[00:00] <ghostcube> Papfox, you mean some garbaged new created windows ?
[00:00] <ghostcube> and an frozen log out image ?
[00:01] <ghostcube> bug 254468
[00:02] <ghostcube> oO
[00:03] <Papfox> Currently running Kdebase 4.1.4ununtu1~intrepid2. Garbage in newly created windows for a couple of seconds is a symptom - not sure if it was relevant. Not getting frozen logout image.
[00:04] <ghostcube> nvidia 180x ?
[00:04] <ghostcube> but doesnt matter this is a problem inside kubuntu and fc10
[00:04] <ghostcube> moment
[00:04] <Papfox> The biggest pain is that if I have SecondLife running and I bring up Firefox over it to look something up scrolling renders the scrolled portion of th epage unreadable.
[00:05] <marcel> library libncurses.so.5 exist, how can i find documentation about it ?
[00:05] <ghostcube> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/254468
[00:05] <Papfox> nvidia 177
[00:06] <walbert> Hey folks.  I'm doing some work on a project that uses GTK under Kubuntu, and I'd like to be able to change my gtk themes around.  I installed gtk-engine-* and gtk-theme-switch2, but i still only get the default options of Qt4 and Raleigh.  What am I doing wrong?
[00:07] <Papfox> That bug looks liek one of the problems but it's the scrolling corruption that is driving em mad.
[00:07] <Papfox> Should I try nvidia 180?
[00:08] <Papfox> I can see it in Synaptic but not in the Hardware Drivers tool.
[00:10] <ghostcube> Papfox, wouldnt help but afaik this should get into SRU as ScottK told in the bug report
[00:10] <ghostcube> stable release upgrade
[00:11] <dsnaike> Papfox i had same problem upgraded to kde4.2 it worked for me
[00:12] <Papfox> Is 4.2 in one of the repos? If so which one?
[00:12] <jammen33> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[00:12] <jammen33> i think
[00:13] <dsnaike> Papfox www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1 will give u whats needed
[00:13] <ghostcube> in 2 days the final comes out
[00:13] <ghostcube> maybe wait this two days :)
[00:14] <Papfox> Thanks guys. I'll do that. WHen is it due to go mainstream?
[00:16] <jammen33> teh 28thish ithink
[00:19] <Papfox> Is that when it will find its way into the standard repos (I have backports and proposed turned on)
[00:19] <jammen33> ithink it wont be relised on intrepid
[00:19] <jammen33> u'll have to use the ppa
[00:20] <jammen33> or go to jaunty
[00:21] <Papfox> Thanks. The other option would be to give KDE4 up as a bad job. Is it possible to go back to KDE3 on Intrepid?
[00:21] <jammen33> no
[00:21] <jammen33> it was a kde4 only
[00:21] <jammen33> you would have to go back to 8.04
[00:21] <ghostcube> Papfox, hmm kde 4.2 will be fine
[00:21] <ghostcube> more options
[00:22] <jammen33> im using kde4.2 now and it works great
[00:22] <ghostcube> and the video problem  is not kde related
[00:22] <Papfox> Do you know what it is if it's not KDE?
[00:23] <ghostcube> an error in xorg
[00:23] <ghostcube> but the nvidia 180 drivers from repo would be better too for your card
[00:24] <ghostcube> can anyone confirm that sorting the items in kde 4.x in k-menu classic isnt working
[00:24] <ghostcube> it doesnt take care of the menu editor ?
[00:25] <Papfox> Thanks :) Ghostcube, do you know if a bug has been filed against this in xorg?
[00:25] <ghostcube> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/254468
[00:25] <dsnaike> Papfox what decorator is in use kwib,compiz is good gtk will cause your problems to
[00:26] <Papfox> Thanks
[00:28] <Papfox> @dsnaike, I'm not sure what you mean. What is a decorator and how do I find out?
[00:29] <BattleStarJesus> I'm running Kubuntu with the Nvidia driver (version 177.82), I have using Compiz-Fusion and Emerald.  When I open video media with any media player it plays, but when I try to enable full-screen or try to play the next video in a playlist, the player shuts down. What is causing this to happen and how do I resolve it?
[00:29] <dsnaike> is compiz installed
[00:30] <Papfox> Loads of compiz packages installed.
[00:31] <dsnaike> fusion icon to
[00:31] <marcel> i find ncurses docu on google instead of man -k ncurses , yeah..., :)
[00:31] <Papfox> (Is that what is trapping CTRL-ALT-SHIFT and the arrows in Gnome? It's interfering with Secondlife)
[00:32] <Papfox> I can't see any icons in the bar that say they are compiz
[00:32] <dsnaike> I use compiz fusion icon to load kwin or compiz decorator gtk causes video problems
[00:33] <dsnaike> use synaptic or adept to install fusion icon easy way to control everything
[00:35] <Papfox> Is that the compiz-kde package?
[00:35] <dsnaike> yes
[00:36] <dsnaike> but go thru the list and select what you need
[00:38] <Papfox> Will that cause the CTRL_ALT_SHIFT_arrows to be trapped like in Gnome?
[00:39] <dsnaike> if what will cause it
[00:41] <Papfox> Installing compiz on KDE? SOmething is trapping that key combo in Gnome (thought it might be compiz) to switch workspaces. It's a killer for Secondlife as that is one of the key combos that moves the camera
[00:42] <dsnaike> use ctrl-alt-mousebutton1
[00:43] <Papfox> Thanks :)
[00:44] <dsnaike> Papfox there are more progs and games than key combinations they overlap
[00:44] <ghostcube> Papfox, sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common
[00:44] <ghostcube> if anything is missing :)
[00:45] <dsnaike> fusion icon
[00:45] <Papfox> Just as long as I can change that key combo if I need :)
[00:46] <ghostcube> hmm not the best way for startup only for comtroööing
[00:46] <ghostcube> controlling
[00:46] <dsnaike> yes in compiz settings manager
[00:47] <Papfox> ALT-arrows, CTRL-ALT-arrows and CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-arrows are the camera control functions and if you use SL you use them all the time.
[00:48] <dsnaike> compiz allows u to change combos
[00:48] <ghostcube> or just use kwin for gaming
[00:48] <ghostcube> :)
[00:48] <dsnaike> perfect gostcube
[00:48] <dsnaike> ghostcube
[00:57] <no1peacedragon> I had KDE4 crash last night while installing updates and ran a backtrace, it responded invalid backtrace what does that mean just curious
[00:58] <Papfox> Thanks everyone :)
[01:03] <no1peacedragon> guess it only happens to me
[01:06] <Kuaera> Hello; I was wondering if there was any way of getting alternate icons for layouts in the KDE Keyboard Layout Switcher, as US Qwerty and US Dvorak look the same
[01:07] <etfb> Should I be worried that my dmesg dump includes the line "apm: BIOS not found"?
[01:12] <byteme_> I have a friend that wants to try kubuntu
[01:13] <byteme_> and I am hes. to give him kde 4.1.1 as in my opinion it harder to use than 3.5
[01:14] <byteme_> 4.1 to me is overly complex for a simple operation that would be less clicks in 3.5
[01:14] <byteme_> am I thinking wrong? after all 3.5 is on its way out
[01:15] <mefisto__> byteme_: nothing wrong with that thinking. I'd agree
[01:16] <byteme_> I just built him a great system and he will be dual booting
[01:17] <mefisto__> byteme_: you could give your friend kubuntu hardy (which has kde3) and install kde4 from ppa repo for a taste of things to come
[01:17] <byteme_> I told like to give away anything but the latest stuff, but I feel I will be getting a ton more 'help me & how to' calls with 4.1
[01:18] <byteme_> yeah, good idea
[01:19] <mefisto__> byteme_: then you'll have the opportunity to help with the upgrade to 9.04 when kde4 will hopefully be more mature
[01:19] <byteme_> yeah sweet
[01:20] <hec_> hello @ all, need help to configure my wlan card in kubuntu 8.10
[01:21] <hec_> with the network manager i dont find a network
[01:21] <byteme_> its funny I am beta testing Windows 7 for M$... and the start bar is a complete rip off the KDE task bar
[01:22] <byteme_> (3.5 version)
[01:22] <byteme_> it's a spoofed up version of Vista
[01:22] <jammen33> nice
[01:23] <byteme_> the start bar id even partially trasparent
[01:23] <jammen33> well at least their copying something good
[01:24] <byteme_> I wonder when they will ever get an original idea
[01:24] <jammen33> 3033?
[01:24] <byteme_> they used to have so many cool new stuff, now they copy Linux and MAC
[01:24] <byteme_> true
[01:24] <jammen33> is their still there
[01:25] <byteme_> ?
[01:25] <jammen33> if MS is still around in 3033
[01:25] <hec_> has nobody a tip for me?
[01:25] <byteme_> lol, got yeah
[01:26] <byteme_> hec_: is it a fresh install?
[01:26] <etfb> *** I just made my sound work!!!!
[01:26] <hec_> yes, with the updates per cable
[01:26] <etfb> How the hell did I do that???
[01:26] <etfb> Weird!
[01:26] <hec_> i se the card with lspci
[01:27] <etfb> I think it was the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel!
[01:27] <etfb> Now how do I make that persistent for the next time I boot?  Does anyone know?
[01:27] <mister-tea-lapto> add it to grub
[01:27] <byteme_> should be auto, but i have seen where it wasnt and I forgot the command
[01:28] <etfb> mister-tea-lapto: How so?  I presume it's an option like splash and... all the rest that I don't recall.  But what syntax?
[01:28] <byteme_> can one have 8.10 with kde 3.5? where are the options, man??!!
[01:29] <byteme_> I want my freedom
[01:29] <mister-tea-lapto> I had the same problem with a different card and I just added the modprobe line to my grub
[01:29] <jammen33> byteme_: i dont think so, unless you compile from source
[01:29] <etfb> byteme_: Looks like they don't want you using 3.5 any more.  I don't blame them -- supporting two versions is a pain.  But it's bad for those of us who don't like waiting for the basics to work....
[01:30] <jammen33> or those with old computers
[01:30] <byteme_> yeah, exactly. I love the look of 4.1, but IMO it just isnt ready (for me)
[01:31] <etfb> You want irony?  The first YouTube I opened to check that the sound worked there had had its audio disabled because of copyright...
[01:31] <etfb> The second one worked though.
[01:31] <byteme_> lol
[01:33] <etfb> So, refresh my memory here.  Modprobe does... what?  Activates an inactive module in the kernel, right?
[01:33] <etfb> Or does it install it, like loading a DLL in Windows?
[01:34] <Dr_willis> probes a module
[01:34] <Dr_willis> module = kernel driver
[01:34] <Dr_willis> modprobe networkcarddriver.ko     -> loads that driver for whatever device
[01:35] <etfb> Ah, Dr_willis -- good to see you.  My memory may be hazy, but it seems any time I've solved a problem in Linux, you've had a hand in it somewhere.  So tell me, if modprobe snd-hda-intel is the command to make my sound miraculously start working, what do I need to edit so I get that effect every time I reboot?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> !modules
[01:36] <Dr_willis> its supposed to auto load.. hal is suppose to handle that i think.. or theres a modules file that autoloads stuff also
[01:36] <Dr_willis> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[01:38] <etfb> Dr_willis: That was it!  I remember seeing that file, but couldn't recall the name.  /etc/modules is too simple - it should be something like /etc/splinge-0.0.23.8492d/wibble.rc/03-flurbnax.fdi and be stored in a cryptic XML format...
[01:40] <etfb> Rebooting it now... let's see if it makes pretty noises at me...
[01:40] <Dr_willis> that would be windows.. only it would be in  c:/Windows/Winlibs/win32/system32/stuff/local/roaming/cssid-1234-213-5243-51-234-5245-234-234-65-32453425234-23432-5
[01:43] <etfb> Well it works, although for some reason it started with the sound muted in kmix.
[01:43] <khalidmian> i cant seem to add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main to adept
[01:44] <khalidmian> pls help
[01:45] <cjae_> walbert: so I figured out why my ethernet wasn't working
[01:45] <Dr_willis> give more details khalidmian ? You could try editing the /etc/apt/sources.list directly also
[01:46] <etfb> How do I figure out what colour depth I'm using?  I know I'm on 1920x1080 cos it says so in System Settings | Display, but there's no number of colours, and it looks like I'm on something low.
[01:46] <khalidmian> Dr_willis: i dont know how to add repositories via sudo im trying to update amarok
[01:47] <Dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <Dr_willis> add it to the end.
[01:47] <cjae_> walbert: stup*d Q^&#@^$*windows turns the ethernet card off when it shuts down and linux can't turn it back on you have to deselect that setting from device manager in windows
[01:47] <khalidmian> Dr_willis: give a moment to see if it works
[01:47] <cjae_> then enable WOL in the bios
[01:52] <cjae_> for anyone having troubles with realtek ethernet cards and dual boot sernarios http://reynantem.blogspot.com/2008/12/ubuntu-810-ethernet-problem-solved.html
[01:52] <walbert> cjae_: ha.  good stuff
[01:52] <Dr_willis> realtek makes a lot of cards. :)
[01:52] <cjae_> unreal
[01:52] <walbert> i still haven't figured out my problem, as a matter of fact
[01:52]  * walbert sighs
[01:52] <walbert> though i can probably just go on without it
[01:53] <sashaye> Hi
[01:55] <etfb> The Display page in System Settings in Intrepid sucks fairly badly, doesn't it.  The way the information pane won't resize and doesn't fit the controls makes me wonder if the devs can even spell "test".
[01:55] <sashaye> ok
[01:56] <sashaye> oh did you get the sound on ur laptop?
[01:56] <etfb> KDE4: Because Microsoft Vista proved that "fit and finish" is optional.
[01:56]  * Dr_willis is reminded of many MS tools/dialog box;s that cant even be resized
[01:56] <walbert> etfb: amen!
[01:56] <sashaye> you switched to vista
[01:57] <etfb> sashaye: Yes, I did.  Gods only know how.  modprobe snd-hda-intel did it, and putting that module name in /etc/modules made it permanent.
[01:57] <etfb> And no, I did not switch to Vista.  If I ever feel the urge to do that, I'll reach for a nailgun and put a hole in my head.
[01:57] <shentino> anyone know of a bt client that can select peers based on distance or hop count?
[01:57] <shentino> besides vuze
[01:57] <etfb> (Same effect, only cheaper)
[01:57] <sashaye> ahh
[01:58] <etfb> Dr_willis: Trouble is, I haven't seen a Windoze dialog that stupid in many years.  Admittedly (a) I don't use software that's that badly written by choice, and (b) I don't use Vista (see item a).
[01:58] <faileas> etfb: i actually tried it for a few weeks...
[01:59] <faileas> and having tried it... i was underwhelmed ;p
[01:59]  * walbert once saw vista.... looked, but didn't touch
[01:59] <Dr_willis> etfb,  i see them all the time.. could be the  idiot programmers are using some old method.. then again.. Vista died on me last week.. so i dont plan on  reinstalling it.
[01:59] <sashaye> vista is a pain in the neck
[02:00] <sashaye> once I was using xp
[02:00] <sashaye> and switched to vista
[02:00] <sashaye> first prob
[02:00] <sashaye> no sound
[02:00] <sashaye> fixed it
[02:00] <sashaye> next prob
[02:00] <sashaye> it cant work with my printer
[02:00] <sashaye> fixed it
[02:00] <sashaye> next prob
[02:00] <sashaye> it used up too much Ram
[02:01] <sashaye> its like a virus of some kind
[02:01] <sashaye> looks pretty
[02:01] <sashaye> then kaboom
[02:01] <sashaye> problems
[02:02] <khalidmian> Dr_willis: seems ver complicated to edit under terminal  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <Dr_willis> a 10 sec edit is complex?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> time to learn to use  the editor i guess.. it would take me longer to find where in adept to add a source.. then it would to edit that file
[02:03] <yotux> is there a weather widget for KDE4
[02:03] <khalidmian> Dr_willis: im a newbie i dont know how to paste under terminal
[02:03] <khalidmian> youtux i havent found one
[02:03] <sashaye> I have a ques
[02:03] <Dr_willis> select, middle click..
[02:03] <yotux> ctrl-shift-v
[02:03] <Dr_willis> or select text.. copy, use menus to paste
[02:03] <sashaye> there is no sound on my laptop
[02:04] <sashaye> does anyone know how to fix it
[02:04] <asobi> using keep, what if the backup destination is unmounted? does it skip and wait until the next interval?
[02:04] <Dr_willis> note in nano - the help at the bottom ^ = control key
[02:04] <mefisto__> khalidmian: just do the edit, then ctrl-X to exit. it will ask if you want to save the changes you made, etc
[02:04] <Dr_willis> i really think nano shouldbe replaced with a slightly better editor.
[02:04] <khalidmian> how to i go to the line where i want to place text
[02:04] <Dr_willis> arrow keys perhaps?
[02:05] <Dr_willis> thats the logical thing to try.
[02:05] <squidy> yotux: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/SMHI+weather+plasmoid?content=93235
[02:05] <yotux> thankz squidy
[02:05] <Dr_willis> or instead of nano, use 'kdesudo EDITORYOULIKE /etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:05] <Dr_willis> I like the 'geany' editor
[02:05] <sashaye> does anyone know how to put sound on a recently installed ubuntu 8.04
[02:06] <Dr_willis> sashaye,  depending on the card.. You may need to upgrade your alsa
[02:06] <Dr_willis> which can be a pain.
[02:06] <sashaye> whats an alsa
[02:07] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[02:07] <Dr_willis> ALSA - the sound system linux systems normally use
[02:08] <khalidmian> Dr_willis: E: Couldn't find package amarok-kde4
[02:08] <sashaye> where do I find this K menu ?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> khalidmian,  apt-get basics.. you must 'refresh' the package listings after altering the sources.list
[02:08] <etfb> Dr_willis: That ubottu thing must be out of date - there's no Sound System in System Settings.
[02:08] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[02:09] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:09] <Dr_willis> ten try again
[02:11] <etfb> Why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure work any more?  I want to change my screen resolution, and it worked last time I tried (in a previous version of Ubuntu)
[02:12] <sashaye> I paste what I got from the terminal
[02:12] <sashaye> the url is http://paste.ubuntu.com/109208/
[02:14] <sashaye> http://paste.ubuntu.com/109210/
[02:17] <Dr_willis> X uses a 'minimal' xorg.conf now a days..   its supposed to auto-detect most things
[02:19] <mefisto__> making it even more mysterious and worthy of the name X
[02:20] <etfb> Dr_willis: Certainly doesn't autodetect my screen's colour depth worth a damn...
[02:21] <khalidmian> Dr_willis: als doesnt auto detect if connected to another monitor or tv
[02:21] <etfb> And then I can't change it because KDE4 doesn' t think I should need to.  If I wanted to be treated like an idiot, I'd be using Gnome...
[02:22] <Dr_willis> For my systems i normally have to have the ati or nvidia drivers installed for the proper res/stuff to get detected.. but i am using DVI connectors also on a LCD
[02:28] <sashaye> thank you so much
[02:28] <sashaye> I am finally hearing sound on it
[02:28] <sashaye> thank you
[02:28] <sashaye> :)
[02:28] <Dr_willis> wowsers. :) the guide did help eh?
[02:28] <sashaye> etfb: is there sound on ur computer ?
[02:28] <sashaye> ya
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Now you can Jamm to Kenny G. !
[02:29] <sashaye> :P
[02:35] <sashaye> eftb are you there
[02:38] <etfb> sashaye: Yep, I'm just cleaning carpets.
[02:38] <etfb> Yes, the sound is fixed now.
[02:38] <sashaye> oh Dr_willis which lunix os to do you think is best
[02:38] <sashaye> cool
[02:38] <etfb> Screen colours are still too dopey though.
[02:38] <etfb> Should be much better colour depth, but looks like 16 bit.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> Im using Ubuntu on my main machines
[02:40] <sashaye> oh
[02:41] <sashaye> what do you think of kubuntu ?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> it works.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> I use gnome or jwm , over kde4 most of the time
[02:44] <sashaye> thanks for the help
[02:44] <sashaye> got to go
[02:44] <sashaye> bye bye everyone
[02:45] <moxie> hello
[02:53] <d3jake> if I have used ndisgtk which I found out about from this page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EasyWirelessDrivers And found the windows driver properly, do I need to restart before I can use the wireless card? or do I have to take some more steps?
[02:53] <d3jake> that page doesn't help much
[02:54] <dmainou> hi, I just installed kubuntu in this machine anfd for some reason I can't see the synaptic package manager can anyone please help me to add it to the main menu
[02:59] <Dr_willis> install the synaptic manager tool?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> adept i the kde default tool
[02:59] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[03:00] <dmainou> Hi no I haven't I just want to enable the multiverse.
[03:00] <Dr_willis> i always just edit /etc/apt/sources.list todo that
[03:01] <Dr_willis> adept can do that also i imagine
[03:01] <Dr_willis> or theres some check box's in the 'add/remove' interface
[03:01] <dmainou> Thanks... I'm trying to install ther azalia drivers and it's giving me some headakes...
[03:02] <Omikane_> How do I create more profiles for FF? I deleted all of mine... :(
[03:03] <Dr_willis> firefox --help  - i thinktheres a command line option to make one..
[03:03] <Dr_willis> but i though it made them by default the frst time it ran
[03:03] <dmainou> found it within adept... many thanks.
[03:04] <d3jake> Wireless and kubuntu don't like each other.... good thing there are wiki pages everywhere with help on them ^^
[03:05] <jsubl2> iwl3945 works well here
[03:06] <d3jake> mine is a.....bcm4318...
[03:06] <jsubl2> yeah i here those are a little more difficult
[03:07] <d3jake> oh bother... right now I have a ~50-60ft ethernet cable up to this computer, I want to get the wireless working so I don't have to screw with it.
[03:07] <Dr_willis> bcm4318 - i thought ya just installed the 'b43-fwcutter' tool for thise
[03:08] <Dr_willis> but that needs internet to get the firmware :)
[03:09] <d3jake> Dr_willis, do you have a refrence page somewhere that talks about that?
[03:10] <Dr_willis> all i did was 'sudo apt-get isntall  b43-fwcutter' and wasy it went :)
[03:10] <Dr_willis> then i could use wireless.. so i then unplugged the wire. :)
[03:10] <d3jake> oh, cool!
[03:10] <d3jake> this is the second time you've helped me out ^^
[03:11] <Dr_willis> i was thinking the 'restricted-driver' tool also automated this
[03:11] <Frederick> folks why if I set a high resolution my screen fits less than the total monitor area?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> CRT or LCD monitor Frederick ?
[03:12] <Frederick> LCD
[03:12] <rikkimaru> I'm attempting to upgrade from 1.4 amarok to 2.0.1.1 . When I add the repository to me sources.list and do an update and upgrade, amarok isn't listed.  Did i miss a step?
[03:15] <Frederick> Dr_willis: are you there?
[03:20] <Omikane_> anyone know how I would I bring my logins and passwords over from a FF profile backup? I just lost my server logins!
[03:41] <BentFrank> I have two Kubuntu 8.10 systems.  Both nomimally have Adept 3.0 Beta 4 (Sheldon), KDE 4.1.3.  But both look different.  And one won't show the Search icon and won't find packages I need, like cups or sshd.  I don't understand why they are so different?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> i would guess you got different repos enabled?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> but cups and sshd are in MAIN so should be in both
[04:00] <Frederick> folks how do I change the group of an icon on kde menu on kubuntu?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !iso
[04:06] <caustin> Hello
[04:06] <BentFrank> Thanks Dr Willis, I thought so too about cups and sshd
[04:06] <BentFrank> But when I installed NX it complained they weren't present
[04:07] <caustin> Anyone have any idea why apt-get kphotoalbum would want to remove kdeplasma-addons ?
[04:08] <BentFrank> I could hazard a guess
[04:08] <caustin> sure, that would be great..
[04:08] <caustin> same with digiKam
[04:09] <caustin> wants to remove kdeplasma-addons
[04:09] <BentFrank> Maybe they want to be sure what they are rendering to you
[04:10] <caustin> Hmm, not sure I understand what you mean..
[04:20]  * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[04:50] <Makuseru> !ace
[04:51] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:07] <arriesp> bye
[05:13] <eos> I'm a newbie. How do change theme for KDE ?
[05:14] <stdin> if only he'd have waited more than a minute I'd have given him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:15] <stdin> oh well
[05:17] <EagleScreen> eos what KDE version?
[05:17] <stdin> EagleScreen: they left
[05:47] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[05:47] <DaSkreech> hooray /.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> 6 pages of interview with Linus The only thing they notice is that he mentions he is now using Gnome
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  so he cant try out other desktops eh? :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> The Downadup worm — also called Conflicker — has now infected an estimated 10 million PCs worldwide,
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Well I think it's mostly cause he insulted them so badly and publicly
[05:50] <Dr_willis> gnome is dumbed down. :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> he was right
[05:50] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:50] <DaSkreech> was?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> He thinks KDE 4 is a 'disaster.' Although it's improved recently, he'll find many who agree with this prognosis, and KDE 4 can be painful to use."
[05:51] <Dr_willis> He dident like gnome because it was 'dumbed down' it still is.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> i alsoo agree with his kde4 comments. :)
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Though he has only used KDE 4.0
[05:54] <Dr_willis> 4.2 is an improvement.. but i think at this rate i will wait for kde 5.6
[05:58] <DaSkreech> That's probably 4-5 years in the future
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I will stick with JWM till then. :
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <ohhai> How do I make a folderview with my Desktop in KDE 4.2 RC1 full screen and have a background for it?
[06:06] <caustin> Can anyone here running 4.2rc1 simulate an apt-get install for kphotoalbum ?
[06:06] <caustin> tell me if it wants to remove kdeplasma-addons ?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[06:08] <Dr_willis>   kdeplasma-addons libkexiv2-7
[06:10] <Dr_willis> I install that.. then try          sudo apt-get install kdeplasma-addons libkexiv2-7
[06:11] <Dr_willis> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[06:11] <Dr_willis>   kipi-plugins libkexiv2-3
[06:11] <caustin> oh, so they will install after I do the remove with the kphotoalbum install?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> well kdeplasma-addons got reinstalled..
[06:11] <Dr_willis> looks like i got kphptoalbim and kdeplasma-addons both installed now
[06:12] <SilentDis> hello :)  having a bit of problem with knetworkmanager and setting up a simple static IP for a LAN with no DHCP server.  I'm unsure what to fill in for a few of the fields.  I'd like to give this machine 192.168.0.10.
[06:13] <caustin> Dr_willis: thanks, I'll try now.
[06:14] <SilentDis> IP addy: 192.168.0.10, netmask 255.255.255.0... what do i fill in for gateway dns addr. and dns search?  the interface refuses to come up without these filled in.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i use the ip of my router for my DNS.. or the isp's dns ip  - if i know it
[06:14] <Dr_willis> gateway  = router ip also
[06:14] <SilentDis> Dr_willis: no router.  ad hoc
[06:15] <SilentDis> Dr_willis: just 2 machines with a simple switch between 'em.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ip of the machine  that is doing the internet shareing perhaps? or is this just a peer to peer lan?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> then  it wont matter mich i imagine..
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ip of other box or 127.0.0.1 perhaps
[06:16] <Dr_willis> or install a dhcp server on one machine.
[06:16] <SilentDis> Dr_willis: i've never been able to get any sharing working right, that was my first thought as well.  network manager keeps screwing up all the settings :(
[06:16] <SilentDis> Dr_willis: never been able to get a DHCP server setup right either, same problem.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> insrtall dhcp server.. set both machines to use dhcp/auto and it should work   or at least it has for me in the past
[06:17] <Dr_willis> this is a wireless network? or wired?
[06:17] <SilentDis> wired.
 - <simple switch> - <machine>
[06:17] <Dr_willis> you are usng proper hardware?   :)  looks like it.
[06:19] <SilentDis> Dr_willis: back in... hmm... 7.04 or so... this all worked great.  now I have no end to trouble getting things setup right with network manager constantly stealing ports and such.  it's almost more hastle than it's worth to me, mainly because i use EVDO to get on the 'net (only thing available to me out here) from my cellphone, which, obviously, comes with me when i leave
[06:20] <ohhai> How do I make a folderview with my Desktop in KDE 4.2 RC1 full screen and have a background for it?
[06:20] <SilentDis> i'd love to get network sharing working, and a dhcp server running on this machine, i've just given up hope because i've had so many problems.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> could be network manaer trying to be smart.. but ive not tried your exact situation in ages
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I always got a little router handy
[06:21] <Dr_willis> so is one machine going to the internet some how?
[06:22] <SilentDis> if i could find a router with a usb port that could handle this kinda thing, i'd switch to it in a heartbeat.  i'm seriously thinking of bringing in a low powered computer to the mix and connecting the cellphone to that and using it like a 'router' with ubutnu server.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> usb port? phone? what are ya trying to do? im missing somthing hehe...
[06:23] <SilentDis> lol understandable.  my internet connection is provided via EVDO.  I connect a USB cable to my cellphone, HAL assigns it ttyACM0, network manager actually recognizes it as an EVDO capable device, and Just Works (tm).
[06:24] <Dr_willis> So you are trying to get the 2nd pc going thrugh the first one?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> to get to the internetz?
[06:24] <SilentDis> that would be ideal, yes, but since my cellphone comes with me, the settings keep screwing up, and i can never get stuff to 'stick'.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> cell -> pc1 --> pc2
[06:25] <SilentDis> bingo
[06:25] <Dr_willis> pc1 would be  the gateway and dns server for the 2nd one.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> !ics
[06:25] <Dr_willis> that url may have some info also
[06:25] <SilentDis> that's the idea, but as i said, gotta bring down the 'net connection constantly, and have it come back up worry-free.  the dhcp servers i've tried never work right.
[06:26] <knic> how do i request a reset of my network adapters dhcp (similar to pump) on cmdline for kubuntu?
[06:27] <SilentDis> Dr_willis: reading now, i'll give it another go, i assume i just keep missing something in the configs.
[06:39] <BentFrank> SilentDis:  Network Manager has a bug that resets youback to DHCP.  If you want static IP follow this...http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[06:40] <SilentDis> BentFrank: thanks for that :D
[06:41] <SilentDis> BentFrank: ah crap.  not good, bug is in network manager that keeps resetting my stuff.  and network manager is what i use to setup the evdo connection.  aargh.
[06:43] <BentFrank> yeah, unf'ly part of the fix is to remove network manager
[06:43] <Dr_willis> yea - network manager has cause issues over the years... :)
[06:44] <ohhai> How do I upgrade OpenOffice.org to the 3rd version?
[06:44] <SilentDis> i guess i'll need to grab kppp before i go any further on any of this then.
[06:46] <SilentDis> with network manager out of the picture, though, i should be able to get this setup on my own.  that's been the bane of my existance this whole time >.<
[06:47] <DaSkreech> ohhai: Get it from a PPA or from openoffice directly
[06:48] <ohhai> DaSkreech: How can I add ppa to my repositories?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> ohhai: Never added a third part repo before?
[06:50] <ohhai> Sorry, figured.
[06:51] <ohhai> DaSkreech: Danks, worked.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> ohhai: Greeat
[07:03] <carlossnchez> hello, can somebody help me? me podrían ayudar por favor?
[07:06] <carlossnchez> hello, can somebody help me? me podrían ayudar por favor?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> 'please state the nature of the linux emergacy'
[07:11] <BattleStarJesus>  I'm running Kubuntu with the Nvidia driver (version 177.82), I have using Compiz-Fusion and Emerald.  When I open video media with any media player it plays, but when I try to enable full-screen or try to play the next video in a playlist, the player shuts down. What is causing this to happen and how do I resolve it?
[07:11] <micha__> ok i am confused wasn't there a on the advanced tab in system settings a restricted driver icon and how do i get it if i lost it
[07:13] <Dr_willis> I found it best to not use compiz with kde 4.x
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Run the player from a terminal. look for error messages  BattleStarJesus   - look for clues there?
[07:14] <seektherapy> I have a soundcard problem
[07:14] <seektherapy> can someone help me
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Sound can be a pain to trouble shoot.
[07:14] <micha__> Dr_willis: do you know how to get the restricted driver icon
[07:15] <Dr_willis> micha__,   just run 'sudo jockey-kde' to get to the Restricted-program  interface. is all i do
[07:15] <micha__> i am on hardy thanks Dr_willis
[07:15] <seektherapy> I see the icon on the top right but when i click on it i get the error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[07:15] <Dr_willis> seektherapy,  try some other mixers perhaps? Ive heard of that error befor - but not sure why it does that.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> isent gstreamer for gnome?
[07:16] <seektherapy> doesnt work
[07:17] <Dr_willis> 'dosent work' is not very helpfull.. what did you just try to do?
[07:18] <BattleStarJesus> > Dr_willis: do you know what [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 141.19 failed with error code 11: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[07:18] <BattleStarJesus> means
[07:20] <Dr_willis> use a different  'video out' option for the player
[07:20] <Dr_willis> using 'xv' here on my system
[07:21] <BattleStarJesus> I will try, I'm going to use vlc what do you suggest?
[07:21] <BattleStarJesus> ok
[07:21] <Dr_willis> I use vlc a lot.. and mplayer at times
[07:24] <micha__> i am still on hardy (because i don't like the kde4 at the moment) apt-get upgrade upgrades but keeps 10 packages back should i do a dist-upgrade or would that install kde4?
[07:25] <BattleStarJesus> Dr_willis: hey that worked very well, awsome work Dr,
[07:29] <micha__> i am still on hardy (because i don't like the kde4 at the moment) apt-get upgrade upgrades but keeps 10 packages back should i do a dist-upgrade or would that install kde4?
[07:30] <micha__> somebody know the answer?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> see what dist-upgrade says it will upgrade
[07:38] <derjens> hello everyone
[07:39] <derjens> i am using kontact with 3 mail receiving accounts (all of them type disc. imap)
[07:39] <derjens> when i started kontact yesterday out of the sudden 2 of 3 were gone
[07:39] <derjens> i did not delete them!
[07:40] <derjens> the smtp accounts are still there
[07:40] <derjens> can you give me any information how to recover my mail accounts?
[07:46] <BentFrank> test
[07:52] <Dr_willis> !test
[07:53] <sachith> hai all
[07:53] <sachith> can anylp me one help me with an issue?
[07:54] <sachith> im using kubuntu 8.10 and my bluetooth is not working
[07:56] <caustin> Is there any decent native gnutella clients for KDE?
[07:56] <stdin> !p2p
[07:56] <stdin> !Gnutella
[07:57] <ohhai> From what repo can I get the Thunderbird 3.0b2 for 8.10?
[07:58] <stdin> ohhai: you won't get a software beta release in a stable release
[07:58] <ohhai> stdin: I want a beta release, I just need to know a repository where I can fetch it from.
[08:01] <stdin> ohhai: you'll have to download and install it manually
[08:01] <ohhai> stdin: Thanks, then I'll look for a .deb package.
[08:19] <ohhai> How do I switch off the thread view in the new KMail?
[08:47] <hunt> ok. i want to watch youtube. but when i typy in youtube.com than it goes to /czyoutube.com and i get a blank page. i think this must be something to do with the settings on my pc.. but i dont know and i dont know how to change it.. have somebody an idea????
[08:47] <nahy> hey guys. i want to know how can i set my gtalk account with kopete?
[08:47] <ohhai> Please, tell me - how can I disable date categories (e.g. Today, Thursday, Last Week) and thread view for KMail in KDE4? How can I make it to just display the good old list, like it is in Thunderbird?
[08:49] <nahy> roozbehonline: salam. hale shoma?
[08:50] <nahy> i want to know how can i set my gtalk account with kopete?
[08:53] <senorpedro> hunt: check /etc/hosts
[08:54] <ubunturos> nahy: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=57557 - should help you in doing that
[08:54] <nahy> thx
[09:00] <Nataouze> hello
[09:00] <StR|Sangreal> hello
[09:00] <StR|Sangreal> as i installed kubuntu on defaults, my graphics started flittering and the performance was really bad; i was offered to install a proprietary driver, the performance did improve dramatically; however, any attempt to play video crashes vlc and other players play it badly(i mean 60% of frames are black, it flickers on the top of the desktop and plasma)
[09:00] <StR|Sangreal>  (i have centrino2, thus i installed amd64 distro, my videocard is ati radeon mobility x1450) please could sb advise me how to set up my graphics?
[09:05] <Dr_willis> use the restricted-drivers/hardware-drivers tool to enable the fglrx drivers perhaps StR|Sangreal
[09:06] <Dr_willis> or run 'jockey-kde'
[09:06] <Dr_willis> !find jockey
[09:06] <Dr_willis> (same tool different names)
[09:07] <nahy> Dr_willis: Hi. remember me? i faced a bad bug in my recent kubuntu and going to reinstall a fresh one
[09:08] <StR|Sangreal> dr_willis, i have them enabled and the performance isnt still fine
[09:08] <Nataouze> Since last update of solid on kde4.2, I have this error message when kde is loading: "Error creating  Bluetooth Server" "The name org.openobex was not provided by any .service files"
[09:08] <Dr_willis> StR|Sangreal,  I find kde4 to be sluggish. so cant really give much more suggestions...
[09:08] <nahy> i have to install hardy. is it necessary to upgrade to kde4?
[09:09] <Dr_willis> nahy,  i think it may be.. there was some unofficial kde 3.5 repos. but ive not heard much about them lately
[09:09] <StR|Sangreal> i am gonna install gnome... d you think it will solve my problem?
[09:10] <Dr_willis> what problem? desktop being slow?  depends.
[09:10] <Dr_willis> install jwm if you want a speedy window manager. :) but its uber-minimal
[09:10] <Dr_willis> Im using gnome as my main desktop these days.. or JWM+Rox-filer
[09:11] <StR|Sangreal> the speed of the environment is ok
[09:11] <StR|Sangreal> the main trouble is in playing video
[09:11] <todz> hello I'm wanting to try KDE 4.1 RC1 but I keep getting an error when trying to install the kdebase-workspace-data package, I was wondering if someone could help me with it?
[09:11] <todz> *KDE 4.2
[09:11] <Dr_willis> try other videoplayers perhaps
[09:11] <Nataouze> somebody already had this problem with blouetooth ?
[09:11] <Nataouze> kbluetooth4
[09:12] <Dr_willis> Nataouze,  ive heard that bluetooth in kde4 has issues.. but ive never tried it
[09:13] <Nataouze> Dr_willis: do you have an idea how to disable it from the boot time ?
[09:14] <Dr_willis> kbluetooth4 wouldbe gettting started by kde.. not at boot.. as far as i know
[09:14] <Dr_willis> check the kde4 sessions/autorunn apps perhaps?
[09:14] <Nataouze> yes at kde boot :)
[09:14] <Dr_willis> !autostart
[09:14] <Dr_willis> 'kde starts up' the PC 'boots up' :)
[09:15] <tictric> anyone else experiencing problems accessing cdrom on intrepid?
[09:15] <StR|Sangreal> dr_willis, vlc crashed completely after installing the catalyst driver; mplayer and kaffeine just flicker on the top of kde
[09:15] <Dr_willis> StR|Sangreal,  try disableng all th faccy kde eye candy/effects/compositing stuff perhaps
[09:15] <Dr_willis> I dont have a single ati system any more
[09:16] <Nataouze> yes you're right sry ;) anyway there's just nothing in autostart concerning bluetooth, the thing is kbluetooth is part of solid
[09:19] <MinusSeven> is PulseAudio better than ALSA, and if so, how do I make it so PulseAudio is used?
[09:21] <Dr_willis> Pulse Audio USES alsa
[09:21] <Dr_willis> !pulse
[09:21] <Dr_willis> soundcard --> alsa .-->pulseaudio
[09:21] <MinusSeven> thanks
[09:22] <Dr_willis> and given the # of people ive seen that want to remove Pulseaudio
[09:22] <Dr_willis> you might NOT want to use it.
[09:23] <pankovs> kkk
[09:23] <pankovs> hello
[09:23] <kenny__> Any ideas on how to get koffice2 on 4,2 1st time in any IRC sorry if I'm breaching any protocol
[09:23] <MinusSeven> its just that when I installed KDE 4.2, sound only worked with one program at a time
[09:24] <Guest65284> anybody know how to turn 32bit rpms into 64bitbit rpms
[09:24] <truetothegametha> pleasehelp
[09:25] <ubunturos> truetothegametha: !ask
[09:25] <ubunturos> !ask | truetothegametha
[09:25] <truetothegametha> k
[09:25] <truetothegametha> thnx
[09:26] <truetothegametha> just did on own
[09:26] <pankovs> What is better to use ubuntu or Kubuntu
[09:26] <truetothegame> its more complex
[09:26] <truetothegame> alot more possibilitys
[09:27] <truetothegame> mispell
[09:27] <Dr_willis> You can easually install kde on ubuntu, and gnome on kubuntu
[09:27] <Dr_willis> so installboth and try them both out
[09:27] <truetothegame> if you develop you wouldnt use ubuntu
[09:27] <Dr_willis> tehres too many gnome or kde apps i like.. to limit myself to one or the other
[09:27] <pankovs> I installed xfce on Kubuntu
[09:28] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of developers who dont use KDE> :) depends on what they are developing
[09:28] <Dr_willis> YOu can install xfce also..  have 3 to play withj
[09:28] <truetothegame> or how you learned
[09:28] <pankovs> Xfce like a gnome
[09:29] <pankovs> And best of all is IceWM!
[09:29] <truetothegame> why
[09:30] <Dr_willis> i like jwm+rox-filer
[09:30] <Dr_willis> intall allof them and try them all out
[09:30] <pankovs> it doesn not tike many system resources and memory
[09:30] <truetothegame> kkkk
[09:31] <truetothegame> how to install 32bit rpms on 64bit linux
[09:32] <Dr_willis> you doule have to set up some 32bit chroot I belive
[09:32] <pankovs> How I know 32 bit application need 32 bit libs
[09:33] <truetothegame> time
[09:33] <Dr_willis> !32bit
[09:33] <Dr_willis> i wouldent suggest mesing with rpms at all
[09:34] <Dr_willis> the 32bit stuff just adds more to the problem
[09:35] <stdin> you don't need a chroot to run 32bit apps in 64bit linux
[09:35] <pankovs> I have 64 AMD processor but I installed i386 ubuntu and have no problems
[09:36] <stdin> !amd64
[09:36] <truetothegame> i have amd turion!
[09:36] <truetothegame> problem is cpufreq not in kpowersave or default app
[09:36] <Dr_willis> I use 64bit os on my  64bit Machine. :) and have very few problems
[09:37] <pankovs> Do anybody use VirtualBox
[09:37] <pankovs> &
[09:37] <pankovs> ?
[09:39] <hacker> 如何升级到kde 4.1.4
[09:40] <stdin> !cn
[09:41] <Dr_willis> Lots of us use Virtualbox
[09:42] <Dr_willis> !virtualbox
[09:43] <pankovs> Can I run 3d games for windows on vbox (host ubuntu, guest winxp)
[09:44] <senorpedro> pankovs: better not
[09:44] <pankovs> why
[09:44] <senorpedro> afaik the 3d stuff in vbox is very slow
[09:44] <pankovs> In last version there is support 3d in vbox
[09:44] <senorpedro> even if you have a very fast graphic card
[09:44] <senorpedro> well you can try
[09:44] <pankovs> GF 9600 GT my videocard
[09:45] <senorpedro> but i dont think it will be fast, afaik vmware does better graphic handling
[09:45] <pankovs> i must go
[09:46] <pankovs> good by
[09:46] <Dr_willis> 3d stuff in either one - i imagine will be less then great. :)
[09:47] <truetothegame> nope
[09:47] <Dr_willis> thats sort of a 'soon to be big feature' if they ever get it going..
[09:47] <truetothegame> colinux better than vmware
[09:49] <Dr_willis> iimagien it depends on wha tyou want to do with it all
[09:49] <truetothegame> true
[09:50] <truetothegame> faster on regular usages why not graphics
[09:50] <truetothegame> i havnt tested though so what would i know about it besides nothin
[09:52] <Dr_willis> I ten to just use vbox to test live cd's
[09:56] <micha__> my touchpad is a bit speedy how can i get that a bit more unsensetive?
[09:56] <ohhai> How do I make .avi videos work in Kubuntu Interpid Ibex?
[09:56] <truetothegame> vlc
[09:57] <micha__> .avi could be xvid divx mpeg4 but that doesn\t matter they should all work ohhai
[09:57] <Dr_willis> a lot will depend on the specific CODEC of the avi file
[09:57] <Dr_willis> avi could be one of several Dozen codecs :) used in it
[09:57] <truetothegame> vlc dnt need extras
[09:57] <Dr_willis> if not more
[09:57] <ohhai> I installed w32codecs and SMPlayer/MPlayer, and I get only the sound.
[09:57] <ohhai> The same with VLC.
[09:57] <Dr_willis> vlc does incluse most.
[09:57] <ohhai> Sound, no video.
[09:57] <truetothegame> fuck mplayer vlc
[09:57] <Dr_willis> sounds like its a weird video codec then
[09:58] <truetothegame> worked on mine
[09:58] <truetothegame> everythang
[09:58] <ohhai> It works all right under Win.
[09:58] <jussi01> !ohmy | truetothegame
[09:58] <Dr_willis> truetothegame,  and that proves very little in this case.
[09:58] <micha__> can you run a file against the .avi and tell us what avi it is ohhai
[09:58] <Dr_willis> ohhai,  run the player from a terminal. and look for error messages/info about the video file also
[09:58] <truetothegame> not in court in life
[09:58] <truetothegame> not doin frm term in that case
[09:58] <micha__> my touchpad is a bit speedy how can i get that a bit more unsensetive?
[09:59] <ohhai> Oh gee.. Desktop effects caused it.
[09:59] <Dr_willis> Some videos can use very out there codecs in some cases.
[09:59] <Dr_willis> ohhai,  :) that can cause issues also
[09:59] <ohhai> Is there any way to make them compatible? =)
[09:59] <micha__> touchpad someone a touchpad?
[09:59] <stdin> use the xv driver
[10:00] <stdin> it seems to work fine with compositing enabled for me
[10:00] <micha__> xv stdin
[10:00] <truetothegame> where you get that at
[10:00] <stdin> yeah, xv :p
[10:00] <stdin> there should be an option in whatever media player you're using
[10:01] <ohhai> xv driver for video player or xv driver for the system?
[10:01] <blackbird> hi
[10:01] <truetothegame> both
[10:01] <truetothegame> hi
[10:01] <blackbird> plz i'm newbie
[10:01] <blackbird> i have some problems
[10:02] <blackbird> i use kubuntu 8.10
[10:02] <truetothegame> just say the problems dnt talk down on ones self
[10:02] <stdin> ohhai: it's a video driver, not a graphics driver. it's only used by the media player
[10:03] <blackbird> first how to install a tar.gz after unzipping ?
[10:03] <ohhai> stdin: Crashes VLC. =(
[10:03] <ohhai> XVideo driver that is.
[10:04] <stdin> works in mplayer
[10:04] <truetothegame> what ohhai mean
[10:05] <Dr_willis> blackbird,  what are you trying to install exactly?
[10:05] <truetothegame> vlc easier just install then it run
[10:05] <stdin> easier than "mplayer filename.avi" ?
[10:05] <truetothegame> yep
[10:05] <stdin> is is psychic?
[10:05] <Dr_willis> Psycotic!
[10:05] <truetothegame> install vlc and avi just plays no extra needed
[10:05] <Dr_willis> apt-get install kde-esp
[10:06] <blackbird> second i found a driver for my low speed modem in rpm i try to use alien to convert it to .deb but this message appears : "Error executing "LANG=C rpm -qp --queryformat %{NAME} sm56.rpm":  at /usr/locashare/perl/5.10.0/Alien/Package.pm line 482."
[10:06] <Tinason> if its for kubuntu, it would ne psykic
[10:06] <Dr_willis> there are AVI's that vlc cant play. :)  but those tend to be avi's that people shouldent be watching anyway
[10:06] <stdin> truetothegame: as you've been told, avi is a container, not a codec. saying "I can play avi" means nothing
[10:06] <blackbird> i try to install firefox
[10:06] <ohhai> stdin: X11 - Insufficient resources for operation, many times --- the errors I get when trying to play my .avi file. Only sound comes out.
[10:07] <Dr_willis> blackbird,  firefox is in the repositories.. 'sudo apt-get install firefox' will install it.
[10:07] <truetothegame> im a newb after years
[10:07] <stdin> ohhai: ouch
[10:07] <Dr_willis> blackbird,  as for drivers.. those can be a bit more of a proboem
[10:07] <stdin> ohhai: is "Accelerated video output" checked?
[10:08] <ohhai> stdin: Yep.
[10:08] <stdin> ohhai: try without it
[10:08] <ohhai> stdin: Errors come from mplayer, btw.
[10:08] <stdin> oh, ok
[10:08] <ohhai> As for VLC, checked both with and without accelerated output. =(
[10:09] <blackbird> i want to convert .rpm to .deb using alien
[10:09] <stdin> ohhai: same with xv?
[10:09] <stdin> blackbird: why?
[10:10] <ohhai> stdin: Yep. It works though when desktop effects are disabled. =(
[10:10] <blackbird> because kubuntu dont use rpm ! right ?
[10:10] <ohhai> blackbird: Everything you need can be found in .deb as well.
[10:10] <stdin> blackbird: I mean, why do you need to convert an rpm? what are you trying to install?
[10:11] <ohhai> blackbird: Converting is probably the worst choice. In the extreme case, compiling would be better. =)
[10:11] <ohhai> Worst as in not very error-prone.
[10:11] <blackbird> modem driver stdin
[10:11] <ohhai> Oh, I take my words back. =)
[10:11] <ohhai> Those are hard to find.
[10:11] <stdin> !info sl-modem
[10:11] <stdin> gmm
[10:12] <blackbird> ohhai> how can i compile
[10:12] <blackbird> ?
[10:12] <stdin> !modem
[10:12] <ohhai> blackbird: If you have the source code for your driver, which might be next to impossible to discover.
[10:12] <stdin> blackbird: try that link
[10:12] <blackbird> yes dial up
[10:13] <stdin> ohhai: what graphics card/driver do you have? (is it nvidia/ati?)
[10:13] <blackbird> i see the link thank u
[10:14] <ohhai> stdin: ATI x1600 mobility, probably radeonhd.
[10:14] <stdin> with the binary driver?
[10:14] <stdin> fglrx
[10:15] <micha__> touchpad someone a touchpad?
[10:16] <blackbird> my modem is not detected that's why i try to install a driver
[10:16] <blackbird> i used scanmodem
[10:17] <blackbird> it's a motorola sm56
[10:17] <truetothegame> how to make dynamic and performence work again in kgp
[10:17] <micha__> !touchpad
[10:17] <micha__> thank you ubottu
[10:18] <truetothegame> or kpowersave
[10:18] <peppuzzino> ciao
[10:18] <truetothegame> take the driver and wrap it
[10:20] <blackbird> truetothegame> excuse what's "wrap it" ?
[10:20] <truetothegame> theres a program where you can take windows drivers and wrap them into linux
[10:21] <blackbird> which one ?
[10:22] <truetothegame> hold please its been a while
[10:22] <truetothegame> im looking up right now
[10:22] <stdin> that only works with wifi drivers
[10:22] <truetothegame> ndiswrapper
[10:22] <micha__> grrrrrrrrrrr After installation, ksynaptics can be found in the KDE Control Center. i can't even install it!!
[10:22] <truetothegame> well ok
[10:22] <truetothegame> idk
[10:23] <stdin> micha__: download the .deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ksynaptics and install that
[10:23] <micha__> E: Package ksynaptics has no installation candidate
[10:23] <stdin> micha__: it works on intrepid just fine
[10:23] <stdin> and hardy for that matter
[10:23] <micha__> thanks stdin i have hardy
[10:24] <stdin> works in both
[10:24] <micha__> why doesn't it install via apt-get ? stdin
[10:24] <stdin> because it's not in the repositories after gutsy
[10:25] <micha__> ah ok
[10:25] <Dr_willis> ksynaptics is outdated i belive
[10:25] <Dr_willis> thers some other tools that replaces it. but i dont rember what its called.
[10:25] <Dr_willis> !find synaptics
[10:25] <Dr_willis> gsynaptics - is still there? :) thats weird
[10:29] <blackbird> thanks all
[10:29] <blackbird> bye
[10:30] <afd_> hi! I'm using ubuntu intrepid + kde 4.2 latest beta. How can I add a new desktop activity? I don't get the global cachew to zoom out...
[10:30] <afd_> I like the idea of having different plasma desktop profiles and I understand that the activities would enable that
[10:31] <truetothegame> ph how to get dynamic/performence to work after crash in kgp/kpowersave
[10:31] <truetothegame> coll afd_
[10:31] <truetothegame> cool
[10:32] <truetothegame> sorry drunk
[10:32] <StR|Sangreal> please, how can i add sth to my panel that changes keyboard layouts?
[10:32] <truetothegame> what sth
[10:32] <OxDeadC0de> what do you die hards here think of this ;)? http://imagebin.ca/view/yKJXyCKn.html (still a work in progres...)
[10:34] <Tinason> i just installed google earth. all the fonts as squished together. i dont see any solution to this issue in the forums. has anyone else experienced this?
[10:34] <Tinason> ...and better yet, resolved it
[10:34] <OxDeadC0de> last time I installed it it worked perfectly :/
[10:36] <truetothegame> oxdeadcode this is my aim i would love to test and help staggastatistics
[10:36] <Dr_willis> i belvie theres some  font/desktop effects issues that affect some apps
[10:37] <afd_> how can I enable desktop activities in kde 4.2?
[10:37] <Tinason> hmmm
[10:37] <Dr_willis> activities?
[10:37] <truetothegame> wym
[10:38] <OxDeadC0de> truetothegame huh? did you reboot to get governors to work again?
[10:38] <truetothegame> no
[10:38] <afd_> Dr_willis: different plasma desktop profiles, they're called desktop activities by dek
[10:38] <afd_> s/dek/kde
[10:38] <OxDeadC0de> truetothegame powersave/dynamic/performance need kernel modules to work , which are loaded at boot, possible the kernel modules crashed
[10:38] <ohhai> How do I find out which video driver am I running?
[10:38] <truetothegame> brb
[10:39] <k1> what's the best way to get koffice2 on kde 4.2?
[10:39] <OxDeadC0de> anyone? comments on the image? ideas on better text's for it (they ALL need replaced)? anything? :P
[10:41] <OxDeadC0de> afd_ click the cashew, zoom out, the controls appear you can add new ones from existing activities (there should always be 1 existing activity at least)
[10:41] <OxDeadC0de> cashew on the desktop not on the panel
[10:42] <afd_> OxDeadC0de: I have a panel at the top, I don't get a cachew on the desktop
[10:42] <OxDeadC0de> afd_ where'd it go? under the panel? You can move the cashew
[10:43] <afd_> OxDeadC0de: I've set the panel on the left edge temporarily.... I didn't knew you could move the cachew
[10:43] <afd_> trying now
[10:43] <afd_> I've added a new activity, btw
[10:43] <OxDeadC0de> just click/drag the cashew, nothin special ;)
[10:43] <afd_> yes, just did that
[10:43] <OxDeadC0de> and grats btw :P
[10:43] <afd_> cool :)
[10:43] <afd_> eh, thanks
[10:44] <OxDeadC0de> so can I get your opinion now?:Phttp://imagebin.ca/view/yKJXyCKn.html
[10:44] <OxDeadC0de> fraking space bar
[10:44] <afd_> OxDeadC0de: thanks, I think I'm set :)
[10:45] <Dr_willis> http://imagebin.ca/view/yKJXyCKn.html
[10:45] <OxDeadC0de> ty :P
[10:46] <OxDeadC0de> it all works too I just used it to check my webmail :P
[10:47] <micha__> hmm i might be unsensetiv but my touchpad isn't ... there seams to be no different between high and low ... all the same??
[10:49] <afd_> micha__: sometimes firmware updates help
[10:49] <afd_> I think
[10:49] <WishingMaster> for sure they do help
[10:50] <WishingMaster> which system are you using?
[10:50] <WishingMaster> brand?
[10:51] <WishingMaster> ?
[10:52] <WishingMaster> ?
[10:53] <WishingMaster> ?
[10:53] <truetothegame> hello
[10:53] <micha__> afd_: installed ksynaptics ... works fine disables the touchpad while typing which is very helpful since most of the newer notebooks have the touchpad on the same level so if you actully type with 10 fingers you will open serveral windows and jump everywhere :) But it is still too fast ... might have to restart X ...
[10:54] <truetothegame> got modes back but not all options
[10:55]  * micha__ hates the new touchpads and the stupid plastic screens that act like a mirrow. 
[10:55] <truetothegame> i like fast
[10:55] <micha__> lol
[10:55] <OxDeadC0de> truetothegame I just use the ruby cpufreq applet for that when i can.. (I can't get it to work in rc1.)
[10:56] <truetothegame> hold please
[10:56] <afd_> OxDeadC0de: the battery monitor has an option to change power profiles
[10:56] <afd_> :)
[10:56] <OxDeadC0de> I will update that for 4.2 when it's released, if I need to.. hopefully they'll make things backward compatible.
[10:57] <OxDeadC0de> yeah but the cpufreq applet shows you live what speed you're running in the panel, and lets you select any available userspace speed cleanly and quickly
[10:57] <truetothegame> what rc1
[10:57] <OxDeadC0de> along with any governor available to the system
[10:57] <afd_> what's a governor
[10:57] <afd_> ?
[10:57] <micha__> there is a debain 4.2 live cd which is sweet OxDeadC0de
[10:57] <truetothegame> wish i had it
[10:57] <OxDeadC0de> powersave, ondemand, performance, userspace (user set frequency)
[10:57] <Dr_willis> Governor runs the state. :)
[10:58] <etfb> I'm using Kubuntu 8.10, and I want to know what my colour-depth is.  That is, what is the "colour resolution" of my current display?  15 bit, 16, 24, 32?  How do I tell?
[10:58] <afd_> aha
[10:58]  * fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[10:58] <Dr_willis> I think 'xvidtune' can tell you etfb  or the 'xrandr' command
[10:58] <micha__> normal is 24 etfb
[10:58] <OxDeadC0de> haha it took me a bit to get that dr_willis
[10:58] <etfb> No luck with xrandr...
[10:59] <Dr_willis> those show res..not the depth. :)
[10:59] <OxDeadC0de> classic!
[10:59] <etfb> ... or xvidtune.
[10:59] <etfb> micha__: I'm pretty sure it's display 16 bit colour, which looks pretty crap.
[10:59] <OxDeadC0de> micha_ well it can't be 4.2 as it's still not completely released yet.. it could be the beta or rc though :P
[11:00] <afd_> is it possible to use dashboard widgets in plasma? I've tried 2 widgets already downloaded from apple.com and none of them can be selected when adding a new widget from file
[11:00] <afd_> should I unzip them?
[11:00] <Dr_willis> adf_ i dident think thse were useable on kde4's stuff
[11:01] <OxDeadC0de> afd_ might not work, but i bet it's a file extension issue?
[11:01] <afd_> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/10/feature-completing-mac-os-dashboard.html
[11:01] <Dr_willis> of course i do recaall that being a feature to be worked on.. but never seen it used yet
[11:01] <OxDeadC0de> afd_ or figure out the right plasmapkg -i command to install the zipfile
[11:01] <etfb> afd_: I can't imagine they would be.  OSX != Linux, and dashboard stuff assumes some proprietary Safari features.
[11:01] <Dr_willis> kde4 is very much a work in progress. :)
[11:01] <micha__> OxDeadC0de: http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=e9cad4bb690e047a81d165176fa7063d54a55313 yes it is but it is nice
[11:02] <afd_> etfb: so then why implement support for dashboard widgets?
[11:02] <afd_> if none of them are going to work?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> 'Right now Plasma implements exactly zero of them in the Dashboard ScriptEngine, causing several widgets to fail when loaded.'
[11:02] <OxDeadC0de> micha_ very cool
[11:02] <etfb> afd_: You got me there.  Did they?  I'm no expert.
[11:02] <Dr_willis> adf_ from what i am reading.. None work :)
[11:02] <afd_> etfb: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/10/feature-completing-mac-os-dashboard.html
[11:03] <etfb> In KDE 3 there was a program that let me see all sorts of settings and hardware info.  Any idea what it was called?  Something info?
[11:03] <micha__> not so big works fine on my notebook and you can have a look at how things are developing ... OxDeadC0de
[11:03] <Dr_willis> afd_,  from wha ti am readins at that site.. only the most basic of osx widgets might work.
[11:04] <micha__> i am still using kde3 because kde4 is not as customizable as i like it to be ... but with the relase of 4.2 i might go for it :)
[11:05] <OxDeadC0de> micha_ I use nightly-neon's nightly svn build for that, or 4.2rc1 from launchpad (also part of the neon project)
[11:05] <micha__> well i might not have much choice because it will get into debian/sid and that would mean i get it if i like it or not :)
[11:06] <deamoon> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/109312/
[11:06] <deamoon> help me with this plz
[11:06] <OxDeadC0de> micha_ it'd probably be fairly trivial to compile kde3 for it with enough space on the new debian
[11:06] <Dr_willis> deamoon,  summarize please? :)
[11:06] <deamoon> i migrate to ubuntu from kubuntu
[11:07] <deamoon> and cant update
[11:09] <micha__> looks like the public key for on of your sourceslist entry is missing deamoon
[11:09] <deamoon> yes
[11:09] <deamoon> dhow can i add it
[11:09] <OxDeadC0de> well that sucks, no comments at all, not even a "that sucks" or "nifty" or anything :(
[11:09] <gmasucci> hello to everyone...I just want to report that apt-get install kdebase-workspace-dev leads to broken dependencies
[11:09] <gmasucci> tested yesterday evening :)
[11:10] <OxDeadC0de> hmm I have it installed gmasucci
[11:10] <ulysses__> i have installed kdebase-workspace-dev, but i haven't any problem
[11:10] <gmasucci> mmm
[11:12] <micha__> is that the complete error deamoon
[11:12] <micha__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046158 that might help deamoon
[11:13] <gmasucci> appearently there is a conflicting file in soprano provided by two different packages
[11:14] <gmasucci> or at least it was there yesterday evening
[11:15] <gmasucci> i'm trying this again from a fresh jaunty installation..will report in a minute
[11:15] <gmasucci> well the problem is still there
[11:15] <gmasucci> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:15] <gmasucci>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libsoprano-dev_2.1.67+dfsg.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[11:15] <gmasucci> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:16] <gmasucci> here's the output of apt-get install -f
[11:16] <gmasucci> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsoprano-dev_2.1.67+dfsg.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:16] <gmasucci>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.soprano.Model.xml', which is also in package soprano-daemon
[11:17] <gmasucci> so the problem seems to be a conflict between soprano-daemon and libsoprano-dev
[11:18] <johannes_> hi, i have ot problems with my graphic driver, intel gma x3100, flickering screen...i cannpt get it right.any body an idea?
[11:18] <johannes_> thanks
[11:18] <katharina> khalili
[11:18] <katharina> hallo
[11:21] <gmasucci> johannes...intel cards are under major changes...so instabilities are somehow to be expected right now...btw jaunty is on kernel 2.6.28 and intel developers raccomend using some patches agains it..also are you using default configuration (EXA acceleration) or UXA?
[11:21] <ulysses__> gmasucci,  I try to install kde 4.2 rc1 on my kubuntu 8.10, it also have problems, i run dpkg-reconfigure -a, it's running for 30 minutes, i hope it will help
[11:26] <Frederick> folks some apps give me now sound what is that?
[11:26] <Frederick> I mean I have sound in gaim but not in lastfm for example
[11:27] <ohhai> I have weird interface bugs when watching videos using front-end for mplayer, such as SMPlayer or in VLC. I'm running KDE4.2 on Kubuntu 8.10, with fglrx driver for my Radeon x1600 mobility card. Any way to fix it?
[11:33] <gmasucci> ulysses, in my case the problem is clear.  The file org.soprano.Model.xml is contained both in soprano-daemon and libsoprano-dev and the packaege manager goes crazy about it...so the prob is in these 2 packages. But I'm on jaunty and I don't know if the intrepid backport is affected by the same problem :)
[11:39] <StR|Sangreal> hi
[11:41] <Dr_willis> Moo
[11:42] <StR|Sangreal> please, i need help... i have installed packages gnome and ubuntu-desktop, and although i have stated during the installation process that kde should be default, i boot in gnome, i stop recognizing my sound driver and sth with swich user freezes at gnome boot
[11:46] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[11:46] <Dr_willis> you mean you stated that  'kdm' should be the default login manager?     You would still have to select kde or gnome from the KDM sessions menu.
[11:58] <a931bw> Hi all
[11:58] <a931bw> How to update to KDE 4?
[11:59]  * Dr_willis looks at the URL in the topic
[11:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:59] <Dr_willis> KDE 4.2 RC 1: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1
[12:00] <Dr_willis> If you mean to INSTALL kde4 on Ubuntu...  that will also do it.
[12:00] <Dr_willis> I think.
[12:01] <RurouniJones> another soul about to be subject to the pits of hell :p
[12:01] <Dr_willis> and we gladly welcom them!
[12:01] <morgan_> salve
[12:01] <morgan_> nessuno in linea?
[12:01]  * RurouniJones looks on form 3.5 heaven
[12:01] <Dr_willis> 'I for one welcome our new Plasmid overlords!'
[12:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:02] <RurouniJones> !it | morgan_
[12:02]  * RurouniJones assume Italian and not Spanish
[12:03] <morgan_> cne vuol dire scusa?
[12:03] <Dr_willis> 'No Hoblo'
[12:03] <Dr_willis> I dont know to say 'i dont speak italian' :)
[12:03] <RurouniJones> No hable is spanish I think
[12:03] <Dr_willis> Iknow thats spanish. :) I dated spanish girl.. :P
[12:04]  * Dr_willis can get his face slapped in 8 language!
[12:04] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[12:10] <morgan_> ma il canale in italiano non esiste?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> quiet today, linux must be working :)
[12:11] <Dr_willis> its early
[12:12] <Dr_willis> been playing way to much '20 questions' to get the actual 'question' from too many people in varioys linux channel this week. :)
[12:12] <shadeslayer> no its not
[12:12] <shadeslayer> its about 6pm here
[12:12] <Dr_willis> Its alwyas early somewhere. :)
[12:12] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:12] <Dr_willis> its 7AM here
[12:12] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:12] <RurouniJones> !it | morgan_
[12:13] <RurouniJones> READ THAT ^
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> 12:13pm here
[12:13] <Dr_willis> 'its a small world after all....'
[12:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:13] <shadeslayer> Dr_willis: you in the US right
[12:14] <Dr_willis> Indiana - about as Middle of the US as ya can get...
[12:14] <Dr_willis> well almost. :)
[12:14] <Dr_willis> 'The Cross roads of america' is like our state motto., :)
[12:14] <shadeslayer> hehe
[12:15] <Dr_willis> State Bird = Cardinal , State Tree = Tulip
[12:15] <Dr_willis> 'The official state food' = anything with corn and pork!
[12:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:16] <Dr_willis> well its bed time for me..
[12:16] <Dr_willis> and yes.. i got to bed at 7AM .. i work 3rd shift.  :P
[12:17] <drmrhorse> anybody around at this hour?
[12:17] <RurouniJones> What, 9pm? Yes
[12:18] <RurouniJones> Welcome to the internet, fabled land of many timezones
[12:18] <drmrhorse> there are unpopular hours in the world for the internet
[12:18] <drmrhorse> like when the aussies wake up in the morning
[12:19] <drmrhorse> my disk keeps filling up, even though im not adding to it
[12:19] <drmrhorse> when i looked at my log viewer, i see a kernel error that happens several times per second
[12:19] <drmrhorse> so im thinking the errors are making log entries and filling the disk
[12:21] <RurouniJones> Pastie the error
[12:21] <drmrhorse> k
[12:22] <drmrhorse> 01/25/2009 06:30:20 AM	ubuntu	kernel	[ 9178.778629] TKIP: RX tkey->key_idx=1 frame keyidx=2 priv=f4b40540
[12:22]  * RurouniJones stares blankly
[12:22] <RurouniJones> ...right, can't help you
[12:23] <RurouniJones> looks like it is network related I THINK
[12:23] <drmrhorse> what makes you say that?
[12:24] <arditxo> hi all
[12:24] <arditxo> how are you all
[12:24] <arditxo> hope fine
[12:24] <drmrhorse> frustrated, you?
[12:25] <arditxo> could someone help me please
[12:25] <arditxo> hehe
[12:25] <RurouniJones> the acronyms look TCP related
[12:25] <arditxo> I can't change the mouse speed
[12:25] <drmrhorse> k
[12:25] <robin0800> drmrhorse: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-969896.html
[12:25]  * fidji ne joue plus au Go
[12:26] <drmrhorse> thanks robin0800
[12:26] <arditxo> how could I do that?
[12:26] <drmrhorse> theres a thing is the system settings in kde 3.5 i think
[12:27] <drmrhorse> for the mouse thing
[12:27] <arditxo> yeah indeed there is, but the option of speed changing isn't present
[12:27] <arditxo> right now it goes too fast for me
[12:28] <arditxo> I'm using kubuntu 8.10
[12:29] <arditxo> hellooo
[12:29] <arditxo> anyone there?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> !mouse
[12:30] <drmrhorse> the thing under keyboard and mouse, then the mouse tab
[12:30] <drmrhorse> then advanced shows a thing called "pointer acceleration" that can be adjusted
[12:31] <drmrhorse> for me that changes the mouse speed
[12:31] <drmrhorse> anybody know how to clean out the error logs when im though figuring out my problem?
[12:32] <arditxo> yeah right
[12:32] <arditxo> oh gosh, I didn't notice that tab...!
[12:32] <arditxo> :)
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> drmrhorse: rebooting clears the logs
[12:32] <drmrhorse> thanks ActionParsnip1
[12:32] <arditxo> thanks really
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> drmrhorse: but when you boot, new logs are made for the bootup process
[12:33] <drmrhorse> np
[12:33] <drmrhorse> so if i have the same problem it will repeat the disk filling thing all over again
[12:34] <arditxo> since I'm rather a newby I can't help much...
[12:34] <drmrhorse> im a n00b as well
[12:34] <drmrhorse> in case everybody cant tell
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> drmrhorse: everyone is at some time
[12:34] <arditxo> thanks for your help. See you soon :)
[12:35] <a931b1> Hi all
[12:36] <a931b1> How to uninstall drivers
[12:36] <a931b1> on KDE 3.5
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> a931b1: how did you install them
[12:41] <cataldo> chi c'è
[12:43] <drmrhorse> is there a way to list all the files in order of size?
[12:43] <a931b1> From official installer
[12:44] <a931bw> When i'm insalled it all 3d work's shitty
[12:45] <a931bw> without drivers just don't work effect's...
[12:46] <a931bw> ;)
[12:47] <a931bw> >:o*
[12:47] <a931bw> :-[
[12:47] <a931bw> How to uninstall drivers
[12:49] <RurouniJones> Add/Remove programs
[12:49] <RurouniJones> Assuming that is how you added it
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> a931bw: just remove the driver package you installed
[12:56] <tictric_> Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[12:56] <tictric_> I can't access my cdrom
[12:57] <tictric_> anyone knows that?
[12:57] <tictric_> worked before Intrepid
[13:07] <StR|Sangreal> hi... pls how can i restore losing option to set up optacity of windows in kde4?
[13:08] <tictric> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/304954
[13:09] <tictric> I suffer from that.
[13:09] <StR|Sangreal> !optacity
[13:09] <StR|Sangreal> !find optacity
[13:09] <tictric> Is there a known solution?
[13:24] <altctrl> hi guys i have a very annoyig problem
[13:25] <altctrl> i have a toshiba laptop and i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and since then ilose x at random time andit write on the black screen
[13:25] <altctrl> checking battery state
[13:25] <altctrl> and i have to log in to kde again
[13:25] <noir_lord> heh, KDE4 is taking a pounding on slashdot today
[13:26] <altctrl> anyone any idea how can i fix it?
[13:28] <StR|Sangreal> please how can i bring my desktop back to displaying advanced visual effects like window scrolling?
[13:29] <slow-motion> hi
[13:33] <micha__> Hi, does kubuntu support the intel storage matrix RAID system?
[13:35] <pilat> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu Intrepid with kubuntu-experimental PPA enabled. And I'd like to fill bug-report. Where should I go in launchpad?
[13:35] <shadeslayer> !bugs
[13:37] <pilat> Ok, but I'm at loss in defining "related package" or whatever category for this bug... Can somebody assist in this question?
[13:39] <draik> How do I stop particular modules from loading at startup? Specifically, I want to stop lirc from boot since I have nothing for lirc.
[13:42] <pilat> draik: don't know about lirc specifically, but try checking SystemSettings->Advanced->Autostart; another place: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[13:42] <pilat> http://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+blacklist+modules+at+sturtup+Ubuntu
[13:43] <draik> Thanks pilat
[13:44] <StR|Sangreal> please, where can i configure keyboard if it is not present in system>keyboard?
[13:44] <StR|Sangreal> or how can i make it present there?
[13:47] <Schuenemann> StR|Sangreal,  setxkbmap
[13:47] <Schuenemann> setxkbmap -model (model)  -layout (layout) -variant (variant)
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: or you  can add lines in xorg.conf
[13:48] <pilat> here's the bug, which I don't know to which package it's related: I regularly have my input locked. I.e., keybord doesn't respond (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, Ctrl+Alt+F1..F12, all doen't wark as well. Even "Numlock" and such indicators don't react), Also, mouse cursor only moves, but clicks don't work. I can only hard-reset my PC after the lock had happen... :-(
[13:49] <StR|Sangreal> to introduce my problem
[13:50] <StR|Sangreal> since fglrx isnt compatible with ubuntu intrepid amd64, i had to install an open graphic driver... i have no clue how to configure it and sb out here advised me following config
[13:50] <StR|Sangreal> http://pastie.org/370149
[13:50] <StR|Sangreal> the video stopped flickering and the szstem runs more fine
[13:51] <StR|Sangreal> however, i lost the option to setup keyboard, visual effects were disabled and maybe some more troubles i couldnt yet discover
[13:51] <pilat> The exact action, which causes this lock is not defined as well.. Last time it locked when I worked with DigiKam.. Sometimes it locks when I'm trying to close firefox.. But this is not full list of "reasons". It may lock while I do nothing, for example..
[13:51] <draik> Is lirc a module or a service? Either way, I'm not finding it to disable from startup.
[13:52] <pilat> draik: hm.. I don't see "lirc" in my precesses at all..
[13:53] <pilat> draik: what about System settings :: Advanced :: Service manager?
[13:54] <draik> pilat: lirc fails at boot and I don't have anything for lirc to run so I would rather disable it, and possibly other services/modules, to speed up the startup time.
[13:54] <draik> pilat: I'm there now, nothing mentioned.
[13:54] <pilat> and what "modinfo lirc" says?
[13:57] <draik> pilat: modinfo: could not find module lirc
[13:58] <micha__> Hi, does anyone have some experience with the intel storage matrix RAID system?
[13:59] <pilat> StR|Sangreal: I dont's have anything about "Generic Keyboard" in my xorg.conf, and everything is well configured thrugh KDE's system settings. Maybe, ithas a sense to comment this section out (Intrepid uses HAL, which makes quite good work in auto-mode)?
[13:59] <Frederick> Folks what %u stands for when calling an application?
[14:01] <gps23> Frederick, u mean in rox filer?
[14:02] <pilat> draik: do you have TV tuner or such (presuming remote control) installed?
[14:02] <Frederick> what is rox filer?
[14:03] <gps23> Frederick, ignore my message then, there is a %u there too
[14:03] <draik> pilat: Nope. Nothing of the sort.
[14:04] <gps23> Frederick, where have you seen %u?
[14:04] <Frederick> kde in the command to launch aplications from kde menu
[14:04] <Frederick> bash does not lists %u as a command
[14:05] <gps23> Frederick, i don't remember seeing it, its most probably used as a placeholder for something
[14:05] <pilat> draik: maybe "sudo aptitude uninstall lirc"?.. I don't have lirc installed, at all, for example.
[14:06] <draik> pilat: Package lirc is not installed, so not removed
[14:06] <pilat> Frederick: maybe %u stands for "user"? Ayway, this seems to be something application-specific.
[14:07] <pilat> draik: and where you see this program (that it actually works)?
[14:07] <Frederick> pilat: I have it for many apps
[14:07] <pilat> Frederick: in "File type associations"?
[14:08] <Frederick> pilat: no in menu editor
[14:08] <draik> pilat: During boot, I see the things that are being run and lirc fails. I don't have use for lirc and want to stop it from boot.
[14:10] <gps23> Frederick, i found it, its in kmenueditor
[14:10] <gps23> Frederick, seems helpful http://markmail.org/message/tph2s6x3hj36lv6y
[14:10] <philippe_> Hi all
[14:11] <pilat> Frederick: seems to stand for "finename" (e.g.: "kate " - will open file "" with kate editor). But it's for Files types associations.. Don't know if it's applicable to menu editor.
[14:12] <philippe_> KDE4.2RC just did disable compositing because it was too slow , giving a message explaining how to re-anabled it ... but I didn't have the time to read it .... so if anyone knows ...
[14:12] <Frederick> gps23: Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-
[14:13] <StR|Sangreal> please, how can i bring keyboard customisation back into system settings menu?
[14:13] <gps23> Frederick, ps syntax is fine, i executed it
[14:13] <Frederick> in konsole?
[14:13] <gps23> Frederick, in bash, using yakuake terminal
[14:13] <StR|Sangreal> i mean i only have mouse and keyboard shortcuts in system>keyboards
[14:14] <gps23> Frederick, works in konsole too
[14:14] <Frederick> gps23: wierd can you paste here the command you used?
[14:15] <gps23> f = full format, a=all processes -x=show processes w/o tty
[14:16] <Frederick> gps23: I mean the exact command line
[14:16] <gps23> Frederick, ps fax
[14:16] <gps23> Frederick, what are u using?
[14:16] <Black_Monkey> hi, installing the nvidia driver has made my audio completely stop working :/
[14:16] <Frederick> gps23: 11832 ?        Sl     2:04  \_ /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/firefox
[14:16] <Frederick> meh
[14:16] <Frederick> gps23: ps fax | grep firefox
[14:17] <gps23> Frederick, thats fine, what's wrong?
[14:17] <pilat> draik: couldn't find any instance of "lirc" in my system logs..
[14:17] <Frederick> gps23: I stil ldunno what is the %u for
[14:17] <pilat> draik: and I definitely haven't played with this bevore. Do you use Intrepid?
[14:18] <draik> pilat: I wish I could get a screenshot of my computer's startup
[14:18] <draik> Yes, I am on Intrepid.
[14:18] <pilat> draik: find KSystemLogViewer in the menu
[14:19] <gps23> Frederick, me too searching for that :)
[14:19] <pilat> "Applications -> System -> System Logs Viewer", even
[14:19] <Frederick> gps23: I have to go eat now I will be back later can yousend me a private message in case you discover?
[14:19] <Frederick> gps23: we can ask kde dev
[14:19] <Frederick> oki I gotta rush
[14:19] <draik> pilat: Ok. Got it.
[14:20] <Frederick> o/
[14:20] <gps23> Frederick, okey
[14:20] <pilat> draik: than type "lirc" into the "Filter bar"
[14:20] <pilat> this should give some info
[14:22] <draik> Nothing with lirc
[14:22] <gps23> %f - a single file name
[14:22] <gps23>   %F - a list of files; use for applications that can open several local files at once
[14:22] <gps23>   %u - a single URL
[14:22] <gps23>   %U - a list of URLs
[14:22] <gps23>   %d - the folder of a file to open
[14:22] <gps23>   %D - a list of folders
[14:22] <gps23>   %i - the icon
[14:22] <gps23>   %m - the mini icon
[14:22] <gps23>   %c - the caption
[14:23] <gps23> sorry, what i was trying to send using private message contained newlines
[14:23] <bitmonster> hi. i have a raid hdd that features usb and sata connections. unfortunately the installation only works via usb as the bios only support boot from usb. to support sata i own a pcmcia controller which i want to boot from a usb stick (/boot is already installed on the stick). how can i use e.g. rdinit to provide the necessary modules of the pcmcia controller to migrate from usb connectivity to sata connectivity of the hdd?
[14:24] <bitmonster> and how can i find which are the appropriate modules?
[14:26] <pilat> draik: another point: do you have "lirc" in the list of processes? (Alt+F2; then click <Show system activity> Icont)?
[14:27] <draik> pilat: No, it's not running. It fails at boot so I guess it doesn't run.
[14:28] <pilat> Frederick: KDE Help center -> Application manuals -> Settings -> Menu editor; There is some info on how to use it (including the meaning of "" and others)
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> gps23: use pastebin for that sort of text dude, scrolling is bad netiquette
[14:29] <gps23> ActionParsnip1, that was an accident, sorry
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> gps23: np man
[14:31] <aboSamoor> trying to add the repository here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2 I can find a way to authenticate this repository
[14:31] <aboSamoor> ?
[14:32] <pilat> draik: couldn't find it in the conf/init files as well (sudo grep -ir "irc" /etc/*), except of couple of lines, in /etc/bash_completion and in /mplayer/input.conf... Maybe, that's some hardware checks by kernel (not even a module, but the core)?
[14:33] <pilat> draik: if it's not running after you start, you may simply ignor these messages, I suggest.
[14:33] <draik> pilat: I think you're right. It loads and fails because it isn't installed (I'm assuming that's what is happening).
[14:35] <aboSamoor> I can not find a way to authenticate the RC1 repo*, please can you help me ?
[14:36] <flithm> Hey everyone... I'm looking for the header file "kateviewinternal.h" and I can't find it any of the dev packages.  Anyone know if there's a package with this file?
[14:38] <ka> Hi. Is there a app(with GUI) that can perform removal of text in multiple files in linux?
[14:39] <Adola> ka  You can try a program called FSlint
[14:39] <Adola> It searches files for certain things.  I also believe you can remove them with it
[14:39] <ka> hm I even have that app installed... I ll check
[14:41] <kalp> need help with kubuntu interpid display
[14:41] <kalp> any expert on this?
[14:41] <ka> Hm nope it can't do what I need. I need to remove a trojan from my webpages... It has inserted a javascript into most of my html files.
[14:42] <ka> kalp: What is it you need help with?
[14:42] <kalp> on my laptop,
[14:43] <ka> Just say what you need help with. What you have written so far isn't much to go on...
[14:43] <kalp> i chose sum desktop effects and now i dont see anything wen it boots
[14:43] <kalp> it books ok, but the screen is all balck
[14:43] <kalp> *boots
[14:44] <kalp> *black
[14:44] <ka> Is the whole screen black or do see a commandline?
[14:44] <kalp> entire thing is black and jus coz i know where the icons are , i click and log out
[14:46] <ka> ok no problem...
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: do you get a logon screen when you boot?
[14:47] <ka> I just need to find the config file that you need to change
[14:48] <kalp> yes, i do get a login screen
[14:48] <ka> kalp: Doyou use compiz or are we talking about KDE4 effects?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: thats good
[14:48] <kalp> i put in the password then the desktop is all black, its default , so i am positive its kde4
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: you could drop to root console boot and rename ~/.kde
[14:51] <ka> ActionParsnip1: Couldn't he just delete the kwinrc file in .kde/share/config folder As far as I can see this is the file controlling the settings for desktop effects
[14:51] <kalp> wen i login from terminal to root login, the touch pad isnt workin, so cant do anything there
[14:52] <kalp> is that a solution that can be done from terminal?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: i'd do what ka recommends, but rename instead, if that doesnt fly, rename the whole thing
[14:52] <kalp> kwinrc isit?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> ka: advising rename is better, users can rollback if necessary
[14:53] <Black_Monkey> does anyone have any idea why installing the nvidia graphics driver should make me lose audio?
[14:53] <kalp> ~/.kde , what is this? sorry guys i am new to this
[14:53] <gps23> kalp, i think better way is to open kwinrc file and change line compositing=true to compisiting=false
[14:53] <kalp> ok
[14:53] <kalp> do u kno the path for kwinrc file?
[14:54] <kalp> i cud do that in nano
[14:54] <ka> it is /home/Yourusername/.kde/share/config
[14:54] <gps23> kalp, when u reach logon prompt, open console using ctrl-alt-f1
[14:54] <ka> or rather .kde/share/config/kwinrc
[14:54] <gps23> kalp, then use vim/nano to open and edit file described by ka
[14:54] <kalp> k
[14:55] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: reach logon, hit session type and change it to console logon
[14:55] <kalp> guys thanks , i wil try that right away
[14:55] <ka> kalp: have you used vi or nano before?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: it will drop you to console where you can login as normal and rename the file
[14:55] <kalp> nano, i have
[14:55] <ka> ok then you are all set.
[14:56] <ka> So guys any one recal my earlier question? About deleting the same text in multiple files with a gui app?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> ka: you can use awk and cut
[14:57] <gps23> ka, why don't u used sed?
[14:57] <gps23> use*]
[14:57] <gps23> use*
[14:58] <ka> yes I find many links to sed, but somehow the commands for sed dont seem to work because of the multiline blob I need to remove...
[14:59] <ActionParsnip1> ka: then use a find exec combo to find multiple files
[14:59] <ka> But then again I suspect there is a sed command for this to.
[14:59] <gps23> ka, use s/// with replacement text as ""
[15:00] <ka> I just read a post saying that they used wingrep to remove the offending lines of code and I thoight well linux probably has something like this to...
[15:00] <kalp> guys, how do i save the changes in nano?
[15:00] <gps23> ctrl w
[15:01] <ka> isn't it ctrl o?
[15:01] <PodeCoet> I can't write to any SD cards under Kubuntu and it's driving me crackers. If I start virtualbox, I can write to the card under XP
[15:01] <kalp> ctrl w is "where is" find i guess
[15:01] <PodeCoet> but not natively under kubuntu, keeps saying read only
[15:02] <Schuenemann> it's ctrl o, yes
[15:02] <gps23> kalp, sorry, its ctrl o
[15:02] <gps23> kalp, hit ctrl x after editing file, it will ask for save and then exit
[15:02] <kalp> now how do i go in gui mode from terminal?
[15:03] <ka> just do ctrl alt f7
[15:03] <ka> or startx
[15:03] <gps23> if u sed ztrl-atrl-f1 to go to console then use ctrl-atl-f7
[15:03] <gps23> used*
[15:04] <kalp> k
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> PodeCoet: how are you mounting it and what filesystem is the card using?
[15:05] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip1: It's automounting, and I believe it's vfat
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> PodeCoet: if you run mount, you will see the mount options it has used to mount it, check it is mounted rw
[15:06] <gps23> ka, u can try: for file in `find <path>`; do sed -i s/<regex for script>// $file ; done;
[15:06] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip1: says readonly, just confirmed it's FAT32. How do I make it automount as writable?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> PodeCoet: no idea, i never use automount, you can remount it as rw though
[15:07] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip1: Tried this: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/disk-1
[15:07] <PodeCoet> and got this: mount: block device /dev/sdd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[15:07] <PodeCoet> it's not actually write protected
[15:08] <PodeCoet> (again it works under WinXP guest under virtualbox)
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> PodeCoet: unmount it, then run sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/disk-1 -o rw,noatime,user
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> PodeCoet: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=318175
[15:09] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip1: same error ;\
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> PodeCoet: read the link, it may help
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> !mount | PodeCoet
[15:11] <PodeCoet> thanks, looking into it
[15:11] <gps23> kalp, here is the shortcut for ur task: kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled --type bool false
[15:12] <kalp> frens, the problem persisits, only the screen is all white now!!
[15:12] <kalp> now its turned black
[15:12] <gps23> ?
[15:12] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip1: huh... It seems to be a compatibility issue with my card reader and Kubuntu, I just shoved the SD card into my Mio satnav, and I can read/write fine via kubuntu!
[15:12] <gps23> [Compositing]
[15:12] <gps23> Enabled=false
[15:12] <gps23> kalp, u changed this?
[15:13] <kalp> yes
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> PodeCoet: looks like kubuntu is the system for you
[15:13] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip1: I dont get it :P
[15:13] <gps23> kalp, please tell me again what u did
[15:13] <PodeCoet> ActionParsnip1: but thanks for your help thus far
[15:14] <pat__> Hi all, why when i plug in my external hard drive is it owned by root?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> me neither, weird
[15:14] <gps23> kalp, i mean, what u did when the problem came
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> pat__: if it automounts then no, you may need to mount it manually to get user writability
[15:14] <W8TAH> hi folks - im running intrepid  with the kde4.2 beta, for some reason, kde will only let me have 2 desktops instead of the 4 i want - i have repeatedly set the number of desktops to 4 --- any ideas?
[15:15] <pat__> @ w8tah:  try logging out and in again
[15:15] <W8TAH> this is a long running problem -- since intrepid was installed
[15:15] <ActionParsnip1> W8TAH: is this in compiz by any chance?
[15:15] <W8TAH> ive doen so over and over
[15:15] <kalp> i opened the kwinrc file from terminal in nano and edited it, makin the effects false and saved the file, closed it and opened gui mode
[15:15] <W8TAH> in compiz and in the standard kde desktop
[15:15] <kalp> as i login in, its still the same
[15:16] <ActionParsnip1> W8TAH: in ccsm you can set horizontal desktop size
[15:16] <W8TAH> ok - looking
[15:16] <gps23> kalp, no i am asking what u changed in kde, due to which the problem occurred
[15:16] <kalp> gps23, u mean why it happened?
[15:16] <gps23> kalp, yes
[15:16] <kalp> i enabled some dektop effects
[15:17] <gps23> kalp, if that would have been the reason, then it should have worked
[15:17] <gps23> kalp, u should now try renaming the .kde to something else
[15:18] <kalp> .kde , the entire folder?
[15:18] <gps23> kalp, yup, the only effect will be that it will set everything to default
[15:18] <W8TAH> ActionParsnip1: can you tell me where in ccsm -- im not seeing it
[15:18] <aboSamoor> after adding the Kubuntu 4.2 repo i faced dependency problem can you help me ? this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/109418/ ?
[15:19] <gps23> kalp, like it was when u logged in the first time
[15:19] <kalp> wats the command for renamong?
[15:19] <kalp> renaming?
[15:19] <gps23> kalp, mv
[15:19] <gps23> kalp, mv .kde .kde-backup
[15:19] <pat__> @ ActionParsnip: Kubuntu automounts the external drive but its owned my root. Would using chmod alter the permissions so i can rwx? Would I have to add it to fstab?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip1> W8TAH: General options and go to Desktop size. This gives Horizontal virtual size
[15:19] <kalp> k
[15:19] <W8TAH> kool
[15:20] <kalp> k done
[15:21] <gps23> kalp, now try logging in
[15:21] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: do you have a .kde4 folder too?
[15:22] <kalp> i wil av to check that
[15:22] <kalp> its 8.1 , so there must be i guess
[15:22] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: rename that too if you do: mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4_old
[15:23] <kalp> do i av to be connected to internet wen i do all this?
[15:23] <gps23> kalp, nope
[15:25] <kalp> hey!! its done!!
[15:25] <kalp> u guys rock!!!
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: no all thwe folders are on your local system
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> uber
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> wtg duder
[15:25] <gps23> kalp, cool
[15:25] <kalp> where u guys from?
[15:26] <gps23> kalp, remember, most of the things u can damage being a normal user can be corrected by this method :)
[15:26] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: UK
[15:26] <gps23> kalp, India
[15:26] <pat__> Ireland
[15:26] <kalp> myself India too
[15:26] <gps23> kalp, i got it when u renamed urself from sudhir :p
[15:26] <kalp> now i realize the stability of linux!!!
[15:27] <kalp> thats my dads name
[15:27] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: you can do similar in windows in the profile folder
[15:27] <kalp> by renaming the folder?
[15:28] <pat__> is everyone running KDe 4.1?
[15:28] <dsnaike> aboSamoor http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1 follow the instructions
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> pat__: I have the libs and apps but run fluxbox
[15:29] <gps23> kalp, u can now either move the necessary folders back from .kde-backup folder to newly made .kde folder, or if u r like me, u can delete .kde-backup
[15:29] <kalp> gps23, wats the best server for india, mumbai?
[15:29] <kalp> my adept si very slow
[15:29] <kalp> k ,i wil delete .kde-backup
[15:30] <pat__> i install synaptic from 'nome for my package manager, i dont like adept
[15:30] <ActionParsnip1> kalp: you will have to reconfigure your kde apps but it is very quick, stuff like amarok and ktorrent and whatever else
[15:30] <gps23> kalp, i'm using US servers, its set as default i think :p
[15:31] <kalp> mayb its my connection then, coz earlier it was gud speed
[15:32] <gps23> kalp, u can go to software sources, then chose other, and then click select best server to chose the best server automatically
[15:32] <gps23> kalp, however this depends on current traffic etc
[15:33] <White_Pelican> I'm using 4.2 rc2 under intrepid. I am confused as to how to change some of the colors on the desktop. When I mouse over things, it is white text on a black background. How do I change that?
[15:33] <kalp> i did, but the merroring is taking lot of time, its gettin stuck
[15:34] <gps23> kalp, then for a test u can chose main ubuntu's server or a US server
[15:34] <kalp> k
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> White_Pelican: check your theme settings
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> !theme | White_Pelican
[15:37] <White_Pelican> so it's a theme? it's not colors? under appearance?
[15:37] <gps23> White_Pelican, theme decides the colors
[15:38] <EagleScreen> is there any programm equivalent to cheese for KDE?
[15:38] <White_Pelican> ok, the color I'm speaking of, what is that called?
[15:40] <White_Pelican> let's say I pick honeycomb as a theme. I go to colors, and I don't know which item to change. that's what help I need with right now :)
[15:40] <enig> Hello.
[15:41] <enig> I'm in need of a little help for i'm still just beggining in the Linux world
[15:41] <Schuenemann> !ask | enig
[15:41] <kalp> guys, signing off, thanks for all ur help!!
[15:43] <enig> Well here's the deal, i instaled kubuntu, on partitions i choose manual because i already had Ubuntu installed but i like KDE better. and i ticked the format checkbox on the / disk and chose it to instal kubuntu. Everything works but i can't access my 2 other disks. I'm shure i didn't changed anything on them just the disk that i installed Kubuntu. So why can't i access those 2 other disks?
[15:43] <RurouniJones> Definve "access"
[15:44] <enig> Oh and btw, i tried Ubuntu Live CD and it says it can't mount the disks, that i could use a command to force it but on my own risk.
[15:44] <RurouniJones> you mean boot form or access from kubuntu?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> enig: all you had to do was install kubuntu-desktop and you'd have the same
[15:44] <enig> Accesss as in going in to the hard drives and open the files-
[15:44] <Schuenemann> enig,  do a sudo fdisk -l to see if the partitions are still there
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> enig: you will need them adding to fstab if they arent already there
[15:44] <gps23> i can see that asking to ask a question gets more attention :p
[15:45] <enig> Well the 3 hard drives appeared. the ext3 and swap from Linux and the other 2 ntfs i can't acess
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs-3g | enig
[15:47] <gps23> excuse me if off topic, just wanna confirm that is it true that kde lost a user by the name of Linus Torvalds?
[15:47] <enig> oh. so it was all about it couldn't support ntsf?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip1> enig: it does with extra apps
[15:48] <enig> oh. and i thought it was something harder.
[15:48] <enig> because i tried PCLinuxOS and i could read them just fine
[15:48] <enig> I though i did something wrong when installing
[15:49] <SlimeyPete> gps23: where'd you hear that?
[15:49] <SlimeyPete> (it might be true for all I know)
[15:49] <gps23> there is an article in slashdot by computerworld
[15:50] <gps23> s/article/post/
[15:51] <Schuenemann> what is this s/wrong/right everybody use?
[15:52] <gps23> Schuenemann, substitute, used in perl/sed etc
[15:52] <Schuenemann> ahh... it had to be perl X-(
[15:53] <gps23> Schuenemann, it is in perl but sed already had it, don't know whom had it before sed
[15:54] <enig> Well now i get the same error that i got in Ubuntu
[15:54] <enig> Mounting /media/Dados2 failed.
[15:54] <enig> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[15:54] <enig> Failed to mount '/dev/sdc1': Operação não suportada
[15:55] <enig> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[15:55] <enig> Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
[15:55] <enig>           clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[15:55] <enig>           taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.
[15:55] <enig> Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the 'force' option for
[15:55] <enig>           your own responsibility. For example type on the command line:
[15:55] <enig>             mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/Dados2 -o force
[15:55] <enig>     Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file:
[15:55] <enig>             /dev/sdc1 /media/Dados2 ntfs-3g force 0 0
[15:55] <enig> Now what? :s
[15:55] <gps23> !pastebin | enig
[15:57] <enig> oh sorry. didn't know about that
[15:57] <enig> but here it is what i get
[15:57] <enig> http://paste.ubuntu.com/109431/
[15:57] <gps23> enig, np man
[15:57] <aboSamoor> can I know why none is answering my questions ? is there any problem in my questions ? or the answers go to friends ?!!
[15:58] <enig> should i force the mount? or it is that unviable?
[15:58] <gps23> enig, if u have external hard disk then u can try choice 1
[15:59] <enig> yeah but i don't have any.
[15:59] <gps23> aboSamoor, please ask ur question once more friend
[16:00] <gps23> enig, i am not sure but it is possible that ur ntfs drive is already mounted and in use
[16:01] <leo_rockway> greetings
[16:02] <aboSamoor> gps23: I added the KDE 4.2 RC1 repo to my repos. I faced a problem in authentication from that repo when I use update-notifier with ubuntu. I solved that by trying the command way. Now I downloaded the packages but while installing i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/109418/ . so I run apt-get install -f which removed kubuntu-desktop ! Thanks for help :)
[16:02] <enig> I only see one. the bigger disk. and it gives me an error when i try to open it
[16:02] <leo_rockway> are there any plans to backport kde4.2 for hardy when it comes out?
[16:03] <enig> saying that only root can mount a device
[16:03] <dsnaike> aboSamoor did u use this repo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[16:04] <gps23> aboSamoor, how did u authenticated?
[16:04] <gps23> enig, thats true
[16:04] <aboSamoor> dsnaike: yes
[16:05] <aboSamoor> gps23: in terminal it asked me if I want to install un authenticated packages and I said yes
[16:05] <gps23> aboSamoor, afaik u also need to install pgp-keys
[16:05] <gps23> aboSamoor, i needed keys when i added media repo
[16:06] <enig> gps23: oh now i realized, when i type in gksudo ntfs-config i get these 2 errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/109441/
[16:06] <dsnaike> give me a second getting what u need
[16:08] <gps23> enig, these are warnings by libbonobo, seems to be related to gksudo, u can ignore them
[16:08] <dsnaike> aboSammor go here and follow the instructions for intrepid ibex http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1
[16:08] <enig> Now i see the both folders of the disks at /media.  But when i try to go to one or to another i get a black folder with access denied at the bottom.
[16:08] <dsnaike> it's what i used and no problems
[16:09] <enig> blank*
[16:09] <enig> typo
[16:09] <gps23> enig, seems like only root has access rights for these folders
[16:10] <enig> yeah but ain't i suposed to be root? i mean they weren't there before, and when i installed i didn't see anything to configure root
[16:10] <enig> i thought i had root previleges on this user
[16:11] <enig> I was checking out the permissions, The owner is root, but all others can view files.
[16:11] <enig> Still i get access denied
[16:12] <gps23> enig, for directory i think u need execute permissions to list the files
[16:12] <enig> And still giving the "only root can mount the devices"
[16:13] <gps23> enig, as a quick fix u can change owner of the directories
[16:13] <gps23> enig but there has to be a better way
[16:14] <enig> Well i'm reading about the mounting it the manual way.
[16:15] <aboSamoor> gps23: how can i download this gpg packages. I got this error messages after restarting the whole process "Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:15] <aboSamoor>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[16:16] <gps23> enig this is true that only root can do mount/umount
[16:17] <gps23> aboSamoor, may be this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[16:18] <gps23> aboSamoor, i am unable to understand the error though
[16:19] <gps23> enig, mount -t ntfs-3g volume mount_point [-o option[,...]]
[16:21] <gps23> enig, this is a nice link abt same http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[16:21] <enig> i'm ounting at fstab
[16:21] <a931bw>  How to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu 7.04?
[16:21] <enig> already made a backup, now trying as the website says
[16:21] <enig> But will look into that too
[16:24] <a931bw>  How to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu 7.04?
[16:25] <gps23> brb
[16:26] <rav> hello. I have Kubuntu 8.04.2, and I'm using virtualbox to test out Intrepid. Anyone knows how to install the VBoxAddons?
[16:27] <m_tadeu> hi all
[16:28] <m_tadeu> has anyone tried to set a twin view system? I think plasma doesn't support it yep, but....
[16:29] <m_tadeu> I have my first screen ok, but the second is blank, only showing the X cursor
[16:29] <Tm_T> m_tadeu: it does support it well in KDE 4.2
[16:30] <rav> anyone knows if there are equivalent packages for linux-kernel-devel for ubuntu?
[16:30] <m_tadeu> Tm_T: I0m using it...so there must be something I'm doing wrong
[16:30] <jillsmitt> hi people
[16:31] <Tm_T> rav: linux-source ?
[16:32] <Tm_T> m_tadeu: perhaps
[16:32] <rav> Tm_T: i'll give it a try
[16:33] <m_tadeu> Tm_T: any ideas?
[16:33] <Tm_T> m_tadeu: sorry no, haven't tried it myself yet
[16:33] <a931bw>  How to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu 7.04?
[16:34] <m_tadeu> Tm_T: i'll try #kde ;)
[16:34] <Tm_T> a931bw: you cannot unless you compile yourself
[16:34] <Tm_T> a931bw: but, wouldn't make much sense, really
[16:34] <jillsmitt> is there a kubuntu channel for russian users on ru_RU.utf-8?
[16:34] <Tm_T> !ru | jillsmitt
[16:34] <a931bw> Нету((
[16:35] <Tm_T> jillsmitt: that's all I know
[16:35] <a931bw> а там сомневаюсь что помогут пока водку им непоставиш
[16:35] <riorio> !ru | a931bw
[16:35] <Tm_T> a931bw: please no russian in here
[16:36] <jillsmitt> Tm_T: why no ru?
[16:36] <Tm_T> this is english only channel
[16:36] <kalp> hi
[16:36] <Tm_T> wouldn't make much sense to talk all ~150 languages here we have translations
[16:37] <kalp> ppl, is voice chat possible on kopete?
[16:37] <Tm_T> kalp: perhaps with jabber/xmpp, but it's not officially supported yet IIRC
[16:37] <Tm_T> kalp: means, no guaranteed to work
[16:37] <y4y4ng> hi <Tm_t>
[16:38] <jillsmitt> Is anybody from Panama City there?
[16:38] <y4y4ng> err
[16:39] <jillsmitt> I was in FL
[16:40] <Tm_T> y4y4ng: hi hi
[16:40] <kalp> wat abt net telephony?
[16:40] <Tm_T> kalp: no really
[16:41] <kalp> is there an application, not in kopete
[16:44] <askand> I cant burn with k3b..  I get: :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK]: Input/output error
[16:44] <askand> :-( attempt to re-run with -dvd-compat -dvd-compat to engage DAO or apply full blanking procedure
[16:44] <askand> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[16:49] <DaSkreech> Voice should work with yahoo I think
[16:51] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: hmm, does?
[16:51] <DaSkreech> should
[16:51] <DaSkreech> No clue if it does
[16:53] <StR|Sangreal> please, i have just installed my kubuntu and i would like to save configuration, installed packages names and other changes so that i can repeat the same setup in the future... is it possible?
[16:58] <craver> anyone running 4.2 here?
[16:58] <craver> getting "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" when i run speedcrunch.
[17:00] <Unksi> craver: it works well here
[17:01] <craver> crap
[17:01] <craver> ldd /usr/bin/speedcrunch |grep -i Qt
[17:01] <craver>         libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x00007f6045621000)
[17:01] <craver>         libQtXml.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtXml.so.4 (0x00007f6044ec0000)
[17:01] <craver>         libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00007f6044a82000)
[17:02] <Unksi>         libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x00007f20b962a000)
[17:02] <Unksi>         libQtXml.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtXml.so.4 (0x00007f20b8ec9000)
[17:02] <Unksi>         libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x00007f20b8a8b000)
[17:02] <Unksi> have you tried updating?
[17:03] <craver> yes, tried reinstalling speedcrunch today also
[17:03] <Unksi> ok
[17:03] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: Yes it's possible
[17:03] <craver> i have duplicate libs in /opt/project-neon/lib/ so wonder if they are causing a problem.
[17:04] <Unksi> i have the amarok 2 repo cinstalled as well, dunno if it affects it
[17:04] <Unksi> i dont think it shouldnt if you are not running neon
[17:06] <craver> KDE Version 4.2.60
[17:06] <StR|Sangreal> DaSkreetch: how?
[17:07] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: copy your /etc directory and ~/.* somewhere safe
[17:07] <Unksi> craver: 4.1.96 here
[17:07] <Unksi> 4.2rc1
[17:07] <DaSkreech> That's an essential copy of every setting file that affects you
[17:07] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: I don't know exactly what you want to keep settings for so I can't give more specific info
[17:07] <StR|Sangreal> what will it cause?
[17:08] <DaSkreech> In terms of what?
[17:08] <DaSkreech> craver: 4.2.60>
[17:08] <StR|Sangreal> i want to keep applications and dependancies, plugins and some relevant settings
[17:08] <craver> yes
[17:08] <DaSkreech> There is no 4.2.60
[17:08] <DaSkreech> KDE version ?
[17:08] <Unksi> DaSkreech: guess thats a nightly
[17:09] <craver> K Desktop Environment
[17:09] <craver> Version 4.2.60 (KDE 4.2.60 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090116))
[17:09] <DaSkreech> Ah trunk
[17:09] <DaSkreech> Where did you get that frm ?
[17:09] <DaSkreech> from?
[17:09] <Unksi> neon repo^
[17:09] <craver> yes
[17:10] <craver> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main
[17:10] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: You can't keep applications. You can do a package export and reinstall pretty easy
[17:11] <StR|Sangreal> so it is
[17:11] <StR|Sangreal> thats what i mean
[17:11] <StR|Sangreal> so what would you recommend me to do?
[17:12] <Guest65092> test
[17:12] <jason> woopwoop
[17:13] <DaSkreech> !test
[17:13] <Guest65092> hmm alittle new to this... I am trying to install soprano-deamon but it conflicts with libsoprano-dev the conflicting file is the same in both packages and apt-get --force yes won't work any help
[17:13] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: Well if you want all your apps and settings and plugins then export your package list (I'll get you a URL for that soon) and backup /etc and ~/.*
[17:14] <Guest65092> I see that there is a bug report filed but I can't find a solution
[17:16] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-restore-all-installed-packages-in.html
[17:17] <craver> just going to use abakus instead
[17:17] <nathan__345> is there a better way to force a package to overwrite a file?
[17:21] <DaSkreech> sudo ?
[17:21] <s0101> plz help my desktop is bigger than my screen, after i did a large update i restarted the comp and it said on restart that it would run with less graphich
[17:22] <s0101> i have hrdy heron 8.04
[17:22] <s0101> hardy
[17:23] <s0101> what can i do?
[17:24] <rav> s0101: do you have a Nvidia graphics card?
[17:24] <s0101> yes
[17:24] <jillsmitt> s0101: are propr. drivers installed?
[17:24] <s0101> it worked perfeft before
[17:25] <rav> s0101: do 'sudo aptitude install envyng-core'
[17:25] <rav> s0101: every time you update the kernel, you have to reinstall the driver
[17:25] <s0101> it ask me if i want to continue yes or know
[17:26] <rav> s0101: yes
[17:26] <s0101> i write yes but it dosent work
[17:26] <s0101> i did your comand
[17:26] <s0101> sorry
[17:26] <s0101> it is working
[17:27] <s0101> i have swedish settings and it did ask me in swedish but i changed Ja to yes
[17:27] <s0101> i have installed it
[17:27] <s0101> whats next?
[17:27] <rav> s0101: once it finishes installing, do 'sudo envyng -t'
[17:28] <s0101> yes and next
[17:28] <rav> s0101: follow the menu, choose to install the Nvidia driver
[17:29] <carlossnchez> hello can someone help me with compiz please?
[17:29] <s0101> i am waiting for the install
[17:29] <s0101> :)
[17:29] <rav> carlossnchez: what's the problem?
[17:30] <s0101> my internet has been slow today thts why the install is taking time
[17:30] <carlossnchez> i went to the compiz fusion setup and to make cube is ctrl alt down but i cannot do
[17:30] <carlossnchez> can we go to an individual conversation?
[17:31] <craver> cause ctrl-alt-down is reserved for something else
[17:31] <craver> flatten cube i believe
[17:31] <rav> s0101: just follow the instructions and your driver should work correctly
Downyes, flatten cube
[17:32] <s0101> ok
[17:32] <carlossnchez> im pressing now, doesnt occur something
[17:32] <craver> Unfold is what it's called
[17:32] <carlossnchez> ok thanks unfold
[17:32] <craver> in ccsm --> Desktop --> Desktop Cube
[17:33] <craver> just change it to something else
[17:34] <robinr> How do I perform an integrity check of all installed programs?
[17:34] <robinr> something like rpm's rpm --verify -a
[17:34] <s0101> It asked me to restart and i did
[17:34] <s0101> what is the next step?
[17:35] <rav> s0101: you should have everything working correctly now
[17:35] <s0101> screen is still big and the text where i write my user name looks small and ugly
[17:36] <s0101> sorry i am activating the driver
[17:36] <s0101> brb just one more restart
[17:37] <carlossnchez> sorry i vsnt
[17:37] <carlossnchez> dorry i cant
[17:40] <rav> carlossnchez: hablas español?
[17:41] <s0101> thanks mate it is working but just one question
[17:41] <rav> s0101: yes?
[17:41] <s0101> is there any option to chose how big the desktop should be?
[17:42] <rav> s0101: it depends on the resolution you're using
[17:42] <carlossnchez> si si hab lo español
[17:42] <s0101> where do i check?
[17:42] <RurouniJones> !se | carlossnchez
[17:42] <RurouniJones> whoops
[17:42] <RurouniJones> !es | carlossnchez
[17:43] <s0101> 800 times 600
[17:43] <carlossnchez> thanks
[17:43] <rav> s0101: In System Settings. you can choose a bigger resolution
[17:44] <s0101> i only have 640*480 and 800*600
[17:45] <rav> s0101: you can try changing the monitor type, you're probably using the generic one
[17:45] <s0101> i use plug n play
[17:46] <s0101> in which menu?
[17:46] <rav> s0101: it works in most cases, but if you don't have higher resolutions, it's not detecting them or your screen doesn't have them
[17:46] <s0101> is it same menu as the resolution?
[17:47] <s0101> it says unknown
[17:47] <Guest20091> hi
[17:47] <s0101> for the screen
[17:47] <rav> s0101: on the hardware tab
[17:48] <s0101> where can i find?
[17:48] <rav> s0101: you have to click the 'Administrator mode' button, and then the 'Configure' button
[17:49] <s0101> i am looking for it
[17:49] <s0101> sorry i am a bit gren
[17:49] <s0101> green
[17:49] <kaminix> [18:35] [490]  Hidden hosts only (+q), You must hide your host using +q to join this channel.  <-- How would I do this in Konversation?
[17:50] <s0101> cant find it
[17:52] <s0101> are you still here?
[17:53] <s0101> now i cant activate more desktop efects
[17:54] <s0101> maybe a upgrade to version 8.10 would fix it?
[17:54] <syockit> what do you suggest for backups: lzma, bz2, zip, or tar.gz?
[17:55] <dhq> i need to buy an external harddrive which is the best compatible with ubuntu 1tb please tell me the best one
[18:05] <Lynoure> I have a P5Q pro motherboard, and it seems Kubuntu alternative installer does not detect the network card. I kind of think the live cd did, but not 100% sure.
[18:05] <DaSkreech> syockit: bz2 for space tar.gz for being able to get it out anywhere
[18:05] <DaSkreech> Kind of did?
[18:05] <Lynoure> Any ideas? I need the alternative to get software raid from the getgo...
[18:06] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I kind of think. I know it works in Windows...
[18:06] <syockit> DaSkreech: lzma should be better for space? Never mind, I got everything from http://www.maximumcompression.com/data/summary_mf3.php . Gonna go for lzop
[18:06] <DaSkreech> What is in your /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[18:06] <DaSkreech> syockit: aight
[18:07] <xliquid> hey folks...
[18:07] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I did not get far enough to get one, it said no network card detected...
[18:07] <DaSkreech> o_O
[18:07] <DaSkreech> sudo lshw -c Network
[18:07] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: you have forgotten me, I can tell.
[18:08] <DaSkreech> No :)
[18:08] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: did not go through the install, stopped there to reboot to win to see the card did not die.
[18:08] <DaSkreech> Just trying to help while cleaning the house so I'm a bit terse
[18:08] <DaSkreech> Ah ok
[18:08] <DaSkreech> well if the live CD works grab the /etc/network directory and save it
[18:09] <DaSkreech> The /etc/mod* might help as well
[18:09] <mefisto_> that should be uppercase C, as in lshw -C Network
[18:09] <ubuntu> hi
[18:09] <xliquid> i understand this is the place to come if you get stuck using ubuntu
[18:09] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: It looked like a driver problem.
[18:09] <DaSkreech> mefisto_: I think it doesn't matter but I normally use -C
[18:09] <ubuntu> it's my first time with ubuntu :P
[18:09] <DaSkreech> xliquid: Close
[18:09] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Welcome!!
[18:10] <mefisto_> DaSkreech: lowercase -c won't work
[18:10] <DaSkreech> Fair enough
[18:10] <ubuntu> thanks daskreech ^^ I'm from Spain
[18:10] <ubuntu> my english is too bad :P
[18:10] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Great Would you like to speak in Espanol ?
[18:11] <mefisto_> xliquid: you're in the right place. just ask your question
[18:11] <ubuntu> do you speaking spanish?
[18:11] <DaSkreech> !es
[18:11] <kaminix> To where does the edict package install?
[18:11] <ubuntu> oks ubottu
[18:12] <xliquid> well im hoping someone can point me in the right direction. im fairly new at ubuntu. so far i have been able to figure things out on my own or search the web for answers. this question has got me stumped... im trying to figure out how to get Transmistion or uTorrent to download stuff to a shared network drive. i can see the drive when i go to places> network> windows network> computer name> F:\ and i can brows around the drive.. open, edit, delete files fr
[18:14] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: seems to work fine in normal installer, too bad I need raid1 and lvm
[18:14] <DaSkreech> xliquid: Hmm this is in Gnome?
[18:14] <xliquid> did i say something wrong?
[18:15] <xliquid> ...?
[18:15] <DaSkreech> no just that Gnome handles networks differently from KDE
[18:15] <xliquid> oh sorry, didnt notice the scroll bar hadnt caught up
[18:15] <DaSkreech> So #ubuntu would be much more knowlegeable in answering that particular question
[18:16] <xliquid> ok
[18:17] <Pconfig> hey, i've got some kind of font problem since KDE 4.2 beta ==> KDE 4.2 RC
[18:17] <Pconfig> anti aliasing doesn't seem to work anymore
[18:17] <Pconfig> fonts are really ugly
[18:17] <Pconfig> anyone else had this?
[18:18] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: Should be able to get it working
[18:18] <Pconfig> (already tried setting my fonts back to default)
[18:18] <rause> weeeee let's go jajajaja
[18:18] <rause> i'm running on irc hispano jeje
[18:18] <rause> thanks DaSkreech
[18:18] <try4ce> Hey my Windows XP installation is messed up and won't boot anymore. I want to repair it but I think the GRUB is preventing me from booting my XP CD.
[18:18] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: yes, by migrating to raid and lvm manually, I guess, it's just many times as much work :(
[18:19] <DaSkreech> well I was saying that you can do alternate install and then get network working
[18:19] <DaSkreech>  Though it really should work
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Did hardy have RAID and LVM?
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Should.
[18:20] <DaSkreech> You can do a minimal install of that then upgrade to Ibex and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:20] <mefisto_> try4ce: grub won't prevent booting from CD. if grub loads, then you've booted in grub. you need to boot from CD before the PC looks at the disk for something to boot into
[18:21] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I'm not sure if hardy has the network support... another disk to burn.
[18:21] <draik> I have a DVD iso on my desktop. I want to cut out a snippet from the video. How do I do this?
[18:21] <try4ce> Hmm. Well my CDROM is listed as the first boot device but I'm not sure why it still goes to GRUB first, even when I disable other boot devices.
[18:21] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: Yeah Boo
[18:21] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: big boo to kubuntu, yeah.
[18:22] <DaSkreech> Well those scripts are simply copied from Ubuntu which are modified from Debian so not sure where the break is
[18:23] <harjot> d
[18:23] <harjot> hello
[18:23] <harjot> can i have help plz
[18:23] <mefisto_> try4ce: some machines will let you hit F8 on startup which will bring up a window that lets you select the boot device. you could try that. (hit F8 repeatedly before boot process starts)
[18:23] <DaSkreech> harjot: With?
[18:23] <DaSkreech> or F12
[18:24] <harjot> does anybody know how to write gambas?
[18:24] <try4ce> Hmm sounds worth a try. I didn't see that option listed but I can try.
[18:24] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: When does the Alternate Cd break?
[18:24] <DaSkreech> gambas is like basic I think
[18:24] <mefisto_> try4ce: have you tried other boot CDs? eg kubuntu liveCD?
[18:24] <DaSkreech> So you should be able to use any Qbasic tutorial and write in gambas
[18:24] <harjot> i know  i got it but how do u launch an app from it?
[18:25] <DaSkreech> !info gambas
[18:25] <try4ce> I haven't tried yet. I've got some other Linux discs I could try.
[18:25] <DaSkreech> ha
[18:25] <DaSkreech> harjot: Compile i think
[18:25] <harjot> ???????????
[18:25] <DaSkreech> Then run the reslting executable file
[18:25] <DaSkreech> harjot: #gambas might help
[18:25] <try4ce> Thanks for the advice, I'll be back if I still can't get it...
[18:26] <jussi01> !info gambas2
[18:26] <harjot> i have got gambas the program to make stuff but when i want the program i make to launch an app i dont understand how to do that from gambas
[18:26] <harjot> by the way im on hardy
[18:27] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: it says at the point when it's detecting network hardware that it cannot find any.
[18:27] <Walzmyn> Interesting, i just joined the room because i'm having trouble installing gambas.
[18:27] <DaSkreech> Walzmyn: try gambas2
[18:27] <harjot> ive installed gambas 2 from the synaptic
[18:28] <Walzmyn> DaSkreech, was. Adept is telling me the install is broken, how do i get it to gimme more information about WHY?
[18:28] <DaSkreech> Adept is a little funky in Ibex
[18:28] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: so I could install it, but then end up without network... maybe different kernel in those two. In that case could be as easy as getting a newer kernel on a stick.
[18:28] <Walzmyn> DaSkreech, i'm on 8.04
[18:28] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get -f install from the command line
[18:28] <DaSkreech> Close adept first
[18:28] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: possibly but more likely it's modules
[18:29] <harjot> Walzmyn: You should type sudo apt-get install gambas2
[18:30] <harjot> how do i make MY PROGRAM launch another program?
[18:30] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: those come in the kernel .deb too, me thinks.
[18:30] <DaSkreech> harjot: That's a language question I'd hope that basic has a System() call
[18:30] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: Good point :)
[18:31] <harjot> so what do i type?
[18:31] <Walzmyn> wow, there's a bunch of missing dependicies
[18:34] <Walzmyn> so, why would i be experiencing broken dependencies when no one else is?
[18:34] <harjot> wat do i type when u were saying about a system call
[18:34] <DaSkreech> harjot: I don't know ask in #gambas
[18:38] <harjot> darkscreech they arent helping cause they dont say anthing?
[18:39] <DaSkreech> :-)
[18:39] <DaSkreech> of course not
[18:39] <harjot> so wat do i do?
[18:40] <harjot> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????//////???//?????????????????????????????
[18:40] <DaSkreech> http://gambasdoc.org/help/doc/release?view
[18:40] <DaSkreech> harjot: please stop that
[18:40] <Walzmyn> dude, don't spam the channel
[18:41] <harjot> soz
[18:41] <harjot> ty
[18:42] <paolo_> hi, in which folder are the application icons (vlc, konqueror, firefox etc.) located ?
[18:43] <Walzmyn> paolo i don't know, but someone in #kde might be able to help you with that.
[18:43] <beth_> is there a way to use the prerelease version of just one package?
[18:43] <paolo_> Walzmyn: right
[18:44]  * rause listen Bomfunk MC - Turn it up
[18:46] <seele> how do you set browser identification in firefox? i didnt see it in the preferences menu
[18:47] <syockit> seele: You mean user agents? maybe in about:config
[18:47] <syockit> better yet, download user agent switcher
[18:48] <KDesk> I can configure my display to turn off automatcly, it turns "off" but the backlight is still on, what can I do? What component is the probelm? Xserver, driver, KDE?
[18:49] <syockit> Ahh paolo_'s gone! i wanted to tell him /usr/share/pixmaps !
[18:50] <syockit> beth_: you can enable repositories temporarily. After installing the packages, you can disable it. You get no update notifications though
[18:52] <beth_> that's acceptable, but there's no way to flag just one package to update from a different repository?
[18:52] <seele> syockit: yes, that's it.  thanks
[18:56] <DaSkreech> seele: Extension AFAIR
[18:57] <DaSkreech> beth_: No
[18:58] <stnormal> hey, I kind of hosed my kubuntu install trying to get a program to work. There was a conflict that required me to uninstall kubuntu-desktop, I figured worst case I'd just be stuck with a terminal, but it still tries to render the GUI and absolutely nothing works
[18:58] <leo_rockway> is there any replacement for http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/dists/hardy/ ? I want to install KDE4.2RC but Hardy's packages are empty
[18:58] <stnormal> I tried booting into the recovery mode, but I can't reinstall kubuntu-desktop because there's no internet access
[18:59] <syockit> next time someone could try developing package manager which downloads specific packages from a repo. That'll introduce dependency hells!
[19:00] <stnormal> any ideas for how I could get to a terminal through the regular boot sequence, or get internet access in the recovery mode?
[19:00] <syockit> leo_rockway: hardy's far too old for that. maintenance is a pain in the ///
[19:00] <leo_rockway> syockit: so I take it there won't be a backport of 4.2 final?
[19:01] <beth_> I want to pull a newer kernel, so I enabled the prerelease sources and updated, I see it now when I search, but I don't know all the different components I'd need to pull in to get a working kernel, is there a virtual package to make this easier?
[19:01] <syockit> stnormal: Depends on method of connection. You can boot as single user mode and select command prompt (it's usually the second line during grub)
[19:02] <syockit> stnormal: if it's wifi, you'll have to know the command line for wifi managers
[19:02] <stnormal> the second line during grub is "recovery mode", and I don't know the command line to get my internet connection to work
[19:02] <stnormal> it's not wifi
[19:03] <DaSkreech> stnormal: at grub press e twice then at the end type single then press enter then b
[19:03] <stnormal> k
[19:03] <syockit> stnormal: hmm. do you have live CD?
[19:03] <DaSkreech> beth_: linux-image
[19:03] <saran> hi
[19:03] <stnormal> I do have the live CD
[19:04] <beth_> DaSkreech thanks
[19:04] <syockit> stnormal: if you do, you can chroot and repair packages
[19:04] <syockit> live CD is slow tho
[19:04] <stnormal> anyhow, I can get to the kubuntu log-in screen
[19:04] <syockit> I use live usb
[19:04] <syockit> stnormal: and login fails?
[19:04] <stnormal> will one of the session types/menu options get me to a prompt?
[19:04] <stnormal> no, the GUI is hosed
[19:04] <stnormal> nothing gets rendered right
[19:05] <DaSkreech> stnormal: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[19:05] <beth_> DaSkreech: it says the following packages are broken linux-generic, it doesn't list modules either
[19:05] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get 0f install
[19:05] <DaSkreech> -f install
[19:05] <altrortla> heiiii buddies.... i'm looking for handicap people hardware and software solution any tips?
[19:05] <stnormal> as soon as I can get to a prompt with internet access, I'm just going to reinstall kubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies
[19:05] <syockit> stnormal: that's more of xorg trouble. yup, you should repair them packages. but no internet, you say?
[19:06] <syockit> stnormal: can you see what ifconfig does
[19:06] <stnormal> uhh, if I get back to the recovery console
[19:06] <stnormal> let me try a few things first
[19:06] <stnormal> nice, the login screen had an option for console login, i should be fine
[19:07] <DaSkreech> :-)
[19:07] <DaSkreech> stnormal: or failsafe
[19:07] <DaSkreech> it opens X and a xterm
[19:07] <DaSkreech> You will have to put kwin& as the first command but you should be ok after that
[19:07] <syockit> okay, xorg's still safe then
[19:08] <stnormal> yeah... the long version of my problem is that I've got a really poorly designed piece of scientific software that I'm trying to get to work (Gaussview), and I noticed that the MesaGL library it uses is the software one
[19:08] <syockit> altrortla: They go by the name "Accessibilites"
[19:08] <syockit> altrortla: look for it in System Settings
[19:09] <stnormal> so I figured I'd remove the hardware ones to see if that made it work right, but that required removing kubuntu-desktop
[19:09] <stnormal> and that hosed things
[19:10] <stnormal> is there a way to run ubuntu without anything (KDE/Gnome) over X server?
[19:10] <syockit> stnormal: yes, you can run with just window managers, and lots of terminals
[19:10] <DaSkreech> yes
[19:11] <stnormal> so how would I go from kubuntu to that?
[19:11] <stnormal> what would I have to remove/disable?
[19:11] <DaSkreech> install ubuntu-server and don't install *-desktop packages
[19:11] <DaSkreech> see #fluxbuntu
[19:11] <DaSkreech> !puregnome
[19:12] <stnormal> k
[19:12] <stnormal> thanks
[19:12] <altrortla> syockit: thanks for tips... but i'm looking for some complex solution... this man have more problem (he do not have hands abilities, he can use only eyes)
[19:13] <syockit> altrortla: sorry, I didn't see the hardware part
[19:14] <csc_> is there a way to not be prompted for installing updates of specific packages only ? i have an updater daemon running on the desktop but i dont want to unselect the packages i modified for my needs  each time
[19:17] <syockit> csc_: is that you beth?
[19:17] <syockit> csc_: or I got the wrong person
[19:17] <DaSkreech> csc_: aptitude can pin packages
[19:18] <syockit> csc_: for now, you can only tell package manager to hold
[19:18] <syockit> csc_: aptitude uses a different state file. U need to use dpkg
[19:18] <syockit> csc_: for easy task, use either synaptic or adept
[19:19] <beth_> what is the current version of the kernel for stable intrepid?
[19:19] <beth_> is it 2.6.27-9 or 2.6.27-11?
[19:19] <stnormal> -9, i think
[19:19] <dapper-daniel> Is anyone here using XEN 3.3 with Nividia drivers? Drivers compile fine but X.org freezes...
[19:19] <beth_> ok thanks
[19:19] <syockit> csc_: sorry, adept doesn't seem to have that. use synaptic for gui
[19:19] <stnormal> i haven't gotten any prompts to upgrade from -9 yet, that's all I'm going on
[19:20] <laadissi> a
[19:20] <KDesk> How can I make openoffice to use the oxygen icons?
[19:21] <beth_> I'm seeing -9 it's just on another system I had -11 so I thought maybe something was up
[19:21] <beth_> I probably just had prerelease selected on that one is all
[19:26] <WishingMaster> can anyone tell me a command to check installed packs ?
[19:27] <jussi01> WishingMaster: like: dpkg -l
[19:27] <jussi01> ?
[19:27] <WishingMaster> hmmmm let me try that 1 jussi01
[19:29] <syockit> KDesk: In tools>options, under openoffice.org>view, see Icon & style
[19:29] <syockit> KDesk: btw, that was version 3.0 . It might be slightly different
[19:30] <KDesk> syockit: thank you!
[19:30] <dtchen> syockit: did you get the necessary policykit bits installed?
[19:31] <KDesk> syockit: Hmm, but I dont have the oxygen option in 2.4.1, do you have that option in 3? Are you using 8.10 or 9.04?
[19:31] <syockit> dtchen: maybe it was galaxy
[19:32] <syockit> dtchen: wrong person
[19:33] <WishingMaster> dpkg -l shows the packages but when i try to remove some of them the system says that they are not installed,could you tell me what to do in that case?
[19:33] <WishingMaster> dpkg -l shows the packages but when i try to remove some of them the system says that they are not installed,could you tell me what to do in that case?
[19:34] <jussi01> WishingMaster: give me an example?
[19:34] <leo_rockway> WishingMaster: dpkg -l flags installed packages with ii
[19:34] <WishingMaster> like i want to remove kate
[19:34] <leo_rockway> WishingMaster: the ones that say rc were previously uninstalled but non purged
[19:35] <WishingMaster> hmmmm
[19:35] <WishingMaster> let me check that leo`
[19:35] <syockit> dtchen: somehow got it solved, but forgot how
[19:36] <KDesk> I can configure my display to turn off automatcly, it turns "off" but the backlight is still on, what can I do? What component is the probelm? Xserver, driver, KDE?
[19:36] <dtchen> syockit: ok
[19:37] <WishingMaster> how do i purge them leo_rockway
[19:37] <ohhai> When trying to compile using cmake, compiler cannot find my CURL, even though the latest version is installed. Using 8.10, 32bit. Here's a more detailed log of the occurrence: http://www.pastebin.com/m781a34a0. Please, help. =)
[19:37] <syockit> KDesk: more of driver. things to do with acpm/notebook specifics
[19:37] <WishingMaster> kate has rc in front of it
[19:37] <DaSkreech> Nice
[19:38] <DaSkreech> Stuff is already underway for KDE 4.3
[19:38] <WishingMaster> `leo`
[19:38] <syockit> KDesk: sorry, was supposed to be apm
[19:39] <KDesk> syockit: It is a desktop... I think it affects many intel users.
[19:39] <leo_rockway> WishingMaster: dpkg --purge I believe
[19:39] <KDesk> ah, do you think that I should put apm=off i grub?
[19:39] <WishingMaster> i have tried apt-get purge
[19:39] <DaSkreech> WishingMaster: technically it's already gone
[19:39] <leo_rockway> WishingMaster: apt-get remove --purge works only for installed packages
[19:39] <DaSkreech> WishingMaster: It's apt-get remove kate --purge
[19:40] <syockit> KDesk: then it won't work?
[19:40] <leo_rockway> if the package got uninstalled without being purged then you can dpkg --purge
[19:40] <WishingMaster> hmmmm das`
[19:40] <KDesk> syockit: I dont know :(
[19:40] <KDesk> Just asking :)
[19:40] <syockit> KDesk: what's the make of your pc?
[19:40] <tarmath> hi lads... i cant get any sound working in flash... used to work before... but not on kubuntu 8.10.... ive been looking around trying stuff but to no avail...
[19:41] <KDesk> this is generic, but in a Dell with intel I had the same problem.
[19:41] <dtchen> tarmath: you're not pulseaudio, are you?
[19:42] <tarmath> dtchen: not 'really' but ive tried after starting it manually...
[19:42] <KDesk> Why is pulseaudio installed by default in so may distros? If it makes more problems that anything...
[19:42] <dtchen> tarmath: using pulseaudio introduces quite a few headaches
[19:42] <dcx> why does can't I hear audio from my browser?
[19:42] <leo_rockway> KDesk: xset dpms force off
[19:42] <syockit> KDesk: maybe the same reason why kde4.0 was introduced in hardy :p
[19:42] <dtchen> KDesk: because it's a chicken-and-egg problem
[19:42] <pablo> miłość
[19:43] <BentFrank> Installing NX 3.3 on Kubuntu 8.10.  Just one Linux on the LAN.  Do I have to run "nxserver --nodeadd 127.0.0.1"?
[19:43] <DaSkreech> syockit: That's not nearly the same
[19:43] <leo_rockway> KDesk: see if that turns your backlight off
[19:43] <dtchen> KDesk: the only way bugs get fixed is to field it in popular distro releases
[19:43] <syockit> leo_rockway: okay I'll try
[19:43] <tarmath> dtchen: it's not started by default... like right now... and I dont have any sound in flash
[19:43] <tarmath> I thought Id try my luck with it since it's supposed to be supported starting flash 10...
[19:43] <leo_rockway> if it does then maybe you can make a script out of it or smth
[19:44] <dtchen> tarmath: you don't need pulseaudio to get audible sound with Flash
[19:44] <dcx> But I can hear everthing else except for what's pn my internet browser
[19:44] <KDesk> leo_rockway: It goes off, but the backlight is still on.
[19:44] <dtchen> tarmath: do you actually use anything specific to pulseaudio?
[19:44] <tarmath> dtchen: I dont use pulseaudio, I just tried with it...
[19:44] <leo_rockway> KDesk: that command should've turned your backlight off. There's your problem.
[19:45] <leo_rockway> KDesk: acpi uses xset dpms to turn off the backlight
[19:45] <dtchen> tarmath: ok, first, make sure you remove the pulseaudio packages
[19:45] <KDesk> leo_rockway: Yes? Oh, now I now the problem, that is good :) What can I do? Report a bug?
[19:45] <dtchen> tarmath: at the very least, remove the pulseaudio package itself
[19:45] <syockit> KDesk: somethings wrong with dpms then
[19:45] <tarmath> dtchen: ok doing that now...
[19:45] <syockit> KDesk: can you control brightness?
[19:45] <leo_rockway> KDesk: yeah, I'd say reporting a bug is a good idea. That's not the expected behaviour at all.
[19:46] <KDesk> syockit: only from the monitor, not from the OS
[19:46] <KDesk> leo_rockway: where should I report that, launchpad?
[19:47] <carlosmorais> i need a small help
[19:47] <leo_rockway> KDesk: Launchpad, yes
[19:47] <dtchen> tarmath: after you've removed it, restart your web browser.
[19:47] <dtchen> tarmath: i presume you're using konqueror?
[19:47] <leo_rockway> KDesk: provide as much information as you can when filing the bug report
[19:47] <tarmath> dtchen: firefox in fact...
[19:47] <dtchen> tarmath: ok, then you'll need to restart all firefox instances
[19:47] <syockit> gtg
[19:48] <dtchen> tarmath: also, make sure you only have *one* Flash plugin instance installed
[19:48] <dtchen> tarmath: check with about:plugins
[19:48] <tarmath> dtchen: ok
[19:48] <tarmath> dtchen: restarting firefox..
[19:48] <KDesk> leo_rockway: do you know witch package is te affected? acpi, xset? dpms?
[19:48] <dcx> dtchen: I need to do the same as tarmath. How do I remove pulseaudio packages?
[19:49] <di> подскажите у менятормозит видео что делать?
[19:49] <KDesk> leo_rockway: The monitor goes off after 2s but goes afer 1s more on again (only the backlight)
[19:49] <tarmath> dcx: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio paman padevchooser paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter
[19:49] <KDesk> ru @ di
[19:49] <tarmath> dtchen: looks good, only one flashplayer
[19:49] <dcx> Tarmath: Thank you.
[19:49] <KDesk> !ru @ di
[19:49] <KDesk> hmm
[19:50] <dtchen> tarmath: now, do you have an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ?
[19:50] <KDesk> !RU @ di
[19:50] <dtchen> tarmath: if so, please pastebin its/their contents
[19:50] <Mamarok> !ru | di
[19:50] <tarmath> dtchen: right. gotta delete that one too?
[19:50] <KDesk> !RU@di
[19:50] <KDesk> !RU
[19:50] <Mamarok> KDesk: see above!
[19:50] <KDesk> hehe
[19:50] <dtchen> tarmath: don't delete it yet; pastebin so i can inspect it
[19:51] <di> sps
[19:51] <tarmath> dtchen: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio i followed these instructions so you can see exactly whats in the file
[19:51] <leo_rockway> KDesk: this is old, but it may give you a hint: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/xset-dpms-force-off-doesnt-turn-off-screen-531977/
[19:51] <tarmath> dtchen: i had to create the file there wasn't anything in it before
[19:51] <leo_rockway> KDesk: the problem has nothing to do with acpi in this case, because acpi just calls the xset dpms command
[19:52] <KDesk> leo_rockway: ah, ok, thanks for the link, I will look that :)
[19:52] <dtchen> tarmath: mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.bak
[19:53] <dtchen> tarmath: then restart firefox (again)
[19:53] <tarmath> dtchen: done
[19:54] <ohhai> Sound input on ASUS W3J laptop somehow doesn't work, even though the output does. Other people on forums claim that input works in their cases. What are the common diagnostics steps here?
[19:54] <KDesk> leo_rockway: with  "sudo vbetool dpms off"  it workes but only ones :|
[19:55] <dtchen> ohhai: download and run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[19:55] <leo_rockway> KDesk: you can include that in your bug report then
[19:55] <dtchen> ohhai: then tell me the url it generates
[19:55] <dtchen> tarmath: is sound audible on a web page w/ Flash?
[19:56] <tarmath> dtchen: nope... in fact I am back at the starting point before I tried to solve it with pulseaudio...
[19:56] <KDesk> leo_rockway: yes. Do you thing the package can be   libxcb-dpms0  or I shouldn't fill that?
[19:57] <dtchen> tarmath: ok. please open a Konsole and tell me if sound is audible with `speaker-test -c2'
[19:57] <dtchen> tarmath: you can stop speaker-test by interrupting it (ctrl+c)
[19:57] <leo_rockway> KDesk: I'm not sure, but if you select the wrong package someone else can edit it later on
[19:57] <ohhai> dtchen: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=67cc56fa77815a09b1c515abc2160ffab4ff6469
[19:58] <tarmath> dtchen: nope nothing...
[19:58] <KDesk> leo_rockway:  ah, ok, thanks.
[19:58] <dtchen> tarmath: ok, let's check volumes.  please download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, save it to your Desktop, and run it in a Konsole with `bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh', then tell me the url it generates
[19:59] <dtchen> ohhai: sec
[20:00] <di> kubuntu 8.10   gma 950 drivers
[20:01] <tarmath> dtchen: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a0a5250f3ce2080fee0ee7892ea73a064adb3435
[20:01] <dtchen> ohhai: looks like your mic boost and capture mixer controls aren't raised. in a Konsole, try: amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Mic Boost',0 100% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Capture',0 cap && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Capture',0 100%
[20:02] <dtchen> ohhai: (yes, you can also accomplish the above via KMix, but it takes more fiddling. i prefer the cli.)
[20:03] <ohhai> dtchen: Me too. =)
[20:03] <kaminix> Why are people working on getting uim 1.5.3 into jaunty when 1.5.5 is the latest stable release?  It was even published after 1.5.4 was released. :s
[20:04] <KDesk> Another question... I have an ipod and music in ogg, so I transforme that to aac with soundkonverter, but when I want to tranfer them with amarok, it says "tracks not playable in media device" How can I transfer those aac audio files?
[20:04] <ohhai> dtchen: Any more reasonable way to test input than Audacity?
[20:04] <dtchen> kaminix: lack of manpower/other resources, more than likely
[20:04] <dtchen> kaminix: feel free to chip in! =)
[20:04] <dtchen> ohhai: try arecord
[20:04] <dtchen> tarmath: sec
[20:05] <tarmath> dtchen: hmm sound used to work in other apps through phonon but now its all gone...
[20:05] <dtchen> tarmath: ah, your 'Master' and 'PCM' mixer controls are too low. in fact, the latter is set at zero.
[20:06] <dcx> Tarmath, dtchen: Thank you.
[20:06] <dcx> ciao
[20:06] <dtchen> tarmath: in a konsole, try: amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Master',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'PCM',0 80%
[20:06] <WishingMaster> what is the command to install latest kde and what is the command to upgrade currently installed kernel?
[20:06] <leo_rockway> KDesk: I cannot answer your question, but I could suggest that you look at rockbox
[20:06] <dcx> my sound works now on my internet browser.
[20:07] <ohhai> dtchen: Same result. =(
[20:07] <kaminix> dtchen: I would, except I don't really know how to package stuff. =/
[20:07] <KDesk> leo_rockway: Rockbox doesn't support my ipod nano 4th G :( But thanks anyway
[20:07] <dtchen> tarmath: you might also want: amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Surround',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Center',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'LFE',0 80% && amixer -Dhw:0 set 'Side',0 80%
[20:07] <WishingMaster> what is the command to install latest kde and what is the command to upgrade currently installed kernel?
[20:08] <dtchen> kaminix: we can help you with that; see #ubuntu-motu
[20:08] <tarmath> dtchen: sound back in youtube... !
[20:08] <kaminix> I'll look into it when things calm down at university. :) Thanks. :)
[20:09] <WishingMaster> what is the command to install latest kde and what is the command to upgrade currently installed kernel?
[20:09] <tarmath> dtchen: but amarok and dragonplayer keep crashing when they're trying to play music...
[20:09] <leo_rockway> !repeat | WishingMaster
[20:10] <WishingMaster> leo_rockway, do u want me repeat my ques?
[20:10] <ohhai> dtchen: Save for Volume, what other approaches might one take?
[20:10] <leo_rockway> WishingMaster: no, exactly the opposite
[20:10] <WishingMaster> ok
[20:10] <dtchen> ohhai: let me check the source code; give me a few minutes
[20:10] <ohhai> dtchen: (I'm confident in mic's integrity, tested it under Windows)
[20:11] <leo_rockway> WishingMaster: just read what ubottu told you
[20:11] <WishingMaster> ok
[20:11] <dtchen> tarmath: try restarting KDE (just log out and back in)
[20:12] <tarmath> dtchen: ook
[20:15] <BentFrank> Installing NX 3.3 on Kubuntu 8.10 on my single Linux box.  I did nxserver --start.  Do I need to do a --nodeadd?  eg --nodeadd 127.0.0.1?
[20:17] <pietro_> Hi I've installed for the first time kubuntu
[20:17] <JVS13> nice
[20:18] <pietro_> Audio doesn't work and wireless too
[20:18] <pietro_> I've a pavillion dv7-1024-el
[20:25] <tarmath> dtchen: thanks lad everything works now!!
[20:26] <dtchen> tarmath: yw
[20:27] <Lynoure> Is there a way to get Vista show on grub menu after it did not do that since the initial install of Kubuntu?
[20:30] <kvh> When I use my kvm back to kubuntu system, the mouse button order prefs goes back to right-hand; any idea how to fix?
[20:32] <ohhai> ditchen: =(
[20:32] <ohhai> *dtchen:
[20:32] <ohhai> Sorry, took it for German.
[20:34] <stefano> hello
[20:34] <stefano> !list
[20:34] <pietro_> noone can help me to find driver for my audio card?
[20:34] <dtchen> ohhai: sec, been troubleshooting something in the audio stack
[20:34] <dtchen> ohhai: (sorry, just being bombarded across multiple irc channels)
[20:34] <dtchen> pietro_: please run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[20:34] <ohhai> =) No problem.
[20:35] <dtchen> pietro_: (and please be patient, quite busy ATM)
[20:35] <ohhai> :) Sorry for bombarding. =)
[20:35] <pietro_> dtchen sorry
[20:36] <s0101> plz help me my desktop is bigger than my screen it has worked well before, but after i made some updates it says my screen is unknown i have a Philips lcd screen
[20:37] <stefano> !list
[20:38] <s0101> one guy told me how to update the nividia driver and i did, and after that i upgraded to ubuntu 8,10 from 8,04 and i still have the same shit with the screen
[20:39] <s0101> i am green with ubuntu plz help
[20:39] <jussi01> !ohmy | s0101
[20:39] <s0101> sorry
[20:40] <Walzmyn> s0101, i'm not using 8.10 - but look in system settings for a way to change your resolution
[20:40] <di> rus &&&
[20:40] <Walzmyn> s0101, Kmenu->>system->>system settings
[20:41] <di> ауууу ru?? ubuntu
[20:41] <s0101> i did but ihave less options than before 640*480 is the highest i have as a option
[20:42] <stdin> !ru | di
[20:42] <s0101> it says screen unknown
[20:44] <s0101> it seams to be a bug with 8.10
[20:47] <batatasazuis> Hello everyone
[20:51] <batatasazuis> hey how do i mount my 2 ntsf drives? they aren't in media folder..
[20:53] <[T]BludShoT> I'm trying to install ATI drivers for my ATI 9700pro AIW card on 8.10, but when i go in Hardware Drivers it doesn't list any drivers
[20:54] <dtchen> ohhai: ah, i think this is one of the SSIDs that regressed from gutsy
[20:54] <dtchen> ohhai: instead of model=laptop-eapd, try model=3stack
[20:54] <ohhai> ohhai; In alsa-base?
[20:54] <dtchen> ohhai: (you'll need to reboot)
[20:54] <dtchen> ohhai: yes
[20:55] <ohhai> dtchen: Thanks, trying that.
[21:03] <s0101> my desktop is bigger thanmy screen plz help
[21:03] <s0101> i have been strugeling with this all day long
[21:03] <Stalker72> Have you tried auto-adjust on your monitor?
[21:04] <s0101> yes but that dosent help
[21:04] <s0101> and i checked in the system menu for the resolution it says that my screen is unknown
[21:05] <Stalker72> Did you install Hardware Drivers?
[21:05] <s0101> it started even before i uppgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 earlier today
[21:05] <s0101> not sure
[21:05] <s0101> were cani get those i have a philips lcd monitor
[21:05] <Stalker72> Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[21:05] <Stalker72> Click Activate
[21:06] <Stalker72> Then restart your PC
[21:06] <s0101>  it is activated
[21:06] <s0101> already
[21:06] <Stalker72> Hmm..
[21:06] <s0101> and i just got the new version with 8,10
[21:06] <Stalker72> Have you installed ALL updates?
[21:07] <s0101> yes i belive so is there any particular you are sugesting?
[21:07] <Stalker72> Not really. I just wanted to make sure.
[21:08] <s0101> ok
[21:08] <s0101> i can tell you how it started
[21:08] <ohhai> dtchen: Thanks, input started working. Output stopped though.
[21:08] <Stalker72> I'm no expert, sorry. I'm new to the Linux/Kubuntu world myself.
[21:09] <s0101> i had this screen disconected from the computer for 2 months and i connected it today and it worked fine until i did a normal system update i had to cancel in the middle due to slow internet and i restarted after that it said i can only use the comp with low graph
[21:10] <Stalker72> KDE 4.2 is out in 2 days.
[21:10] <Stalker72> There are thousands of bugfixes. Maybe you'll have some luck. ;)
[21:11] <s0101> i did and a guy from here told me how to upgrade nividia driver and i did a little bit better but not perfekt and after that i upgraded to 8.10 and it looked like before i upgraded nividia
[21:11] <s0101> :(
[21:12] <shadeslayer> Stalker72: really?? KDE 4.2 in 2days
[21:12] <shadeslayer> ive been out of touch
[21:13] <Stalker72> shadeslayer: www.kde.org .. It's going to be exciting
[21:14] <s0101> my highest res is 640*480
[21:15] <Stalker72> I had that problem before, but it got fixed when I installed the Nvidia driver.
[21:15] <Stalker72> It was long ago.
[21:15] <shadeslayer> ooh
[21:15] <shadeslayer> 2 more das
[21:15] <shadeslayer> *days
[21:15] <shadeslayer> cant wait
[21:15] <Stalker72> :)
[21:15] <Stalker72> me neither
[21:16] <Stalker72> my new PC runs Kubuntu flawlessly! :D
[21:17] <shadeslayer> same here
[21:17] <ohhai> dtchen: http://pastebin.com/m28c60fe9 that's the new alsa-info. =(
[21:17] <Stalker72> load average is about 0.75 :P
[21:17] <shadeslayer> had alot of problems with KDE4.1 though
[21:17] <Stalker72> KDE 4.2 will be good and stable!
[21:17] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:17] <shadeslayer> hopefully
[21:17] <Stalker72> Is Load Average the CPU load average?
[21:18] <shadeslayer> never checked lol
[21:18] <Stalker72> what CPU do you have?
[21:18] <shadeslayer> T8100
[21:18] <Stalker72> never heard of it
[21:18] <shadeslayer> im in Vista right now
[21:18] <Stalker72> Intel, AMD?
[21:18] <shadeslayer> :O
[21:18] <shadeslayer> Intel
[21:18] <Stalker72> how old is it?
[21:18] <shadeslayer> last year
[21:19] <Stalker72> is there another name for it?
[21:19] <shadeslayer> i have the Dell XPS M1530
[21:19] <shadeslayer> nope
[21:19] <shadeslayer> its called the T8100
[21:19] <Stalker72> ok
[21:19] <blackbird> hi i need your help : http://rafb.net/p/m4lOcV65.html
[21:19] <Stalker72> have you heard of Nehalem (i7)?
[21:19] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:19] <shadeslayer> have you heard pricey
[21:19] <Stalker72> it crunches through Kubuntu, hehe
[21:19] <Stalker72> I got the cheapest one
[21:19] <Stalker72> 920
[21:20] <shadeslayer> mmmmm
[21:20] <shadeslayer> custom build??
[21:20] <Stalker72> yes
[21:20] <Stalker72> my 2nd one
[21:20] <shadeslayer> cool
[21:20] <Stalker72> do you run Kubuntu too?
[21:20] <shadeslayer> then you must have GDDR3
[21:20] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:20] <Stalker72> yup
[21:20] <blackbird> why wvdialconf can't detect the smartlink modem even after installation ?
[21:20] <Stalker72> blackbird: forums.ubuntu.com
[21:21] <Stalker72> blackbird: There you can get help from experts
[21:21] <shadeslayer> cool
[21:21] <shadeslayer> BTW i have to sleep
[21:21] <[T]BludShoT> dell xps m1530 has an intel core 2 duo
[21:21] <shadeslayer> bye
[21:21] <Stalker72> cya
[21:21] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:21] <shadeslayer> its a T8100
[21:21] <shadeslayer> C2D
[21:21] <[T]BludShoT> i'd say that's another name for it heh
[21:21] <Stalker72> ooh :P
[21:21] <shadeslayer> oh
[21:21] <Stalker72> I've heard of it then ofc
[21:22] <shadeslayer> lol
[21:22] <Stalker72> I'm a geek! :P
[21:22] <s0101> Anybody who knows how to correct the desktop size in 8.10 or is there a special channel for 8.10
[21:22] <shadeslayer> youve heard of C2D but not of the T series
[21:22] <Stalker72> yeah
[21:22] <shadeslayer> this is the only channel
[21:22] <Stalker72> I would try the forums
[21:22] <Stalker72> forums.ubuntu.com
[21:22] <shadeslayer> uh *.kubuntu.com
[21:23] <shadeslayer> bye
[21:23] <s0101> i have ubuntu 8.10
[21:23] <Stalker72> bye
[21:23] <shadeslayer> or ill get caught up again
[21:23] <shadeslayer> then #Ubuntu
[21:23] <s0101> cheers
[21:23] <Stalker72> many more ppl there :P
[21:23] <shadeslayer> bye
[21:23] <Stalker72> bye
[21:23] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:23] <shadeslayer> bye
[21:24] <Stalker72> where do I find the effects settings?
[21:26] <harjot> help please
[21:26] <shadeslayer> Stalker72: in Kubuntu??
[21:26] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:26] <shadeslayer> harjot: dont ask to aks
[21:26] <shadeslayer> *ask
[21:26] <Stalker72> shadeslayer: yes
[21:26] <shadeslayer> just ask
[21:27] <harjot> ok
[21:27] <shadeslayer> K>system settings>Desktop
[21:27] <harjot> how do i emulate a linux program for windoze
[21:27] <Stalker72> thx
[21:27] <Stalker72> Wine
[21:27] <shadeslayer> opposite of wine
[21:27] <Stalker72> sudo apt-get install wine
[21:27] <Stalker72> www.winehq.org
[21:27] <shadeslayer> oh
[21:27] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:27] <shadeslayer> add them to the repos
[21:28] <shadeslayer> !wine
[21:28] <shadeslayer> there you go
[21:28] <harjot> no i have kubuntu but i want a program on it to work for windows
[21:28] <Stalker72> I don't think that's possible
[21:28] <shadeslayer> yeah,i thought you meant that
[21:28] <Stalker72> unlike there's a Windows port for it
[21:28] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:28] <harjot> i have heard of cygwin
[21:29] <shadeslayer> !cygwin
[21:29] <shadeslayer> nothing
[21:29] <harjot> but dont no how to use it
[21:29] <SlimeyPete> cygwin includes quite a lot of unix ports
[21:29] <SlimeyPete> harjot: just download it and run it under Windows
[21:29] <SlimeyPete> it includes a helpful installer
[21:29] <SlimeyPete> but it doesn't run all linux apps - just the ones which have been ported by the cygwin project
[21:29] <harjot> but if i want it to be a program that you just click and it loads my program under cygwin
[21:30] <SlimeyPete> cygwin doesn't work like that.
[21:30] <stdin> some KDE apps work in windows
[21:30] <SlimeyPete> the program must be re-compiled from source, and possibly altered to use the cygwin libraries.
[21:30] <stdin> natively
[21:30] <harjot> that the problem
[21:30] <kvh> When I use my kvm back to kubuntu system, the mouse button order prefs goes back to right-hand (although prefs still show left-hand); any idea how to fix?
[21:30] <SlimeyPete> which program is it?
[21:30] <harjot> vym
[21:31] <harjot> ?
[21:31] <SlimeyPete> harjot: the mind-mapper?
[21:31] <harjot> yes
[21:31] <Stalker72> KWin pwns Compiz Fusion!! :D
[21:31] <harjot> !vym
[21:32] <harjot> mind mapper
[21:32] <Stalker72> how do I auto-align icons at desktop?
[21:32] <Rhiado> hey, I've got some questions about changing resolution on my computer, can I get some advice?
[21:32] <Stalker72> and auto-arrange
[21:32] <Stalker72> Rhiado: sure
[21:32] <Rhiado> I've read the man page, and the wiki, and I'm... a bit lost.
[21:33] <SlimeyPete> harjot: I don't think there's a Windows or Cygwin port for that
[21:33] <SlimeyPete> you'd have to make your own
[21:33] <blackbird> plz any help
[21:33] <harjot> hHOW/?????????
[21:33] <Rhiado> I've tried the instructions there, but... nothing happens other than a set of instructions for using the config tool, I'm not getting any response.
[21:34] <SlimeyPete> harjot: do you know how to program in C++ ?
[21:34] <stdin> it's a qt4 app, it should work on windows
[21:34] <Stalker72> sry guys, g2g.. cya
[21:34] <harjot> slimypete: no
[21:34] <SlimeyPete> or at least to compile C++ on Windows
[21:34] <SlimeyPete> then you can't do it yourself, sorry
[21:34] <harjot> nope
[21:35] <harjot> do u know hhow to?
[21:35] <SlimeyPete> No. I can program, but not in C++ and I've never tried cross-compiling.
[21:35] <SlimeyPete> or porting
[21:35] <harjot> i can do basic
[21:36] <SlimeyPete> you may need to look for an alternative piece of software, for instance FreeMind
[21:36] <harjot> i can do the same as u
[21:36] <batatasazuis> Hello everyone, why can't i see my 2 other hard drives? they're in ntfs
[21:36] <harjot> damn
[21:36] <barbar__conan> how nice
[21:36] <barbar__conan> :)
[21:36] <harjot> ok thanks bye
[21:36] <SlimeyPete> sorry I couldn't be more helpful, harjot
[21:38] <Rhiado> batatasazuis:  did you set up your install to be able to recognize ntfs?
[21:38] <stdin> harjot: you can download QtCreator (ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtcreator/qtcreator-0.9.1-beta-windows-setup.exe) and then download the source for vym (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/vym/vym-1.12.2.tar.bz2?modtime=1225292340&big_mirror=0) and then open it in creator and click the compile button
[21:39] <stdin> you man need something like WinRAR to open the .tar.bz2 archive
[21:42] <WishingMaster> !
[21:42] <\Kira> how can I install dekorator?
[21:45] <WishingMaster> \Kira, apt-get install dekorator
[21:45] <blackbird> u must have the pachage \Kira
[21:45] <blackbird> package*
[21:46] <\Kira> WishingMaster: cant find package
[21:46] <\Kira> blackbird: why?
[21:46] <WishingMaster> did u use dpkg -l
[21:46] <\Kira> WishingMaster: no, whats that do?
[21:47] <\Kira> kira@Uplink:~$ dpkg -l dekorator
[21:47] <\Kira> No packages found matching dekorator.
[21:47] <WishingMaster> hmmmm
[21:47] <blackbird> pick it from the net \Kira
[21:48] <WishingMaster> download it
[21:48] <\Kira> ugh... Okay,
[21:48] <\Kira> thanks anyways
[21:49] <stdin> !info kwin-style-dekorator
[21:49] <firatk> merhabalar türk varmı?
[21:49] <stdin> \Kira: that ^ ?
[21:49] <stdin> !tr
[21:49] <WishingMaster> thanks stdin
[21:50] <jammen33> !de
[21:50] <\Kira> Oh, I think thats it :)
[21:50] <WishingMaster> yup
[21:51] <\Kira> yes, its downloading. Thanks :D
[21:51] <WishingMaster> peace
[21:53] <stdin> the KDE4 version is in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA repository
[21:53] <acid_burn> [2009-01-25 22:50] <jammen33> !de
[21:53] <acid_burn> [2009-01-25 22:50] <ubottu> In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[21:53] <acid_burn> [2009-01-25 22:50] <\Kira> Oh, I think thats it :)
[21:53] <acid_burn> [2009-01-25 22:50] <WishingMaster> yup
[21:53] <acid_burn> [2009-01-25 22:51] <\Kira> yes, its downloading. Thanks :D
[21:53] <\Kira> acid_burn: ?
[21:53] <WishingMaster> what r u trying to do acid_burn
[21:54] <acid_burn> sorry Imistook
[21:54] <jammen33> flood?
[21:58] <kinux> hi
[21:59] <jillsmitt> hi, I use Koffice, want to know what kind percent of >>*.doc saving formating and others
[22:00] <jillsmitt> if i save my document in *.doc
[22:05] <cocontmi> hello all!
[22:06] <DexterF> hi
[22:06] <acid_burn> bonsoir
[22:06] <cocontmi> need some help... i have ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu as sessions.. and i can switch to either by logging off... anyways my problem is w/kde
[22:07] <cocontmi> how do i change hdd settings to automount? it automounts in xfce and gnome fine
[22:07] <DexterF> installed 8.10 in vmware workstation 6.5.0 (linux host), vmware tools installer says "no driver for xorg 7.4.2". so tools work but it cant resize the display and such. what are my options?
[22:08] <DexterF> cocontmi: internal hdds or external?
[22:08] <cocontmi> internal partitions... and hard drives...
[22:09] <cocontmi> i have kde 4.. the testing one nightly
[22:09] <cocontmi> neon
[22:15] <Guest64145> Hello guys
[22:15] <Guest64145> I tried to install compiz in kubuntu 8.10
[22:15] <Guest64145> and i cannot see the minimiza button and maximize button and kill button in the frame of all windows
[22:16] <Guest64145> Can anyone help me?
[22:16] <Guest64145> ooo i forgot, this happens when i run compiz only
[22:16] <jammen33> do you see any of the window decoration
[22:17] <Guest64145> would that be those buttons i am talking about
[22:17] <Guest64145> i only see the File Edit ....
[22:17] <jammen33> ok so no
[22:19] <jammen33> in konsole enter   kde-window-decorator
[22:20] <Guest64145> haha command not found
[22:20] <Guest64145> i guess i erased it
[22:20] <Guest64145> i have kubuntu
[22:20] <pietro_> hi guys, I solved the problem with my wireless card installing system upgrades and installing wicd, but I have trouble with audio yet. If I play a song by amarock I ear the sound repeating more and more time the same fragment
[22:20] <pietro_> s
[22:21] <jammen33> sun sudo apt-get install compiz-kde
[22:21] <jammen33> run*
[22:23] <Guest64145> compiz-kde already newest version
[22:23] <khalidmian> looking to seek answer on why i cant see other ppl cam on yahoo via kopete
[22:24] <Guest64145> by the way thanks jammen 33
[22:24] <Guest64145> but after the last code i got that compiz-kde is at its newest version
[22:24] <Guest64145> if i type Kwin --replace
[22:25] <Guest64145> i get back kubuntu default wdw decorations
[22:25] <khalidmian> how do i check kde version
[22:26] <jammen33> Guest64145: what kubuntu are you using 8.10?
[22:26] <Guest64145> yes jammen
[22:27] <mefisto__> pietro_: what if you play the song in console with mplayer? same problem? mplayer /path/to/song/mysong.mp3
[22:27] <aline> hello
[22:27] <SlimeyPete> Guest64145: you have KDE 4.2
[22:28] <Guest64145> Yes
[22:28] <SlimeyPete> erm, sorry, 4.1
[22:28] <aline> hammmmmmmmmm
[22:28] <aline> boiei
[22:29] <aline> toma no cu
[22:30] <aline> alabi num sabi quem sabe no no  num foi o bim ladi nao
[22:30] <jammen33> Guest64145: do you have emerald installed?
[22:30] <Guest64145> Jammen 33 I FIx it!!!
[22:31] <Guest64145> thank you so much
[22:31] <khalidmian> looking to seek answer on why i cant see other ppl cam on yahoo via kopete pls help/advise
[22:31] <jon_high9000> hi there. i am a "newbie" where KDE is concerned and i accidentally closed the desktop plasma app unintentionally. is there anyway to bring it back?
[22:31] <jammen33> Guest64145: what did you do?
[22:31] <Guest64145> it was a problem where the file was located
[22:31] <Guest64145> haha /usr/bin/....           not
[22:31] <KDesk> Is possible to transfer AAC audio files from Amarok to an iPod?
[22:31] <Guest64145> kde-window-decorator ....
[22:32] <Guest64145> in other words compiz could not find the right file
[22:32] <Guest64145> cause I stupidly put the wrong file address
[22:32] <Guest64145> thanks so much!!
[22:32] <Guest64145> Jammen 33
[22:32] <jammen33> Guest64145: ur welcome
[22:32] <Guest64145> :)
[22:32] <Guest64145> later
[22:33] <jammen33> jon_high9000: try alt+F2
[22:33] <jammen33> jon_high9000: and run plasma
[22:34] <jon_high9000> jammen33: no luck
[22:35] <jon_high9000> i am running kubuntu 8.10
[22:35] <jammen33> so the plasma desktop is not running?
[22:36] <jon_high9000> jammen33: the dialogue screen came up when i tried your idea but that was it.
[22:37] <jon_high9000> jammen33: it was more than i could get it to do.
[22:38] <mefisto__> jon_high9000: did you type "plasma" in the dialog?
[22:38] <jon_high9000> jammen33: yes i did.
[22:38] <jammen33> jon_high9000: have you tried loging out and loging back in
[22:39] <jon_high9000> yes
[22:40] <jammen33> jon_high9000: try alt+f2 type in "konsole" and then in konsole try running "plasma"
[22:40] <jon_high9000> ok
[22:41] <sean> hey guys, anyone know a way I can able my scroll to scroll (lemme explain)
[22:41] <mefisto__> khalidmian: to get kopete to recieve webcam, I think you need to do port forwarding in your router for the port kopete is using to receive the webcam
[22:41] <jon_high9000> what command do i use in konsole?
[22:41] <jammen33> jon_high9000" plasma
[22:41] <Guest41106> right now the wheel works but I like it better when i middle click the wheel and drag up or down to scroll
[22:42] <khalidmian> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/fluidballs.desktop', which is also in package kscreensaver-xsavers-extra
[22:42] <khalidmian> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[22:42] <khalidmian> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:42] <khalidmian>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-xsavers_4%3a4.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_i386.deb
[22:42] <khalidmian> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:42] <khalidmian> any help
[22:42] <jon_high9000> jammen33: checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0xfdc030 67108865
[22:43] <jon_high9000> checkComposite: Plasma can use COMPOSITE for effects on 0xfd3270
[22:43] <jon_high9000> jammen33: that was wat i got back
[22:45] <Hiryu> I'm using 8.10 and the network manager doesn't work with my static lan ip at all... I can put in the settings and it refuses to connect. I finally had to put a static entry into /etc/network/interfaces (this is a fresh install)
[22:46] <Hiryu> is this normal?
[22:47] <jammen33> jon_high9000: ok in konsole try mv .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc.bak && plasma
[22:48] <pietro_> mefisto__ with mplayer it works,
[22:49] <mefisto__> pietro_: so the problem is with amarok
[22:49] <aline> kkskskkskksksk
[22:49] <cllaudyu> how can i see grapfic setings
[22:49] <jammen33> jon_high9000: any luck?
[22:49] <aline> mother
[22:49] <jon_high9000> none
[22:49] <cllaudyu> how can i disable rhe graphic
[22:50] <jammen33> jon_high9000: you tried "mv .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc.bak && plasma"
[22:50] <cllaudyu> i want to switch all the graphics to off how will i do that
[22:51] <cllaudyu> all
[22:51] <cllaudyu> how to do it?
[22:51] <jammen33> cllaudyu: system settings>Desktop> and uncheck use desktop effects
[22:52] <cllaudyu> if i press ctrl alt f12 what will hapen
[22:52] <jon_high9000> jammen33: copied and pasted you commands and this is what i got back. mv: cannot stat `.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc': No such file or directory
[22:53] <Hiryu> should that be .kde4?
[22:53] <cllaudyu> the system crashes often and i want to disable the graphics to zero is in desktop setings all the graphic setings?
[22:53] <d0kt0rN> Hello, I've been using Ubuntu from quite some while but after realizing that gnome sucks balls I switched to kubuntu, It's all been very smooth, but when I edit files with vim I don't seem to have toe same keybindings like in ubuntu. for instant, I can't add text. i used to just press the <INSERT> key on my computer, like it should be. is this something they changed in Kubunu? I would be glad to get some help. Please!
[22:54] <jammen33> jon_high9000: ok try "mv .kde .kdebak && plasma"
[22:54] <cllaudyu> !plasma
[22:54] <jammen33> cllaudyu: i believe so
[22:54] <cllaudyu> !graphic
[22:54] <cllaudyu> !cpu
[22:55] <d0kt0rN> !vim
[22:55] <jon_high9000> jammen33: <unknown program name>(15103)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0xabc030 23068673
[22:56] <Hiryu> neat, nano in (k)ubuntu supports the mouse wheel
[22:56] <Hiryu> no it seems the konsole does
[22:56] <jammen33> jon_high9000: are you using kde4.1 or 4.2?
[22:56] <jon_high9000> running kubuntu 8.10
[22:56] <jammen33> ok
[22:57] <mefisto__> the renaming of .kde should be done when not logged in to KDE
[22:57] <khalidmian> i always geet error whilst trying to install kscreensaver
[22:57] <jon_high9000> jammen33: sorry about this.
[22:58] <khalidmian> Running dpkg,
[22:58] <khalidmian>     [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --unpack, /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-xsavers-extra_4-0x1.51ff4bfb76b24p-1504.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_i386.deb ],
[22:58] <khalidmian>     Sup-process returned error code 1,
[22:58] <khalidmian>     Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-xsavers-extra_4%3a4.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_i386.deb : trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/fluidballs.desktop', which is also in package kscreensaver-xsavers.
[22:58] <khalidmian> any help?
[22:59] <jon_high9000> jammen33: it is 64 bit OS
[23:02] <jammen33> jon_high9000: have u tried running updates?
[23:02] <jammen33> jon_high9000: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[23:03] <khalidmian> seems as if im talking to walls
[23:03] <jon_high9000> jammen33: did those earlier today.
[23:03] <jammen33> jon_high9000: that might be the problem
[23:03] <jon_high9000> ok
[23:03] <jammen33> jon_high9000: they might have broken something
[23:04] <jon_high9000> you think a clean install might be wirth trying?
[23:04] <mefisto__> khalidmian: what are you installing? how are you installing it?
[23:06] <jammen33> jon_high9000: try "cd && mv .kde/share/config/plasmarc .kde/share/config/plasmarc.bak && plasma"
[23:08] <jon_high9000> jammen33: mv: cannot stat `.kde/share/config/plasmarc': No such file or directory
[23:08] <jammen33> jon_high9000: idk im out of ideas
[23:09] <psyco> how do I make it so that when when i middle click the wheel and drag up or down to scroll (firefox)
[23:09] <jon_high9000> jammen33: sorry about this. thanks for trying anyhow.
[23:09] <jammen33> jon_high9000: np
[23:10] <jammen33> psyco: in firefox in the addressbar type"about:config"
[23:10] <wesley_> My harddrive makes sounds like --- --- --- --- ------ -----------
[23:10] <mefisto__> psyco: turn on "autoscrolling" in firefox prefs
[23:10] <jammen33> wesley_: is that clicking?
[23:10] <Hiryu> hmm... system doesn't recognize nfs... wtf
[23:10] <mefisto__> psyco: advanced tab, general
[23:10] <jon_high9000> jammen33: I will put the disc in and run it.
[23:11] <jammen33> jon_high9000: ok good lucl
[23:11] <jammen33> luck*
[23:11] <jon_high9000> jammen33: later
[23:11] <jammen33> jon_high9000: later
[23:11] <psyco> mefisto__: AWESOME!
[23:11] <wesley_> jammen33 yes clicking or thicking
[23:12] <psyco> mefisto__: ugh the scroll icon is ugly, where do I change it?
[23:12] <jammen33> wesley_: you might want to backup your data
[23:12] <wesley_> Likes it got something to say ( doesnt boot up anymore the hd )
[23:12] <mefisto__> psyco: don't know if you can
[23:12] <psyco> lol alright, maybe there is a different cursor theme
[23:12] <wesley_> Most is backed up only the newer downloads not :(
[23:13] <jammen33> wesley: if it doesnt boot i think your harddrive is dead
[23:13] <Tinason> kde 4.2 is released tomorrow. how long b4 it hits repositories?
[23:13] <caustin> Anyone running on the kubuntu-experimental stuff?
[23:13] <Hiryu> I thought 4.2 was already out... shows what I know
[23:14] <caustin> Hiryu: It was 4.2rc1
[23:14] <Hiryu> ah
[23:15] <wesley_> jammen33 it started like this, kde did hang, harddrive was making strange sounds, few reboots, but didnt went any better
[23:15] <wesley_> So now it does thick there loads nonthing, hd 1 month old
[23:16] <surgy> i just instyalled a printer and kubuntu found the driver, its and epson stylus 4450 with a flatbed scanenr made on. what software can i use to scan images?
[23:16] <surgy> ?
[23:17] <wesley_> i wonder why my usb boot gives boot errors
[23:19] <surgy> anyone?
[23:19] <leo_rockway> surgy: xsane
[23:19] <leo_rockway> surgy: kooka (it's KDE3)
[23:20] <surgy> i  have kooka
[23:20] <surgy> and when i try to "select scan device" it does absolutely nothing
[23:20] <surgy> and xsane doesnt pick anything up at all...
[23:21] <leo_rockway> then drivers for the scanner are not installed
[23:22] <Tinason> kde 4.2 is released tomorrow. how long b4 it hits repositories?
[23:22] <surgy> umm then how do i set up the drivers for the scanner? and why would there be different drivers for ther printer and scanner?
[23:23] <aeonoris> I can't find a (windows) driver for my wireless card, because I can't figure out what card it IS (it doesn't have any company brands on it).  So now, since Kubuntu's internet works, I'm trying to find out a way to tell what the card is with Kubuntu.  Is there one?
[23:24] <surgy> ok well this is incredibly gay, why would there be a printer driver and no scanner driver for a scanner/printer....
[23:25] <aeonoris> Perhaps it's a generic printer driver that doesn't have scanner support...?
[23:25] <surgy> no
[23:25] <surgy> kubuntu reported that it found the driver for the "Epson Stylus CX4450" which is exactly what my printer says on the top
[23:26] <aeonoris> Hum.
[23:28] <surgy> yeah fuck this
[23:28] <surgy> looks like micro soft wins again
[23:28] <surgy> thnx guys
[23:28] <oobe> surgy, try running xsane with sudo
[23:28] <leo_rockway> troll
[23:28] <leo_rockway> aeonoris: lspci
[23:28] <surgy> oobe: no luck
[23:29] <surgy> and i needed the scanner ten minutes ago
[23:29] <oobe> that guy was a doofus
[23:29] <aeonoris> leo_rockway, thanks a lot!  I was trying to figure out this card for over an hour...
[23:30] <leo_rockway> oobe: yeah, I won't waste my time helping people like him
[23:30] <leo_rockway> aeonoris: ls is a *nix command that lists
[23:31] <leo_rockway> aeonoris: so you have ls (which is like DOS' dir) and then you have lsusb, lspci, lshw, lsmod, etc
[23:32] <aeonoris> leo_rockway, nice trick, I'll remember it, thanks.
[23:33]  * kaddi is happy because she managed to solve the problem, for which she was going to ask for advice, on her own :D
[23:33] <SlimeyPete> always a good feeling :)
[23:34] <seb_> Hi guys,
[23:34] <kaddi> just out of curiosity though: is there a command that will empty the cache of aptitude?
[23:34] <leo_rockway> aeonoris: yeah, no prob...
[23:34] <leo_rockway> kaddi: \o/
[23:34] <SlimeyPete> kaddi: aptitude clean
[23:34] <oobe> aeonoris, try this  lspci -vv | grep  Network
[23:34] <seb_> does anybody know how to show back the Knetworkmanager applet in the right down corner?
[23:35] <oobe> if you have a pci wifi that is
[23:36] <kaddi> SlimeyPete: thanks :) Good to know :)
[23:36] <seb_> hello, thet's my first time here, so i don't know howitworks
[23:36] <oobe> seb_, are you using kde4 or kde3
[23:37] <seb_> kde3
[23:37] <seb_> i mae a bad control yesterday and since that point I have no applet: battery, network, kmix.all gone...
[23:37] <leo_rockway> seb_: alt + f2 and run knetworkmanager
[23:38] <seb_> that's done
[23:38] <leo_rockway> oh, it seems that your whole systray is gone
[23:39] <oobe> right click ur taskbar and click add applet to pannel
[23:39] <seb_> I have reinstalled (since one hour) Kthinbat, it works for the battery, but now I'm stuck searching what was my error
[23:39] <oobe> then search for systray
[23:39] <oobe> then add it
[23:39] <seb_> ok I'm doing
[23:40] <seb_> I can not find systray
[23:41] <oobe> sorry its system tray
[23:42] <oobe> just type system
[23:42] <seb_> ok
[23:43] <seb_> i just have (the menu is in french cause I am) system menu, system monitoring and print system
[23:46] <oobe> well that may not be the problem then
[23:48] <seb_> ok, thank you I will try to solve that after. Thank you again
[23:59] <Rhiado> anyone here good with tweaking the resolution on ubuntu?