| nooblar | hi | 00:39 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | asac: fta: ping | 10:17 |
| BUGabundo | FF 3.2 is always freezing with Script: chrome://browser/content/tabbrowser.xml:247 | 10:18 |
| BUGabundo | known bug? | 10:18 |
| BUGabundo | asac RT | 10:33 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| BUGabundo | FF 3.2 is always freezing with Script: chrome://browser/content/tabbrowser.xml:247 | 10:33 |
| BUGabundo | known bug? | 10:33 |
| BUGabundo | are you here asac?? seeing a lot of disconects | 10:34 |
| BUGabundo | asac: please ping me (identica or mail) on how to get java plugin onto FF 3.{1,2} | 10:46 |
| BUGabundo | I don't see it on about:plugins so some site won't work | 10:47 |
| BUGabundo | like vipeers! | 10:47 |
| BUGabundo | thanks | 10:47 |
| fta | mozilla bug 471359 | 13:30 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 471359 in Build Config "trunk build broken with "libxul.so: hidden symbol `deflate' isn't defined"" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471359 | 13:30 |
| asac | fta: join some of the identi.ca groups too ;) | 13:53 |
| fta | just joined 2 | 13:53 |
| asac | heh | 13:53 |
| asac | cool | 13:53 |
| asac | i think this feature existed before ... i never noticed it though | 13:53 |
| fta | are we supposed to get messages from all members now? | 13:54 |
| asac | i dont think they will appear on your personal timeline | 13:54 |
| asac | maybe gwibber could also have "group" tabs | 13:54 |
| asac | with the messages of your groups | 13:54 |
| asac | joining groups is more for easier finding each other | 13:55 |
| asac | and subscribing to more folks ; ) | 13:55 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bjorn-runaker-se/network-manager/trunk.mbm | 14:05 |
| asac | what a messy tree (again) | 14:05 |
| asac | he pushed overwrote something perfectly like https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bjorn-runaker-se/modemmanager/trunk.mbm | 14:06 |
| asac | with a huge code-drop again ... | 14:06 |
| asac | fta: seems like your message needs: !ubuntu to show up on the ubuntu group page | 14:08 |
| asac | http://identi.ca/group/ubuntu | 14:08 |
| asac | didnt work for my laconica thopugh | 14:08 |
| fta | lol, why reset history? | 14:11 |
| asac | so the setting for the jabber contact disappeared from the website ... however, now the notices get delivered to my jabber again (even though i opted-out weeks ago) | 14:11 |
| asac | fta: reset history? you mean my complaint not to delete stuff? | 14:12 |
| fta | <asac> what a messy tree (again) | 14:12 |
| asac | ah | 14:12 |
| asac | yeah | 14:12 |
| asac | fta: i dont know why | 14:12 |
| asac | i thought i understood what makes sense and what is senseless | 14:12 |
| asac | he complained to me "push says it has diverged" | 14:12 |
| asac | i told him: use a different name so i can take a look please | 14:12 |
| asac | next he said: "pushed --overwrite" | 14:13 |
| asac | me: that sucks | 14:13 |
| fta | lol | 14:13 |
| asac | i can only hope that the /momdemanager/ branch was the previous snapshot so i can at least diff on my own | 14:14 |
| asac | mkdir ubuntu_mm/bjornbackup | 14:15 |
| asac | cd ubuntu_mm/bjornbackup/ | 14:15 |
| asac | buntu_mm/bjornbackup$ bzr branch lp:~bjorn-runaker-se/modemmanager/trunk.mbm | 14:15 |
| asac | lets get the backups quick ;) | 14:15 |
| asac | fta: so it seems that messages directly to group | 14:16 |
| asac | go to your timeline too | 14:16 |
| asac | e.g. http://identi.ca/asac/all | 14:16 |
| asac | i am not subscribed to ihirliann | 14:17 |
| asac | mann | 14:17 |
| asac | so you will see all !ubuntu messages | 14:17 |
| asac | but not every message from all !ubuntu members | 14:17 |
| fta | ask the group :) | 14:17 |
| asac | sounds sensible | 14:17 |
| asac | i like that ;) | 14:17 |
| asac | fta: interesting is that !laconica seems really not to work | 14:18 |
| asac | even his message has no link on website | 14:18 |
| asac | and gwibber doesnt know about that feature at all | 14:18 |
| asac | linkwise | 14:18 |
| asac | -> new feature request to implement | 14:18 |
| fta | i think it's a new feature | 14:18 |
| asac | should be rather simple i assume | 14:18 |
| asac | groups? | 14:18 |
| fta | yes | 14:18 |
| asac | i dont think so | 14:18 |
| asac | uds exists | 14:18 |
| asac | i doubt that someone created that group since 23rd jan | 14:19 |
| fta | it was a user, no? | 14:19 |
| asac | fta: a user? | 14:20 |
| asac | oh four joined ubuntu after us already | 14:20 |
| asac | thats good growth rate ;) | 14:20 |
| fta | damn, all my disks are > 99.5% :( | 14:21 |
| asac | so seems that i am currently the top blocker for releasing debian lenny | 14:23 |
| fta | grr, that tray bug is getting on my nerves, i lost my gwibber window, again | 14:24 |
| asac | shitty | 14:24 |
| asac | http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ | 14:24 |
| asac | green line is close to zero | 14:24 |
| asac | and iceape blocking the release | 14:24 |
| asac | i am supposed to do the transition that allows iceape-browser to be removed from testing :( | 14:25 |
| fta | removed? | 14:26 |
| fta | transition to what? | 14:26 |
| asac | icedove | 14:26 |
| asac | we want to remove iceape to reduce security work | 14:26 |
| asac | for stable | 14:26 |
| asac | unfortunately everything build depends on iceape | 14:26 |
| asac | as it provides the 1.8 glue | 14:26 |
| asac | also some seem to use it for other stuff | 14:27 |
| asac | which can be more tricky i guess | 14:27 |
| fta | eh? you transition a browser to a MUA? | 14:29 |
| asac | what a mess | 14:29 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/108982/ | 14:29 |
| asac | fta: well. most use it to get the dependent glue | 14:29 |
| asac | not for the rendering capabilities | 14:30 |
| asac | sometimes i wonder how anyone can achieve anything when code changes in such a confused fashion | 14:34 |
| asac | there must be major confusion during development | 14:34 |
| asac | commented code; reindentation without sense. all this stuff that makes understanding the actual changes cumbersome | 14:35 |
| asac | just save everything and commit from top | 14:35 |
| asac | i am sure that laziness | 14:36 |
| asac | e.g. not looking at diffs before commit ... or not cleaning stuff up at all | 14:36 |
| asac | i am getting more confident that they will never get this in a form suitable for upstream inclusion | 14:38 |
| asac | sigh | 14:38 |
| * asac will die on this | 14:38 | |
| * sebner winks asac | 14:39 | |
| asac | thanks! | 14:39 |
| asac | ;) | 14:39 |
| fta | asac, oh, he's not upstream? | 14:39 |
| asac | depends on how you define upstream ;) | 14:40 |
| asac | he gives me those code drops | 14:40 |
| asac | but i will definitly not put that into the distro | 14:40 |
| asac | he forked modemmanager,networkmanager and applet | 14:40 |
| fta | i don't understand, who is upstream then? fedora? that guy? a community? | 14:42 |
| asac | but i am sure that evolution will solve this ... they will have to rewrite everything in order to get that mess rebased on 0.7 | 14:42 |
| asac | fta: the upstream maintainer is Dan Williams from redhat | 14:42 |
| asac | and Ingo Tambet works a lot from suse | 14:42 |
| asac | who is the upstream maintainer for modemmanager | 14:42 |
| asac | bjorn is from a modem company ;) | 14:43 |
| fta | oh | 14:43 |
| asac | they have a really wierd modem ;) | 14:44 |
| asac | especially their driver approach is fun ;) | 14:45 |
| asac | they have a usbnet driver that on its own annouces itself as a wired network driver | 14:45 |
| asac | then they use hal-info stuff to make a modem device out of it ;) | 14:45 |
| asac | but use ifconfig in modemmanager to make the usbnet device get the IP and stuff (e.g. no ppp) | 14:46 |
| asac | http://markmail.org/message/a2pu5f3d4xxs76r7#query:mbm%20driver%20carl+page:1+mid:qmj7zec2nk3js4ge+state:results | 14:48 |
| asac | crazy | 14:52 |
| asac | A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo | asac: ping | 14:55 |
| asac | BUGabundo: whats the problem? i couldnt parse your exact issue ;) | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 15:00 |
| BUGabundo | hi. good afternoon | 15:00 |
| BUGabundo | it seems I can't enable the java ff plugin | 15:01 |
| BUGabundo | I see it on synaptic, but sites ask me to install it, anyway, but I only get that wizard saying it failed | 15:01 |
| BUGabundo | that I should do a manual install | 15:01 |
| BUGabundo | asac: does this make any more sense? | 15:05 |
| asac | BUGabundo: not sure. which plugin are you trying to install? | 15:29 |
| BUGabundo | err | 15:29 |
| BUGabundo | the java one ? | 15:29 |
| asac | which | 15:29 |
| asac | there is not only one | 15:29 |
| BUGabundo | err yeah.. there are a bunch of them now | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | it used to be just SUNs | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | let me check alternative | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/108999/ | 15:31 |
| asac | BUGabundo: there is a xulrunner plugin alternative | 15:32 |
| asac | try to change that | 15:32 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/109000/ yeah, got the 000 :) | 15:32 |
| asac | java isnt used for plugin, just for the runtime binary | 15:32 |
| BUGabundo | asac: so what should I try to install? | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | fta: $ fennec could not read application.ini | 16:43 |
| fta | BUGabundo, do you have xul 1.9.1 ? | 16:44 |
| BUGabundo | fta let me check | 16:46 |
| fta | BUGabundo, please show me: ls -l `which fennec` | 16:46 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy xulrunner-1.9.1 Installed: 1.9.1~b3~hg20090117r22878+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1 | 16:47 |
| BUGabundo | !ls -l `which fennec` | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 16:47 |
| fta | $ ls -l `which fennec` | 16:47 |
| fta | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-01-14 16:43 /usr/bin/fennec -> ../lib/fennec-1.0a2/fennec | 16:47 |
| fta | BUGabundo, ^^ | 16:50 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | looks the same doesn't it? | 16:51 |
| fta | BUGabundo, eh? not to me. here is what i see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/109028/ | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | LOL didn't pidgin echoed mine ? | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 16:53 |
| fta | i want to make sure you have a symlink in /usr/bin | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | $ ls -l `which fennec` | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-01-14 08:22 /usr/bin/fennec -> ../lib/fennec-1.0a2/fennec* | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | how funny!! pidgin isn't echoing my commands!! let me turn on the '!' prefix instead of '/exec' | 16:54 |
| fta | you should use a proper irc client, so you could stay idle instead of going on and off every few minutes, never receiving answers to your questions | 16:54 |
| BUGabundo | fta im sorry! pidgin is crashing a lot due to PA bug! | 16:54 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/317897 | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 317897 in pulseaudio "pidgin crash with Pulse Audio" [Undecided,New] | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo | other wise it should be up for longer! | 16:55 |
| fta | irc is not an IM protocol so pidgin is imho not the right tool for it | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo | fta we will discuss that some other day... | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo | its the client I use, and it sutes my needs, unless it is broken | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo | fta so I have the fennec link | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo | now what? | 16:56 |
| fta | i'm puzzled. looks like fennec is not able to get the proper MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME from the stub. try to remove fennec and reinstall it | 16:58 |
| BUGabundo | okay | 16:58 |
| BUGabundo | foo | 17:00 |
| BUGabundo | did you just see that 'foo' ? | 17:00 |
| fta | yes | 17:00 |
| BUGabundo | ok then it's a pidgin plugin bug! need to file it | 17:00 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo apt-get install fennec | 17:01 |
| BUGabundo | $ fennec Could not read application.ini | 17:03 |
| fta | sudo dpkg --purge fennec ; sudo apt-get install fennec | 17:03 |
| BUGabundo | grrr | 17:04 |
| BUGabundo | already remove it! ok will do again with dpkg | 17:04 |
| fta | remove != purge | 17:05 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/109032/ | 17:05 |
| BUGabundo | I did apt-get remove --purge fennec | 17:05 |
| BUGabundo | still I get the same | 17:06 |
| BUGabundo | after dpkg | 17:06 |
| fta | hm, i have no clue then. i remember this already happened a while ago but i don't remember the fix. i'm on something else right now, i'll have a look later | 17:07 |
| BUGabundo | np | 17:07 |
| BUGabundo | dent me when you have it fix | 17:07 |
| fta | does it work if you start fennec with "MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/fennec-1.0a2 fennec" ? | 17:09 |
| BUGabundo | $ MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/fennec-1.0a2 fennec Could not read application.ini | 17:09 |
| fta | and with: "cd /usr/lib/fennec-1.0a2 ; ./fennec" ? | 17:10 |
| BUGabundo | works | 17:13 |
| fta | ok, good. that's an hint. | 17:13 |
| fta | asac, ^^ i think we already encountered that, right? | 17:14 |
| BUGabundo | wasn't he out for lunch with mom? | 17:16 |
| BUGabundo | still need to fix my java firefox plugin... didn't get what he meant! | 17:16 |
| fta | yep, but he'll get it when he's done, that's the idea of staying idle on irc, compared to using IM | 17:17 |
| BUGabundo | I know! | 17:17 |
| fta | (no offense intended :)) | 17:17 |
| BUGabundo | non taken! | 17:18 |
| fta | openkomodo is getting on my nerves | 17:18 |
| BUGabundo | I already have to many interaction apps open... I don't think I can handle on more | 17:19 |
| BUGabundo | LOL fta | 17:19 |
| BUGabundo | what model do you have? | 17:19 |
| BUGabundo | cant wait until I get my hands on a FOSS handhelp! | 17:19 |
| fta | i'm packaging 5.10.0-something | 17:19 |
| fta | model of what? | 17:20 |
| BUGabundo | of the openmoko | 17:21 |
| BUGabundo | oppss | 17:21 |
| BUGabundo | miss read! | 17:21 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOLOLOLOL | 17:21 |
| BUGabundo | ok I need to go eat something... eheh | 17:22 |
| BUGabundo | fta do you have a minute? | 17:25 |
| fta | what for? | 17:25 |
| BUGabundo | debug | 17:25 |
| BUGabundo | firefox plugin | 17:25 |
| BUGabundo | actually addon: fullerscreen | 17:25 |
| fta | not really | 17:25 |
| fta | sorry | 17:26 |
| BUGabundo | not sure if it is a bug on the addon or FF | 17:26 |
| fta | i'm not really into addons | 17:26 |
| BUGabundo | np . that's why I asked | 17:26 |
| fta | asac and Jazzva are | 17:26 |
| BUGabundo | I mentioned you were busy | 17:26 |
| BUGabundo | don't know Jazzva... time to nag the new guy | 17:26 |
| BUGabundo | Jazzva: ping | 17:26 |
| fta | asac, openkomodo happens to have an --official switch documented as "build a clean unpatched mozilla or firefox" | 22:11 |
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