[06:41] <LirazSiri> good morning y'all
[15:57] <tyche> ALLEZ,  ALLEZ, ALLZINFREE!!!
[15:58] <tyche> It's time to show the world how a REAL team works.  Hee hee
[15:58]  * myrtlebeachbums puts on his hip waders 
[15:59] <kennymc0> what? you mean delegating all the work to the newest guy on the team?
[15:59] <kennymc0> or is that how a normal team works and we are supposed to be a "real" team :P
[15:59]  * kennymc0 going to be quiet now
[16:00] <johnc4510> lol
[16:00] <tyche> But . . . but . . . but kennymc0, you passed it back UP the food chain.  Just like a good virus.
[16:00] <kennymc0> what i'm a virus now????
[16:00] <kennymc0> if i'm going to be called a virus i deserve a raise
[16:01] <tyche> Besides, giving the new guy all the dirty jobs is a time-honored tradition!  How ELSE is the new guy supposed to learn what to avoid when he gains in rank.
[16:01] <tyche> (And yes, I suppose I am calling you "rank")  Hee hee
[16:01] <tyche> As for the raise, you got that last week.
[16:02] <kennymc0> that was for the upcoming events section
[16:02] <kennymc0> and with what you are paying me you can afford to double my salary again
[16:02] <kennymc0> lol
[16:02] <myrtlebeachbums> Yeah, aren't you making a billion times what you made on your first UWN issue now? I know I am.
[16:02] <tyche> What???!!!!????  You want me to double your pay AGAIN????!!!!????
[16:03] <tyche> OK, 2 * 0 STILL = 0
[16:03] <myrtlebeachbums> Exactly!
[16:03] <kennymc0> See. that wasnt that hard
[16:04] <kennymc0> lol
[16:04] <kennymc0> hey........wait
[16:04] <kennymc0> lol
[16:04] <tyche> The unmitigated gall of some new troupes.
[16:04] <tyche> Or is that Gaul.  Hee hee
[16:04] <tyche> "All gall is divided into three parts"?
[16:08] <johnc4510> tyche: did you read thru the UDW piece in GCN??
[16:10] <tyche> I had read through the original.  I haven't read your teaser yet.
[16:10] <johnc4510> when you get a chance please, it was a lot of adlib i had to put in from sources
[16:10] <myrtlebeachbums> So tyche, about that bringing the one article for ITB up to the group.... You want the honors?
[16:12] <johnc4510> myrtlebeachbums: what about it?
[16:12] <tyche> I hereby bestow upon johnc4510, by the authority vested in me through my B.A. in BS, the honorary degree of PHD (Piled Higher and Deeper).  Hee hee
[16:14] <johnc4510> so what are we discussing here??
[16:14] <myrtlebeachbums> The ITB entry we spoke about. tyche proposed debating it here.
[16:15] <myrtlebeachbums> http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/65877.html
[16:15] <johnc4510> looking
[16:15] <tyche> That's the one you're supposed to be condensing down.
[16:15] <tyche> In a polite way.
[16:15] <johnc4510> right
[16:16] <johnc4510> it may make the final cut and may not. we'll see
[16:16] <myrtlebeachbums> Yep. I accepted that one. I'll stop procrastinating now and work on i.... OOOH! SHINY THING!
[16:16] <johnc4510> i'm trying to get something in to make the community realize that flaming isn't wanted or needed
[16:16] <myrtlebeachbums> *nod*
[16:16] <johnc4510> k
[16:19] <tyche> BTW, johnc4510, Nick's Ubuntu Podcast 18 is out now.
[16:20] <johnc4510> tyche: ah ok
[16:27] <tyche> Hey johnc4510?  What the heck is adsobtion? (Meeting Summaries, Mobile Team, first bullet point.)
[16:27] <johnc4510> looking
[16:28] <johnc4510> should probably be "absorbtion" i think
[16:28] <tyche> OH!!! OK, that makes sense
[16:28] <johnc4510> :)
[16:29] <johnc4510> change it if you could please
[16:29] <tyche> Yep
[16:32] <johnc4510> ITP: Don't fear the penguin: nice job of the write up on that one :)
[16:33] <myrtlebeachbums> Thanks!
[16:34] <johnc4510> kennymc0: can you correct the two typo's in the last sentence of the first article ITB "foudn taht"
[16:34] <johnc4510> lol
[16:34] <kennymc0> wow i made a mistake like that
[16:34] <kennymc0> maybe i should start doing them in open office instead of just a text doc
[16:35] <kennymc0> spell check is my friend
[16:35] <tyche> Gedit can spell check.  You just have to go in and turn it on every time you start.
[16:35] <myrtlebeachbums> Firefox 3.x does inline spell checking. Pay attention to the lil' red lines. ;)
[16:36] <myrtlebeachbums> I saw that a request for Gedit is for Wiki syntax highlighting. Note that I said "requested", not "implemented".
[16:36] <johnc4510> kennymc0: also the 3rd article next to last sentence:"adn
[16:36] <kennymc0> u was kinda tired when i wrote that one
[16:36] <myrtlebeachbums> Either someone's going to make that or by UWN 150 I'll be frustrated enough to learn how to make it myself.
[16:36] <kennymc0> so i can understand a mistake like that in that one
[16:36] <johnc4510> sure
[16:36] <johnc4510> np
[16:37] <myrtlebeachbums> "u was kinda tired"... and you're wide awake now?
[16:37] <johnc4510> kennymc0: nice job on the 3 ITB that are up
[16:41] <kennymc0> tyche: if you could let me know when you are out of the UWN so that i can post another ITB
[16:42] <tyche> Saving now
[16:42] <tyche> Clear
[16:42] <kennymc0> kk thx
[16:44] <kennymc0> ok i'm out now
[16:44] <kennymc0> made those changes johnc4510
[16:45] <johnc4510> kennymc0: thx
[16:45] <kennymc0> np
[16:50] <kennymc0> ok another ITB is up
[16:50] <kennymc0> now it's up to myrtlebeachbums to finish it off
[16:50] <johnc4510> k
[16:50]  * myrtlebeachbums notes that it's officially all on his shoulders. 
[16:50] <johnc4510> lol
[16:51] <tyche> I'm working on the glossary.  I discovered more as I was going through correcting some typos
[16:52] <johnc4510> great
[16:52] <johnc4510> :>
[16:53] <myrtlebeachbums> johnc4510 - it's pasted in now. Let me know what you think.
[16:57] <myrtlebeachbums> Gee, spot the verbose guy's post in the ITB section. :-P
[16:57] <myrtlebeachbums> GAH! Missed a camelback. Fixing.
[16:57] <tyche> Yea, with the CamelBack that I had to fix
[16:58] <tyche> Hee hee.  Too late.  Already done
[16:58] <myrtlebeachbums> I just saw that. Thanks tyche.
[17:06] <tyche> myrtlebeachbums: You did a good job on the "Woman Quits College" one, but I still don't like it.
[17:07] <tyche> Sorry.
[17:07] <myrtlebeachbums> Heh heh heh. NP
[17:07] <kennymc0> that's why i didnt want to do it
[17:07] <tyche> Just my opinion.
[17:07] <myrtlebeachbums> There's no easy way to wrap that up as a feel good story in the end.
[17:07] <johnc4510> lol
[17:07] <tyche> It isn't a "feel-good" story.  You're right there.
[17:07] <myrtlebeachbums> As usual on the internet, a few highly opinionated idiots made the rest of the community look bad.
[17:08] <johnc4510> kennymc0: i altered the last 2 ITB summaries to expand them
[17:08]  * myrtlebeachbums hands kennymc0 a +5 ITB shovel
[17:08] <johnc4510> myrtlebeachbums: i'll take a look at the flame war now
[17:08] <myrtlebeachbums> k
[17:09] <kennymc0> thx for expanding them johnc4510 there wasnt a whole lot of material in the last 2
[17:09] <johnc4510> np
[17:13] <kennymc0> stats look good so far
[17:13] <kennymc0> just running a quick check
[17:14] <boredandblogging> hi guys
[17:14] <kennymc0> morning boredandblogging
[17:14] <boredandblogging> can we include a link to the Developer News in the UWN?
[17:15] <boredandblogging> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-January/000527.html
[17:15] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: we can
[17:16] <johnc4510> myrtlebeachbums: tyche kennymc0, try the college lady piece now
[17:16] <johnc4510> made some changes
[17:16] <myrtlebeachbums> Looking
[17:16] <tyche> Looking . . .
[17:17] <myrtlebeachbums> Addition by subtraction. Looks good johnc4510.
[17:17] <tyche> Better, but I don't think it gets the point across.  Unfortunately (I've read the article) I'm not sure one could from the article.  It's implied, not stated.
[17:17] <johnc4510> right
[17:17] <johnc4510> hopefully the community gets the idea
[17:18] <tyche> Well, we may hear about this one.
[17:18] <johnc4510> although it's not really our people doing it i don't think
[17:18] <johnc4510> if we do we do
[17:18] <tyche> Nope.  Zelots (not the person with the nick)
[17:18] <johnc4510> news is news...it's not always good news
[17:18] <johnc4510> right
[17:18] <myrtlebeachbums> Sadly enough, if they read UWN chances are they're not in the group of people that need to be hit with a clue by four while being told "HELP THE N00BS! - DON'T DISCOURAGE THEM!"
[17:18] <tyche> True.  And that I can accept.
[17:19] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: should i put the dev news in
[17:19] <johnc4510> GCN or ION
[17:19] <johnc4510> ?
[17:20] <tyche> kennymc0:  I thought you said that there were 30 some entries for Upcoming Meetings.
[17:20] <kennymc0> yeah i made a mistake
[17:20] <kennymc0> i looked at the wrong week
[17:20] <tyche> AH!  WHEW!!!  You scared me.
[17:20] <kennymc0> i told you that after i realized it but you probably had gone to bed by then
[17:20] <kennymc0> i scared myself
[17:21] <tyche> Yea, I didn't see it.
[17:21] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: lets drop it at the bottom of GCN
[17:21] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: kk
[17:21] <tyche> Of course, fighting this cold, I probably miss a lot
[17:21] <boredandblogging> also, please use use lp.net instead of edge.lp.net
[17:22] <johnc4510> where at?
[17:23] <johnc4510> ah in the tech board runoff
[17:23] <johnc4510> k
[17:23] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: technical board run off
[17:23] <johnc4510> :)
[17:23] <boredandblogging> yeah, but I kinda meant as a general thing as well
[17:24] <johnc4510> yeah, i'm not sure where is got that
[17:25] <johnc4510> i think off the mailing list link
[17:25] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: ok, done and done
[17:25] <boredandblogging> edge is for people who are LP testers, if I'm not mistaken
[17:25] <johnc4510> k
[17:25] <johnc4510> i'll keep that in mind
[17:25] <johnc4510> not that it will stick hee hee
[17:26] <johnc4510> :/
[17:26] <boredandblogging> i bet it redirects
[17:29] <johnc4510> maybe
[17:54] <johnc4510> james_w: ping   boredandblogging told me to ask you about updates for 6.06 and 7.10. we haven't had any to put in the UWN since dec. 08
[17:54] <boredandblogging> james_w: are you going to post the UDN on the fridge?
[17:54] <james_w> boredandblogging: I'm not sure, I didn't think it was the right audience
[17:54] <james_w> johnc4510: you mean package fixes in those releases?
[17:55] <johnc4510> yes
[17:55] <james_w> it's possible that there haven't been any
[17:55] <johnc4510> k
[17:55] <james_w> let me have a look
[17:55] <johnc4510> thx
[17:55] <boredandblogging> james_w: I think we can post a summary, like the "in the news we have" highlights
[17:55] <boredandblogging> don't need to post the whole thing
[17:56] <james_w> if you think it's worth I would be happy to
[17:56] <boredandblogging> james_w: think it would be good
[17:57] <boredandblogging> plus once we migrate to the "new" fridge, it should be there
[17:57] <johnc4510> james_w: we draw from here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gutsy-changes/ and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/
[17:57] <johnc4510> for the UWN
[17:57] <boredandblogging> james_w: and I'm about to put it on the planet
[18:12]  * johnc4510 to UWN team, nice work all. I'll publish a little later after i do my final edits
[18:12] <johnc4510> thx
[18:12] <johnc4510> :)
[18:13] <tyche> Thanks, johnc4510.  Nice words that mean a great deal to me.
[18:13] <johnc4510> :)
[18:14] <johnc4510> you guys are great!!!!
[19:02] <LirazSiri> hey guys
[19:05] <kennymc0> morning
[19:05] <kennymc0> :)
[19:06] <LirazSiri> actually, it's 9pm over here :)
[19:06] <kennymc0> it's noon here
[19:06] <LirazSiri> where is everybody?
[19:07] <kennymc0> they left for lunch i suppose
[19:07] <kennymc0> a lot of the people that work on the uwn are in AZ
[19:07] <kennymc0> at least 3 of us
[19:08] <LirazSiri> really. I live in Israel. Small world
[19:08] <LirazSiri> I popped in because I wanted to discuss taking over the updates and security and stats sections officially
[19:09] <LirazSiri> the main thing is I want to prevent someone else from working on that accidentally and duplicating the effort
[19:10] <LirazSiri> also, if I get that role, I can do it a bit later with confidence and the stats will be a bit more up to date
[19:10] <LirazSiri> I can stick around for a bit longer, but if the guys don't come back we'll have to discuss this over email
[19:11] <kennymc0> as of right now there is no one else working on it
[19:11] <kennymc0> i believe they are cool with you working on it officially i just think you should talk with them
[19:12] <kennymc0> cause you are basically taking over what i used to do and they have moved me on to other parts of the uwn
[19:12] <LirazSiri> really what are you doing now?
[19:13] <kennymc0> i'm working on the summaries for the in the blogosphere and the upcoming events
[19:16] <kennymc0> well it's time for me to head out have to go pick up my little brother and get something to eat
[19:16] <kennymc0> talk to ya later
[19:17] <LirazSiri> ttyl
[19:30] <LirazSiri> hi john
[19:30] <johnc4510-laptop> LirazSiri: hey bud
[19:30] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[19:31] <johnc4510-laptop> saw you had done the updates and security section this wk
[19:31] <johnc4510-laptop> nice job
[19:31] <LirazSiri> and the stats
[19:31] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[19:31] <johnc4510-laptop> right
[19:31] <LirazSiri> kenny recommended I come talk to you guys about doing this role "officially"
[19:31] <LirazSiri> can you see the channel log before you came in?
[19:31] <johnc4510-laptop> sure, we're glad to have you
[19:32] <LirazSiri> alright, what I'm trying to prevent is duplicated effort
[19:32] <johnc4510-laptop> nah, i sat down with my laptop
[19:32] <johnc4510-laptop> np, when are you planning to have those in by in each issue?
[19:32] <johnc4510-laptop> just for my knowledge
[19:32] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[19:32] <LirazSiri> I'm flexible on that
[19:32] <LirazSiri> that's what I want to talk to you about
[19:32] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[19:33] <LirazSiri> I know this stuff benefits from being done as late as possible
[19:33] <LirazSiri> e.g., the stats, the package and security updates
[19:33] <johnc4510-laptop> right, but i know you are on a different time zonw
[19:33] <LirazSiri> I am
[19:33] <johnc4510-laptop> k, so, what time is it there now?
[19:33] <LirazSiri> we can use UTC as a point of reference
[19:33] <LirazSiri> 21:34
[19:34] <johnc4510-laptop> k, can you have them done each wk by 17:00 your time?
[19:34] <LirazSiri> yes
[19:34] <LirazSiri> I'll put that down as the deadline on my end
[19:35] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, that would be great then, that's about the time i start looking things over
[19:35] <johnc4510-laptop> sounds great
[19:35] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[19:35] <LirazSiri> np
[19:35] <LirazSiri> another thing that kenny mentioned is that you guys wanted everyone on the channel "to work as a team"
[19:35] <johnc4510-laptop> be sure to start documenting your contributions on your wiki page
[19:36] <LirazSiri> the problem is I am not sure I can be available on evenings (my time)
[19:36] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah we try to do it as a group when we get close to finishing up the issue
[19:36] <johnc4510-laptop> i understand
[19:36] <johnc4510-laptop> we can work with that
[19:36] <johnc4510-laptop> np
[19:36] <LirazSiri> great
[19:36] <LirazSiri> alright, I have to run off now. ttyl
[19:37] <johnc4510-laptop> great, looking forward to your contributions
[19:37] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[19:37] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[19:37] <LirazSiri> cheers!
[20:55] <johnc4510-laptop> server is having problems, i'll bb in a bit to finish up
[21:20] <Tumie> Loves conquers all things except poverty and toothache
[21:53] <james_w> boredandblogging: thanks for the blog post. Do you think that same text should be what is on the fridge?
[21:57] <boredandblogging> james_w: the list of contents under "In this issue we have
[21:57] <boredandblogging> "
[21:57] <boredandblogging> should be good enough
[22:00] <james_w> cool
[22:00] <james_w> I just applied to join ubuntu-fridge so that I can create the post
[22:00] <james_w> would you approve if for me?
[22:01] <boredandblogging> james_w: done
[22:01] <james_w> thanks
[22:09] <james_w> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1821 for you to review and publish at your leisure
[22:12] <boredandblogging> james_w: published, thanks
[22:12] <james_w> thank you
[22:43] <johnc4510-laptop> new UWN issue #126 is out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue126
[22:56] <james_w> nice work as always
[22:59] <johnc4510-laptop> james_w: thx