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FlannelAnyone seeing any packaging bugs related to 8.04.2?  Where the depends can't be satisfied due to version number oddities?00:36
Flannelvim on the CD is apparently -138+1ubuntu3.1 but in the repos its only -138+1ubuntu300:37
SeekTherapyI am having a severe problem with my sound card00:37
greg-gSeekTherapy: what is the summary of your problem with your sound card?00:41
greg-gI worded that badly00:42
greg-ghey SeekTherapy, whats the problem you're having? :)00:42
SeekTherapy Creative Labs SB X-Fi00:47
SeekTherapycant get it to work00:47
greg-gSeekTherapy: that specific peice of hardware is known to cause a lot of problems (bad linux support from Creative).  Your best bet would be to ask for support in #ubuntu or on www.ubuntuforums.org00:54
maxb       vim |           1:7.1-138+1ubuntu3 |             hardy | source, amd64, i38601:09
maxb       vim |         1:7.1-138+1ubuntu3.1 |    hardy-proposed | source, amd64, i38601:09
maxbFlannel: ^01:09
maxbAlthough, erm, CDs shouldn't be cut from -proposed, I would have thought?01:10
Flannelmaxb: No, I wouldn't think so either.01:10
Flannelmaxb: Looks like the desktop version has 3 but alternate and server have 3.101:11
hggdhhum. If that is the case, a bug should be opened01:40
andolI have a question regarding bug #302822. That comment I just made to it, should that be accompanied by a changed status?01:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 302822 in bash-completion "rdiff-backup lacks bash autocompletion" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30282201:43
greg-gandol: can you get someone running Jaunty to confirm that it works?01:46
andolgreg-g: will I do?01:47
andolgreg-g: Or is it a problem that I'm the one who actually wrote the completion in question?01:48
hggdhandol, what do you mean? Is it in the rdiff-backup 1.22-1, or not?01:49
greg-gandol: no, that isn't a problem, just want to confirm that it actually works :)01:49
* andol just ran a few tests on a januty system, and it seems to be working just fine.01:50
greg-gthen go ahead and mark it fix released.01:50
andolgot it, thanks01:51
hggdhandol, please update the package as well. Issue was on rdiff-backup01:51
hggdhthank you.01:53
andol(and yes, it is in the 1.22-1 package)01:53
andolFirst bug I've marked "fix released". Actually felt kind of nice :)01:54
Rocket2DMnlol @ bug 32098201:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 320982 in ubuntu "[wishlist] change user settings directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32098201:55
Rocket2DMnwould anybody object if i kindly point to brainstorm and close that01:56
hggdhRocket2DMn, sounds very much like a brainstrom thingy. And, yes, I would also like to have it ;-)01:57
Rocket2DMnare you serious?01:58
Rocket2DMnhow much stuff would have to be changed to implement that01:58
hggdhpretty much everything01:58
Rocket2DMnyeah, thats what i thought01:58
hggdhbut -- right now -- if you want to save your settings, it is kind of complex01:59
Rocket2DMnalright, well i closed the bug01:59
hggdhthere is also the issue with upgrading -- you saved settings, let's say, at 8.04, and want to restore them at 9.0401:59
Rocket2DMncompatibility would never happen01:59
* hggdh knows from hard and painful experience02:00
hggdhbut one can still wish ;-)02:00
vocxAnyone wants to test bug 27527502:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275275 in tvtime "tvtime no kill after directly close gnome-terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27527502:29
cprofittcan someone triage this and move it to wish list - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/32100502:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 321005 in gnome-app-install "allow some applications to float to top of menu" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:39
charlie-tca321005 done, cprofitt02:41
cprofittthanks charlie-tca02:41
charlie-tcaThank you for helping02:42
cprofitthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/320993 -- that one looks like a wish list... but I am not sure if the clock applet is a sep package or if that should be gnome02:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 320993 in ubuntu "clock applet don't have any locations for Canary Islands" [Undecided,New]02:42
charlie-tcavocx: could you attach your .xsession-errors log?02:44
vocxcharlie-tca, for the tvtime bug, is that important?02:44
charlie-tcaI'm hoping there is an error concerning it in that file.02:45
charlie-tcaI don't have a tvcard, myself02:45
vocxcharlie-tca, It's a 21 KB file, got a bunch of stuff there. Can I just delete it so it is generated again, after reproducing the bug? I do have several errors about gtk redrawing I guess.02:48
charlie-tcaIf you want, otherwise, just add it as a separate attachment.02:48
vocxcharlie-tca, it is auto generated when I login, right? So I log out and back in?02:50
charlie-tcaCorrect, to the best of my knowledge02:51
vocxcharlie-tca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/109221/        As you can see, I started tvtime and closed the terminal twice as described in the bug, and nothing shows up. This paste is after rm'ing the log and rebooting my PC, so it's clean, so to speak.03:07
charlie-tcaWell, that happens. Thanks for trying. I will triage the bug.03:08
charlie-tcaYeah, vocx, nothing there that counts.03:12
cprofittcharlie-tca, I am not sure if this bug has enough information and the core dump is beyond me... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/32071603:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 320716 in nspluginwrapper "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]03:13
cprofittI would have liked to see more int he stacktrace, but wanted to pass this to you for a second opinion...03:13
cprofittalso talking with Rocket2DMn about this...03:13
charlie-tcaOkay, I'll take a look03:13
Rocket2DMnyeah hey03:14
charlie-tcacprofitt: That stacktrace is useless. There may be something in one the other logs a developer will be able to use.03:16
cprofittthat was my thought03:16
cprofittI just was not sure on confirming so a dev could look at the coredump03:17
charlie-tcaBeing an apport report, I usually look for duplicates to confirm them03:17
cprofittgood plan03:17
charlie-tcaWell, normally they won't look until we triage it.03:17
cprofittright... that is why I was debating confirming and having you triage, but the stacktrace was, as you said, worthless...03:18
cprofittand I do not yet speak gdb coredump03:18
charlie-tcaI don't either. Is there any thing close to this already?03:19
cprofittthere do appear to be a large number of those coming up on a search... looking at them now03:19
cprofittmany of them marked as incomplete03:20
charlie-tcaYeah, that is a problem. Someone will ask for information, then never get back to see if any was added.03:20
Rocket2DMnyeah looks like that package is causing some problems, and pedro is asking for more crash info03:21
Rocket2DMnmost people never get back on those though03:21
vocxCan anyone try this: start totem, then try to start tvtime, it says:  "xvoutput: No YUY2 XVIDEO port available."03:21
cprofittIt would be good if someone looked at the coredump ... that might have something03:22
Rocket2DMncprofitt, you could request the same info that pedro is, but in all honesty i would just leave the bug alone for pedro to get to03:22
Rocket2DMnthen it ends up on his subscribed bugs03:22
Rocket2DMni dont know how he handles his workflow though03:23
charlie-tcaI'm thinking ask for a backtrace following pedro's example. It appears he can't do anything to fix it without one.03:24
charlie-tcaUnfortunately, without a good backtrace, this one is not going to see much fixing.03:25
vocxAbout 320993, I do have the location for Canary Islands in the clock applet, it's within Spain >03:26
hggdhcprofitt, looking at coredumps stored in bugs is more complex -- you have to have the same package levels as the report, otherwise you will not get a nice backtrace03:26
cprofittcool vocx03:26
cprofitthggdh, good to know... I am not ready to load such things, but that is good information for the future03:27
hggdhcprofitt, this is where the back-end apport retraces comes in (back-end in launchpad)03:27
hggdhvocx, can you please document it in the bug? Also please check if your package level is the same as the reporter03:28
vocxah, I just noticed, he is using Power PC. Why why why?03:28
hggdhvocx, the hardware is not as important in this case as the package levels03:29
vocxWhat's current gnome version, 2.24.1? It's the same as the clock applet, which is not included in a separate package, so it must be in the base gnome package I don't know how it's called.03:29
hggdhcurrent for what distro?03:30
vocxUbuntu 8.1003:30
hggdhyes, gnome is 2.24.1 for 8.1003:31
Craig73If it's not too much trouble, would someone be able to change bug #110873 to wishlist for me.  (Thanks)04:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 110873 in shorewall "BitTorrent macro should use ports 6881:6999, not only 6881:6889" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11087304:51
HewCraig73: shorewall isn't the right sourcepackage for current releases. Which binary package does the bug apply to?05:43
HewCraig73: I've assumed it's shorewall-common. Please change it if this is not the case.06:05
hggdhits shorewall-common indeed06:14
seektherapyits me again and i can not find help in Ubuntu with my sound card issue07:35
jmarsdenseektherapy: I'm about to go to bed, but see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems (and this is not the right place to ask for user support).07:59
jmarsdenseektherapy: Since you have the dreaded X-fi, also see if anything at http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288 is useful07:59
seektherapylet me look08:00
seektherapyohh, there is a creative channel for ubuntu jmarsden08:02
jmarsdenOK, then try asking in there :)08:03
seektherapyi think they are all gone.. but i'll keep trying... why dont these stupid companies ever create Ubuntu or linux drivers?08:04
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orogorhi here, anyone know<s what sthe default setting for the ubuntu memory split ?  becaus ei do have 4Gb of ram and i see a commitlimit of 2GB ?14:14
Heworogor: Support can be found in #ubuntu14:32
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Rocket2DMncan somebody please have a look at bug 320979 and see if they can find if i have missed something17:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 320979 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Trackpad crashed on Jaunty update" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32097917:19
Rocket2DMnim not seeing any output anywhere that leads me to believe there is anything wrong with their touchpad or configuration17:19
chrisccoulsonRocket2DMn - that bug needs re-assigning I think. I'm not sure which source package it belongs too, but xserver-xorg-input-synaptics doesn't exist from Gutsy onwards17:26
Rocket2DMnchrisccoulson, it exists17:28
chrisccoulsonthe binary package of that name exists, but the source package is actually xfree86-driver-synaptics it seems17:29
Rocket2DMni had the bug filed under xorg initially, Timo filed it under the synaptics package, which is where the wiki says to file these types of bugs17:29
Rocket2DMnso i left it there17:29
chrisccoulsonaccording to launchpad, the latest release of xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is 0.14.6 in gutsy17:30
tjaaltonthe source will be renamed some time17:30
tjaaltondepending on debian17:30
chrisccoulsonah, ok17:30
Rocket2DMnin any case, i stil cant figure out what is wrong17:31
tjaaltonwe used to have x-x-i-s but it was more difficult to merge17:31
Rocket2DMntho it does appear that recent updates in jaunty are breaking some touchpads17:31
chrisccoulsonyeah, the touchpad is correctly enumerated in HAL and Xorg is detecting it too17:32
Rocket2DMnyeah, thats why im very confused, there arent any errors, everything says its thtere17:32
Rocket2DMnso, no ideas on that bug huh?17:38
hggdhchrisccoulson, Jaunty has xserver-xorg-input-synaptics at 0.99.3-1ubuntu217:41
chrisccoulsonhggdh - see above ^^^17:41
chrisccoulsonthats the name of the binary package. the name of the source package is xfree86-driver-synaptics17:42
chrisccoulsonthats ok :)17:42
* hggdh goes back to munchinig some grass, just in case17:43
Rocket2DMnhmmm, well ill wait for the bug OP to respond again, i "me too"-ed another synaptics bug17:44
Rocket2DMncould be that the OP is having the same behavior but didnt explain very well17:44
chrisccoulsonpossibly. it does seem that driver was updated a few hours ago17:45
hggdhchrisccoulson, LP should be updated, then, to map the source package17:46
loic-mtjaalton: I contacted Ron in Debian to know if there's any ETA on wacom drivers in Debian17:46
loic-mtjaalton: but he might be busy, or maybe it's because of the freeze in Debian17:47
loic-mtjaalton: could we package them for Ubuntu before FF?17:47
loic-mtjaalton: unlike it's a stable release (so further updates/patching might be easier if there's need for an SRU)17:48
loic-mtjaalton: and they have at least one patch for Tablet PC that hopefully also solve [one/a few] bug[s] in Launchpad17:49
tjaaltonloic-m: well, it's completely broken for me :)17:49
tjaaltonI've done the package today17:49
tjaaltonbut instead uploaded a fix to the current one which doesn't crash X when unplugging the tablet17:50
loic-mtjaalton: the package?17:50
tjaaltonloic-m: yes17:50
loic-mtjaalton: do you know what is broken?17:51
tjaaltonI suspect it's the commit "Updated wcmUSB.c to ignore unparsed data" which broke it17:51
loic-mtjaalton: is the fix Linuxwacom-discuss] [PATCH] the driver tries to xfree(priv) more than once (lw-discuss)?17:52
tjaaltonsince I only get these ignore errors when the pen is close to the tablet17:52
tjaaltonloic-m: yes, but it was already included in
tjaaltononly wrapped inside #ifndef's17:52
loic-mtjaalton: do you have packages somewhere? and what hw did you test?18:04
tjaaltonloic-m: I'll put it somewhere.. this is a rebranded Waltop tablet18:05
tjaaltonloic-m: uploaded to my ppa;18:06
loic-mtjaalton: thanks a lot18:06
loic-mtjaalton: do you plan to have for sure in Jaunty or is it not decided yet and Jaunty may keep
tjaaltonloic-m: I'll report this bug and hopefully we'll have a fixed version :)18:08
tjaaltonso 0.8.2.x likekly18:08
loic-mtjaalton: thanks. I'll build/test them on Intrepid, and latter in Jaunty18:09
tjaaltonloic-m: well, you might have to change it for intrepid.. the configure script is buggy and I needed to hardcode some things..18:13
tjaaltonto make it build in jaunty18:13
vocxIsn't there a way "grep" all bug reports for a package, say, totem? Apparently the search function of Launchpad only works on the title of the bug.18:18
loic-mtjaalton: if it goes over my head I'll just install Jaunty ;)18:19
tjaaltonloic-m: just #undef WCM_XORG_XSERVER_1_6 from linuxwacom/src/include/xdrv-config.h if it fails :)18:19
loic-mtjaalton: thanks18:20
loic-m tjaalton: a lot. I wouldn't have managed to find that line by myself.18:21
tjaaltonloic-m: np18:22
andolA question regarding bug #296952. Is now a good time to set its status as "In progress", or should that be done be a real developer?18:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 296952 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysqlhotcopy failed on table with hyphen in name" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29695218:41
andresmujicanormally that would be done by the ubuntu's dev that assumes that package18:59
andresmujicayou've made a nice work providing those patches.19:00
andresmujicamaybe at #ubuntu-server you can ping someonte to take a look19:01
vocxandol, ^19:07
andolandresmujica: I'll do that, thanks.19:13
vocxAnyone with a working TV card wants to try to run tvtime and totem-gstreamer at the same time. From the terminal, first run "totem" then "tvtime". Should this be considered a bug in tvtime, totem, or the video driver? Check bug #21013219:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 210132 in tvtime "[hardy] tvtime won't show anything with fglrx" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21013219:18
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sectechCan someone from bug-control give me there opinion on bug 31343922:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 313439 in nautilus "Opening a Java Archive (.JAR) file executes it regardless of the "executable" permission bit" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31343922:05
greg-gsectech: without reading the whole thing: it should be forwarded upstream, it is a request to change something in nautilous22:06
greg-gs/something/a setting/g22:06
sectechfeature request22:07
sectechI can file a bug upstream for gnome... and mark this as wishlish22:08
greg-gwell, isn't a new feature, per se, but it is something that they would be the ones you should talk to22:08
greg-glow is fine for now, wait until upstream tells you if it is a feature request or not22:08
sectechI doubt this is the first time it's been requested22:08
greg-gs/not/a bug/g  #grrs at hitting enter too soon22:08
sectechfair enough22:08
vocxjust makes me laugh when people do s///g on irc channels, like they could actually change what they wrote... too much scripting...22:57
hggdhsimpler than copying, pasting, and correcting...22:58
vocxBut really... it's actually confusing since you have to actually search for the match and substitute in your head... yourself, not sed, grep, awk, whatevar... and no, it's actually simpler to copy paste23:00
hggdhit may indeed be true -- but a lot of us here are developers, and most vim users... so it is immediate for us23:06
vocxyeah, it's kinda cool, but at the same time scary... makes you think23:07
Rocket2DMnuse whatever works for you when you correct yourself23:10
vocxyes, but think of the other people, your conventions might not be theirs, just like actual code... how ironic.23:12
vocxBy the way, there is this really strange bug with my current installation. Ubunut 8.10. Nautilus. When I press shift to select multiple directories or files, an arrow of the first folder is selected so I actually expand this directory instead of selecting multiple files. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one, and this is probably fixed already, but I still would like to read a bug report if someone has it.23:15

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