[16:38] <Stskeeps> anyone expericing HAL crashes on armel?
[17:07] <persia> Stskeeps, I haven't seen that.  Can you reproduce with a stock rootfs?
[17:08] <Stskeeps> mm, things might be a bit special since it's on the nokia tablets, i'll see if i can reproduce in a second
[17:11] <persia> Stskeeps, If you can reproduce, even on the tablets, with no extra-repo patches to HAL, it's probably worth filing a bug.
[17:11] <Stskeeps> *nod* we didn't touch HAL whatsoever, so
[17:12] <persia> In that case, it's probably a valid bug.  While there's no kernel that works on those, it's certainly one of the devices considered for the port.
[17:14] <ian_brasil> persia: doesn't the maemo kernel work?
[17:20] <persia> ian_brasil, Sure, but I don't think we can file bugs on the maemo kernel on LP.
[17:20] <persia> Or at least not against Ubuntu.
[17:23] <ian_brasil> true
[17:23]  * Stskeeps unpacks newest rootfs
[17:55]  * Stskeeps ponders where to find dbg package for ha
[17:55] <Stskeeps> l
[17:58] <persia> With debug symbols?
[17:58] <Stskeeps> yeah
[17:58] <Stskeeps> not sure there is one :)
[17:58] <persia> There's a repo for them all at ddebs.ubuntu.com I think.  I'll try to dig up the wiki page
[17:59] <Stskeeps> we both have the HAL problem (fixable by using older version) on the very-close-to-ubuntu-rootfs and mer, so :P
[17:59] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[18:00] <Stskeeps> thanks
[18:03] <persia> Crash is with 0.5.12~rc1-0ubuntu7 ?
[18:03] <Stskeeps> 0.5.12~rc1+git20090120-0ubuntu1 , most recent
[18:05] <persia> Oops.  Forgot dpkg version ordering != ASCII sort order :)
[18:06]  * Stskeeps grabs his trust dbg
[18:07] <Stskeeps> er, gdb
[18:08] <persia> You might also try apport, especially if you're filing the bug.  I like it because it automates the extraction of the stack trace post-crash, without needing to run gdb on the process.
[18:08] <Stskeeps> k, will read up on it
[18:09] <persia> Needs kernel support though, which may or may not be possible in your environment.
[18:09] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[18:18] <Stskeeps> curious, crash in leds_add
[18:18] <Stskeeps> looking further
[19:33] <jonpackard> Ogra - I see you've updated your build-arm-rootfs script.. want any help testing it?
[19:41] <jonpackard> Or if anybody else would like some help testing anything.. I'm fairly experienced with running an arm system with qemu ;-)
[20:25] <Stskeeps> http://rafb.net/p/Qw09fQ38.html <- occasional HAL crash i'm running into
[21:31] <jonpackard> Hello. Has anybody had success with X in qemu with Jaunty-armel yet? I'm still getting the problem with no keyboard or mouse repsonse once X starts.