/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/01/25/#kubuntu.txt

ghostcubePapfox, you mean some garbaged new created windows ?00:00
ghostcubeand an frozen log out image ?00:00
ghostcubebug 25446800:01
ghostcubeoO00:02
PapfoxCurrently running Kdebase 4.1.4ununtu1~intrepid2. Garbage in newly created windows for a couple of seconds is a symptom - not sure if it was relevant. Not getting frozen logout image.00:03
ghostcubenvidia 180x ?00:04
ghostcubebut doesnt matter this is a problem inside kubuntu and fc1000:04
ghostcubemoment00:04
PapfoxThe biggest pain is that if I have SecondLife running and I bring up Firefox over it to look something up scrolling renders the scrolled portion of th epage unreadable.00:04
marcellibrary libncurses.so.5 exist, how can i find documentation about it ?00:05
ghostcubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/25446800:05
Papfoxnvidia 17700:05
walbertHey folks.  I'm doing some work on a project that uses GTK under Kubuntu, and I'd like to be able to change my gtk themes around.  I installed gtk-engine-* and gtk-theme-switch2, but i still only get the default options of Qt4 and Raleigh.  What am I doing wrong?00:06
PapfoxThat bug looks liek one of the problems but it's the scrolling corruption that is driving em mad.00:07
PapfoxShould I try nvidia 180?00:07
PapfoxI can see it in Synaptic but not in the Hardware Drivers tool.00:08
ghostcubePapfox, wouldnt help but afaik this should get into SRU as ScottK told in the bug report00:10
ghostcubestable release upgrade00:10
dsnaikePapfox i had same problem upgraded to kde4.2 it worked for me00:11
PapfoxIs 4.2 in one of the repos? If so which one?00:12
jammen33deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main00:12
jammen33i think00:12
dsnaikePapfox www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1 will give u whats needed00:13
ghostcubein 2 days the final comes out00:13
ghostcubemaybe wait this two days :)00:13
PapfoxThanks guys. I'll do that. WHen is it due to go mainstream?00:14
jammen33teh 28thish ithink00:16
PapfoxIs that when it will find its way into the standard repos (I have backports and proposed turned on)00:19
jammen33ithink it wont be relised on intrepid00:19
jammen33u'll have to use the ppa00:19
jammen33or go to jaunty00:20
PapfoxThanks. The other option would be to give KDE4 up as a bad job. Is it possible to go back to KDE3 on Intrepid?00:21
jammen33no00:21
jammen33it was a kde4 only00:21
jammen33you would have to go back to 8.0400:21
ghostcubePapfox, hmm kde 4.2 will be fine00:21
ghostcubemore options00:21
jammen33im using kde4.2 now and it works great00:22
ghostcubeand the video problem  is not kde related00:22
PapfoxDo you know what it is if it's not KDE?00:22
ghostcubean error in xorg00:23
ghostcubebut the nvidia 180 drivers from repo would be better too for your card00:23
ghostcubecan anyone confirm that sorting the items in kde 4.x in k-menu classic isnt working00:24
ghostcubeit doesnt take care of the menu editor ?00:24
PapfoxThanks :) Ghostcube, do you know if a bug has been filed against this in xorg?00:25
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ghostcubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/25446800:25
dsnaikePapfox what decorator is in use kwib,compiz is good gtk will cause your problems to00:25
PapfoxThanks00:26
Papfox@dsnaike, I'm not sure what you mean. What is a decorator and how do I find out?00:28
BattleStarJesusI'm running Kubuntu with the Nvidia driver (version 177.82), I have using Compiz-Fusion and Emerald.  When I open video media with any media player it plays, but when I try to enable full-screen or try to play the next video in a playlist, the player shuts down. What is causing this to happen and how do I resolve it?00:29
dsnaikeis compiz installed00:29
PapfoxLoads of compiz packages installed.00:30
dsnaikefusion icon to00:31
marceli find ncurses docu on google instead of man -k ncurses , yeah..., :)00:31
Papfox(Is that what is trapping CTRL-ALT-SHIFT and the arrows in Gnome? It's interfering with Secondlife)00:31
PapfoxI can't see any icons in the bar that say they are compiz00:32
dsnaikeI use compiz fusion icon to load kwin or compiz decorator gtk causes video problems00:32
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dsnaikeuse synaptic or adept to install fusion icon easy way to control everything00:33
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PapfoxIs that the compiz-kde package?00:35
dsnaikeyes00:35
dsnaikebut go thru the list and select what you need00:36
PapfoxWill that cause the CTRL_ALT_SHIFT_arrows to be trapped like in Gnome?00:38
dsnaikeif what will cause it00:39
PapfoxInstalling compiz on KDE? SOmething is trapping that key combo in Gnome (thought it might be compiz) to switch workspaces. It's a killer for Secondlife as that is one of the key combos that moves the camera00:41
dsnaikeuse ctrl-alt-mousebutton100:42
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PapfoxThanks :)00:43
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dsnaikePapfox there are more progs and games than key combinations they overlap00:44
ghostcubePapfox, sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common00:44
ghostcubeif anything is missing :)00:44
dsnaikefusion icon00:45
PapfoxJust as long as I can change that key combo if I need :)00:45
ghostcubehmm not the best way for startup only for comtroööing00:46
ghostcubecontrolling00:46
dsnaikeyes in compiz settings manager00:46
PapfoxALT-arrows, CTRL-ALT-arrows and CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-arrows are the camera control functions and if you use SL you use them all the time.00:47
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dsnaikecompiz allows u to change combos00:48
ghostcubeor just use kwin for gaming00:48
ghostcube:)00:48
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dsnaikeperfect gostcube00:48
dsnaikeghostcube00:48
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no1peacedragonI had KDE4 crash last night while installing updates and ran a backtrace, it responded invalid backtrace what does that mean just curious00:57
PapfoxThanks everyone :)00:58
no1peacedragonguess it only happens to me01:03
KuaeraHello; I was wondering if there was any way of getting alternate icons for layouts in the KDE Keyboard Layout Switcher, as US Qwerty and US Dvorak look the same01:06
etfbShould I be worried that my dmesg dump includes the line "apm: BIOS not found"?01:07
byteme_I have a friend that wants to try kubuntu01:12
byteme_and I am hes. to give him kde 4.1.1 as in my opinion it harder to use than 3.501:13
byteme_4.1 to me is overly complex for a simple operation that would be less clicks in 3.501:14
byteme_am I thinking wrong? after all 3.5 is on its way out01:14
mefisto__byteme_: nothing wrong with that thinking. I'd agree01:15
byteme_I just built him a great system and he will be dual booting01:16
mefisto__byteme_: you could give your friend kubuntu hardy (which has kde3) and install kde4 from ppa repo for a taste of things to come01:17
byteme_I told like to give away anything but the latest stuff, but I feel I will be getting a ton more 'help me & how to' calls with 4.101:17
byteme_yeah, good idea01:18
mefisto__byteme_: then you'll have the opportunity to help with the upgrade to 9.04 when kde4 will hopefully be more mature01:19
byteme_yeah sweet01:19
hec_hello @ all, need help to configure my wlan card in kubuntu 8.1001:20
hec_with the network manager i dont find a network01:21
byteme_its funny I am beta testing Windows 7 for M$... and the start bar is a complete rip off the KDE task bar01:21
byteme_(3.5 version)01:22
byteme_it's a spoofed up version of Vista01:22
jammen33nice01:22
byteme_the start bar id even partially trasparent01:23
jammen33well at least their copying something good01:23
byteme_I wonder when they will ever get an original idea01:24
jammen333033?01:24
byteme_they used to have so many cool new stuff, now they copy Linux and MAC01:24
byteme_true01:24
jammen33is their still there01:24
byteme_?01:25
jammen33if MS is still around in 303301:25
hec_has nobody a tip for me?01:25
byteme_lol, got yeah01:25
byteme_hec_: is it a fresh install?01:26
etfb*** I just made my sound work!!!!01:26
hec_yes, with the updates per cable01:26
etfbHow the hell did I do that???01:26
etfbWeird!01:26
hec_i se the card with lspci01:26
etfbI think it was the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel!01:27
etfbNow how do I make that persistent for the next time I boot?  Does anyone know?01:27
mister-tea-laptoadd it to grub01:27
byteme_should be auto, but i have seen where it wasnt and I forgot the command01:27
etfbmister-tea-lapto: How so?  I presume it's an option like splash and... all the rest that I don't recall.  But what syntax?01:28
byteme_can one have 8.10 with kde 3.5? where are the options, man??!!01:28
byteme_I want my freedom01:29
mister-tea-laptoI had the same problem with a different card and I just added the modprobe line to my grub01:29
jammen33byteme_: i dont think so, unless you compile from source01:29
etfbbyteme_: Looks like they don't want you using 3.5 any more.  I don't blame them -- supporting two versions is a pain.  But it's bad for those of us who don't like waiting for the basics to work....01:29
jammen33or those with old computers01:30
byteme_yeah, exactly. I love the look of 4.1, but IMO it just isnt ready (for me)01:30
etfbYou want irony?  The first YouTube I opened to check that the sound worked there had had its audio disabled because of copyright...01:31
etfbThe second one worked though.01:31
byteme_lol01:31
etfbSo, refresh my memory here.  Modprobe does... what?  Activates an inactive module in the kernel, right?01:33
etfbOr does it install it, like loading a DLL in Windows?01:33
Dr_willisprobes a module01:34
Dr_willismodule = kernel driver01:34
Dr_willismodprobe networkcarddriver.ko     -> loads that driver for whatever device01:34
etfbAh, Dr_willis -- good to see you.  My memory may be hazy, but it seems any time I've solved a problem in Linux, you've had a hand in it somewhere.  So tell me, if modprobe snd-hda-intel is the command to make my sound miraculously start working, what do I need to edit so I get that effect every time I reboot?01:35
Dr_willis!modules01:36
ubottuTo compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubottu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubottu blacklist01:36
Dr_willisits supposed to auto load.. hal is suppose to handle that i think.. or theres a modules file that autoloads stuff also01:36
Dr_willis# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.01:36
etfbDr_willis: That was it!  I remember seeing that file, but couldn't recall the name.  /etc/modules is too simple - it should be something like /etc/splinge-0.0.23.8492d/wibble.rc/03-flurbnax.fdi and be stored in a cryptic XML format...01:38
etfbRebooting it now... let's see if it makes pretty noises at me...01:40
Dr_willisthat would be windows.. only it would be in  c:/Windows/Winlibs/win32/system32/stuff/local/roaming/cssid-1234-213-5243-51-234-5245-234-234-65-32453425234-23432-501:40
etfbWell it works, although for some reason it started with the sound muted in kmix.01:43
khalidmiani cant seem to add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main to adept01:43
khalidmianpls help01:44
cjae_walbert: so I figured out why my ethernet wasn't working01:45
Dr_willisgive more details khalidmian ? You could try editing the /etc/apt/sources.list directly also01:45
etfbHow do I figure out what colour depth I'm using?  I know I'm on 1920x1080 cos it says so in System Settings | Display, but there's no number of colours, and it looks like I'm on something low.01:46
khalidmianDr_willis: i dont know how to add repositories via sudo im trying to update amarok01:46
Dr_willissudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:47
Dr_willisadd it to the end.01:47
cjae_walbert: stup*d Q^&#@^$*windows turns the ethernet card off when it shuts down and linux can't turn it back on you have to deselect that setting from device manager in windows01:47
khalidmianDr_willis: give a moment to see if it works01:47
cjae_then enable WOL in the bios01:47
cjae_for anyone having troubles with realtek ethernet cards and dual boot sernarios http://reynantem.blogspot.com/2008/12/ubuntu-810-ethernet-problem-solved.html01:52
walbertcjae_: ha.  good stuff01:52
Dr_willisrealtek makes a lot of cards. :)01:52
cjae_unreal01:52
walberti still haven't figured out my problem, as a matter of fact01:52
* walbert sighs01:52
walbertthough i can probably just go on without it01:52
sashayeHi01:53
etfbThe Display page in System Settings in Intrepid sucks fairly badly, doesn't it.  The way the information pane won't resize and doesn't fit the controls makes me wonder if the devs can even spell "test".01:55
sashayeok01:55
sashayeoh did you get the sound on ur laptop?01:56
etfbKDE4: Because Microsoft Vista proved that "fit and finish" is optional.01:56
* Dr_willis is reminded of many MS tools/dialog box;s that cant even be resized01:56
walbertetfb: amen!01:56
sashayeyou switched to vista01:56
etfbsashaye: Yes, I did.  Gods only know how.  modprobe snd-hda-intel did it, and putting that module name in /etc/modules made it permanent.01:57
etfbAnd no, I did not switch to Vista.  If I ever feel the urge to do that, I'll reach for a nailgun and put a hole in my head.01:57
shentinoanyone know of a bt client that can select peers based on distance or hop count?01:57
shentinobesides vuze01:57
etfb(Same effect, only cheaper)01:57
sashayeahh01:57
etfbDr_willis: Trouble is, I haven't seen a Windoze dialog that stupid in many years.  Admittedly (a) I don't use software that's that badly written by choice, and (b) I don't use Vista (see item a).01:58
faileasetfb: i actually tried it for a few weeks...01:58
faileasand having tried it... i was underwhelmed ;p01:59
* walbert once saw vista.... looked, but didn't touch01:59
Dr_willisetfb,  i see them all the time.. could be the  idiot programmers are using some old method.. then again.. Vista died on me last week.. so i dont plan on  reinstalling it.01:59
sashayevista is a pain in the neck01:59
sashayeonce I was using xp02:00
sashayeand switched to vista02:00
sashayefirst prob02:00
sashayeno sound02:00
sashayefixed it02:00
sashayenext prob02:00
sashayeit cant work with my printer02:00
sashayefixed it02:00
sashayenext prob02:00
sashayeit used up too much Ram02:00
sashayeits like a virus of some kind02:01
sashayelooks pretty02:01
sashayethen kaboom02:01
sashayeproblems02:01
khalidmianDr_willis: seems ver complicated to edit under terminal  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:02
Dr_willisa 10 sec edit is complex?02:02
Dr_willistime to learn to use  the editor i guess.. it would take me longer to find where in adept to add a source.. then it would to edit that file02:03
yotuxis there a weather widget for KDE402:03
khalidmianDr_willis: im a newbie i dont know how to paste under terminal02:03
khalidmianyoutux i havent found one02:03
sashayeI have a ques02:03
Dr_willisselect, middle click..02:03
yotuxctrl-shift-v02:03
Dr_willisor select text.. copy, use menus to paste02:03
sashayethere is no sound on my laptop02:03
sashayedoes anyone know how to fix it02:04
asobiusing keep, what if the backup destination is unmounted? does it skip and wait until the next interval?02:04
Dr_willisnote in nano - the help at the bottom ^ = control key02:04
mefisto__khalidmian: just do the edit, then ctrl-X to exit. it will ask if you want to save the changes you made, etc02:04
Dr_willisi really think nano shouldbe replaced with a slightly better editor.02:04
khalidmianhow to i go to the line where i want to place text02:04
Dr_willisarrow keys perhaps?02:04
Dr_willisthats the logical thing to try.02:05
squidyyotux: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/SMHI+weather+plasmoid?content=9323502:05
yotuxthankz squidy02:05
Dr_willisor instead of nano, use 'kdesudo EDITORYOULIKE /etc/apt/sources.list'02:05
Dr_willisI like the 'geany' editor02:05
sashayedoes anyone know how to put sound on a recently installed ubuntu 8.0402:05
Dr_willissashaye,  depending on the card.. You may need to upgrade your alsa02:06
Dr_williswhich can be a pain.02:06
sashayewhats an alsa02:06
Dr_willis!alsa02:07
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:07
Dr_willisALSA - the sound system linux systems normally use02:07
khalidmianDr_willis: E: Couldn't find package amarok-kde402:08
sashayewhere do I find this K menu ?02:08
Dr_williskhalidmian,  apt-get basics.. you must 'refresh' the package listings after altering the sources.list02:08
etfbDr_willis: That ubottu thing must be out of date - there's no Sound System in System Settings.02:08
Dr_willissudo apt-get update02:08
Dr_willissudo apt-get upgrade02:09
Dr_willisten try again02:09
etfbWhy doesn't dpkg-reconfigure work any more?  I want to change my screen resolution, and it worked last time I tried (in a previous version of Ubuntu)02:11
sashayeI paste what I got from the terminal02:12
sashayethe url is http://paste.ubuntu.com/109208/02:12
sashayehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/109210/02:14
Dr_willisX uses a 'minimal' xorg.conf now a days..   its supposed to auto-detect most things02:17
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mefisto__making it even more mysterious and worthy of the name X02:19
etfbDr_willis: Certainly doesn't autodetect my screen's colour depth worth a damn...02:20
khalidmianDr_willis: als doesnt auto detect if connected to another monitor or tv02:21
etfbAnd then I can't change it because KDE4 doesn' t think I should need to.  If I wanted to be treated like an idiot, I'd be using Gnome...02:21
Dr_willisFor my systems i normally have to have the ati or nvidia drivers installed for the proper res/stuff to get detected.. but i am using DVI connectors also on a LCD02:22
sashayethank you so much02:28
sashayeI am finally hearing sound on it02:28
sashayethank you02:28
sashaye:)02:28
Dr_williswowsers. :) the guide did help eh?02:28
sashayeetfb: is there sound on ur computer ?02:28
sashayeya02:28
Dr_willisNow you can Jamm to Kenny G. !02:29
sashaye:P02:29
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sashayeeftb are you there02:35
etfbsashaye: Yep, I'm just cleaning carpets.02:38
etfbYes, the sound is fixed now.02:38
sashayeoh Dr_willis which lunix os to do you think is best02:38
sashayecool02:38
etfbScreen colours are still too dopey though.02:38
etfbShould be much better colour depth, but looks like 16 bit.02:38
Dr_willisIm using Ubuntu on my main machines02:38
sashayeoh02:40
sashayewhat do you think of kubuntu ?02:41
Dr_willisit works.02:42
Dr_willisI use gnome or jwm , over kde4 most of the time02:42
sashayethanks for the help02:44
sashayegot to go02:44
sashayebye bye everyone02:44
moxiehello02:45
d3jakeif I have used ndisgtk which I found out about from this page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EasyWirelessDrivers And found the windows driver properly, do I need to restart before I can use the wireless card? or do I have to take some more steps?02:53
d3jakethat page doesn't help much02:53
dmainouhi, I just installed kubuntu in this machine anfd for some reason I can't see the synaptic package manager can anyone please help me to add it to the main menu02:54
Dr_willisinstall the synaptic manager tool?02:59
Dr_willisadept i the kde default tool02:59
Dr_willis'sudo apt-get install synaptic'02:59
dmainouHi no I haven't I just want to enable the multiverse.03:00
Dr_willisi always just edit /etc/apt/sources.list todo that03:00
Dr_willisadept can do that also i imagine03:01
Dr_willisor theres some check box's in the 'add/remove' interface03:01
dmainouThanks... I'm trying to install ther azalia drivers and it's giving me some headakes...03:01
Omikane_How do I create more profiles for FF? I deleted all of mine... :(03:02
Dr_willisfirefox --help  - i thinktheres a command line option to make one..03:03
Dr_willisbut i though it made them by default the frst time it ran03:03
dmainoufound it within adept... many thanks.03:03
d3jakeWireless and kubuntu don't like each other.... good thing there are wiki pages everywhere with help on them ^^03:04
jsubl2iwl3945 works well here03:05
d3jakemine is a.....bcm4318...03:06
jsubl2yeah i here those are a little more difficult03:06
d3jakeoh bother... right now I have a ~50-60ft ethernet cable up to this computer, I want to get the wireless working so I don't have to screw with it.03:07
Dr_willisbcm4318 - i thought ya just installed the 'b43-fwcutter' tool for thise03:07
Dr_willisbut that needs internet to get the firmware :)03:08
d3jakeDr_willis, do you have a refrence page somewhere that talks about that?03:09
Dr_willisall i did was 'sudo apt-get isntall  b43-fwcutter' and wasy it went :)03:10
Dr_willisthen i could use wireless.. so i then unplugged the wire. :)03:10
d3jakeoh, cool!03:10
d3jakethis is the second time you've helped me out ^^03:10
Dr_willisi was thinking the 'restricted-driver' tool also automated this03:11
Frederickfolks why if I set a high resolution my screen fits less than the total monitor area?03:11
Dr_willisCRT or LCD monitor Frederick ?03:12
FrederickLCD03:12
rikkimaruI'm attempting to upgrade from 1.4 amarok to 2.0.1.1 . When I add the repository to me sources.list and do an update and upgrade, amarok isn't listed.  Did i miss a step?03:12
FrederickDr_willis: are you there?03:15
Omikane_anyone know how I would I bring my logins and passwords over from a FF profile backup? I just lost my server logins!03:20
BentFrankI have two Kubuntu 8.10 systems.  Both nomimally have Adept 3.0 Beta 4 (Sheldon), KDE 4.1.3.  But both look different.  And one won't show the Search icon and won't find packages I need, like cups or sshd.  I don't understand why they are so different?03:41
Dr_willisi would guess you got different repos enabled?03:53
Dr_willisbut cups and sshd are in MAIN so should be in both03:53
Frederickfolks how do I change the group of an icon on kde menu on kubuntu?04:00
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Dr_willis!iso04:02
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.04:02
caustinHello04:06
BentFrankThanks Dr Willis, I thought so too about cups and sshd04:06
BentFrankBut when I installed NX it complained they weren't present04:06
caustinAnyone have any idea why apt-get kphotoalbum would want to remove kdeplasma-addons ?04:07
BentFrankI could hazard a guess04:08
caustinsure, that would be great..04:08
caustinsame with digiKam04:08
caustinwants to remove kdeplasma-addons04:09
BentFrankMaybe they want to be sure what they are rendering to you04:09
caustinHmm, not sure I understand what you mean..04:10
* fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go04:20
Makuseru!ace04:50
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression04:50
Dr_willis!info unp04:51
ubottuunp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15 (intrepid), package size 10 kB, installed size 76 kB04:51
arriespbye05:07
eosI'm a newbie. How do change theme for KDE ?05:13
stdinif only he'd have waited more than a minute I'd have given him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu05:14
stdinoh well05:15
EagleScreeneos what KDE version?05:17
stdinEagleScreen: they left05:17
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DaSkreechha ha05:47
DaSkreechhooray /.05:47
DaSkreech6 pages of interview with Linus The only thing they notice is that he mentions he is now using Gnome05:47
Dr_willisHmm..  so he cant try out other desktops eh? :)05:48
Dr_willisThe Downadup worm — also called Conflicker — has now infected an estimated 10 million PCs worldwide,05:50
DaSkreechWell I think it's mostly cause he insulted them so badly and publicly05:50
Dr_willisgnome is dumbed down. :)05:50
Dr_willishe was right05:50
Dr_willisheh05:50
DaSkreechwas?05:50
Dr_willisHe thinks KDE 4 is a 'disaster.' Although it's improved recently, he'll find many who agree with this prognosis, and KDE 4 can be painful to use."05:51
Dr_willisHe dident like gnome because it was 'dumbed down' it still is.05:51
Dr_willisi alsoo agree with his kde4 comments. :)05:52
DaSkreechYeah05:52
DaSkreechThough he has only used KDE 4.005:52
Dr_willis4.2 is an improvement.. but i think at this rate i will wait for kde 5.605:54
DaSkreechThat's probably 4-5 years in the future05:58
Dr_willisI will stick with JWM till then. :05:58
Dr_willis:)05:58
ohhaiHow do I make a folderview with my Desktop in KDE 4.2 RC1 full screen and have a background for it?05:58
caustinCan anyone here running 4.2rc1 simulate an apt-get install for kphotoalbum ?06:06
caustintell me if it wants to remove kdeplasma-addons ?06:06
Dr_willisThe following packages will be REMOVED:06:08
Dr_willis  kdeplasma-addons libkexiv2-706:08
Dr_willisI install that.. then try          sudo apt-get install kdeplasma-addons libkexiv2-706:10
Dr_willisThe following packages will be REMOVED:06:11
Dr_willis  kipi-plugins libkexiv2-306:11
caustinoh, so they will install after I do the remove with the kphotoalbum install?06:11
Dr_williswell kdeplasma-addons got reinstalled..06:11
Dr_willislooks like i got kphptoalbim and kdeplasma-addons both installed now06:11
SilentDishello :)  having a bit of problem with knetworkmanager and setting up a simple static IP for a LAN with no DHCP server.  I'm unsure what to fill in for a few of the fields.  I'd like to give this machine 192.168.0.10.06:12
caustinDr_willis: thanks, I'll try now.06:13
SilentDisIP addy: 192.168.0.10, netmask 255.255.255.0... what do i fill in for gateway dns addr. and dns search?  the interface refuses to come up without these filled in.06:14
Dr_willisi use the ip of my router for my DNS.. or the isp's dns ip  - if i know it06:14
Dr_willisgateway  = router ip also06:14
SilentDisDr_willis: no router.  ad hoc06:14
SilentDisDr_willis: just 2 machines with a simple switch between 'em.06:15
Dr_willisip of the machine  that is doing the internet shareing perhaps? or is this just a peer to peer lan?06:15
Dr_willisthen  it wont matter mich i imagine..06:15
Dr_willisip of other box or 127.0.0.1 perhaps06:15
Dr_willisor install a dhcp server on one machine.06:16
SilentDisDr_willis: i've never been able to get any sharing working right, that was my first thought as well.  network manager keeps screwing up all the settings :(06:16
SilentDisDr_willis: never been able to get a DHCP server setup right either, same problem.06:16
Dr_willisinsrtall dhcp server.. set both machines to use dhcp/auto and it should work   or at least it has for me in the past06:17
Dr_willisthis is a wireless network? or wired?06:17
SilentDiswired.06:17
SilentDis<machine> - <simple switch> - <machine>06:17
Dr_willisyou are usng proper hardware?   :)  looks like it.06:17
SilentDisDr_willis: back in... hmm... 7.04 or so... this all worked great.  now I have no end to trouble getting things setup right with network manager constantly stealing ports and such.  it's almost more hastle than it's worth to me, mainly because i use EVDO to get on the 'net (only thing available to me out here) from my cellphone, which, obviously, comes with me when i leave06:19
ohhaiHow do I make a folderview with my Desktop in KDE 4.2 RC1 full screen and have a background for it?06:20
SilentDisi'd love to get network sharing working, and a dhcp server running on this machine, i've just given up hope because i've had so many problems.06:20
Dr_williscould be network manaer trying to be smart.. but ive not tried your exact situation in ages06:21
Dr_willisI always got a little router handy06:21
Dr_willisso is one machine going to the internet some how?06:21
SilentDisif i could find a router with a usb port that could handle this kinda thing, i'd switch to it in a heartbeat.  i'm seriously thinking of bringing in a low powered computer to the mix and connecting the cellphone to that and using it like a 'router' with ubutnu server.06:22
Dr_willisusb port? phone? what are ya trying to do? im missing somthing hehe...06:22
SilentDislol understandable.  my internet connection is provided via EVDO.  I connect a USB cable to my cellphone, HAL assigns it ttyACM0, network manager actually recognizes it as an EVDO capable device, and Just Works (tm).06:23
Dr_willisSo you are trying to get the 2nd pc going thrugh the first one?06:24
Dr_willisto get to the internetz?06:24
SilentDisthat would be ideal, yes, but since my cellphone comes with me, the settings keep screwing up, and i can never get stuff to 'stick'.06:24
Dr_williscell -> pc1 --> pc206:25
SilentDisbingo06:25
Dr_willispc1 would be  the gateway and dns server for the 2nd one.06:25
Dr_willis!ics06:25
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php06:25
Dr_willisthat url may have some info also06:25
SilentDisthat's the idea, but as i said, gotta bring down the 'net connection constantly, and have it come back up worry-free.  the dhcp servers i've tried never work right.06:25
knichow do i request a reset of my network adapters dhcp (similar to pump) on cmdline for kubuntu?06:26
SilentDisDr_willis: reading now, i'll give it another go, i assume i just keep missing something in the configs.06:27
BentFrankSilentDis:  Network Manager has a bug that resets youback to DHCP.  If you want static IP follow this...http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html06:39
SilentDisBentFrank: thanks for that :D06:40
SilentDisBentFrank: ah crap.  not good, bug is in network manager that keeps resetting my stuff.  and network manager is what i use to setup the evdo connection.  aargh.06:41
BentFrankyeah, unf'ly part of the fix is to remove network manager06:43
Dr_willisyea - network manager has cause issues over the years... :)06:43
ohhaiHow do I upgrade OpenOffice.org to the 3rd version?06:44
SilentDisi guess i'll need to grab kppp before i go any further on any of this then.06:44
SilentDiswith network manager out of the picture, though, i should be able to get this setup on my own.  that's been the bane of my existance this whole time >.<06:46
DaSkreechohhai: Get it from a PPA or from openoffice directly06:47
ohhaiDaSkreech: How can I add ppa to my repositories?06:48
DaSkreechohhai: Never added a third part repo before?06:48
ohhaiSorry, figured.06:50
ohhaiDaSkreech: Danks, worked.06:51
DaSkreechohhai: Greeat06:51
carlossnchezhello, can somebody help me? me podrían ayudar por favor?07:03
carlossnchezhello, can somebody help me? me podrían ayudar por favor?07:06
Dr_willis'please state the nature of the linux emergacy'07:08
BattleStarJesus I'm running Kubuntu with the Nvidia driver (version 177.82), I have using Compiz-Fusion and Emerald.  When I open video media with any media player it plays, but when I try to enable full-screen or try to play the next video in a playlist, the player shuts down. What is causing this to happen and how do I resolve it?07:11
micha__ok i am confused wasn't there a on the advanced tab in system settings a restricted driver icon and how do i get it if i lost it07:11
Dr_willisI found it best to not use compiz with kde 4.x07:13
Dr_willisRun the player from a terminal. look for error messages  BattleStarJesus   - look for clues there?07:13
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seektherapyI have a soundcard problem07:14
seektherapycan someone help me07:14
Dr_willisSound can be a pain to trouble shoot.07:14
micha__Dr_willis: do you know how to get the restricted driver icon07:14
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Dr_willismicha__,   just run 'sudo jockey-kde' to get to the Restricted-program  interface. is all i do07:15
micha__i am on hardy thanks Dr_willis07:15
seektherapyI see the icon on the top right but when i click on it i get the error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"07:15
Dr_willisseektherapy,  try some other mixers perhaps? Ive heard of that error befor - but not sure why it does that.07:15
Dr_willisisent gstreamer for gnome?07:16
seektherapydoesnt work07:16
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Dr_willis'dosent work' is not very helpfull.. what did you just try to do?07:17
BattleStarJesus> Dr_willis: do you know what [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 141.19 failed with error code 11: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)07:18
BattleStarJesusmeans07:18
Dr_willisuse a different  'video out' option for the player07:20
Dr_willisusing 'xv' here on my system07:20
BattleStarJesusI will try, I'm going to use vlc what do you suggest?07:21
BattleStarJesusok07:21
Dr_willisI use vlc a lot.. and mplayer at times07:21
micha__i am still on hardy (because i don't like the kde4 at the moment) apt-get upgrade upgrades but keeps 10 packages back should i do a dist-upgrade or would that install kde4?07:24
BattleStarJesusDr_willis: hey that worked very well, awsome work Dr,07:25
micha__i am still on hardy (because i don't like the kde4 at the moment) apt-get upgrade upgrades but keeps 10 packages back should i do a dist-upgrade or would that install kde4?07:29
micha__somebody know the answer?07:30
Dr_willissee what dist-upgrade says it will upgrade07:31
derjenshello everyone07:38
derjensi am using kontact with 3 mail receiving accounts (all of them type disc. imap)07:39
derjenswhen i started kontact yesterday out of the sudden 2 of 3 were gone07:39
derjensi did not delete them!07:39
derjensthe smtp accounts are still there07:40
derjenscan you give me any information how to recover my mail accounts?07:40
BentFranktest07:46
Dr_willis!test07:52
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.07:52
sachithhai all07:53
sachithcan anylp me one help me with an issue?07:53
sachithim using kubuntu 8.10 and my bluetooth is not working07:54
caustinIs there any decent native gnutella clients for KDE?07:56
stdin!p2p07:56
ubottuPeer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information07:56
stdin!Gnutella07:56
ubottuGnutella clients: GTK-Gnutella (GTK, stand-alone), gifTui, giFToxic (GTK, based on giFT), Apollon (KDE, based on giFT), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey), !Limewire, !Frostwire (Java, not in the !repositories) - See also !P2P07:56
ohhaiFrom what repo can I get the Thunderbird 3.0b2 for 8.10?07:57
stdinohhai: you won't get a software beta release in a stable release07:58
ohhaistdin: I want a beta release, I just need to know a repository where I can fetch it from.07:58
stdinohhai: you'll have to download and install it manually08:01
ohhaistdin: Thanks, then I'll look for a .deb package.08:01
ohhaiHow do I switch off the thread view in the new KMail?08:19
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huntok. i want to watch youtube. but when i typy in youtube.com than it goes to /czyoutube.com and i get a blank page. i think this must be something to do with the settings on my pc.. but i dont know and i dont know how to change it.. have somebody an idea????08:47
nahyhey guys. i want to know how can i set my gtalk account with kopete?08:47
ohhaiPlease, tell me - how can I disable date categories (e.g. Today, Thursday, Last Week) and thread view for KMail in KDE4? How can I make it to just display the good old list, like it is in Thunderbird?08:47
nahyroozbehonline: salam. hale shoma?08:49
nahyi want to know how can i set my gtalk account with kopete?08:50
senorpedrohunt: check /etc/hosts08:53
ubunturosnahy: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=57557 - should help you in doing that08:54
nahythx08:54
Nataouzehello09:00
StR|Sangrealhello09:00
StR|Sangrealas i installed kubuntu on defaults, my graphics started flittering and the performance was really bad; i was offered to install a proprietary driver, the performance did improve dramatically; however, any attempt to play video crashes vlc and other players play it badly(i mean 60% of frames are black, it flickers on the top of the desktop and plasma)09:00
StR|Sangreal (i have centrino2, thus i installed amd64 distro, my videocard is ati radeon mobility x1450) please could sb advise me how to set up my graphics?09:00
Dr_willisuse the restricted-drivers/hardware-drivers tool to enable the fglrx drivers perhaps StR|Sangreal09:05
Dr_willisor run 'jockey-kde'09:06
Dr_willis!find jockey09:06
ubottuFound: jockey-common, jockey-gtk, jockey-kde09:06
Dr_willis(same tool different names)09:06
nahyDr_willis: Hi. remember me? i faced a bad bug in my recent kubuntu and going to reinstall a fresh one09:07
StR|Sangrealdr_willis, i have them enabled and the performance isnt still fine09:08
NataouzeSince last update of solid on kde4.2, I have this error message when kde is loading: "Error creating  Bluetooth Server" "The name org.openobex was not provided by any .service files"09:08
Dr_willisStR|Sangreal,  I find kde4 to be sluggish. so cant really give much more suggestions...09:08
nahyi have to install hardy. is it necessary to upgrade to kde4?09:08
Dr_willisnahy,  i think it may be.. there was some unofficial kde 3.5 repos. but ive not heard much about them lately09:09
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StR|Sangreali am gonna install gnome... d you think it will solve my problem?09:09
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Dr_williswhat problem? desktop being slow?  depends.09:10
Dr_willisinstall jwm if you want a speedy window manager. :) but its uber-minimal09:10
Dr_willisIm using gnome as my main desktop these days.. or JWM+Rox-filer09:10
StR|Sangrealthe speed of the environment is ok09:11
StR|Sangrealthe main trouble is in playing video09:11
todzhello I'm wanting to try KDE 4.1 RC1 but I keep getting an error when trying to install the kdebase-workspace-data package, I was wondering if someone could help me with it?09:11
todz*KDE 4.209:11
Dr_willistry other videoplayers perhaps09:11
Nataouzesomebody already had this problem with blouetooth ?09:11
Nataouzekbluetooth409:11
Dr_willisNataouze,  ive heard that bluetooth in kde4 has issues.. but ive never tried it09:12
NataouzeDr_willis: do you have an idea how to disable it from the boot time ?09:13
Dr_williskbluetooth4 wouldbe gettting started by kde.. not at boot.. as far as i know09:14
Dr_willischeck the kde4 sessions/autorunn apps perhaps?09:14
Nataouzeyes at kde boot :)09:14
Dr_willis!autostart09:14
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. In KDE 3.X the package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete KDE 3.X guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html09:14
Dr_willis'kde starts up' the PC 'boots up' :)09:14
tictricanyone else experiencing problems accessing cdrom on intrepid?09:15
StR|Sangrealdr_willis, vlc crashed completely after installing the catalyst driver; mplayer and kaffeine just flicker on the top of kde09:15
Dr_willisStR|Sangreal,  try disableng all th faccy kde eye candy/effects/compositing stuff perhaps09:15
Dr_willisI dont have a single ati system any more09:15
Nataouzeyes you're right sry ;) anyway there's just nothing in autostart concerning bluetooth, the thing is kbluetooth is part of solid09:16
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MinusSevenis PulseAudio better than ALSA, and if so, how do I make it so PulseAudio is used?09:19
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Dr_willisPulse Audio USES alsa09:21
Dr_willis!pulse09:21
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions09:21
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Dr_willissoundcard --> alsa .-->pulseaudio09:21
MinusSeventhanks09:21
Dr_willisand given the # of people ive seen that want to remove Pulseaudio09:22
Dr_willisyou might NOT want to use it.09:22
pankovskkk09:23
pankovshello09:23
kenny__Any ideas on how to get koffice2 on 4,2 1st time in any IRC sorry if I'm breaching any protocol09:23
MinusSevenits just that when I installed KDE 4.2, sound only worked with one program at a time09:23
Guest65284anybody know how to turn 32bit rpms into 64bitbit rpms09:24
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truetothegamethapleasehelp09:24
ubunturostruetothegametha: !ask09:25
ubunturos!ask | truetothegametha09:25
ubottutruetothegametha: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:25
truetothegamethak09:25
truetothegamethathnx09:25
truetothegamethajust did on own09:26
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pankovsWhat is better to use ubuntu or Kubuntu09:26
truetothegameits more complex09:26
truetothegamealot more possibilitys09:26
truetothegamemispell09:27
Dr_willisYou can easually install kde on ubuntu, and gnome on kubuntu09:27
Dr_willisso installboth and try them both out09:27
truetothegameif you develop you wouldnt use ubuntu09:27
Dr_willistehres too many gnome or kde apps i like.. to limit myself to one or the other09:27
pankovsI installed xfce on Kubuntu09:27
Dr_willistheres a lot of developers who dont use KDE> :) depends on what they are developing09:28
Dr_willisYOu can install xfce also..  have 3 to play withj09:28
truetothegameor how you learned09:28
pankovsXfce like a gnome09:28
pankovsAnd best of all is IceWM!09:29
truetothegamewhy09:29
Dr_willisi like jwm+rox-filer09:30
Dr_willisintall allof them and try them all out09:30
pankovsit doesn not tike many system resources and memory09:30
truetothegamekkkk09:30
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truetothegamehow to install 32bit rpms on 64bit linux09:31
Dr_willisyou doule have to set up some 32bit chroot I belive09:32
pankovsHow I know 32 bit application need 32 bit libs09:32
truetothegametime09:33
Dr_willis!32bit09:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 32bit09:33
Dr_willisi wouldent suggest mesing with rpms at all09:33
Dr_willisthe 32bit stuff just adds more to the problem09:34
stdinyou don't need a chroot to run 32bit apps in 64bit linux09:35
pankovsI have 64 AMD processor but I installed i386 ubuntu and have no problems09:35
stdin!amd6409:36
ubottuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/3jkole and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.09:36
truetothegamei have amd turion!09:36
truetothegameproblem is cpufreq not in kpowersave or default app09:36
Dr_willisI use 64bit os on my  64bit Machine. :) and have very few problems09:36
pankovsDo anybody use VirtualBox09:37
pankovs&09:37
pankovs?09:37
hacker如何升级到kde 4.1.409:39
stdin!cn09:40
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:40
Dr_willisLots of us use Virtualbox09:41
Dr_willis!virtualbox09:42
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox09:42
pankovsCan I run 3d games for windows on vbox (host ubuntu, guest winxp)09:43
senorpedropankovs: better not09:44
pankovswhy09:44
senorpedroafaik the 3d stuff in vbox is very slow09:44
pankovsIn last version there is support 3d in vbox09:44
senorpedroeven if you have a very fast graphic card09:44
senorpedrowell you can try09:44
pankovsGF 9600 GT my videocard09:44
senorpedrobut i dont think it will be fast, afaik vmware does better graphic handling09:45
pankovsi must go09:45
pankovsgood by09:46
Dr_willis3d stuff in either one - i imagine will be less then great. :)09:46
truetothegamenope09:47
Dr_willisthats sort of a 'soon to be big feature' if they ever get it going..09:47
truetothegamecolinux better than vmware09:47
Dr_willisiimagien it depends on wha tyou want to do with it all09:49
truetothegametrue09:49
truetothegamefaster on regular usages why not graphics09:50
truetothegamei havnt tested though so what would i know about it besides nothin09:50
Dr_willisI ten to just use vbox to test live cd's09:52
micha__my touchpad is a bit speedy how can i get that a bit more unsensetive?09:56
ohhaiHow do I make .avi videos work in Kubuntu Interpid Ibex?09:56
truetothegamevlc09:56
micha__.avi could be xvid divx mpeg4 but that doesn\t matter they should all work ohhai09:57
Dr_willisa lot will depend on the specific CODEC of the avi file09:57
Dr_willisavi could be one of several Dozen codecs :) used in it09:57
truetothegamevlc dnt need extras09:57
Dr_willisif not more09:57
ohhaiI installed w32codecs and SMPlayer/MPlayer, and I get only the sound.09:57
ohhaiThe same with VLC.09:57
Dr_willisvlc does incluse most.09:57
ohhaiSound, no video.09:57
truetothegamefuck mplayer vlc09:57
Dr_willissounds like its a weird video codec then09:57
truetothegameworked on mine09:58
truetothegameeverythang09:58
ohhaiIt works all right under Win.09:58
jussi01!ohmy | truetothegame09:58
ubottutruetothegame: Please watch your language, attitude, and topic to help keep this channel friendly and helpful. Remember, there are kids here!09:58
Dr_willistruetothegame,  and that proves very little in this case.09:58
micha__can you run a file against the .avi and tell us what avi it is ohhai09:58
Dr_willisohhai,  run the player from a terminal. and look for error messages/info about the video file also09:58
truetothegamenot in court in life09:58
truetothegamenot doin frm term in that case09:58
micha__my touchpad is a bit speedy how can i get that a bit more unsensetive?09:58
ohhaiOh gee.. Desktop effects caused it.09:59
Dr_willisSome videos can use very out there codecs in some cases.09:59
Dr_willisohhai,  :) that can cause issues also09:59
ohhaiIs there any way to make them compatible? =)09:59
micha__touchpad someone a touchpad?09:59
stdinuse the xv driver09:59
stdinit seems to work fine with compositing enabled for me10:00
micha__xv stdin10:00
truetothegamewhere you get that at10:00
stdinyeah, xv :p10:00
stdinthere should be an option in whatever media player you're using10:00
ohhaixv driver for video player or xv driver for the system?10:01
blackbirdhi10:01
truetothegameboth10:01
truetothegamehi10:01
blackbirdplz i'm newbie10:01
blackbirdi have some problems10:01
blackbirdi use kubuntu 8.1010:02
truetothegamejust say the problems dnt talk down on ones self10:02
stdinohhai: it's a video driver, not a graphics driver. it's only used by the media player10:02
blackbirdfirst how to install a tar.gz after unzipping ?10:03
ohhaistdin: Crashes VLC. =(10:03
ohhaiXVideo driver that is.10:03
stdinworks in mplayer10:04
truetothegamewhat ohhai mean10:04
Dr_willisblackbird,  what are you trying to install exactly?10:05
truetothegamevlc easier just install then it run10:05
stdineasier than "mplayer filename.avi" ?10:05
truetothegameyep10:05
stdinis is psychic?10:05
Dr_willisPsycotic!10:05
truetothegameinstall vlc and avi just plays no extra needed10:05
Dr_willisapt-get install kde-esp10:05
blackbirdsecond i found a driver for my low speed modem in rpm i try to use alien to convert it to .deb but this message appears : "Error executing "LANG=C rpm -qp --queryformat %{NAME} sm56.rpm":  at /usr/locashare/perl/5.10.0/Alien/Package.pm line 482."10:06
Tinasonif its for kubuntu, it would ne psykic10:06
Dr_willisthere are AVI's that vlc cant play. :)  but those tend to be avi's that people shouldent be watching anyway10:06
stdintruetothegame: as you've been told, avi is a container, not a codec. saying "I can play avi" means nothing10:06
blackbirdi try to install firefox10:06
ohhaistdin: X11 - Insufficient resources for operation, many times --- the errors I get when trying to play my .avi file. Only sound comes out.10:06
Dr_willisblackbird,  firefox is in the repositories.. 'sudo apt-get install firefox' will install it.10:07
truetothegameim a newb after years10:07
stdinohhai: ouch10:07
Dr_willisblackbird,  as for drivers.. those can be a bit more of a proboem10:07
stdinohhai: is "Accelerated video output" checked?10:07
ohhaistdin: Yep.10:08
stdinohhai: try without it10:08
ohhaistdin: Errors come from mplayer, btw.10:08
stdinoh, ok10:08
ohhaiAs for VLC, checked both with and without accelerated output. =(10:08
blackbirdi want to convert .rpm to .deb using alien10:09
stdinohhai: same with xv?10:09
stdinblackbird: why?10:09
ohhaistdin: Yep. It works though when desktop effects are disabled. =(10:10
blackbirdbecause kubuntu dont use rpm ! right ?10:10
ohhaiblackbird: Everything you need can be found in .deb as well.10:10
stdinblackbird: I mean, why do you need to convert an rpm? what are you trying to install?10:10
ohhaiblackbird: Converting is probably the worst choice. In the extreme case, compiling would be better. =)10:11
ohhaiWorst as in not very error-prone.10:11
blackbirdmodem driver stdin10:11
ohhaiOh, I take my words back. =)10:11
ohhaiThose are hard to find.10:11
stdin!info sl-modem10:11
ubottuPackage sl-modem does not exist in intrepid10:11
stdingmm10:11
blackbirdohhai> how can i compile10:12
blackbird?10:12
stdin!modem10:12
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto10:12
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ohhaiblackbird: If you have the source code for your driver, which might be next to impossible to discover.10:12
stdinblackbird: try that link10:12
blackbirdyes dial up10:12
stdinohhai: what graphics card/driver do you have? (is it nvidia/ati?)10:13
blackbirdi see the link thank u10:13
ohhaistdin: ATI x1600 mobility, probably radeonhd.10:14
stdinwith the binary driver?10:14
stdinfglrx10:14
micha__touchpad someone a touchpad?10:15
blackbirdmy modem is not detected that's why i try to install a driver10:16
blackbirdi used scanmodem10:16
blackbirdit's a motorola sm5610:17
truetothegamehow to make dynamic and performence work again in kgp10:17
micha__!touchpad10:17
ubottuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad10:17
micha__thank you ubottu10:17
truetothegameor kpowersave10:18
peppuzzinociao10:18
truetothegametake the driver and wrap it10:18
blackbirdtruetothegame> excuse what's "wrap it" ?10:20
truetothegametheres a program where you can take windows drivers and wrap them into linux10:20
blackbirdwhich one ?10:21
truetothegamehold please its been a while10:22
truetothegameim looking up right now10:22
stdinthat only works with wifi drivers10:22
truetothegamendiswrapper10:22
micha__grrrrrrrrrrr After installation, ksynaptics can be found in the KDE Control Center. i can't even install it!!10:22
truetothegamewell ok10:22
truetothegameidk10:22
stdinmicha__: download the .deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ksynaptics and install that10:23
micha__E: Package ksynaptics has no installation candidate10:23
stdinmicha__: it works on intrepid just fine10:23
stdinand hardy for that matter10:23
micha__thanks stdin i have hardy10:23
stdinworks in both10:24
micha__why doesn't it install via apt-get ? stdin10:24
stdinbecause it's not in the repositories after gutsy10:24
micha__ah ok10:25
Dr_willisksynaptics is outdated i belive10:25
Dr_willisthers some other tools that replaces it. but i dont rember what its called.10:25
Dr_willis!find synaptics10:25
ubottuFound: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, gsynaptics-mcs-plugin, libsynaptics-dev, libsynaptics010:25
Dr_willisgsynaptics - is still there? :) thats weird10:25
blackbirdthanks all10:29
blackbirdbye10:29
afd_hi! I'm using ubuntu intrepid + kde 4.2 latest beta. How can I add a new desktop activity? I don't get the global cachew to zoom out...10:30
afd_I like the idea of having different plasma desktop profiles and I understand that the activities would enable that10:30
truetothegameph how to get dynamic/performence to work after crash in kgp/kpowersave10:31
truetothegamecoll afd_10:31
truetothegamecool10:31
truetothegamesorry drunk10:32
StR|Sangrealplease, how can i add sth to my panel that changes keyboard layouts?10:32
truetothegamewhat sth10:32
OxDeadC0dewhat do you die hards here think of this ;)? http://imagebin.ca/view/yKJXyCKn.html (still a work in progres...)10:32
Tinasoni just installed google earth. all the fonts as squished together. i dont see any solution to this issue in the forums. has anyone else experienced this?10:34
Tinason...and better yet, resolved it10:34
OxDeadC0delast time I installed it it worked perfectly :/10:34
truetothegameoxdeadcode this is my aim i would love to test and help staggastatistics10:36
Dr_willisi belvie theres some  font/desktop effects issues that affect some apps10:36
afd_how can I enable desktop activities in kde 4.2?10:37
Tinasonhmmm10:37
Dr_willisactivities?10:37
truetothegamewym10:37
OxDeadC0detruetothegame huh? did you reboot to get governors to work again?10:38
truetothegameno10:38
afd_Dr_willis: different plasma desktop profiles, they're called desktop activities by dek10:38
afd_s/dek/kde10:38
OxDeadC0detruetothegame powersave/dynamic/performance need kernel modules to work , which are loaded at boot, possible the kernel modules crashed10:38
ohhaiHow do I find out which video driver am I running?10:38
truetothegamebrb10:38
k1what's the best way to get koffice2 on kde 4.2?10:39
OxDeadC0deanyone? comments on the image? ideas on better text's for it (they ALL need replaced)? anything? :P10:39
OxDeadC0deafd_ click the cashew, zoom out, the controls appear you can add new ones from existing activities (there should always be 1 existing activity at least)10:41
OxDeadC0decashew on the desktop not on the panel10:41
afd_OxDeadC0de: I have a panel at the top, I don't get a cachew on the desktop10:42
OxDeadC0deafd_ where'd it go? under the panel? You can move the cashew10:42
afd_OxDeadC0de: I've set the panel on the left edge temporarily.... I didn't knew you could move the cachew10:43
afd_trying now10:43
afd_I've added a new activity, btw10:43
OxDeadC0dejust click/drag the cashew, nothin special ;)10:43
afd_yes, just did that10:43
OxDeadC0deand grats btw :P10:43
afd_cool :)10:43
afd_eh, thanks10:43
OxDeadC0deso can I get your opinion now?:Phttp://imagebin.ca/view/yKJXyCKn.html10:44
OxDeadC0defraking space bar10:44
afd_OxDeadC0de: thanks, I think I'm set :)10:44
Dr_willishttp://imagebin.ca/view/yKJXyCKn.html10:45
OxDeadC0dety :P10:45
OxDeadC0deit all works too I just used it to check my webmail :P10:46
micha__hmm i might be unsensetiv but my touchpad isn't ... there seams to be no different between high and low ... all the same??10:47
afd_micha__: sometimes firmware updates help10:49
afd_I think10:49
WishingMasterfor sure they do help10:49
WishingMasterwhich system are you using?10:50
WishingMasterbrand?10:50
WishingMaster?10:51
WishingMaster?10:52
WishingMaster?10:53
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truetothegamehello10:53
micha__afd_: installed ksynaptics ... works fine disables the touchpad while typing which is very helpful since most of the newer notebooks have the touchpad on the same level so if you actully type with 10 fingers you will open serveral windows and jump everywhere :) But it is still too fast ... might have to restart X ...10:53
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truetothegamegot modes back but not all options10:54
* micha__ hates the new touchpads and the stupid plastic screens that act like a mirrow. 10:55
truetothegamei like fast10:55
micha__lol10:55
OxDeadC0detruetothegame I just use the ruby cpufreq applet for that when i can.. (I can't get it to work in rc1.)10:55
truetothegamehold please10:56
afd_OxDeadC0de: the battery monitor has an option to change power profiles10:56
afd_:)10:56
OxDeadC0deI will update that for 4.2 when it's released, if I need to.. hopefully they'll make things backward compatible.10:56
OxDeadC0deyeah but the cpufreq applet shows you live what speed you're running in the panel, and lets you select any available userspace speed cleanly and quickly10:57
truetothegamewhat rc110:57
OxDeadC0dealong with any governor available to the system10:57
afd_what's a governor10:57
afd_?10:57
micha__there is a debain 4.2 live cd which is sweet OxDeadC0de10:57
truetothegamewish i had it10:57
OxDeadC0depowersave, ondemand, performance, userspace (user set frequency)10:57
Dr_willisGovernor runs the state. :)10:57
etfbI'm using Kubuntu 8.10, and I want to know what my colour-depth is.  That is, what is the "colour resolution" of my current display?  15 bit, 16, 24, 32?  How do I tell?10:58
afd_aha10:58
* fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go10:58
Dr_willisI think 'xvidtune' can tell you etfb  or the 'xrandr' command10:58
micha__normal is 24 etfb10:58
OxDeadC0dehaha it took me a bit to get that dr_willis10:58
etfbNo luck with xrandr...10:58
Dr_willisthose show res..not the depth. :)10:59
OxDeadC0declassic!10:59
etfb... or xvidtune.10:59
etfbmicha__: I'm pretty sure it's display 16 bit colour, which looks pretty crap.10:59
OxDeadC0demicha_ well it can't be 4.2 as it's still not completely released yet.. it could be the beta or rc though :P10:59
afd_is it possible to use dashboard widgets in plasma? I've tried 2 widgets already downloaded from apple.com and none of them can be selected when adding a new widget from file11:00
afd_should I unzip them?11:00
Dr_willisadf_ i dident think thse were useable on kde4's stuff11:00
OxDeadC0deafd_ might not work, but i bet it's a file extension issue?11:01
afd_http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/10/feature-completing-mac-os-dashboard.html11:01
Dr_willisof course i do recaall that being a feature to be worked on.. but never seen it used yet11:01
OxDeadC0deafd_ or figure out the right plasmapkg -i command to install the zipfile11:01
etfbafd_: I can't imagine they would be.  OSX != Linux, and dashboard stuff assumes some proprietary Safari features.11:01
Dr_williskde4 is very much a work in progress. :)11:01
micha__OxDeadC0de: http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=e9cad4bb690e047a81d165176fa7063d54a55313 yes it is but it is nice11:01
afd_etfb: so then why implement support for dashboard widgets?11:02
afd_if none of them are going to work?11:02
Dr_willis'Right now Plasma implements exactly zero of them in the Dashboard ScriptEngine, causing several widgets to fail when loaded.'11:02
OxDeadC0demicha_ very cool11:02
etfbafd_: You got me there.  Did they?  I'm no expert.11:02
Dr_willisadf_ from what i am reading.. None work :)11:02
afd_etfb: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/10/feature-completing-mac-os-dashboard.html11:02
etfbIn KDE 3 there was a program that let me see all sorts of settings and hardware info.  Any idea what it was called?  Something info?11:03
micha__not so big works fine on my notebook and you can have a look at how things are developing ... OxDeadC0de11:03
Dr_willisafd_,  from wha ti am readins at that site.. only the most basic of osx widgets might work.11:03
micha__i am still using kde3 because kde4 is not as customizable as i like it to be ... but with the relase of 4.2 i might go for it :)11:04
OxDeadC0demicha_ I use nightly-neon's nightly svn build for that, or 4.2rc1 from launchpad (also part of the neon project)11:05
micha__well i might not have much choice because it will get into debian/sid and that would mean i get it if i like it or not :)11:05
deamoonhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/109312/11:06
deamoonhelp me with this plz11:06
OxDeadC0demicha_ it'd probably be fairly trivial to compile kde3 for it with enough space on the new debian11:06
Dr_willisdeamoon,  summarize please? :)11:06
deamooni migrate to ubuntu from kubuntu11:06
deamoonand cant update11:07
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micha__looks like the public key for on of your sourceslist entry is missing deamoon11:09
deamoonyes11:09
deamoondhow can i add it11:09
OxDeadC0dewell that sucks, no comments at all, not even a "that sucks" or "nifty" or anything :(11:09
gmasuccihello to everyone...I just want to report that apt-get install kdebase-workspace-dev leads to broken dependencies11:09
gmasuccitested yesterday evening :)11:09
OxDeadC0dehmm I have it installed gmasucci11:10
ulysses__i have installed kdebase-workspace-dev, but i haven't any problem11:10
gmasuccimmm11:10
micha__is that the complete error deamoon11:12
micha__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046158 that might help deamoon11:12
gmasucciappearently there is a conflicting file in soprano provided by two different packages11:13
gmasuccior at least it was there yesterday evening11:14
gmasuccii'm trying this again from a fresh jaunty installation..will report in a minute11:15
gmasucciwell the problem is still there11:15
gmasucciErrors were encountered while processing:11:15
gmasucci /var/cache/apt/archives/libsoprano-dev_2.1.67+dfsg.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb11:15
gmasucciE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:15
gmasuccihere's the output of apt-get install -f11:16
gmasuccidpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsoprano-dev_2.1.67+dfsg.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):11:16
gmasucci trying to overwrite `/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.soprano.Model.xml', which is also in package soprano-daemon11:16
gmasucciso the problem seems to be a conflict between soprano-daemon and libsoprano-dev11:17
johannes_hi, i have ot problems with my graphic driver, intel gma x3100, flickering screen...i cannpt get it right.any body an idea?11:18
johannes_thanks11:18
katharinakhalili11:18
katharinahallo11:18
gmasuccijohannes...intel cards are under major changes...so instabilities are somehow to be expected right now...btw jaunty is on kernel 2.6.28 and intel developers raccomend using some patches agains it..also are you using default configuration (EXA acceleration) or UXA?11:21
ulysses__gmasucci,  I try to install kde 4.2 rc1 on my kubuntu 8.10, it also have problems, i run dpkg-reconfigure -a, it's running for 30 minutes, i hope it will help11:21
Frederickfolks some apps give me now sound what is that?11:26
FrederickI mean I have sound in gaim but not in lastfm for example11:26
ohhaiI have weird interface bugs when watching videos using front-end for mplayer, such as SMPlayer or in VLC. I'm running KDE4.2 on Kubuntu 8.10, with fglrx driver for my Radeon x1600 mobility card. Any way to fix it?11:27
gmasucciulysses, in my case the problem is clear.  The file org.soprano.Model.xml is contained both in soprano-daemon and libsoprano-dev and the packaege manager goes crazy about it...so the prob is in these 2 packages. But I'm on jaunty and I don't know if the intrepid backport is affected by the same problem :)11:33
StR|Sangrealhi11:39
Dr_willisMoo11:41
StR|Sangrealplease, i need help... i have installed packages gnome and ubuntu-desktop, and although i have stated during the installation process that kde should be default, i boot in gnome, i stop recognizing my sound driver and sth with swich user freezes at gnome boot11:42
Dr_willisHmm...11:46
Dr_willisyou mean you stated that  'kdm' should be the default login manager?     You would still have to select kde or gnome from the KDM sessions menu.11:46
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a931bwHi all11:58
a931bwHow to update to KDE 4?11:58
* Dr_willis looks at the URL in the topic11:59
Dr_willis:)11:59
Dr_willisKDE 4.2 RC 1: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc111:59
Dr_willisIf you mean to INSTALL kde4 on Ubuntu...  that will also do it.12:00
Dr_willisI think.12:00
RurouniJonesanother soul about to be subject to the pits of hell :p12:01
Dr_willisand we gladly welcom them!12:01
morgan_salve12:01
morgan_nessuno in linea?12:01
* RurouniJones looks on form 3.5 heaven12:01
Dr_willis'I for one welcome our new Plasmid overlords!'12:01
Dr_willis:)12:02
RurouniJones!it | morgan_12:02
ubottumorgan_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)12:02
* RurouniJones assume Italian and not Spanish12:02
morgan_cne vuol dire scusa?12:03
Dr_willis'No Hoblo'12:03
Dr_willisI dont know to say 'i dont speak italian' :)12:03
RurouniJonesNo hable is spanish I think12:03
Dr_willisIknow thats spanish. :) I dated spanish girl.. :P12:03
* Dr_willis can get his face slapped in 8 language!12:04
Dr_willis:P12:04
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo12:09
morgan_ma il canale in italiano non esiste?12:10
ActionParsnip1quiet today, linux must be working :)12:10
Dr_willisits early12:11
Dr_willisbeen playing way to much '20 questions' to get the actual 'question' from too many people in varioys linux channel this week. :)12:12
shadeslayerno its not12:12
shadeslayerits about 6pm here12:12
Dr_willisIts alwyas early somewhere. :)12:12
shadeslayer:D12:12
Dr_willisits 7AM here12:12
Dr_willis:P12:12
RurouniJones!it | morgan_12:12
ubottumorgan_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)12:12
RurouniJonesREAD THAT ^12:13
ActionParsnip112:13pm here12:13
Dr_willis'its a small world after all....'12:13
Dr_willis:)12:13
shadeslayerDr_willis: you in the US right12:13
Dr_willisIndiana - about as Middle of the US as ya can get...12:14
Dr_williswell almost. :)12:14
Dr_willis'The Cross roads of america' is like our state motto., :)12:14
shadeslayerhehe12:14
Dr_willisState Bird = Cardinal , State Tree = Tulip12:15
Dr_willis'The official state food' = anything with corn and pork!12:15
Dr_willis:)12:15
Dr_williswell its bed time for me..12:16
Dr_willisand yes.. i got to bed at 7AM .. i work 3rd shift.  :P12:16
drmrhorseanybody around at this hour?12:17
RurouniJonesWhat, 9pm? Yes12:17
RurouniJonesWelcome to the internet, fabled land of many timezones12:18
drmrhorsethere are unpopular hours in the world for the internet12:18
drmrhorselike when the aussies wake up in the morning12:18
drmrhorsemy disk keeps filling up, even though im not adding to it12:19
drmrhorsewhen i looked at my log viewer, i see a kernel error that happens several times per second12:19
drmrhorseso im thinking the errors are making log entries and filling the disk12:19
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RurouniJonesPastie the error12:21
drmrhorsek12:21
drmrhorse01/25/2009 06:30:20 AMubuntukernel[ 9178.778629] TKIP: RX tkey->key_idx=1 frame keyidx=2 priv=f4b4054012:22
* RurouniJones stares blankly12:22
RurouniJones...right, can't help you12:22
RurouniJoneslooks like it is network related I THINK12:23
drmrhorsewhat makes you say that?12:23
arditxohi all12:24
arditxohow are you all12:24
arditxohope fine12:24
drmrhorsefrustrated, you?12:24
arditxocould someone help me please12:25
arditxohehe12:25
RurouniJonesthe acronyms look TCP related12:25
arditxoI can't change the mouse speed12:25
drmrhorsek12:25
robin0800drmrhorse: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-969896.html12:25
* fidji ne joue plus au Go12:25
drmrhorsethanks robin080012:26
arditxohow could I do that?12:26
drmrhorsetheres a thing is the system settings in kde 3.5 i think12:26
drmrhorsefor the mouse thing12:27
arditxoyeah indeed there is, but the option of speed changing isn't present12:27
arditxoright now it goes too fast for me12:27
arditxoI'm using kubuntu 8.1012:28
arditxohellooo12:29
arditxoanyone there?12:29
ActionParsnip1!mouse12:29
ubottuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto12:29
drmrhorsethe thing under keyboard and mouse, then the mouse tab12:30
drmrhorsethen advanced shows a thing called "pointer acceleration" that can be adjusted12:30
drmrhorsefor me that changes the mouse speed12:31
drmrhorseanybody know how to clean out the error logs when im though figuring out my problem?12:31
arditxoyeah right12:32
arditxooh gosh, I didn't notice that tab...!12:32
arditxo:)12:32
ActionParsnip1drmrhorse: rebooting clears the logs12:32
drmrhorsethanks ActionParsnip112:32
arditxothanks really12:32
ActionParsnip1drmrhorse: but when you boot, new logs are made for the bootup process12:33
drmrhorsenp12:33
drmrhorseso if i have the same problem it will repeat the disk filling thing all over again12:33
arditxosince I'm rather a newby I can't help much...12:34
drmrhorseim a n00b as well12:34
drmrhorsein case everybody cant tell12:34
ActionParsnip1drmrhorse: everyone is at some time12:34
arditxothanks for your help. See you soon :)12:34
a931b1Hi all12:35
a931b1How to uninstall drivers12:36
a931b1on KDE 3.512:36
ActionParsnip1a931b1: how did you install them12:38
cataldochi c'è12:41
drmrhorseis there a way to list all the files in order of size?12:43
a931b1From official installer12:43
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a931bwWhen i'm insalled it all 3d work's shitty12:44
a931bwwithout drivers just don't work effect's...12:45
a931bw;)12:46
a931bw>:o*12:47
a931bw:-[12:47
a931bwHow to uninstall drivers12:47
RurouniJonesAdd/Remove programs12:49
RurouniJonesAssuming that is how you added it12:49
ActionParsnip1a931bw: just remove the driver package you installed12:54
tictric_Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 012:56
tictric_I can't access my cdrom12:56
tictric_anyone knows that?12:57
tictric_worked before Intrepid12:57
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StR|Sangrealhi... pls how can i restore losing option to set up optacity of windows in kde4?13:07
tictrichttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/30495413:08
tictricI suffer from that.13:09
StR|Sangreal!optacity13:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about optacity13:09
StR|Sangreal!find optacity13:09
ubottuPackage/file optacity does not exist in intrepid13:09
tictricIs there a known solution?13:09
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altctrlhi guys i have a very annoyig problem13:24
altctrli have a toshiba laptop and i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and since then ilose x at random time andit write on the black screen13:25
altctrlchecking battery state13:25
altctrland i have to log in to kde again13:25
noir_lordheh, KDE4 is taking a pounding on slashdot today13:25
altctrlanyone any idea how can i fix it?13:26
StR|Sangrealplease how can i bring my desktop back to displaying advanced visual effects like window scrolling?13:28
slow-motionhi13:29
micha__Hi, does kubuntu support the intel storage matrix RAID system?13:33
pilatHi, I'm using Kubuntu Intrepid with kubuntu-experimental PPA enabled. And I'd like to fill bug-report. Where should I go in launchpad?13:35
shadeslayer!bugs13:35
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots13:35
pilatOk, but I'm at loss in defining "related package" or whatever category for this bug... Can somebody assist in this question?13:37
draikHow do I stop particular modules from loading at startup? Specifically, I want to stop lirc from boot since I have nothing for lirc.13:39
pilatdraik: don't know about lirc specifically, but try checking SystemSettings->Advanced->Autostart; another place: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist13:42
pilathttp://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+blacklist+modules+at+sturtup+Ubuntu13:42
draikThanks pilat13:43
StR|Sangrealplease, where can i configure keyboard if it is not present in system>keyboard?13:44
StR|Sangrealor how can i make it present there?13:44
SchuenemannStR|Sangreal,  setxkbmap13:47
Schuenemannsetxkbmap -model (model)  -layout (layout) -variant (variant)13:47
ActionParsnip1StR|Sangreal: or you  can add lines in xorg.conf13:48
pilathere's the bug, which I don't know to which package it's related: I regularly have my input locked. I.e., keybord doesn't respond (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, Ctrl+Alt+F1..F12, all doen't wark as well. Even "Numlock" and such indicators don't react), Also, mouse cursor only moves, but clicks don't work. I can only hard-reset my PC after the lock had happen... :-(13:48
StR|Sangrealto introduce my problem13:49
StR|Sangrealsince fglrx isnt compatible with ubuntu intrepid amd64, i had to install an open graphic driver... i have no clue how to configure it and sb out here advised me following config13:50
StR|Sangrealhttp://pastie.org/37014913:50
StR|Sangrealthe video stopped flickering and the szstem runs more fine13:50
StR|Sangrealhowever, i lost the option to setup keyboard, visual effects were disabled and maybe some more troubles i couldnt yet discover13:51
pilatThe exact action, which causes this lock is not defined as well.. Last time it locked when I worked with DigiKam.. Sometimes it locks when I'm trying to close firefox.. But this is not full list of "reasons". It may lock while I do nothing, for example..13:51
draikIs lirc a module or a service? Either way, I'm not finding it to disable from startup.13:51
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pilatdraik: hm.. I don't see "lirc" in my precesses at all..13:52
pilatdraik: what about System settings :: Advanced :: Service manager?13:53
draikpilat: lirc fails at boot and I don't have anything for lirc to run so I would rather disable it, and possibly other services/modules, to speed up the startup time.13:54
draikpilat: I'm there now, nothing mentioned.13:54
pilatand what "modinfo lirc" says?13:54
draikpilat: modinfo: could not find module lirc13:57
micha__Hi, does anyone have some experience with the intel storage matrix RAID system?13:58
pilatStR|Sangreal: I dont's have anything about "Generic Keyboard" in my xorg.conf, and everything is well configured thrugh KDE's system settings. Maybe, ithas a sense to comment this section out (Intrepid uses HAL, which makes quite good work in auto-mode)?13:59
FrederickFolks what %u stands for when calling an application?13:59
gps23Frederick, u mean in rox filer?14:01
pilatdraik: do you have TV tuner or such (presuming remote control) installed?14:02
Frederickwhat is rox filer?14:02
gps23Frederick, ignore my message then, there is a %u there too14:03
draikpilat: Nope. Nothing of the sort.14:03
gps23Frederick, where have you seen %u?14:04
Frederickkde in the command to launch aplications from kde menu14:04
Frederickbash does not lists %u as a command14:04
gps23Frederick, i don't remember seeing it, its most probably used as a placeholder for something14:05
pilatdraik: maybe "sudo aptitude uninstall lirc"?.. I don't have lirc installed, at all, for example.14:05
draikpilat: Package lirc is not installed, so not removed14:06
pilatFrederick: maybe %u stands for "user"? Ayway, this seems to be something application-specific.14:06
pilatdraik: and where you see this program (that it actually works)?14:07
Frederickpilat: I have it for many apps14:07
pilatFrederick: in "File type associations"?14:07
Frederickpilat: no in menu editor14:08
draikpilat: During boot, I see the things that are being run and lirc fails. I don't have use for lirc and want to stop it from boot.14:08
gps23Frederick, i found it, its in kmenueditor14:10
gps23Frederick, seems helpful http://markmail.org/message/tph2s6x3hj36lv6y14:10
philippe_Hi all14:10
pilatFrederick: seems to stand for "finename" (e.g.: "kate " - will open file "" with kate editor). But it's for Files types associations.. Don't know if it's applicable to menu editor.14:11
philippe_KDE4.2RC just did disable compositing because it was too slow , giving a message explaining how to re-anabled it ... but I didn't have the time to read it .... so if anyone knows ...14:12
Frederickgps23: Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-14:12
StR|Sangrealplease, how can i bring keyboard customisation back into system settings menu?14:13
gps23Frederick, ps syntax is fine, i executed it14:13
Frederickin konsole?14:13
gps23Frederick, in bash, using yakuake terminal14:13
StR|Sangreali mean i only have mouse and keyboard shortcuts in system>keyboards14:13
gps23Frederick, works in konsole too14:14
Frederickgps23: wierd can you paste here the command you used?14:14
gps23f = full format, a=all processes -x=show processes w/o tty14:15
Frederickgps23: I mean the exact command line14:16
gps23Frederick, ps fax14:16
gps23Frederick, what are u using?14:16
Black_Monkeyhi, installing the nvidia driver has made my audio completely stop working :/14:16
Frederickgps23: 11832 ?        Sl     2:04  \_ /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/firefox14:16
Frederickmeh14:16
Frederickgps23: ps fax | grep firefox14:16
gps23Frederick, thats fine, what's wrong?14:17
pilatdraik: couldn't find any instance of "lirc" in my system logs..14:17
Frederickgps23: I stil ldunno what is the %u for14:17
pilatdraik: and I definitely haven't played with this bevore. Do you use Intrepid?14:17
draikpilat: I wish I could get a screenshot of my computer's startup14:18
draikYes, I am on Intrepid.14:18
pilatdraik: find KSystemLogViewer in the menu14:18
gps23Frederick, me too searching for that :)14:19
pilat"Applications -> System -> System Logs Viewer", even14:19
Frederickgps23: I have to go eat now I will be back later can yousend me a private message in case you discover?14:19
Frederickgps23: we can ask kde dev14:19
Frederickoki I gotta rush14:19
draikpilat: Ok. Got it.14:19
Fredericko/14:20
gps23Frederick, okey14:20
pilatdraik: than type "lirc" into the "Filter bar"14:20
pilatthis should give some info14:20
draikNothing with lirc14:22
gps23%f - a single file name14:22
gps23  %F - a list of files; use for applications that can open several local files at once14:22
gps23  %u - a single URL14:22
gps23  %U - a list of URLs14:22
gps23  %d - the folder of a file to open14:22
gps23  %D - a list of folders14:22
gps23  %i - the icon14:22
gps23  %m - the mini icon14:22
gps23  %c - the caption14:22
gps23sorry, what i was trying to send using private message contained newlines14:23
bitmonsterhi. i have a raid hdd that features usb and sata connections. unfortunately the installation only works via usb as the bios only support boot from usb. to support sata i own a pcmcia controller which i want to boot from a usb stick (/boot is already installed on the stick). how can i use e.g. rdinit to provide the necessary modules of the pcmcia controller to migrate from usb connectivity to sata connectivity of the hdd?14:23
bitmonsterand how can i find which are the appropriate modules?14:24
pilatdraik: another point: do you have "lirc" in the list of processes? (Alt+F2; then click <Show system activity> Icont)?14:26
draikpilat: No, it's not running. It fails at boot so I guess it doesn't run.14:27
pilatFrederick: KDE Help center -> Application manuals -> Settings -> Menu editor; There is some info on how to use it (including the meaning of "" and others)14:28
ActionParsnip1gps23: use pastebin for that sort of text dude, scrolling is bad netiquette14:29
gps23ActionParsnip1, that was an accident, sorry14:29
ActionParsnip1gps23: np man14:31
aboSamoortrying to add the repository here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2 I can find a way to authenticate this repository14:31
aboSamoor?14:31
pilatdraik: couldn't find it in the conf/init files as well (sudo grep -ir "irc" /etc/*), except of couple of lines, in /etc/bash_completion and in /mplayer/input.conf... Maybe, that's some hardware checks by kernel (not even a module, but the core)?14:32
pilatdraik: if it's not running after you start, you may simply ignor these messages, I suggest.14:33
draikpilat: I think you're right. It loads and fails because it isn't installed (I'm assuming that's what is happening).14:33
aboSamoorI can not find a way to authenticate the RC1 repo*, please can you help me ?14:35
flithmHey everyone... I'm looking for the header file "kateviewinternal.h" and I can't find it any of the dev packages.  Anyone know if there's a package with this file?14:36
kaHi. Is there a app(with GUI) that can perform removal of text in multiple files in linux?14:38
Adolaka  You can try a program called FSlint14:39
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AdolaIt searches files for certain things.  I also believe you can remove them with it14:39
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kahm I even have that app installed... I ll check14:39
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kalpneed help with kubuntu interpid display14:41
kalpany expert on this?14:41
kaHm nope it can't do what I need. I need to remove a trojan from my webpages... It has inserted a javascript into most of my html files.14:41
kakalp: What is it you need help with?14:42
kalpon my laptop,14:42
kaJust say what you need help with. What you have written so far isn't much to go on...14:43
kalpi chose sum desktop effects and now i dont see anything wen it boots14:43
kalpit books ok, but the screen is all balck14:43
kalp*boots14:43
kalp*black14:44
kaIs the whole screen black or do see a commandline?14:44
kalpentire thing is black and jus coz i know where the icons are , i click and log out14:44
kaok no problem...14:46
ActionParsnip1kalp: do you get a logon screen when you boot?14:46
kaI just need to find the config file that you need to change14:47
kalpyes, i do get a login screen14:48
kakalp: Doyou use compiz or are we talking about KDE4 effects?14:48
ActionParsnip1kalp: thats good14:48
kalpi put in the password then the desktop is all black, its default , so i am positive its kde414:48
ActionParsnip1kalp: you could drop to root console boot and rename ~/.kde14:50
kaActionParsnip1: Couldn't he just delete the kwinrc file in .kde/share/config folder As far as I can see this is the file controlling the settings for desktop effects14:51
kalpwen i login from terminal to root login, the touch pad isnt workin, so cant do anything there14:51
kalpis that a solution that can be done from terminal?14:52
ActionParsnip1kalp: i'd do what ka recommends, but rename instead, if that doesnt fly, rename the whole thing14:52
kalpkwinrc isit?14:52
ActionParsnip1ka: advising rename is better, users can rollback if necessary14:53
Black_Monkeydoes anyone have any idea why installing the nvidia graphics driver should make me lose audio?14:53
kalp~/.kde , what is this? sorry guys i am new to this14:53
gps23kalp, i think better way is to open kwinrc file and change line compositing=true to compisiting=false14:53
kalpok14:53
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kalpdo u kno the path for kwinrc file?14:53
kalpi cud do that in nano14:54
kait is /home/Yourusername/.kde/share/config14:54
gps23kalp, when u reach logon prompt, open console using ctrl-alt-f114:54
kaor rather .kde/share/config/kwinrc14:54
gps23kalp, then use vim/nano to open and edit file described by ka14:54
kalpk14:54
ActionParsnip1kalp: reach logon, hit session type and change it to console logon14:55
kalpguys thanks , i wil try that right away14:55
kakalp: have you used vi or nano before?14:55
ActionParsnip1kalp: it will drop you to console where you can login as normal and rename the file14:55
kalpnano, i have14:55
kaok then you are all set.14:55
kaSo guys any one recal my earlier question? About deleting the same text in multiple files with a gui app?14:56
ActionParsnip1ka: you can use awk and cut14:56
gps23ka, why don't u used sed?14:57
gps23use*]14:57
gps23use*14:57
kayes I find many links to sed, but somehow the commands for sed dont seem to work because of the multiline blob I need to remove...14:58
ActionParsnip1ka: then use a find exec combo to find multiple files14:59
kaBut then again I suspect there is a sed command for this to.14:59
gps23ka, use s/// with replacement text as ""14:59
kaI just read a post saying that they used wingrep to remove the offending lines of code and I thoight well linux probably has something like this to...15:00
kalpguys, how do i save the changes in nano?15:00
gps23ctrl w15:00
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kaisn't it ctrl o?15:01
PodeCoetI can't write to any SD cards under Kubuntu and it's driving me crackers. If I start virtualbox, I can write to the card under XP15:01
kalpctrl w is "where is" find i guess15:01
PodeCoetbut not natively under kubuntu, keeps saying read only15:01
Schuenemannit's ctrl o, yes15:02
gps23kalp, sorry, its ctrl o15:02
gps23kalp, hit ctrl x after editing file, it will ask for save and then exit15:02
kalpnow how do i go in gui mode from terminal?15:02
kajust do ctrl alt f715:03
kaor startx15:03
gps23if u sed ztrl-atrl-f1 to go to console then use ctrl-atl-f715:03
gps23used*15:03
kalpk15:04
ActionParsnip1PodeCoet: how are you mounting it and what filesystem is the card using?15:04
PodeCoetActionParsnip1: It's automounting, and I believe it's vfat15:05
ActionParsnip1PodeCoet: if you run mount, you will see the mount options it has used to mount it, check it is mounted rw15:05
gps23ka, u can try: for file in `find <path>`; do sed -i s/<regex for script>// $file ; done;15:06
PodeCoetActionParsnip1: says readonly, just confirmed it's FAT32. How do I make it automount as writable?15:06
ActionParsnip1PodeCoet: no idea, i never use automount, you can remount it as rw though15:07
PodeCoetActionParsnip1: Tried this: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/disk-115:07
PodeCoetand got this: mount: block device /dev/sdd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only15:07
PodeCoetit's not actually write protected15:07
PodeCoet(again it works under WinXP guest under virtualbox)15:08
ActionParsnip1PodeCoet: unmount it, then run sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/disk-1 -o rw,noatime,user15:08
ActionParsnip1PodeCoet: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=31817515:09
PodeCoetActionParsnip1: same error ;\15:09
ActionParsnip1PodeCoet: read the link, it may help15:10
ActionParsnip1!mount | PodeCoet15:10
ubottuPodeCoet: Partitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter15:10
PodeCoetthanks, looking into it15:11
gps23kalp, here is the shortcut for ur task: kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled --type bool false15:11
kalpfrens, the problem persisits, only the screen is all white now!!15:12
kalpnow its turned black15:12
gps23?15:12
PodeCoetActionParsnip1: huh... It seems to be a compatibility issue with my card reader and Kubuntu, I just shoved the SD card into my Mio satnav, and I can read/write fine via kubuntu!15:12
gps23[Compositing]15:12
gps23Enabled=false15:12
gps23kalp, u changed this?15:12
kalpyes15:13
ActionParsnip1PodeCoet: looks like kubuntu is the system for you15:13
PodeCoetActionParsnip1: I dont get it :P15:13
gps23kalp, please tell me again what u did15:13
PodeCoetActionParsnip1: but thanks for your help thus far15:13
pat__Hi all, why when i plug in my external hard drive is it owned by root?15:14
ActionParsnip1me neither, weird15:14
gps23kalp, i mean, what u did when the problem came15:14
ActionParsnip1pat__: if it automounts then no, you may need to mount it manually to get user writability15:14
W8TAHhi folks - im running intrepid  with the kde4.2 beta, for some reason, kde will only let me have 2 desktops instead of the 4 i want - i have repeatedly set the number of desktops to 4 --- any ideas?15:14
pat__@ w8tah:  try logging out and in again15:15
W8TAHthis is a long running problem -- since intrepid was installed15:15
ActionParsnip1W8TAH: is this in compiz by any chance?15:15
W8TAHive doen so over and over15:15
kalpi opened the kwinrc file from terminal in nano and edited it, makin the effects false and saved the file, closed it and opened gui mode15:15
W8TAHin compiz and in the standard kde desktop15:15
kalpas i login in, its still the same15:15
ActionParsnip1W8TAH: in ccsm you can set horizontal desktop size15:16
W8TAHok - looking15:16
gps23kalp, no i am asking what u changed in kde, due to which the problem occurred15:16
kalpgps23, u mean why it happened?15:16
gps23kalp, yes15:16
kalpi enabled some dektop effects15:16
gps23kalp, if that would have been the reason, then it should have worked15:17
gps23kalp, u should now try renaming the .kde to something else15:17
kalp.kde , the entire folder?15:18
gps23kalp, yup, the only effect will be that it will set everything to default15:18
W8TAHActionParsnip1: can you tell me where in ccsm -- im not seeing it15:18
aboSamoorafter adding the Kubuntu 4.2 repo i faced dependency problem can you help me ? this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/109418/ ?15:18
gps23kalp, like it was when u logged in the first time15:19
kalpwats the command for renamong?15:19
kalprenaming?15:19
gps23kalp, mv15:19
gps23kalp, mv .kde .kde-backup15:19
pat__@ ActionParsnip: Kubuntu automounts the external drive but its owned my root. Would using chmod alter the permissions so i can rwx? Would I have to add it to fstab?15:19
ActionParsnip1W8TAH: General options and go to Desktop size. This gives Horizontal virtual size15:19
kalpk15:19
W8TAHkool15:19
kalpk done15:20
gps23kalp, now try logging in15:21
ActionParsnip1kalp: do you have a .kde4 folder too?15:21
kalpi wil av to check that15:22
kalpits 8.1 , so there must be i guess15:22
ActionParsnip1kalp: rename that too if you do: mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4_old15:22
kalpdo i av to be connected to internet wen i do all this?15:23
gps23kalp, nope15:23
kalphey!! its done!!15:25
kalpu guys rock!!!15:25
ActionParsnip1kalp: no all thwe folders are on your local system15:25
ActionParsnip1uber15:25
ActionParsnip1wtg duder15:25
gps23kalp, cool15:25
kalpwhere u guys from?15:25
gps23kalp, remember, most of the things u can damage being a normal user can be corrected by this method :)15:26
ActionParsnip1kalp: UK15:26
gps23kalp, India15:26
pat__Ireland15:26
kalpmyself India too15:26
gps23kalp, i got it when u renamed urself from sudhir :p15:26
kalpnow i realize the stability of linux!!!15:26
kalpthats my dads name15:27
ActionParsnip1kalp: you can do similar in windows in the profile folder15:27
kalpby renaming the folder?15:27
pat__is everyone running KDe 4.1?15:28
dsnaikeaboSamoor http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1 follow the instructions15:28
ActionParsnip1pat__: I have the libs and apps but run fluxbox15:28
gps23kalp, u can now either move the necessary folders back from .kde-backup folder to newly made .kde folder, or if u r like me, u can delete .kde-backup15:29
kalpgps23, wats the best server for india, mumbai?15:29
kalpmy adept si very slow15:29
kalpk ,i wil delete .kde-backup15:29
pat__i install synaptic from 'nome for my package manager, i dont like adept15:30
ActionParsnip1kalp: you will have to reconfigure your kde apps but it is very quick, stuff like amarok and ktorrent and whatever else15:30
gps23kalp, i'm using US servers, its set as default i think :p15:30
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kalpmayb its my connection then, coz earlier it was gud speed15:31
gps23kalp, u can go to software sources, then chose other, and then click select best server to chose the best server automatically15:32
gps23kalp, however this depends on current traffic etc15:32
White_PelicanI'm using 4.2 rc2 under intrepid. I am confused as to how to change some of the colors on the desktop. When I mouse over things, it is white text on a black background. How do I change that?15:33
kalpi did, but the merroring is taking lot of time, its gettin stuck15:33
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gps23kalp, then for a test u can chose main ubuntu's server or a US server15:34
kalpk15:34
ActionParsnip1White_Pelican: check your theme settings15:36
ActionParsnip1!theme | White_Pelican15:36
ubottuWhite_Pelican: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy15:36
White_Pelicanso it's a theme? it's not colors? under appearance?15:37
gps23White_Pelican, theme decides the colors15:37
EagleScreenis there any programm equivalent to cheese for KDE?15:38
White_Pelicanok, the color I'm speaking of, what is that called?15:38
White_Pelicanlet's say I pick honeycomb as a theme. I go to colors, and I don't know which item to change. that's what help I need with right now :)15:40
enigHello.15:40
enigI'm in need of a little help for i'm still just beggining in the Linux world15:41
Schuenemann!ask | enig15:41
ubottuenig: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:41
kalpguys, signing off, thanks for all ur help!!15:41
enigWell here's the deal, i instaled kubuntu, on partitions i choose manual because i already had Ubuntu installed but i like KDE better. and i ticked the format checkbox on the / disk and chose it to instal kubuntu. Everything works but i can't access my 2 other disks. I'm shure i didn't changed anything on them just the disk that i installed Kubuntu. So why can't i access those 2 other disks?15:43
RurouniJonesDefinve "access"15:43
enigOh and btw, i tried Ubuntu Live CD and it says it can't mount the disks, that i could use a command to force it but on my own risk.15:44
RurouniJonesyou mean boot form or access from kubuntu?15:44
ActionParsnip1enig: all you had to do was install kubuntu-desktop and you'd have the same15:44
enigAccesss as in going in to the hard drives and open the files-15:44
Schuenemannenig,  do a sudo fdisk -l to see if the partitions are still there15:44
ActionParsnip1enig: you will need them adding to fstab if they arent already there15:44
gps23i can see that asking to ask a question gets more attention :p15:44
enigWell the 3 hard drives appeared. the ext3 and swap from Linux and the other 2 ntfs i can't acess15:45
ActionParsnip1!ntfs-3g | enig15:47
ubottuenig: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions15:47
gps23excuse me if off topic, just wanna confirm that is it true that kde lost a user by the name of Linus Torvalds?15:47
enigoh. so it was all about it couldn't support ntsf?15:47
ActionParsnip1enig: it does with extra apps15:48
enigoh. and i thought it was something harder.15:48
enigbecause i tried PCLinuxOS and i could read them just fine15:48
enigI though i did something wrong when installing15:48
SlimeyPetegps23: where'd you hear that?15:49
SlimeyPete(it might be true for all I know)15:49
gps23there is an article in slashdot by computerworld15:49
gps23s/article/post/15:50
Schuenemannwhat is this s/wrong/right everybody use?15:51
gps23Schuenemann, substitute, used in perl/sed etc15:52
Schuenemannahh... it had to be perl X-(15:52
gps23Schuenemann, it is in perl but sed already had it, don't know whom had it before sed15:53
enigWell now i get the same error that i got in Ubuntu15:54
enigMounting /media/Dados2 failed.15:54
enig$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)15:54
enigFailed to mount '/dev/sdc1': Operação não suportada15:54
enigMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:15:55
enigChoice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by15:55
enig          clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows15:55
enig          taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.15:55
enigChoice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the 'force' option for15:55
enig          your own responsibility. For example type on the command line:15:55
enig            mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/Dados2 -o force15:55
enig    Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file:15:55
enig            /dev/sdc1 /media/Dados2 ntfs-3g force 0 015:55
enigNow what? :s15:55
gps23!pastebin | enig15:55
ubottuenig: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:55
enigoh sorry. didn't know about that15:57
enigbut here it is what i get15:57
enighttp://paste.ubuntu.com/109431/15:57
gps23enig, np man15:57
aboSamoorcan I know why none is answering my questions ? is there any problem in my questions ? or the answers go to friends ?!!15:57
enigshould i force the mount? or it is that unviable?15:58
gps23enig, if u have external hard disk then u can try choice 115:58
enigyeah but i don't have any.15:59
gps23aboSamoor, please ask ur question once more friend15:59
gps23enig, i am not sure but it is possible that ur ntfs drive is already mounted and in use16:00
leo_rockwaygreetings16:01
aboSamoorgps23: I added the KDE 4.2 RC1 repo to my repos. I faced a problem in authentication from that repo when I use update-notifier with ubuntu. I solved that by trying the command way. Now I downloaded the packages but while installing i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/109418/ . so I run apt-get install -f which removed kubuntu-desktop ! Thanks for help :)16:02
enigI only see one. the bigger disk. and it gives me an error when i try to open it16:02
leo_rockwayare there any plans to backport kde4.2 for hardy when it comes out?16:02
enigsaying that only root can mount a device16:03
dsnaikeaboSamoor did u use this repo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main16:03
gps23aboSamoor, how did u authenticated?16:04
gps23enig, thats true16:04
aboSamoordsnaike: yes16:04
aboSamoorgps23: in terminal it asked me if I want to install un authenticated packages and I said yes16:05
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gps23aboSamoor, afaik u also need to install pgp-keys16:05
gps23aboSamoor, i needed keys when i added media repo16:05
eniggps23: oh now i realized, when i type in gksudo ntfs-config i get these 2 errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/109441/16:06
dsnaikegive me a second getting what u need16:06
gps23enig, these are warnings by libbonobo, seems to be related to gksudo, u can ignore them16:08
dsnaikeaboSammor go here and follow the instructions for intrepid ibex http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc116:08
enigNow i see the both folders of the disks at /media.  But when i try to go to one or to another i get a black folder with access denied at the bottom.16:08
dsnaikeit's what i used and no problems16:08
enigblank*16:09
enigtypo16:09
gps23enig, seems like only root has access rights for these folders16:09
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enigyeah but ain't i suposed to be root? i mean they weren't there before, and when i installed i didn't see anything to configure root16:10
enigi thought i had root previleges on this user16:10
enigI was checking out the permissions, The owner is root, but all others can view files.16:11
enigStill i get access denied16:11
gps23enig, for directory i think u need execute permissions to list the files16:12
enigAnd still giving the "only root can mount the devices"16:12
gps23enig, as a quick fix u can change owner of the directories16:13
gps23enig but there has to be a better way16:13
enigWell i'm reading about the mounting it the manual way.16:14
aboSamoorgps23: how can i download this gpg packages. I got this error messages after restarting the whole process "Errors were encountered while processing:16:15
aboSamoor /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"16:15
gps23enig this is true that only root can do mount/umount16:16
gps23aboSamoor, may be this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt16:17
gps23aboSamoor, i am unable to understand the error though16:18
gps23enig, mount -t ntfs-3g volume mount_point [-o option[,...]]16:19
gps23enig, this is a nice link abt same http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700916:21
enigi'm ounting at fstab16:21
a931bw How to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu 7.04?16:21
enigalready made a backup, now trying as the website says16:21
enigBut will look into that too16:21
a931bw How to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu 7.04?16:24
gps23brb16:25
ravhello. I have Kubuntu 8.04.2, and I'm using virtualbox to test out Intrepid. Anyone knows how to install the VBoxAddons?16:26
m_tadeuhi all16:27
m_tadeuhas anyone tried to set a twin view system? I think plasma doesn't support it yep, but....16:28
m_tadeuI have my first screen ok, but the second is blank, only showing the X cursor16:29
Tm_Tm_tadeu: it does support it well in KDE 4.216:29
ravanyone knows if there are equivalent packages for linux-kernel-devel for ubuntu?16:30
m_tadeuTm_T: I0m using it...so there must be something I'm doing wrong16:30
jillsmitthi people16:30
Tm_Trav: linux-source ?16:31
Tm_Tm_tadeu: perhaps16:32
ravTm_T: i'll give it a try16:32
m_tadeuTm_T: any ideas?16:33
Tm_Tm_tadeu: sorry no, haven't tried it myself yet16:33
a931bw How to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu 7.04?16:33
m_tadeuTm_T: i'll try #kde ;)16:34
Tm_Ta931bw: you cannot unless you compile yourself16:34
Tm_Ta931bw: but, wouldn't make much sense, really16:34
jillsmittis there a kubuntu channel for russian users on ru_RU.utf-8?16:34
Tm_T!ru | jillsmitt16:34
ubottujillsmitt: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:34
a931bwНету((16:34
Tm_Tjillsmitt: that's all I know16:35
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a931bwа там сомневаюсь что помогут пока водку им непоставиш16:35
riorio!ru | a931bw16:35
ubottua931bw: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:35
Tm_Ta931bw: please no russian in here16:35
jillsmittTm_T: why no ru?16:36
Tm_Tthis is english only channel16:36
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kalphi16:36
Tm_Twouldn't make much sense to talk all ~150 languages here we have translations16:36
kalpppl, is voice chat possible on kopete?16:37
Tm_Tkalp: perhaps with jabber/xmpp, but it's not officially supported yet IIRC16:37
Tm_Tkalp: means, no guaranteed to work16:37
y4y4nghi <Tm_t>16:37
jillsmittIs anybody from Panama City there?16:38
y4y4ngerr16:38
jillsmittI was in FL16:39
Tm_Ty4y4ng: hi hi16:40
kalpwat abt net telephony?16:40
Tm_Tkalp: no really16:40
kalpis there an application, not in kopete16:41
askandI cant burn with k3b..  I get: :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK]: Input/output error16:44
askand:-( attempt to re-run with -dvd-compat -dvd-compat to engage DAO or apply full blanking procedure16:44
askand:-( write failed: Input/output error16:44
DaSkreechVoice should work with yahoo I think16:49
Tm_TDaSkreech: hmm, does?16:51
DaSkreechshould16:51
DaSkreechNo clue if it does16:51
StR|Sangrealplease, i have just installed my kubuntu and i would like to save configuration, installed packages names and other changes so that i can repeat the same setup in the future... is it possible?16:53
craveranyone running 4.2 here?16:58
cravergetting "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" when i run speedcrunch.16:58
Unksicraver: it works well here17:00
cravercrap17:01
craverldd /usr/bin/speedcrunch |grep -i Qt17:01
craver        libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x00007f6045621000)17:01
craver        libQtXml.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtXml.so.4 (0x00007f6044ec0000)17:01
craver        libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00007f6044a82000)17:01
Unksi        libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x00007f20b962a000)17:02
Unksi        libQtXml.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtXml.so.4 (0x00007f20b8ec9000)17:02
Unksi        libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00007f20b8a8b000)17:02
Unksihave you tried updating?17:02
craveryes, tried reinstalling speedcrunch today also17:03
Unksiok17:03
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: Yes it's possible17:03
craveri have duplicate libs in /opt/project-neon/lib/ so wonder if they are causing a problem.17:03
Unksii have the amarok 2 repo cinstalled as well, dunno if it affects it17:04
Unksii dont think it shouldnt if you are not running neon17:04
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craverKDE Version 4.2.6017:06
StR|SangrealDaSkreetch: how?17:06
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: copy your /etc directory and ~/.* somewhere safe17:07
Unksicraver: 4.1.96 here17:07
Unksi4.2rc117:07
DaSkreechThat's an essential copy of every setting file that affects you17:07
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: I don't know exactly what you want to keep settings for so I can't give more specific info17:07
StR|Sangrealwhat will it cause?17:07
DaSkreechIn terms of what?17:08
DaSkreechcraver: 4.2.60>17:08
StR|Sangreali want to keep applications and dependancies, plugins and some relevant settings17:08
craveryes17:08
DaSkreechThere is no 4.2.6017:08
DaSkreechKDE version ?17:08
UnksiDaSkreech: guess thats a nightly17:08
craverK Desktop Environment17:09
craverVersion 4.2.60 (KDE 4.2.60 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090116))17:09
DaSkreechAh trunk17:09
DaSkreechWhere did you get that frm ?17:09
DaSkreechfrom?17:09
Unksineon repo^17:09
craveryes17:09
craverdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main17:10
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: You can't keep applications. You can do a package export and reinstall pretty easy17:10
StR|Sangrealso it is17:11
StR|Sangrealthats what i mean17:11
StR|Sangrealso what would you recommend me to do?17:11
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Guest65092test17:12
jasonwoopwoop17:12
DaSkreech!test17:13
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.17:13
Guest65092hmm alittle new to this... I am trying to install soprano-deamon but it conflicts with libsoprano-dev the conflicting file is the same in both packages and apt-get --force yes won't work any help17:13
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: Well if you want all your apps and settings and plugins then export your package list (I'll get you a URL for that soon) and backup /etc and ~/.*17:13
Guest65092I see that there is a bug report filed but I can't find a solution17:14
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DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-restore-all-installed-packages-in.html17:16
craverjust going to use abakus instead17:17
nathan__345is there a better way to force a package to overwrite a file?17:17
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DaSkreechsudo ?17:21
s0101plz help my desktop is bigger than my screen, after i did a large update i restarted the comp and it said on restart that it would run with less graphich17:21
s0101i have hrdy heron 8.0417:22
s0101hardy17:22
s0101what can i do?17:23
ravs0101: do you have a Nvidia graphics card?17:24
s0101yes17:24
jillsmitts0101: are propr. drivers installed?17:24
s0101it worked perfeft before17:24
ravs0101: do 'sudo aptitude install envyng-core'17:25
ravs0101: every time you update the kernel, you have to reinstall the driver17:25
s0101it ask me if i want to continue yes or know17:25
ravs0101: yes17:26
s0101i write yes but it dosent work17:26
s0101i did your comand17:26
s0101sorry17:26
s0101it is working17:26
s0101i have swedish settings and it did ask me in swedish but i changed Ja to yes17:27
s0101i have installed it17:27
s0101whats next?17:27
ravs0101: once it finishes installing, do 'sudo envyng -t'17:27
s0101yes and next17:28
ravs0101: follow the menu, choose to install the Nvidia driver17:28
carlossnchezhello can someone help me with compiz please?17:29
s0101i am waiting for the install17:29
s0101:)17:29
ravcarlossnchez: what's the problem?17:29
s0101my internet has been slow today thts why the install is taking time17:30
carlossnchezi went to the compiz fusion setup and to make cube is ctrl alt down but i cannot do17:30
carlossnchezcan we go to an individual conversation?17:30
cravercause ctrl-alt-down is reserved for something else17:31
craverflatten cube i believe17:31
ravs0101: just follow the instructions and your driver should work correctly17:31
carlossnchez<Control><Alt>Downyes, flatten cube17:31
s0101ok17:32
carlossnchezim pressing now, doesnt occur something17:32
craverUnfold is what it's called17:32
carlossnchezok thanks unfold17:32
craverin ccsm --> Desktop --> Desktop Cube17:32
craverjust change it to something else17:33
robinrHow do I perform an integrity check of all installed programs?17:34
robinrsomething like rpm's rpm --verify -a17:34
s0101It asked me to restart and i did17:34
s0101what is the next step?17:34
ravs0101: you should have everything working correctly now17:35
s0101screen is still big and the text where i write my user name looks small and ugly17:35
s0101sorry i am activating the driver17:36
s0101brb just one more restart17:36
carlossnchezsorry i vsnt17:37
carlossnchezdorry i cant17:37
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ravcarlossnchez: hablas español?17:40
s0101thanks mate it is working but just one question17:41
ravs0101: yes?17:41
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s0101is there any option to chose how big the desktop should be?17:41
ravs0101: it depends on the resolution you're using17:42
carlossnchezsi si hab lo español17:42
s0101where do i check?17:42
RurouniJones!se | carlossnchez17:42
ubottucarlossnchez: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se17:42
RurouniJoneswhoops17:42
RurouniJones!es | carlossnchez17:42
ubottucarlossnchez: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:42
s0101800 times 60017:43
carlossnchezthanks17:43
ravs0101: In System Settings. you can choose a bigger resolution17:43
s0101i only have 640*480 and 800*60017:44
ravs0101: you can try changing the monitor type, you're probably using the generic one17:45
s0101i use plug n play17:45
s0101in which menu?17:46
ravs0101: it works in most cases, but if you don't have higher resolutions, it's not detecting them or your screen doesn't have them17:46
s0101is it same menu as the resolution?17:46
s0101it says unknown17:47
Guest20091hi17:47
s0101for the screen17:47
ravs0101: on the hardware tab17:47
s0101where can i find?17:48
ravs0101: you have to click the 'Administrator mode' button, and then the 'Configure' button17:48
s0101i am looking for it17:49
s0101sorry i am a bit gren17:49
s0101green17:49
kaminix[18:35] [490]  Hidden hosts only (+q), You must hide your host using +q to join this channel.  <-- How would I do this in Konversation?17:49
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s0101cant find it17:50
s0101are you still here?17:52
s0101now i cant activate more desktop efects17:53
s0101maybe a upgrade to version 8.10 would fix it?17:54
syockitwhat do you suggest for backups: lzma, bz2, zip, or tar.gz?17:54
dhqi need to buy an external harddrive which is the best compatible with ubuntu 1tb please tell me the best one17:55
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LynoureI have a P5Q pro motherboard, and it seems Kubuntu alternative installer does not detect the network card. I kind of think the live cd did, but not 100% sure.18:05
DaSkreechsyockit: bz2 for space tar.gz for being able to get it out anywhere18:05
DaSkreechKind of did?18:05
LynoureAny ideas? I need the alternative to get software raid from the getgo...18:05
LynoureDaSkreech: I kind of think. I know it works in Windows...18:06
syockitDaSkreech: lzma should be better for space? Never mind, I got everything from http://www.maximumcompression.com/data/summary_mf3.php . Gonna go for lzop18:06
DaSkreechWhat is in your /etc/network/interfaces file ?18:06
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DaSkreechsyockit: aight18:06
xliquidhey folks...18:07
LynoureDaSkreech: I did not get far enough to get one, it said no network card detected...18:07
DaSkreecho_O18:07
DaSkreechsudo lshw -c Network18:07
LynoureDaSkreech: you have forgotten me, I can tell.18:07
DaSkreechNo :)18:08
LynoureDaSkreech: did not go through the install, stopped there to reboot to win to see the card did not die.18:08
DaSkreechJust trying to help while cleaning the house so I'm a bit terse18:08
DaSkreechAh ok18:08
DaSkreechwell if the live CD works grab the /etc/network directory and save it18:08
DaSkreechThe /etc/mod* might help as well18:09
mefisto_that should be uppercase C, as in lshw -C Network18:09
ubuntuhi18:09
xliquidi understand this is the place to come if you get stuck using ubuntu18:09
LynoureDaSkreech: It looked like a driver problem.18:09
DaSkreechmefisto_: I think it doesn't matter but I normally use -C18:09
ubuntuit's my first time with ubuntu :P18:09
DaSkreechxliquid: Close18:09
DaSkreechubuntu: Welcome!!18:09
mefisto_DaSkreech: lowercase -c won't work18:10
DaSkreechFair enough18:10
ubuntuthanks daskreech ^^ I'm from Spain18:10
ubuntumy english is too bad :P18:10
DaSkreechubuntu: Great Would you like to speak in Espanol ?18:10
mefisto_xliquid: you're in the right place. just ask your question18:11
ubuntudo you speaking spanish?18:11
DaSkreech!es18:11
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:11
kaminixTo where does the edict package install?18:11
ubuntuoks ubottu18:11
xliquidwell im hoping someone can point me in the right direction. im fairly new at ubuntu. so far i have been able to figure things out on my own or search the web for answers. this question has got me stumped... im trying to figure out how to get Transmistion or uTorrent to download stuff to a shared network drive. i can see the drive when i go to places> network> windows network> computer name> F:\ and i can brows around the drive.. open, edit, delete files fr18:12
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LynoureDaSkreech: seems to work fine in normal installer, too bad I need raid1 and lvm18:14
DaSkreechxliquid: Hmm this is in Gnome?18:14
xliquiddid i say something wrong?18:14
xliquid...?18:15
DaSkreechno just that Gnome handles networks differently from KDE18:15
xliquidoh sorry, didnt notice the scroll bar hadnt caught up18:15
DaSkreechSo #ubuntu would be much more knowlegeable in answering that particular question18:15
xliquidok18:16
Pconfighey, i've got some kind of font problem since KDE 4.2 beta ==> KDE 4.2 RC18:17
Pconfiganti aliasing doesn't seem to work anymore18:17
Pconfigfonts are really ugly18:17
Pconfiganyone else had this?18:17
DaSkreechLynoure: Should be able to get it working18:18
Pconfig(already tried setting my fonts back to default)18:18
rauseweeeee let's go jajajaja18:18
rausei'm running on irc hispano jeje18:18
rausethanks DaSkreech18:18
try4ceHey my Windows XP installation is messed up and won't boot anymore. I want to repair it but I think the GRUB is preventing me from booting my XP CD.18:18
LynoureDaSkreech: yes, by migrating to raid and lvm manually, I guess, it's just many times as much work :(18:18
DaSkreechwell I was saying that you can do alternate install and then get network working18:19
DaSkreech Though it really should work18:19
DaSkreechDid hardy have RAID and LVM?18:19
DaSkreechShould.18:19
DaSkreechYou can do a minimal install of that then upgrade to Ibex and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop18:20
mefisto_try4ce: grub won't prevent booting from CD. if grub loads, then you've booted in grub. you need to boot from CD before the PC looks at the disk for something to boot into18:20
LynoureDaSkreech: I'm not sure if hardy has the network support... another disk to burn.18:21
draikI have a DVD iso on my desktop. I want to cut out a snippet from the video. How do I do this?18:21
try4ceHmm. Well my CDROM is listed as the first boot device but I'm not sure why it still goes to GRUB first, even when I disable other boot devices.18:21
DaSkreechLynoure: Yeah Boo18:21
LynoureDaSkreech: big boo to kubuntu, yeah.18:21
DaSkreechWell those scripts are simply copied from Ubuntu which are modified from Debian so not sure where the break is18:22
harjotd18:23
harjothello18:23
harjotcan i have help plz18:23
mefisto_try4ce: some machines will let you hit F8 on startup which will bring up a window that lets you select the boot device. you could try that. (hit F8 repeatedly before boot process starts)18:23
DaSkreechharjot: With?18:23
DaSkreechor F1218:23
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harjotdoes anybody know how to write gambas?18:24
try4ceHmm sounds worth a try. I didn't see that option listed but I can try.18:24
DaSkreechLynoure: When does the Alternate Cd break?18:24
DaSkreechgambas is like basic I think18:24
mefisto_try4ce: have you tried other boot CDs? eg kubuntu liveCD?18:24
DaSkreechSo you should be able to use any Qbasic tutorial and write in gambas18:24
harjoti know  i got it but how do u launch an app from it?18:24
DaSkreech!info gambas18:25
ubottuPackage gambas does not exist in intrepid18:25
try4ceI haven't tried yet. I've got some other Linux discs I could try.18:25
DaSkreechha18:25
DaSkreechharjot: Compile i think18:25
harjot???????????18:25
DaSkreechThen run the reslting executable file18:25
DaSkreechharjot: #gambas might help18:25
try4ceThanks for the advice, I'll be back if I still can't get it...18:25
jussi01!info gambas218:26
ubottugambas2 (source: gambas2): Complete visual development environment for Gambas. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7-1 (intrepid), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB18:26
harjoti have got gambas the program to make stuff but when i want the program i make to launch an app i dont understand how to do that from gambas18:26
harjotby the way im on hardy18:26
LynoureDaSkreech: it says at the point when it's detecting network hardware that it cannot find any.18:27
WalzmynInteresting, i just joined the room because i'm having trouble installing gambas.18:27
DaSkreechWalzmyn: try gambas218:27
harjotive installed gambas 2 from the synaptic18:27
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WalzmynDaSkreech, was. Adept is telling me the install is broken, how do i get it to gimme more information about WHY?18:28
DaSkreechAdept is a little funky in Ibex18:28
LynoureDaSkreech: so I could install it, but then end up without network... maybe different kernel in those two. In that case could be as easy as getting a newer kernel on a stick.18:28
WalzmynDaSkreech, i'm on 8.0418:28
DaSkreechtry sudo apt-get -f install from the command line18:28
DaSkreechClose adept first18:28
DaSkreechLynoure: possibly but more likely it's modules18:28
harjotWalzmyn: You should type sudo apt-get install gambas218:29
harjothow do i make MY PROGRAM launch another program?18:30
LynoureDaSkreech: those come in the kernel .deb too, me thinks.18:30
DaSkreechharjot: That's a language question I'd hope that basic has a System() call18:30
DaSkreechLynoure: Good point :)18:30
harjotso what do i type?18:31
Walzmynwow, there's a bunch of missing dependicies18:31
Walzmynso, why would i be experiencing broken dependencies when no one else is?18:34
harjotwat do i type when u were saying about a system call18:34
DaSkreechharjot: I don't know ask in #gambas18:34
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harjotdarkscreech they arent helping cause they dont say anthing?18:38
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DaSkreech:-)18:39
DaSkreechof course not18:39
harjotso wat do i do?18:39
harjot????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????//////???//?????????????????????????????18:40
DaSkreechhttp://gambasdoc.org/help/doc/release?view18:40
DaSkreechharjot: please stop that18:40
Walzmyndude, don't spam the channel18:40
harjotsoz18:41
harjotty18:41
paolo_hi, in which folder are the application icons (vlc, konqueror, firefox etc.) located ?18:42
Walzmynpaolo i don't know, but someone in #kde might be able to help you with that.18:43
beth_is there a way to use the prerelease version of just one package?18:43
paolo_Walzmyn: right18:43
* rause listen Bomfunk MC - Turn it up18:44
seelehow do you set browser identification in firefox? i didnt see it in the preferences menu18:46
syockitseele: You mean user agents? maybe in about:config18:47
syockitbetter yet, download user agent switcher18:47
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KDeskI can configure my display to turn off automatcly, it turns "off" but the backlight is still on, what can I do? What component is the probelm? Xserver, driver, KDE?18:48
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syockitAhh paolo_'s gone! i wanted to tell him /usr/share/pixmaps !18:49
syockitbeth_: you can enable repositories temporarily. After installing the packages, you can disable it. You get no update notifications though18:50
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beth_that's acceptable, but there's no way to flag just one package to update from a different repository?18:52
seelesyockit: yes, that's it.  thanks18:52
DaSkreechseele: Extension AFAIR18:56
DaSkreechbeth_: No18:57
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stnormalhey, I kind of hosed my kubuntu install trying to get a program to work. There was a conflict that required me to uninstall kubuntu-desktop, I figured worst case I'd just be stuck with a terminal, but it still tries to render the GUI and absolutely nothing works18:58
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leo_rockwayis there any replacement for http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/dists/hardy/ ? I want to install KDE4.2RC but Hardy's packages are empty18:58
stnormalI tried booting into the recovery mode, but I can't reinstall kubuntu-desktop because there's no internet access18:58
syockitnext time someone could try developing package manager which downloads specific packages from a repo. That'll introduce dependency hells!18:59
stnormalany ideas for how I could get to a terminal through the regular boot sequence, or get internet access in the recovery mode?19:00
syockitleo_rockway: hardy's far too old for that. maintenance is a pain in the ///19:00
leo_rockwaysyockit: so I take it there won't be a backport of 4.2 final?19:00
beth_I want to pull a newer kernel, so I enabled the prerelease sources and updated, I see it now when I search, but I don't know all the different components I'd need to pull in to get a working kernel, is there a virtual package to make this easier?19:01
syockitstnormal: Depends on method of connection. You can boot as single user mode and select command prompt (it's usually the second line during grub)19:01
syockitstnormal: if it's wifi, you'll have to know the command line for wifi managers19:02
stnormalthe second line during grub is "recovery mode", and I don't know the command line to get my internet connection to work19:02
stnormalit's not wifi19:02
DaSkreechstnormal: at grub press e twice then at the end type single then press enter then b19:03
stnormalk19:03
syockitstnormal: hmm. do you have live CD?19:03
DaSkreechbeth_: linux-image19:03
saranhi19:03
stnormalI do have the live CD19:03
beth_DaSkreech thanks19:04
syockitstnormal: if you do, you can chroot and repair packages19:04
syockitlive CD is slow tho19:04
stnormalanyhow, I can get to the kubuntu log-in screen19:04
syockitI use live usb19:04
syockitstnormal: and login fails?19:04
stnormalwill one of the session types/menu options get me to a prompt?19:04
stnormalno, the GUI is hosed19:04
stnormalnothing gets rendered right19:04
DaSkreechstnormal: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart19:05
beth_DaSkreech: it says the following packages are broken linux-generic, it doesn't list modules either19:05
DaSkreechsudo apt-get 0f install19:05
DaSkreech-f install19:05
altrortlaheiiii buddies.... i'm looking for handicap people hardware and software solution any tips?19:05
stnormalas soon as I can get to a prompt with internet access, I'm just going to reinstall kubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies19:05
syockitstnormal: that's more of xorg trouble. yup, you should repair them packages. but no internet, you say?19:05
syockitstnormal: can you see what ifconfig does19:06
stnormaluhh, if I get back to the recovery console19:06
stnormallet me try a few things first19:06
stnormalnice, the login screen had an option for console login, i should be fine19:06
DaSkreech:-)19:07
DaSkreechstnormal: or failsafe19:07
DaSkreechit opens X and a xterm19:07
DaSkreechYou will have to put kwin& as the first command but you should be ok after that19:07
syockitokay, xorg's still safe then19:07
stnormalyeah... the long version of my problem is that I've got a really poorly designed piece of scientific software that I'm trying to get to work (Gaussview), and I noticed that the MesaGL library it uses is the software one19:08
syockitaltrortla: They go by the name "Accessibilites"19:08
syockitaltrortla: look for it in System Settings19:08
stnormalso I figured I'd remove the hardware ones to see if that made it work right, but that required removing kubuntu-desktop19:09
stnormaland that hosed things19:09
stnormalis there a way to run ubuntu without anything (KDE/Gnome) over X server?19:10
syockitstnormal: yes, you can run with just window managers, and lots of terminals19:10
DaSkreechyes19:10
stnormalso how would I go from kubuntu to that?19:11
stnormalwhat would I have to remove/disable?19:11
DaSkreechinstall ubuntu-server and don't install *-desktop packages19:11
DaSkreechsee #fluxbuntu19:11
DaSkreech!puregnome19:11
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »19:11
stnormalk19:12
stnormalthanks19:12
altrortlasyockit: thanks for tips... but i'm looking for some complex solution... this man have more problem (he do not have hands abilities, he can use only eyes)19:12
syockitaltrortla: sorry, I didn't see the hardware part19:13
csc_is there a way to not be prompted for installing updates of specific packages only ? i have an updater daemon running on the desktop but i dont want to unselect the packages i modified for my needs  each time19:14
syockitcsc_: is that you beth?19:17
syockitcsc_: or I got the wrong person19:17
DaSkreechcsc_: aptitude can pin packages19:17
syockitcsc_: for now, you can only tell package manager to hold19:18
syockitcsc_: aptitude uses a different state file. U need to use dpkg19:18
syockitcsc_: for easy task, use either synaptic or adept19:18
beth_what is the current version of the kernel for stable intrepid?19:19
beth_is it 2.6.27-9 or 2.6.27-11?19:19
stnormal-9, i think19:19
dapper-danielIs anyone here using XEN 3.3 with Nividia drivers? Drivers compile fine but X.org freezes...19:19
beth_ok thanks19:19
syockitcsc_: sorry, adept doesn't seem to have that. use synaptic for gui19:19
stnormali haven't gotten any prompts to upgrade from -9 yet, that's all I'm going on19:19
laadissia19:20
KDeskHow can I make openoffice to use the oxygen icons?19:20
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beth_I'm seeing -9 it's just on another system I had -11 so I thought maybe something was up19:21
beth_I probably just had prerelease selected on that one is all19:21
WishingMastercan anyone tell me a command to check installed packs ?19:26
jussi01WishingMaster: like: dpkg -l19:27
jussi01?19:27
WishingMasterhmmmm let me try that 1 jussi0119:27
syockitKDesk: In tools>options, under openoffice.org>view, see Icon & style19:29
syockitKDesk: btw, that was version 3.0 . It might be slightly different19:29
KDesksyockit: thank you!19:30
dtchensyockit: did you get the necessary policykit bits installed?19:30
KDesksyockit: Hmm, but I dont have the oxygen option in 2.4.1, do you have that option in 3? Are you using 8.10 or 9.04?19:31
syockitdtchen: maybe it was galaxy19:31
syockitdtchen: wrong person19:32
WishingMasterdpkg -l shows the packages but when i try to remove some of them the system says that they are not installed,could you tell me what to do in that case?19:33
WishingMasterdpkg -l shows the packages but when i try to remove some of them the system says that they are not installed,could you tell me what to do in that case?19:33
jussi01WishingMaster: give me an example?19:34
leo_rockwayWishingMaster: dpkg -l flags installed packages with ii19:34
WishingMasterlike i want to remove kate19:34
leo_rockwayWishingMaster: the ones that say rc were previously uninstalled but non purged19:34
WishingMasterhmmmm19:35
WishingMasterlet me check that leo`19:35
syockitdtchen: somehow got it solved, but forgot how19:35
KDeskI can configure my display to turn off automatcly, it turns "off" but the backlight is still on, what can I do? What component is the probelm? Xserver, driver, KDE?19:36
dtchensyockit: ok19:36
WishingMasterhow do i purge them leo_rockway19:37
ohhaiWhen trying to compile using cmake, compiler cannot find my CURL, even though the latest version is installed. Using 8.10, 32bit. Here's a more detailed log of the occurrence: http://www.pastebin.com/m781a34a0. Please, help. =)19:37
syockitKDesk: more of driver. things to do with acpm/notebook specifics19:37
WishingMasterkate has rc in front of it19:37
DaSkreechNice19:37
DaSkreechStuff is already underway for KDE 4.319:38
WishingMaster`leo`19:38
syockitKDesk: sorry, was supposed to be apm19:38
KDesksyockit: It is a desktop... I think it affects many intel users.19:39
leo_rockwayWishingMaster: dpkg --purge I believe19:39
KDeskah, do you think that I should put apm=off i grub?19:39
WishingMasteri have tried apt-get purge19:39
DaSkreechWishingMaster: technically it's already gone19:39
leo_rockwayWishingMaster: apt-get remove --purge works only for installed packages19:39
DaSkreechWishingMaster: It's apt-get remove kate --purge19:39
syockitKDesk: then it won't work?19:40
leo_rockwayif the package got uninstalled without being purged then you can dpkg --purge19:40
WishingMasterhmmmm das`19:40
KDesksyockit: I dont know :(19:40
KDeskJust asking :)19:40
syockitKDesk: what's the make of your pc?19:40
tarmathhi lads... i cant get any sound working in flash... used to work before... but not on kubuntu 8.10.... ive been looking around trying stuff but to no avail...19:40
KDeskthis is generic, but in a Dell with intel I had the same problem.19:41
dtchentarmath: you're not pulseaudio, are you?19:41
tarmathdtchen: not 'really' but ive tried after starting it manually...19:42
KDeskWhy is pulseaudio installed by default in so may distros? If it makes more problems that anything...19:42
dtchentarmath: using pulseaudio introduces quite a few headaches19:42
dcxwhy does can't I hear audio from my browser?19:42
leo_rockwayKDesk: xset dpms force off19:42
syockitKDesk: maybe the same reason why kde4.0 was introduced in hardy :p19:42
dtchenKDesk: because it's a chicken-and-egg problem19:42
pablomiłość19:42
BentFrankInstalling NX 3.3 on Kubuntu 8.10.  Just one Linux on the LAN.  Do I have to run "nxserver --nodeadd 127.0.0.1"?19:43
DaSkreechsyockit: That's not nearly the same19:43
leo_rockwayKDesk: see if that turns your backlight off19:43
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dtchenKDesk: the only way bugs get fixed is to field it in popular distro releases19:43
syockitleo_rockway: okay I'll try19:43
tarmathdtchen: it's not started by default... like right now... and I dont have any sound in flash19:43
tarmathI thought Id try my luck with it since it's supposed to be supported starting flash 10...19:43
leo_rockwayif it does then maybe you can make a script out of it or smth19:43
dtchentarmath: you don't need pulseaudio to get audible sound with Flash19:44
dcxBut I can hear everthing else except for what's pn my internet browser19:44
KDeskleo_rockway: It goes off, but the backlight is still on.19:44
dtchentarmath: do you actually use anything specific to pulseaudio?19:44
tarmathdtchen: I dont use pulseaudio, I just tried with it...19:44
leo_rockwayKDesk: that command should've turned your backlight off. There's your problem.19:44
leo_rockwayKDesk: acpi uses xset dpms to turn off the backlight19:45
dtchentarmath: ok, first, make sure you remove the pulseaudio packages19:45
KDeskleo_rockway: Yes? Oh, now I now the problem, that is good :) What can I do? Report a bug?19:45
dtchentarmath: at the very least, remove the pulseaudio package itself19:45
syockitKDesk: somethings wrong with dpms then19:45
tarmathdtchen: ok doing that now...19:45
syockitKDesk: can you control brightness?19:45
leo_rockwayKDesk: yeah, I'd say reporting a bug is a good idea. That's not the expected behaviour at all.19:45
KDesksyockit: only from the monitor, not from the OS19:46
KDeskleo_rockway: where should I report that, launchpad?19:46
carlosmoraisi need a small help19:47
leo_rockwayKDesk: Launchpad, yes19:47
dtchentarmath: after you've removed it, restart your web browser.19:47
dtchentarmath: i presume you're using konqueror?19:47
leo_rockwayKDesk: provide as much information as you can when filing the bug report19:47
tarmathdtchen: firefox in fact...19:47
dtchentarmath: ok, then you'll need to restart all firefox instances19:47
syockitgtg19:47
dtchentarmath: also, make sure you only have *one* Flash plugin instance installed19:48
dtchentarmath: check with about:plugins19:48
tarmathdtchen: ok19:48
tarmathdtchen: restarting firefox..19:48
KDeskleo_rockway: do you know witch package is te affected? acpi, xset? dpms?19:48
dcxdtchen: I need to do the same as tarmath. How do I remove pulseaudio packages?19:48
diподскажите у менятормозит видео что делать?19:49
KDeskleo_rockway: The monitor goes off after 2s but goes afer 1s more on again (only the backlight)19:49
tarmathdcx: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio paman padevchooser paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter19:49
KDeskru @ di19:49
tarmathdtchen: looks good, only one flashplayer19:49
dcxTarmath: Thank you.19:49
KDesk!ru @ di19:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ru @ di19:49
KDeskhmm19:49
dtchentarmath: now, do you have an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ?19:50
KDesk!RU @ di19:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about RU @ di19:50
dtchentarmath: if so, please pastebin its/their contents19:50
Mamarok!ru | di19:50
ubottudi: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke19:50
tarmathdtchen: right. gotta delete that one too?19:50
KDesk!RU@di19:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about RU@di19:50
KDesk!RU19:50
MamarokKDesk: see above!19:50
KDeskhehe19:50
dtchentarmath: don't delete it yet; pastebin so i can inspect it19:50
disps19:51
tarmathdtchen: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio i followed these instructions so you can see exactly whats in the file19:51
leo_rockwayKDesk: this is old, but it may give you a hint: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/xset-dpms-force-off-doesnt-turn-off-screen-531977/19:51
tarmathdtchen: i had to create the file there wasn't anything in it before19:51
leo_rockwayKDesk: the problem has nothing to do with acpi in this case, because acpi just calls the xset dpms command19:51
KDeskleo_rockway: ah, ok, thanks for the link, I will look that :)19:52
dtchentarmath: mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.bak19:52
dtchentarmath: then restart firefox (again)19:53
tarmathdtchen: done19:53
ohhaiSound input on ASUS W3J laptop somehow doesn't work, even though the output does. Other people on forums claim that input works in their cases. What are the common diagnostics steps here?19:54
KDeskleo_rockway: with  "sudo vbetool dpms off"  it workes but only ones :|19:54
dtchenohhai: download and run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh19:55
leo_rockwayKDesk: you can include that in your bug report then19:55
dtchenohhai: then tell me the url it generates19:55
dtchentarmath: is sound audible on a web page w/ Flash?19:55
tarmathdtchen: nope... in fact I am back at the starting point before I tried to solve it with pulseaudio...19:56
KDeskleo_rockway: yes. Do you thing the package can be   libxcb-dpms0  or I shouldn't fill that?19:56
dtchentarmath: ok. please open a Konsole and tell me if sound is audible with `speaker-test -c2'19:57
dtchentarmath: you can stop speaker-test by interrupting it (ctrl+c)19:57
leo_rockwayKDesk: I'm not sure, but if you select the wrong package someone else can edit it later on19:57
ohhaidtchen: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=67cc56fa77815a09b1c515abc2160ffab4ff646919:57
tarmathdtchen: nope nothing...19:58
KDeskleo_rockway:  ah, ok, thanks.19:58
dtchentarmath: ok, let's check volumes.  please download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, save it to your Desktop, and run it in a Konsole with `bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh', then tell me the url it generates19:58
dtchenohhai: sec19:59
dikubuntu 8.10   gma 950 drivers20:00
tarmathdtchen: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a0a5250f3ce2080fee0ee7892ea73a064adb343520:01
dtchenohhai: looks like your mic boost and capture mixer controls aren't raised. in a Konsole, try: amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Mic Boost',0 100% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Capture',0 cap && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Capture',0 100%20:01
dtchenohhai: (yes, you can also accomplish the above via KMix, but it takes more fiddling. i prefer the cli.)20:02
ohhaidtchen: Me too. =)20:03
kaminixWhy are people working on getting uim 1.5.3 into jaunty when 1.5.5 is the latest stable release?  It was even published after 1.5.4 was released. :s20:03
KDeskAnother question... I have an ipod and music in ogg, so I transforme that to aac with soundkonverter, but when I want to tranfer them with amarok, it says "tracks not playable in media device" How can I transfer those aac audio files?20:04
ohhaidtchen: Any more reasonable way to test input than Audacity?20:04
dtchenkaminix: lack of manpower/other resources, more than likely20:04
dtchenkaminix: feel free to chip in! =)20:04
dtchenohhai: try arecord20:04
dtchentarmath: sec20:04
tarmathdtchen: hmm sound used to work in other apps through phonon but now its all gone...20:05
dtchentarmath: ah, your 'Master' and 'PCM' mixer controls are too low. in fact, the latter is set at zero.20:05
dcxTarmath, dtchen: Thank you.20:06
dcxciao20:06
dtchentarmath: in a konsole, try: amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Master',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'PCM',0 80%20:06
WishingMasterwhat is the command to install latest kde and what is the command to upgrade currently installed kernel?20:06
leo_rockwayKDesk: I cannot answer your question, but I could suggest that you look at rockbox20:06
dcxmy sound works now on my internet browser.20:06
ohhaidtchen: Same result. =(20:07
kaminixdtchen: I would, except I don't really know how to package stuff. =/20:07
KDeskleo_rockway: Rockbox doesn't support my ipod nano 4th G :( But thanks anyway20:07
dtchentarmath: you might also want: amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Surround',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Center',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'LFE',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Side',0 80%20:07
WishingMasterwhat is the command to install latest kde and what is the command to upgrade currently installed kernel?20:07
dtchenkaminix: we can help you with that; see #ubuntu-motu20:08
tarmathdtchen: sound back in youtube... !20:08
kaminixI'll look into it when things calm down at university. :) Thanks. :)20:08
WishingMasterwhat is the command to install latest kde and what is the command to upgrade currently installed kernel?20:09
tarmathdtchen: but amarok and dragonplayer keep crashing when they're trying to play music...20:09
leo_rockway!repeat | WishingMaster20:09
ubottuWishingMaster: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience20:09
WishingMasterleo_rockway, do u want me repeat my ques?20:10
ohhaidtchen: Save for Volume, what other approaches might one take?20:10
leo_rockwayWishingMaster: no, exactly the opposite20:10
WishingMasterok20:10
dtchenohhai: let me check the source code; give me a few minutes20:10
ohhaidtchen: (I'm confident in mic's integrity, tested it under Windows)20:10
leo_rockwayWishingMaster: just read what ubottu told you20:11
WishingMasterok20:11
dtchentarmath: try restarting KDE (just log out and back in)20:11
tarmathdtchen: ook20:12
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BentFrankInstalling NX 3.3 on Kubuntu 8.10 on my single Linux box.  I did nxserver --start.  Do I need to do a --nodeadd?  eg --nodeadd 127.0.0.1?20:15
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pietro_Hi I've installed for the first time kubuntu20:17
JVS13nice20:17
pietro_Audio doesn't work and wireless too20:18
pietro_I've a pavillion dv7-1024-el20:18
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tarmathdtchen: thanks lad everything works now!!20:25
dtchentarmath: yw20:26
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LynoureIs there a way to get Vista show on grub menu after it did not do that since the initial install of Kubuntu?20:27
kvhWhen I use my kvm back to kubuntu system, the mouse button order prefs goes back to right-hand; any idea how to fix?20:30
ohhaiditchen: =(20:32
ohhai*dtchen:20:32
ohhaiSorry, took it for German.20:32
stefanohello20:34
stefano!list20:34
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:34
pietro_noone can help me to find driver for my audio card?20:34
dtchenohhai: sec, been troubleshooting something in the audio stack20:34
dtchenohhai: (sorry, just being bombarded across multiple irc channels)20:34
dtchenpietro_: please run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh20:34
ohhai=) No problem.20:34
dtchenpietro_: (and please be patient, quite busy ATM)20:35
ohhai:) Sorry for bombarding. =)20:35
pietro_dtchen sorry20:35
s0101plz help me my desktop is bigger than my screen it has worked well before, but after i made some updates it says my screen is unknown i have a Philips lcd screen20:36
stefano!list20:37
s0101one guy told me how to update the nividia driver and i did, and after that i upgraded to ubuntu 8,10 from 8,04 and i still have the same shit with the screen20:38
s0101i am green with ubuntu plz help20:39
jussi01!ohmy | s010120:39
ubottus0101: Please watch your language, attitude, and topic to help keep this channel friendly and helpful. Remember, there are kids here!20:39
s0101sorry20:39
Walzmyns0101, i'm not using 8.10 - but look in system settings for a way to change your resolution20:40
dirus &&&20:40
Walzmyns0101, Kmenu->>system->>system settings20:40
diауууу ru?? ubuntu20:41
s0101i did but ihave less options than before 640*480 is the highest i have as a option20:41
stdin!ru | di20:42
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s0101it says screen unknown20:42
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s0101it seams to be a bug with 8.1020:44
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batatasazuisHello everyone20:47
batatasazuishey how do i mount my 2 ntsf drives? they aren't in media folder..20:51
[T]BludShoTI'm trying to install ATI drivers for my ATI 9700pro AIW card on 8.10, but when i go in Hardware Drivers it doesn't list any drivers20:53
dtchenohhai: ah, i think this is one of the SSIDs that regressed from gutsy20:54
dtchenohhai: instead of model=laptop-eapd, try model=3stack20:54
ohhaiohhai; In alsa-base?20:54
dtchenohhai: (you'll need to reboot)20:54
dtchenohhai: yes20:54
ohhaidtchen: Thanks, trying that.20:55
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s0101my desktop is bigger thanmy screen plz help21:03
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s0101i have been strugeling with this all day long21:03
Stalker72Have you tried auto-adjust on your monitor?21:03
s0101yes but that dosent help21:04
s0101and i checked in the system menu for the resolution it says that my screen is unknown21:04
Stalker72Did you install Hardware Drivers?21:05
s0101it started even before i uppgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 earlier today21:05
s0101not sure21:05
s0101were cani get those i have a philips lcd monitor21:05
Stalker72Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers21:05
Stalker72Click Activate21:05
Stalker72Then restart your PC21:06
s0101 it is activated21:06
s0101already21:06
Stalker72Hmm..21:06
s0101and i just got the new version with 8,1021:06
Stalker72Have you installed ALL updates?21:06
s0101yes i belive so is there any particular you are sugesting?21:07
Stalker72Not really. I just wanted to make sure.21:07
s0101ok21:08
s0101i can tell you how it started21:08
ohhaidtchen: Thanks, input started working. Output stopped though.21:08
Stalker72I'm no expert, sorry. I'm new to the Linux/Kubuntu world myself.21:08
s0101i had this screen disconected from the computer for 2 months and i connected it today and it worked fine until i did a normal system update i had to cancel in the middle due to slow internet and i restarted after that it said i can only use the comp with low graph21:09
Stalker72KDE 4.2 is out in 2 days.21:10
Stalker72There are thousands of bugfixes. Maybe you'll have some luck. ;)21:10
s0101i did and a guy from here told me how to upgrade nividia driver and i did a little bit better but not perfekt and after that i upgraded to 8.10 and it looked like before i upgraded nividia21:11
s0101:(21:11
shadeslayerStalker72: really?? KDE 4.2 in 2days21:12
shadeslayerive been out of touch21:12
Stalker72shadeslayer: www.kde.org .. It's going to be exciting21:13
s0101my highest res is 640*48021:14
Stalker72I had that problem before, but it got fixed when I installed the Nvidia driver.21:15
Stalker72It was long ago.21:15
shadeslayerooh21:15
shadeslayer2 more das21:15
shadeslayer*days21:15
shadeslayercant wait21:15
Stalker72:)21:15
Stalker72me neither21:15
Stalker72my new PC runs Kubuntu flawlessly! :D21:16
shadeslayersame here21:17
ohhaidtchen: http://pastebin.com/m28c60fe9 that's the new alsa-info. =(21:17
Stalker72load average is about 0.75 :P21:17
shadeslayerhad alot of problems with KDE4.1 though21:17
Stalker72KDE 4.2 will be good and stable!21:17
shadeslayeryeah21:17
shadeslayerhopefully21:17
Stalker72Is Load Average the CPU load average?21:17
shadeslayernever checked lol21:18
Stalker72what CPU do you have?21:18
shadeslayerT810021:18
Stalker72never heard of it21:18
shadeslayerim in Vista right now21:18
Stalker72Intel, AMD?21:18
shadeslayer:O21:18
shadeslayerIntel21:18
Stalker72how old is it?21:18
shadeslayerlast year21:18
Stalker72is there another name for it?21:19
shadeslayeri have the Dell XPS M153021:19
shadeslayernope21:19
shadeslayerits called the T810021:19
Stalker72ok21:19
blackbirdhi i need your help : http://rafb.net/p/m4lOcV65.html21:19
Stalker72have you heard of Nehalem (i7)?21:19
shadeslayeryeah21:19
shadeslayerhave you heard pricey21:19
Stalker72it crunches through Kubuntu, hehe21:19
Stalker72I got the cheapest one21:19
Stalker7292021:19
shadeslayermmmmm21:20
shadeslayercustom build??21:20
Stalker72yes21:20
Stalker72my 2nd one21:20
shadeslayercool21:20
Stalker72do you run Kubuntu too?21:20
shadeslayerthen you must have GDDR321:20
shadeslayeryeah21:20
Stalker72yup21:20
blackbirdwhy wvdialconf can't detect the smartlink modem even after installation ?21:20
Stalker72blackbird: forums.ubuntu.com21:20
Stalker72blackbird: There you can get help from experts21:21
shadeslayercool21:21
shadeslayerBTW i have to sleep21:21
[T]BludShoTdell xps m1530 has an intel core 2 duo21:21
shadeslayerbye21:21
Stalker72cya21:21
shadeslayeryeah21:21
shadeslayerits a T810021:21
shadeslayerC2D21:21
[T]BludShoTi'd say that's another name for it heh21:21
Stalker72ooh :P21:21
shadeslayeroh21:21
Stalker72I've heard of it then ofc21:21
shadeslayerlol21:22
Stalker72I'm a geek! :P21:22
s0101Anybody who knows how to correct the desktop size in 8.10 or is there a special channel for 8.1021:22
shadeslayeryouve heard of C2D but not of the T series21:22
Stalker72yeah21:22
shadeslayerthis is the only channel21:22
Stalker72I would try the forums21:22
Stalker72forums.ubuntu.com21:22
shadeslayeruh *.kubuntu.com21:22
shadeslayerbye21:23
s0101i have ubuntu 8.1021:23
Stalker72bye21:23
shadeslayeror ill get caught up again21:23
shadeslayerthen #Ubuntu21:23
s0101cheers21:23
Stalker72many more ppl there :P21:23
shadeslayerbye21:23
Stalker72bye21:23
shadeslayeryeah21:23
shadeslayerbye21:23
Stalker72where do I find the effects settings?21:24
harjothelp please21:26
shadeslayerStalker72: in Kubuntu??21:26
shadeslayer:P21:26
shadeslayerharjot: dont ask to aks21:26
shadeslayer*ask21:26
Stalker72shadeslayer: yes21:26
shadeslayerjust ask21:26
harjotok21:27
shadeslayerK>system settings>Desktop21:27
harjothow do i emulate a linux program for windoze21:27
Stalker72thx21:27
Stalker72Wine21:27
shadeslayeropposite of wine21:27
Stalker72sudo apt-get install wine21:27
Stalker72www.winehq.org21:27
shadeslayeroh21:27
shadeslayeryeah21:27
shadeslayeradd them to the repos21:27
shadeslayer!wine21:28
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help21:28
shadeslayerthere you go21:28
harjotno i have kubuntu but i want a program on it to work for windows21:28
Stalker72I don't think that's possible21:28
shadeslayeryeah,i thought you meant that21:28
Stalker72unlike there's a Windows port for it21:28
shadeslayer:P21:28
harjoti have heard of cygwin21:28
shadeslayer!cygwin21:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cygwin21:29
shadeslayernothing21:29
harjotbut dont no how to use it21:29
SlimeyPetecygwin includes quite a lot of unix ports21:29
SlimeyPeteharjot: just download it and run it under Windows21:29
SlimeyPeteit includes a helpful installer21:29
SlimeyPetebut it doesn't run all linux apps - just the ones which have been ported by the cygwin project21:29
harjotbut if i want it to be a program that you just click and it loads my program under cygwin21:29
SlimeyPetecygwin doesn't work like that.21:30
stdinsome KDE apps work in windows21:30
SlimeyPetethe program must be re-compiled from source, and possibly altered to use the cygwin libraries.21:30
stdinnatively21:30
harjotthat the problem21:30
kvhWhen I use my kvm back to kubuntu system, the mouse button order prefs goes back to right-hand (although prefs still show left-hand); any idea how to fix?21:30
SlimeyPetewhich program is it?21:30
harjotvym21:30
harjot?21:31
SlimeyPeteharjot: the mind-mapper?21:31
harjotyes21:31
Stalker72KWin pwns Compiz Fusion!! :D21:31
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harjot!vym21:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about vym21:31
harjotmind mapper21:32
Stalker72how do I auto-align icons at desktop?21:32
Rhiadohey, I've got some questions about changing resolution on my computer, can I get some advice?21:32
Stalker72and auto-arrange21:32
Stalker72Rhiado: sure21:32
RhiadoI've read the man page, and the wiki, and I'm... a bit lost.21:32
SlimeyPeteharjot: I don't think there's a Windows or Cygwin port for that21:33
SlimeyPeteyou'd have to make your own21:33
blackbirdplz any help21:33
harjothHOW/?????????21:33
RhiadoI've tried the instructions there, but... nothing happens other than a set of instructions for using the config tool, I'm not getting any response.21:33
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SlimeyPeteharjot: do you know how to program in C++ ?21:34
stdinit's a qt4 app, it should work on windows21:34
Stalker72sry guys, g2g.. cya21:34
harjotslimypete: no21:34
SlimeyPeteor at least to compile C++ on Windows21:34
SlimeyPetethen you can't do it yourself, sorry21:34
harjotnope21:34
harjotdo u know hhow to?21:35
SlimeyPeteNo. I can program, but not in C++ and I've never tried cross-compiling.21:35
SlimeyPeteor porting21:35
harjoti can do basic21:35
SlimeyPeteyou may need to look for an alternative piece of software, for instance FreeMind21:36
harjoti can do the same as u21:36
batatasazuisHello everyone, why can't i see my 2 other hard drives? they're in ntfs21:36
harjotdamn21:36
barbar__conanhow nice21:36
barbar__conan:)21:36
harjotok thanks bye21:36
SlimeyPetesorry I couldn't be more helpful, harjot21:36
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Rhiadobatatasazuis:  did you set up your install to be able to recognize ntfs?21:38
stdinharjot: you can download QtCreator (ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtcreator/qtcreator-0.9.1-beta-windows-setup.exe) and then download the source for vym (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/vym/vym-1.12.2.tar.bz2?modtime=1225292340&big_mirror=0) and then open it in creator and click the compile button21:38
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stdinyou man need something like WinRAR to open the .tar.bz2 archive21:39
WishingMaster!21:42
\Kirahow can I install dekorator?21:42
WishingMaster\Kira, apt-get install dekorator21:45
blackbirdu must have the pachage \Kira21:45
blackbirdpackage*21:45
\KiraWishingMaster: cant find package21:46
\Kirablackbird: why?21:46
WishingMasterdid u use dpkg -l21:46
\KiraWishingMaster: no, whats that do?21:46
\Kirakira@Uplink:~$ dpkg -l dekorator21:47
\KiraNo packages found matching dekorator.21:47
WishingMasterhmmmm21:47
blackbirdpick it from the net \Kira21:47
WishingMasterdownload it21:48
\Kiraugh... Okay,21:48
\Kirathanks anyways21:48
stdin!info kwin-style-dekorator21:49
ubottukwin-style-dekorator (source: kwin-style-dekorator): windows decoration for kde using user-supplied PNG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1 (intrepid), package size 173 kB, installed size 420 kB21:49
firatkmerhabalar türk varmı?21:49
stdin\Kira: that ^ ?21:49
stdin!tr21:49
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.21:49
WishingMasterthanks stdin21:49
jammen33!de21:50
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.21:50
\KiraOh, I think thats it :)21:50
WishingMasteryup21:50
\Kirayes, its downloading. Thanks :D21:51
WishingMasterpeace21:51
stdinthe KDE4 version is in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA repository21:53
acid_burn[2009-01-25 22:50] <jammen33> !de21:53
acid_burn[2009-01-25 22:50] <ubottu> In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.21:53
acid_burn[2009-01-25 22:50] <\Kira> Oh, I think thats it :)21:53
acid_burn[2009-01-25 22:50] <WishingMaster> yup21:53
acid_burn[2009-01-25 22:51] <\Kira> yes, its downloading. Thanks :D21:53
\Kiraacid_burn: ?21:53
WishingMasterwhat r u trying to do acid_burn21:53
acid_burnsorry Imistook21:54
jammen33flood?21:54
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kinuxhi21:58
jillsmitthi, I use Koffice, want to know what kind percent of >>*.doc saving formating and others21:59
jillsmittif i save my document in *.doc22:00
cocontmihello all!22:05
DexterFhi22:06
acid_burnbonsoir22:06
cocontmineed some help... i have ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu as sessions.. and i can switch to either by logging off... anyways my problem is w/kde22:06
cocontmihow do i change hdd settings to automount? it automounts in xfce and gnome fine22:07
DexterFinstalled 8.10 in vmware workstation 6.5.0 (linux host), vmware tools installer says "no driver for xorg 7.4.2". so tools work but it cant resize the display and such. what are my options?22:07
DexterFcocontmi: internal hdds or external?22:08
cocontmiinternal partitions... and hard drives...22:08
cocontmii have kde 4.. the testing one nightly22:09
cocontmineon22:09
Guest64145Hello guys22:15
Guest64145I tried to install compiz in kubuntu 8.1022:15
Guest64145and i cannot see the minimiza button and maximize button and kill button in the frame of all windows22:15
Guest64145Can anyone help me?22:16
Guest64145ooo i forgot, this happens when i run compiz only22:16
jammen33do you see any of the window decoration22:16
Guest64145would that be those buttons i am talking about22:17
Guest64145i only see the File Edit ....22:17
jammen33ok so no22:17
jammen33in konsole enter   kde-window-decorator22:19
Guest64145haha command not found22:20
Guest64145i guess i erased it22:20
Guest64145i have kubuntu22:20
pietro_hi guys, I solved the problem with my wireless card installing system upgrades and installing wicd, but I have trouble with audio yet. If I play a song by amarock I ear the sound repeating more and more time the same fragment22:20
pietro_s22:20
jammen33sun sudo apt-get install compiz-kde22:21
jammen33run*22:21
Guest64145compiz-kde already newest version22:23
khalidmianlooking to seek answer on why i cant see other ppl cam on yahoo via kopete22:23
Guest64145by the way thanks jammen 3322:24
Guest64145but after the last code i got that compiz-kde is at its newest version22:24
Guest64145if i type Kwin --replace22:24
Guest64145i get back kubuntu default wdw decorations22:25
khalidmianhow do i check kde version22:25
jammen33Guest64145: what kubuntu are you using 8.10?22:26
Guest64145yes jammen22:26
mefisto__pietro_: what if you play the song in console with mplayer? same problem? mplayer /path/to/song/mysong.mp322:27
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alinehello22:27
SlimeyPeteGuest64145: you have KDE 4.222:27
Guest64145Yes22:28
SlimeyPeteerm, sorry, 4.122:28
alinehammmmmmmmmm22:28
alineboiei22:28
alinetoma no cu22:29
alinealabi num sabi quem sabe no no  num foi o bim ladi nao22:30
jammen33Guest64145: do you have emerald installed?22:30
Guest64145Jammen 33 I FIx it!!!22:30
Guest64145thank you so much22:31
khalidmianlooking to seek answer on why i cant see other ppl cam on yahoo via kopete pls help/advise22:31
jon_high9000hi there. i am a "newbie" where KDE is concerned and i accidentally closed the desktop plasma app unintentionally. is there anyway to bring it back?22:31
jammen33Guest64145: what did you do?22:31
Guest64145it was a problem where the file was located22:31
Guest64145haha /usr/bin/....           not22:31
KDeskIs possible to transfer AAC audio files from Amarok to an iPod?22:31
Guest64145kde-window-decorator ....22:31
Guest64145in other words compiz could not find the right file22:32
Guest64145cause I stupidly put the wrong file address22:32
Guest64145thanks so much!!22:32
Guest64145Jammen 3322:32
jammen33Guest64145: ur welcome22:32
Guest64145:)22:32
Guest64145later22:32
jammen33jon_high9000: try alt+F222:33
jammen33jon_high9000: and run plasma22:33
jon_high9000jammen33: no luck22:34
jon_high9000i am running kubuntu 8.1022:35
jammen33so the plasma desktop is not running?22:35
jon_high9000jammen33: the dialogue screen came up when i tried your idea but that was it.22:36
jon_high9000jammen33: it was more than i could get it to do.22:37
mefisto__jon_high9000: did you type "plasma" in the dialog?22:38
jon_high9000jammen33: yes i did.22:38
jammen33jon_high9000: have you tried loging out and loging back in22:38
jon_high9000yes22:39
jammen33jon_high9000: try alt+f2 type in "konsole" and then in konsole try running "plasma"22:40
jon_high9000ok22:40
seanhey guys, anyone know a way I can able my scroll to scroll (lemme explain)22:41
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mefisto__khalidmian: to get kopete to recieve webcam, I think you need to do port forwarding in your router for the port kopete is using to receive the webcam22:41
jon_high9000what command do i use in konsole?22:41
jammen33jon_high9000" plasma22:41
Guest41106right now the wheel works but I like it better when i middle click the wheel and drag up or down to scroll22:41
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khalidmiantrying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/fluidballs.desktop', which is also in package kscreensaver-xsavers-extra22:42
khalidmiandpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)22:42
khalidmianErrors were encountered while processing:22:42
khalidmian /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-xsavers_4%3a4.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_i386.deb22:42
khalidmianE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)22:42
khalidmianany help22:42
jon_high9000jammen33: checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0xfdc030 6710886522:42
jon_high9000checkComposite: Plasma can use COMPOSITE for effects on 0xfd327022:43
jon_high9000jammen33: that was wat i got back22:43
HiryuI'm using 8.10 and the network manager doesn't work with my static lan ip at all... I can put in the settings and it refuses to connect. I finally had to put a static entry into /etc/network/interfaces (this is a fresh install)22:45
Hiryuis this normal?22:46
jammen33jon_high9000: ok in konsole try mv .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc.bak && plasma22:47
pietro_mefisto__ with mplayer it works,22:48
mefisto__pietro_: so the problem is with amarok22:49
alinekkskskkskksksk22:49
cllaudyuhow can i see grapfic setings22:49
jammen33jon_high9000: any luck?22:49
alinemother22:49
jon_high9000none22:49
cllaudyuhow can i disable rhe graphic22:49
jammen33jon_high9000: you tried "mv .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc.bak && plasma"22:50
cllaudyui want to switch all the graphics to off how will i do that22:50
cllaudyuall22:51
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cllaudyuhow to do it?22:51
jammen33cllaudyu: system settings>Desktop> and uncheck use desktop effects22:51
cllaudyuif i press ctrl alt f12 what will hapen22:52
jon_high9000jammen33: copied and pasted you commands and this is what i got back. mv: cannot stat `.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc': No such file or directory22:52
Hiryushould that be .kde4?22:53
cllaudyuthe system crashes often and i want to disable the graphics to zero is in desktop setings all the graphic setings?22:53
d0kt0rNHello, I've been using Ubuntu from quite some while but after realizing that gnome sucks balls I switched to kubuntu, It's all been very smooth, but when I edit files with vim I don't seem to have toe same keybindings like in ubuntu. for instant, I can't add text. i used to just press the <INSERT> key on my computer, like it should be. is this something they changed in Kubunu? I would be glad to get some help. Please!22:53
jammen33jon_high9000: ok try "mv .kde .kdebak && plasma"22:54
cllaudyu!plasma22:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about plasma22:54
jammen33cllaudyu: i believe so22:54
cllaudyu!graphic22:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about graphic22:54
cllaudyu!cpu22:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cpu22:54
d0kt0rN!vim22:55
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code22:55
jon_high9000jammen33: <unknown program name>(15103)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0xabc030 2306867322:55
Hiryuneat, nano in (k)ubuntu supports the mouse wheel22:56
Hiryuno it seems the konsole does22:56
jammen33jon_high9000: are you using kde4.1 or 4.2?22:56
jon_high9000running kubuntu 8.1022:56
jammen33ok22:56
mefisto__the renaming of .kde should be done when not logged in to KDE22:57
khalidmiani always geet error whilst trying to install kscreensaver22:57
jon_high9000jammen33: sorry about this.22:57
khalidmianRunning dpkg,22:58
khalidmian    [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --unpack, /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-xsavers-extra_4-0x1.51ff4bfb76b24p-1504.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_i386.deb ],22:58
khalidmian    Sup-process returned error code 1,22:58
khalidmian    Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-xsavers-extra_4%3a4.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_i386.deb : trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/fluidballs.desktop', which is also in package kscreensaver-xsavers.22:58
khalidmianany help?22:58
jon_high9000jammen33: it is 64 bit OS22:59
jammen33jon_high9000: have u tried running updates?23:02
jammen33jon_high9000: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"23:02
khalidmianseems as if im talking to walls23:03
jon_high9000jammen33: did those earlier today.23:03
jammen33jon_high9000: that might be the problem23:03
jon_high9000ok23:03
jammen33jon_high9000: they might have broken something23:03
jon_high9000you think a clean install might be wirth trying?23:04
mefisto__khalidmian: what are you installing? how are you installing it?23:04
jammen33jon_high9000: try "cd && mv .kde/share/config/plasmarc .kde/share/config/plasmarc.bak && plasma"23:06
jon_high9000jammen33: mv: cannot stat `.kde/share/config/plasmarc': No such file or directory23:08
jammen33jon_high9000: idk im out of ideas23:08
psycohow do I make it so that when when i middle click the wheel and drag up or down to scroll (firefox)23:09
jon_high9000jammen33: sorry about this. thanks for trying anyhow.23:09
jammen33jon_high9000: np23:09
jammen33psyco: in firefox in the addressbar type"about:config"23:10
wesley_My harddrive makes sounds like --- --- --- --- ------ -----------23:10
mefisto__psyco: turn on "autoscrolling" in firefox prefs23:10
jammen33wesley_: is that clicking?23:10
Hiryuhmm... system doesn't recognize nfs... wtf23:10
mefisto__psyco: advanced tab, general23:10
jon_high9000jammen33: I will put the disc in and run it.23:10
jammen33jon_high9000: ok good lucl23:11
jammen33luck*23:11
jon_high9000jammen33: later23:11
jammen33jon_high9000: later23:11
psycomefisto__: AWESOME!23:11
wesley_jammen33 yes clicking or thicking23:11
psycomefisto__: ugh the scroll icon is ugly, where do I change it?23:12
jammen33wesley_: you might want to backup your data23:12
wesley_Likes it got something to say ( doesnt boot up anymore the hd )23:12
mefisto__psyco: don't know if you can23:12
psycolol alright, maybe there is a different cursor theme23:12
wesley_Most is backed up only the newer downloads not :(23:12
jammen33wesley: if it doesnt boot i think your harddrive is dead23:13
Tinasonkde 4.2 is released tomorrow. how long b4 it hits repositories?23:13
caustinAnyone running on the kubuntu-experimental stuff?23:13
HiryuI thought 4.2 was already out... shows what I know23:13
caustinHiryu: It was 4.2rc123:14
Hiryuah23:14
wesley_jammen33 it started like this, kde did hang, harddrive was making strange sounds, few reboots, but didnt went any better23:15
wesley_So now it does thick there loads nonthing, hd 1 month old23:15
surgyi just instyalled a printer and kubuntu found the driver, its and epson stylus 4450 with a flatbed scanenr made on. what software can i use to scan images?23:16
surgy?23:16
wesley_i wonder why my usb boot gives boot errors23:17
surgyanyone?23:19
leo_rockwaysurgy: xsane23:19
leo_rockwaysurgy: kooka (it's KDE3)23:19
surgyi  have kooka23:20
surgyand when i try to "select scan device" it does absolutely nothing23:20
surgyand xsane doesnt pick anything up at all...23:20
leo_rockwaythen drivers for the scanner are not installed23:21
Tinasonkde 4.2 is released tomorrow. how long b4 it hits repositories?23:22
surgyumm then how do i set up the drivers for the scanner? and why would there be different drivers for ther printer and scanner?23:22
aeonorisI can't find a (windows) driver for my wireless card, because I can't figure out what card it IS (it doesn't have any company brands on it).  So now, since Kubuntu's internet works, I'm trying to find out a way to tell what the card is with Kubuntu.  Is there one?23:23
surgyok well this is incredibly gay, why would there be a printer driver and no scanner driver for a scanner/printer....23:24
aeonorisPerhaps it's a generic printer driver that doesn't have scanner support...?23:25
surgyno23:25
surgykubuntu reported that it found the driver for the "Epson Stylus CX4450" which is exactly what my printer says on the top23:25
aeonorisHum.23:26
surgyyeah fuck this23:28
surgylooks like micro soft wins again23:28
surgythnx guys23:28
oobesurgy, try running xsane with sudo23:28
leo_rockwaytroll23:28
leo_rockwayaeonoris: lspci23:28
surgyoobe: no luck23:28
surgyand i needed the scanner ten minutes ago23:29
oobethat guy was a doofus23:29
aeonorisleo_rockway, thanks a lot!  I was trying to figure out this card for over an hour...23:29
leo_rockwayoobe: yeah, I won't waste my time helping people like him23:30
leo_rockwayaeonoris: ls is a *nix command that lists23:30
leo_rockwayaeonoris: so you have ls (which is like DOS' dir) and then you have lsusb, lspci, lshw, lsmod, etc23:31
aeonorisleo_rockway, nice trick, I'll remember it, thanks.23:32
* kaddi is happy because she managed to solve the problem, for which she was going to ask for advice, on her own :D23:33
SlimeyPetealways a good feeling :)23:33
seb_Hi guys,23:34
kaddijust out of curiosity though: is there a command that will empty the cache of aptitude?23:34
leo_rockwayaeonoris: yeah, no prob...23:34
leo_rockwaykaddi: \o/23:34
SlimeyPetekaddi: aptitude clean23:34
oobeaeonoris, try this  lspci -vv | grep  Network23:34
seb_does anybody know how to show back the Knetworkmanager applet in the right down corner?23:34
oobeif you have a pci wifi that is23:35
kaddiSlimeyPete: thanks :) Good to know :)23:36
seb_hello, thet's my first time here, so i don't know howitworks23:36
oobeseb_, are you using kde4 or kde323:36
seb_kde323:37
seb_i mae a bad control yesterday and since that point I have no applet: battery, network, kmix.all gone...23:37
leo_rockwayseb_: alt + f2 and run knetworkmanager23:37
seb_that's done23:38
leo_rockwayoh, it seems that your whole systray is gone23:38
ooberight click ur taskbar and click add applet to pannel23:39
seb_I have reinstalled (since one hour) Kthinbat, it works for the battery, but now I'm stuck searching what was my error23:39
oobethen search for systray23:39
oobethen add it23:39
seb_ok I'm doing23:39
seb_I can not find systray23:40
oobesorry its system tray23:41
oobejust type system23:42
seb_ok23:42
seb_i just have (the menu is in french cause I am) system menu, system monitoring and print system23:43
oobewell that may not be the problem then23:46
seb_ok, thank you I will try to solve that after. Thank you again23:48
=== pan_ is now known as pan__
=== sparklingshrew is now known as shinygerbil
Rhiadoanyone here good with tweaking the resolution on ubuntu?23:59

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