down [02:14] yes, you provided the link [02:14] thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ pidof su [02:14] thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ [02:14] thomas@thomas-laptop:~$ I will be good boy [02:14] swell [02:15] Yes the partitions see each other [02:15] I had errors with the ntfs ones [02:15] That is both my hard disk one [02:16] and two backup drives [02:16] I installed mount manager [02:16] disk manager [02:16] I do that from gui now [02:16] k [02:17] so you are now running off the bad partition, correct? [02:17] I used mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk before .. [02:17] yes this is the bad partition [02:17] but it became bad without installing anything [02:17] you used 'mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk' when you were booted in the good patition, correct? [02:17] that is weird [02:18] no [02:18] I have not used it for ages [02:18] I used it before reformatting (ages ago) [02:18] ok [02:18] now only gui [02:19] so you reformatted the bad partition and reinstalled Linux 8.10. Correct? [02:19] yes [02:19] did you install *ANYTHING* else (apart from standard Ubuntu packages)? [02:19] yes [02:19] skype [02:19] virtualbox- [02:20] virtualbox-2.1 [02:20] sorry (right keypad) [02:20] and freespeak [02:20] freespeak is in main [02:20] but does not work anymore [02:20]