[00:39] hi [10:17] asac: fta: ping [10:18] FF 3.2 is always freezing with Script: chrome://browser/content/tabbrowser.xml:247 [10:18] known bug? [10:33] asac RT === asac_ is now known as asac [10:33] FF 3.2 is always freezing with Script: chrome://browser/content/tabbrowser.xml:247 [10:33] known bug? [10:34] are you here asac?? seeing a lot of disconects [10:46] asac: please ping me (identica or mail) on how to get java plugin onto FF 3.{1,2} [10:47] I don't see it on about:plugins so some site won't work [10:47] like vipeers! [10:47] thanks [13:30] mozilla bug 471359 [13:30] Mozilla bug 471359 in Build Config "trunk build broken with "libxul.so: hidden symbol `deflate' isn't defined"" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471359 [13:53] fta: join some of the identi.ca groups too ;) [13:53] just joined 2 [13:53] heh [13:53] cool [13:53] i think this feature existed before ... i never noticed it though [13:54] are we supposed to get messages from all members now? [13:54] i dont think they will appear on your personal timeline [13:54] maybe gwibber could also have "group" tabs [13:54] with the messages of your groups [13:55] joining groups is more for easier finding each other [13:55] and subscribing to more folks ; ) [14:05] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bjorn-runaker-se/network-manager/trunk.mbm [14:05] what a messy tree (again) [14:06] he pushed overwrote something perfectly like https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bjorn-runaker-se/modemmanager/trunk.mbm [14:06] with a huge code-drop again ... [14:08] fta: seems like your message needs: !ubuntu to show up on the ubuntu group page [14:08] http://identi.ca/group/ubuntu [14:08] didnt work for my laconica thopugh [14:11] lol, why reset history? [14:11] so the setting for the jabber contact disappeared from the website ... however, now the notices get delivered to my jabber again (even though i opted-out weeks ago) [14:12] fta: reset history? you mean my complaint not to delete stuff? [14:12] what a messy tree (again) [14:12] ah [14:12] yeah [14:12] fta: i dont know why [14:12] i thought i understood what makes sense and what is senseless [14:12] he complained to me "push says it has diverged" [14:12] i told him: use a different name so i can take a look please [14:13] next he said: "pushed --overwrite" [14:13] me: that sucks [14:13] lol [14:14] i can only hope that the /momdemanager/ branch was the previous snapshot so i can at least diff on my own [14:15] mkdir ubuntu_mm/bjornbackup [14:15] cd ubuntu_mm/bjornbackup/ [14:15] buntu_mm/bjornbackup$ bzr branch lp:~bjorn-runaker-se/modemmanager/trunk.mbm [14:15] lets get the backups quick ;) [14:16] fta: so it seems that messages directly to group [14:16] go to your timeline too [14:16] e.g. http://identi.ca/asac/all [14:17] i am not subscribed to ihirliann [14:17] mann [14:17] so you will see all !ubuntu messages [14:17] but not every message from all !ubuntu members [14:17] ask the group :) [14:17] sounds sensible [14:17] i like that ;) [14:18] fta: interesting is that !laconica seems really not to work [14:18] even his message has no link on website [14:18] and gwibber doesnt know about that feature at all [14:18] linkwise [14:18] -> new feature request to implement [14:18] i think it's a new feature [14:18] should be rather simple i assume [14:18] groups? [14:18] yes [14:18] i dont think so [14:18] uds exists [14:19] i doubt that someone created that group since 23rd jan [14:19] it was a user, no? [14:20] fta: a user? [14:20] oh four joined ubuntu after us already [14:20] thats good growth rate ;) [14:21] damn, all my disks are > 99.5% :( [14:23] so seems that i am currently the top blocker for releasing debian lenny [14:24] grr, that tray bug is getting on my nerves, i lost my gwibber window, again [14:24] shitty [14:24] http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ [14:24] green line is close to zero [14:24] and iceape blocking the release [14:25] i am supposed to do the transition that allows iceape-browser to be removed from testing :( [14:26] removed? [14:26] transition to what? [14:26] icedove [14:26] we want to remove iceape to reduce security work [14:26] for stable [14:26] unfortunately everything build depends on iceape [14:26] as it provides the 1.8 glue [14:27] also some seem to use it for other stuff [14:27] which can be more tricky i guess [14:29] eh? you transition a browser to a MUA? [14:29] what a mess [14:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/108982/ [14:29] fta: well. most use it to get the dependent glue [14:30] not for the rendering capabilities [14:34] sometimes i wonder how anyone can achieve anything when code changes in such a confused fashion [14:34] there must be major confusion during development [14:35] commented code; reindentation without sense. all this stuff that makes understanding the actual changes cumbersome [14:35] just save everything and commit from top [14:36] i am sure that laziness [14:36] e.g. not looking at diffs before commit ... or not cleaning stuff up at all [14:38] i am getting more confident that they will never get this in a form suitable for upstream inclusion [14:38] sigh [14:38] * asac will die on this [14:39] * sebner winks asac [14:39] thanks! [14:39] ;) [14:39] asac, oh, he's not upstream? [14:40] depends on how you define upstream ;) [14:40] he gives me those code drops [14:40] but i will definitly not put that into the distro [14:40] he forked modemmanager,networkmanager and applet [14:42] i don't understand, who is upstream then? fedora? that guy? a community? [14:42] but i am sure that evolution will solve this ... they will have to rewrite everything in order to get that mess rebased on 0.7 [14:42] fta: the upstream maintainer is Dan Williams from redhat [14:42] and Ingo Tambet works a lot from suse [14:42] who is the upstream maintainer for modemmanager [14:43] bjorn is from a modem company ;) [14:43] oh [14:44] they have a really wierd modem ;) [14:45] especially their driver approach is fun ;) [14:45] they have a usbnet driver that on its own annouces itself as a wired network driver [14:45] then they use hal-info stuff to make a modem device out of it ;) [14:46] but use ifconfig in modemmanager to make the usbnet device get the IP and stuff (e.g. no ppp) [14:48] http://markmail.org/message/a2pu5f3d4xxs76r7#query:mbm%20driver%20carl+page:1+mid:qmj7zec2nk3js4ge+state:results [14:52] crazy [14:53] A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? [14:55] asac: ping [14:58] BUGabundo: whats the problem? i couldnt parse your exact issue ;) [15:00] LOL [15:00] hi. good afternoon [15:01] it seems I can't enable the java ff plugin [15:01] I see it on synaptic, but sites ask me to install it, anyway, but I only get that wizard saying it failed [15:01] that I should do a manual install [15:05] asac: does this make any more sense? [15:29] BUGabundo: not sure. which plugin are you trying to install? [15:29] err [15:29] the java one ? [15:29] which [15:29] there is not only one [15:30] err yeah.. there are a bunch of them now [15:30] it used to be just SUNs [15:30] let me check alternative [15:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/108999/ [15:32] BUGabundo: there is a xulrunner plugin alternative [15:32] try to change that [15:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/109000/ yeah, got the 000 :) [15:32] java isnt used for plugin, just for the runtime binary [15:33] asac: so what should I try to install? [16:43] fta: $ fennec could not read application.ini [16:44] BUGabundo, do you have xul 1.9.1 ? [16:46] fta let me check [16:46] BUGabundo, please show me: ls -l `which fennec` [16:47] $ apt-cache policy xulrunner-1.9.1 Installed: 1.9.1~b3~hg20090117r22878+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1 [16:47] !ls -l `which fennec` [16:47] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:47] $ ls -l `which fennec` [16:47] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-01-14 16:43 /usr/bin/fennec -> ../lib/fennec-1.0a2/fennec [16:50] BUGabundo, ^^ [16:51] lol [16:51] looks the same doesn't it? [16:52] BUGabundo, eh? not to me. here is what i see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/109028/ [16:53] LOL didn't pidgin echoed mine ? [16:53] lol [16:53] i want to make sure you have a symlink in /usr/bin [16:53] $ ls -l `which fennec` [16:53] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-01-14 08:22 /usr/bin/fennec -> ../lib/fennec-1.0a2/fennec* [16:54] how funny!! pidgin isn't echoing my commands!! let me turn on the '!' prefix instead of '/exec' [16:54] you should use a proper irc client, so you could stay idle instead of going on and off every few minutes, never receiving answers to your questions [16:54] fta im sorry! pidgin is crashing a lot due to PA bug! [16:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/317897 [16:55] Launchpad bug 317897 in pulseaudio "pidgin crash with Pulse Audio" [Undecided,New] [16:55] other wise it should be up for longer! [16:55] irc is not an IM protocol so pidgin is imho not the right tool for it [16:55] fta we will discuss that some other day... [16:56] its the client I use, and it sutes my needs, unless it is broken [16:56] fta so I have the fennec link [16:56] now what? [16:58] i'm puzzled. looks like fennec is not able to get the proper MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME from the stub. try to remove fennec and reinstall it [16:58] okay [17:00] foo [17:00] did you just see that 'foo' ? [17:00] yes [17:00] ok then it's a pidgin plugin bug! need to file it [17:01] $ sudo apt-get install fennec [17:03] $ fennec Could not read application.ini [17:03] sudo dpkg --purge fennec ; sudo apt-get install fennec [17:04] grrr [17:04] already remove it! ok will do again with dpkg [17:05] remove != purge [17:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/109032/ [17:05] I did apt-get remove --purge fennec [17:06] still I get the same [17:06] after dpkg [17:07] hm, i have no clue then. i remember this already happened a while ago but i don't remember the fix. i'm on something else right now, i'll have a look later [17:07] np [17:07] dent me when you have it fix [17:09] does it work if you start fennec with "MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/fennec-1.0a2 fennec" ? [17:09] $ MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/fennec-1.0a2 fennec Could not read application.ini [17:10] and with: "cd /usr/lib/fennec-1.0a2 ; ./fennec" ? [17:13] works [17:13] ok, good. that's an hint. [17:14] asac, ^^ i think we already encountered that, right? [17:16] wasn't he out for lunch with mom? [17:16] still need to fix my java firefox plugin... didn't get what he meant! [17:17] yep, but he'll get it when he's done, that's the idea of staying idle on irc, compared to using IM [17:17] I know! [17:17] (no offense intended :)) [17:18] non taken! [17:18] openkomodo is getting on my nerves [17:19] I already have to many interaction apps open... I don't think I can handle on more [17:19] LOL fta [17:19] what model do you have? [17:19] cant wait until I get my hands on a FOSS handhelp! [17:19] i'm packaging 5.10.0-something [17:20] model of what? [17:21] of the openmoko [17:21] oppss [17:21] miss read! [17:21] LOLOLOLOLOL [17:22] ok I need to go eat something... eheh [17:25] fta do you have a minute? [17:25] what for? [17:25] debug [17:25] firefox plugin [17:25] actually addon: fullerscreen [17:25] not really [17:26] sorry [17:26] not sure if it is a bug on the addon or FF [17:26] i'm not really into addons [17:26] np . that's why I asked [17:26] asac and Jazzva are [17:26] I mentioned you were busy [17:26] don't know Jazzva... time to nag the new guy [17:26] Jazzva: ping [22:11] asac, openkomodo happens to have an --official switch documented as "build a clean unpatched mozilla or firefox"