[00:12] <Pricey> Bah, forgot setting that fixes hilight -line if you're using format_identify.pl. Anyone remember before I find it googling logs of this channel?
[00:17] <Flannel> Pricey: Remember any parts of it?  I can just grep the logs of this channel
[00:18] <Pricey> Flannel: /set
[00:18] <Flannel> Pricey: And did you say it or did someone else?
[00:18] <Pricey> i 'think' stdin
[00:19] <Flannel> I... don't see it, but : http://paste.ubuntu.com/109182/
[00:19] <jussi01> stdin: is aroundish I think...
[00:20] <stdin> yeah, but I don't use irssi (much)
[00:21] <Pricey> aha, 2008/03/03/#ubuntu-ops.txt:[16:31] <no0tic> Pici, PriceChild /set hilight_nick_matches off did the job
[00:21] <Pricey> then adding a manual hilight for it
[00:21] <Pricey> I've been sat there, checking that setting is on 'on' and meh
[00:21] <Pricey> Thanks Flannel.
[00:32] <Flannel> Um... that's odd.
[00:33] <Flannel> The vim on the 8.04.2 CDs is newer than the one in the repos.
[01:21] <stdin> vim 1:7.1-138+1ubuntu3.1 is in hardy-proposed
[01:22] <Flannel> yeah, its also in 8.04.2 alternate and server ISOs
[01:22] <Flannel> but not desktop
[01:22] <Flannel> (and yes, that's odd)
[01:23] <Flannel> Boooo password stealing idiots
[01:23] <stdin> hmm, this is odd
[02:10] <Cpudan80> Warning
[02:10] <Cpudan80> Balzac is in #ubuntu
[02:10] <Cpudan80> He needs a permanent kline in my humble opinion 
[02:10] <Cpudan80> He does nothing except cause trouble in ##windows -- wanted to give you a heads up
[02:12] <Seeker`> thanks
[02:23] <Seeker`> Cpudan80: anything we can help you with?
[02:23] <Cpudan80> no
[02:24] <Cpudan80> just wanted to give you a warning
[02:24] <Cpudan80> of course he seems uncharacteristically well behaved
[02:24] <Seeker`> heh
[02:31] <nickrud> well that was very suprising
[02:31] <Cpudan80> Mez: sorry
[02:31] <Cpudan80> I didn't know the word itself would highlight...
[02:31] <Cpudan80> I only highlight on the command
[02:32] <Mez> nah, he got klined :D
[02:32] <Mez> or I'd have kb'd
[02:32] <nickrud> Cpudan80, don't sweat it. Amazing how fast that happened
[02:32] <vorian> :o
[02:33] <nickrud> :)
[02:53] <ScottK> Good $TIMEOFDAY.
[02:54] <ScottK> DGMurdockIII is link spamming at least #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-devel a bit.  I've asked him to stop.
[02:54] <ScottK> I'm not saying he should be kicked right now, but I'd appreciate it if someone would keep an eye on him.
[02:59] <ScottK> Looks like he left.
[02:59] <ScottK> Good night.
[05:17]  * stdin dislikes the term "g rated"
[05:20] <nickrud> really? Seems most people understand it 
[05:21] <stdin> we don't all know what the motion picture association of america rates as "g"
[05:23] <nickrud> a point. I guess 'disney' has been the operative word there
[05:23] <stdin> I could say to people "keep it u rated", but I don't ;)
[05:23] <stdin> (U == Universal, suitable for all audiences)
[05:23] <nickrud> nah, that's unrated, it has 'everything' :)
[05:24] <stdin> universal refers to the audience, as do all the other ratings we have here
[05:24] <nickrud> think disney cartoon movies
[05:25] <stdin> so no swearing, but shooting of deer is ok? :p
[05:26] <nickrud> yep. blood sport is good, ask anyone :)
[05:53] <Flannel> Uh... what?
[05:53] <Flannel> "I have 300GiB of data to sort through because I'm moving to the US and only want to take up to about 40GiB with me"
[05:53] <Flannel> Does that make sense to anyone?
[05:58] <nickrud> sorta. Maybe he's worried about legality :)
[07:23] <seektherapy> anyone here?
[07:23] <nickrud> seektherapy, what can we do for you?
[07:25] <seektherapy> ok.. I went into the Ubuntu support channel and asked for help with my soundcard, no one can help me there.. Been dealing with this for over a month now .. 
[07:25] <nickrud> sound is hard to find help with sometimes. However, this channel is for resolving issues relating to how #ubuntu is moderated. It's not a help channel
[07:26] <Flannel> seektherapy: You didn't say a word in #ubuntu
[07:26] <seektherapy> "
[07:26] <seektherapy> yessssssssssssss, i did
[07:26] <seektherapy> opps.. i am in kubuntu
[07:27] <nickrud> try asking in #ubuntu, more people are in there normally
[07:27] <seektherapy> Flannel: i am so tired of this.. why cant Ubuntu be more women friendly
[07:27] <Flannel> seektherapy: Um, what?
[07:28] <seektherapy> i bet i wont get help...but i guess i will try
[07:28] <Flannel> seektherapy: I don't think gender has anything to do with it.
[07:31] <Flannel> seektherapy: If you have no further business related to this channel, please don't idle here.  Thanks.
[07:32] <seektherapy> fine Flannel... no girls aloud.. understood
[07:32] <seektherapy> bye
[07:36] <Flannel> Now seektherapy is in -bugs
[07:39] <stdin> I don't get how the problem is apparently she's a she, and that changes things somehow....
[07:40] <stdin> how did that happen? anyone?
[07:40]  * stdin is clueless
[07:40] <nickrud> could be blowback from other experiences.
[07:40] <stdin> [07:36]<seektherapy> Chipzz: i am actually very new at the OS .. One reason why woman do not find it user friendly
[07:41] <stdin> that's in response to "there are other ways of getting support. the forums, and filing a launchpad support ticket for example"
[07:41]  * Flannel isn't even going to touch this.
[07:41] <Flannel> stdin: The only thing I can think of is that the "eyes on the back of the head" thing gets in the way.
[07:42] <stdin> it's like, I understand the words, but that's it
[07:42] <stdin> put the words together and my brain melts :p
[07:43] <Flannel> stdin: It's possible that seektherapy isn't a girl, but is trying to play the "omg I'm a girl, ^_^" card in order to get attention/sympathy/whatever
[07:43] <Flannel> Or she is a girl, and .... uh... I don't know.
[07:44]  * nickrud is truly not going to touch this one, except to note that there's an #ubuntu-women for a reason
[07:45] <stdin> either way, someone who has super cow powers should watch him/her/it/them/us/everyone in #ubuntu-devel
[07:45] <stdin> just in case
[07:45] <nickrud> I only have veal powers, sorry
[07:46] <Flannel> stdin: in -devel now too?
[07:46] <stdin> for 25 mins now
[07:58] <Flannel> Anyone have -ot whos handy?
[08:05] <stdin> it's official, #freenode has gone insane
[08:05] <Flannel> yay?
[08:05] <Flannel> Are parasites eating at its brain?
[08:06] <stdin> trolling jesus and tor flooders
[08:06] <stdin> how's that for a sentence! :p
[08:13]  * Flannel scolds himself for adding purely useless factoids.
[09:19] <Flannel> Anyone awake?
[09:19]  * Flannel crosses fingers.
[09:26] <Flannel> Hi Scubidus
[09:26] <Scubidus> So whats the point in a perm ban?
[09:27] <Flannel> Scubidus: No one said anything about a perm ban
[09:27] <Scubidus> I am banned from #ubuntu
[09:27] <Scubidus> your the one who did it
[09:27] <Scubidus> am I wrong?
[09:27] <Flannel> Indeed, you're banned.
[09:27] <Scubidus> For?
[09:28] <Flannel> Do I really need to quote you?
[09:28] <Scubidus> Do you really have no sense of humor?
[09:28] <Flannel> Scubidus: You were warned about your language, ad you responded with "fuck im sorry I will", so you were removed as a warning.
[09:29] <Scubidus> No
[09:29] <Flannel> Then you returned, and said nothing else until you said "Flannel, You Suck Donkey Balls
[09:29] <Scubidus> Do you really have no sense of humor
[09:29] <Flannel> I'm not really sure what's humorous about either of those.
[09:29] <Gary> Scubidus: #ubuntu is a support channel, not a chat channel
[09:29] <Scubidus> ....
[09:29] <Flannel> While I certainly am not personally offended by either of them, they're definately not appropriate behavior.
[09:29] <Scubidus> are u 12 or something, or was this like the first time you got OPs?
[09:30] <Scubidus> kickin people left and right is an abuse of power
[09:30] <Flannel> Scubidus: Going back to your original question, no, it's not a permanent ban.
[09:30] <Flannel> Scubidus: We ask everyone follow the channel guidelines
[09:30] <Flannel> You weren't.
[09:30] <Scubidus> When Is my ban up?
[09:31] <Gary> Scubidus: all ubuntu channels follow their code of conduct, which relates to language used, as well as other things, the general idea is to keep those channels family friendly, and *nice* for all users
[09:31] <Scubidus> Flannel?
[09:31] <Flannel> Scubidus: That depends entirely on you.
[09:32] <Scubidus> Christ kid you want an apology or somethin
[09:32] <Flannel> Scubidus: No, I want you to understand and agree to follow the rules.
[09:33] <Flannel> In case you missed them, they're the following two documents, mixed with some common sense: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
[09:33] <tritium> Scubidus: you're not showing any remorse for violating the channel rules.  Why should your ban be lifted until you do?
[09:33] <Flannel> Scubidus: If you're hazy about the common sense part, we can suppliment those with all of the following (you can enquire with /msg ubottu factoid)
[09:34] <Flannel> !etiquette
[09:34] <Flannel> But, most of those are purely common sense.
[09:36] <Gary> as Scubidus has said in pm to me, it seems he did not realise the importance of keeping #ubuntu solely support related, he now knows this
[09:36] <tritium> All I see above is bad attitude.
[09:37] <Flannel> Scubidus: With that said, and seeing your current behavior, I suggest you spend a day mulling over the IRC guidelines and especially the code of conduct.  I don't really see any benefit of drawing this out further, but those sorts of things generally best set overnight.
[09:37] <Scubidus> Flannel
[09:37] <Scubidus> Go fuck yourself and ur gay ass IRC
[09:37] <Scubidus> your sorry
[09:38] <Flannel> Well then, maybe a single day isn't appropriate.
[09:38] <tritium> (And poor spelling and grammar)
[09:38] <Flannel> Hopefully he'll take at least a dozen hours or so to come back, and we'll see how he behaves then.
[09:40] <Gary> that was odd, in pm he was totally different
[09:40] <Flannel> Not that it's likely to be an issue any time soon, but anyone's free to remove that ban.
[09:41] <Flannel> Gary: Yeah, I imagine it was just him getting emotional.  He likely was originally joking (although, I don't see how its amusing), and then hurt that we're reprimanding him for something he thought was playful.
[09:41] <tritium> I certainly won't.  He displayed all attitude, and was incredibly rude.
[09:42] <Gary> tritium: in pm he was the total opposite
[09:43] <Flannel> Gary: Certainly odd indeed.
[09:45] <Flannel> With that, however, I'm running off to sleep.
[09:48] <tritium> Good night, Flannel.
[09:48] <tritium> I'm off to bed as well.
[09:58] <Gary> thats a lovely ircname AE 
[10:00] <AE> Thanks
[10:01] <AE> Its been my handle for a couple years now
[10:01] <AE> I have a little ASCII image of an AE in old english made of the connected AE's
[10:02] <Gary> I meant your ircname, not nick
[10:02] <AE> oh lol
[10:02] <AE> I know dont you love it?
[10:03] <Gary> not really
[10:03] <AE> lol
[10:03] <AE> I just came in too add someone to a list
[10:03] <AE> but thanks for the semi compliment
[10:03] <AE> later Gary
[10:14] <cwillu> what the policy on recommending the removal of standard ubuntu services?
[10:15] <cwillu> i.e., fixing audio by removing pulseaudio, fixing wireless by installing wicd?
[10:27] <stdin> usually by creating a blueprint for review
[10:27] <stdin> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:32] <cwillu> sorry, by which I meant: people who regularly suggest people remove such packages to other people in #ubuntu
[10:33] <cwillu> just spent a while unbreaking somebodies system after somebody had them uninstall pulseaudio to fix their lack of mixing :(
[10:33] <cwillu> not trying to pick a fight, I just want to know what the policy is regarding that, so I know if I should bother or not :p
[10:44] <cwillu> or should I be asking this in #ubuntu-irc :p
[10:48] <shepherd> hi i got banned for talking about religion with warning, but i did not take the warnign seriously.   i'm sorry, will not happen agian please unnnnnban me from ubuntu off topic
[11:06] <jussi01> shepherd: where were you banned?
[11:07] <shepherd> a#ubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <jussi01> !coc | shepherd
[11:08] <jpds> Hmm: 11:08:01 < ~shepherd> why isn't sudo apt-get pron wokring?
[11:08] <shepherd> heh :)
[11:08] <shepherd> agreed
[11:09] <shepherd> sry i'll sign off now
[11:09] <shepherd> but i really was banned becuase i dont  believe in god from ubuntu off topic
[11:13] <shepherd> !coc | shepherd
[11:31] <jussi01> !idle | shepherd
[11:47] <topyli> iirc i banned shepherd. if he thinks he was banned because he doesn't believe in god, he hasn't learned much
[13:17] <elkbuntu> who has ubot4?
[13:17] <elkbuntu> it just seems odd to skip it :P
[13:20] <jussi01> elkbuntu: it was around for a while...
[13:20] <jpds> elkbuntu: I thought no0tic had a 4 at one point.
[13:21] <elkbuntu> i have no idea. they just seem to appear
[13:22] <jpds> That would be my fault.
[13:26] <elkbuntu> ubot5 just needs a namechange
[13:37] <jpds> elkbuntu: I'll look into it later today.
[13:38] <elkbuntu> it's not specifically your fault, and it's probably a fair assumption to believe that there needs to be the space filled properly anyway
[14:03] <jpds> There we go.
[14:04] <jpds> +ping
[14:11] <Seeker`> morning
[14:49] <Tm_T> hi Adola how can we help you?
[14:49] <Adola> O.o um, I've stumbled in here...On accident 
[14:49] <Adola> Sorry....
[14:49] <Seeker`> x1250: how can we help you
[14:49] <Tm_T> Adola: see topic
[14:50] <oobe> Hi i have been banned from #kubuntu its on my list of auto join channels and i didnt notice at first i was wondering if i could be unbanned i dont know why i am banned if someone could help i would appreciate it
[14:50] <x1250> Seeker`, there's a guy on #ubuntu-es giving fork bomb commands publicly. This is not the first time he do such stupid things, I want him k-lined or banned from #ubuntu-es
[14:51] <Seeker`> jpds: you still about?
[14:52] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: hi how can we help you?
[14:52] <Seeker`> oobe: 2008-12-20T22:21:13 <oobe> i would just like to say penis fucker
[14:52] <Seeker`> oobe: ring any bells
[14:52] <Trabzonspor> that person is true what he said I seen it too 
[14:53] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: what person where?
[14:53] <jpds> Seeker`: Nop.
[14:53] <Trabzonspor> see Seeker`, there's a guy on #ubuntu-es giving fork bomb commands publicly. This is not the first time he do such stupid things, I want him k-lined or banned from #ubuntu-es
[14:53] <Trabzonspor> that chat
[14:54] <Seeker`> jpds: you're on the access list for -es?
[14:54] <jpds> Seeker`: Haven't been there in ages tho.
[14:54] <Seeker`> oobe: that is the most recent event that matches your nickname on  the bantracker
[14:54] <x1250> the guy's nick is "dzup"
[14:54] <Seeker`> jpds: have a look at the guy doing forkbombs?
[14:54] <bazhang> Trabzonspor, please depart if you have no business here
[14:54] <Trabzonspor> OK why 
[14:54] <jpds> On it.
[14:55] <bazhang> Trabzonspor, check the channel topic
[14:55] <Trabzonspor> so what use going to do 
[14:55] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: thanks for the heads up, it will be dealt with
[14:55] <Trabzonspor> OK if I was a admin I would block him or band him for weeks
[14:55] <jpds> x1250: Appears to be silent at teh moment. Will keep eye on it.
[14:56] <oobe> oh ok Seeker` i didnt know what i did somtimes i random banter when the channel is to quite i wont do it again 
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[14:56] <Seeker`> Trabzonspor: Thankyou for letting us know. We will deal with the issue
[14:56] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: thanks, you can go now (:
[14:56] <Trabzonspor> OK
[14:56] <Seeker`> oobe: stdin is the one that banned you, you should talk to him to get unbanned, when he is around
[14:56] <oobe> hm heh its not that important
[14:57] <oobe> i guess i dont really need to be there i dont require support and i only answer questions occasionally
[14:57] <Seeker`> well, if you want to be unbanned, you need to speak to stdin when he is around
[14:58] <oobe> oh ok 
[14:58] <Seeker`> I dont know when he will be back, but I would say come back in 2 hours and see if he is back
[14:59] <x1250> jpds, here's what happened: http://paste.ubuntu.com/109414/   he asked what that command did, and asked people to run it.
[14:59] <Seeker`> oobe: until then, please leave the channel
[14:59] <jpds> x1250: I speak Spanish, don't worry.
[15:00] <x1250> jpds, ok, thanks :)
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Any other ops think we should change our factoids for languages to /join #Ubuntu-whatever as the users never seem to get that right and we end up telling them manually
[16:25] <topyli> Jack_Sparrow: a standard like "this channel is english only. to chat in klingon, do "/join #ubuntu-kl" might work i guess
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> topyli I didnt mean to add a factoid as much as change where we tell them the channel to include the actual command and not just the channel name
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> topyli Sorry took me a sec to understand that Kilngon isnt a language adopted by any country.. yet
[16:27] <topyli> yes i do see. they usually say something like "klingonese chat in #ubuntu-kl". might change to be more helpful
[16:27] <topyli> hehe
[16:28] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, that's the undiscovered country
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Actually would be cool to have one for that
[16:28] <topyli> as far as i'm concerned, klingon is welcomme on any channel!
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Atlantis adopts Klingon as official language
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> topyli Make the channel.. and they will come
[16:30] <topyli> we would need an operator there who actually speak klingon
[16:30] <topyli> i couldn't tell when users are offtopic
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> who would care?
[16:30] <topyli> heh, true
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Half would go there just to learn it
[16:32] <topyli> there's a finnish MP who has a homepage in finnish, swedish, english and klingon
[16:32] <topyli> http://www.kasvi.org/index.php?kli
[16:45] <Moniker42> i'm sure that was at the web designer's request :D
[16:48] <topyli> dunno, he is a genuine nerd. he does admit in the comments that he had the translation done and doesn't actually speak it himself
[19:49] <Flannel> 8.04.2 vim trouble #2
[20:58] <mohi> hey
[20:58] <mohi> we dont have locobot in #ubuntu-ir. he finished?
[21:00] <jpds> mohi: Try: #ubuntu-eu, they run the bots.
[21:00] <mohi> ok ty jpds
[22:25] <[SkG]> hi
[22:26] <[SkG]> I was banned from #ubuntu because of issues with my connection, I fixed it, can remove my ban please?
[22:27] <[SkG]> —› raw 470: #ubuntu ##fix_your_connection Forwarding to another channel
[22:32] <Mez> @bansearch oobe
[22:33] <Myrtti> hello babes
[22:33] <Mez> Myrtti: that @ me?
[22:33] <Mez> @bansearch [SkG] 
[22:34] <[SkG]> ewww that bot is broken
[22:34] <[SkG]> =P
[22:35] <Mez> [SkG]: I can't see any forward to that channel
[22:35] <[SkG]> uhm
[22:36] <[SkG]> still forwarding
[22:36] <[SkG]> (23:35:51) ([SkG]) uhm
[22:36] <[SkG]> (23:35:55) —› raw 470: #ubuntu ##fix_your_connection Forwarding to another channel
[22:37] <Myrtti> Mez: to everyone in general
[22:38] <Mez> Myrtti: ah
[22:38]  * Mez waves
[22:41] <Mez> might have found it [SkG] one sec
[22:41] <[SkG]> ok, ty
[22:42] <Mez> [SkG]: unfortunately, I can't tell if it's actually you
[22:42] <[SkG]> uhm why?
[22:43] <[SkG]> it's an ip ban?
[22:43] <Mez> yeah, and you have a mask
[22:43] <Mez> which SHOULDNT ban you
[22:44] <Mez> remember WHEN you were banned?
[22:44] <[SkG]> eww yes
[22:44] <[SkG]> Session Close: Fri Jan 23 08:30:23 2009
[22:44] <[SkG]> Session Start: Fri Jan 23 08:30:23 2009
[22:44] <[SkG]> European time
[22:44] <[SkG]> uhmm... 84.76....
[22:45] <Mez> .xx1.11 ?
[22:45] <[SkG]> yes
[22:45] <Mez> your clock is 20 seconds out :D
[22:45] <[SkG]> maybe
[22:46] <Mez> try joining
[22:46] <[SkG]> ty ^^
[22:46] <Mez> detective work
[22:46] <Mez> how're you Myrtti ?
[22:46] <[SkG]> seems that ip bans are strong
[22:46] <Mez> apparently so :D
[22:47] <[SkG]> ty for all
[22:47] <Myrtti> Mez: just back from Littlehampton, knackered but happy. Just had a mug of hot choc and cheking my flickr and stuff
[22:47] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3221832617/
[22:47] <Mez> ah, back in finland?
[22:47] <Myrtti> nope, Warboys
[22:48] <Mez> where the **** is that?
[22:48] <Myrtti> Cambridgeshire
[22:48] <Mez> never mind, google maps to the win :D
[22:48]  * Mez just finished his last shift at work !
[22:51] <Myrtti> it's amazing how small place England is and how cramped it is
[22:52] <Mez> lol, yeah... but we do have some nice countryside :D
[22:53] <Myrtti> I'm just looking at the flickr map of my pictures and watching the route we just drove back home, and can't believe that short trip can take so little time - but then I always somehow imagine bigger of the Isles is about the size of Finland.
[22:53] <Seeker`> Mez: how did it go?
[22:53] <Seeker`> sorry, should me Myrtti 
[22:54]  * Mez doesnt feel loved
[22:55] <Myrtti> Seeker`: very nicely, I finished my knitted gift shawl for the Mum just before we left this morning :-) Lovely people.
[22:55] <Myrtti> oh
[22:55] <Myrtti> I had cream tea yesterday :-D
[22:55] <Seeker`> Myrtti: cool. How long did the journey take?
[22:55] <Seeker`> ooooooooooooh
[22:56] <Myrtti> quite nice and proper :-P
[22:56] <Myrtti> the car ride took about three-ish hours
[22:56] <Myrtti> one way. We left on Friday evening and just returned about an hour ago
[22:56] <Seeker`> went via the dartford tunnel / bridge on the M25?
[22:57] <Myrtti> yup, did a detour to Basildon
[22:57] <Myrtti> that bridge took my breath away
[22:57] <Seeker`> hehe
[22:58] <Seeker`> my girlfriend hates driving over it
[23:02] <Seeker`> Myrtti: meeting the parents went ok then
[23:06] <Myrtti> very
[23:07] <Seeker`> :D
[23:10] <Myrtti> I've got a bag full of Rock from Littlehampton :-D
[23:16] <Seeker`> haha
[23:17] <Seeker`> how much longer are you in england for?
[23:18] <Myrtti> one week :-/
[23:23] <Seeker`> whatcha got planned?
[23:27] <Myrtti> nothing really. Work. prolly Cambridge.