[00:35] <maxb> Well, that was quite special... I got a "firefox has been updated, you need to restart" message from update-notifier.... immediately after rebooting!
[00:37] <billisnice> where are the instructions to install the codec for 9.04?
[00:39] <charlie-tca> Are there instructions already? It is still only alpha3
[00:40] <cwillu> billisnice, and what codec?  'The codec' isn't very specific
[00:40] <billisnice> for my dvd player
[00:40] <charlie-tca> billisnice: If there are none, the ones for 8.10 might work.
[00:40] <cwillu> the usual trick is to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:40] <billisnice> here are the 8.10 instructions at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[00:41]  * cwillu wonders if billisnice was planning on contributing any bug reports, or whether this was merely an exercise in trying new stuff :p
[00:41] <billisnice> did not know if 9.04 had some or not
[00:41] <cwillu> 9.04 hasn't been released yet, doubt much has been written for it
[00:41] <billisnice> i thought there might be a repository somewhere
[00:43] <maxb> Why not just try following the intrepid instructions but changing intrepid to jaunty everywhere?
[00:43] <maxb> It does not pay to be to reliant on explicit howtos
[00:43] <billisnice> i will
[00:43] <maxb> especially when running a development release
[00:45] <cwillu> !isitoutyet
[00:45] <cwillu> awww
[00:46] <maxb> heh
[00:46]  * charlie-tca nods
[00:46] <maxb> I remember how insane it gets in here on release day :-)
[00:48] <maxb> What always surprises me is that so many people are waiting to download isos
[00:48] <billisnice> i notice that it did not install the restricted drivers for my motherboard
[00:49] <billisnice> are they not connected yet?
[00:49] <maxb> There are restricted drivers for motherboards?
[00:49] <billisnice> with ndvia
[00:49] <maxb> Erm, you mean your graphics card?
[00:50] <billisnice> ok
[00:50] <billisnice> on my motherboard
[00:50] <gourgi> maxb hopefully users will use .torrent instead of .iso for jaunty
[00:51]  * maxb favours jigdo
[00:51]  * gourgi not aware of jigdo
[00:51] <maxb> But my point is.... why do people feel compelled to have CDs on the day of release? I'd think that you do a fresh install when you _need_ to do a fresh install
[00:52] <maxb> jigdo is amazingly cool. It reuses package files you've already downloaded to avoid redownloading the same data as part of the cd image
[00:55] <Kano> hi, did anybody try fgrlx with ignoreABI?
[01:01] <maxb> I haven't tried, I assumed people would be shouting about it if it worked
[01:01] <maxb> FWIW, I'm getting acceptable results with radeonhd
[01:02] <maxb> Using options AccelMethod=EXA, DRI=true.
[01:02] <maxb> When Ubuntu defaulted to radeon, the performance was abysmal
[01:02] <maxb> though I've not tested whether it's radeon vs. radeonhd, or the fine tuning X options that truly help
[01:04] <Kano> well my ati card is broken therefore i could not test it
[01:26] <Chr1831> is there anyway to browse/buy/play itunes store stuff in linux?
[02:47] <thenetmonkey9250> hello, can someone help me get xen running on jaunty ?
[02:48] <thenetmonkey9250> in particular, which kernel am i supposed to load in grubs menu.lst
[02:49] <thenetmonkey9250> or better yet, can someone post a working menu.lst with a xen entry?
[02:51] <thenetmonkey9250> or point me to a website with a working menu.lst with a xen enty?
[03:16] <pwnguin> anyone have directions for migrating ext3 to ext4?
[03:17] <DanaG> watch out:
[03:17] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781
[03:17] <Tekno> its working here perfectly
[03:17] <pwnguin> DanaG: well, this is the test box
[03:18] <DanaG> Working fine for me too, oddly enough.
[03:18] <pwnguin> i dont run jaunty for kicks
[03:18] <Tekno> btw
[03:18] <DanaG> I do have data=journal set on my home partition.
[03:18] <Tekno> 2.6.28.2 is out
[03:18] <DanaG> And perhaps on root, too.
[03:18] <pwnguin> well, i do, but i dont run mission critical on jaunty for kicks
[03:19] <DanaG> I run my primary system (as well as two other older systems) on Jaunty; I just never upgrade all three to any particular round of updates at the same time.
[03:19] <DanaG> Plus, I have weekly backups of home and root, to ext3.
[03:20] <pwnguin> meh. i just leave the laptop to dual boot
[03:20] <pwnguin> no reason to not have something in good shape when you need it
[03:23] <spr0k3t> anyone here have a twinview setup?
[03:24] <pwnguin> i used to
[03:24] <pwnguin> pita
[03:24] <pwnguin> full screen apps wouldn't fullscreen to one monitor
[03:24] <spr0k3t> that works now btw.
[03:25] <pwnguin> i dont feel like watching half a movie ;)
[03:25] <spr0k3t> I remember that bug.
[03:25] <spr0k3t> I have a bug that I want to post, but I wanted to confirm it's not just with my system.
[03:26] <spr0k3t> however, I may have a way to test it... can you drag-n-drop your gnome-panel to any location on the desktop (bound to the edges of course)
[03:27] <pwnguin> i cant...
[03:27] <spr0k3t> k, posting the bug.
[03:27] <pwnguin> but it's not twinview
[03:29] <spr0k3t> I'm trying to get one panel on each monitor... both located at the top... but I can't "drag-n-drop" like I'm used to.
[03:30] <pwnguin> right click-> properties
[03:30] <spr0k3t> nod... it stays on monitor0
[03:31] <spr0k3t> there's no way to move it to monitor1
[03:32] <pwnguin> hrm, well this is going to be a challenge
[03:32] <pwnguin> i need to unmount the root partition to tune it to ext4
[03:33] <hggdh> boot from a CD...
[03:33] <pwnguin> i have a intrepid partition around for this sorta work, but the intrepid kernel doesn't have ext4 i dont think
[03:34] <pwnguin> i might be able to chroot
[03:34] <spr0k3t> nod... know any good guides for that migration?
[03:34] <pwnguin> im reading http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4
[03:34] <DanaG> Intrepid does have ext4.  It's just called ext4dev, and needs tune2fs -E test_fs
[03:36] <Volkodav> anybody experienced players freeze once paused ? xine and mplayer do freeze vlc is ok though
[03:36] <pwnguin> honestly, im surprised that ext4 is the first ext to support extends
[03:37] <pwnguin> it took me a long time to figure out ext wasn't "extent file system"
[03:37] <pwnguin> it should really help boot time
[03:44] <spr0k3t> well, if I can do better than 14secs, I'll be happy.
[03:45] <Volkodav> it boots really fast compared to ext3
[03:45] <spr0k3t> nods, I'm currently at 16secs with a fresh jaunty install on ext3.
[03:53] <biouser> join #html
[03:59] <DanaG> ext4 really is much faster at booting, for me.
[03:59] <jsubl2_> your / is ext4
[04:00] <DanaG> yup.
[04:00] <jsubl2_> yeah i have thought about giving it a spin
[04:20] <spr0k3t> anyone want to confirm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/321032
[04:23] <jsubl2_> DanaG: noticed any problems with ext4
[04:23] <DanaG> Well, there's a bug report:
[04:23] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781
[04:23] <DanaG> I haven't noticed that myself, but it's good to be wary.
[04:25] <jsubl2_> thanks for the heads ujp DanaG
[04:26] <jsubl2_> i will wait till the next kernel release
[04:28] <spr0k3t> so if you have no problems with power or crashing, you should be fine I spoze.
[04:30] <jsubl2_> well it is about time we moved up the filesystem scale
[04:30] <jsubl2_> ext3 technology is getting dated
[04:31] <Amaranth> spr0k3t: Right click on the panel, unlock it
[04:31] <Amaranth> hey where did that option go? :/
[04:31] <spr0k3t> it's not there.
[04:32] <spr0k3t> otherwise I would have done that already.
[04:32] <Amaranth> it was a couple days ago, now they're just stuck
[04:32] <spr0k3t> I even checked the gconf-editor and tried adding in /apps/pane/global/disable_movement back in.  no luck.
[04:33] <spr0k3t> so is that a "confirmed" I hear?
[06:59] <cwillu> oooo, I can login again!
[06:59]  * cwillu huggles the responsible party
[06:59] <cwillu> still no suspend though
[07:35] <FFForever> anyone up?
[07:36] <FFForever> how do i install the nvidia graphics?
[07:36] <FFForever> (drivers)
[07:42] <FFForever> anyone here (i am back)
[07:47] <FFForever> nvidia-glx-180 is already the newest version.
[07:47] <FFForever> nvidia-glx-180 set to manually installed.
[07:48] <FFForever> but its not using the drivers (i cant go bigger then 800x600...)
[08:01] <lucent> oh-my-god-barbeque!
[08:01] <lucent> bug #315974 is finally dead
[08:02] <lucent> the bastard is dead, hallelujah!
[08:06] <FFForever> cmon someone...
[08:07] <lucent> use Ubuntu version supported by your vendor
[08:08] <FFForever> i got the nvidia 2 work just one last problem...
[08:08] <FFForever> when i login i get a black screen......., i have to go to ctrl + alt + F1 and back to ctrl + alt + F7 to get the black to go away....
[08:09] <lucent> where's the source code for your graphics driver?
[08:09] <FFForever> at nvidia?
[08:09] <FFForever> i didn't know nvidia released there source....
[08:09] <pwnguin> in source package xserver-xorg-video-nouveau :P
[08:10]  * lucent checks google
[08:10] <FFForever> i am using the nvidia-glx-180
[08:10] <lucent> it feels like my face is just melting off
[08:10] <lucent> reading more about this nouveau project now
[08:10] <pwnguin> heh
[08:11] <lucent> how *do* you configure GDM resolution on Ubuntu systems?
[08:11] <lucent> that's always plagued me
[08:11] <lucent> it used to be some obscure line in a GDM conf file
[08:11] <lucent> that file moved, now I don't even know where to begin to look
[08:12] <lucent> I didn't see it mentioned in the manual pages, did I miss something?
[08:12] <pwnguin> man gdm
[08:12] <pwnguin> there's a config section in the manpage
[08:12] <lucent> pwnguin: are you certain that the information is in there about the resolution though?  I read through and apparently I missed that part
[08:13] <pwnguin> config is done via gdmsetup or /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[08:14] <FFForever> any idea about my problem?
[08:14] <FFForever> lemme guess i should come back tmw?
[08:14] <lucent> pwnguin: try gdmsetup though, I know what you said is essentially true, but gdmsetup does not really configure the resolution that is set for GDM
[08:14] <lucent> FFForever: go research it, figure this out, and document it for others
[08:14] <lucent> don't whine about stuff please, I must be very rude now
[08:15] <FFForever> lucent, ............
[08:15] <pwnguin> FFForever: out of curiosity, what's in the nvidia driver you like?
[08:15] <FFForever> pwnguin, it works?
[08:15] <pwnguin> over say nv
[08:15] <FFForever> i just want 1280x800 res with no problems?
[08:15] <pwnguin> is that all?
[08:16] <FFForever> nv?
[08:16] <pwnguin> the default crappy driver
[08:16] <FFForever> pwnguin, i play games so i need opengl/directx support
[08:16] <pwnguin> well
[08:16] <pwnguin> directx aint happening :P
[08:16]  * lucent :P
[08:17] <FFForever> directx works fine for me =)
[08:18] <FFForever> ohhh well
[08:18] <FFForever> lucent, ill be back tmw 2 wine hopefully u won't be here =)
[08:19]  * lucent stabs, repeatedly
[08:20] <lucent> trendy XP-groping gamer baby! die
[08:21] <lucent> pwnguin: where exactly in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf did you say resolution configuration is?
[08:21] <pwnguin> i didn't
[08:21] <lucent> I'm calling your card, it's either called something different that I'm not familiar with or you're just making shit up
[08:22] <pwnguin> i just mentioned the file name; gdm setup is craptacular
[08:23] <lucent> anyhow I'll just drop the question
[08:23] <lucent> you DONT know and I surely don't know
[08:24] <lucent> I'm pleased that another one liner bug is dead that affects usability in Jaunty Alpha3
[08:34] <cwillu> gdm resolution is simply set by x, isn't it?
[08:39] <SwedeMike> yes, but resolution after logging in can be different from the gdm initial screen
[08:40] <cwillu> I'd imagine a preferredmode line in xorg.conf would do it
[08:40] <cwillu> Option "PreferredMode"  "string"
[08:40] <cwillu>               This  optional  entry  specifies a mode to be marked as the pre‐
[08:40] <cwillu>               ferred initial  mode  of  the  monitor.   (RandR  1.2-supporting
[08:40] <cwillu>               drivers only)
[08:41] <cwillu> where mode is "1024x768" or "1024x768@72", or so forth
[08:42] <cwillu> any word on the gnome-power-manager bug?
[08:42] <cwillu> pegging xorg with expensive calls?
[09:02] <hausi_> i'm trying to debug /join #ubuntu-devel
[09:37] <Melik> wow anyone use XFCE? this thing is so nice.
[10:33] <blizzkid> lo all. I'm running alpha 3 on a MacBook, and have a bit of a weird problem. When I boot the macbook without usb-keyboard, I can login (GDM), but once logged in, the keyboard is disabled. When I then attach the USB keyboard, both the usb and the internal keyboard work fine. When I then unplug the usb one, the internal one keeps working. After reboot: same issue.
[10:34] <blizzkid> Should I just file a bug, or does anyone have a suggestion?
[10:34] <blizzkid> Should also mention that it only happens with a user that existed before the upgrade from Intrepid
[10:35] <blizzkid> With a newly created user everything works fine
[15:07] <x1250> selecting text for copy-pasting is almost impossible to do with latest xserver-xorg-input-synaptics :(         If you go to preference->mouse, and try the "light icon" pressing mouse1 and dragging (like when selecting text), you'll notice that it doesn't work like it should.
[15:15] <gordonjcp> hi
[15:15] <gordonjcp> is Jaunty going to have USB MIDI support?
[15:15] <gordonjcp> because it's utterly utterly broken in Intrepid
[15:20] <bernier> Hi, I'm currently running ubuntu 8.10 with 2.6.28-5-generic x64 kernel and I just can't see nothing when i go in system < admin < hardware drivers. Is that a know issue or someone knows how to solve this?
[15:39] <legodude_> bernier: #ubuntu
[15:45] <bernier> legodude_ sorry, it's a mistake , im not running 8.10
[15:45] <bernier> but jaunty
[15:45] <legodude_> ah
[15:45] <legodude_> what drivers?
[15:45] <bernier> nvidia
[15:47] <spr0k3t> bernier: you have to modify your xorg.conf and add the line [Option "IgnoreABI" "True"] in the "ServerFlags" section... then the driver should show up in the list.
[15:47] <legodude_> aren't there stability problems with that
[15:47] <bernier> ok Ill try that anks
[15:48] <spr0k3t> legodude_: so far I've not found any... yet
[15:50] <spr0k3t> I'm currently running 180.22 and it's working fairly well so far.
[15:51] <spr0k3t> the only issue I've found is a problem with 64bit flash beta locking up firefox.  but that's almost expected.
[15:57] <bernier> ok im back
[15:57] <bernier> i just looked in xog.conf and I have no serverflags section since i reconfigure it using sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:58] <Oli``> Hey all... Is there any plan to bump Python up to 2.6 in jaunty?
[15:58] <spr0k3t> k, make a backup copy of that xorg.conf then run [nvidia-xconfig] as root... it will add the needed elements.
[15:59] <Oli``> It appears (at least in fairly simple tests) to perform quite a bit better than 2.5.* and has better features (for developers)
[15:59] <spr0k3t> Oli``: check to see if there's a "needs packaging" request on launchpad
[15:59] <spr0k3t> if not, there's still time before a feature freeze to get the request in.
[16:00] <bernier> Oli'' why not 3.0?
[16:00] <Oli``> bernier: it's not backward compatible (so it'll be a year or three until it's supportable)
[16:00] <bernier> nvidia-xconfig
[16:00] <bernier> oops my bad
[16:00] <bernier> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[16:01] <spr0k3t> k, you need the drivers installed first then.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[16:04] <bernier> ok
[16:04] <bernier> now theres a serverlayout option but no serverflags
[16:04] <bernier> section I mean
[16:05] <spr0k3t> here's the critical part of my xorg.conf file for you to look over: http://paste.ubuntu.com/109440/
[16:06] <bernier> ok i'll try just creating that section
[16:06] <bernier> do you think the Option         "Xinerama" "0" is important?
[16:07] <spr0k3t> no, unless you have 2 monitors.
[16:07] <bernier> good
[16:07] <bernier> ok line added and still not there. I'll try rebooting
[16:09] <bernier> or maybe simply restarting xserver
[16:14] <bernier> ok still nothing in the hardware drivers menu, but drivers are in use
[16:14] <bernier> thanks for your help
[16:24] <Webspot> Hi all. I'm having problems with pkg-config and libavcodec and libavformat. On intrepid "pkg-config --cflags libavcodec" shows "-I/usr/include/ffmpeg", and the same for libavformat. On jaunty, both commands just show a blank output, when it should be "-I/usr/include/libavcodec" and "-I/usr/include/libavformat". This seems to be missing from the .pc file. Is this right, or am I being totally stupid? :-)
[16:31] <spr0k3t> bernier: odd, not sure why it's not showing up in the hardware drivers app, but glad the drivers are working now.
[16:36] <x1250> strange issue: with latest xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, click and drag results in a involuntary double click. Try dragging a window around, it will maximize :)
[16:37] <x1250> also, selecting text as in copy-paste is almost imposible.
[16:41] <DrHalan> does skype work with jaunty?
[16:41] <spr0k3t> hmm... haven't tried that one yet.
[16:41] <hggdh> it does
[16:43] <DrHalan> well i am using AMD64 and get "ALSA lib ../../src/conf.c:2700:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so"
[16:45] <hggdh> do you have ia32-libs installed?
[16:46] <DrHalan> yes
[16:47] <hggdh> there should be more text to the error -- could not open because it does not exist, or different ELF class, or whatever
[16:48]  * hggdh *does* use skype on AMD64 Jaunty
[16:49] <DrHalan> hm
[16:49] <DrHalan> hggdh: here also flash breaks pulse
[16:49]  * Volkodav same here with skype
[16:50] <hggdh> I gave up on pulse about a month ago...
[16:50] <DrHalan> ah okay so youre not running pulse at all?
[16:51] <hggdh> nope. Never could get it to work reliably.
[16:51] <hggdh> I would have sound, then I would not, etc, etc, etc. Eventually, I just gave up on it
[16:52] <DrHalan> so thats why your skype works
[16:53] <hggdh> yes, maybe. At least it is a difference between our setup
[17:05] <DrHalan> whatever i just installed gnash it works fine with youtube
[17:15] <x1250> please comment if bug #320639 affects you too.
[17:20] <LLStarks> so many things enrage me about the state of gnome projects
[17:32] <solarion> compiz seems to be sucking
[17:43] <FFForever> Anyone around?
[17:43] <hggdh> FFForever, just ask your question. If somebody knows the answer, you will get it
[17:43] <FFForever> Can someone help me with a nvidia problem?
[17:44] <FFForever> i setup nvidia-glx-180 on my system and i added the ignoreABI (on xorg) but when i login i get a black screen =\, i have to use ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back my screen after i login
[17:47] <FFForever> btw good work i can finally boot without holding a key in jaunty now i just cant login... =\
[17:47] <FFForever> (lol)
[17:53] <FFForever> =(
[18:17] <roe_> it seems that gnome locks up upon boot?  Is this known?
[18:25] <FFForever> roe_, how does it lockup?
[18:25] <FFForever> (black screen?)
[18:28] <roe_> I have gdm auto login, so it locks up with a picture of the desktop
[18:29] <roe_> it seems that dbus isn't starting automatically, but  Ican start it manually.  I also restart hald after  I start dbus.
[18:30] <FFForever> how do u know if its starting or not?
[18:30] <FFForever> roe_, try just going to tty1 and then back to tty7
[18:31] <roe_> it locks up, I can't change ttys
[18:31] <roe_> ps aux |grep dbus
[18:31] <FFForever> ohhh
[18:31] <roe_> returns just the grep
[18:31] <FFForever> =\
[18:33] <LLStarks> ext4 in jaunty is disaster.
[18:33] <LLStarks> *is a
[18:34] <DrHalan> LLStarks: why?
[18:35] <FFForever> i am on ext4 should i worry?
[18:35] <DrHalan> yeah me too :S
[18:35] <LLStarks> you can't use gparted unless you compile it
[18:35] <LLStarks> and even then, you can't edit the partitions while they are mounted.
[18:35] <FFForever> so compile it?
[18:35] <FFForever> so unmount?
[18:35] <DrHalan> puh
[18:35] <FFForever> compile a live cd?
[18:35] <DrHalan> i thought my machine is about to crash
[18:35] <FFForever> DrHalan, yeah....
[18:36] <FFForever> i was grabbing my jaunty cd 2 start over....
[18:36] <DrHalan> haha
[18:36] <LLStarks> if you can show me where the svn allows for a livecd compilation, that would be awesome.
[18:36] <DrHalan> well ive to say
[18:36] <DrHalan> i switched to 64bit and ext4 in jaunty it is such a speedup
[18:37] <FFForever> i am still on 32bit
[18:37] <FFForever> ill be on 32bit till adobe decides to make flash stable...
[18:38] <FFForever> i cant play music....
[18:38] <FFForever> do i have 2 reboot after installing plugins?
[18:42] <FFForever> bah i only have 4gb of music =\
[18:42] <FFForever> and my 80gb ipod is full...
[18:48] <DrHalan> FFForever: you can run flash trough ndiswrapper or just use gnash it works fine with youtube
[18:49] <FFForever> wtf  how the hell would u run flash through ndiswrapper.....
[18:49] <FFForever> DrHalan, i play lots of flash games XD
[18:51] <roe_> ripping out gnome from jaunty and installing gnome from intrepid is fun
[18:51] <FFForever> roe_, i can only imagine...
[18:51] <FFForever> roe why not just rip out gnome and install from svn?
[18:52] <roe_> oh because that is mroe likely to result in a working system
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[18:52] <FFForever> ...
[18:52] <FFForever> can ubuntu play itunes movies?
[18:52] <FFForever> i have a few i bought....
[18:52] <roe_> drm?
[18:53] <FFForever> do they sell them without drm =P
[18:53] <roe_> aren't they or is that just music?
[18:54] <FFForever> i assume they have fairplay...
[19:05] <DanaG> Hmm, I wonder which'll be first: Xorg-1.6-supporting fglrx, or R600 3D support in radeon / radeonhd?
[19:08] <roe_> anyone know what package is responsible for picking up usb events?
[19:11] <gourgi> roe_: hal or udev i think, not sure
[19:16] <roe_> fun times
[19:16] <roe_> ubuntu doesn't like when you downgrade udev
[19:16] <FFForever> gentoo ftw?
[19:16] <FFForever> i like ubuntu but this login bug is annoying...
[19:16] <roe_> no, debian ftw
[19:17] <FFForever> i a stuck on 7.10 or 9.04 =\
[19:17] <DanaG> login bug?
[19:17] <FFForever> either i change the ttyp to 1 then back to 7 or i stay out outdated 7.10 witch i have to compile everything since its so bloody outdated....
[19:18] <DanaG> huh?
[19:18] <FFForever> btw nice changes on the installer (except the map didn't work 4 me....)
[19:18] <DanaG> What's the symptom?
[19:18] <FFForever> DanaG, when i login i get a black screen till i change to tty1 then back to tty7
[19:18] <DanaG> ah.
[19:18] <FFForever> DanaG, i am guessing it has to due with nvidia though.....
[19:19] <DanaG> Hmm, if you create a temporary new user, does it still do that for the new user?
[19:19] <FFForever> DanaG, this was on a fresh install...
[19:19] <FFForever> all i did was install nvidia's driver and add ignoreabi in xorg...
[19:19] <FFForever> btw why is the xorg config so bare?
[19:20] <FFForever> i was amazed it worked since it didn't even list drivers in the xorg.conf....
[19:20] <DanaG> Most configuration is automatic nowadays.
[19:20] <DanaG> However, nvidia driver does need to be explicitly specified.
[19:21] <FFForever> DanaG, yeah i ran the nvidia-xconfig =)
[19:22] <FFForever> DanaG, any idea why my sound would studder in vlc?
[19:23] <FFForever> movie player is fine on sound....
[19:24] <DanaG> Hmm, vlc doesn't play well with PulseAudio, for one thing.
[19:25] <DanaG> I don't bother with VLC -- for me, it fails miserably at subtitles.
[19:25] <FFForever> how can i change to alsa?
[19:26] <FFForever> i hate pulseaudio since only ONE app can use sound... i have to quit the other...
[19:26] <DanaG> That's an indication that things are NOT using pulseaudio properly, actually.
[19:26] <DanaG> And VLC has a specific PulseAudio output plugin.
[19:27] <DanaG> For me, my biggest recent issue with PA has been that it crashes on resume from suspend.
[19:27] <FFForever> DanaG, are you on a laptop with jaunty by any chance?
[19:28] <DanaG> Yeah.
[19:28] <DanaG> Using 'radeon' driver.
[19:28] <FFForever> do you use the touch pad?
[19:28] <DanaG> Yeah... it was initially way too fast for me.
[19:28] <DanaG> I had to enable shmconfig and install gsynaptics to tweak the touchpad.
[19:28] <FFForever> when i move stuff with the tp it moves them 2 the top right and sticks them there....
[19:29] <FFForever> i have 2 unfocus the window and refocus it and sometimes it works others i am screwed...
[19:29] <x1250> FFForever, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is buggy
[19:29] <FFForever> x1250, any better driver 2 use?
[19:29] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/320639
[19:29] <FFForever> there was an update this morning for it...
[19:30] <FFForever> how do i unload the old one and reload the new one?
[19:31] <FFForever> DanaG, i fixed the problem =D
[19:31] <FFForever> disabled compiz... XD
[19:31] <DanaG> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14415
[19:31] <DanaG> That's not a "fix", it's a workaround.
[19:31] <DanaG> It's a matter of semantics.
[19:31] <FFForever> workaround is better then nothing at this point....
[19:32] <FFForever> DanaG, do u happen to know where i can get the pulse audio driver for vlc?
[19:32] <dtchen> aptitude install vlc-plugin-pulse
[19:33] <dtchen> of course, you could also just use vlc's alsa output, and configure it to use 'default'. ubuntu 8.10 and newer route everything through pulse regardless.
[19:34] <FFForever> dtchen, it studders when i do that
[19:34] <dtchen> FFForever: please describe "stutters" more explicitly
[19:34] <dtchen> FFForever: also, you can adjust fragment sizes, etc., in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[19:35] <FFForever> that fixed it
[19:35] <FFForever> thanks dtchen =)
[19:35] <FFForever> adding that fixed it..., when i used default it would playsound ... stop ... play more sound ... stop on and off on and off...
[19:36] <dtchen> on 8.10? you'd need to ensure you have all the updated pulseaudio and libasound2-plugins packages.
[19:36] <FFForever> 9.04
[19:37] <FFForever> 8.10 never worked for me...
[19:37] <FFForever> i had 2 hold a key to boot so i gave up and downgraded to 7.10
[19:38] <dtchen> hmm
[19:38] <DanaG> hold a key?
[19:38] <FFForever> dtchen, any idea on how i can add media play back to full screen on vlc?
[19:38] <FFForever> yeah hold any key during boot =)
[19:38] <FFForever> but its gone on 9.04
[19:39] <dtchen> FFForever: i don't know what you mean by "media play back to full screen"
[19:40] <FFForever> add play/pause/stop/etc when in full screen
[19:48] <dtchen> FFForever: that works here in both dragon and totem
[19:49] <dtchen> FFForever: perhaps your MM hotkeys are not recognised and/or configured?
[19:49] <FFForever> dragon?
[19:49] <FFForever> ohhh i was talking about an onscreen one....
[19:49] <dtchen> dragon is kde4's totem
[19:50] <dtchen> "an onscreen"...?
[19:51] <FFForever> ill ask in vlc =)
[20:11] <DanaG> Anyone know how to downclock an R600 card in Linux?
[20:12] <DanaG> I don't care about dynamic power management; I just want to peg the thing in low-speed mode.
[20:34] <nacho> is it possible to request an update of gtranslator now that gtr 1.9.4 was released?
[20:34] <nacho> I think jordi is quite busy these days to make the package
[20:43] <fosco_> podria ser eso
[20:52] <DrHalan1> with xservers auto-config how do i know which driver is runnnig?
[20:54] <x1250> DrHalan1, in /var/log/Xorg.0.log should be pretty obvious
[20:56] <DrHalan1> x1250: strange thought i was using vesa but i am using nv still even 2D is pretty bugg
[20:56] <DrHalan1> whatever thanks :)
[20:57] <x1250> np
[21:26] <fosco_> hi
[21:26] <fosco_> i've lost my gnome preferences
[21:27] <fosco_> not sure what i've done
[21:27] <fosco_> sistem - preferences - appearance shows the themes (and it get themed) but the theme es not applied
[21:28] <fosco_> are*
[21:28] <fosco_> any idea?
[21:43] <thenetmonkey9250> does anyone have a working grub menu.lst with entries for xen on jaunty amd64?
[21:48] <falstaff_> will 2.6.29 be in jaunty?
[22:12] <vivid> is it possible to get a minimal cd iso for jaunty?
[22:13] <DrHalan1> is there a light alternative to xsane?
[22:14] <o_portista17> hello, i need some help here, i'm getting an error while trying to update or opening synaptic, because of the hwtest-gtk , does anyone has the same problem?
[22:27] <Sundar> newbie here.i wanted to debootstrap a jaunty armel.i created a stage 1 image in a new partition  debootstrap --verbose --foreign --arch armel --variant=buildd jaunty $LFS http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports. when i do stage 2:  chroot $LFS /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stageI   error :chroot: cannot run command `/debootstrap/debootstrap': Exec format error . help please.
[22:35] <DanaG> Oh heyas, I know fglrx won't work with 3D with the new X server... but is there a way to use it with 2D only, at least?
[22:36] <DanaG> I don't like the open-source drivers, because they have no power management support.
[22:50] <o_portista17> i can't update "tor" package, because i need the glibc-private  but it is not installable
[23:23] <roe_> sooo, fresh install of jaunty, gnome crashes
[23:24] <roe_> more like freezes with just the background displayed
[23:32] <roe_> what is blazes...
[23:32] <roe_> where is jaunty's xorg.conf stored?
[23:33] <andersk> /etc/X11/xorg.conf, although it generally runs fine without an xorg.conf at all.
[23:33] <roe_> yes, I see that
[23:33] <ryanpg> anyone experiencing pointer troubles in jaunty? My left mouse button seems to be behaving as a middle mouse button
[23:34] <roe_> I need to force the use of the vesa driver
[23:34] <roe_> can I just add the appropriate statement into the blank xorg.conf?
[23:34] <andersk> Yeah.  All you need is Section "Device", Identifier "Default Device", Driver "vesa", EndSection (on four lines).
[23:36] <roe_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/320821
[23:36] <roe_> I *think* this is the issue I am having but it says it is fixed
[23:36] <roe_> and yet it is still borked